Thank you to everyone for your kind comments and support. I am still a bit in shock and have needed some time for it to sink in! As for me and my situation, I have been unemployed for quite some time due to discrimination in the workplace and have had a hard time keeping jobs with the deaths in my family the past few years. I did reach out to the Aftermath Foundation. Despite the help they do offer some, they told me they were unable to help me due to how long it’s been since I left. It’s unfortunate because I could really use the help but I’m sure they have their reasons for making decisions. Thanks again y’all. Life is tough for me but your comments and kindness have made a difference. ❤
Daisy, your story is both heart-wrenching and inspiring. Thank you for your bravery and vulnerability. I would purchase and read your book. I hope you’ll consider writing and publishing it. 💗
Hi Daisy. Try not to be hard on yourself for struggling to work. I can't hold a job and I didn't even grow up in such a scary awful place. I can imagine you do the same thing I do, and feel like you're not "productive enough" - you're HEALING. That's productive enough.
@@machinegurlll I appreciate that. I’m trying to be kind to myself. Unfortunately healing doesn’t pay the bills and I have no source of financial support while not being able to work. Just gotta keep hoping something comes around. Thanks for the kindness.
really? do you know how corrupt your gov is? they are big fans of child sacrifice -- there is a reason why they are protected and it isn't their brainpower....
A phrase that I’ve taken and keep saying is “I’ve learned more about consent in the kink community than I ever did in Christianity.” It’s truly frightening how that hold true throughout so many cults/religions.
46:50: If speaking my own truth for the sake of helping others causes my family or other people to disconnect from me, it would truly be horrible, but not as horrible as continuing to live in shame and silence. WHAT A POWERFUL STATEMENT. Daisy, you deserved better, and you are already shining as it was supposed to be from the beginning.
I just don't understand how these parents would not protect their own children. I wouldn't let anyone abuse my child and get away with blaming my child. And I would also report them to the authorities, no matter what ANYONE said to me or tried to do to me.
I can't process how they claim when something bad happens to you, that it's YOUR fault but somehow her dad's cancer is Daisy's fault???? Like seriously, pick a struggle and stick to it, I can't believe the inconsistencies and that's the least of the horrors she just shared 😢
Oh no, this is horrific. So brave, and i feel honoured that you chose to share it with us first. Shalise was the best choice for this. You're safe with her ❤
What the actual... You're so strong to be able to come on and expose such a horrific cult. I'm sure it'll stop people in the future making a huge mistake ❤
Oh Daisy. I'm so sorry for what you have been through. I just want to give you a hug and tell you to hold your head high. You did nothing wrong. You were the victim and I would love to see those people suffer the consequences for what they have done
Daisy's story is truly horrific and she tells it with grace and dignity. I commend her for finding those aspects within herself after a childhood so traumatic. These conversations are so important for bringing awareness and shedding light on these damaging practices and beliefs. Another great interview Shelise!
I've heard many horrific stories about scientology (Kelli Copter) and this one made me cry. I am so, so sorry you went through this..SP won a major victory with the Danny Masterson conviction, may this be the thread that causes the unraveling of the cult of scientology!🤬 Hi OSA
Wow. Just wow. I want so much for Daisy to have a bright future. I hope the right person to help bring this about sees this episode. I think I can speak for most of us-Daisy, you are loved. Learning to love yourself is difficult for many of us, but it is incredibly important. The abuse of children in these cults is the main reason there needs to be legislation against them-and we have to directly fight them to achieve that.
How convenient, blame everything on the child. That’s so messed up. Thank you for sharing your experiences in the cos. You are very brave. Wishing you the very best 🌈
My heart broke while listening this! 💔💔💔 I didn't know Scientology is so bad! I didn't know anything about it except that some celebrities are their members...
