Before this episode was filmed, Sean went to Jimmy and asked if he was genuinely ok. He was being a proper friend to him. Once he got permission from Jimmy he shredded him! But he was genuinely concerned about him
This was the best and quickest way to face the nation apologise and move on, being roasted by Shaun was ridicule enough and the nation forgave him within a week....Well done Jimmy
@@RK-zf1jm I couldn’t find any account of him actually having to pay restitution. Since it was “legal”, it seems he was just shamed for it publicly. I did find another article talking about having to pay after a tax incentive he contributed to was deemed a fraud in 2015, 3 years later. Some building project in a low income area that was never used for intended data center. I read that as more of an investment scheme targeting the rich than him actively setting up a building to use as a tax shelter. Got presented with what amounts to a charitable investment and ended up ripped off and getting a big tax penalty.
The best part that David Cameron and his family were later found to do exactly the same thing. Also the PM never called out any other large corporations for not paying billions in tax, just some random guy for not paying a million.
Yeah of course how is it a secret from people that every member of the torries is usually a millionaire over half the cabinet own vasts amounts of property that rent both privtely and worse pubically thats right over 30 percent of "council" property is rented from MPS before Rishi and Javid there was osborn stephen osborn family has hundreds of millions of pounds in bank as well as having an annual income of 16 million pounds from his investments. So when he said were all in it together bullshit just bullshit. The worst thing is its not even hard to find out how dodgy our MPs are its just nobody gives enough of fuck to look. Which is why you dont get to say shit when they get caught lying Boris johnson is a lying sack of shit hes been proven to be a liar multiple times his father keeps letting slip what torries actually think of the voters when his dad got caught saying hes surprised any of the voters can read. You think Boris is any different hes just a little bit better at bullshit than the old man. (Also look up Borris Johnsons full name that is a french royal name investigate further you ll find his family is 5th in line to the thrown of England and this is a man who tried to sell himself of being a man of the people)
That’s the truth there. I’ve looked into accountants to help with taxes and I don’t even pull $35,000 a year. One that really gets my goat are the companies that negotiate with the IRS after you are found guilty and they work your fines and penalties down. If the government can forget $20,000 in fines and penalties from one case, why they coming after my $5,500 so hard every year?
They would if they had millions in income, a tax bill of pennies, and any sort of conscience. Equating "right mind" with "unchecked selfishness" is... probably not ideal?
@@jlondon1441 tbf our tax system is way less confusing than the US. The only people that need accountants are self employed people, businesses and millionaires. Everyone else your tax comes straight out of your wages and in May you get a cheque if they decide you paid too much. No forms or paperwork or tax returns. Tax returns for self employed are pretty simple too. Our system is set up to make it harder for people to evade and avoid tax. It’s usually pretty obvious if someone is avoiding tax so most of them get caught.
Cameron was two-faced, he profited from his fathers offshore tax evasion... After three days of stalling and four partial statements issued by Downing Street he confessed that he owned shares in the tax haven fund, which he sold for £31,500 just before becoming prime minister in 2010.
I'm not sure Jimmy gives too much of a fig what the tabloids think; not a lot of audience overlap, I wouldn't imagine. I think he was, rightfully, a bit ashamed. It's pretty shitty to be wealthy and use that power to get your tax bill way below that of people with far less disposable income than yourself.
I don't really think that would be the case, the tabloids are a bit afraid of people who have a voice and a platform to strike back, add to that he's a savage professional comedian, he could easily call them out on their bullshit in 5 seconds flat and make them look pretty stupid in a public forum.
His colleagues were really pretty angry at him but the fact he agreed to face the music so publicly when others on the list hid away till it blew over was the best thing he could've done. The nation respected him for it and he did pay it all back even though in reality he didn't have to. He did feel bad about it and as stated it wasn't illegal just very much frowned upon by regular working folk. He absolutely did the right thing by owning his mistake and accepting the consequences. He wasn't irritated during this he was embarrassed and rightly so and people were defending him and as he rightly said he had no defence at all and deserved what came to him and he knee it.
Other entertainers have had their careers destroyed forever for not saying anything after being caught, Jimmy took it on the chin, and he's still here at the top of his trade.
Just stopped by to point out that David Cameron has benefited from offshore tax avoidance schemes (not to mention also avoiding inheritance tax and the whole Greensil lobbying scandal recently). Hypocritical arse.
On a similar level, a number of years back a panel host called Angus Deaton hosted the show a few days after a newspaper published a story about him being caught doing cocaine in a hotel with a prostitute. Even knowing that he was going to be royally roasted, he turned up and took it.
I saw something on that. The producers where going to pull him from the show, but then thought it would be a bit 2 faced, seeing as the number of people they roast on the show every week. But fair play to him, he went on and took it.
Angus Deaton was eventually pulled from the show as another allegation arose some time after. The situation as i believe was inaccurate in some form but instead of keeping quiet or be apologetic in some form, tried to make a joke about the situation he was in which did not sit well with the collegues and producers, nor did the audience find it funny
@@kodiak1984 I think it was over for him when he tried to joke about Nigel Hamilton being in scandals and his wife basically pulled an Uno reverse card on him.
Absolutley killer episode I was going to recommend, watched it live when I was 12, had to go digging for it later when I remembered what gold I had witnessed. Deayton opened with: "Good evening and welcome to HIGNFY, where this week's loser is presenting it." -- ruclips.net/video/7L8ij02Df2w/видео.html
The reason the government went for him over this was Jimmie made a near the knuckle joke about wounded servicemen. The Defence Secretary re-acted with outrage and tried to make political capital out of it. It blew up in his face when it turned out Jimmie had got the joke from a wounded service on one of several visits to their hospital and the Minster had not visited even once.
Nah, the only reason he made any headway was because he was a distraction. His tax avoidance wasn't even a pittance, and his importance was absolutely nil. He was just something to make the proles latch their jaws unto and not thing of anything of import
If you genuinely apologise for something people will usually accept that and let you move on. We all make mistakes and commit "offences". Denial and bullshit is a definite no-no.....
Sean Lock’s joke *Through the Loophole* is a riff on a very popular 90s gameshow called *Through the Keyhole* where contestants would guess which famous person lived in a house based on video of the interior. It was presented by Lloyd Grossman who catchphrase was “And who lives in a house like this?”
@@MrGrifft Want to avoid putting it over india as well. China or North Korea is a bad idea, unless you want your accounts hacked. Don't put it on Russia unless you have a supply of iodine. Lets put it on top of Antarctica, no one lives there so only some one who is insane could possibly object.
@@paulmidsussex3409: Eh... Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway and *Argentina* are claimants of parts of Antarctica. You could see how the latter could get their knickers in a twist. 😂
Another great video. You asked in a previous video 'who is that guy', a man with bright blonde hair and big teeth, that was Rob Beckett. Very funny man, best watched when Tom Allen is on the show at the same time. I'd like to tell you why but don't want to spoil it for you 🤣🤣🤣
He did nothing illegal, just morally dodgy. He had his money in a scheme that avoided tax rather than evaded tax. Once he realised it was seen as dodgy he left the scheme.
