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My favourite saying is "I dont have a problem with God, its his followers that p*ss me off!" Or is it "...his fan club that p*ss me off"? Hm, i forgot. But it was a good saying😅🤦
As a queer person, predators are predators and should be taken seriously whatever gender or sexuality. Also a video came across my recommendations a few weeks ago from a women who's still pretty fundie, but she was talking about leaving an IFB church because they had protected a man she didn't feel her children were safe around, to discover they have a whole group of lawyers to protect predators in court, its terrifying
@@CultstoConsciousness and it should be the truest believers who are most disgusted, but of course they're usually being lied to. She only found out about this man on a fundie snark forum, basically said feel free to snark on me because you guys did good
Even small churches can be used by a couple who claims one is Satan openly and killed their own child and no one in the justice system cared. They not only were not arrested but they now have the custody of a 4 year old and 3 are still in emergency placement at their bio father's home.
absolutely. ive seen so many disgusting things from other queer people and ive seen people who want to try to cover it up so "we" don't "look bad" and its disgusting. people of all gender identities and sexualities can be creeps, abusers, r*pists, and cultists, and they all gotta be flushed out everywhere they are.
I agree so disturbing 😞 . I'm literally I'm shock because it was her own mom. As a mom of 2 daughters it strikes a harder chord in My soul hearing this awful abuse.
That's where the narcissism more comes into it, I think. The children are being used as currency, but also to gain prestige. Her mother wanted the free piano lessons to have children who were musically accomplished, as she didn't want her reputation tarnished but elevated. She says her dad would've been upset had he known, which gives another layer of secrecy with which I don't think you usually see.
Parents are MOSTERS too. People like to describe horrible people like animals. Animals don't hate, use, abuse, don't have Religions, don't declare wars. ALL MONSTERS HAVE A HUMAN FACE!
There's parents who care for and love their children to grow and learn and become their own person...and there's owners. People who think that their children are their property, a burden, and to be used.
Isami-San,I'm also a haffu with a Japanese mom who was also very toxic and controlling of every aspect of my life. Since I was a small child, my mom used to tell me that she expected me to stay "pure"/virgin until I was married. I didn't didn't know what she was talking about at the age of 4 or 5. Sex education wasn't allowed in our home as well as certain cartoons and TV shows. I was physically and emotionally abused daily. I didn't even know what was happening to my body when my body started to change to the point of when I 1st had my menstrual cycle. The only thing she told me was to keep myself clean and this will happen once a month and now I can become pregnant so no talking to boys. Wtf. She sign the papers for me in 6th grade to sit in class to watch a film about "body changes" bcz my mom refused to talk about it. When I was 17 yrs old, I was allowed to go on my 1st date but it had to be with another couple, never alone with a strict curfew back home bcz I might lose my "precious gift" that's for husband. She even took me to the Dr's to make sure I was still a virgin until I was 18 yrs old. After I turned 18,I was kicked out bcz they couldn't legally control me anymore. Freedom at last but I didn't have any life skills. It was rough but I was finally happy.
Wow that sounds awful! I’m so sorry you went through that. We did a whole episode just before Isami on the dangers of purity culture. You may find it helpful ❤
M husband is from Japan and what he an I have both noticed is that when Japanese get into cults, they get in really deep, really fast. Rules following is big in their culture. We lost a few Japanese friends that fell into cults. JW and Amway. It’s crazy. My husband was born a rule breaker and in japan that’s not good. So he traveled the world and we met. We are both so anti rules, live life outside the lines!
So do Koreans. I was watching a documentary recently on Netflix about the JMS cult, and I noted the same tendency in Korea too. That documentary also featured other cults, like the Baby Garden and another church whose name I can't remember. It was disturbing how these innocent people could get so trapped in evil organizations, in part because conformity and intense pressure to follow the rules is such a big part of their culture. As an aside, long ago, my hubby studied Japanese with the intention of moving there to teach English someday. But he couldn't stand the conformity of Japanese culture (he's a natural-born rebel). There are things he continues to admire about Japanese culture, but going over there would have driven him crazy.
Oh my God!! Amway is a cult? My childhood was awful. It was nothing like Isami but still awful. My parents, mainly my dad, a few of his brothers started amway. I had a couple of friends who's parents were doing amway as well. This is blowing my mind right now!!
@@Chronically_Kimberly it’s a pyramid scheme or mlm, but it becomes all encompassing. I had Japanese friends and an American co-worker go down the Amway hole. Everything becomes Amway. Oh you’re having a party, can I give an Amway talk? NO. It was obnoxious. I said I may buy something from you, but do not try to shovel your pyramid scheme to me. I have no time to harass people to join. You make more money the more people you get to join. It’s horrible. Of course Amway says they aren’t a pyramid scheme or an mlm but a lifestyle/home business. LoL
Our church (UPCI) which is about the same level of cult as Mormon on the Boyd Scale, had many Filipinos in my local church. I think they like the structure, but I don't know. When they come in, they get super involved, super fast. They pick up the "dress standard" (rules for how to dress) very quickly. It's interesting because culture really does affect how quickly people conform. It's interesting how culture can prepare us to accept or reject cults.
Its genuinely a case where cishet men are harmed by their gender and sexuality, there's less resources or even awareness that men can be abused. If its brought up, its usually just incels who want to use it to silence women, instead of actually work on dismantling rape culture
Speaking as a Queer person, I appreciate Isami's support of my community. I'm so sorry for what happened to her. And just to be extremely clear, p*dos are not welcome in our community. At all. I"m so glad that she has gotten some skilled therapy, and sounds like she's healing. It's so heartbreaking that she felt like she was at fault. It's so impressive that she's speaking out publicly on this platform, as well as her own.
@@Qrtuop TERFs and other bigots aren’t welcome in the Queer Community either. (Or do you also misunderstand TERF to be a slur as well?) Reclaimed words have even more power for ostracized groups. Don’t you dare try to police my language while excluding parts of the community intentionally with that bigoted term, ffs. The hypocrisy is through the roof. FYI to any cishet normies (I mean that lovingly and respectfully, btw) reading this and maybe thinking I’m overreacting- “Queer” has been reclaimed at least since the 90s when I was growing up, whereas “LGB” specifically is intentionally used by bigoted queer people who are trying to subtly exclude Trans people. It’s a dogwhistle that many straight folks who aren’t super knowledgeable on the topic may not be aware of. Though it’s directed at Trans and NB people, they’re also excluding Intersex, Asexual, as well as Gender Queer, others who identify just as “Queer,” and everyone else in the “+”-like 2Spirited people and other nuanced or traditional identities. While groups of people. You don’t have to list every single letter, that’s why we use the plus sign. To indicate it includes our whole community. That sort of bigotry and exclusion is not welcome in the LGBTQIA+ Community. But, just to be clear, it’s also totally fine to just say LGBT+ or Queer, or even LGBTQ bc in that context the “Q” is the placeholder for the rest of the community, just like when I use the term “Queer” to refer to all of us. The only people we exclude are p*dos and bigots. The whole point is to accept those who are different to ourselves as long as they aren’t hurting anyone. You can still be gay without the community claiming you. There’s a small subsection of bigoted queer folks joining in the horrifying movement against Trans people happening right now. I have absolutely no tolerance for the hate implied by the use of the dogwhistle “LGB Community.” Maybe that’s what they call their little hate cult, but don’t ever imply it’s the same community we’re referring to with “Queer” or “LGBTQ+” because we don’t want that bigotry here. We’re all working on our unintended, subconscious issues that are unavoidable in such a systematically bigoted society. We don’t accept that sort of intentional discrimination and hate. Especially not against trans folks when we’re in the beginnings of what may become a full-blown genocide if we don’t fight it tooth and nail everywhere. But most vociferously in anyone who’s queer.
