The Unlikely Whistleblower with Tamara Pietzke | Episode 161
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
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Stella and Sasha welcome whistleblower, Tamara Pietzke for an important conversation highlighting the valuable role that clinicians who are able to speak openly play in revealing insights from ‘behind the gender affirming care curtain’.
Tamara’s story highlights the challenges and ethical dilemmas involved in providing gender-affirming care to children and the difficulties whistleblowers are facing in speaking out against harmful practices and the lack of informed consent.
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I am in Woke Washington as well and my daughter went through the trans cult phase when she was 12-15. She’s 17 now and cringes at all of that nonsense that she believed when she was younger. Ironically enough, she wants to major in Biology in college. These poor kids are fed lie after lie and it’s so sad that grown adults are falling for it, too. We went through two very affirming therapists and my daughter would be on testosterone and have her body cut up if I listened to them! Thank god I trusted my gut and my sanity over their delusions and saved her from harm. We never used pronouns and never used her stupid new name. We were her reality! Shame on these other parents who are afraid to be parents and set boundaries for their kids. Get them off their phones and back in real life. Make them get a job. Screens are raising these kids and doing so much harm that will take years to repair. I thank god every day that we came out of this unscathed. Thank you Tamara for your bravery! Please don’t give up. There are thousands of parents who need therapists like you who are sane and believe in science and biology not wokism and inclusion. We’ll be cheering you on! 🙏🏼
@trw02121 - You did well by her, and she did well too. Glad she's only left with embarrassment - although not easy to bear, it's so much better than early menopause, deep voice, facial and bodily hair not wanted, osteoporosis, inability to enjoy sex and infertility - I can NOT imagine what living with even just one of those awful consequences might feel like.
@@Wendyj55 She was in an LGBTQ friend group at the time and one girl has been taking testosterone and has a male voice now. They work together and she now goes by a boy’s name and the workers all have to tiptoe around accidentally misgendering her. I hate how they all try to control our language and tell us what to call them. I just avoid people like that all together. They can live in their fantasy world. My daughter is happily identifying as a girl and has the sweetest boyfriend. She’s exactly who she was born to be and proud of it.
@@trw02121 - Your daughter dodged a bullet. I wish you well.
I agree with what Dave Chappell says, to paraphrase, why do WE have to take part in someone else’s delusion??
TRW:
Congratulations for your demonstration of strength, dignity, common sense and determination on protecting your daughter. Without paranoia, I’d encourage you to stay vigilant. This wretch cult still has extremely strong grasp in colleges and universities, hospitals, clinics, etc.
But that said, it is fantastic you and your daughter and family don’t have to navigate her circumstances, had she gone through surgeries and extreme pharmaceutical interventions.
I find Washington State physically beautiful, but the social pressures on young people just terrible. They deserve to grow, learn and explore life - and develop all-important life skills - without the hyper-sexualized trans cult.
Take good care & best wishes!💫
I hate stereotypes, but over and over with these whistleblowers, what it seems is that many , many therapists are crazy themselves. It's the actual GOOD and SANE therapists who are blowing the whistle.
I know a bunch of counsellors & psychotherapists socially & professionally - I concur.
Many of the older ones are excited at the novelty, finding these client stories 'refreshing' because most other stories have all been heard before by experienced people.
Quite a few have literally said some variation of "I was going to retire, but now therapy has got interesting again, like how it was when I first qualified and every client was fresh & new & intense & growthful experience"
@OrwellsHousecat they also get the chance to play saviour. It's not just MDs that have god complexes
I think it's well past time people realise that therapists aren't deserving of pedestals. They should be scrutinized independently. It's so wild.
The stereotype I always heard was only people with something wrong with them go into psychology.
@@OrwellsHousecatIndeed I had a therapist tell me I was “interesting” when I had gender issues. It was a huge red flag for me. I’m not supposed to be entertaining my therapist.