Erm, not true. He left when he got caught. If he'd done it unprompted, he'd be far less embarrassed about it. He did wrong, was nicked, and came clean about it. People who complain about "cancel culture" should be forced to watch this. Sincere apologies; not that hard.
@@michaelccozens Allegations made in bad faith should never be rewarded with sincere apologies. People who complain about cancel culture object to the often disingenuous and vengeful nature of the complaints. To using the dubious court of public opinion to settle decades old offenses. To tasteless mud slinging and airing dirty laundry in public. Verdict is out in the Amber Heard defamation trial btw, enjoy!
David Cameron personally benefited from offshore tax havens, but more importantly his political party (the Tory Party) protect the interests of others who also benefit from the same tax havens. So for him to point the finger at Jimmy was very much a case of the pot calling the kettle a tax dodger.
Have you watched QI? A lot of comedic smart banter on there as well, incl. Sean Lock among many, many others! Might even get some inspiration from watching? and Taskmaster! hilarious show! hello from Denmark 🌸 🌱
The tax scheme was something like this: Jimmy needed to resign from his current contract, join a Jersey company on an identical but Jersey based contract and take a small (tax free) salary. The rest of the normal pay due under the old contract was paid as a loan which the Jersey company never got back so deducted as an expense (no tax on their income). The loan to Jimmy was interest free so they assume he would have paid around 4% interest and call that amount taxable, so the tax works out at around 1% of the total. The problem clearly being they are twisting facts to make it a loan not a salary.
Guys, may I ask a quick question? There's something I wonder about (particularly American) Reactors, is how you have changed your viewing habits since you have started this channel? Do you still watch American Network Shows with the same enthusiasm? What are the American equivalent of '8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown' and 'Mock the Week' like by comparison or do you not have the same show over there? Thanks. Love the videos, good to see you learn more about a European country!
As a Canadian exposed greatly to both American and British pop culture I can confidently say there is nothing like 8 Out Of 10 Cats ( or even "does Countdown") in the US. In fact, there is nothing like British panel shows in general. Game shows with contestants winning prizes are on US television but you would not see a show where celebrities have teams that compete just for the sake of entertainment there. Maybe as a segment of a late night show like on Jimmy Fallon, but not a series.
@@clarissathompson Yes, I've seen some of those segments on the chat shows : sorry to say, they leave me rather cold. I know that US TV was notorious for its censorship in the past, but I was wondering if the success of Netflix, HBO etc had made the networks relax their policy of extreme censorship a little, 'loosen up' perhaps a bit more...?!
An important point that people outside the UK and Ireland seem to miss is that British does not mean English. If someone is Scottish, English, Welsh, or I believe Northern Irish too, then they are British.
Actually ... and this will cause any Northern Ireland Unionist to have a frothing convulsion ... since the UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland is NOT part of Great Britain (which is actually a geographical term for the entire island which holds the countries of England, Scotland and Wales). It (N.I.) IS part of the political entity that is the United Kingdom - and since there is no exactly descriptive specific term for a citizen of the UK (Unitish / Kingan anyone?) by convention, all citizens of that polity are referred to as British even though the Northern Irish do NOT actually live in Great Britain. Some Scots (or Scottish but NEVER scotch - that's a drink!) have a similar issue, in that Scotland is not part of Britain (which comprises of England & Wales) and hence those Scottish of a more Independent frame of mind do not like to be referred to as British, although as part of GREAT Britain, the term does have a little more precision for them than it does for the Northern Irish.
Note: by voluntarily given the entire income of the crown estates over to the treasury in exchange for an annual stipend and relief from responsibility to fund the civil government the queen pays an effective 90% (approximate) tax rate.
@@fabiotabaton314 To be fair, the crown estates actually buy land and build shopping parks and stuff, I used to work at one that was owned by the crown. So its not just old mansions etc, there is investment being done
2:18 Shepherd's Bush is a West London district. The "Mexico City commuter" joke was that it would be a terrible commute for Jimmy to have to cross the Atlantic to get to work. The deliberate misunderstanding was that the study was referring to all commuters, and not just the ones in the city mentioned. Chris O'Donnell was Robin to Val Kilmer's Batman, IIRC, but I could totally see him pulling-off that dance, preferably in costume. 9:22 For those who may not know, Harold Shipman is a famous, prolific, and quite recent serial killer in Britain. He was a doctor, and one of those "Angel of Death" types, though not the Kevorkian kind that actually asked people if they wanted to die or not. IIRC, he was caught when he fudged a death certificate in an attempt to support a phony will that left all of his patient's money (around a million US) to himself. Real class act. 14:33 As with many expressions and slang terms, there's lots of "folk" (ie. wrong, mythical; as in "folklore") etymologies for "quid", including that it's related to "quid pro quo" ("this for that"), or is the remnant of a phrase altered by accents, etc. Merriam-Webster says the origin is unknown, but it notes that the earliest recorded use of the word in the sense discussed is in 1688. 20:59 Eh, this is sorta true, but also something of a right-wing lie to justify never attempting to increase taxes on anyone, particularly the wealthy and corporations (the "starve the beast" strategy, in which you let gov die on the vine so the power of the rich goes unchecked). What it "forgets" to account for is factors that restrain the ability to raise prices without consequence, including market competition, the effect of price on demand, etc. The reality of the situation is that, in most cases, while some of the increase may be passed to consumers, some will also come from the corporation's profits, which may otherwise have gone to executive salaries and dividends for shareholders (who are, in large proportion, the richest of the rich).
Before the show Sean would’ve asked jimmy what he wanted him to do - how he wanted him to handle it (like to lay off or to make a quick reference and move on). Clearly jimmy just told him to have at it and it worked because the whole country felt like he got a good kicking and that was enough.
I'm not sure how true that is. Comedians tend to be pretty protective of their creative freedom. I would hope Jimmy would have the consistency not to ask for special protection from the (rightfully) examining eye of comedy, especially as his job is doling out same.
@@michaelccozens They're also a close group and do many of their comedy or TV shows together, Obviously they would look out for each other unless they already don't like each other.
Watching Americans watch this is legit adorable... I'm Australian so we're like half British and even I don't get some of the jokes or expressions. To you guys it must be like a whole other language...!
The joke around 2:20 that you didn't get; Mexico City is the worst city in the world to be a commuter, especially for Jimmy, because he works in Shephard's Bush.. (London).. Quite a commute..? :)
In the UK the quiz shows for the ordinary "man in the street" contestants are on afternoon "day time" TV for mostly housewives and college students. The celebrity panel shows are big on BBC Radio and evening TV. Countdown is actually a daytime game show that has been going since 1983.
Love this guy Jimmy Carr he always has me in stitches and may I also add may Sean Locke rest in peace also I would like to say the Queen actually pays tax. And technically jersey is still part of the British isles
I used to work for a top ten accountancy firm in London that was originally set up to target media clients, so actors popstars, sports stars. I remember, as a junior being in meetings with these famous financial illiterates discussing LEGAL tax avoidance investments where it was presented to them as you'd be daft not to do this. Jimmy Carr invested in a legal investment that could save him tax. He has been unfairly abused for this. Our clients included Harry Potter actors, boy band members, indie bands (not Oasis, the other one). They were not intentionally avoiding tax they were just doing as they were advised.