Im so proud of you Daisy!!! Ripping off the band aid of scientology victim blaming /shaming. I hope it is healing to be able to share your experiences freely! I am proud to know you,and proud to watch you walk in your truths! Love you friend! 💝🫶😘
Daisy ❤ you were a child, and what happened to you was not your fault. I'm sorry you went through so much hell, and I'm sorry your parents, your family, weren't the ones who helped you. You are so strong and beautiful, and please keep on keeping on. ❤
Love your content Shelise. Yesterday I had to drive a couple of hundred miles to a Dr and back and thoroughly enjoyed your first interview with your Mom. It came up in my feed after seeing you interview several different people, and your interview with Aaron. I would definitely recommend it to anyone else interested interested in your content. It was really amazing, and brave you two could discuss the trauma your family has known for several generations. I thought deprogramming from my upbringing in the 70s was a lifelong lesson. Your's is quite incredible. And you gave me the realization that those in the cult probably know less about what they're involved in than anyone. Because they're information is so controlled. How you thought you knew everything about Joseph Smith, but in reality, you knew very little. And I'm noticing it is a universal theme through all the cult's. Thanks so much for helping us understand the reality of the many cult's damaging people right in the faces of law enforcement. ✌️❤️
Thanks so much, Willie! I’m glad it’s helpful. I really do hope to demystify some of what we are going through as far as being kept in the dark and programmed to a degree. It helps us be more compassionate towards those who are still in it. ❤️
Thank you so much to both of you for sharing. This woman’s story is tragic, and she is brave for sharing it on the internet. This podcast is a gift to many, including myself.
I know there is meant to be a seperation between 'church' and state but there has to be some to hold these groups accountable. The fact these groups/churches/ cults have been able to profit and hide their crimes for generations is utterly insane. That is why these types of channels are so important.
Thank You Shelise & Daisy for telling this important message ….Daisy speaking out is the way to expose the evil and you take the power back …..You are very brave and strong and you are loved it is shame you had to go through this … specially as a child .. Scientology is totally the blame ,,,they are awful… sending love
What an beautiful, powerful and kind human Daisy is, THANK YOU for sharing your story. Your words are important and I am so glad that you are in a safer, more held place to be. May you feel the love and support from all of us here wherever you go Daisy. You are amazing! 💜💜💜
No one should ever have to go through this ordeal. As a parent, I can not imagine letting a child of mine grow up in this situation, experiencing this level of guilt and abuse. Her parents were enablers, leading her to believe that she was at fault. Utterly disgusting.
I just love her! I cant even imagine being told the trauma I suffered is my fault. I told myself that for years but to have someone teach that to a child purposely. Im so sorry you had to suffer all those years! Your beauty and light shine bright now! Thank you for sharing!
Cults don’t know what children are on purpose. There’s a reason cults impose hyper control on human sexuality, and why that control on members benefits leaders who have very explicit reasons for needing to redefine what a child is to a group of followers.
Lots of abuse against females and children but at the same time we are all made in the image of god or Jesus or whoever and our creator is all knowing and loves us because he made us lots of contradictions if you ask me
Wait, if a Scientologist believes that you are responsible for your own behaviour, how can he accuse others if he assaults them? This does not add up in my mind.
There are TONS of examples of these contradictions in Scientology. “The tech” chips away at your intuition that is telling (read: yelling at) you that “THIS DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE!” For example, if you question L. Ron Hubbard in your own mind (without sharing with anyone out loud or anything), the next time you’re in at auditing session, you’re going to be asked about any “withholds” (things your aren’t saying) you may have. From there you’ll get into more trouble, just for having been honest. So the takeaway is, never have a critical thought, even if it’s the logical side of your brain telling you the truth, because you’re going to get into more trouble than it’s worth. Also, let’s not forget, more than likely ALL of your friends and family are a part of the organization, your job is most likely tied to the organization, and bringing any of this up could result in you losing everything and everyone you’ve ever known. So you make it make sense, to survive.
I feel as if the damage of being punished and blamed for being sexually abused, then separated from her “family”, what she knew (her family system sounds irredeeming and detractful anyway) was understated here. It is amazing, incredible, rather beyond words, that she can tell her story publicly for the first time with this much and composure and grace, and that she is a functioning adult. Psych and biology are interesting, and the chronic, systemic abuse she endured in so many ways would be enough to render some other souls less productive and capable in life. This hero deserves so much good and reprieve in her life to come.
The intro and then in the story daisy said her parents could send her away or watch her 24/7… I KNEW what their choice would be before she even said… agh it breaks my heart that people are treated like this by their parents.
Daisy, sending you my love, you are truly a beacon of hope to others who are stuck, by speaking out. Sheliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise! I’ve been watching your subscribers go up by the thousands daily and feel so happy for u to be getting recognized for the work you and Jonathan put in to this podcast. Props and thank you.
