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Does the Acer Helios Neo 16 have a battery conservation option like Lenovo's laptop ? My Lenovo Legion 5P is nearing 3 years of usage and the total battery capacity has only been reduced by 2% out of 80Wh. edit: Acer does have battery conservation through Acer's Care Center software which stops battery from charging when reaching 80% capacity.
"Instead of having useful port icons on the back, Acer have instead chosen to spell out Predator in morse code" I like how Jarrod says it in a monotonous manner🤣
Got a Helios 300 with RTX 3060 graphics for $999 on sale from Best Buy, and I've been enjoying it for the past few days now ever since I got it! I'm glad that I saw your video on last years Helios 300!
I was looking between a few different laptops and seen a comment recommending this one, I look it up and it’s on sale for $1090 until tomorrow, $500 off and I’m literally about to go pick it up now! Curious to see the difference coming from a 60 fps capable ps4 and a 720p smart tv 😂
I got the 3070ti helios 300 thanks to you and it is a beast man. Thank you for helping me dodge the 3060 Slim i7. You're the man for this one. By the way the fan does NOT get that bad.
This is a really nice machine. bought this last week and love it. nice temps and performance. I actually ended up getting the 4050/i5 model which i was also very impressed with.
@@niazahmed9535 gaming laptops aren’t always about specs keep that in mind is my advice. F15 has a really cheap feeling chassis. Performs fine tho. Legion is nice, haven’t used a Lenovo in awhile tho. Acer has a nice cooler and an impressive chassis for its price.
Acer with their Nitro 16 7840HS + 4060 and Asus TUF F15 with 12700H + 4060 really surprised with some budget pricing right out of the gates! The efficiency advantage of the 40 series may be handy for people living in warmer climates along with Frame Gen. Also not all full power 3070Ti laptops are equally fast, as the 3070Ti is very power dependent and there is like a 5% difference between various laptops (like comparing a 3070Ti Omen against a 3070Ti Legion).
Man i was at best buy picking up my Helios 300 and some poor familly was picking up the TUF with 8 gigs 3050ti for "college and gaming" tried HARD dropping hints that that wasnt it but to no avail. Shame really.
Or you could have just told them it wasn't a good idea. Unless you didn't wanna seem like a know it all but I bet whoever bought it is regretting it now. 😂
Im happy with my accer predator and just as happy that your rocking a In Flames shirt!!! I met them at Ozzfest in 2004 in Indianapolis. Super cool dudes.
There is an option to change profile when removing charger. In profile there are setting for changing Modes and refresh rate etc. Between the Modes and profiles, it can get a bit confusing.
Hey, Jarrod! I have a quick question: would an SSD M2 WD Black SN850X with the heatsink fit in my Predator Helios 300 (2022 version) or should I buy the model without heatsink? Your reviews are always so helpful, thanks! :)
I do find this interesting. I disabled 8 E cores on my GT77 and did a slight undervolt in bios (-0.50, I was scared lol). Basically all CPU power was devoted to 16 cores rather than 24. I got 27.9 K cinebench (13980HX running 16 cores/24 threads) vs 32.8K with stock standard 24 core no undervolt settings. I actually think, since the clock speeds were noticeably higher, it makes much more sense in almost all scenarios to run 16 cores rather than 24. There's no game that can benefit from 24 cores. All cores in this mode ran at maximum all core turbo speeds without throttle, both P and E cores. When 24 cores are enabled, the P cores start at 4.8 in cinebench but settle to an all P core of 4.5 due to thermals. This is with no undervolt though. Still, a maintained 4.5 is impressive in such a gargantuan laptop chip, but my games are legit running better with 16 cores, and in some cases, even better with ALL E cores disabled (scroll lock shortcut disables them, need to use OSK since laptop doesn't have physical scroll lock key). My Timespy as stock out of the box was over 18K on cpu and 22.1K total score. It really goes to show the crazy wattage the massive GT77 can provide vs a relative compact 16" like this, as 16 cores here netted just under 20K in CB. After all, it's identical processor architecture. Single core performance is up when power is all devoted to less cores, it benefits in every way unless you are doing hard core video RENDERING and want the all core grunt. My GT77 hit 220W in CB R23 LOL but the latest bios caps it to 120W in all modes, it's a known bug, so GT77 users, do NOT update your bios till MSI fixes this! I am very impressed with the 16 core thermals of this little Acer laptop. Indeed.
i dont understand 100% of what you said, but i got some weird thing with this product. Our predator i5 13500hx or i9 13900HX when testing (render premier or AIDA64, cpu burner) it wont load 100% or only a few sec (usually 80% with 1.6GHZ even with maximum setting). but when i went to bios and disable E core, it runs perfectly fine. But the same CPU on legion works fine without needing to change any setting
It’s a gaming laptop like none other at this price point. Punches well above its weight and thermals are extremely advanced compared to other laptops. Plus points are thermals and display quality. While minus point is weight and battery life.
That's a bit pointless to disable E cores which are basically only useful in workloads like cinebench. Doing this doesn't make any difference in games because the E cores are sleeping anyway. Disabling HT on the P cores can improve game fps very slightly.