Fifty years ago, upon leaving school I joined the ranks of the Inland Revenue. Literally the first thing I was taught, by a long-serving Tax Officer (Higher Grade) was "You are not here to make people pay more taxes; as much as anything you are here to make sure that nobody pays more taxes than the law demands. There are two separate issues, tax avoidance which is perfectly legal, and tax evasion which is not legal, and which we pursue" - I remember that little speech distinctly after all this time, despite only staying with HMIT about three years...it struck me as the epitome of what a civil servant ought to be... I also recall swearing a solemn oath never to publicly disclose or discuss anything of any nature regarding anything I learned about anybody's affairs during the course of my duties. Alas for so much that has changed in the intervening period, including dishonourable suits who seem to break the Official Secrets Act willy-nilly, even when not under the protection of parliamentary privilege.
@@cogidubnus1953 Tax affairs which are private and confidential become public the moment a court case is brought against an individual or company. The only court held in camera is the Family Court or when a Judge rules that it is in the public interest that it is held in private if involving national security issues. Justice has to be seen to be done, even if a complete ass at times.
@@tonys1636 The news was disclosed when HMRC were apparently (Guardian 19th June 2012) still considering taking persons to court over the K2 avoidance scheme...somebody had already at that time released Jimmy Carr's name to a Times investigator prior even to this...so (a) who opened their big mouths in the first place and (b) who commented on this issue to the press? Note this is prior to any court case commencing and could therefore be seen to be either prejudicial, or could damage the prospects of even bringing a case without accusations of prejudice. At that time "HMRC said it was currently investigating whether the scheme was technically legal"... But of course none of this stopped Cameron criticising Jimmy Carr possibly as cover to (1) His own activities in K2 schemes - he cashed in his during 2010 and (2) the inactivity of HMG regarding international firms paying little or no taxes ie big business pals....or even (3) as a purely opportunistic swipe to try to identify with the "good guys"...or perhaps all of the above.
Everybody (and every business) that can afford to, or needs to, employ an accountant for whatever reason, will expect them to arrange their affairs so as to minimize the amount of tax they have to pay. This is just part of the service, and it would be negligent of accountants to fail to advise their clients of ways that are available, and legal, to employ to do this. There are even recognized tax avoidance schemes that are available, where the accountants will simply tell the Revenue that they are using such-and-such a scheme. It is up to the government to make them illegal, but until they do, people in the know will continue to use them. I don't blame Carr, or anybody else, from doing this. I blame the government for not banning them, which, if they are a Conservative government, they will not do because many of their benefactors use them.
Talking about Jimmy putting his ticket price up to cover his tax liability... He makes a joke about this saga when he mentions in another video about getting coffee from Starbucks, obviously his coffee shop of choice, due to similar views, is what he says. 😂👍
*Hi you two, how ya doin' today?👍🏻😊 I thought I'd briefly touch on the tax thing and Jimmy's situation just for added info purposes. So in the UK there's **_"tax avoidance"_** and **_"tax evasion"._** The first is morally frowned upon but perfectly legal. Whereas the second is also morally frowned upon PLUS it's also deemed strictly illegal. In fact the maximum sentence for tax evasion (as of 09/2021) is 7 years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. And I do literally mean "unlimited", i.e. millions or even billions of £££s!* *In Jimmy Carr's case, and luckily for him, what his accountant had done, was deemed to be tax avoidance rather than evasion. So legally, he didn't NEED to pay it back. However with having an ongoing and very successful career in show business, he felt he risked **_shooting himself in the foot_** if he hadn't agreed to pay it back. It's probably a fair indication of his personal wealth that the amount he agreed to pay back was £3.8m (equiv to $5.2m US).* *Incidentally, you might also be aware that the lead singer/songwriter of the group **_"Take That"_** (Gary Barlow) had also invested in the same scheme (known as K2), and likewise, agreed to pay back the full amount of tax he had avoided paying which was an even more impressive £28.3m ($39m US). Not a bad amount to tuck away for a future rainy day huh? Anyway keep smiling, keep healthy, and keep uploading the videos. All the best from the Isle of Man (once described by its own department of tourism on a poster as; **_"68,000 alcoholics clinging to a rock in the middle of the Irish Sea!"_** A little harsh perhaps, but pretty accurate to be fair!😮😉😊😂🤣*
Hiya Ethan, in case you didn't know I've left you a link to the accent of my home town, Whitehaven its on your accents of United Kingdom vlog, you can put it on you're vlog about all the accents of the United Kingdom, if you like
Quid is an English term for the Pound sterling, however it comes from the Archaic Latin term "Quid pro Quo" Ie; "a favour or advantage granted in return for something"
Mickey Flanagan is a Londoner Born and breed he grew up in Bethnal green which is in East London he is a cockney . To be 'born within the sound of Bow Bells'(St. Mary-le-Bow church, Cheapside, London) is the traditional definition of a Cockney. These days anyone with a London accent seem to be called cockneys but they are not.There are basically two accents in London they are cockney (I don´t mean rhyming slang) and there is estuary English which is the dominant.There is a difference in the accents but you would probably only notice it if you were from London.The other accent is Received Pronunciation' ('RP') spoken by middle and upper classes This is considered to be the correct English.Hope this helps
Yes, she truly deserves to be honoured doesn't she? Is that why, for just one example, she charges admission to Queens Gallery to view artwork owned by the nation? She's a tax avoider big time. To think otherwise is to live in the twilight zone.
Hmm, this is from a few years ago and we've had a couple of Prime Ministers since then. David Cameron took us into the Brexit vote, lost it, and immediately walked away rather than trying to deal with it. He then became a multi-million dollar consultant for an international company named Greensill where (according to Wikipedia) he was paid over $1 million each year for 25 days work each year, and there are questions about that although it wasn't illegal.
Jon wasn’t siding with politicians as much as he was saving Jimmy’s career by being as brutal as he could to him. As Jimmy has said, he knew that the best thing for his career at this point was to take his medicine on this episode. I would argue he’s not annoyed at being roasted, but he is feeling vulnerable. But Jimmy played this perfectly, to the point that tax jokes are a part of his act now. See Angus Deayton’s episode of HIGNFY to see how not to take being called out on a scandal when you’re the host of a topical panel show.
You need to start reacting to Would I Lie To You . Lee Mack and David Mitchell are definitely in my top 5 British comedians. Show hosts them both on a regular basis + other comedians you might no have heard of like James Acaster ,Kevin Bridges and so on ...
Jimmy took part of a scheme where his salary/payments were going through a trust based in Jersey. The trust would then loan him that same amount. Since loans can be recalled, they can't be included in income tax. This enabled him to skip paying up to 99% of his supposed income tax. The 1% comes from whatever amount he chose to save in his usual accounts(s).
You can't be a comedian of Jimmy Carrs calibre, commit tax evasion (but legally as such) and NOT have every other comedian you've worked with, absolutely roast you. He knew it was coming and he has dealt with the whole thing so well. NB - always check your accountants advice lmao
In a Milwaukee Subway, the know behind the counter could not understand me when I asked for "Half a Steak Sub", I asked three times and he was really irrate and I had to ask in a Yank accent before he got it. I haven't got an accent, I'm a cockney!