Daisy, thank you for sharing your story. I'm sure it will help others: Scientologists, under the wire scientologists, and those of us who didn't grow up in a cult but want to be educated so we can speak knowledgably on the subject of abuse inside this cult.
The lack of ‘loving’ physical contact from such a young age will unfortunately affect Daisys’ lifetime. I have heard similar stories from this disgusting SCN ‘religion!!’ But not from such a young age. I am so sorry this happened to you. I’m so glad you are out. Thankfully there are many other YT channel hosts who will support you. Much love to you from a ‘non, never will be’ SP ❤
Daisy, thank you so incredibly much for having the strength and courage to share your story with all of us. 💗 And thank you Shelise for giving Daisy a platform to share her story on and for making it a safe and positive experience for her. 💞 The cult of Scientology can’t lose its tax exempt status swiftly enough and DM needs to be in prison without the possibility of parole.
I am so sorry for your suffering by the cult. I hope you can find a mentor to help you and a trauma specialist for after care even though it has been awhile.
Yeah, I was in here to say that too... In a conversation that could get a Scientology member out... Please please Always mention the aftermath foundation...
@@doctorravenDaisy shared in her own comment that she was denied help because it had been so long since she left Scientology when she reached out for assistance.
When someone tells you there is something wrong with you and then tells you 'you figure out how to fix it' - that is one of the worst kinds of gaslighting someone can do. I have experienced this myself and it is absolute BS.
Why is it that this unconscionable behavior happens in many high maintenance groups? The only way to put a stop to a lot of this stuff is to shine the light of day on it. These groups thrive on secrecy.
Big hug for Daisy. XOXO. Does she know the Degraded Daughters of Dianetics? It might be worth reaching out. Vanessa has studied psychology and does counselling.
DD knows AND LOVES Daisy! We've been chatting for awhile now, and I am so blown away by her bravery and kindness throughout everything. This is Elysia from DD just on my personal channel as I left comments from both DD YT and my personal YT . I am THAT proud 🥲🥹🩷 Love you Daisy!!! The best is yet to come,keep walking in your truth ❤️🔥
OMG! I got hurt very bad from an online support group for desperate people coming off psychiatric drugs,which was run by Scientology( I was not aware then) called Point of Return, which they sold you these expensive useless supplements. When I “ failed” the first drug withdrawal and had to reinstate, and was dropped from the program, screamed at, cold shoulder, like I was such a weak person. You do not treat desperate people like that!
Daisy, my love goes out to you for all of the abuse you experienced because of Scientology. Thank you for speaking out and as experiences such as yours are brought to light to the general public that we pray that something can be done to STOP atrocities such as these.
Daisy, thank you for speaking out. It's your courage and the courage of others that will ultimately end the abuses of this manipulative cult. Thank you Shelise for having her on.
This story of going to a boot camp reminds me a lot of stories told from Indigenous peoples who survived Residential schools. It would be interesting to see you speak to a Residential school survivor to here some of the similarities.
I have a very very severe dislike towards scientology. Daisy you are very brave and I hope your story and your truth will help others get away from that horrific cult.
I hope you consider reporting these crimes. They should NEVER have been allowed to get away with this!! Talk with the FBI (aftermath help?) I read your comment about aftermath not being able to help you. Is that really the case? How awful. I hear you are trying to keep in good standing with your family, is that impacting that decision? I wish you continued support in learning to care for yourself. ❤
Daisy demonstrates incredible resilience. She shows that our inner selves are capable of sensing a fish story when one is heard. It just takes some us (me), longer to realize it!
Hi Shelise and Daisy. ❤ Daisy, I'm so incredibly sorry all this happened to you, and i wish i had a wand to wave and remove your pain and trauma. It is all sooo fucking wrong. That aside, make no mistake, i think you're a star. You have it in you to help others, and that may be your gift. I send you so much love and compassion and, for what it's worth, i admire your strength and courage ♥️. Shelise, you're using what you've been thru to provide a platform or forum for others to share their stories. Another gutsy woman. Love you both. ❤🌹😇
I have been loving your shows. I'm a former priest in a protestant church that allowed and encouraged questions and deep study but i have also seen how people have been so damaged by use of the Bible as a weapon. I hope that you are able to find some brave souls from the Gothard/Quiverfull community to share their stories. It is so prevalent and frightening. Keep up the good work! (From Calgary Canada)
Thank you Daisy for sharing your story. I could hear the pain in your voice. Please take care of yourself. I see you, I honor you, you are worthy ❤️🙏🏻 Shelise, once again you did such a beautiful job guiding the conversation. I know it must have been difficult for you, too. ❤🙏🏻
Sending you so much well-wishing for your journey going forward, Daisy. If I can add a comment - yes, systems can influence people to behave against their character, but... some people are criminal... and predators look for opportunities (and organisations) to act upon their impulses and garner power. Children should be told this WITH the ironclad assurance that we will keep them safe. Hugs xxxx
What a brave young woman for coming forward. Now with Danny Masterson having been convicted of SA, perhaps CoS will start to shift their views on SA, but probably not. Chris Shelton and Tony Ortega have been covering it in depth. Thanks, Shelise and Daisy.