@@VryanMMA rip no. but I see they put up different sku with same model number yesterday and it was $1199 pre-tax so good enough for me! (today that's gone and sku with $1549 is back up
Will get this laptop.. Strangely enough here with the same specs, it just priced around USD1360 when converted wheres the Helios 300 is still cost more around USD1820.. Anyways keep up the good work Jarod!
I just got the Legion 5 82RB00AGMJ, with the current local lenovo TnG deal. There is the i7 model 82RB00AHMJ. I feel like it's a really good deal and the performance shouldn't be that different, but it is last gen with only 6GB of VRAM.
There are two different predator models 1. Helios 16 - which is more premium, has better display with higher refresh rate and can upgrade to 64 GB of RAM 2. Helios Neo 16- it has max 32 GB RAM and lower refresh rate but still keeps many features from the higher end model Option 1 is more expensive due to more features. Neo 16 is the budget model. But punches well above its weight.
Thank you very much for all this information. Regarding adding a second nvme, do you know if there is room to install one with a heatsink, such as the Seagate FireCuda 530 ? Or must I get one without a heatsink?
Why are these laptops so cheap on Amazon? They’re running for $1,259.90 for 64RAM/2TB SSD GTX 4050 I currently can’t afford this, hopefully by end of June
I bought this laptop from your review and it's working perfectly so far! Thanks! Also on a side note, Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 laptops with 40 series graphics have the tendency to freeze randomly. Not sure what causes this but mine was fixed by replacing one of the ram sticks.
I own this laptop with this exact same configuration. I have to say I'm really having fun playing games on it. Didn't really mind the bad things that Jarrod pointed out. Didn't really even know that they were bad things until he said that they were. Didn't really mind the framerates as anything above 60fps at high settings is playable anyway. The price in my country is well below msi gp77 which made me choose this one. Also the last year's model with 3070 still has more price than this one.
@@GenVenFamit should run both efficiently you won't find any lag infact you can also edit 4k footages with this laptop, regarding photoshop you will also enjoy accurate colors
I just ordered this exact one from best buy for $1299 came with 1tb ssd instead of 512 will receive it in a couple days huge upgrade for me currently have dell gaming i5 7th gen and gtx 1050 never had any issues with it just time to upgrade
I’m curious in 6:55, what caused the frame rate to drop down drastically during the test. I’m not a tech savvy so i was wonder if it was a hardware or software issue.
Recently bought the acer predator helios neo 16 i5 13500HX RTX 4050. This model is the best value for money gaming laptop in 2023. You can review it. Temps are very good 70-80° (performance mode+auto) even my room temperature is 30-35°c.
@@AirSupportIncomimg build quality is enough strong and sturdy. It gives a heavy metallic feel. you will need some days to get used to its weight. Hinges are strong, with no unusual wobble at all. But I found that the screens' bezel quality isn't that great. The Bezel quality should be better. Overall build quality is good enough. The main problem is that the laptop is a fingerprint magnet and I feel very hard to remove it. And the heavy weight I've already said that you'll need some time to get used to it, so heavy weight isn't a problem.
Battery not being screwed in is an instant no from me. That's like connecting a fuel tank to a car engine with common duck tape. Zero points. Instant fail. Doesn't matter how it performs. Fire the battery guy from the Predator design team ASAP!
Hello Jarrod, I love your videos man! It's been helping me quite a lot on researching to buy a decent gaming laptop under a certain amount of budget and I have selected two models which I've liked the most. They are "Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 PHN16 | 2023 Model | 16.0 inch WUXGA Display 165Hz Gaming Laptop ( i5-13500HX, 16GB, 512GB SSD, RTX 4050 6GB (Max TDP-140), W11 )" and "Gigabyte G5 KE | 2022 Model | 15.6″ FHD 144Hz Display Laptop ( i5-12500H, 8GB, 512GB SSD, RTX3060 6GB (Max TDP- 115W), W11 )". Can you please help me out on selecting the best suited one considering overall bases (e.g. Performance, Monitor, Thermal Management, Build quality, longevity)?
I think for the SSD write speed is a windows 11 problem, as my SSD used to get about 4Gb/s write, now I'm getting only 800mb/s after the latest windows update. (My SSD used space is less than 50% )
I think it would be great if Jarrod could manage to get the new Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i which comes in 14" and 16" and to do an in-depth review of such an interesting device 🙌🏻
This was the unit I have choose for a replacement of my old laptop which was the horrible 2021 model it was having issues with heating and the board always gets fried even tho its a new board and the shop said they don't have that old model on stock so they made me choose to replace the old model with a new one and I found the new model with the best cooling so far and just added a small amount for a new laptop I'm glad that I have a new replacement and it was the new model of helios 300 and this video really helped me to choose what unit to get for a replacement of my old helios 300
Nice and thorough review J, appreciated! Your crystaldiskmark write results seem a little off though, i'm getting 5400/3000/900/332-ish in write tests. Do you happen to know the wattage of USB-PD in this device?
Hey Jarrod. Could you try the iets GT 500 cooling pad. Most people highly recommend it in the ASUS and Alienware subreddits. In my case my g14 2022 goes from 95c on the cpu in turbo down to the low 70s when gaming. Huge difference.