I believe that the term "quid" comes directly from the latin word "quid", as in the Latin phrase "quid pro quo" -- "something for something else of equal value" (Strictly translated, quid means "what")
From what I understand, it wasn't even that Jimmy was actively looking to try and minimize his taxes as much as possible. It was like he said, his accountant asked him if he wanted to pay less taxes, it was legal, Jimmy said yes, and that was the end of his involvement, and he just let his accountant manage things from there. If anything, it's amazing his accountant didn't embezzle any money from him.
Ken Dodd went to trial for tax evasion in 1989, he was acquitted of all charges during the trail, Dodd said: his account was dead, in which he said, But Sir, the man is dead The prosecutor replied, " what matter is his evidence" "whether he alive or dead is irrelevant." Dodd reply, "It's very relevant to him, sir" Which made the judge leave in a fit of laughter. The QC representing him said, "Some accountants are comedian, but comedian are never accountants." Dodd would say in.his introduction, "I'm Ken Arthur Dood, artist, model and failed accountant."also "how tickled I am, and up yours taxman." In 2002 he had a £10 rebate, he said, that he made sure to tick the right box.
He essentially set his company up in a tax haven like the Kamen Islands so his income wasn't taxable at a corporate level. Paid himself a bare minimum salary as director of the company which he paid pitence of tax on, and then drew massive profit shares from his offshore company, which is not subject to tax. A LOT of rich people were doing it, mostly MPs and their cronies, David Cameron's father benefited Massively from the scheme, so they made an example of Jimmy to divert attention from themselves. Its basically a loophole that all rich peoples accountants were advising they take advantage of.
Micky Flanagan is a proper old school London cockney...... cockneys n their accent is a specific historical accent within a 2 mile area of East London....very working class/blue collar accent...... nowadays his accent is dying out......it's quite rare.
That week, Jimmy had a choice. Go in work, do the show and face the roast - or he could have gone sick but it would have been obvious why ;) Micky Flanagan is so funny. Louis is from Pineapple Dance Studio's, not a comedian per se but he's just hilarious 24/7 I miss Sean Lock.
Just letting you know so you don't get any angry Brits: Britain is England, Scotland, Wales and N Ireland So describing someone as "Not British he sounds Scottish" is like saying "He's not American, he sounds like he's from California."
I think more people were annoyed he was legally avoiding tax, but equally given the option to see nearly half their money go to taxes or almost none of it, then they would've done the same thing.
He paid back the taxes he would have owed, with some interest or penalties thrown in. He made the decision on advice from his accountant. And, I believe, his accountant disappeared to main land Europe. I don't know if he's surfaced yet.
Jimmy told Sean and Jon to go at him hard. And good on him he did, this episode managed to rescue his career imo.
Mickey Flanagan isn't Scottish, he's from the East end of London which makes him a Cockney. His accent is nothing like Scottish.
His accent is alike Scottish in the sense that it's hard to understand.
Yes comes from Columbia road Bethnal Green
And he's one of my fav comedians. They should check him out
@@ruk2023-- Too who?
@@simonpowell2559 most none cockneys
Before this episode was filmed, Sean went to Jimmy and asked if he was genuinely ok. He was being a proper friend to him. Once he got permission from Jimmy he shredded him!
But he was genuinely concerned about him
It was tax avoidance, not tax evasion. Avoidance is legal, evasion is not.
Yeah so they got buffing back.
People only get annoyed over tax avoidance because they're not doing it!
@@robmartin525 You get tax credits? you don't pay tax on your first 14 grand? You put money in your pension? your also partaking in tax avoidance!
I thought he got a roughride as he wasn’t breaking the law and David Cameron talking about it on national TV
@@selfaware3940 Hey I didn't say I get annoyed! I have an ISA!
Avoiding the taxman is the name of the game!
This was the best and quickest way to face the nation apologise and move on, being roasted by Shaun was ridicule enough and the nation forgave him within a week....Well done Jimmy
And Cameron won no common acclaim for outing him in the end.
Personally I can't stand tax dodgers. Jimmy Carr apologising and saying he just didn't think makes him about the only one I can forgive.
@@michaeldowson6988 strange how he outed Jimmy for legal evasion but not his pal Gary Barlow for illegal avoidance.
like he had a choice he needed the money especially after the tax office actually took what it was owed off him
@@RK-zf1jm I couldn’t find any account of him actually having to pay restitution. Since it was “legal”, it seems he was just shamed for it publicly.
I did find another article talking about having to pay after a tax incentive he contributed to was deemed a fraud in 2015, 3 years later. Some building project in a low income area that was never used for intended data center. I read that as more of an investment scheme targeting the rich than him actively setting up a building to use as a tax shelter. Got presented with what amounts to a charitable investment and ended up ripped off and getting a big tax penalty.
The best part that David Cameron and his family were later found to do exactly the same thing. Also the PM never called out any other large corporations for not paying billions in tax, just some random guy for not paying a million.
Indeed.
That's because Jimmy does not shovel load in to the Tories pockets, unlike the others.
Yeah of course how is it a secret from people that every member of the torries is usually a millionaire over half the cabinet own vasts amounts of property that rent both privtely and worse pubically thats right over 30 percent of "council" property is rented from MPS before Rishi and Javid there was osborn stephen osborn family has hundreds of millions of pounds in bank as well as having an annual income of 16 million pounds from his investments. So when he said were all in it together bullshit just bullshit. The worst thing is its not even hard to find out how dodgy our MPs are its just nobody gives enough of fuck to look. Which is why you dont get to say shit when they get caught lying Boris johnson is a lying sack of shit hes been proven to be a liar multiple times his father keeps letting slip what torries actually think of the voters when his dad got caught saying hes surprised any of the voters can read. You think Boris is any different hes just a little bit better at bullshit than the old man. (Also look up Borris Johnsons full name that is a french royal name investigate further you ll find his family is 5th in line to the thrown of England and this is a man who tried to sell himself of being a man of the people)
Theres people in this thread think tax evasion and using ones parliamentary powers abusively to make money is an exclusively tory behaviour.... 😌😂🤣
Hardly a "random guy", hence the choice in the first place; he blamed Jimmy because people know who Jimmy is. But, fair point to the rest.
I think fair game to him, as he said, his accountant asked if he wanted to legally pay less tax, no-one in their right mind would say no.
Good comment. I'm pretty sure his accountant made all the arrangements, he just signed the paperwork.
That’s the truth there. I’ve looked into accountants to help with taxes and I don’t even pull $35,000 a year.
One that really gets my goat are the companies that negotiate with the IRS after you are found guilty and they work your fines and penalties down. If the government can forget $20,000 in fines and penalties from one case, why they coming after my $5,500 so hard every year?
They would if they had millions in income, a tax bill of pennies, and any sort of conscience.
Equating "right mind" with "unchecked selfishness" is... probably not ideal?
@@jlondon1441 tbf our tax system
is way less confusing than the US. The only people that need accountants are self employed people, businesses and millionaires. Everyone else your tax comes straight out of your wages and in May you get a cheque if they decide you paid too much. No forms or paperwork or tax returns. Tax returns for self employed are pretty simple too.
