Burghley Horse trials 2024 - Best falls and refusals

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @lucyhoneychurch5679
    @lucyhoneychurch5679 2 месяца назад +120

    There are far too many extreme angles, with wide corners with a limited approach. These are exceptional horses, keen and wanting to gallop on. Cross country shouldn't be set up to catch them out, it's not fair on honest horses doing their best. And it's dangerous. Time for a rethink with cross country course design.

    • @bossmare1480
      @bossmare1480 2 месяца назад +14

      I agree 100%. Also in my opinion, since they took out the roads and tracks, it seems like the horses aren't as fit.

    • @sammisoccer7
      @sammisoccer7 2 месяца назад +13

      It’s become more of a maneuverability and coordination test than a long distance fitness test. Leave the fancy footwork and crazy combinations for showjumping…..

    • @brendahole9575
      @brendahole9575 2 месяца назад +7

      Aren’t the combinations & tricky lines how they increase the difficulty though? As I understand, back in the day when lots of horses were jumping the straighter lines without a problem they couldn’t go higher+wider to increase the difficulty (for safety reasons) so they went twistier? Could be wrong!

    • @myhappygecko2895
      @myhappygecko2895 2 месяца назад +6

      It’s just awful. Showing it this way makes it more clear.

    • @sianbennett-rodgers
      @sianbennett-rodgers 2 месяца назад +6

      @@myhappygecko2895Except you’re not seeing the horses who did all those difficult lines with ease. Any horse can not read a fence, not land into water well etc etc. this sport is the safest it has ever been

  • @sherinnovak729
    @sherinnovak729 2 месяца назад +33

    With a course like this, placings are really a matter of dumb luck. The riders can do their best and the horses are trying their hardest, but the course is monstrous; terrible angles, tiny little skinnies, no room to turn a horse, and no where to let up for a minute or two. With the heights of the fences and the length of the course, this is an event that unfairly tests horses and riders. At least the riders have a choice - the horses don’t.

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад

      "Placings are really a matter of dumb luck" ... or that the horses don't have a choice. Which statement is stupider, I can't say. 🤷‍♂

    • @carolcawley9335
      @carolcawley9335 2 месяца назад +1

      The angles are too tight and the fences are too big.

  • @MotherMuckerWISC
    @MotherMuckerWISC 2 месяца назад +11

    Thank you for putting this together. So often falls are swept under the rug and never shown. This is so unfair to the horses. If we care about them AT ALL, the course should be more about endurance and less about dangerous gymnastic questions.

  • @eileenlynetteadams9182
    @eileenlynetteadams9182 2 месяца назад +36

    Was disappointed with some of the jumps being sooo close together. The angles of the triangular jumps so dangerous for horse and riders catching their legs a glancing blow on the points at the triangles. They need to space them further apart. Why try to hurt a horse and rider is beyond me. Why ruin a good horse's confidence?

  • @Margie-to5ir
    @Margie-to5ir 2 месяца назад +22

    As an old time eventer, I marvel at how different the obstacles are these days. At this level it isn't fair for anyone to second guess these riders. Having said that, I wish that this compilation was put up using a song that didn't have so much profanity in it. I think it goes against the amazingness of this level of competition.

    • @jacquelynburke157
      @jacquelynburke157 2 месяца назад +5

      More competitors should refuse to ride these courses! Where. Is the humane society?

    • @bonnierose885
      @bonnierose885 2 месяца назад +2

      There was some real filth in there, and I am not a prude!

  • @wc3624
    @wc3624 2 месяца назад +15

    The title "Best falls and refusals" is a bit sick. How can you love horses and watch them get hurt. 😢

    • @claudetteniel344
      @claudetteniel344 16 дней назад

      Un cheval peut se blaisser Tout seul dans un champ ou aux box
      Il n'a pas besoin de travailler pour ça

  • @nadiafoster4478
    @nadiafoster4478 2 месяца назад +16

    The collapsible fences are an extremely good idea to stop rotational falls for the horse and rider, pity they haven’t been able to come up other new safety features for other fences

  • @bonnierose885
    @bonnierose885 2 месяца назад +15

    What in the world was that disgusting music?? I agree with lucy (below) there are too many "trap" jumps. It should be based on endurance, jumping ability, and timing. All the corner fences are absurd.