The church I grew up in called themselves Freewill Baptist, but it sounds almost identical. I was also a pastor's kid. It is so weird looking back and realizing how messed up my upbringing really was. Congrats girl! We made it out! ❤
I now have a word describing what happened with me when I was ten years old. My Mom allowed me to go on a ten day trip alone with a man she barely knew. She had left her abusive husband in the fifties taking her six young children with her. She was without a place to stay. She met a Hispanic man in a park who took us to his small shack. I was allowed to go pick crops with him alone. He would touch me sexually in front of her. She did nothing but knew what was going on. A year later when she asked for details of what he did to me, her reply was, "Sometimes little girls let things happen to them because they want attention." I will never forget the weird smile on her face when she said that. She was soaking a bathtub of hot water smirking as she heard the details of how he "hurt" me. Hurt was her word. As I got older, there were other things set up but not to the same degree as rape.
@@donnaatkinson2562 I genuinely hope you’re healing and are alright. It doesn’t mean much from a stranger like I am, but you’re amazing. Not every parent deserves a child. I’m so sorry for what happened to you and hope for much more love and light in your life ❤
Thank you...I have been through a lot of therapy to help piece my fragmented compartmentalized life. I found relief and peace of mind through my relationship with nature, art, gardening and writing as well as photography. It has been a learning experience. I am writing a memoir to share my story with the intention of empowering other females in my family. The issue is how do I give the details of what happened without gratuitous exploitation of the facts by some predator? Also, how does the story get told without triggering and retraumatizing the women and girls that mean so much to me. The fact is this still goes on in my family but even more hidden and silent behind fundamentalist Christian practices. I was shocked when I became aware of how some of my nieces have been controlled and abused. Time to wake up. Maybe that is the purpose of the life I have lived.
Can I say she seems like a 10/10 human. Kind. Considerate. Self aware. All around good vibes. I bet she’d be a great friend and an awesome person to have on your side.
As someone who grew up Baptist, it took until my adult life to realize how vastly different Baptist churches can be. Mine was relatively conservative, but nothing like the IFB. It was shocking knowing how bad it can get.
My Southern Baptist Church in Metro-Atlanta silenced child SA victims. The abuse was by members, not church leadership, but the church enabled it claiming "the church has a right to protect itself" from gossip and scandal. Abusive donors, basically adult criminals, were favored over children being victimized. Victims were told they must forgive.
Yes, I grew up in Baptist churches. The one I went to from 5-12 was a Fundamental Baptist church and was much like she described (at least the basics). Other Baptist churches I went to were not like this one.
Oh, my goodness. I experienced this. I thought my parents had nothing to do with it. The man said into his tape recorder what happened during our meeting leaving out the molestation. Then I thought the tape recording was proof or documentation. I felt so defeated. This stinks. You don't have to be super attractive to be molested. My step father was related to this man. I used to think why did these people do this to me as I'm not beautiful. We look better than we think as they destroyed our self-esteem.
These sick predators don’t necessarily pick victims based on looks- they know who to target and who is not as rebellious or outspoken… it’s awful Also, if the child is from an at risk/dysfunctional household
ooph.. I was told that by my french teacher... ("you will live under a bridge") Because I didn't "respect him" (aka, was unattentive/had adhd). Cannot imagine how it must be to have a parent tell you these horrible things. Thank you for this Interview. You are awesome!
I don’t know what it was about this guest - sometimes you can feel a bit despairing about human nature when you hear these stories - but I found her attitude and presentation so uplifting! After having such a difficult, horrible and wrong start in life - I wish her nothing but the best x
Your channel deserves 100K subscribers…watching this video, I feel like I’m part of an intimate, intelligent conversation between two women with shared experiences. Although the subject matter is difficult to hear, it is handled with grace and compassion. ❤️🙏🏽
I absolutely agree! I think it was one of the Mormon polygamy videos that I watched first (my partner and I are polyamorous, and he had a whirl in Mormonism, though he left because it was"too culty"), and I've been watching several episodes a week since then. Shelise's compassion and encouragement gets me every time!
I once asked my mom when I was a teenager, "Why couldn't we be a normal family?" I remember she got offended about it and said that if we were a "normal" family then her and my stepdad would be divorced. That's one of the things that mainly sticks out.
This is up there with how do atheists know what's right or wrong. If the only thing stopping you harming others or forcing you to stay in a relationship is fear of divine retribution, its not actually a good thing
It’s crazy that the airline essentially turned a blind eye to it. Planes need some sort of police force of their own. But realistically we know too many of these organization and businesses CHOSE to turn a blind eye.
You have helped me understand my Mom. I never understood her lying to people about me or Why I was the scapegoat of the family. I never understood why my siblings would trade places as her favorite. I have been asking this question all my life. Today you taught me that I am not alone. This weird shit happened to other people. The explanation is Mom is a narcissist. Accept for the religious aspects and the trading me for music lessons. My Mom's behavior was exactly like Isami Daehn's Mom. Thank you for sharing your story. You have freed me from a terrible mystery and from feeling alone.
In therapy I had a similar experience about narcissists. I called my parent a narcissist and the therapist was like hang on you can just say something loosely and we went over the questions and the therapist gets quiet and was like ... maybe you are right. 😂 thanks. I genuinely don't and even try not to be around folks who use it loosely. One it makes me feel invalidated and two mental health shouldn't be joked about nor villinized.
I am queer myself, and you are absolutely able to speak out against predators. Thank you so much for understanding that they are not apart of our community. I would gladly kick her ass, she is definitely not allowed in. It is not okay.
How sad that her mom sold their daughter out like that for some free piano lessons and to keep up appearances. Sometimes I wonder if churches have done more harm than good overall. I feel proud of Isami for getting help to overcome all that trauma that so wasn't her fault and for being such a caring, compassionate person. So much light shines through her eyes! ❤ I appreciate her sharing her story. Also, I wonder if the pilot maybe knew that international trafficker and it wasn't the first time? There are definitely enablers in positions of power who look the other way. There has to be.