I have worked with 2 brilliant therapists both of whom identified me as having gender dysphoria ( I do ) and yet neither pressured me to transition or pushed me to take any medical steps towards a sex change. They simply continued working with me on my PTSD. At 54 I am finally comfortable in my female body. I am certain had I not grown up in 1970’s that I would have been talked into mutilating my body by the gender-ideology-cult. I have had several heterosexual female friends who are mothers say they were tomboys who also would have transitioned at 12. Giving sex changes to children will one day be seen as the horror show it is. God bless this brave young woman for having the integrity to fight for what’s right. First do no harm !!!
Well said.
This was true for my now-adult child's gender therapist. She didn't push. She gave information when my kiddo asked for it but kept herself very neutral while remaining supportive. Nobody coerced my child into socially transitioning, then deciding to do so chemically. We researched extensively beforehand and spoke with two pediatric endocrinologists. Kiddo absolutely bloomed post-transition. There have been no regrets.
Being nonjudgmental and holding things gently helps kids sort out gender stuff. Freaking out and pushing back causes serious distrust. As this woman mentions, her client let the dog idea go. This is normal. Many, many kids play with gender. It's not a big deal.
NO therapist should go into a case with a pre-conceived idea of "the best outcome" that does not involve the client's buy-in. It sounds as if this woman had no training and didn't want any.
This "whistleblower" seems fine discussing her former minor clients in public. Talk about a red flag. I would not recommend her to anybody. Ongoing training is to keep therapists aware of best practices, which is absolutely important. Her refusal to listen is clear.
yes, i would have transitioned. i’m 53 and i feel like being born in 1970 saved me.
Dissociation is predominating coping mechanism used by children abused by caregivers as they are dependent upon the caregiver for survival and have no power.
@@rachaelikthe "whistleblower" was actively seeking to understand "the process", was being shut down, dismissed, told to follow blindly..the red flags lay squarely with an ideology that umbrella's a diversity of clients, many who are coming from vastly different motivations.
Trans is a bug, not a feature..it is very rare, not common..this whistleblower had every right to question, as we all do.
The trans friends I knew who went through this in the late 80's early 90's went through rigorous psyche evaluation before they medically transitioned.. whereas today "best practice" may exist randomly in some clinical settings, but I can assure you most clinical settings aren't currently.
My f2m "nephew" was rushed through medical transition at 15..along with 2 other classmates, also f2m..what are the odds?
1 has detransitioned, 1 has self harmed many times & my nephew appears reasonably ok, despite finding difficult to find a healthy accepting relationship.
This is a massive sweeping trend in the West & fraught with issues that need to be tested..it also is 💯 an ideology.
The expression "the lunatics have taken over the asylum" springs to mind with this kind of situation! In an understated way, Tamara seems a very rational, empathetic, resilient person with tons of integrity.
In my Masters of Social Work program, we were repeatedly taught to question authority and not assume that the so-called experts are in fact, the experts. Not for the sake of sheer defiance or being contrarian, but to train yourself to question and not assume that a professional title equates to knowledge and wisdom.
And now we have teachers being fired for that
Try it now with anything related to LGBTQ and see. The world has gone mad.
I’m in Oregon with my 14yo girl and we’re leaving. I found out last school year they were social transitioning her without my knowledge (let alone consent) and I was furious. They put all these kids into RUclips when they were doing online schooling and from there it’s taken off. So much negative influence to be found with no parental controls. The idea that you can’t question a child’s motivation but can only affirm is such a crock. How can any therapy even occur? At this point I don’t know that there’s anywhere safe for us to be to weather this phase in her life, and it is a phase.
It’s exhausting. Thank you for having a voice of reason. I wish I could’ve found someone here.
Missouri is one of the best states for homeschooling. Pick a smaller town and stay away from any and all schools. Even the private and parochial schools are inundated with the alphabet mafia cult.
I'm so glad I got out of Oregon. I lived in Portland for three years and the liberals there are so extreme. My ex-wife graduated from Reed College and later worked there and I was around SJW weirdos all the time. I never met a normal trans person there, like one that seemed like they were actually trying to live and pass as the gender they identified as, instead they were always creepy non-binary folk or dudes who used she/her pronouns but looked like drag rejects. They didn't have a clue what an actual woman was.