Our system is set up to make it harder for people to evade and avoid tax. It’s usually pretty obvious if someone is avoiding tax so most of them get caught.
Cameron was two-faced, he profited from his fathers offshore tax evasion... After three days of stalling and four partial statements issued by Downing Street he confessed that he owned shares in the tax haven fund, which he sold for £31,500 just before becoming prime minister in 2010.
Yes because Cameron the child had vast influence on his father's tax affairs.
@@charlestaylor3027 He did have control over his own money in that fund. Strange you didn't grasp that?
@@daveofyorkshire301 To say that in English you would say he profited from his own tax evasion not his fathers.
@@charlestaylor3027 I am English, it was his fathers fund he was invested in, so you are wrong...
Avoidance not evasion.
Avoidance is legal while evasion is illegal.
"Is Mickey Flanagan British as well?"
"I think he's Scottish"
Hahaha! 🤣😂🤣😂
This is just typical english banter like you see in a pub. Everyone takes the piss over here. Just normal.
Similar in Ireland.
Same in Scotland also
Jimmy was being reserved because it had just happened that week. If he was seen to be laughing about it, the tabloids would have slaughtered him.
I'm not sure Jimmy gives too much of a fig what the tabloids think; not a lot of audience overlap, I wouldn't imagine. I think he was, rightfully, a bit ashamed. It's pretty shitty to be wealthy and use that power to get your tax bill way below that of people with far less disposable income than yourself.
I don't really think that would be the case, the tabloids are a bit afraid of people who have a voice and a platform to strike back, add to that he's a savage professional comedian, he could easily call them out on their bullshit in 5 seconds flat and make them look pretty stupid in a public forum.
His colleagues were really pretty angry at him but the fact he agreed to face the music so publicly when others on the list hid away till it blew over was the best thing he could've done. The nation respected him for it and he did pay it all back even though in reality he didn't have to. He did feel bad about it and as stated it wasn't illegal just very much frowned upon by regular working folk. He absolutely did the right thing by owning his mistake and accepting the consequences. He wasn't irritated during this he was embarrassed and rightly so and people were defending him and as he rightly said he had no defence at all and deserved what came to him and he knee it.
Yes, frowned upon, like farting in a lift. 😂😂
@utha2665
Yeah, most people just wait until they get to reception and fart there instead!
RIP Sean thanks for the wonderful Humour, enjoyed your videos over the past months. Cheers Alan UK Subscriber.
This was the absolute best way for him to handle it. Don't deny. Don't get mad. Take it on the chin. Worked out for him. He made money on it.
I can actually remember the excitement i had waiting for this episode to air.
Love that you use a Yorkshire greeting, lass and lasses, it feels so wholesome and it's rare anyone pick our dialect at all so thankyou.
Other entertainers have had their careers destroyed forever for not saying anything after being caught, Jimmy took it on the chin, and he's still here at the top of his trade.
watchin Sean in this gives me joy and sadness in equal parts...
I haven't seen or maybe noticed his comment at the end about the queen, even more respect now.
Just stopped by to point out that David Cameron has benefited from offshore tax avoidance schemes (not to mention also avoiding inheritance tax and the whole Greensil lobbying scandal recently). Hypocritical arse.
Conservatives (capital C, or lowercase c) tend to be hypocrites.
On a similar level, a number of years back a panel host called Angus Deaton hosted the show a few days after a newspaper published a story about him being caught doing cocaine in a hotel with a prostitute. Even knowing that he was going to be royally roasted, he turned up and took it.
I saw something on that. The producers where going to pull him from the show, but then thought it would be a bit 2 faced, seeing as the number of people they roast on the show every week. But fair play to him, he went on and took it.
Angus Deaton was eventually pulled from the show as another allegation arose some time after. The situation as i believe was inaccurate in some form but instead of keeping quiet or be apologetic in some form, tried to make a joke about the situation he was in which did not sit well with the collegues and producers, nor did the audience find it funny
@@kodiak1984 I think it was over for him when he tried to joke about Nigel Hamilton being in scandals and his wife basically pulled an Uno reverse card on him.
Absolutley killer episode I was going to recommend, watched it live when I was 12, had to go digging for it later when I remembered what gold I had witnessed.
Deayton opened with: "Good evening and welcome to HIGNFY, where this week's loser is presenting it." -- ruclips.net/video/7L8ij02Df2w/видео.html
The reason the government went for him over this was Jimmie made a near the knuckle joke about wounded servicemen. The Defence Secretary re-acted with outrage and tried to make political capital out of it. It blew up in his face when it turned out Jimmie had got the joke from a wounded service on one of several visits to their hospital and the Minster had not visited even once.
He mentions it in passing at 12:44 as "the joke about the paralympics"
Nah, the only reason he made any headway was because he was a distraction.
His tax avoidance wasn't even a pittance, and his importance was absolutely nil. He was just something to make the proles latch their jaws unto and not thing of anything of import
@@UnsoberIdiot Yes there is some truth in that. The Tories use dead cats as part of their divide and rule strategy.
Have to watch this again it’s hilarious 😂. He really got roasted 🤣😂
If you genuinely apologise for something people will usually accept that and let you move on. We all make mistakes and commit "offences". Denial and bullshit is a definite no-no.....
It was not a party !
Sean Lock’s joke *Through the Loophole* is a riff on a very popular 90s gameshow called *Through the Keyhole* where contestants would guess which famous person lived in a house based on video of the interior.
It was presented by Lloyd Grossman who catchphrase was “And who lives in a house like this?”
You are totally right about large companies not just in the US but all over they will usually put prices up or cuts costs to cover any payout .
Hahaha! Great to see you two!
I love how the postcard of the Queen moves around the map.....I'm always curious where she is going to end up on the next episode.
I would avoid sticking it over Africa if at all possible.
So large it'd cover Ireland if they put it on the UK, wouldn't recommend that.
@@MrGrifft Want to avoid putting it over india as well. China or North Korea is a bad idea, unless you want your accounts hacked. Don't put it on Russia unless you have a supply of iodine. Lets put it on top of Antarctica, no one lives there so only some one who is insane could possibly object.
@@paulmidsussex3409: Eh... Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway and *Argentina* are claimants of parts of Antarctica. You could see how the latter could get their knickers in a twist. 😂
Another great video. You asked in a previous video 'who is that guy', a man with bright blonde hair and big teeth, that was Rob Beckett. Very funny man, best watched when Tom Allen is on the show at the same time. I'd like to tell you why but don't want to spoil it for you 🤣🤣🤣
Angus Deayton got a vicious roasting when he was the host of Have I Got News For You
Wasn't that coke and hookers?
@@simonpowell2559 It was.
He did nothing illegal, just morally dodgy. He had his money in a scheme that avoided tax rather than evaded tax. Once he realised it was seen as dodgy he left the scheme.
Erm, not true. He left when he got caught. If he'd done it unprompted, he'd be far less embarrassed about it. He did wrong, was nicked, and came clean about it.
People who complain about "cancel culture" should be forced to watch this. Sincere apologies; not that hard.