Keeping up appearances is big in Japan and other East Asian countries. Being a Chinese-American, I've seen so many examples of how damaging keeping appearances and saving face can be, especially to children, who are treated as subordinate to their parents and as trophies for their parents to show off.
When you both shared the freedom to ‘cuss’, and the t-shirt idea, I instantly remembered that there is an actual bumper sticker that says ( my husband saw this), “Jesus Loves You, everyone else thinks you’re an asshole”. Wow😂
Shelise, what I value most about your channel is how you beautifully validate the pain and suffering your guests share. You verbalize & demonstrate such genuine empathy. Its wonderfully healing and creates such a safe space for trauma survivors. Never lose that amazing empathy.
I dated a narcissist for about 5 years, and it really was a little like being in a cult. Isami, I wish you hadn't had to go through that--especially being trafficked by your own mother. Now that I've watched the entire episode, you've gained my utmost respect!
At 24:00, you mentioned that from the outside, narcissistic people appear perfect because their children aren't "disrespectful" and it made me think about how often as a teacher I've told a parent about their child's behavior and they would tell me their child was never disrespectful toward them, and then they would recommend that I do something unethical (social isolation for a long time period, eg.). All I can think is their kids must have felt so much safer in my classroom than at home to behave the way they did in my classroom.
You see it a lot with dogs too, people tend to confuse biddability with intelligence and fawning for well behaved dogs. So a german shepherd falling over itself to please its owner smart, wonderful dog, a husky bred for intelligent disobedience that tells you to go screw yourself but can break into anything that has food must be stupid
"The pastor's favorite family" was something I strongly witnessed in my last church before leaving. The cliques are real! As much as I disapprove of the narcissist in my life, I also feel bad for them because the self loathing is real. I wish they'd chosen therapy and healing from their own childhood traumas rather than the twisted bs they inflicted on their family
I’m so excited Isami and yourself got to do an interview together!! I just clicked on your latest video, as I have been doing daily in the last few weeks (such great content)… and then -double take- “Wait a minute! I know this person 😮!!”. She’s such an incredible advocate against Human Trafficking in the aviation industry. I really look up to her and what she has to teach us about that overlooked subject. Plus, she used to be a Flight Attendants… FA are badass people to start with 😎.
Isami, you have a beautiful spirit!! ❤ It was very informative listening to you. Thank you for being such a great advocate against familial trafficking. ❤
Thank you Isami for sharing your story. I am so sorry to hear about the physical abuse you were forced to endure as well as the emotional and spiritual abuse at the very hands of the humans that were supposed to protect you. I appreciate your bravery and honesty.
I, too, have found cursing to be therapeutic. I wasn't allowed to be angry as a child and giving myself permission to express anger was (and is) incredibly freeing.
I totally understand why many who are raised in cults forsake religion altogether, but man is it nice to hear from someone who is able to navigate between their cult and their faith so intricately. Very cool episode.
Thank you, I love watching your videos. Very therapeutic to me, married to a narcissist for 21+ years, brainwashed into patriarchal Christian mindset. Working on my personal healing, deconstruction, and plan to “escape”. Please keep up the great work! ❤️
I was in the same type of marriage for 18 years! Ex was a narcissist who took me to this Baptist church on PURPOSE because he knew they had were dogmatic about a “women’s place”. I’ve been divorced from him for 18 years this month 🙏🏼- praying and sending strength to you. You can do this!!!!
What a beautiful brave heart. I appreciate her telling the story of her imprisonment inside that Baptist Fundamentalist Independent cult. All the best for living free and experiencing joy the rest of her life.
I'm so infinitely sorry for this girl what she had gone through with her parents telling her she's not smart enough and all the abuse they did to her. My parents also told me as a child that I was not smart enough and my mother even called me retarded. This was very traumatizing and left me growing up with low self esteem and fear of giving presentations in school.
I can't get over the inaction from the Captain or flight leader in the story. With that level of incompetence/ inaction, it isn't surprising that this sort of thing is more common than we think!! So sad. Thankyou to Isami for sharing her story.
Thank you to this amazing brave woman for sharing her story and her recovery. She is an inspiration, not because of what was inflicted on her, but on the ways she is helping others because of it.
You two are such beautiful people. The way you handled trauma in a way that there is still the light shining from within, the genuine smile, the unimaginable strength!!! You are role models!
Thank you for this episode and for sharing your story. I grew up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. I thought I was alone with calling it a cult. So glad to see people are speaking out about this group too.
Thank you so much for this. I resonate so much with a lot of what was said here, especially about narcissistic parental control and abuse... I've written down so many things and quotes from this video! In my notebook that is growing from all the quotes I have from the Cults to Consciousness channel!! It's really REALLY been helping me to realise and come to fully understand what I've been through growing up my entire life. It's really difficult to realise these things but now that I have and am, it's so very healing. Thank you so much. Also absolutely YES to the t-shirt!! The "f*ck you, Amen" haha! I'd deffo buy that! Love from England ❤
The funniest thing is when the narcissist knows you know. They keep trying to brainwash you again. Then they get mad when we can't. I told one at church that her new friend seems good for her. I said that I was sorry we had clashed but iron sharpens iron and we can learn from each other. She blocked me. Now I don't have to deal with her. She regrets it as she enjoyed the sniping. You can't get along with these nuts or even be cordial. I tried to accept the snide remarks and be like Jesus, but I was not allowed to mention the tension as she wanted it hidden under the radar as her gaslighting.
What a well-spoken and intelligent lady Miss Isami is. So sad what she endured by the hands of her own parents. I hope she finds healing and realizes how sweet and incredibly strong she really is. 🙏🏻🌻🌸❤️
People who are not raised by narcissists cannot relate how a person feels like he/she IS a part of the narcissistic abuser. It is hard to get away when you are an appendage of another Person.
I’ve seen Isami’s social media but stopped halfway through because it was too triggering but was able to listen to the end. This type of abuse what happens within the family stays in the family type of toxic dynamic is very common amongst Japanese households. You might think mixed kids who have a western parent would have the best of both worlds but in reality, they’re far more likely to get abused since homogeneous countries tend to stay away from anything they don’t know, thus the problem never becomes public. I know people who are religiously/culturally abused especially the Muslim girls because foreigners aren’t deemed to have the same rights as Japanese kids so they’re not protected by the system, CPS won’t help and there’s not much to do. There’s so many half western half Japanese cult survivors/one family cult survivors especially in the countryside which has twisted historical/cultural context so I’d send you people I’d recommend if you don’t mind, thank you.
I grew up in a Baptist church & went to Baptist school for a short while. This has brought back so many memories of the garbage i was told to think & believe. I really like that Isami said "is it from your heart or what you've been told". I started doing this years ago & I've been much happier with my decisions ♥
An absolutely heartbreaking story from this brave, courageous human. I have massive respect for Isami turning her horrific childhood experiences into a platform to help others.
As a piano teacher and an ally, I am SO sorry that this happened to you. I consider my studio as a safe space for anyone and it is horrific to me that anyone would violate that trusted bond and space to harm you. I can't even imagine.