I applaud you for recognizing that there is a problem with your daughter's environment. When my older sister had a teenage daughter going through her own insanity at 15, my sister cut her off from every source of negative influence, surrounded her with positive ones, and let her be a 15 year old kid with a family that loved her. My niece is now a happily married mom! She's a beautiful person, and she cringes at what she almost fell for as an easily influenced kid.
May God be with you and your family as you move on to a (hopefully) better place foe your daughter.
I'll be praying for you guys ❤
I'm leaving too. Oregon's too liberal
So many whistleblowers get treated very badly. Saying 'the emperor has no clothes' as Tamara was in some ways, horrifies the establishment. The ones who are promoting this stuff are culpable for such harm. No-one seems to be looking at why this is suddenly such a 'thing' especially for young girls.
I don't have a lot of time for classical therapy (one only has to look at Prince Harry of California), but you ladies are shining examples of the best and most thoughtful.
All best wishes to Tamara and thank you, Stella and Sasha
As a gay man, I am certain that were I a child today I would be pressured to transition.
Today if a boy likes the color pink or a girl wants a short hair cut they'll be pressured to "transition".
"Gender affirming care" is the new face of gay conversion therapy. Not a "real boy"? Then we will make you a girl. Better a sterile, sexually dysfunctional, medically dependent but outwardly "heterosexual" child than a happy, healthy homosexual one.
Exactly: transing the gay away!
Yeah, like socially sanitised conversion therapy.
There’s a lot of homophobia in the trans movement, imo.
Thank you, Tamara Pietzke, for your bravery and your common sense!
Thank you for being so responsible, caring, and courageous. As a certified therapist, I deeply appreciate you.
Clear eyes, clear heart, clear mind, you’re on the right path Tamara. I’m sorry it comes with such great personal cost but I 100% believe you’re correct. I often think I left teaching just in time bc I could not have supported medicalization of young people either.
As a therapist, i am not sure what’s more disturbing, colleagues not supporting discourse, or google blocking access to legit queries on longitudinal studies.
Jesus can you imagine a child comes in shoeing pictures of violence etc and are barely verbal and how the hell does that even relate to testosterone. T doesnt make you a dog! A disabled child. A traumatised child. A child potentially showing signs of abuse if they're showing pictures of a wounded dog. Like its common for abused kids to identify with dogs especially even eat dog food off the floor... right? And sexual ideation is often a sign of sexual abuse or exposure to porn etc causing trauma. Im not even a therapist but this is the first thing i would think if a child came to me and showed me sexualised pictures of animals being harmed. What has testosterone got to do with anything here? At 13? Non verbal? What the actual f? I mean is there not protocol in place that if a child shoes these kind of signs they would have for example speech therapy? They would have some sort of investigation into possible abuse? An autism diagnosis and autism spectrum therapy, before even establishing anything else? Thats just insane.
Another great interview with a therapist who is simply doing her job, like so many in your interviews. “Simply doing your job” has become the most courageous thing any practiser can do in our current societal coercive control and gaslighting. The impact on us all is frightening. Great interview, thank you all for staying with it. 😊
Thank you Tamara for speaking out. I know that there will be many more to come. As a parent who has been dealing with a child with gender dysphoria for over 3 years, it gives me some relief to see there are professionals who are bringing the truth to light. Please know how grateful I am.❤
I appreciate you, Tamara. Thank you for standing up for our vulnerable kids. My older daughter is autistic, thought she was a boy from 14 to 16, and for the past 4 yrs has mythical creature genders. My younger daughter is also neurodivergent, has body dysmorphia, started thinking she was trans also at 14, wants to medicalize, thinks exploration is conversion, she's 17 now. They have 20 trans identified friends, 7 autistic girls were medically harmed as teens.
That is just mind blowing. Wish you all well
@@Nitzpitz Thank you 🌼
People need to ask why everyone is autistic in that generation.
There is a lot of research coming out now about the link between autism and the gut biome. If you can heal the gut, you can heal most of the body's problems, both physical and mental. This is one of the biggest reasons why the overuse of antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals is a tragedy the medical community is complicit in provoking. However, well people are n9t profitable, so they came up with a billion dollar industry to sell magic pills to turn boys into girls and girls into boys which makes them life long pharmaceutical addicts.
