TF7 TALKATHON | Transformers: Rise of the Beasts movie review/ramble!
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For the Sonic and Tails codenames, it's a blink it and you'll miss it moment, but the little brother does call Mirage Knuckles when he's checking on them in the final fight.
Mirage’s illusion are based off of schematics that are stored in his t-cog. So if he scanned a garbage truck he becomes the cab and the rest is cover by hard light illusions
Also Airazor is speculated/implied to have had her t-cog destroyed by a predacon who followed her group of maximals. That predacon is the one who eliminated the rest of Airazor’s away-team of sorts.
Source?
@@eyywannn8601imagination
@@eyywannn8601she said she’s the last one when she met primal again
*why don't you back it up with a source?*
Regarding Scourge's mask, a list of cut content from the movie has been released and there was supposed to be a scene explaining Scourge's backstory and how he became a herald of Unicron. Most likely the mask coming off was supposed to be a callback to that. I'm hoping we'll get a director's cut with all that stuff added back in (except Wheeljack's sex jokes, I don't want to see that)
With Unicron not being Earth in this movie and the mention of Mark Wahlberg, it feels like Caple Jr is trying to scream at us that the Bumblebee movie was a reboot but that one producer is holding a gun to his head so he can't outright say it.
he outright said it in a interview, both him and hasbro have said bumblebee and this movie are part of a soft reboot the producer is just a dumbass who thinks because its bumblebee and optimus its part of the same universe
This movie was cut to hell like BvS. I hope they'll release an ultimate edition with all the cut content added back in.
Wait what? Wheel jack sex jokes?
I think they're going more for an X-men Days of Future Past set up personally, we reached a point in the originals where the writers wrote themselves into a wall (Just like X3) so we go back, redo history and then have the two points meet up, have a big ruck and set out on a new altered timeline where the Bay movies never happen, they're even following the X films decade jumping shtick too.
That makes sense. It REALLY feels, with the mention that he's the last survivor of his planet and the mask reveal, like there's something more going on with Scourge than we got to see, and I wanna know what!
I would love if wheeljack showed up in every future movie but with a different accent and a different design each time. I just think it would be really funny
Ok this would be funny
Give him a vampire accent next time and run with it
I would absolutely admire them if they kept up that running gag
Honestly that be a good gag for the movies
Next movie have Bronson Pinchot do the voice like Balki from Perfect Strangers.
Noah, Elena and Charlie have really made me realise that humans dont have to be an annoying drag on the plot. This reboot era has them be active participants alongside the robots. Mirage and Noah feel like theyve become mates. I love how trusting Mirage is of this man that tried to break into him. I agree we should have gotten the Elena and Arcee moment, but I can buy her curiousity winning out over fear anytime. Lovely cast
Except Noah was kind of mid and Elena was only there for the plot to progress
@@lonewolf9578 Noah was a pretty good character, TF human characters seem to work best when they are a part of the military. He had an entire arc of setting aside his selfishness to save the world and had an interesting story with his brother.
@@HenryLouis21 They introduce him being a former member of the military and then do nothing with it
And then there’s Elena who not only was only there for the plot but her actresses performance was terrible
@@lonewolf9578 He has military training and was a techie in the military, a skill which he used to make a living in New York. Hell, it actually paid off when he finally joined G.I. Joe so I say it went somewhere. Also, the actress for Elena was pretty descent and her performance was pretty good.
@@HenryLouis21 he literally does nothing with his military skills past his introduction when he works in the tv thing and then when he goes for the job interview
And Elena’s acting and performance was terrible and felt unenthusiastic and wooden. It makes the acting from the rings of power cast look Oscar worthy
I think my favorite thing about the scene where Noah and Optimus and Primal work together is that “Arrival to earth” works as musical storytelling.
In the original film, ATE is mainly used as the theme for the autobots and/or good guys, especially as an introduction to the autobots. It’s the phrase “Behold, the wonder of the transformers coming to our world” distilled into a musical score. It is played as a sort of greeting to us for the autobots.
In ROTB, it’s not used as an introduction, we see Optimus and company and are introduced to them without ATE. So it’s use at the end seemed a bit odd at first to me. But then I realized it works as a way of complementing the fact that Optimus now sees earth as place with people worth saving, it’s not his pit stop to just leave in the dust, it’s his home.