Wow. What an amazing conversation. Being brought up JW and added mind control by my mother. A double whammy. I did not have physical abuse but every word is so beautifully expressed. I'm so glad I'm not alone. Tx for sharing your story so eloquently
Thank you for sharing Isami, good job seeing the red flags. It seems like we're doing the work in therapy, super clear retelling of your experience with what was driving your parents fd up actions.
I used to live next door to an abusive family… it was so difficult. Police came regularly but nothing ever helped. There were two young boys and I wanted to be able to save them so badly. It hurts so much when you see kids going through the abuse you remember going through. There was nothing I could do to help… One day when I had the crushing sense of hopelessness about the abuse I realized that inside I was projecting how much pain I went through and I was really wishing someone would have saved me as a kid. The pain that I pushed down and just turned into distancing myself wells up when I think about other kids and wanting to help them. I wish I were doing something to help abused kids but all I have been able to do is try and end the cycle with my child (an impossible task as I am not the only parent. . . ) I just try to be a good person and not hurt others. I’ve always wanted to actually help save someone from an abusive situation but I don’t know if I could handle it emotionally. My hat is off to you Isami-San.
Isami has such a great vibe, she has clearly worked so hard to get to the place she is now. What a beautiful person! Thank you for sharing your story ❤
Not to mention, from the summary, she was from a Baptist sect of Christianity. I am wondering what type of Baptist she was from. I hope it's not Southern Baptists because that group is just unsettling. I grew up Southern Baptist, my mom and stepdad grew up at least Southern Baptists. My step-grandparents' church across the street and from what story I heard, the church chased out a black family that wanted to go church there.
So pleased that you survived, a great listen. Love yourselves. I can't understand how some parents can behave so abysmally to their children. Well done
I got to know about Isami from Instagram and regularly follow with her contents. She's so interactive with followers. She explained how a narcissist feel about themselves in so much details. I was glad you did her interview to the depth. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this. Many things connected with me. But the strongest is this experience to see someone being trafficked. I once saw a drugged women being held between a man and a woman in a trainstation. Things were strange and I couldn't help looking and wondering all the time. Not until later I realised that she was under their control. It still haunts me in unexpected flashbacks. I'm grateful that you use your experience to work against trafficking. And - there can be perpetrators in any community. No one should be held above suspicion.
Great interview, thanks for sharing! One thing I've noticed is people don't want to actually say the horrible things said by their abuser(s), which is fine, but maybe think about how other people might be hearing those exact same horrible things but don't know how bad it really is until someone else says it. Not saying anyone should discuss what makes them uncomfortable, just coming from a different perspective.
I agree with you, it can be helpful to many. I also make sure the guest knows beforehand that any level they want to share is ok and I will never push them. I usually ask what points they are ok with speaking on to make sure I don’t bring something up they weren’t ready for
Wanted to comment to help the algorithm because boy does this channel deserve it! Isami should be so proud of herself for not only speaking up and out against cults, and predators but also trafficking. Also a big applause for all these survivors for letting people know how much therapy can help
I'm so sorry for the long repeated injuries that she endured. Her journey to help others is inspiring. I'm so grateful that she's been able to keep her faith in G*d, while distancing herself from dangerous people and groups. She did a great job of describing the kinds of people and behaviors to look out for. BTW, while it's not a guarantee, we prefer to attend a church that is part of a denomination. It opens up the possibility of an intervention if a church's pastor or other leadership need correction.
Hi, Isami. I live in Tennessee the home state of Greg Locke of the IFBD. I didn't know that cult had spread all the way to Japan until I watched this video. Thank you for speaking out and for all the work you do to raise awareness about human trafficking. You are a warrior!
Thank you soo much for being involved with human trafficking. Thank you for helping them. So glad you're doing better! Lifting weights!!! That's awesome!
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I LOVE the description you wrote!! Well said!😄🌟
My favourite saying is "I dont have a problem with God, its his followers that p*ss me off!" Or is it "...his fan club that p*ss me off"? Hm, i forgot. But it was a good saying😅🤦
I'm here for the T-shirt
Definitely want that tshirt
Love it!
As a queer person, predators are predators and should be taken seriously whatever gender or sexuality. Also a video came across my recommendations a few weeks ago from a women who's still pretty fundie, but she was talking about leaving an IFB church because they had protected a man she didn't feel her children were safe around, to discover they have a whole group of lawyers to protect predators in court, its terrifying
I agree with you. It’s always an image thing. Protect the abusers so the church can say they don’t have a pedo problem….it’s disgusting.
@@CultstoConsciousness and it should be the truest believers who are most disgusted, but of course they're usually being lied to. She only found out about this man on a fundie snark forum, basically said feel free to snark on me because you guys did good
👏👏👏completely agree!
Even small churches can be used by a couple who claims one is Satan openly and killed their own child and no one in the justice system cared. They not only were not arrested but they now have the custody of a 4 year old and 3 are still in emergency placement at their bio father's home.
absolutely. ive seen so many disgusting things from other queer people and ive seen people who want to try to cover it up so "we" don't "look bad" and its disgusting. people of all gender identities and sexualities can be creeps, abusers, r*pists, and cultists, and they all gotta be flushed out everywhere they are.
The idea that a parent would willingly use a child as money/trafficking to get ANYTHING. Just. My heart is so so so broken.
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I agree so disturbing 😞 . I'm literally I'm shock because it was her own mom. As a mom of 2 daughters it strikes a harder chord in My soul hearing this awful abuse.
That's where the narcissism more comes into it, I think. The children are being used as currency, but also to gain prestige. Her mother wanted the free piano lessons to have children who were musically accomplished, as she didn't want her reputation tarnished but elevated. She says her dad would've been upset had he known, which gives another layer of secrecy with which I don't think you usually see.
Parents are MOSTERS too. People like to describe horrible people like animals. Animals don't hate, use, abuse, don't have Religions, don't declare wars. ALL MONSTERS HAVE A HUMAN FACE!
There's parents who care for and love their children to grow and learn and become their own person...and there's owners. People who think that their children are their property, a burden, and to be used.
She hit the breakdown of a narcissist right to the molecule.
Isami-San,I'm also a haffu with a Japanese mom who was also very toxic and controlling of every aspect of my life. Since I was a small child, my mom used to tell me that she expected me to stay "pure"/virgin until I was married. I didn't didn't know what she was talking about at the age of 4 or 5. Sex education wasn't allowed in our home as well as certain cartoons and TV shows. I was physically and emotionally abused daily. I didn't even know what was happening to my body when my body started to change to the point of when I 1st had my menstrual cycle. The only thing she told me was to keep myself clean and this will happen once a month and now I can become pregnant so no talking to boys. Wtf. She sign the papers for me in 6th grade to sit in class to watch a film about "body changes" bcz my mom refused to talk about it. When I was 17 yrs old, I was allowed to go on my 1st date but it had to be with another couple, never alone with a strict curfew back home bcz I might lose my "precious gift" that's for husband. She even took me to the Dr's to make sure I was still a virgin until I was 18 yrs old. After I turned 18,I was kicked out bcz they couldn't legally control me anymore. Freedom at last but I didn't have any life skills. It was rough but I was finally happy.