Good lord. Simple example of contagion.
Tara, Washingtonian here in absolute shock. I am so livid at the Soviet tactics that my state uses to silence opposition, all under the banner of righteous progressivism. I vote and do my best, but sometimes it’s just overwhelming the loud voice of the left, here. This issue shouldn’t be right and left, but it is.
I moved out of Washington state 6 months ago. My mental health couldn’t take it anymore. Especially after how quickly a Kaiser Gender Clinic gave my 18yr old hormones after one 30min. visit.
Progressivism is and always has been code for socialism. USSR was not as bad as right here right now in many ways. I don't say that lightly as my husband escaped the USSR with the clothes on his back. It has been horrifying watching what is happening.
Why call it Soviet when it is Marxist!
This nation has to make a solid move right, regardless of the title of Republican or Democrat it’s just good and evil right and wrong now
For me its quite funny that you refer to it as soviet tactics because it shows that their tactics works because you choose to believe everything we have been told about soviet but infact doesnt know .
For a long time back we have been told that soviet is a dictatorship, that they censor, control are crazy, are the villiance even in movies , they have told it to us so long that we believe it with out even reacting , they even censor everything from soviet so we cant hear their side and we dont even question it, why do someone have to censor, silence them, stop us from hearing the other part if the things they say is true .
That is the ultimat evidence that indoctrination works
Tamara, please know that you are an inspiration in truth-telling and courage to many of us who, for whatever reason, aren't able to be as truthful as you are. You are helping so many children, not just now, but into the future as well.
What we are witnessing is the greatest crime of our time.
Nope, the clot shot but this is a close second.
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Tamara, keep fighting for a sane future for our kids! Go, momma go!! ❤
Omg, mindblowing. And in Lithuania general public is completely unaware of these things... Even my friends say that I'm exaggerating when I tell them something about these kind of cases.
I speak out every chance I get. both my daughters, and both my sister's kids have been harmed by the gender cult! Thank you Tamara for speaking out!!!
You and your sister hold blame for exposing your children to this cult.
@@mr.mclibtard5015 we didnt expose them, their school and friends did. We did everything we could to pull them out of it, but they are adults and we have no legal means to protect them from their own decisions. yet we continue to try.
@@rubydunaimangold938 you failed as a parent for not teaching them how to pick their friends. But please continue on telling me you didn't do anything wrong and it's not your fault 🤣
@@mr.mclibtard5015 either you haven't done any research Into this topic, or you are just an sad unhappy person lashing out at others due to your own pain and misery. Either way, how you behave and speak to others is up to you. You get to decide on what kind of person you want to be. You can go through life as a miserable and angry person, or you can make the decision to change your life. I wish you good luck and I hope one day you can find happiness and growth. Meanwhile, this is the last time I will respond because I don't have time to deal with your pain, I need to focus on my children and do whatever I can to help them. Take care of yourself.
@mr.mclibtard5015 are you woke too? because you are entitled asf!
I'm sure you're doing a great job with your own kids!
I give Tamara a lot of credit for standing up. I'm glad she didn't write the letter. She did the right thing. I'm sorry she lost her job over this. Her story illustrates the repercussions of standing up and doing the right thing. This is why most people don't...they don't want to suffer the consequences.
Thank you all for this video and channel. It has been so important.
Keep sharing and lets get more people listening!
"We have to defer to the experts." But, what about the experts in Europe who say this is harmful?
Thank you so much for exploring the terrible harm being done to vulnerable children and teens.
I was on reddit and made a comment something like 'be gay be trans fine but don't harm your body in anyway please ' within a minute a response that was extremely long with" scientific " proof was the response, and finally I was called a trans phobe , I'm not I love people I don't want to see people harm themselves . The regret is heartbreaking. Unreal this is happening it feels engineered.
You got pig piled for not going along with program. Ignore the haters.
The rare occasion someone supplies actual sources then it will quickly become apparent they've never read them.
It's not exactly transphobic to say ppl who identify as trans shouldn't be routinely sterilized. And in your case you literally said don't harm your body. How can anybody using their brain be against that?