“Arrival to earth” acts as a way to tell us the audience “behold, the transformers are now truly dedicating themselves to earth”. It’s not a greeting, it’s a triumphant musical moment of two peoples coming together as one, it’s optimus arriving to earth in a mental sense, not a physical one. And that is awesome.
Arcee and Wheeljack admittedly don't do _much,_ but
They DID have a cut romance arc/dynamic thing which would've absolutely cinched their presence in this movie
Like Transit, it was unfortunately cut from the final movie, but
_aaaaa_ man, why can't we just GET giant robots doing shit like being dorks and being into each other
Also Wheeljack was apparently also supposed to offer Optimus his glasses while they were surveying Peru and before Noah and Elena infiltrate the parade, which would have been _hilarious_
Ironically, in Beast Wars, the war between the Maximals and Predacons did result in the proto humans slowly evolving further
I love the way they handled Primal’s name because it (A) was handled well and (B) hit the “never meet your heroes” trope. Primal basically goes, “man… this guy sucks.”
Was it "this guy sucks" or "this guy is at a crossroads and his constant failures are eating away at him, causing him to lash out" because I saw the latter I'll be honest.
@@symbiote1982pkDefinitely your take was better.
The GI Joe thing was brilliant because instead of generic military guys you can have actual beloved characters supporting the transformers
I sort of feel the same way. I mean, I expected Sector 7, but if you wanna give me a movie of this same quality that features Optimus Prime and Duke doing cool shit together, then I'm totally down.
The way I see Mirage’s multiple vehicle modes is as this.
He has a large file full of 3D models for his holograms, and also for alternate vehicles to keep in hiding, so he has all the vehicles on file and can switch between them as he sees fit.
And in terms of mass shifting into a garbage truck, I’ve heard someone theorise that he just turns into the main chassis and can and the entire garbage section is a hologram.
That’s just my thoughts on Mirage and his many cars
I loved Optimus’ mouth and nose. They hyper-accentuated how grumpy and depressed he was, and thank GOD Optimus Prime is finally allowed to have emotions after 36 years
I guess that's how you know some boomer hasn't watched TF related media since G1.
@@_V.Va_ really? xD
Mirage's V-Modes: Bro stockpiled ones, and the Dump Truck? He took the backend of another one, and became just the cab.
Its a reboot, the director said it in a recent interview. Everytime lorezno tries to say otherwise, the director rolls his eyes
I think Hasbro has dialed back somewhat on their "shared universe" ambitions, but they still seem very desperate to make G.I. Joe a 'thing', and are currently convinced the way to do that is to hitch it to the Transformers movie franchise.
My head canon is that "Weeljack" is the "Brian" or "Chris" of robot names.
I think the idea with Mirage's multiple alt-modes is that he's a shifter, like Amalgamous Prime and Makeshift.
I genuinely thought it was going to be M.A.S.K. at the end, the organization having recovered the wreckage and bodies from Peru and using them as a basis for the transforming vehicles.
M.A.S.K. is a Kenner property Transformers and GI Joe are both Hasbro. A Kenner team-up would be M.A.S.K. and Care Bears.
@@hirozhen7475But since Tonka bought Kenner and Hasbro bought Tonka long ago, that's not really a problem.
I still have no idea how people think this is still in the Bayverse. I know the old director refuses to let it die and he's very vague, but the new director has very clearly stated that this is 100% in a new continuity and timeline.
That being said, I really enjoyed this film. I'm looking forward to the future installments because apparently the next one has already been greenlit.
Unicron is the main proof it's a reboot because he's not the Earth.
A lot of Energon vibes:
Pink Motorcycle Arcee
Maximals show up
Terrorcons are the minions of Unicron
What this has over the Bayformer movies is a massive amount of heart and soul, and I love that about it. Yes it’s a pew pew action movie but it feels human
Disagree about that, I still feel heart and soul in those first 3 movies. At least when it came to the animation of the Transformers themselves.
What if John Cena's character came back as Duke? think if they want to have military guys in a future movie, it doesn't really change much if they're Sector 7 or NEST or GI Joe. They don'T even need to focus on them at all, just be a couple dudes in funky uniform with as much focus as Rhinox and Cheetor got in this movie.
28:19 argree that Transfomers doesnt need GiJoe, but the ending felt more like GiJoe needs Transformers in order to get SOME box office success. Time, and a decent script, will tell.