Wow that sounds awful! I’m so sorry you went through that. We did a whole episode just before Isami on the dangers of purity culture. You may find it helpful ❤
M husband is from Japan and what he an I have both noticed is that when Japanese get into cults, they get in really deep, really fast. Rules following is big in their culture. We lost a few Japanese friends that fell into cults. JW and Amway. It’s crazy. My husband was born a rule breaker and in japan that’s not good. So he traveled the world and we met. We are both so anti rules, live life outside the lines!
Thank you for sharing that! I’m happy he dodged all that!
So do Koreans. I was watching a documentary recently on Netflix about the JMS cult, and I noted the same tendency in Korea too. That documentary also featured other cults, like the Baby Garden and another church whose name I can't remember. It was disturbing how these innocent people could get so trapped in evil organizations, in part because conformity and intense pressure to follow the rules is such a big part of their culture.
As an aside, long ago, my hubby studied Japanese with the intention of moving there to teach English someday. But he couldn't stand the conformity of Japanese culture (he's a natural-born rebel). There are things he continues to admire about Japanese culture, but going over there would have driven him crazy.
Oh my God!! Amway is a cult?
My childhood was awful. It was nothing like Isami but still awful. My parents, mainly my dad, a few of his brothers started amway. I had a couple of friends who's parents were doing amway as well.
This is blowing my mind right now!!
@@Chronically_Kimberly it’s a pyramid scheme or mlm, but it becomes all encompassing. I had Japanese friends and an American co-worker go down the Amway hole. Everything becomes Amway. Oh you’re having a party, can I give an Amway talk? NO. It was obnoxious. I said I may buy something from you, but do not try to shovel your pyramid scheme to me. I have no time to harass people to join. You make more money the more people you get to join. It’s horrible. Of course Amway says they aren’t a pyramid scheme or an mlm but a lifestyle/home business. LoL
Our church (UPCI) which is about the same level of cult as Mormon on the Boyd Scale, had many Filipinos in my local church. I think they like the structure, but I don't know. When they come in, they get super involved, super fast. They pick up the "dress standard" (rules for how to dress) very quickly. It's interesting because culture really does affect how quickly people conform. It's interesting how culture can prepare us to accept or reject cults.
Another thing about her story is that people don’t think women can sexually abuse people. They can and do 😢
Thats absolutely true. A point very well made.
Its genuinely a case where cishet men are harmed by their gender and sexuality, there's less resources or even awareness that men can be abused. If its brought up, its usually just incels who want to use it to silence women, instead of actually work on dismantling rape culture
Every human is capable of abuse except maybe an infant
these people are stupid. criminals are criminals, regardless of their gender.
@leahflower9924 infants can be abusive, they just haven't gotten good at it this early...
Speaking as a Queer person, I appreciate Isami's support of my community. I'm so sorry for what happened to her. And just to be extremely clear, p*dos are not welcome in our community. At all.
I"m so glad that she has gotten some skilled therapy, and sounds like she's healing. It's so heartbreaking that she felt like she was at fault. It's so impressive that she's speaking out publicly on this platform, as well as her own.
Speaking as an LGB person I'd be thankful if you didn't use that horrid slur used to bash gays to describe the "community".
@Qrtuop Queer is not a slur, stop projecting your preferences onto other people in the community.
@@Qrtuop TERFs and other bigots aren’t welcome in the Queer Community either. (Or do you also misunderstand TERF to be a slur as well?)
Reclaimed words have even more power for ostracized groups. Don’t you dare try to police my language while excluding parts of the community intentionally with that bigoted term, ffs. The hypocrisy is through the roof.
FYI to any cishet normies (I mean that lovingly and respectfully, btw) reading this and maybe thinking I’m overreacting-
“Queer” has been reclaimed at least since the 90s when I was growing up, whereas “LGB” specifically is intentionally used by bigoted queer people who are trying to subtly exclude Trans people. It’s a dogwhistle that many straight folks who aren’t super knowledgeable on the topic may not be aware of.
Though it’s directed at Trans and NB people, they’re also excluding Intersex, Asexual, as well as Gender Queer, others who identify just as “Queer,” and everyone else in the “+”-like 2Spirited people and other nuanced or traditional identities. While groups of people. You don’t have to list every single letter, that’s why we use the plus sign. To indicate it includes our whole community.
That sort of bigotry and exclusion is not welcome in the LGBTQIA+ Community. But, just to be clear, it’s also totally fine to just say LGBT+ or Queer, or even LGBTQ bc in that context the “Q” is the placeholder for the rest of the community, just like when I use the term “Queer” to refer to all of us.
The only people we exclude are p*dos and bigots. The whole point is to accept those who are different to ourselves as long as they aren’t hurting anyone. You can still be gay without the community claiming you. There’s a small subsection of bigoted queer folks joining in the horrifying movement against Trans people happening right now. I have absolutely no tolerance for the hate implied by the use of the dogwhistle “LGB Community.”
Maybe that’s what they call their little hate cult, but don’t ever imply it’s the same community we’re referring to with “Queer” or “LGBTQ+” because we don’t want that bigotry here. We’re all working on our unintended, subconscious issues that are unavoidable in such a systematically bigoted society. We don’t accept that sort of intentional discrimination and hate. Especially not against trans folks when we’re in the beginnings of what may become a full-blown genocide if we don’t fight it tooth and nail everywhere. But most vociferously in anyone who’s queer.
@@Qrtuop Transgender people and Queer people are a part of this community too.
As a straight person, I strongly support and respect your community.
The church I grew up in called themselves Freewill Baptist, but it sounds almost identical. I was also a pastor's kid. It is so weird looking back and realizing how messed up my upbringing really was. Congrats girl! We made it out! ❤
You did it!🙌
I'm so happy that you got away.
Thank you. At sixty years old today I learned the term familial trafficking and so much makes sense now.
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I now have a word describing what happened with me when I was ten years old. My Mom allowed me to go on a ten day trip alone with a man she barely knew. She had left her abusive husband in the fifties taking her six young children with her. She was without a place to stay. She met a Hispanic man in a park who took us to his small shack. I was allowed to go pick crops with him alone. He would touch me sexually in front of her. She did nothing but knew what was going on. A year later when she asked for details of what he did to me, her reply was, "Sometimes little girls let things happen to them because they want attention." I will never forget the weird smile on her face when she said that. She was soaking a bathtub of hot water smirking as she heard the details of how he "hurt" me. Hurt was her word. As I got older, there were other things set up but not to the same degree as rape.
