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Veteran Guard vs Genestealers Kill Team Warhammer 40k battle.
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2022
- Rebecca is back! This time she brings her Genestealers to battle Nick's Veteran Guard! Kill team Octarius. For the Army Painter prize.
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Thanks for the all the help and the patience with the intricacies of the rules! This series was all shot as once so were learning lots right now! Some mistakes pointed out for others following along.
-Climbing up a wall is a 2 full circles and you still need movement to be able to move on the wall. So first turn the veteran guardsmen should not have been able to climb up.
-Genestealers have a special rule that they can't be targeted if they are concealed and in cover even if the shooter in on a vantage point.
Thanks for the tips! We will use all the excellent advice from the viewers to make the next series even better!
The Bruiser's ability isn't to cancel a hit. It's to ignore some damage
And the Double Rending Claws get to keep another hit as a crit if they score a crit (which they did at 20:37)
Yeah us fans are here to support you guys! I imagine most of us are players. But others like ME are just fans of the game or hobby collectors who like to build and paint models. Either way just know we have your back and enjoy the content and entertainment!!🎃 As a newb to WarHammer 40k Kill Team seems a great way to dip your toe into the hobby
To add onto that shooting from a vantage point - even if it wasn't a genestealer, vantage only lets you treat a guy behind light cover or another operative as on engage, and that guy was behind a piece of heavy terrain. Great to see you all covering Kill Team, hope it brings even more players over!
Not exactly rules, but those vet guard could have taken a lot more special weapons! A flamer and grenade gunner would have been deadly!
Tau Nick: They must all survive!
Krieg Guardsmen: * sad gas mask noises *
Seems like Rebecca always asks before a game if “you’re attached to any particular models?” Its kind and devious at the same time 😂muhahahaha
6:40 when you rolled to see who goes first, you actually are rolling to get to choose who goes first. She could've chosen to go second and not straight first. Little rule help, love your videos
From what I've seen, I think it's more of a house rule with Play On where the winner of the roll has no choice but to go first
@@RhantheSlayer Maybe they're conflating the rule with the 40k 9e rule change where the highest roller has to go first?
no new rules state if you win dice rolls you must go first, too many people were relying and building their armies around going 2nd.
Tonite on POT Gear: Rebecca steals someones Jeans, Nick is disheartened by the lack of tanks he's not allowed to bring and Steve watches all like some sort of omnipresent being
Still cringe.
All this and more(k) on POT gear
@@tiberiumnp8030 You're cringe.
Great battle report as always! One thing to note, in the Set Up Operatives sequence, the Defeneder is also supposed to give their Operatives orders before the Attacker set up theirs :)
You are correct. Were learning lots here! :D
@@PlayOnTabletop super excited for more KT content! Keep up the fantastic work! ❤️
Love the video but here’s a little rules help, if all of Rebeca’s genestealers were in conceal Nick couldn’t have shot them while they were behind cover, they only get a free Defence die from cover if their behind cover and have the engage order. Just going to mention that I didn’t see the genestealers orders so they might have been in engage
Yes. It's also important to note that genestealers also ignore the vantage point rule that would normally ignore their conceal orders.
At 36:50, the Guardsman wouldn't have been able to shoot at the Genestealer (even without the Genestealer special rule) since it was behind heavy cover while Vantage Points can only ignore light cover.
So Rebecca has won twice because her opponent both times focused on killing her team and not on the objective? Sounds like she is a better grasp on the game than everyone else on the team.
The game is called kill team so the kill team tries to kill team.
Or, and bear with me, this only happens against Rebecca
I play "murder all the things" instead of objectives in literally every game of killteam or 40k. I almost never win but it's really really damn fun.@@friedaiceborn1663
Why did you spoil it for me
Well tbh, vet guard dice rolls were horrible this game, while She had very good and consistent hits while fighting melee.
Also why didn't he pick the extra 4 guardsman that in this mode would have been very useful?