@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod! Would highly appreciate if you could reply as I have been torn choosing a laptop for about 2 weeks now... I can get this exact same specs for the Neo 16 and the same Legion 5 you have with the R7 6800H and RTX 3060. Which of the two would you recommend to be used for content creation and gaming as well? Thanks!
Brothers I want to buy a laptop but I am not sure. Should I buy this or Helios 300 or Nitro 5? (their system probably will be rtx 4060 8gb and i9 or i7 12th or 13rd generation + I will mainly use it for programming and gaming)
dude my predator helios 300 from 2020 is still a powerhosue and i have used it for thousands of hours. it hasnt slowed down at all. i am waiting until i have problems before i get a new one :)
great review!!! loving the work but I was not expecting Neo to be the replacement for the Helios 300. I assumed Helio16/18 the replacement for the 300, right??
so im pretty sure the even newer model of the helios neo 16 got better microphone and better cam because my cam for my helios neo 16 is way better quality, even though i got a i5 13500hx and 4050 gpu in it
I got the Neo 16 i7-1300HX+4060 1TB for Black Friday on sale for ~$1050 and that’s coming from a Surface Pro 7 I’ve had since 2020 lol. Finally have something I can game on and edit photos
This was 1299 tax free this weekend so I grabbed it. Now this video makes me sad. But I'm 2x Corsair ddr5 16gb for 32gb and a 2tb ssd and I hope this will be my rig for years to come... Like 2 or 3 years ...
Hay Jarrod, I am planning to buy these laptop with 4050 GUP, I am professional 3D artist and working with Maya, Unreal Engine and Blender software. Is this laptop is ok for this kind of work load OR can you suggest different laptop with same budget. Thank you big FAN.
May I ask what your pick is for a dual-boot Windows/Linux system? For example, Lenovo is pretty good and supports many features in the boot, and hotkeys are working fine, including coolers mode. At the same time, on the Asus series, I had some problems with bios (each time I switched systems, the time was messed up), and some hotkeys, including cooler modes, didn't work. What alternatives to Lenovo laptops exist?
Would you recommend this even with the recent intel situation? I found some great deals on this model though with the 4050 + 13500hx. Or should i just go amd to be safe right now
I see many business and workstation laptop not focusing on thermals like gaming laptop and thats a same . I am a software engineer with a dell precision laptop with 13800h and when all my tools and projects are up the CPU stays at 50-70% and laptop never stays above 3ghz because of thermals . The Highest temperature measure was 101c and average per core around 80C
I think I'd rather just get the Helios 16 rather than the Neo, since the Neo is plastic & I'm too used to the premium aluminium feel of older Acers (& I hate the flex of plastic). Both models I have available to me are RTX 4070 & say they can last up to 8 hours (battery life for Li-ion has gotten pretty bad & I hate Li-po). It's kind of weird how keyboards minimize the shift to fit full sized arrow keys, it's a bit unnecessary.
The 300 Acer Helios 2022 3070th had per key RGB, a better color gamut, performed better and is now cheaper. Unless you want frame generation and a 16:10 aspect ratio why would you go for this laptop at the current asking price?
want the latest generation CPU and GPU, plus I'm not gonna need per key RGB. RGB only is enough for me, whereas it gives 4 zone RGB, much like a cherry on the top.
@@user-ig4dd8mi3j per key RGB is much better as it let's you turn off most keys and keep just the ones you need for gaming... or the same just for typing
Hay Jarrod From the looks of it, it seems like you may have gotten a bad unit, cause in cineabench R23 the multicore scores are over 21k in the same predator helios 16 in other reviews
I am sure the real difference would come when using dlss 3.0, which was not used here. Dlss 3.0 frame generation is only supported by 4xx cards, and it gives min 30-40% bump over the last gen cards. Nvidia heavily marketed this feature for 4x cards, and Digital Foundary has also made a video about it. Tensor cores have also improved, so you will definitely get better results in Ray tracing scenarios. I had Predator 300 with rtx 3060 and recently brought predator helios 16 with rtx 4070. Generation on generation performance for 4xx cards are pathetic, but dlss 3.0 surely gives a nice boost to the frames.
I'm thinking of getting this Neo 16 or the Legion 5 slim. Which do you think has the better build quality? I could get a better deal with the Neo 16 but I had bad experience with Acer's aspire before so I'm kinda reluctant.
Hi Jarrod , I’ve gotten the 4070 version of this laptop and I’ve noticed when Im on quiet mode , the cpu will still reach temperatures of around 65-72 c . Should I be worried ? I don’t have a laptop stand and I only bought it today . Any advice ?
Just bought ' Because of your video ' I will be using for 4k video editing For my utube channel - I review HiFi Audio ' I wonder how the digital output will work with My $3k d.a.c. 😆 Or what you all call soundcard lol '
Question: Do i always have to adjust the Laptops powersetting using the button or acer predator? cant i use all of the hardwares ressources staying in normal mode? why doenst the gaming laptop adjust the power by itsself depending on the demand? I dont always want to activate Dyson V12 Turbo mode when i play a game and play around with the mode button...