@@donnaatkinson2562 I genuinely hope you’re healing and are alright. It doesn’t mean much from a stranger like I am, but you’re amazing. Not every parent deserves a child. I’m so sorry for what happened to you and hope for much more love and light in your life ❤
Thank you...I have been through a lot of therapy to help piece my fragmented compartmentalized life. I found relief and peace of mind through my relationship with nature, art, gardening and writing as well as photography. It has been a learning experience. I am writing a memoir to share my story with the intention of empowering other females in my family. The issue is how do I give the details of what happened without gratuitous exploitation of the facts by some predator? Also, how does the story get told without triggering and retraumatizing the women and girls that mean so much to me. The fact is this still goes on in my family but even more hidden and silent behind fundamentalist Christian practices. I was shocked when I became aware of how some of my nieces have been controlled and abused. Time to wake up. Maybe that is the purpose of the life I have lived.
@donnaatkinson2562 Much Love ❤
Isami's description of narcissism is SO profoundly spot on
Can I say she seems like a 10/10 human. Kind. Considerate. Self aware. All around good vibes. I bet she’d be a great friend and an awesome person to have on your side.
As someone who grew up Baptist, it took until my adult life to realize how vastly different Baptist churches can be. Mine was relatively conservative, but nothing like the IFB. It was shocking knowing how bad it can get.
My Southern Baptist Church in Metro-Atlanta silenced child SA victims. The abuse was by members, not church leadership, but the church enabled it claiming "the church has a right to protect itself" from gossip and scandal. Abusive donors, basically adult criminals, were favored over children being victimized. Victims were told they must forgive.
Yes, I grew up in Baptist churches. The one I went to from 5-12 was a Fundamental Baptist church and was much like she described (at least the basics). Other Baptist churches I went to were not like this one.
Oh, my goodness. I experienced this. I thought my parents had nothing to do with it. The man said into his tape recorder what happened during our meeting leaving out the molestation. Then I thought the tape recording was proof or documentation. I felt so defeated. This stinks. You don't have to be super attractive to be molested. My step father was related to this man. I used to think why did these people do this to me as I'm not beautiful. We look better than we think as they destroyed our self-esteem.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, Jeanette. That’s awful. Sending love on your healing journey ❤️
You are beautiful.
These sick predators don’t necessarily pick victims based on looks- they know who to target and who is not as rebellious or outspoken… it’s awful
Also, if the child is from an at risk/dysfunctional household
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ooph.. I was told that by my french teacher... ("you will live under a bridge")
Because I didn't "respect him" (aka, was unattentive/had adhd).
Cannot imagine how it must be to have a parent tell you these horrible things.
Thank you for this Interview. You are awesome!
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Vile behavior from a person that's been entrusted with a child's education...
I don’t know what it was about this guest - sometimes you can feel a bit despairing about human nature when you hear these stories - but I found her attitude and presentation so uplifting! After having such a difficult, horrible and wrong start in life - I wish her nothing but the best x
Your channel deserves 100K subscribers…watching this video, I feel like I’m part of an intimate, intelligent conversation between two women with shared experiences. Although the subject matter is difficult to hear, it is handled with grace and compassion. ❤️🙏🏽
Wow, thank you! I appreciate your kind words ❤️
100% agree!!❤
I absolutely agree! I think it was one of the Mormon polygamy videos that I watched first (my partner and I are polyamorous, and he had a whirl in Mormonism, though he left because it was"too culty"), and I've been watching several episodes a week since then. Shelise's compassion and encouragement gets me every time!
Beautifully put, my friend! I couldn’t agree more.
I absolutely agree. She's worth more than her weight in gold.
I once asked my mom when I was a teenager, "Why couldn't we be a normal family?"
I remember she got offended about it and said that if we were a "normal" family then her and my stepdad would be divorced. That's one of the things that mainly sticks out.
Ever notice how they have berry, berry tender widdle feebwings and we’re not “allowed” to have any?!
This is up there with how do atheists know what's right or wrong. If the only thing stopping you harming others or forcing you to stay in a relationship is fear of divine retribution, its not actually a good thing
The story about the "family's" behaviour on the plane made my stomach sink.
It’s crazy that the airline essentially turned a blind eye to it. Planes need some sort of police force of their own. But realistically we know too many of these organization and businesses CHOSE to turn a blind eye.
You have helped me understand my Mom. I never understood her lying to people about me or Why I was the scapegoat of the family. I never understood why my siblings would trade places as her favorite. I have been asking this question all my life. Today you taught me that I am not alone. This weird shit happened to other people. The explanation is Mom is a narcissist. Accept for the religious aspects and the trading me for music lessons. My Mom's behavior was exactly like Isami Daehn's Mom. Thank you for sharing your story. You have freed me from a terrible mystery and from feeling alone.
I’m sorry you had to go through that. You are not alone. Thank you for sharing. I’m so glad it was helpful ❤️
In therapy I had a similar experience about narcissists. I called my parent a narcissist and the therapist was like hang on you can just say something loosely and we went over the questions and the therapist gets quiet and was like ... maybe you are right. 😂 thanks.
I genuinely don't and even try not to be around folks who use it loosely. One it makes me feel invalidated and two mental health shouldn't be joked about nor villinized.
I am queer myself, and you are absolutely able to speak out against predators. Thank you so much for understanding that they are not apart of our community. I would gladly kick her ass, she is definitely not allowed in. It is not okay.
There are certainly predators in the LGBTQ community. Please dont spread lies.
"Swearing is the laxative that purges the soul." I heard that somewhere and I find it to be true.😂
How sad that her mom sold their daughter out like that for some free piano lessons and to keep up appearances. Sometimes I wonder if churches have done more harm than good overall. I feel proud of Isami for getting help to overcome all that trauma that so wasn't her fault and for being such a caring, compassionate person. So much light shines through her eyes! ❤ I appreciate her sharing her story. Also, I wonder if the pilot maybe knew that international trafficker and it wasn't the first time? There are definitely enablers in positions of power who look the other way. There has to be.
Keeping up appearances is big in Japan and other East Asian countries. Being a Chinese-American, I've seen so many examples of how damaging keeping appearances and saving face can be, especially to children, who are treated as subordinate to their parents and as trophies for their parents to show off.
When you both shared the freedom to ‘cuss’, and the t-shirt idea, I instantly remembered that there is an actual bumper sticker that says ( my husband saw this), “Jesus Loves You, everyone else thinks you’re an asshole”. Wow😂
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I would *definitely* buy that bumper sticker!
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Dude! My husband and I were both involved in independent fundamental Baptist circles. There's a ton of disentangling and it comes in waves. ☹️
Shelise, what I value most about your channel is how you beautifully validate the pain and suffering your guests share. You verbalize & demonstrate such genuine empathy. Its wonderfully healing and creates such a safe space for trauma survivors. Never lose that amazing empathy.
Thank you so much, Christine! ❤ I appreciate that
As the daughter of a preacher, I felt some of this. Especially how everything needed to *look* perfect and if it didn't, that was the problem.