  • @JayHolmes-hv9hs
    @JayHolmes-hv9hs 2 месяца назад +8

    As hard as this course was and there was definitely some hard combinations. I think all in all the course was kinder and more horses completed than usual. A usual sticking point alot of the years is normally in the leaf pit where this year the b element was moved further back. I think this year the major question was the rolex corners, specially the b element. These are the best of the best riders and this is the best of the best course. If everyone made it round we wouldnt have a competition and it would turn into a dressage competition. I think the course builders did a brilliant job to ask questions of the best riders and it was in different ways to usual.

  • @gwenlillianlondon3772
    @gwenlillianlondon3772 2 месяца назад +8

    What is the point of making things so hard for the horse that they get injuries? Poor horses.

    • @jacquelynburke157
      @jacquelynburke157 2 месяца назад +1

      @@gwenlillianlondon3772 It seems that the courses are being designed for the benefit of the audience...
      Terriblely designed jumps to produce spectacular wrecks keep the audience entertained....at the costbof the horses and riders. THAT is not what eventing was SUPPOSED to be about. Why would riders risk their expensive, beloved horses for a piece of ribbon!!

  • @angiedyer1511
    @angiedyer1511 2 месяца назад +18

    If I were a horse, I’d refuse these jumps too. This should be fun and a learning process. No jumps set up to fail. Hugs to these honest horses !

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад +2

      And so you would do something else and not be an Event horse. But agreed on the Hugs to these wonderful, and wonderfully cared for, great horses.

    • @MrsCoolKat
      @MrsCoolKat 2 месяца назад

      You truly are clueless, do you think these horses can do these kind of things any day? They’re trained for years and years properly incorrectly, and they do what they love. If they didn’t love what they were doing, they would not be jumping those jumps. 🤡

  • @rohansrider
    @rohansrider 2 месяца назад +17

    Burghley is much more challenging than the Versailles course, which in my opinion was far too easy for a the Olympics. The Olympic; Three Day event is far softer now not only with the short format but the actual courses, where were the drops at Paris? Many of those International riders could not have coped with the Trout Hatchery.

    • @---td5fg
      @---td5fg 2 месяца назад +15

      The Olympics was set at a 4 star course so a wider range of horses could compete against each other as well as minimize risk.
      Burghley is a 5 star course and is one of the hardest courses in Britain. It makes sense that this is harder.

    • @sherinnovak729
      @sherinnovak729 2 месяца назад +7

      Yeah, they didn’t want to have a bunch of dead horses and riders at the Olympics.

    • @myhappygecko2895
      @myhappygecko2895 2 месяца назад

      Because people die in those competitions when they are too hard. We don’t need people dying at the Olympics they will ban the sport from outrage.

    • @Lpks
      @Lpks 2 месяца назад +1

      Bien dit; le classement relève de cette logique mais un maximum de nations et leurs cavaliers peuvent concourir ce qui est rare.

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад +1

      The Olympics was set out at 3* early then 4* after fence 6 .... You can't compare any Olympic x country course to a 5* ...

  • @myhappygecko2895
    @myhappygecko2895 2 месяца назад +5

    Around 8:10 that horse saved his butt by not trying the ditch and the he makes him go so slow to it. That horse took care of him, maybe not what he wanted but that’s a wonderful horse. Trying to make him take it slow was not a good plan. Horse didn’t even get a pat. All those horses deserve a pat. They are asking them to do very stupid things let’s be honest.

  • @jacquelynburke157
    @jacquelynburke157 19 дней назад

    Insanely dangerous challenges! The course designers should be required to RIDE THE COURSE THEMSELVES before the competition.

  • @victoriachatham4801
    @victoriachatham4801 2 месяца назад +4

    Best falls? How can any fall be classified as best? Too much chance of injuries to horse and rider.

  • @violetfisher245
    @violetfisher245 2 месяца назад +2

    I know i was there was some etreme jumps but i kept on missing the drama ❤❤ but it was amazing great to watch ❤❤ and seeing pippa funnell’s ride and ross canter’s ride ❤❤❤❤

  • @oliviaowens8552
    @oliviaowens8552 2 месяца назад +5

    This course is insane . :( poor horses

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад

      Yeah so was your comment 🫠🫠 poor Oliviaowens

  • @pjcarson3183
    @pjcarson3183 2 месяца назад +6

    Why are trainers and owners putting up with this.. course designers creating brutal courses for these horses . Wow killing an industry?