Thoughts on this vs Asus Tuf 15.6" RTX 4070 17 1200h*? Price difference right now is minimal at $79. So which will have the better performance and life span?
Watched the full video might wanna check I didn't see a free NVME slot. The model I bought from best buy two weeks ago only had one NVME slot it did not have a free NVME slot!!!
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Does the Acer Helios Neo 16 have a battery conservation option like Lenovo's laptop ? My Lenovo Legion 5P is nearing 3 years of usage and the total battery capacity has only been reduced by 2% out of 80Wh.
edit: Acer does have battery conservation through Acer's Care Center software which stops battery from charging when reaching 80% capacity.
Legion 5 pro 2023 review when?
Hello! Newb question - can you keep it plugged it while playing for a few hours? Or do you need to unplug when full, then plug in again?
"Instead of having useful port icons on the back, Acer have instead chosen to spell out Predator in morse code"
I like how Jarrod says it in a monotonous manner🤣
6:15 Imagine turning on this laptop at 2AM and you forgot to turn of the boot sound before
It can be disabled from the Predator Sense App
I own it and didn’t even know you could do that😭
Got a Helios 300 with RTX 3060 graphics for $999 on sale from Best Buy, and I've been enjoying it for the past few days now ever since I got it! I'm glad that I saw your video on last years Helios 300!
with what processor?
12700h I think@@aadityarohit3331
I was looking between a few different laptops and seen a comment recommending this one, I look it up and it’s on sale for $1090 until tomorrow, $500 off and I’m literally about to go pick it up now! Curious to see the difference coming from a 60 fps capable ps4 and a 720p smart tv 😂
Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 PHN16-71 i5 13500HX with 4050 6Gb vram is this a good option in 2024
Can you give a review how are the thermals?
I got the 3070ti helios 300 thanks to you and it is a beast man. Thank you for helping me dodge the 3060 Slim i7. You're the man for this one. By the way the fan does NOT get that bad.
Why dodge the Lenovo Slim?
@@nikolayrogchev9628 Probably because the Slim 7i has a lower GPU power limit at only 100W.
@@Carman670 the one at bestbuy had a 3060 vs the 3070ti, 1080 res vs 1440, soldered ram (24 in lenovo vs up to 64 in Acer) and was about 300.00 more.
I have the 3060 slim 7i. But I paid only $1200 for it when it first came out. Great laptop for portability, but 3070ti is much more power.
Does ur acer dont any have issues
Been waiting for this review since Acer annouced Neo 16 and 18. Thanks Jarrod for your efforts!
This is a really nice machine. bought this last week and love it. nice temps and performance. I actually ended up getting the 4050/i5 model which i was also very impressed with.
what are you playing?
Is the fan noise is very annoying??
@@md.sabbir4101 it can get loud if on max but otherwise in normal auto mode it was pretty quiet imo.
@@Inferno77665bro please tell me if should I go with asus f-15 Or lenovo legion pro-5 Or acer predator helios neo-16?
@@niazahmed9535 gaming laptops aren’t always about specs keep that in mind is my advice. F15 has a really cheap feeling chassis. Performs fine tho. Legion is nice, haven’t used a Lenovo in awhile tho. Acer has a nice cooler and an impressive chassis for its price.
Acer with their Nitro 16 7840HS + 4060 and Asus TUF F15 with 12700H + 4060 really surprised with some budget pricing right out of the gates! The efficiency advantage of the 40 series may be handy for people living in warmer climates along with Frame Gen.
Also not all full power 3070Ti laptops are equally fast, as the 3070Ti is very power dependent and there is like a 5% difference between various laptops (like comparing a 3070Ti Omen against a 3070Ti Legion).
Agree bro but I'm so mad nobody made any review about asus tuf f15 4060 i7 12 gen variant
@@itachi7976 you are right
@@itachi7976 I'm planning to buy it soon but I'm no sure I'll buy predator Neo 16 i5 40590or tuf i7 4060
@@vikaslekule470 same bruh I'm thinking to go for asus in this diwali.. But just waiting for a good review
@@vikaslekule470 yeah the same for me as well , but most probably i might go for tuf because am a student and its 4060 vs 4050 we are talking about
Man i was at best buy picking up my Helios 300 and some poor familly was picking up the TUF with 8 gigs 3050ti for "college and gaming" tried HARD dropping hints that that wasnt it but to no avail. Shame really.
Or you could have just told them it wasn't a good idea. Unless you didn't wanna seem like a know it all but I bet whoever bought it is regretting it now. 😂
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Same here. Been waiting for a while now.
I know, that In Flames t-shirt pulled me in 😎👌🏻
Im happy with my accer predator and just as happy that your rocking a In Flames shirt!!! I met them at Ozzfest in 2004 in Indianapolis. Super cool dudes.
The price of this year's Helios is absolutely justified. Its performance is finally matching MSI's Titan... in terms of decibels, that is... :D
lol need a new graph, decibels per dollar
Long awaited review . Wouldn’t buy my laptop without your review
There is an option to change profile when removing charger. In profile there are setting for changing Modes and refresh rate etc. Between the Modes and profiles, it can get a bit confusing.
Happy with my Acer helios 300 2022, bought it early this year thanks to your recommendation. And weird that it already has a successor.