Got to agree with you on this: It's good to have Transformers back in the summer again! And this was a good film, as you said too. Not perfect; but not the Bayverse mind-numbing dribble either (Transformers creating everything, for example).
you just know they would've been behind the great wall of china if the bay movies continued
so funny thing about the Optimus face, in this film they designed it to look like Peter Cullen himself
I took Mirage as being a "shifter," a special kind of Cybertronian with hyper-transformation powers. Frenzy in the first movie did similar things.
Frenzy only transformed twice.
I happened to notice the detail of Arcee dropping an F-bomb. I found it pretty funny.
I just saw the movie tonight, when did she do that?
I think TF Prime having Unicron be the Earth was fine and it's a creative take. I actually liked the conflict of "how do you fight/kill the big bad WHEN YOU LIVE ON HIM?" Thing is, it was nice to see ONCE. The Bay films trying to ape the idea was cheap and felt like a knockoff, not to mention an idea you knew they weren't going to follow through on ever even if those movies DID continue. I guarantee that the next movie in line would have just forgot about it to do something else becuase that's what those movies have always done and everything they've ever baited or teased ended up being a throwaway misdirect. But I digress, I was fine with TF Prime doing it but yeah, It's not an idea we need to see again ever so I'm glad RotB brought him back to being an outside threat.
Also, I'm fine with GI Joe being a shared universe because it technically always has been, but much like before, just let it be it's own thing. They did the one episode of G1 where they fought Cobra Commander (and I don't think they ever actually even named him as such but it was fairly obvious) but otherwise, the Joes and Transformers kept their adventures separate and to their own cartoons. They can take place in the same continuity but they don't need to be tied at the hip or even really interact with one another. Sure, after they've both had their own fun, you can do a big silly crossover event movie but then everybody has to back to their own homes after the slumber party's over and go back to playing by themselves again. I don't want to see them go full MCU and continue to pop in and out of each other's movies.
I know they've had several crossovers in comic books, but some of those were their own continuities, and maybe that's just easier?
I'm glad you mentioned the tower construction, that took me for a loop for a bit because I was expecting him to DM his Boo again and it didnt happen?
The drive in line was still my favourite optimus moment in this movie, I think
I like to think Unicron was using his power from across the universe to copy the blueprints from the planet he consumed to generate it remotely.
Probably the best Transformers movie in my opinion
Also... if they MUST have military in the movies like in the previous ones... why not make them GIJoe?
For me, I think it's arguably one of the worst. Better than AOE and TLK, but not better than those first 3 films, I'm sorry bro. Especially when Prime was so damn WEAK in this film.
@@kennythetrend3688 It’s okay, everyone has their tastes and preferences. I don’t think Prime is weak at all, he’s as overpowered as in every movie, getting most of the kills, most of the battles and making all the other bots almost redundant, like in the other movies…
I loved stratosphere
He's like Scatman John but robot
Kinda wished he also started kicking ass alongside Bee when he came in to drop him
I'm wondering if Stratosphere's whole deal is that he's just too old to be a fighter in any capacity? I think that would be interesting.
I think Wheeljacks design is the most controversial due to being the least G1 inspired of everyone, I still like it tho, and I love Stratosphere with all my being despite just being the Astrotrain of the Autobots
Favorite joke of the movie: 'I'm not following you, i'm escapeing in the same direction' also that pre-credits scene made me giggle like a child. also...Noah's GI Joe Codename is probably going to be Dialtone or Breaker and i am here for it!
I love that they play off Bumblebee's constant showboating and borrowing of one-liners throughout the films as just him being an impressionable young lad who's seen too many drive-in films and wants to look cool.
Which is not helped by the fact that he's the only one in the group built for war from the get-go and is thus technically the most qualified next to Optimus.
Overall I'm glad this is helping people understand that the Transformers kind of NEED human involvement to properly contextualize how cool the world is. Otherwise part of the appeal of them - being giant robots as a baseline with smaller ones being specialized members - is lost. IDW got away with it because they focused explicitly on the other half - they're living, feeling beings with an explicit humanity to them trying to figure out how the universe around them works and what's best for themselves.