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад +1

      These are the top event horses in the world at one of the very most challenging courses in the world, they love it, and receive the best care of any animals in the world. Sorry you seem so distant from that reality.

    • @pjcarson3183
      @pjcarson3183 2 месяца назад +2

      These are world class horses and when so many can’t make the round it’s obvious the course isn’t right ..

  • @cynthianauman1358
    @cynthianauman1358 2 месяца назад

    PTL all our riders and horses gave it thier best and new when to say enough is enough this course was very ruff ❤

  • @annecahling7251
    @annecahling7251 2 месяца назад +4

    I hate seeing horses crash into the solid log on the other side of the Leap, it must be so painful. And after that there's nowhere to go but fall back down into the ditch and sit down on their hocks. Could they really not just make that second part a hedge only?

    • @faithandrobinx
      @faithandrobinx 2 месяца назад +1

      None of the jumps are completely solid, they’re all collapsible when hit with the force of a full horse or rider❤

    • @annecahling7251
      @annecahling7251 2 месяца назад

      @@faithandrobinx not all of them though? And this one certainly can't be or the pin would have broken and the log would have dropped when the horse got stuck on it.

    • @faithandrobinx
      @faithandrobinx 2 месяца назад

      @@annecahling7251 Not sure what one you mean. My dad’s part of the course design team at burghley and badminton. I can assure you it is risky, but safe.

    • @Moonatjejen
      @Moonatjejen 2 месяца назад +1

      @@faithandrobinxcould you ask him about the thinking on the safety of the Cottesmore Leap? Not being arsey, genuine question. The videos of horses not making it all the way across and landing on the jump are pretty horrific.

    • @faithandrobinx
      @faithandrobinx 2 месяца назад

      @@Moonatjejen of course no problem! Turns out, I was slightly in the wrong. It’s not completely collapsible, but made of a different type of wood than most other jumps, which mean is less hard when hit. ☺️

  • @BridMhor
    @BridMhor 2 месяца назад +1

    That first jump hurt the horse. It could’ve had broken ribs after that 😡.

  • @heldysgirls
    @heldysgirls 2 месяца назад +3

    they have slack on their reins which means the horse will refuse bc it doesn't have connection with the rider

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад +1

      No it doesn't.... A light contact is a must when riding x country as no rider wants to restrict their horse if they miss it put in an extra stride... Seat and legs are a must as is a forward rythm..

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад

      And hands are meant as a guide...

    • @heldysgirls
      @heldysgirls Месяц назад +1

      @@Phillip-p1e yes but you still need to have contact! or they might trip and fall as you have seen

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад

      @@heldysgirls the ones that tripped / fell refused did so because of mostly not being in a good enough rhythm and some put in or took out a stride ... Watch Ros Canter and Harry Meade that's how it should be done

  • @lyndakling901
    @lyndakling901 2 месяца назад +3

    I’d prefer NOT to dwell on falls and mistakes entirely….

  • @MarcieLopez-o9e
    @MarcieLopez-o9e 2 месяца назад

    Run Horse Run

  • @loredelore7286
    @loredelore7286 2 месяца назад +9

    Absolutely disgusting. What has happened to eventing. Dangerous fences making no sense. Five star event with one star course building.

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад +4

      What has happened to Eventing is that it has been made safer for the horses. You are watching a reel of accidents, not the majority of horses making clean efforts.

    • @loredelore7286
      @loredelore7286 2 месяца назад +3

      @@JohnAllenRoyce it was made safe by collapsible fences years ago, but in doing so turned it into "showjumping" across country,combined training essentially. Some of the fences at Burghley this year were just plain stupid regardless of the star rating and horses that were perfectly capable lost their confidence early on. Unessessary.

  • @VK-qe7if
    @VK-qe7if Месяц назад

    Makes me wonder how much more the course designers think they can ask of horse and rider, cause its getting totally ridiculous. Too many angles, and corners, change of direction etc which in turn horses find very tiring especially when the ground is so wet, and the going Too heavy. 🤦‍♀️

  • @daisie2447
    @daisie2447 2 месяца назад +1

    Emily king handled that beautifuly

  • @JohnAllenRoyce
    @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад +1

    Great competition, thrilling to see these amazing horses doing what they love!