He should have also taken the granade launcher-guy and the mine deploying operative instead of troopers in the starting roaster to have more effettive aoe dealers.
no krak/frag nades?
Basically he went full monkey in the team composition and got awful dice rolls.
He set himself up to losing this game from the start.
It's a treat whenever Tau Nick is playing!
Love the content noticed in turn 1 if the genesteelers are in cover and in concealment they cant be targeted to shoot even from vantage as per their ability
only for leader genestealers. I don't think the one attacked was a leader.
@@anishshirodkar484 no I’m pretty sure it’s an ability that comes on all genestealers, not just leader specific. It’s the Hidden Horror special rule they come with standard. Unless it was recently errata’d or FAQ’d and I’m just not aware of it.
@@ThermiteWarrior in Octarius(is that the name?), it’s leader only
@@anishshirodkar484 woah, no way. Thanks for that update, I had yet to see that anywhere. Super helpful heads up 😁 I hate to be a bother, but could you point me in the direction where I can find this update so I can officially update and add it into my rules?
Heads up, ap on that plasma gun doesn't affect the actual number on the armor, each ap is taking away a defense dice!!!! so for example a 2+ save vs ap3 doesn't get any saves because all 3 defense dice are gone
The genestealers have invulnerability save 5+ no? So APX should not matter, right?
Rebecca's close combat rolls would make Valkia the Bloody jealous. Great game!
So love that you are getting into my favourite wargame. I did notice some errors/issues and hope im not coming across as too preachy or "actually", just wanting to help out.
1st: Mission specific, why are the 4 objectives that should already be on the board missing? there are 2 objectives by each of the scrap piles in the corners of the board in fuel run.
2nd, are you intentionally leaving out the fun rock/paper/scissor sutff at the start for extra dash etc.?
3rd, as others have already noted, the time point when engage/conceal tokens are placed during deployment was not correctly done.
4th. When the coms specialist relays the order map-wide, that costs him an AP. It's not free like nic used it.
5th. 1st genestaler vs brusier combat. couple of things here. Feed and the crit should have killed the dude with 7 damage, unless you are double claws in whcih case rending would have given you an extra crit. either way, stealer should have killed the bruiser. Also re bruiser, their ability cancels damage he takes from a hit. Might have made a difference in a different combat scenario.
6th. genestealers get a free dash each activation. They should be far more mobile than they were here.
7th, the 2genestealers vs the bruiser fight. While it didn't matter, the genestealer would have been hitting on 2's rather than 3's due to outnumbering the bruiser.
8th when nic charged his leader in, he siad it hit on 4's. was it wounded? because at base, veteran guard sergeant hits on 3's in melee an shooting. Later in combat he did this error again and also had his leader on 9 wounds somehow when they have 8 total.
Loving this series! Thanks for keeping it going!
KT has been the best intro to tabletop games in general, and I'm into it!
Your guys' production quality it top notch! The music and editing make these videos fun to watch!
I'm about to play my first Kill Team with never having played 40K, so I appreciate all the details with the text and quick explanation of abilities, but also not getting bogged down with them.
I really like the idea of playing down the elite teams to make them more on level with fan favourites in the compendium very smart and a good way to encourage new players to join
Love this kill team series! It fits your teams amazing editing style! Please continue making these
GeneStealer Carnage. Amazing how you modeled the Genestealer in great animations
I know some (all?) Are the sculpts from the space hulk board game.
This is definitely my favorite series! Keep it up guys THIS IS AMAZING!
"when they Are all dead they willl still be together" XD
For the snipers first movement where he hopped up onto the vantage, he moved a little further than he should have.
You can only climb when you are within 1". For climbing it should have been 4 in up and at least 1in horizontally just to get on the vantage and you would have 1in to play around with on top.
You can combine them to complete a single movement in certain circumstances but in this case, it should have been a dash to get to the wall and movement to get up and on top of the wall
Glad someone else pointed it out. Easy reference, it costs a minimum of 5" to climb 3" terrain.