Have you experienced thermal problems?
I have the same version as in review bought it May 2023. Its a very good purchase. Loved it ❤
Great 👍
Hey, Jarrod! I have a quick question: would an SSD M2 WD Black SN850X with the heatsink fit in my Predator Helios 300 (2022 version) or should I buy the model without heatsink? Your reviews are always so helpful, thanks! :)
I bought one without Heat Sink.
Didn't make much difference, specially with the head dissipation system it has
Thanks for another great review, Jarrod. Was waiting so much for it!
I do find this interesting. I disabled 8 E cores on my GT77 and did a slight undervolt in bios (-0.50, I was scared lol). Basically all CPU power was devoted to 16 cores rather than 24.
I got 27.9 K cinebench (13980HX running 16 cores/24 threads) vs 32.8K with stock standard 24 core no undervolt settings.
I actually think, since the clock speeds were noticeably higher, it makes much more sense in almost all scenarios to run 16 cores rather than 24. There's no game that can benefit from 24 cores.
All cores in this mode ran at maximum all core turbo speeds without throttle, both P and E cores. When 24 cores are enabled, the P cores start at 4.8 in cinebench but settle to an all P core of 4.5 due to thermals. This is with no undervolt though.
Still, a maintained 4.5 is impressive in such a gargantuan laptop chip, but my games are legit running better with 16 cores, and in some cases, even better with ALL E cores disabled (scroll lock shortcut disables them, need to use OSK since laptop doesn't have physical scroll lock key). My Timespy as stock out of the box was over 18K on cpu and 22.1K total score.
It really goes to show the crazy wattage the massive GT77 can provide vs a relative compact 16" like this, as 16 cores here netted just under 20K in CB. After all, it's identical processor architecture.
Single core performance is up when power is all devoted to less cores, it benefits in every way unless you are doing hard core video RENDERING and want the all core grunt.
My GT77 hit 220W in CB R23 LOL but the latest bios caps it to 120W in all modes, it's a known bug, so GT77 users, do NOT update your bios till MSI fixes this!
I am very impressed with the 16 core thermals of this little Acer laptop. Indeed.
i dont understand 100% of what you said, but i got some weird thing with this product. Our predator i5 13500hx or i9 13900HX when testing (render premier or AIDA64, cpu burner) it wont load 100% or only a few sec (usually 80% with 1.6GHZ even with maximum setting). but when i went to bios and disable E core, it runs perfectly fine. But the same CPU on legion works fine without needing to change any setting
I have no idea what you just said.
It’s a gaming laptop like none other at this price point. Punches well above its weight and thermals are extremely advanced compared to other laptops. Plus points are thermals and display quality. While minus point is weight and battery life.
That's a bit pointless to disable E cores which are basically only useful in workloads like cinebench.
Doing this doesn't make any difference in games because the E cores are sleeping anyway. Disabling HT on the P cores can improve game fps very slightly.
Bought this one for 999$ for college and gaming. Outside of the laptop sometimes getting a tad bit too hot, I believe it's definitely a steal
Can I ask where and when did you get it at that price? Also a student trying to save money
@@YukimaruM it's at best buy from where I'm at. It was initially 1.3k but it was on sale for 999$. Don't know if the sale is still up
@@VryanMMA rip no. but I see they put up different sku with same model number yesterday and it was $1199 pre-tax so good enough for me! (today that's gone and sku with $1549 is back up
Will get this laptop.. Strangely enough here with the same specs, it just priced around USD1360 when converted wheres the Helios 300 is still cost more around USD1820.. Anyways keep up the good work Jarod!
I just got the Legion 5 82RB00AGMJ, with the current local lenovo TnG deal. There is the i7 model 82RB00AHMJ. I feel like it's a really good deal and the performance shouldn't be that different, but it is last gen with only 6GB of VRAM.
I would choose 2023 version cause I always panic at high temperature, this model seem really good. Beside I like the new design.
There are two different predator models
1. Helios 16 - which is more premium, has better display with higher refresh rate and can upgrade to 64 GB of RAM
2. Helios Neo 16- it has max 32 GB RAM and lower refresh rate but still keeps many features from the higher end model
Option 1 is more expensive due to more features. Neo 16 is the budget model. But punches well above its weight.
Thank you very much for all this information. Regarding adding a second nvme, do you know if there is room to install one with a heatsink, such as the Seagate FireCuda 530 ? Or must I get one without a heatsink?
Why are these laptops so cheap on Amazon? They’re running for $1,259.90 for 64RAM/2TB SSD GTX 4050
I currently can’t afford this, hopefully by end of June
I bought this laptop from your review and it's working perfectly so far! Thanks!
Also on a side note, Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 laptops with 40 series graphics have the tendency to freeze randomly. Not sure what causes this but mine was fixed by replacing one of the ram sticks.
Holy been waiting for this video for too long lol, glad u did it
I own this laptop with this exact same configuration. I have to say I'm really having fun playing games on it. Didn't really mind the bad things that Jarrod pointed out. Didn't really even know that they were bad things until he said that they were. Didn't really mind the framerates as anything above 60fps at high settings is playable anyway. The price in my country is well below msi gp77 which made me choose this one. Also the last year's model with 3070 still has more price than this one.