It’s not that once he realized it was seen as dodgy that he left, he knew it was wrong when he agreed to do it and then got caught.
@@michaelccozens Allegations made in bad faith should never be rewarded with sincere apologies. People who complain about cancel culture object to the often disingenuous and vengeful nature of the complaints. To using the dubious court of public opinion to settle decades old offenses. To tasteless mud slinging and airing dirty laundry in public.
Verdict is out in the Amber Heard defamation trial btw, enjoy!
Isn't it funny how the rich can avoid tax but it's technically not illegal. My tax is taken out before I even see it.
Shepherds Bush is a district in London.
Specifically, it's home to the Television Centre.
David Cameron personally benefited from offshore tax havens, but more importantly his political party (the Tory Party) protect the interests of others who also benefit from the same tax havens. So for him to point the finger at Jimmy was very much a case of the pot calling the kettle a tax dodger.
Have you watched QI?
A lot of comedic smart banter on there as well, incl. Sean Lock among many, many others!
Might even get some inspiration from watching?
and Taskmaster! hilarious show!
hello from Denmark 🌸 🌱
The tax scheme was something like this: Jimmy needed to resign from his current contract, join a Jersey company on an identical but Jersey based contract and take a small (tax free) salary. The rest of the normal pay due under the old contract was paid as a loan which the Jersey company never got back so deducted as an expense (no tax on their income). The loan to Jimmy was interest free so they assume he would have paid around 4% interest and call that amount taxable, so the tax works out at around 1% of the total. The problem clearly being they are twisting facts to make it a loan not a salary.
Was looking for this through the comments because i live in jersey btw and yeh no cares but yeh
Jimmy is clever and knew how to play it, but he did it well.
Guys, may I ask a quick question? There's something I wonder about (particularly American) Reactors, is how you have changed your viewing habits since you have started this channel? Do you still watch American Network Shows with the same enthusiasm? What are the American equivalent of '8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown' and 'Mock the Week' like by comparison or do you not have the same show over there? Thanks. Love the videos, good to see you learn more about a European country!
Great question. Enquiring minds wish to know... :D
Yes, I'd like to know that too!
As a Canadian exposed greatly to both American and British pop culture I can confidently say there is nothing like 8 Out Of 10 Cats ( or even "does Countdown") in the US. In fact, there is nothing like British panel shows in general. Game shows with contestants winning prizes are on US television but you would not see a show where celebrities have teams that compete just for the sake of entertainment there. Maybe as a segment of a late night show like on Jimmy Fallon, but not a series.
@@clarissathompson Yes, I've seen some of those segments on the chat shows : sorry to say, they leave me rather cold. I know that US TV was notorious for its censorship in the past, but I was wondering if the success of Netflix, HBO etc had made the networks relax their policy of extreme censorship a little, 'loosen up' perhaps a bit more...?!
It’s funny how many of the jokes you didn’t get: farting in a lift - a lift is an elevator.
My uncle when he moved to Connecticut from here in the uk all his American friends gave him the nick name quid.
An important point that people outside the UK and Ireland seem to miss is that British does not mean English. If someone is Scottish, English, Welsh, or I believe Northern Irish too, then they are British.
Actually ... and this will cause any Northern Ireland Unionist to have a frothing convulsion ... since the UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland is NOT part of Great Britain (which is actually a geographical term for the entire island which holds the countries of England, Scotland and Wales). It (N.I.) IS part of the political entity that is the United Kingdom - and since there is no exactly descriptive specific term for a citizen of the UK (Unitish / Kingan anyone?) by convention, all citizens of that polity are referred to as British even though the Northern Irish do NOT actually live in Great Britain.
Some Scots (or Scottish but NEVER scotch - that's a drink!) have a similar issue, in that Scotland is not part of Britain (which comprises of England & Wales) and hence those Scottish of a more Independent frame of mind do not like to be referred to as British, although as part of GREAT Britain, the term does have a little more precision for them than it does for the Northern Irish.
@@carefulwatcher3073 Oh. I didn't know Britain and Great Britain were two entities.
Note: by voluntarily given the entire income of the crown estates over to the treasury in exchange for an annual stipend and relief from responsibility to fund the civil government the queen pays an effective 90% (approximate) tax rate.
Shite......crown property my a...!!
@@fabiotabaton314 To be fair, the crown estates actually buy land and build shopping parks and stuff, I used to work at one that was owned by the crown. So its not just old mansions etc, there is investment being done
@@stevecharles4498 cheers Steve I get your point...just reacting to the 90 per cent tax on the royal...! Ciao
Her Majesty has been paying that tax rate for 30+ years. She also covers the cost of all her private travel and security.
@@mrk8050 no shit!!! Ciao
I remember David Mitchell did a bit about Tax Avoidance and Tax Evasion and the differences.
shepherd’s bush is a place in england. the joke is that it’s a very long commute to mexico city
2:18 Shepherd's Bush is a West London district. The "Mexico City commuter" joke was that it would be a terrible commute for Jimmy to have to cross the Atlantic to get to work. The deliberate misunderstanding was that the study was referring to all commuters, and not just the ones in the city mentioned.
Chris O'Donnell was Robin to Val Kilmer's Batman, IIRC, but I could totally see him pulling-off that dance, preferably in costume.
9:22 For those who may not know, Harold Shipman is a famous, prolific, and quite recent serial killer in Britain. He was a doctor, and one of those "Angel of Death" types, though not the Kevorkian kind that actually asked people if they wanted to die or not. IIRC, he was caught when he fudged a death certificate in an attempt to support a phony will that left all of his patient's money (around a million US) to himself. Real class act.
14:33 As with many expressions and slang terms, there's lots of "folk" (ie. wrong, mythical; as in "folklore") etymologies for "quid", including that it's related to "quid pro quo" ("this for that"), or is the remnant of a phrase altered by accents, etc. Merriam-Webster says the origin is unknown, but it notes that the earliest recorded use of the word in the sense discussed is in 1688.
20:59 Eh, this is sorta true, but also something of a right-wing lie to justify never attempting to increase taxes on anyone, particularly the wealthy and corporations (the "starve the beast" strategy, in which you let gov die on the vine so the power of the rich goes unchecked). What it "forgets" to account for is factors that restrain the ability to raise prices without consequence, including market competition, the effect of price on demand, etc. The reality of the situation is that, in most cases, while some of the increase may be passed to consumers, some will also come from the corporation's profits, which may otherwise have gone to executive salaries and dividends for shareholders (who are, in large proportion, the richest of the rich).
Before the show Sean would’ve asked jimmy what he wanted him to do - how he wanted him to handle it (like to lay off or to make a quick reference and move on). Clearly jimmy just told him to have at it and it worked because the whole country felt like he got a good kicking and that was enough.
I'm not sure how true that is. Comedians tend to be pretty protective of their creative freedom. I would hope Jimmy would have the consistency not to ask for special protection from the (rightfully) examining eye of comedy, especially as his job is doling out same.
@@michaelccozens They're also a close group and do many of their comedy or TV shows together, Obviously they would look out for each other unless they already don't like each other.