As for stuff like Mirage's shifting, I have a theory that most of the surviving Autobots are reincarnations/descendants of different members of the Thirteen Primes. Prime's a straight-up reincarnation of his first self(Has to learn how to extend olive branches), Mirage is Amalgamous (Always changing shapes), Arcee is either Solus or Alchemist (Fits her whole "Energon era motorcycle" look as a foreman for a mining operation), Wheeljack is Quintus (Strong appreciation for life in all forms), Boss Monkey is Onyx (Deeply spiritual and understands the flow of nature), Stratosphere is Vector(Energon exposure at the end of the film causes his body to effectively de-age a few hundred years) and Bumblebee is Prima (Bringer of hope for a brighter tomorrow)
I'm also glad that most of the cybertronians that die get a bit of pathos attached to them, even Scourge to an extent since Optimus looks more disgusted with himself than happy, as if he realized this isn't who he wants to be and what he could be if he just stopped caring about things other than his own wants and desires. Airazor NOT exploding or falling to bits was a welcome surprise and it made Primal's whole euthanasia bear-hug feel haunting. It's kind of wild that he didn't get the kill on Scourge, but I'm also kind of refreshed by it since it implies he's already learned to cope with losing people close to him (And probably blew off the excess steam by reducing Battletrap into something resembling a pile of thoroughly-ignored road signs.)
I think the mask-off moment for Scourge was meant to be some big hint that he has been through the goddamn WRINGER to get where he is now, and whatever did that to him is the only other time he knew shame until losing the Transwarp key.
Two things I'd like to mention:
1.) Mirage's personality screamed out to me 'I'm G1 Hot Rod', but his abilities were definitely Mirage. So I can understand the naming.
2;) I'm hoping the G I Joe tie-in is more used in a Live Action G I Joe franchise instead of in future Transformers movies. G I Joe needs that connection more. I just want to see Channing Tatum, Dwayne Johnson, John Cena and Josh Duhamel as Joes.
About the Sonic and Tails bit where you're talking about how Noah and his brother talk through the radio, Noah's brother does actually attempt to talk to Mirage after his supposed death and his codename was Knuckles which was pretty fun.
Man, I would love it if Wheeljack was called Tow-Line, it would be a great reference to the Energon line
But still, it was a great movie.
That or downshift it would be cool
Hip Hop being the main music choice makes sense, it dropped in the 80s and gained momentum, by 94 it was definitely the most popular music form.
Maybe so but here it just feels wrong.
To emphasize a time period as they did in "Being Erica" it is great.
But for Transformers it has to to be heavy metal (or at least rock music).
Haven't seen it yet, but Thew's enthusiasm during this review makes me more excited to. That and finally a Transformers movie that actually focuses primarily on the Transformers.
Enthewsiasm
Not really. It takes a HOUR before the Maximals show up and Rhinox never even speaks!
From what I was told the movie was cut down to the bone. Not only was time between action scenes removed, but action scenes were removed as well.
"Jem and the Holograms, THEN we'll talk."
...and now the theme song is in my head. Thank you.
I saw a comment from one of the film's designers that the Scourge face reveal was supposed to convey that he was a zombified husk taken over by unicron? Cool idea but I didn't catch it in the theater
The Sonic and Tails thing does come back! The little brother ends up calling Mirage Knuckles when they have the walkie talkie convos! I thought that was a cute detail but it was just in the one scene so totally understand it was easy to miss.
This was the best TF aside from the first one and Bbee. It felt like a high budget Saturday morning cartoon. Also got “avengers vs thanos” feels. Great review Thew!
Calling the F-1 racer a Combiner Wars moment.
G1 Mirage: "Am I a joke to you?"
I was born in 04. I grew up with Bayverse. Growing up, I realized that the movies weren't great. However, hearing Arrival to Earth while seeing Noah face the odds, pulling for dear life to save Optimus, and Primal AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CAN'T KEEP BEING PRETENTIOUS, I CRIEEEEDDD MY CHILDHOOD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
it comes after bumblebee. optimus even mentioned how bumblebee had a good experience with one human, referencing charlie.
So glad you also liked it, Thew. It was great! Got that Optimus truck popcorn bucket I liked it so much
I accidentally made the theater crack up at Bumblebee's death
Bumblebee: *dies*
Prime: "this cannot bee"
me whispering to friend: ".....was that a pun?"
like four guys near me *uproarious laughter*
also Noah and Mirage "fused" together like a Dragon Ball character granted Mirage became a suit of armor for Noah.
I personally enjoyed the film, it's not a 10/10 cinematic masterpiece, you can probably pick apart plot and character and whatever, but who cares? I came to see transformers, and I got exactly that. Fun characters, big action, and some feels sprinkled in.