Have to tried features like Photoshop and Premiere Pro? If not, pls provide the honest feedback, am thinking of buying this laptop, too :)
@@GenVenFam I haven't, sorry. I've only bought this laptop to play Games.
@@GenVenFamit should run both efficiently you won't find any lag infact you can also edit 4k footages with this laptop, regarding photoshop you will also enjoy accurate colors
@@TechnoWizer Thank You :) !!
@@GenVenFam are you using it now?
Dont forget guys, this is the midrange helios 300, the luxury helios 300 in 2023 is Helios 16 (without the neo).
I just ordered this exact one from best buy for $1299 came with 1tb ssd instead of 512 will receive it in a couple days huge upgrade for me currently have dell gaming i5 7th gen and gtx 1050 never had any issues with it just time to upgrade
How are you enjoying it ? Its on sale rn for 800 and thinking of pulling the trigger for my first beginner gaming laptop
So far so good with it no issues and thermals are great I really like it
@@stevejrbug6294 just picked it up at best buy! Thanks much 🙏
@@Brop3zDang. It's $999 right now.
Acer has locked undervolting even in unlocked Core i9 HX processors. It's locked in CPU microcodes and can't be unlocked. Buyers be aware!!!!
What does that mean
@@delinquent3574Probably mean that u can’t lower the power that going through your cpu and lower power = lower temp.
Is that bad
@@fentmaxxer9262 Yes , Because if it keeps running high temps, it’ll reduce the lifespan of the CPU.
How much more battery drain is that?
I’m curious in 6:55, what caused the frame rate to drop down drastically during the test. I’m not a tech savvy so i was wonder if it was a hardware or software issue.
I'm going for the Helios Neo 16 w/ 4060 because the Helios 300 w/ 3070ti actually costs around $500 usd more in my country
Recently bought the acer predator helios neo 16 i5 13500HX RTX 4050. This model is the best value for money gaming laptop in 2023. You can review it. Temps are very good 70-80° (performance mode+auto) even my room temperature is 30-35°c.
Price?
@@Smart_boy2001 1,199$
In terms of build quality, how good do you think it is?
@@AirSupportIncomimg build quality is enough strong and sturdy. It gives a heavy metallic feel. you will need some days to get used to its weight. Hinges are strong, with no unusual wobble at all. But I found that the screens' bezel quality isn't that great. The Bezel quality should be better. Overall build quality is good enough. The main problem is that the laptop is a fingerprint magnet and I feel very hard to remove it. And the heavy weight I've already said that you'll need some time to get used to it, so heavy weight isn't a problem.
@@sbx2093 thanks
Battery not being screwed in is an instant no from me. That's like connecting a fuel tank to a car engine with common duck tape.
Zero points. Instant fail. Doesn't matter how it performs. Fire the battery guy from the Predator design team ASAP!
In my country I have bought new Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 (2023) for just $1000, so I think it is the best choice for me :D
Thanks man.
Hoping to see the review of the much more interesting regular Helios 16 soon 🤞
Hopefully!
Hello Jarrod, I love your videos man! It's been helping me quite a lot on researching to buy a decent gaming laptop under a certain amount of budget and I have selected two models which I've liked the most.
They are "Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 PHN16 | 2023 Model | 16.0 inch WUXGA Display 165Hz Gaming Laptop ( i5-13500HX, 16GB, 512GB SSD, RTX 4050 6GB (Max TDP-140), W11 )" and "Gigabyte G5 KE | 2022 Model | 15.6″ FHD 144Hz Display Laptop ( i5-12500H, 8GB, 512GB SSD, RTX3060 6GB (Max TDP- 115W), W11 )".
Can you please help me out on selecting the best suited one considering overall bases (e.g. Performance, Monitor, Thermal Management, Build quality, longevity)?
Looking at how dlss is supported by most new games now, I think frame generation looking at long term will make it more worth it.
I think for the SSD write speed is a windows 11 problem, as my SSD used to get about 4Gb/s write, now I'm getting only 800mb/s after the latest windows update.
(My SSD used space is less than 50% )
Love your in depth laptop reviews! I got one request can you please do an review of acer's predator helios 16 with rtx 4080 variant.
I think it would be great if Jarrod could manage to get the new Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i which comes in 14" and 16" and to do an in-depth review of such an interesting device 🙌🏻
This was the unit I have choose for a replacement of my old laptop which was the horrible 2021 model it was having issues with heating and the board always gets fried even tho its a new board and the shop said they don't have that old model on stock so they made me choose to replace the old model with a new one and I found the new model with the best cooling so far and just added a small amount for a new laptop I'm glad that I have a new replacement and it was the new model of helios 300 and this video really helped me to choose what unit to get for a replacement of my old helios 300
Nice and thorough review J, appreciated! Your crystaldiskmark write results seem a little off though, i'm getting 5400/3000/900/332-ish in write tests. Do you happen to know the wattage of USB-PD in this device?
I was looking for a review but I couldn’t find one so I just bought it 2 days and now you release it 😂
How is it overall great?