Hey Nick, don’t forget that your COM‘s operative can give an APL to another operative.
Rebecca when inserting that if they die they are still together is low-key savage
Rebecca has been such a treat and I'm quite impressed how much she's tearing it up as a newcomer to Kill Team. Does she have experience with other wargames to fall back on? If not then it's all the more impressive.
ALL HAIL THE FOUR-ARMED EMPRESS!!
Great fun video!
My one gripe though is; can you please give us a few seconds to read the Editor's notes. It flashes up then disappears before being able to read it.
Other than that, great content and production seems to be getting even better somehow!
This is a great series! Keep up the KT! Love the semi casual open play format and great friendly players
Such a fan of all this Kill Team! Would love you guys try an into the dark game! Either Way, great Stuff!
Loving the kill team battle reports 🎃
Great video! Sad to see the Vet Guard go down like that, but Rebecca sure knows how to manipulate those 'nids! 2 in a row! Fantastic work!
Absolutely loving this series guys!! 🤠👍
You shouldn't be shooting the genstealers in cover from above. They have a rule that negates vantage points so you can't see them.
You are correct. Rebecca missed that when she was building her army. Believe me. She knows now… :D
"Yeah he cried!" and now I'm crying 🤣
Fun match!!
Classy production!
This series is really entertaining. I highly enjoy it and I hope you guys keep making these. This has made me want to play killteam
Gotta respect a good Zerg rush strategy. Good game!
Months later I'm here to say what a game it woulda been with "Hidden Horror" being properly played for the Genestealers. IG woulda been sitting with their hands in their pockets for half the game.
Just an FYI, the plasma rifle AP would automatically remove 1 of the defense dice if not overcharged, and the sniper hits on 2+ with 3 mortal wounds for every crit
Not from genestealers, they use Invulnerable saves that are unaffected by AP.
@@peitsaveteli4904 oh didn´t knew that about these guys, thanks mate
I love The narrator banter! Love thé thé editing love the game. You guys are amazing. Few small errors which is completely normal, the only thing I would comment on is when Nic starts the game, with 3 circle movement unless a unit is within triangle of the 2 circles penalty climb he cannot finish on top, he would have been completely fine if he started game with 1 cop and goes into the breach, the dash would have closed the distance
Rebecca is obviously warp-touched, and it's fantastic.
Whether it be the 'who do you want to die first?' style comments or the Chaos blessed rolls. She is coming in hard for the wins.
Let’s go!!!! 🎉🎉🎉 I want to get into kill team and these videos help so much.
SHE DID IT AGAIN! Congrats!
Hahahah the coms spec, just going ape after seeing his leader die only to get torn to shreds aswell had me in stitches.
The band of brothers references 😂
Great vid! Love you guys playing kill team! Couple things, you said you aren’t using all the rules so I won’t do anything about scouting, but plasma has armor piercing, instead of making the save worse like in 40k, AP in kill team takes away dice. I know other people have said it but it’s VERY IMPORTANT!
I just remembered. Genestealers have a 5+ invuln. Carry on, but remember about AP in case you didn’t!
Love the trailer theme song. So good
It seems the "Hidden Horror" ability of Genestealers is always ignored in these playthroughs. Is that intentional, and if so, why?
*Hidden Horror:* While this operative has a Conceal order, it is always treated as having a Conceal order, regardless of any other rules (e.g. Vantage Point).
Haha fun stuff keep going guy's
Rebecca's smack talk is on point 🤣
rebecca fr using ork color theory on her tyranid models without even knowing it; BLUE DA LUKIEST, PURPLE DA SNEAKIEST
Love this can’t wait for a season 2 with some new factions and eventually some mix up games as always
So I don’t know the rules specifically on Nick keeping a success for melee combat based on that strategem. It might specify when he has to keep the die, but if it doesn’t, it seems he is shooting himself in the foot each time he goes into melee. The odds of rolling a 4+ are higher with 3 dice than 2, so every time he keeps a success before rolling, his odds of rolling a success go down.