Giving Scourge a big role as villain was a great idea. I love how these new movies are giving new villains before the inevitable Megatron appearance as the big bad.
Overall, I'm liking the new direction and I really hope they keep going with this.
It was pretty good, wasn't Bumblebee great, but it was definitely a good showing. I think if it had a maybe 20-30 more minutes to flesh itself out and establish the new universe, it would of been WAY better, solid 6.5/10. Holy fuck mirage is amazing, I genuinely thought I wasn't going to like him but he actually made me full on laugh multiple times in the theatre. Also the Marky mark thing was golden.
My personal list goes as such
1. DOTM
2. Bumblebee
3. 07
4. ROTB
5. AOE
6. ROFT
7. TLK
I don't mind that Wheeljack has an accent or is a VW Bus, but as a Latino, that "Racist Hermano" joke did not land whatsoever, and my dad rolled his eyes so hard at that scene lol. Also, honestly I dont hate the robot design, if they just instead made him a nice darkish green, and then have his tradional coil face with the glowing ears be for his battlemask, like Prime and Bumblebee have.
It's probably just me... but Scourge's face reveal, kinda reminded me of Tarn... how he wears a mask, representing his affiliation (a terrorcon version) and how underneath that mask is a scarred up face... anyone else think that?
yeah, alot of people are saying that
I will say, I did like it that the plaque that opened the GIJoe door said “Real Hero Award”, in reference to ‘G.I.Joe: Real American Heroes’
Yeah, these films are reboots. The director has confrmed it multiple times. This film is way different from The 2022 version but hopefully a director cut comes out. The director also said that he wants to being in Megatron for the next movie. In his g1 form. (Rotb Megatron box art)
Fact: Arcee and Wheeljack were meant to have ALOT more scenes but it would be focusing on an ongoing romance between them and was ultimately cut
Also ROTB is 100% a reboot 07 to TLK isnt cannon to ROTB but the bumblebee movie is
14:20 I read that in an earlier cut it clarified that he was using his hologram abilities, at least with the dump truck, I'm not sure about the other cars he turned into tho
I promise you it would’ve made a bit more sense if Wheeljack was Beachcomber especially since he’s talking nature wen he first shows up on screen
There was also a clip during Prime’s fight with Scourge where he rears his head when pushing the dude into the lava fall. I took that as Prime isn’t the blood thirsty killer of the Bay-verse. Only getting to that point when pushed to the absolute brink.
I’m glad people are getting the garbage truck. It’s hologram shenanigans. Lol.
And it was wonderful to have bumblebee get sidelined for an EPIC respawn jump(ala Fortnite) and his design was BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!
I did a livestream with some of the other guys in the YT sphere and we also looked at the laser scene like TF?
"All of our dads die, that isn't a personality." Thanks for that.
The point of Scourge losing his mask was a clever little visual hint that this previously unstoppable force of nature that had handily defeated Optimus Freakin Prime in a 1-on-1 earlier was finally made vulnerable, mortal, defeatable. That was the moment that a ray of hope for our heroes shone through.
I cannot believe Thew just name dropped Angolmois energy.
This is gonna be fun, i can feel it.
i think the alt mode shifting was a completely unique mirage power, we dont see anyone else do it and the terrorcons still scan alt modes if im remembering correctly
Ok as far as Noah goes
Military part explains why he didn’t just back down to mirage, and set up that he actually knows how to fight so the exo suit wouldn’t be bs, also why he willingly decides to fight when he sees how big this really is
The tech part
He makes tech for the poor
He fixed mirage
He made the walk-in talkie him and Kris use
I’d recommend watching again
I am very disappointed we didn't get Bus.
OP was in the bus yard
But I guess a kill so early would feel like Bay Prime.
i feel like the reason that Transit was cut, was to like, "buildup" to Prime being kinda moody and then also have somewhat of an "arc," like the director was talking about. I don't mind "moody" OP because that's kinda what I like in a hero and I'm also happy they didn't go totally into Bayverse - they just left some parts and pieces in there, esp the end where he does a Mortal Kombat-style "fatality" on Scourge.