  • @gillianlillis1984
    @gillianlillis1984 2 месяца назад +2

    That double of corners are just awful

  • @Plantagenet_horse
    @Plantagenet_horse 2 месяца назад

    Jonelle Price really seems to have trouble staying in the saddle. It was the same in Paris 2024. 😅😅

    • @Monet_eq
      @Monet_eq 2 месяца назад

      Yes, she competed for my country’s team devastated about it

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад

      And the husband has just won Blenheim 4*L ...

  • @Sassy-ponies
    @Sassy-ponies 2 месяца назад +2

    I went to watch yesterday!!!!!

  • @CarolStJohn-ev9ry
    @CarolStJohn-ev9ry 2 месяца назад +6

    Couldn't watch all of it. That course was dangerous with no thought for the horse or rider. It's like the designer was gleefully plotting carnage.

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад +3

      Carol, this is a reel of accidents. That's why you think it's so dangerous. Because it is about the failed efforts, not the entire competition.

  • @claudetteniel344
    @claudetteniel344 16 дней назад

    A tout qu à il sont a l ecoute de leurs montures

  • @Atom-56
    @Atom-56 2 месяца назад +7

    Did anyone manage to finish the cross country……..
    What a horrid course.

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад

      Yes plenty and many inside the time allowed....

  • @wendybates8439
    @wendybates8439 2 месяца назад +1

    Did anyone actually get round it in one piece.

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад +5

      Yeah, most of them. This is a compilation of accidents, not the competition itself.

  • @Sassy-ponies
    @Sassy-ponies 2 месяца назад +4

    4:21 that horse is a saint to keep going!

  • @silvanaduchaine3510
    @silvanaduchaine3510 2 месяца назад

    Poor horses😢

  • @MarcieLopez-o9e
    @MarcieLopez-o9e 2 месяца назад +1

    CALL PETA

  • @linda-x9t
    @linda-x9t 2 месяца назад

    Still safer than the Grand National 😂😂😂

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад

      And safer than some UK city streets

  • @justkeepdigging1956
    @justkeepdigging1956 2 месяца назад

    Weirdest song choice ever... I wasn't expecting explicit lyrics on a song for a Horse Trials vid.

  • @NoémiTolnai
    @NoémiTolnai Месяц назад

    This is why I doesnt really support eventing/cross country

  • @gerryfrancis3350
    @gerryfrancis3350 2 месяца назад

    I am sure the course designer here - and the one before him - gets off on constructing the most ball-breaking jumps. Makes the day - and the following depleted jumping round - rather dull for spectators. Still, it is fun to watch riders go for a little dip in the pond.

    • @JohnAllenRoyce
      @JohnAllenRoyce 2 месяца назад

      Oh are you sure? Also, what a ghoul you are to gloat on accidents.

    • @Phillip-p1e
      @Phillip-p1e Месяц назад

      No course designer/ builder would ever be allowed to construct a course that would be detrimental to Horse and rider... 3 day eventing Xcountry is the only sport where an ambulance follows behind as accidents do happen... All horses today were reported to be ok as were the riders .... Come to Cornwall Bude take a dip in sewage infested waters ...

  • @eileenlynetteadams9182
    @eileenlynetteadams9182 2 месяца назад +4

    The second to last song you chose really was disappoining. I was enjoying your compilation and your videography up to that point. Not Family Friendly! What a shame.

    • @gerryfrancis3350
      @gerryfrancis3350 2 месяца назад

      Was that the homey song?

    • @eileenlynetteadams9182
      @eileenlynetteadams9182 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@gerryfrancis3350I just looked it up and it was the 'chasing' song. The last song I think.

  • @argalant
    @argalant Месяц назад

    Cross it s gone too far with tricky fences just make horses fail. Some builds are very wrong, with fences built in a way that horses use to slow themselves down by brushing their hindlegs on it instead they hear everything falling and loosing concentration for next jump of combination. It looks like a show jumping course with fences built to ruin horses confidence. Really bad and unfair. The cross has been denaturalized, has become real crap. Should be more challenging the time and courses a bit more fluent enhanching natural fences and combinations. True you need to be good but too much is left to luck as well for the best ones. Cross building doesn t mean building traps!