I was banned from r/politics for making that reply today btw. I really don’t think you all know what is happening to people that do these major gender surgeries. Not only is it extremely traumatic to the body they now need to take drugs for the rest of their life which is in itself exhausting and unpredictable btw the body may end up rejecting and even fighting against the drugs creating complex issues, among other things I am respectfully not mentioning here look it up. I will withhold further comment for the sake of people that have had the surgeries, I pray you are well and strong we are with you, we want the best for you, however we want to protect the youth from harm that is clear and evident. If you are well please let us know , but if you are suffering please for the sake of the youth come forward and protect them. Please allow open dialogue from both sides of this issue so we can learn as much as possible as fast as possible to reduce suffering
Tamara, if you're reading this, you'll get through this!💗 So many people are supporting you! It's one of those hurdles in your life that needs to be learned and experienced. It sucks right now, but you'll get through this and become stronger in the end. Keep going, awesome lady! 💖
Tamara, I have added you to my perpetual intercessory prayer list. I am in support of your stance on the very sad issue. It’s too bad that our world has come to this point. But unfortunately it’s going to get even far worse.Praying for your strength & your stance, may God be with you & your children 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
I am so grateful for you. You have inspired me to start a conversation on facebook with my local community. In NY state the 2023 Legal Update and Best Practices guide the school to act without a parents knowledge. I donT care if we are talking about a dental hygiene plan the state does not get to be mommy and daddy and I can not stay silent anymore.
Do you mean regarding teachers guidelines? Can you point me to that text?
@@user-rv7ph1jl5y yes, in my comment....google 2023 Legal Update and Best Practices for NY
I am in a red state that has recently passed both anti-DEI and "bathroom" legislation. The parents group astroturfing protests around these issues currently has a very long thread about the "furry threat". I assumed these were exaggerations as we are also a very religious region and this same parents group lobbied against sexual health education in our highschools during the early 2000s and we've always had a rebellious youth punk scene, I assumed if there was any truth to it, these were rebellious kids reacting to being born in the place Footloose was set. Weird times. A healer doesn't give a patient what they want, a pusher does.
This is what integrity looks like; so rare these days with the postmodern nonsense.
And we all know some people are saying, oh this is a lie, she's lying, this is a conservative republican evangelical who is slandering the profession and making all these ridiculous stories up. No, TRAs cannot bear to admit that THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
I hope she doesn't lose her license and even wins her lawsuit. That's the way forward. It's disgusting that her employer has for such a bad reason fired her. They should be held responsible for putting her family at risk.
Everyone involved should lose their license and barred from working in the medical field
They want cheerleaders -- not therapists. It's appalling that so many professionals can be so negligent.
It's a cult. Group think and young vulnerable therapists just go along.
I get that the participants are trying to get across how vicious trans activists are to even the most docile people, but the way they kept mentioning how soft spoken Tamara is also has the effect of reinforcing the idea that being “nice” should garner empathy and respect. Women like KJK have been bashed mercilessly for telling it like it is, most of all by other women. We’re just not used to that and we need more of it. It’s horrifying to me that we’ve come to a place where people don’t see an extremely damaging and fallacious situation and point it out in black and white. We all want to be open-minded but being like, “These people want me to affirm a child who identifies as a wounded dog and I’m not sure if I’m justifiably alarmed; is it just me?”… how is there any confusion? There’s a ton of gaslighting so people are made to think they’re exceptional when most people agree with them, but we have to snap out of it and be the adults in the room. Thankfully many like Tamara have done just that. This seems to be most common among women thanks to gendered conditioning but more generally, we have traded common sense for a warped version of so-called politeness. Some things are flat out crazy and we should all say so without hesitation.
Tamara you have so much courage and integrity. You are being punished for speaking to power and doing the right thing regardless of coercion. The more women there are like you, who have the bravery to hold on to morals and ethics, the better our society will be and I believe the tide will turn against this ideology and coercion directly because of courageous women like you.
This woman is so so brave.
The description of the mandatory training is amazing. The refusal to entertain questions is a hallmark of these ideologies.
This is exactly why we all need to speak up when we disagree with something and the one person who already spoke out is being lambasted. Power in numbers. If you don't chime in, they assume you agree. This is why being silent is being complicit.