@@fduranthesee Well, we're getting Bus. And he's a lot less Bay Brutal with insta kill, and he has a goal other than kill
18:57 will always go down as my biggest letdown ever. Just an apparently intelligent submarine letting itself get bopped around by two angry dudes
I feel like a good explanation to come qith the fact that Optimus is so Brutal in Dark of the moon is not only because of the deaths of Ironhide and other bots, but also the deaths of so many civilians that were killed by the decepticons from the Seige of Chicago
My head canon for Scoruge's mask is that when Scourge gave himself up to Unicron, he tore off his face and branded him with his own insignia.
i think its fair that primes more violent, he wants to go home, he's sick of hiding. Scourge (temporarily) kills two members of his crew too and almost an entire planets worth of people, so i can forgive it
i said this when i was only like 5 minutes into the video, i am embarrassed
Then why leave Cybertron in the first place.
Plus he sent Bee to earth so either he knew what a cess-pool this planet is or did not do his research.
@@bigds9fan he was in the middle of getting shot at, he sent other autobots to other planets so bee wasnt the only one
Feels WEIRD calling it TF7. I get that it is, but I feels wrong somehow.
indeed
My fave scene was where Battletrap vs asked for a real fight then primal just hits him with a rock and prime was like. He was mine. Also was hoping nest was the ending too
I think that we have seen a lot of military in the movies, it makes sense to make them GI Joe. I think it's a great idea and I'm excited to see the direction this franchise is going with them potentially being them. This is by far my favorite transformers live action movie. Very closely followed by the first one.
In Transformers terms, it's pretty watchable since they treat the robots as characters rather than props for the most part, plus Noah's motivations as a character hold some decent weight which kept me somewhat invested. A noticeable step up from the Bay films (and even Bumblebee, which I found an underwhelming riff on movies such as The Iron Giant) in my opinion. Judging it from a more general perspective, I do find it to end up being Just Another Summer Action Blockbuster when compared to say, Across the Spider-Verse. It's not doing anything especially adventurous or bold to really leave an impression on me plot wise, although they usually tend to nail the special effects for these films so there's that. Therefore, I feel confident to give it a 5/10. The tie in toys are good at least, and that's what the Transformers brand was founded on so I can't fault that really.
As much as I love Transformers- to compare Bumblebee with the Iron Giant is an insult to the latter imho.
I thought it was pretty decent
Didn't give me the same feels as Bumblebee, but as its own thing. It's pretty gud
I absolutely loved Scourge
It's literally taken me almost a year to find your channel again, glad I'm here once more, got a whole backlog to go through 😅
So the spider-droid mooks that scourge has around are apparently this movie's version of Scourge's Sweeps.
The soundtrack had a motherfuckin tribe called quest on that hoe, it was awesome. Also it’s a reboot my friend :). Also also battletrap for sure did get named dropped one time in the film I don’t know who started this “no name” but scourge for sure did say “battle trap go do thing” or something
I'm pretty sure this is a reboot yeah. Like I think they mentioned it being part of a new storytelling universe.
I really like how Scourge was a nobody under the mask. I know there was probably more to it but in the context of a film aimed at kids, it read to me as your bullies are just people under the mask, they aren't anyone who's got any special powers or destiny, they're just someone like you who hurts people to feel better. And I really liked that. (Idk this is probably me trying to pull something deep out of the film. I did like the kick though, clever way to escape a death grip on Mirage's part)
Definitely had fun with the movie!!
And yea… I agree with the GIJoe thing… it’s gonna be almost impossible to incorporate without drowning the transformers.
Definitely the most fun I’ve had with transformers on the big screen! I’d say even more than bumblebee!
I disagree, but that's because I figure they're going to try and cram a human faction in there somewhere like they did with NEST/Sector 7, so why NOT use another Hasbro Brandname?
If they can use Transformers in a G I Joe movie, it could be good. They would have to take some notes from the MCU, and make Transformers like Iron Man 2 (post Avengers) where we know the Joes are there, but the transformers don't go to them for help. And Captain America in Winter Soldier doesn't go to Tony Stark for a Maguffin fix They both handled their own stories and worked together in a big cross-over.
It's got potential, if they can do it right
Why don't I see anyone comparing Noah's Exo Suit to the Delta Acceleration suits from first G.I.Joe live action movie (rise of Cobra) ... they look so similar. Am i the only one who sees it?