Daisy you are so brave for getting through this and even braver for sharing. I hope both you and Shelise are taking extra good care of yourselves after this one ❤❤
There are no words that you don't already know. But all the same, you deserved so much better than you got, and I am so glad you got yourself out of there.
I’m so sorry for what you’ve gone through in your life and that your parents were not a safe place to go to. You’re doing amazing! Keep loving your self❤
Thank you for sharing, Daisy…. So that we may all better understand. I know you risked so much in doing this, but I hope you can feel the love from the C2C community. ❤️❤️❤️
Wow, she's so strong! I'm so sorry for her going through so much! I wonder if she ever became friends with anyone, when she went to the "camp" at 15? She was talking about being bullied a lot. Do all the kids think it's really her fault for being assaulted? I know, I'll probably never understand.
You don’t choose your family and the worst thing to do is stay in one that is toxic and soul-destroying. It takes a lot of guts to leave an abusive situation. I really hope that Daisy finds a new family; one of her own choosing and one who holds the same values and ideas as she holds. She is very strong and she will get stronger. I wish her well.
Thank you to everyone for your kind comments and support. I am still a bit in shock and have needed some time for it to sink in!
As for me and my situation, I have been unemployed for quite some time due to discrimination in the workplace and have had a hard time keeping jobs with the deaths in my family the past few years.
I did reach out to the Aftermath Foundation. Despite the help they do offer some, they told me they were unable to help me due to how long it’s been since I left. It’s unfortunate because I could really use the help but I’m sure they have their reasons for making decisions.
Thanks again y’all. Life is tough for me but your comments and kindness have made a difference. ❤
Thank you for sharing this, Daisy! It was brave of you to tell your story ❤️
Daisy, your story is both heart-wrenching and inspiring. Thank you for your bravery and vulnerability. I would purchase and read your book. I hope you’ll consider writing and publishing it. 💗
Hi Daisy. Try not to be hard on yourself for struggling to work. I can't hold a job and I didn't even grow up in such a scary awful place. I can imagine you do the same thing I do, and feel like you're not "productive enough" - you're HEALING. That's productive enough.
@@machinegurlll I appreciate that. I’m trying to be kind to myself. Unfortunately healing doesn’t pay the bills and I have no source of financial support while not being able to work. Just gotta keep hoping something comes around. Thanks for the kindness.
@@CultstoConsciousness ❤️ I appreciate you and all you’ve done for me and for others
I'm blown away that this cult is recognized as a religion and given tax exempt status and religious freedom to continue their abuse.
It continues to anger me every time I hear victims stories
I'm shore they pay abundantly someone in the government so Thay can go on eith this. There's no other explanation.
cults happen in public schools too
really? do you know how corrupt your gov is? they are big fans of child sacrifice -- there is a reason why they are protected and it isn't their brainpower....
A phrase that I’ve taken and keep saying is “I’ve learned more about consent in the kink community than I ever did in Christianity.”
It’s truly frightening how that hold true throughout so many cults/religions.
Shelise, you have the most soothing and compassionate demeanor. Thank you for tackling these hard issues with such love
46:50:
If speaking my own truth for the sake of helping others causes my family or other people to disconnect from me, it would truly be horrible, but not as horrible as continuing to live in shame and silence.
WHAT A POWERFUL STATEMENT. Daisy, you deserved better, and you are already shining as it was supposed to be from the beginning.
Well said, by both of you incredible ladies. BRAVO!
I just don't understand how these parents would not protect their own children. I wouldn't let anyone abuse my child and get away with blaming my child. And I would also report them to the authorities, no matter what ANYONE said to me or tried to do to me.