He’s more likely to get at least two successes if he rolls, then converts a failure to a success, than removing a die as a success, then rolling the rest.
I want to get into this game, but I’m a tad broke, so for now any assumptions I make are purely from a spectator point of view and can lack knowledge on the specifics of the rules at play.
That ability specifically says "you can retain one as a successful normal hit without rolling it". Generally, abilities in Kill Team usually have pretty specific timing.
@@antongrigoryev6381 alright, like I said, my knowledge of game mechanics is second hand at best, so small details like that are not always clear to me.
when you deploy operatives you choose their order, conceal or engage, when they are deployed and for the first turning point that is the order they have. so a small mistake there
She rolls like the anti Steve. Those 6s were insane. 🤯
Someone's gotta roll the 6's Steve never gets.
Great series and great videos ... please keep them coming!
As someone who's just starting KT: keep these coming!
Nice do more kill team please! 🎉
Great game! But watching Guardsmen try to fight and die in combat makes me sad 🤣
"There is no greater honor to fight for the Emperor than to die for Him."
So nick shouldn't have been able to shoot Rebecca due to her being in cover and being concealed
100%. There was at least one instance of that. I think the rest she was out of the cover though.
In the first round, you must use the "rock-paper-scissors" method.. no initiative roll!
they do not use every rule, yet. Barricades arent included yet so the rock-paper-scissor makes no sense to use here.
In matched play you bet! We’re playing open play though.
The "rock-paper-scissors" method is only for Spec Ops Narrative play, but yes if thats what they are trying to play
@@zawert23 Its used in match play too.
Hi guys. Great battle rep so a few mistakes here and there with the rules and tactics but the one that I really have to point out was for the very first activation of the game.
The Vet guardsman could see the enemy operator on the very end of the line and could have used strafe pretty much on 70% of the whole enemy team as they were VERY nicely lined up for this 🤓
That probably would have changed the whole rest of the game as a lot of the enemy would be coming in already wounded
Plasma is at a minimum AP 1 reducing the number of defense dice by one. If you super charge it’s AP 2 and gains the Hot trait. So 1s do three mortal wounds to your unit that fired. Sorry if this was already stated. Love the series though.
Your are correct. However genestealers have an invuln save.
Just a rules note: when you deploy a model you select it's order then not after both sides have deployed their whole kill teams.
I was confused about that, because when I played the order was given when the unit activated.
@@benjaminloyd6056 every subsequent turning point you would be able to change the order when you activate the model so you are right about that.
Great game!!!
You guys make my favorite 40k content.
Nick is such a good dude!
Nick and Rebecca made a 40K game very entertaining. Still not as familiar with the 40K rules they made me still feel like i knew what was going on. Keep up the amazing videos.
Well, to be fair, this is Kill Team. Entirely different rules from 40k. 40k is the version they normally play with the giant armies. Kill Team is small groups of individuals like you see here. Glad you are enjoying this fun hobby. :)
Genestealers can't keep getting away with this XD
Great content as always!! Any plans on including the corsairs anytime soon? Lol
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21:21 for the bruiser ability, its not exactly like that that it works. What it actually does is negate the damage of one normal hit die. But She could've not attack with that die and instead parry one of yours instead so that there is nothing to negate. Rule tip.
Good note thank you!
What an absolutely close game. Really made kill them this nailbiter of a match.
Those were so pretty dice rolls at clutch times!
I WAAANT MORE KILLTEAM pls!!! Loved this serries
Good game! Well played! More Kill Team please!
That double slap of the hand lol
Great content, as expected. 😁 Have to ask: WHAT is the "table"? The gaming surface - is that some type of sound-insulation tile? I see the undercut on the camera-side and the ... extension?.. on the dice-tray side, and have no idea what it is. Baffled here - thought it was a ceiling tile but the features I mention scuttle that guess. A little help? Thanks.