The design really impress me ngl. If i were able to get another laptop, it might be this laptop. And it's has better value than ROG Strix G16
Hey Jarrod. Could you try the iets GT 500 cooling pad. Most people highly recommend it in the ASUS and Alienware subreddits. In my case my g14 2022 goes from 95c on the cpu in turbo down to the low 70s when gaming. Huge difference.
Yeah but its really load like a jet engine. Lol
All of the games I'm currently playing offer Frame Gen, and it made this Neo 4060 model an easy pick for $1,100 bucks.
Exactly my thoughts and the screen resolution. I just purchased one.
@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod! Would highly appreciate if you could reply as I have been torn choosing a laptop for about 2 weeks now...
I can get this exact same specs for the Neo 16 and the same Legion 5 you have with the R7 6800H and RTX 3060.
Which of the two would you recommend to be used for content creation and gaming as well? Thanks!
Hey Jarrod! I was wondering if you will review the Acer Nitro 16 anytime soon? anyway love your content
Brothers I want to buy a laptop but I am not sure. Should I buy this or Helios 300 or Nitro 5? (their system probably will be rtx 4060 8gb and i9 or i7 12th or 13rd generation + I will mainly use it for programming and gaming)
I have it is insane I get like 200 fps on Fortnite and I got it on sale for 990$ I have none neo
I still haven't decided whether to go for this one or the acer nitro 17, which one would you recommend? Heeeelppp
dude my predator helios 300 from 2020 is still a powerhosue and i have used it for thousands of hours. it hasnt slowed down at all. i am waiting until i have problems before i get a new one :)
The RGB light bar and RGB per key keyboard is now present on more premium Predator 16 and 18
Toned down gamer aesthetics? Still looks urgh...
Hey Jarrod amazing video as always! I wanted to know if you’d consider reviewing the Alienware X16 soon since there’s not a lot of reviews on it
I typically have issues getting Alienware. Hopefully we'll see some soon though.
Lol everytime you swing these lids like crazy drive me freaking nuts
great review!!! loving the work but I was not expecting Neo to be the replacement for the Helios 300. I assumed Helio16/18 the replacement for the 300, right??
so im pretty sure the even newer model of the helios neo 16 got better microphone and better cam because my cam for my helios neo 16 is way better quality, even though i got a i5 13500hx and 4050 gpu in it
Good video, I am upgrading from a Nitro 5 i5-10300H + 3060 to a Neo 16 i9-13900HX + 4060 model.
I got the Neo 16 i7-1300HX+4060 1TB for Black Friday on sale for ~$1050 and that’s coming from a Surface Pro 7 I’ve had since 2020 lol. Finally have something I can game on and edit photos
@@CDGage If you're in the US may I know from where did you buy it? On bestbuy it's currently for 1100$
I just go my helios 300 with i9 12900h, rtx 3070, 32gb RAM, 1tb storage for 1200 euro. Watching this make me feel better.
This was 1299 tax free this weekend so I grabbed it. Now this video makes me sad. But I'm 2x Corsair ddr5 16gb for 32gb and a 2tb ssd and I hope this will be my rig for years to come... Like 2 or 3 years ...
Hay Jarrod, I am planning to buy these laptop with 4050 GUP, I am professional 3D artist and working with Maya, Unreal Engine and Blender software. Is this laptop is ok for this kind of work load OR can you suggest different laptop with same budget. Thank you big FAN.
So the laptop has 2 65w USB-C Thunderbolt 4 ports, can i use both ports to get 130w to charge the laptop ?
Unfortunately not
that camera is straight up 240p 💀💀 like man im not asking for much for basic video call but wow
Very helpful review. Would you recommend this laptop to someone who has not yet purchased a gaming laptop? In other words, a beginner.
it really depends on what you need it for, but this is a decent mid range option and should play most games without issue.
@@JarrodsTech Thank you.
May I ask what your pick is for a dual-boot Windows/Linux system?
For example, Lenovo is pretty good and supports many features in the boot, and hotkeys are working fine, including coolers mode. At the same time, on the Asus series, I had some problems with bios (each time I switched systems, the time was messed up), and some hotkeys, including cooler modes, didn't work.
What alternatives to Lenovo laptops exist?
Would you recommend this even with the recent intel situation? I found some great deals on this model though with the 4050 + 13500hx. Or should i just go amd to be safe right now
There is no need take risk. Just buy laptop with amd cpu.
Got it for $1000 today at Best Buy and purchased a 32gb RAM
I see many business and workstation laptop not focusing on thermals like gaming laptop and thats a same . I am a software engineer with a dell precision laptop with 13800h and when all my tools and projects are up the CPU stays at 50-70% and laptop never stays above 3ghz because of thermals . The Highest temperature measure was 101c and average per core around 80C
Got a rtx4060 I5-13500HX 1440p for 1k, it's so good!
I think I'd rather just get the Helios 16 rather than the Neo, since the Neo is plastic & I'm too used to the premium aluminium feel of older Acers (& I hate the flex of plastic).
Both models I have available to me are RTX 4070 & say they can last up to 8 hours (battery life for Li-ion has gotten pretty bad & I hate Li-po).
It's kind of weird how keyboards minimize the shift to fit full sized arrow keys, it's a bit unnecessary.