Jimmy's own take on his taxes "Why Jimmy Carr HATES tax loopholes | Room 101 - BBC"
Watching Americans watch this is legit adorable... I'm Australian so we're like half British and even I don't get some of the jokes or expressions. To you guys it must be like a whole other language...!
Apparently about the same time that star bucks mc Donald's and a lot of amrican business didn't pay much tax ether
The joke around 2:20 that you didn't get; Mexico City is the worst city in the world to be a commuter, especially for Jimmy, because he works in Shephard's Bush.. (London).. Quite a commute..? :)
By the way 'Quid' is believed to come from the Latin 'Quid Quo Pro' - 'Something for Something'. (Roman Occupation in Ancient Britain) !
Micky has a London accent lol
In the UK the quiz shows for the ordinary "man in the street" contestants are on afternoon "day time" TV for mostly housewives and college students. The celebrity panel shows are big on BBC Radio and evening TV. Countdown is actually a daytime game show that has been going since 1983.
Sean later on in the show on the category Ways To Reduce Stress...to which he answered PAY YOUR TAXES!!! and blew the audience away...
Hats off to Jimmy he came clean and took his lumps. Others were and are not so honest
Love this guy Jimmy Carr he always has me in stitches and may I also add may Sean Locke rest in peace also I would like to say the Queen actually pays tax. And technically jersey is still part of the British isles
She only started paying tax in 1992, she’s been Queen with millions of income per annum from the taxpayer since 1952, that’s 40 years tax free, bitch!
I used to work for a top ten accountancy firm in London that was originally set up to target media clients, so actors popstars, sports stars. I remember, as a junior being in meetings with these famous financial illiterates discussing LEGAL tax avoidance investments where it was presented to them as you'd be daft not to do this.
Jimmy Carr invested in a legal investment that could save him tax. He has been unfairly abused for this.
Our clients included Harry Potter actors, boy band members, indie bands (not Oasis, the other one).
They were not intentionally avoiding tax they were just doing as they were advised.
Shepherd’s Bush is in London, that was the gag
"Is he British?" "I think he's Scottish"
😂
I could barely recall 8 out of 10 cats before it merged its countdown. Nice to be reminded
Shepherd’s Bush is the part of London where the BBC studios are located.
He was still loved, and no one blamed im. Gary Barlow from Take That, used same tax but not mentioned.
Cost him his knighthood....
Wasn't lambasted in press so much. Never mind all in past now. 👍
"Letter of the law, not the spirit of the law."
Basically he didn't break the law, but he followed some questionable laws that shouldn't really exist.
Fifty years ago, upon leaving school I joined the ranks of the Inland Revenue. Literally the first thing I was taught, by a long-serving Tax Officer (Higher Grade) was "You are not here to make people pay more taxes; as much as anything you are here to make sure that nobody pays more taxes than the law demands. There are two separate issues, tax avoidance which is perfectly legal, and tax evasion which is not legal, and which we pursue" - I remember that little speech distinctly after all this time, despite only staying with HMIT about three years...it struck me as the epitome of what a civil servant ought to be...
I also recall swearing a solemn oath never to publicly disclose or discuss anything of any nature regarding anything I learned about anybody's affairs during the course of my duties.
Alas for so much that has changed in the intervening period, including dishonourable suits who seem to break the Official Secrets Act willy-nilly, even when not under the protection of parliamentary privilege.
@@cogidubnus1953 Tax affairs which are private and confidential become public the moment a court case is brought against an individual or company. The only court held in camera is the Family Court or when a Judge rules that it is in the public interest that it is held in private if involving national security issues. Justice has to be seen to be done, even if a complete ass at times.
@@tonys1636 The news was disclosed when HMRC were apparently (Guardian 19th June 2012) still considering taking persons to court over the K2 avoidance scheme...somebody had already at that time released Jimmy Carr's name to a Times investigator prior even to this...so (a) who opened their big mouths in the first place and (b) who commented on this issue to the press?
Note this is prior to any court case commencing and could therefore be seen to be either prejudicial, or could damage the prospects of even bringing a case without accusations of prejudice. At that time "HMRC said it was currently investigating whether the scheme was technically legal"...
But of course none of this stopped Cameron criticising Jimmy Carr possibly as cover to (1) His own activities in K2 schemes - he cashed in his during 2010 and (2) the inactivity of HMG regarding international firms paying little or no taxes ie big business pals....or even (3) as a purely opportunistic swipe to try to identify with the "good guys"...or perhaps all of the above.
"Shouldn't"
Our tax money goes to tonnes of stuff it "shouldn't", but our only influence over it is so indirect that it's negligible.
Everybody (and every business) that can afford to, or needs to, employ an accountant for whatever reason, will expect them to arrange their affairs so as to minimize the amount of tax they have to pay. This is just part of the service, and it would be negligent of accountants to fail to advise their clients of ways that are available, and legal, to employ to do this. There are even recognized tax avoidance schemes that are available, where the accountants will simply tell the Revenue that they are using such-and-such a scheme. It is up to the government to make them illegal, but until they do, people in the know will continue to use them. I don't blame Carr, or anybody else, from doing this. I blame the government for not banning them, which, if they are a Conservative government, they will not do because many of their benefactors use them.
Talking about Jimmy putting his ticket price up to cover his tax liability...
He makes a joke about this saga when he mentions in another video about getting coffee from Starbucks, obviously his coffee shop of choice, due to similar views, is what he says. 😂👍
*Hi you two, how ya doin' today?👍🏻😊 I thought I'd briefly touch on the tax thing and Jimmy's situation just for added info purposes. So in the UK there's **_"tax avoidance"_** and **_"tax evasion"._** The first is morally frowned upon but perfectly legal. Whereas the second is also morally frowned upon PLUS it's also deemed strictly illegal. In fact the maximum sentence for tax evasion (as of 09/2021) is 7 years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. And I do literally mean "unlimited", i.e. millions or even billions of £££s!*
*In Jimmy Carr's case, and luckily for him, what his accountant had done, was deemed to be tax avoidance rather than evasion. So legally, he didn't NEED to pay it back. However with having an ongoing and very successful career in show business, he felt he risked **_shooting himself in the foot_** if he hadn't agreed to pay it back. It's probably a fair indication of his personal wealth that the amount he agreed to pay back was £3.8m (equiv to $5.2m US).*
*Incidentally, you might also be aware that the lead singer/songwriter of the group **_"Take That"_** (Gary Barlow) had also invested in the same scheme (known as K2), and likewise, agreed to pay back the full amount of tax he had avoided paying which was an even more impressive £28.3m ($39m US). Not a bad amount to tuck away for a future rainy day huh? Anyway keep smiling, keep healthy, and keep uploading the videos. All the best from the Isle of Man (once described by its own department of tourism on a poster as; **_"68,000 alcoholics clinging to a rock in the middle of the Irish Sea!"_** A little harsh perhaps, but pretty accurate to be fair!😮😉😊😂🤣*
"good evening your majesty, you tax-avoiding bitch" god thats a legendary line, especially with that delivery.
Hiya Ethan, in case you didn't know I've left you a link to the accent of my home town, Whitehaven its on your accents of United Kingdom vlog, you can put it on you're vlog about all the accents of the United Kingdom, if you like
Mickey has the accent Dick VanDyke failed to copy in Mary Poppins. It's an East London accent called Cockney.