Exactly! 😭
I can't process how they claim when something bad happens to you, that it's YOUR fault but somehow her dad's cancer is Daisy's fault???? Like seriously, pick a struggle and stick to it, I can't believe the inconsistencies and that's the least of the horrors she just shared 😢
Such a GREAT observation and point. Makes no sense whatsoever.
Daisy, you are so brave to share your story. Thank you for standing up as I know there has to be so many who still can’t speak !
I’m trying to get on this channel to share my story, do you know how to do it
Germany denied Scientology the church status. They are not considered a religion here, but seen as a potentially dangerous group.
Oh no, this is horrific. So brave, and i feel honoured that you chose to share it with us first. Shalise was the best choice for this. You're safe with her ❤
🥹🥰 thank you. That means a lot! She did a wonderful job and I’m so proud of her.
@@CultstoConsciousness ♥️
@@CultstoConsciousnessI really wanna be a guest on your video, how do you do that?
There is a link in my about section that leads to a guest application 😁
@@CultstoConsciousness cool, thank you so much 😊
DAISY!!!! WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOU! SO DAMN PROUD OF YOU!!!❤❤ Degraded Daughters has your back, always!!! -Elysia & Vanessa
What the actual... You're so strong to be able to come on and expose such a horrific cult. I'm sure it'll stop people in the future making a huge mistake ❤
Oh Daisy. I'm so sorry for what you have been through. I just want to give you a hug and tell you to hold your head high. You did nothing wrong. You were the victim and I would love to see those people suffer the consequences for what they have done
Daisy's story is truly horrific and she tells it with grace and dignity. I commend her for finding those aspects within herself after a childhood so traumatic. These conversations are so important for bringing awareness and shedding light on these damaging practices and beliefs. Another great interview Shelise!
I've heard many horrific stories about scientology (Kelli Copter) and this one made me cry. I am so, so sorry you went through this..SP won a major victory with the Danny Masterson conviction, may this be the thread that causes the unraveling of the cult of scientology!🤬 Hi OSA
Danny Masterson update
41:23 GUILTY and in jail awaiting sentencing. Justice for the Janes! ❤
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Wow. Just wow. I want so much for Daisy to have a bright future. I hope the right person to help bring this about sees this episode. I think I can speak for most of us-Daisy, you are loved. Learning to love yourself is difficult for many of us, but it is incredibly important.
The abuse of children in these cults is the main reason there needs to be legislation against them-and we have to directly fight them to achieve that.
How convenient, blame everything on the child. That’s so messed up.
Thank you for sharing your experiences in the cos. You are very brave.
Wishing you the very best 🌈
My heart broke while listening this! 💔💔💔 I didn't know Scientology is so bad! I didn't know anything about it except that some celebrities are their members...
I appreciate this platform, you’re doing great work
My heart breaks for these people. I think their parents have let them down and not done their job as a parent should, by protecting their kids.
Im so proud of you Daisy!!! Ripping off the band aid of scientology victim blaming /shaming. I hope it is healing to be able to share your experiences freely! I am proud to know you,and proud to watch you walk in your truths! Love you friend! 💝🫶😘
Such a courageous woman.
The stories of COS abuse never seem to stop .
Daisy ❤ you were a child, and what happened to you was not your fault. I'm sorry you went through so much hell, and I'm sorry your parents, your family, weren't the ones who helped you. You are so strong and beautiful, and please keep on keeping on. ❤
no victim should ever be blamed for the sexual abuse that happens to them
Love your content Shelise. Yesterday I had to drive a couple of hundred miles to a Dr and back and thoroughly enjoyed your first interview with your Mom. It came up in my feed after seeing you interview several different people, and your interview with Aaron. I would definitely recommend it to anyone else interested interested in your content. It was really amazing, and brave you two could discuss the trauma your family has known for several generations. I thought deprogramming from my upbringing in the 70s was a lifelong lesson. Your's is quite incredible. And you gave me the realization that those in the cult probably know less about what they're involved in than anyone. Because they're information is so controlled. How you thought you knew everything about Joseph Smith, but in reality, you knew very little. And I'm noticing it is a universal theme through all the cult's. Thanks so much for helping us understand the reality of the many cult's damaging people right in the faces of law enforcement. ✌️❤️
Thanks so much, Willie! I’m glad it’s helpful. I really do hope to demystify some of what we are going through as far as being kept in the dark and programmed to a degree. It helps us be more compassionate towards those who are still in it. ❤️
@@CultstoConsciousness right. Most are just trying to be the best person they can be with the information given. Shows how powerful knowledge is.