Ya, you pretty much summed up my feelings for ROTB. Could've had more scenes like Elena needing some reassurance to go with the team, Mirage being a heart of gold dickhead (to which I'm actually ok with his characterization, as we all know, most TFs don't really have a personality), Terrorcons being badasses (especially Battletrap who says nothing and fucks shit up), and actually focusing more on the TFs than the humans. Even when compared to BB, another good TF live action. Overall, a good TF movie. Can't wait for what the sequel brings.
And Christ, I can't believe GI Joe is getting tied to this reboot. I really wished they hadn't.
Well, I just got back from seeing this today, and I have three thoughts:
1) The Roche Limit is a thing, so regardless of Unicron eating the Earth, the planet would be severely damaged in all sorts of exciting ways and give everybody on it a terminally bad day.
2) Did anyone else notice that bit just before Unicron enters Earth orbit, and you can see Arcee in the background? She's aiming her guns and doing the waggly-shoulders-recoil-shooty-action... But no lasers come out.
3) Also that bit where Mirage is too short to peer into a first floor window from the alleyway floor, so stands on a parked car to see over the fire escape, then 30 seconds later he is tall enough to stand beside the car and look down on the guys to have a discussion.
4) - Bonus thought - It was really good to have a summer blockbuster where the main (human) guy isn't a white Jesus Saviour of the world trope.
5) - Bonus, bonus thought - We're an above-top-secret government organisation dedicated to blah, blah, blah... Here's a business card with our name on it.
Rise of the Beasts sure is awesome summer film that's belated tribute to BW anniversary from few years back. And I'll say, this folds in with BB as reboot to Cinematic TF series
And considering that before this; we get to know that after this there be two more which gives more reason Unicron to be pushed back or as Primal put it; trapped in corner of the galaxy so it's gonna take long time for him to make arrival to Earth.
Personalty; I would like prequel film before events of ROTB about Maximals time on Earth (which would allow us to see/know that were there more Maximals with Optimus Primal since Airrazor stated she was last one of her group) or set in they homeworld before Unicron's arrival.
But we'll wait and see what future holds for this.
If we look at Bumblebee as G1 (80's) Rise of the Beasts as Beast Wars (90's) then my guess is the next mainline film will be Armada themed, set in 2003 and heavily feature minicons, we shall see how wrong I am 😅
I’m so happy I loved this movie because I was so scared mate
At least this was a reboot and not a prequel to the Bay-verse
I would have preferred a Hasbro cinematic universe to branch out to MASK first... Humans attempting to copy Transformers technology but only managed to make vehicles to change into other vehicles. Keeps the conflict slightly grounded and easier to digest, since it's wow it's a car that can fly, a truck that can fire a fat missile... Then towards the end of that movie, do the GI Joe reveal. So that the GI Joe movie would be about the Joes fighting Cobra's proliferation of all those tech globally.
I loved that prime was just the perfect omount of violence
I liked that Scourge was just this tough guy that was just straight too tough for Prime to handle. Optimus just gets his butt handed to him, a few times even, and that just isn't something that had happened in the Bay movies
Also the Beast Wars stuff just casually dropping stuff in like "We're from the future" and not elaborating is great. It makes sense to us Beast Wars fans but I'm sure a good number of movie goers were confused.
I know it's not the film we got, but I can't help but harrumph and cross my arms at them bringing in Maximals but no Predacons (besides the Scorponoks). I know I shouldn't, but I dream of a good Live Action BeastMegs.
It really did Beast Wars dirty.
Best. Review/ramble/film talky descriptive thing. EVAR.
My only argumaent back regarding Wheeljack vs Arcee changes is that Arcee does look different from BB Movie, but that can be attributed to Cybertronian mode vs chosen earth mode, but she still kept her main design queues. Wheeljack finally got proper G1 treatment in BB, and then it was apparently decided that we needed to go back to the Bay-verse playbook of 'whatever we decide we want him to look like'.
It was just sad to the drastic change from one movie to the next, again. 🙂
Me and my Daughter saw it on Saturday (she's 6)
Missed a couple of parts due to her having to go to the bathroom but all in all pretty good movie
NEWS ALERT!!!
It's Coming out on DVD, BLU-RAY and streaming on Wednesday!
YES!
HOLY SHIT! That dig at Mustaine killed me! Great job!
I really wanted to know thew’s opinion on apelink and the beginning. Guess it was just so good it was not needed to mention it
Wasn't there a theory and/or implication that Scourge is Bayverse Optimus for some inane reason.
Scourges helmet model reused some of bayverse Optimus's helmet behind the mask