It’s insulation foam. A great substance for terrain building.
Also, even if your in combat and defending, you can roll your full attacks, no need to be restricted abt defense dice
Keep the Kill Team coming guys. Love this game.
Ok going to finish my genestealers kill team now lol
Gotta Play KillTeam!
Best game GW makes and best representation of the lore!
If he named his Guardsmen from Band of Brothers.
I wonder which one has the honor of being named Speirs?
Loving the kill team matches
im starting on kill team an i find it a great game. Please bring more of this
I believe that you can only spend 1 command point during your phase….is that correct?
No. You can only use each Strategic or Tactical Ploy (other than Command re-roll) once; but you can use several different ones.
@@antongrigoryev6381 At the beginning didn’t they use more than one stratagem?
@@thehighestofclouds9890 Yes, but those were different ones.
Yeah Nice !😄
I hope Rebecca can use all these paints for a full 2000pt tyranid list!
8:49 when Nick shoots his plasma he should have supercharged and did you guys apply the AP1 to Rebecca’s save throws?
Genestealers have an invulnerable save so they always get 3 defence dice at 5+. Because of this overcharging is useless against them. So, no he shouldn’t.
Genestealers have invulnerable saves so they aren't affected by AP
Didn’t see that they had invun saves. Thanks for pointing it out 👌
@@Bawsy08 np
What rules did you use for the barrels? Was it on a critical hit it could explode?
So if it wasn’t saved what would happen?
YESS!! BEST GAME!! Fav matchup!!
Awesome as always y’all!
I don't play Killteam so I can't help with rules, but it's good to ask for it. Free engagement.
Tell Me Killin Genestealers Isn't The Poiht, Without Telling Me Killin Genestealers Isn't The Point;
He- I've kill'd 5 Genestealers!
She- I've lost more & Won!
Blaster was here... & has a suspicious feeling that killin 'Stealers isn't the point!
Amazing! Love Kill Team! Keep up the KT! 🧡🖤 But Octarius and compendium teams are a little bit last season. There are lots of new bespoke teams with super cool rules and new types of terrain. Would you consider playing with new the space hulk Gallowdark terrain? That would be awesome 😉
we would more than consider it. For sure. We started building already. It just take us so long to make this stuff.
Yesss! Thats awesome news
Fun game as always. Good thing to note is that models below half wounds are considered injured and their stats and mv are worsened I played like 7 games before I found that out lol.
Did you not read the rules?
@@creon3866 I did the read kill team rules multiple times though I'll say that book is not too entirely clear sometimes. Plus me and my friends are new to 40k in general so was learning kill team+40k plus like 4 codex's so some rules were flying over my head.
So far the Genestealers look like they're getting slaughtered early game, then they get in charge range and the tables turn.
Personally I prefer boards that are set up to favor a defender due to the way deployment works but that's just me. Even boards give a lot to attacker.
Can anyone divulge how the kill team board itself was created for this. Not the terrain but the board itself. I would love to make one for myself!
Hey guys, just a little rules pick up that I spotted, the plasma gun is AP1 (AP2 when overcharged) which is the number of dice taken away from the defence dice, so there were a few times when only 1or 2 defence dice should have been rolled after being shot by the plasma rather than the full three. Love the content guys, hope this rule pick up is helpful 🤟
Don’t genestealers have an invuln save so it negates the ap?
@@PlayOnTabletop Yes they do
Ah my apologies, I was unaware of the invun save, just goes to show I need a bit more practice playing killteam myself 😂
Although if I remember correctly, the Sniper shouldn't have been able to activate after the strafing run, I think it's used like an equipment piece attached to a model and used during it's activation
@@zacharystockwell516 The ability for the ancillary support is worded as such that you basically activate the strafing run as another model so
I’m pretty sure Rebecca’s dice just had 4s 5s and 6s on them the way she was rolling.
That's a great battle report 👍. Where can I get those dice from?