What a lovely person Daisy seems to be. Great interview. Wishing her all the best and miraculous healing from all she spoke of. 💗💗💗
I send my support and admiration to Daisy. Thank you for sharing your story. I SEE YOU.
Thank you so much to both of you for sharing. This woman’s story is tragic, and she is brave for sharing it on the internet. This podcast is a gift to many, including myself.
I know there is meant to be a seperation between 'church' and state but there has to be some to hold these groups accountable. The fact these groups/churches/ cults have been able to profit and hide their crimes for generations is utterly insane. That is why these types of channels are so important.
Thank You Shelise & Daisy for telling this important message ….Daisy speaking out is the way to expose the evil and you take the power back …..You are very brave and strong and you are loved it is shame you had to go through this … specially as a child .. Scientology is totally the blame ,,,they are awful… sending love
What an beautiful, powerful and kind human Daisy is, THANK YOU for sharing your story. Your words are important and I am so glad that you are in a safer, more held place to be. May you feel the love and support from all of us here wherever you go Daisy. You are amazing! 💜💜💜
No one should ever have to go through this ordeal. As a parent, I can not imagine letting a child of mine grow up in this situation, experiencing this level of guilt and abuse. Her parents were enablers, leading her to believe that she was at fault. Utterly disgusting.
As always, such a great interview. Daisy, thank you for your courage and sharing the most painful parts to education and bring awareness.
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Im from new Mexico and i always thought scientology was far away from me so its crazy she was so close to me
I just love her!
I cant even imagine being told the trauma I suffered is my fault. I told myself that for years but to have someone teach that to a child purposely. Im so sorry you had to suffer all those years!
Your beauty and light shine bright now! Thank you for sharing!
XD "Is this the Listen Linda part?" That was very cute
Cults don’t know what children are on purpose. There’s a reason cults impose hyper control on human sexuality, and why that control on members benefits leaders who have very explicit reasons for needing to redefine what a child is to a group of followers.
😢 I am constantly horrified by the extreme misogyny exhibited by SO MANY religious organizations. Sending so much love and light to the victims.
It should be prosecuted really... Sexist religious should be treated as terrorists organisations
Lots of abuse against females and children but at the same time we are all made in the image of god or Jesus or whoever and our creator is all knowing and loves us because he made us lots of contradictions if you ask me
i knew scientology was weird but am just learning that it is criminally insane.
Wait, if a Scientologist believes that you are responsible for your own behaviour, how can he accuse others if he assaults them? This does not add up in my mind.
There are TONS of examples of these contradictions in Scientology. “The tech” chips away at your intuition that is telling (read: yelling at) you that “THIS DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE!” For example, if you question L. Ron Hubbard in your own mind (without sharing with anyone out loud or anything), the next time you’re in at auditing session, you’re going to be asked about any “withholds” (things your aren’t saying) you may have. From there you’ll get into more trouble, just for having been honest. So the takeaway is, never have a critical thought, even if it’s the logical side of your brain telling you the truth, because you’re going to get into more trouble than it’s worth. Also, let’s not forget, more than likely ALL of your friends and family are a part of the organization, your job is most likely tied to the organization, and bringing any of this up could result in you losing everything and everyone you’ve ever known. So you make it make sense, to survive.
Daisy, you are a strong, brave, beautiful person. So glad you are with us here in reality ❤
Good morning ladies!
I feel as if the damage of being punished and blamed for being sexually abused, then separated from her “family”, what she knew (her family system sounds irredeeming and detractful anyway) was understated here. It is amazing, incredible, rather beyond words, that she can tell her story publicly for the first time with this much and composure and grace, and that she is a functioning adult. Psych and biology are interesting, and the chronic, systemic abuse she endured in so many ways would be enough to render some other souls less productive and capable in life. This hero deserves so much good and reprieve in her life to come.
Daisy, that was so courageous of you, so brave. Thank you for sharing your story. Yes, you're helping.
An example of breathtaking courage! Thank you Daisy!