What would you consider the best gaming/video editing laptop? ive looked into a few and im not sure, budget £1200-£2000
if you'll use it for editing most of the time, I would add a monitor to your budget
Brands that come to mind is Acer, Razer and Samsung. But there's also alot of factors like the games, programs running, and form factor
The 300 Acer Helios 2022 3070th had per key RGB, a better color gamut, performed better and is now cheaper. Unless you want frame generation and a 16:10 aspect ratio why would you go for this laptop at the current asking price?
want the latest generation CPU and GPU, plus I'm not gonna need per key RGB. RGB only is enough for me, whereas it gives 4 zone RGB, much like a cherry on the top.
@@user-ig4dd8mi3j per key RGB is much better as it let's you turn off most keys and keep just the ones you need for gaming... or the same just for typing
us bro
My helios neo 16 were unable to run any games or other apps after it reach 30% battery life, lag lag and lagggggggg after 30%.
That's normal plug it in lol
This laptop finally entered my budget range. Would you still recommend this laptop considering the high-end Intel processors are oxidizing?
Thank you so much for telling Linux Support!! Almost no one does that!! You earned a subscriber.
Thanks Jarrod waiting for this review ✌️✌️✌️can u do same with MSI Katana 15/17
Just bought the same model in the video for 900$. Also grabbed 2x16gb to upgrade to 32gb ram. Absolutely worth it 100% at this price.
I saw it in Bestbuy for $1079. Where did you buy it?
Are you planning to review HP Omen transcend by any chance? love your reviews btw keep it up!!
Yes! I have one in testing at the moment.
@@JarrodsTech Can't wait to see the review!
Hey @Jarrod, any updates on when we can expect the Helios 16 review video to drop?
Hay Jarrod
From the looks of it, it seems like you may have gotten a bad unit, cause in cineabench R23 the multicore scores are over 21k in the same predator helios 16 in other reviews
This vs the legion 5i pro 2023 please.. omg im torn between these two
I bought the one with 4060 and QHD screen
Amazing and loved it , couldn't find anything close with this price and screen 500 nits , crazy
How much did it cost you?
I am sure the real difference would come when using dlss 3.0, which was not used here. Dlss 3.0 frame generation is only supported by 4xx cards, and it gives min 30-40% bump over the last gen cards. Nvidia heavily marketed this feature for 4x cards, and Digital Foundary has also made a video about it. Tensor cores have also improved, so you will definitely get better results in Ray tracing scenarios. I had Predator 300 with rtx 3060 and recently brought predator helios 16 with rtx 4070. Generation on generation performance for 4xx cards are pathetic, but dlss 3.0 surely gives a nice boost to the frames.
DLSS 3 cannot be used to fairly compare. We test with it on/off in the RTX 40 vs 30 comparisons to demontrate it, but that's it.
Which of these 2 would you get, helios 300 2022 12500h+3060 or the neo 16 2023 13500hx+4050? The helios 300 is 1,029$ and the neo 16 is 1064$.
Same question here, so.. what did you get? and which one is better?
Will you be doing a review on the Acer Helios Neo 18 as well sometime in the future?
I'm thinking of getting this Neo 16 or the Legion 5 slim. Which do you think has the better build quality? I could get a better deal with the Neo 16 but I had bad experience with Acer's aspire before so I'm kinda reluctant.
Which one you bought ?
That's what I was talking about?
When will you review acer helios 18 ? Pls recommend me which to choose amongst these 3 laptop with 4080
1) lenovo 7 pro
2) aorus 17x
3) acer helios 18
We requested it from Acer, but not sure if they will send it.
@@JarrodsTechhopefully you will get that laptop for review
Hi Jarrod , I’ve gotten the 4070 version of this laptop and I’ve noticed when Im on quiet mode , the cpu will still reach temperatures of around 65-72 c . Should I be worried ? I don’t have a laptop stand and I only bought it today . Any advice ?
No thats not too bad
Just bought ' Because of your video ' I will be using for 4k video editing For my utube channel - I review HiFi Audio '
I wonder how the digital output will work with My $3k d.a.c. 😆
Or what you all call soundcard lol '
Hi Jarrod. How about Helios 300 3070 vs Neo? Still Helios? Thanks
I really enjoyed watching this after video! I always wonder what actually happened during and after! 🎉🎉🎉
Question: Do i always have to adjust the Laptops powersetting using the button or acer predator? cant i use all of the hardwares ressources staying in normal mode? why doenst the gaming laptop adjust the power by itsself depending on the demand? I dont always want to activate Dyson V12 Turbo mode when i play a game and play around with the mode button...
Thoughts on this vs Asus Tuf 15.6" RTX 4070 17 1200h*? Price difference right now is minimal at $79. So which will have the better performance and life span?
Watched the full video might wanna check I didn't see a free NVME slot. The model I bought from best buy two weeks ago only had one NVME slot it did not have a free NVME slot!!!
So which is the best 4060 laptop? MSI vs Lenovo vs Acer
As for repasting, once you need to repaste the GPU, do you need to replace the liquid metal in the CPU as well?
A good question, im trying to find it's answear too.