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18:20 i do think online vs in person makes a huge difference, but i see another important variable that probably contributed.... Sashas experience was in 2015 and Tamara's was last year. Time _and_ place.. things have changed.
Eg: my sister works in a psych clinic and recently got called a transphobe in a similar situation, in person, by a collegue, for literally nothing. She was only just starting to "get it," still totally affirming, and it happened to her anyway.
The hostility in person occurs in educational training institutions as well to therapists in training. Several have spoken about being berated and humiliated in person classes for simply asking a question.
Your sister should be jailed
When I was a child we called this pretending.It was part of play.
Good job, Tamara! Way to stand up for reason.
I'm doing neurofeedback therapy now and it has been absolutely life changing. I've tried therapy a few times with mixed results (one therapist made things worse) but with neurofeedback therapy my OCD, ADHD, anxiety and depression are all but GONE! I can't believe how effective it's been after a lifetime of searching for help. Contrary to what Sasha says, there is plenty of evidence showing its efficacy and it's been around for decades. Make sure you find a certified practitioner of course, there are charlatans out there just like anything. But they don't "stimulate" you with the electrodes. They put a cap on your head with some gel and then you watch TV and that's it! It's so easy! I wish i would've have done this a long time ago - my life would have been completely different. I can't even explain how good i feel - i feel like a new person. I highly recommend it - it is literally the best thing I've ever done for my mental health!
Totall agree on Neurofeedback therapy. It’s the best treatment modality out there, but the outcome of the treatment highly depends on the skill level of the neurofeedback therapist. Ideally you want to work with someone with a solid understanding of neuroscience. This isn’t the first time Sasha has said something incorrect, such as denying that there is a neurological basis to ADHD, or not understanding how DID/OSDD work. I don’t even think she believes it’s a real disorder, despite the neuroscientific evidence behind this diagnosis as well (no it’s not literally multiple personalities, but the fragmentation of the psyche does genuinely happen, and you end up with severe dissociative amnesia, along with behaviors and a sense of self that are inconsistent across the non-integrated parts of the psyche). All of this denial of neuroscience-based understanding of mental disorders, and a “talk therapy can fix everything” attitude really hurts her credibility in my opinion.
Wow - glad to hear it's been so good for you
How interesting, thank you for sharing.
There are very low level versions of bio-feedback that already earlier generations knew about, and taught as "household tricks". The most common one is the breathing into a paper bag.
15-20 years ago I got interested in this and used a heart rate monitor to train myself to be able to deal with a phobia of steep stairs/climbing (not heights, mainly the act of descending). I should have done more of it, but it already helped so much to know that if I can get my body to not panic that crippling shake-inducing dread will also go away.
Tamara, this is called life, life on life's terms, one day at a time.
We used to call woke, "trendy".
You said it yourself, I just have to be "honest". Not being honest is a real problem, and can lead to many rabbit holes and addictions.
You are brave, and are working toward the "I am courageous award".
It's one of the most important character traits a person could have.
Maybe your future will include teaching counsellors in the future. I would want someone like you teaching my graduate child looking to go into the field. To be able to see more than one side, and keep ethical.
God bless you, and no matter the outcome, even if your care for that individual is not going to be heeded.
You have incredible potential, but I'm sure its not the first time you've been told that.
Thanks for taking care of yourself so we can hold out hope for our grandchildren, too.
Wr win battles, not always the war. Toll then, i support you and thank those who stand with you as you speak for those hurting.
Stay strong and fight the good fight! We can no longer sit on the sidelines or we are complicit in harming people.
Tamara, you have an enormous amount of integrity. Thanks for sharing your story.
I listened to this podcast and had to come here to see everyone's faces. This story is bonkers.
Ny saying "tjis story is bonkers" Do you mean you think that these women are all lying g and there is no problem with "gender affirming care"?
Tamara, you have found your way to the right people in Stella and Sasha. They are the most compassionate soldiers in the battle to save children from automatic transitioning. We are all better for their thoughtful work against the ideology, and you are on the way to getting your career back. We wish you didn't have to go through this, but what is happening in Europe proves that the tide has begun to turn.