The intro and then in the story daisy said her parents could send her away or watch her 24/7… I KNEW what their choice would be before she even said… agh it breaks my heart that people are treated like this by their parents.
Same here. I KNEW what their selfish choice would be. Makes me sick to my stomach. 😱
Daisy, sending you my love, you are truly a beacon of hope to others who are stuck, by speaking out.
Sheliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise! I’ve been watching your subscribers go up by the thousands daily and feel so happy for u to be getting recognized for the work you and Jonathan put in to this podcast. Props and thank you.
Thank you so much!! We are truly honored that this many people want to be a part of the movement 🙌
Daisy, thank you for sharing your story. I'm sure it will help others: Scientologists, under the wire scientologists, and those of us who didn't grow up in a cult but want to be educated so we can speak knowledgably on the subject of abuse inside this cult.
The lack of ‘loving’ physical contact from such a young age will unfortunately affect Daisys’ lifetime. I have heard similar stories from this disgusting SCN ‘religion!!’ But not from such a young age. I am so sorry this happened to you. I’m so glad you are out. Thankfully there are many other YT channel hosts who will support you. Much love to you from a ‘non, never will be’ SP ❤
Daisy, thank you so incredibly much for having the strength and courage to share your story with all of us. 💗 And thank you Shelise for giving Daisy a platform to share her story on and for making it a safe and positive experience for her. 💞 The cult of Scientology can’t lose its tax exempt status swiftly enough and DM needs to be in prison without the possibility of parole.
I am so sorry for your suffering by the cult. I hope you can find a mentor to help you and a trauma specialist for after care even though it has been awhile.
Oh wow my heart hurts for you Daisy and strength and compassion for your continuing healing journey ❤️ 😢
The aftermath foundation is there for anyone who's trying to leave
This comment needs to be pinned to the top.
Yeah, I was in here to say that too...
In a conversation that could get a Scientology member out... Please please Always mention the aftermath foundation...
@@doctorravenDaisy shared in her own comment that she was denied help because it had been so long since she left Scientology when she reached out for assistance.
When someone tells you there is something wrong with you and then tells you 'you figure out how to fix it' - that is one of the worst kinds of gaslighting someone can do. I have experienced this myself and it is absolute BS.
Why is it that this unconscionable behavior happens in many high maintenance groups?
The only way to put a stop to a lot of this stuff is to shine the light of day on it. These groups thrive on secrecy.
What a heavy, but incredible story. Thank you Daisy for sharing and thank you Shalise as always for giving a platform to survivors 🖤
Big hug for Daisy. XOXO. Does she know the Degraded Daughters of Dianetics? It might be worth reaching out. Vanessa has studied psychology and does counselling.
DD knows AND LOVES Daisy! We've been chatting for awhile now, and I am so blown away by her bravery and kindness throughout everything.
This is Elysia from DD just on my personal channel as I left comments from both DD YT and my personal YT . I am THAT proud 🥲🥹🩷
Love you Daisy!!! The best is yet to come,keep walking in your truth ❤️🔥
I like how real this conversation is.
OMG! I got hurt very bad from an online support group for desperate people coming off psychiatric drugs,which was run by Scientology( I was not aware then) called Point of Return, which they sold you these expensive useless supplements. When I “ failed” the first drug withdrawal and had to reinstate, and was dropped from the program, screamed at, cold shoulder, like I was such a weak person. You do not treat desperate people like that!
Daisy, my love goes out to you for all of the abuse you experienced because of Scientology. Thank you for speaking out and as experiences such as yours are brought to light to the general public that we pray that something can be done to STOP atrocities such as these.
Daisy, thank you for speaking out. It's your courage and the courage of others that will ultimately end the abuses of this manipulative cult. Thank you Shelise for having her on.
This story of going to a boot camp reminds me a lot of stories told from Indigenous peoples who survived Residential schools. It would be interesting to see you speak to a Residential school survivor to here some of the similarities.
Why are they, Scientology investigated for child labor laws?
I have a very very severe dislike towards scientology. Daisy you are very brave and I hope your story and your truth will help others get away from that horrific cult.
What a horrific cult. Unbelievable. Sorry for what happened to this woman.
I felt her Linda listen. Thank u Shelise for the platform you provide for everyone that comes on ❤
I hope you consider reporting these crimes. They should NEVER have been allowed to get away with this!! Talk with the FBI (aftermath help?)