I dated a narcissist for about 5 years, and it really was a little like being in a cult. Isami, I wish you hadn't had to go through that--especially being trafficked by your own mother. Now that I've watched the entire episode, you've gained my utmost respect!
At 24:00, you mentioned that from the outside, narcissistic people appear perfect because their children aren't "disrespectful" and it made me think about how often as a teacher I've told a parent about their child's behavior and they would tell me their child was never disrespectful toward them, and then they would recommend that I do something unethical (social isolation for a long time period, eg.). All I can think is their kids must have felt so much safer in my classroom than at home to behave the way they did in my classroom.
Please don't stop what you're doing teachers are what got me through my narcissistic family
You see it a lot with dogs too, people tend to confuse biddability with intelligence and fawning for well behaved dogs. So a german shepherd falling over itself to please its owner smart, wonderful dog, a husky bred for intelligent disobedience that tells you to go screw yourself but can break into anything that has food must be stupid
Thank you for being good to kids. Everyone acts out where they feel safest. It’s hard to be the safe space but it’s love.
Oh no ❤❤❤ 😢 I'm so sorry for what happened to you. It was NOT OK!!! 😡😡😡 I don't understand why people don't believe their kids!!!
"The pastor's favorite family" was something I strongly witnessed in my last church before leaving. The cliques are real!
As much as I disapprove of the narcissist in my life, I also feel bad for them because the self loathing is real. I wish they'd chosen therapy and healing from their own childhood traumas rather than the twisted bs they inflicted on their family
I've thought that many, many times about my dad. And my aunt who's made my cousin's life miserable.
I’m so excited Isami and yourself got to do an interview together!! I just clicked on your latest video, as I have been doing daily in the last few weeks (such great content)… and then -double take- “Wait a minute! I know this person 😮!!”.
She’s such an incredible advocate against Human Trafficking in the aviation industry. I really look up to her and what she has to teach us about that overlooked subject. Plus, she used to be a Flight Attendants… FA are badass people to start with 😎.
Amazing!! Thanks for watching!
YESSSS We love a feel your anger advocate!!! Thank you Isami!!!
I’ve seen some airlines now that have instructions for people who are being trafficked
Both of you ladies are so articulate and smart and conscientious. I'm so proud of you both.
Thank you!
Isami, you have a beautiful spirit!! ❤
It was very informative listening to you. Thank you for being such a great advocate against familial trafficking. ❤
I loved her enormously. Thanks for having her.
I would buy that shirt!! Thanks for sharing your story. It's heartbreaking, but it's amazing to see how you are healing. You are so strong!
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Much respect to these brave ladies for such a powerful message 🙏 💪
I WANT THAT SHIRT! And thank you both for enlightening us about familial trafficking and helping me identify narcissistic things that my mother did.
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24:30 such a helpful section on the condition of narcissism
Love this channel you are so amazing for bringing these hard topics to light.
Thank you so much!
Agreed!!
Thank you Isami for sharing your story. I am so sorry to hear about the physical abuse you were forced to endure as well as the emotional and spiritual abuse at the very hands of the humans that were supposed to protect you. I appreciate your bravery and honesty.
Isami is such a beautiful, bright light. Thank you for sharing your journey with us all. C2C is such a safe space for all ❤❤❤
I, too, have found cursing to be therapeutic. I wasn't allowed to be angry as a child and giving myself permission to express anger was (and is) incredibly freeing.
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I totally understand why many who are raised in cults forsake religion altogether, but man is it nice to hear from someone who is able to navigate between their cult and their faith so intricately. Very cool episode.
Thank you, I love watching your videos. Very therapeutic to me, married to a narcissist for 21+ years, brainwashed into patriarchal Christian mindset. Working on my personal healing, deconstruction, and plan to “escape”. Please keep up the great work! ❤️
I was in the same type of marriage for 18 years! Ex was a narcissist who took me to this Baptist church on PURPOSE because he knew they had were dogmatic about a “women’s place”. I’ve been divorced from him for 18 years this month 🙏🏼- praying and sending strength to you. You can do this!!!!
What a beautiful brave heart. I appreciate her telling the story of her imprisonment inside that Baptist Fundamentalist Independent cult. All the best for living free and experiencing joy the rest of her life.
I'm so infinitely sorry for this girl what she had gone through with her parents telling her she's not smart enough and all the abuse they did to her. My parents also told me as a child that I was not smart enough and my mother even called me retarded. This was very traumatizing and left me growing up with low self esteem and fear of giving presentations in school.
I can't get over the inaction from the Captain or flight leader in the story. With that level of incompetence/ inaction, it isn't surprising that this sort of thing is more common than we think!!
So sad.
Thankyou to Isami for sharing her story.
Such strong people to have not only Survived the abuse. . . But Thrived.
Makes me so sad for those who may not have. 😔
Thank you to this amazing brave woman for sharing her story and her recovery. She is an inspiration, not because of what was inflicted on her, but on the ways she is helping others because of it.
The more I see from this channel, the more impressed I am with the content and host. This is quality.
Thank you so much!🙏
You two are such beautiful people. The way you handled trauma in a way that there is still the light shining from within, the genuine smile, the unimaginable strength!!! You are role models!
Wow, thank you!❤
Thank you for this episode and for sharing your story. I grew up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. I thought I was alone with calling it a cult. So glad to see people are speaking out about this group too.
As always, beautiful,articulate and informative episode. Truly amazing guest, much love goes out to you all ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
So true that lifting weights helps with grounding you in your body! Loved the interview - thanks for fighting human trafficking!
Thank you so much for this. I resonate so much with a lot of what was said here, especially about narcissistic parental control and abuse... I've written down so many things and quotes from this video! In my notebook that is growing from all the quotes I have from the Cults to Consciousness channel!! It's really REALLY been helping me to realise and come to fully understand what I've been through growing up my entire life. It's really difficult to realise these things but now that I have and am, it's so very healing. Thank you so much. Also absolutely YES to the t-shirt!! The "f*ck you, Amen" haha! I'd deffo buy that! Love from England ❤
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I was raised by my Japanese grandmother who has NPD. Thank you for making this video. I can relate a lot to Isami.
What an amazing, touching, stunning, highly intelligent and Compassionate girl. I'm touched to tears.
The funniest thing is when the narcissist knows you know. They keep trying to brainwash you again. Then they get mad when we can't. I told one at church that her new friend seems good for her. I said that I was sorry we had clashed but iron sharpens iron and we can learn from each other. She blocked me. Now I don't have to deal with her. She regrets it as she enjoyed the sniping. You can't get along with these nuts or even be cordial. I tried to accept the snide remarks and be like Jesus, but I was not allowed to mention the tension as she wanted it hidden under the radar as her gaslighting.
What a great episode. Isami -she is amazing.
We're going to see that RUclips plaque in the background soon. So close to 100k subs.
Can't wait!🥳🥳🥳
What a well-spoken and intelligent lady Miss Isami is. So sad what she endured by the hands of her own parents. I hope she finds healing and realizes how sweet and incredibly strong she really is. 🙏🏻🌻🌸❤️
As an early childhood teacher it's so hard to hear how your vulnerability was exploited.