No hearing should ever go ahead without the defendant bringing forward opposing expert testimony. And if this is just an internal professional body hearing where they refuse to allow your opposing expert testimony threaten them directly with legal action for abuse of children. Further more if they do allow your opposing expert testimony but still rule against you still sue them anyway. Make the process the punishment just as much as they will try to use that tactic. To be honest their time is running out with the Wpath files and the Cass report so the fact is they are showing willful neglect of minors. Make it clear when the truth is out in the USA and all around the world you will continue to expose their abuse and willful neglect. It's clear you have been providing them with documented evidence for concern.
All my respect to this therapist. She really cares about her patients
This is definitely very Soviet - to go like that after people who disagree or question the established ideology.
Beyond scary. Deep respect to people like Tamara.
It's not Soviet. In the Soviet Union, she would have been disappeared, and anyone who asked any questions about it would be threatened with the same fate. We need to stop comparing the US to the Soviet Union, because at its very worst, the US is/was 500 better than the Soviet Union was at its very best.
That is exactly what this Marxist ideology does
Sending Tamara a virtual hug from Australia 🫂
I was taught that "who you are" ie your identity is based on your morals. As someone with BPD that has processed a lot of my issues, I think they're fixating on the concept of "gender" as what I call an identity template, where one uses a concept in place of their identity as they're figuring themselves out. Usually, these are more like cliques, but this is to a whole new level. If identity is a fluid mental concept, medicalizing children with permanent procedures is not the answer.
I am also one of those people who had no concept of gender until 2021.
Also, because I had a foundation for identity, I never had problems with identity. I just went with the flow so much that I didn't figure myself out until later. However, I understand who dissociating through these crucial developmental stages can cause BPD.
I support you Tamara 💯
"If I just explain what's going on, they'll get it and stop it." That's the feeling I always had with my abusive husband.
My therapist said he’s researching otherkin and identifying as animals… that was my last session cause lmao what
Researching doesn't necessarily mean supporting. You could research the harm caused.
I'm half way through and completely floored. The absolute cult mentality in this field and the harm it is doing to children is going to be one of the greatest stains on humanity in this century.
Donated. Thank you for your courage.
I live in Oregon and have adult autistic children. I'm so thankful they grew up before this got so out of hand. At this point I can't wait to get out of this state and I hope Tamara considers leaving Washington. They will not stop. *Also, homeschool your children and keep them off social media! If you send your children to school you're handing them over to this ideology.
Thank you Tamara, many of us truly appreciate good decent people like yourself who is standing for what is right. I'm sorry not all your friends understand your position, hopefully one day they will. This harm that it's happening to kids and young people as well as vulnerable adults has to stop! I hope you win your case. Please don't give up. Best wishes 🌸
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Take heart! You are coming from the true space of love and caring & are the true justice warrior and while you are feeling alone- there are hundreds of thousands of people who believe in you and your message! We care about you and are sending you prayers and warmth of loving light!
This breaks my heart. I can just feel the concern and compassion from all of you ladies.
Thank you lovely ladies for this so, so needed platform 👏🏼👏🏼🌅🙏🏼
This is rediculous. When i was a teenager i was in therapy for extreme anxiety atacks, i cant immagine if i walked in and said i feel like im dieing and they just affirmed me and said well done you know who you are and yes you are gonna die. The therapist had to work through the issue presented (anxiety attacks) and get to the roots of whats causing it. Same thing here, if a person in therapy says they are a wounded dog (or male or female etc) they need to see that as the presenting issue that needs to be resolved by getting deeper and finding whats causing those feelings. Ignoring the most obvious issue and affirming it means the rest of the therapy is useless
💯 but lets put them on hormones blockers and believe they're the opposite sex! I was in the hospital for multiple medical issues when I was pre-teen and teen. My parents and I agreed with everything the doctors said because they were the experts and they were the ones who knew about the treatment. Glad I wasn't a teen nowadays.
In the UK and here in Australia we have "Whistleblower" legislation to protect employees who speak out against unlawful or nefarious activities. That's how you become a "member"!
I was thinking about that too. I wondered though, if your view that it’s wrong isn’t supported, do you still come under whistleblower protections?