I read your comment about aftermath not being able to help you. Is that really the case? How awful. I hear you are trying to keep in good standing with your family, is that impacting that decision?
I wish you continued support in learning to care for yourself. ❤
Daisy demonstrates incredible resilience. She shows that our inner selves are capable of sensing a fish story when one is heard. It just takes some us (me), longer to realize it!
Thanks for telling your story Daisy. Best wishes to you.
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
I wish you growth in your healing and as much joy as you can grab! You are a Queen thank you ♥️
These videos have opened my eyes so much. Thank you to both of you for sharing.
Good morning 🙏
Hi Shelise and Daisy. ❤ Daisy, I'm so incredibly sorry all this happened to you, and i wish i had a wand to wave and remove your pain and trauma. It is all sooo fucking wrong. That aside, make no mistake, i think you're a star. You have it in you to help others, and that may be your gift. I send you so much love and compassion and, for what it's worth, i admire your strength and courage ♥️. Shelise, you're using what you've been thru to provide a platform or forum for others to share their stories. Another gutsy woman. Love you both. ❤🌹😇
I have been loving your shows. I'm a former priest in a protestant church that allowed and encouraged questions and deep study but i have also seen how people have been so damaged by use of the Bible as a weapon. I hope that you are able to find some brave souls from the Gothard/Quiverfull community to share their stories. It is so prevalent and frightening. Keep up the good work! (From Calgary Canada)
Thank you Daisy for sharing your story. I could hear the pain in your voice. Please take care of yourself. I see you, I honor you, you are worthy ❤️🙏🏻
Shelise, once again you did such a beautiful job guiding the conversation. I know it must have been difficult for you, too. ❤🙏🏻
Thankyou Daisy. You are so strong and brave. You're kicking goals and don't give up
Love your philosophy of life, being gentle, kind, immersed in nature. It speaks to my heart as well
Sending you so much well-wishing for your journey going forward, Daisy. If I can add a comment - yes, systems can influence people to behave against their character, but... some people are criminal... and predators look for opportunities (and organisations) to act upon their impulses and garner power. Children should be told this WITH the ironclad assurance that we will keep them safe. Hugs xxxx
What a brave young woman for coming forward. Now with Danny Masterson having been convicted of SA, perhaps CoS will start to shift their views on SA, but probably not. Chris Shelton and Tony Ortega have been covering it in depth. Thanks, Shelise and Daisy.
Proud of you Daisy. Way to go!
Beautiful job by both precious ladies 💗💕
talk about bravery... hats off...
Daisy you are so brave for getting through this and even braver for sharing. I hope both you and Shelise are taking extra good care of yourselves after this one ❤❤
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
Wow. Just wow. I admire you for telling the truth.
I'm in the first, ten minutes of this video. I do not know the details of scientology, but it really sounds like a scary belief system.
Poor daisy what happened to was never her fault shame on the people who blamed her for her own sexual assault
thank you daisy for sharing your story
Love your interview skills, Shelise!
There are no words that you don't already know. But all the same, you deserved so much better than you got, and I am so glad you got yourself out of there.
I’m so sorry for what you’ve gone through in your life and that your parents were not a safe place to go to. You’re doing amazing! Keep loving your self❤
Thank you for sharing, Daisy…. So that we may all better understand. I know you risked so much in doing this, but I hope you can feel the love from the C2C community. ❤️❤️❤️
i feel like i would by happy to be disconnected from parents like that. i would take it as bonus
Wow, she's so strong! I'm so sorry for her going through so much! I wonder if she ever became friends with anyone, when she went to the "camp" at 15? She was talking about being bullied a lot. Do all the kids think it's really her fault for being assaulted? I know, I'll probably never understand.
She went to the camp at age 12.
💪🐻❤️ Very Cool! Keep speaking up, no matter how much you don't want to. Just start talking! You have a story!
You don’t choose your family and the worst thing to do is stay in one that is toxic and soul-destroying. It takes a lot of guts to leave an abusive situation. I really hope that Daisy finds a new family; one of her own choosing and one who holds the same values and ideas as she holds. She is very strong and she will get stronger. I wish her well.
😩😩😩😩it’s so painful
Ngl the past few weeks I’ve been checking YT even more often than I normally do bc I’m always awaiting a new upload from CTC 😅
Great interview