This lady has such strength of character, I’m in awe, given her background. Lots of love to her, thank you for this wonderful channel❣️😊
People who are not raised by narcissists cannot relate how a person feels like he/she IS a part of the narcissistic abuser. It is hard to get away when you are an appendage of another
Person.
finally catching up. love this one. the whole "go ahead and swear" thing spoke volumes
I’ve seen Isami’s social media but stopped halfway through because it was too triggering but was able to listen to the end. This type of abuse what happens within the family stays in the family type of toxic dynamic is very common amongst Japanese households. You might think mixed kids who have a western parent would have the best of both worlds but in reality, they’re far more likely to get abused since homogeneous countries tend to stay away from anything they don’t know, thus the problem never becomes public. I know people who are religiously/culturally abused especially the Muslim girls because foreigners aren’t deemed to have the same rights as Japanese kids so they’re not protected by the system, CPS won’t help and there’s not much to do.
There’s so many half western half Japanese cult survivors/one family cult survivors especially in the countryside which has twisted historical/cultural context so I’d send you people I’d recommend if you don’t mind, thank you.
Yes, please do
I grew up in a Baptist church & went to Baptist school for a short while. This has brought back so many memories of the garbage i was told to think & believe. I really like that Isami said "is it from your heart or what you've been told". I started doing this years ago & I've been much happier with my decisions ♥
An absolutely heartbreaking story from this brave, courageous human. I have massive respect for Isami turning her horrific childhood experiences into a platform to help others.
As a piano teacher and an ally, I am SO sorry that this happened to you. I consider my studio as a safe space for anyone and it is horrific to me that anyone would violate that trusted bond and space to harm you. I can't even imagine.
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Wow. What an amazing conversation. Being brought up JW and added mind control by my mother. A double whammy. I did not have physical abuse but every word is so beautifully expressed. I'm so glad I'm not alone. Tx for sharing your story so eloquently
I'm sorry you had gone through this. You seem happy now and still healing
I love to hear her say getting in touch with her inner child ❤
Thank you for sharing Isami, good job seeing the red flags. It seems like we're doing the work in therapy, super clear retelling of your experience with what was driving your parents fd up actions.
I used to live next door to an abusive family… it was so difficult. Police came regularly but nothing ever helped. There were two young boys and I wanted to be able to save them so badly. It hurts so much when you see kids going through the abuse you remember going through.
There was nothing I could do to help…
One day when I had the crushing sense of hopelessness about the abuse I realized that inside I was projecting how much pain I went through and I was really wishing someone would have saved me as a kid.
The pain that I pushed down and just turned into distancing myself wells up when I think about other kids and wanting to help them.
I wish I were doing something to help abused kids but all I have been able to do is try and end the cycle with my child (an impossible task as I am not the only parent. . . ) I just try to be a good person and not hurt others.
I’ve always wanted to actually help save someone from an abusive situation but I don’t know if I could handle it emotionally.
My hat is off to you Isami-San.
Isami has such a great vibe, she has clearly worked so hard to get to the place she is now. What a beautiful person! Thank you for sharing your story ❤
Thank you for sharing your story Isami
Thank you so much Isami!
Isami, you are So well spoken. I am so impressed by this interview. Thank you for sharing your story. I didn't want it to end!! Following
This guest is so brave to share her life experiences to help others.
I really feel for her. Unfortunately this type of abuse is common in Asian families.
Not to mention, from the summary, she was from a Baptist sect of Christianity. I am wondering what type of Baptist she was from. I hope it's not Southern Baptists because that group is just unsettling. I grew up Southern Baptist, my mom and stepdad grew up at least Southern Baptists. My step-grandparents' church across the street and from what story I heard, the church chased out a black family that wanted to go church there.
@@Neku628 She was a Independent baptist .Oh man Baptism and strict Asian hierarchal family seems like a nightmare.
@@ingweking8748 two things that should be nowhere near each other.
It was common in mine. 12 kid white black and Hispanic and this is legitimately like my family
You make it sound as if it's less common in families of other ethnicities. Which is quite an assumption.
What a great interview. She is a beautiful person. So glad she has overcome some of her trauma.
So pleased that you survived, a great listen.
Love yourselves.
I can't understand how some parents can behave so abysmally to their children.
Well done
I got to know about Isami from Instagram and regularly follow with her contents. She's so interactive with followers. She explained how a narcissist feel about themselves in so much details. I was glad you did her interview to the depth. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this. Many things connected with me. But the strongest is this experience to see someone being trafficked. I once saw a drugged women being held between a man and a woman in a trainstation. Things were strange and I couldn't help looking and wondering all the time. Not until later I realised that she was under their control. It still haunts me in unexpected flashbacks. I'm grateful that you use your experience to work against trafficking.
And - there can be perpetrators in any community. No one should be held above suspicion.
Thank you so much for your bravery. Sending love your way. ❤
Great interview, thanks for sharing! One thing I've noticed is people don't want to actually say the horrible things said by their abuser(s), which is fine, but maybe think about how other people might be hearing those exact same horrible things but don't know how bad it really is until someone else says it. Not saying anyone should discuss what makes them uncomfortable, just coming from a different perspective.
I agree with you, it can be helpful to many. I also make sure the guest knows beforehand that any level they want to share is ok and I will never push them. I usually ask what points they are ok with speaking on to make sure I don’t bring something up they weren’t ready for
Isami is such a beautiful, articulate person. I totally admire her!
Ok, please make that t-shirt!!!!! Also, I love this guest and will now go down a rabbit hole with her. She is amazing!
We did! 😁😁😁 cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd
Wanted to comment to help the algorithm because boy does this channel deserve it! Isami should be so proud of herself for not only speaking up and out against cults, and predators but also trafficking. Also a big applause for all these survivors for letting people know how much therapy can help
Thank you so much!!❤🎉
I'm so sorry for the long repeated injuries that she endured. Her journey to help others is inspiring. I'm so grateful that she's been able to keep her faith in G*d, while distancing herself from dangerous people and groups. She did a great job of describing the kinds of people and behaviors to look out for. BTW, while it's not a guarantee, we prefer to attend a church that is part of a denomination. It opens up the possibility of an intervention if a church's pastor or other leadership need correction.
We are not responsible for what other people say. Subjectivity is indivisible. No one can define you correctly but yourself.
Such a Bold and Beautiful Testimony.
Thanks for making me aware of the stuff that is happening in the world.
This interview was so beautiful. Isami is such an amazing person.
Hi, Isami. I live in Tennessee the home state of Greg Locke of the IFBD. I didn't know that cult had spread all the way to Japan until I watched this video. Thank you for speaking out and for all the work you do to raise awareness about human trafficking. You are a warrior!
Thank you soo much for being involved with human trafficking. Thank you for helping them. So glad you're doing better!
Lifting weights!!! That's awesome!