Love the wife/husband combo x
Quid is a slang word for pounds, in the same way that bucks is a slang word for dollars.
Quid is an English term for the Pound sterling, however it comes from the Archaic Latin term "Quid pro Quo" Ie; "a favour or advantage granted in return for something"
Mickey Flanagan is a Londoner Born and breed he grew up in Bethnal green which is in East London he is a cockney . To be 'born within the sound of Bow Bells'(St. Mary-le-Bow church, Cheapside, London) is the traditional definition of a Cockney. These days anyone with a London accent seem to be called cockneys but they are not.There are basically two accents in London they are cockney (I don´t mean rhyming slang) and there is estuary English which is the dominant.There is a difference in the accents but you would probably only notice it if you were from London.The other accent is Received Pronunciation' ('RP') spoken by middle and upper classes This is considered to be the correct English.Hope this helps
Fuuny thing is the queen actually pays taxes she isn't legally obligated to pay for and encourages all of the royal family to pay it.
Yes, she truly deserves to be honoured doesn't she? Is that why, for just one example, she charges admission to Queens Gallery to view artwork owned by the nation? She's a tax avoider big time. To think otherwise is to live in the twilight zone.
Hmm, this is from a few years ago and we've had a couple of Prime Ministers since then. David Cameron took us into the Brexit vote, lost it, and immediately walked away rather than trying to deal with it. He then became a multi-million dollar consultant for an international company named Greensill where (according to Wikipedia) he was paid over $1 million each year for 25 days work each year, and there are questions about that although it wasn't illegal.
Jon wasn’t siding with politicians as much as he was saving Jimmy’s career by being as brutal as he could to him. As Jimmy has said, he knew that the best thing for his career at this point was to take his medicine on this episode. I would argue he’s not annoyed at being roasted, but he is feeling vulnerable. But Jimmy played this perfectly, to the point that tax jokes are a part of his act now. See Angus Deayton’s episode of HIGNFY to see how not to take being called out on a scandal when you’re the host of a topical panel show.
Does anyone know if this tax loophole has been closed?
You need to start reacting to Would I Lie To You . Lee Mack and David Mitchell are definitely in my top 5 British comedians. Show hosts them both on a regular basis + other comedians you might no have heard of like James Acaster ,Kevin Bridges and so on ...
Cameron profited from his dad, paying tax in Panama.
Louie Spence the dancing fella is basically our version of Chuck Norris
Jimmy took part of a scheme where his salary/payments were going through a trust based in Jersey. The trust would then loan him that same amount. Since loans can be recalled, they can't be included in income tax. This enabled him to skip paying up to 99% of his supposed income tax. The 1% comes from whatever amount he chose to save in his usual accounts(s).
"You've overtaken the Kray twins in respect". That's a reference to a family of London gangsters. London gangsters do exist, believe it or not!
You can't be a comedian of Jimmy Carrs calibre, commit tax evasion (but legally as such) and NOT have every other comedian you've worked with, absolutely roast you. He knew it was coming and he has dealt with the whole thing so well. NB - always check your accountants advice lmao
The rest of the episode just kept getting dragged back to Jimmy's tax avoidance, it's fantastic
he was hiding his money on my island lol many many others do the same, fair play jimmy haha
Aah, lovely Sean Lock. He was brilliant on this. RiP.
You were great in the all season of "futurman"
In a Milwaukee Subway, the know behind the counter could not understand me when I asked for "Half a Steak Sub", I asked three times and he was really irrate and I had to ask in a Yank accent before he got it. I haven't got an accent, I'm a cockney!
Sorry of all things I am remembering from this is you thinking Micky Flanagan has a Scottish accent 🤣🤣
Mind blowing. Like if we said a New Yorker is from California.
I believe that the term "quid" comes directly from the latin word "quid", as in the Latin phrase "quid pro quo" -- "something for something else of equal value" (Strictly translated, quid means "what")
Rip Sean Locke he was a great comedian lost to cancer
From what I understand, it wasn't even that Jimmy was actively looking to try and minimize his taxes as much as possible. It was like he said, his accountant asked him if he wanted to pay less taxes, it was legal, Jimmy said yes, and that was the end of his involvement, and he just let his accountant manage things from there. If anything, it's amazing his accountant didn't embezzle any money from him.
Micky Flanagan was born in Whitechapel, London.
He has got a Cockney accent.
Ken Dodd went to trial for tax evasion in 1989, he was acquitted of all charges during the trail, Dodd said: his account was dead, in which he said, But Sir, the man is dead
The prosecutor replied, " what matter is his evidence" "whether he alive or dead is irrelevant."
Dodd reply, "It's very relevant to him, sir"
Which made the judge leave in a fit of laughter.
The QC representing him said, "Some accountants are comedian, but comedian are never accountants."
Dodd would say in.his introduction, "I'm Ken Arthur Dood, artist, model and failed accountant."also "how tickled I am, and up yours taxman."
In 2002 he had a £10 rebate, he said, that he made sure to tick the right box.
He essentially set his company up in a tax haven like the Kamen Islands so his income wasn't taxable at a corporate level. Paid himself a bare minimum salary as director of the company which he paid pitence of tax on, and then drew massive profit shares from his offshore company, which is not subject to tax. A LOT of rich people were doing it, mostly MPs and their cronies, David Cameron's father benefited Massively from the scheme, so they made an example of Jimmy to divert attention from themselves.
Its basically a loophole that all rich peoples accountants were advising they take advantage of.
As far as the $7+ million in question, that wasn't the taxes he evaded, it was the money he evaded taxes on.
Jimmy can sure get his revenge on Cameron now!
Micky Flanagan is a proper old school London cockney...... cockneys n their accent is a specific historical accent within a 2 mile area of East London....very working class/blue collar accent...... nowadays his accent is dying out......it's quite rare.
Micky Flannagan has a broad cockney accent. Definitely not Scottish!
That week, Jimmy had a choice. Go in work, do the show and face the roast - or he could have gone sick but it would have been obvious why ;)
Micky Flanagan is so funny.
Louis is from Pineapple Dance Studio's, not a comedian per se but he's just hilarious 24/7
I miss Sean Lock.
Just letting you know so you don't get any angry Brits:
Britain is England, Scotland, Wales and N Ireland
So describing someone as "Not British he sounds Scottish" is like saying "He's not American, he sounds like he's from California."
Errr.... N Ireland is not in Britian, it's in the UK, but yes they tend to get lumped as British when you talk about the people.
@@maximushaughton2404 fuck, I learned something and it hurt
How I remember: the UK is the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" - so NI is not a part of Great Britain.
I think more people were annoyed he was legally avoiding tax, but equally given the option to see nearly half their money go to taxes or almost none of it, then they would've done the same thing.
Nah , only the scumbags, I’m fine with paying my taxes, I can afford it, and I earn a lot, but probably a fifth of the average celebrity earnings.
He paid back the taxes he would have owed, with some interest or penalties thrown in. He made the decision on advice from his accountant. And, I believe, his accountant disappeared to main land Europe. I don't know if he's surfaced yet.