I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Im glad this is getting out. Thanks for this great podcast ❤
This makes me so so sad. I can’t believe this is the mentality in the United States. I have donated to ICONS and I would like to donate to you too. Please don’t give up!!
Thank you for standing up for truth- I am not a religious person but this is the war of good vs evil. Medical & mental health professionals should not coerce a patient should be an objective facilitator …and as WPATH has been caught admitting that there is no true consent by parents and prospective patients. Thank you so much for standing in truth against this horrific ungodly evil.
You have restored my faith in the medical community. Never ever stop doing what you know is right. You are our voice and we are here to support u.
I will admit I am obsessed with this subject and trying to work out why THIS subject obsessed me in particular.
I am also fascinated in the political dissection of early 20th century political movements on the TIK History channel.
What I am listening to here is clearly a "take over". I began my obsession after coming across Jordan Peterson's tortured rants to camera in the wee hours when he challenged bill C16 in 2016 (compelled speech legislation regarding gender).
Stella exclaimed in this video "feels Soviet", having learned the ideological pedigree of National Socialism, Fascism and Marxism I have to concur with James Lindsay's conclusion - this is a political movement that it's adherents have no insight into.
This is a warped outgrowth of a quasi religious cult that manifested itself in the totalitarian European political movements of the early 20th century.
This is so reminiscent of National Socialist Germany during the 1930s and 40s. During those dark years people of conscience were similarly repressed. The ideology expelled hundreds of thousands from their homelands.
I am concerned, people like this poor women are being ejected to satisfy a morbid appeal for sanitation. Germany's political revolution began with an obsessive cleansing.
They started with the factories and it took a few years but the moved onto the disabled and other sectors of society that irritated the shadow aspects of ideology.
Instead of sanitation I believe this neurosis entered the political realm through Occupational Health and Safety.
A friend is damaging their feet having to wear "safety" boots, ironically the HR department is similarly dogmatic - these are for safety if they are damaging you you are at fault.
James Lindsay has done such great work concerning this topic!
The book, The Queering of the American Child, explains the cult aspect very well. All our institutions are captured and they're actively queering education. We need to call them out on it.
Sending Tamara a hug from the UK❤️
Ugh… of course this took place in WA state 😞 I’m starting my clinical training now in WA and I literally became Catholic so I can work in a Christian organization because of craziness like this that is happening in the state. I was shocked when we were told we had to affirm kids… it didn’t sit right the first time I heard it and now with all the evidence coming out against the affirmation model, I’m grateful to be away from it.
Yes! Go into coaching if your license is constantly threatened. You can coach by Zoom in any state. As long as you are just listening, asking questions, not diagnosing and don’t have therapeutic goals for your client, you can coach.
It's disappointing how pessimistic her lawyers are. I mean, I knew things were bad in Washington, but I didn't know they were *that* bad.
But anyway, good for you, Tamara! It makes me so happy to see professionals come out to sound the alarm, even though it's discouraging how badly whistleblowers are treated.
So impressed with Tamara and these other members here. It's soooooo hard to go against the flow to stand for what it right with threat of everything you've worked ethically for and have your livelihood at stake
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You are sooooooo brave!!!!!
A go fund me should be set up for this brave woman.
There are so many people out there that would love to be given the opportunity to show their support for someone they've been waiting for to come along and actually stand up to this insanity. Please start a go fund me so that we feel as if we can contribute
What a great video. You guys do wonderful work. I wish the best of luck to your guest in her path, doesnt sound fun but she's got so much support!
I hope that maybe Tamara can find a new state or place to continue her work. We obviously need mental health professionals who are willing to tell her clients the truth and stand up for us. I hate that she and her family are having to go through this. Thank you all for having this conversation and doing your part in protecting mental health therapy. I just feel really sad for all of the kids caught up in this.
Follow the $
Exactly! The money and the divide, conquer and control agenda. If people can't even be clear about their biological sex, if they can be convinced that the real is unreal and the unreal is real, they will be so easy to control.
As a child, I would tell my friends that I didn't feel girly ENOUGH. "Like boy energy in a girl's body that still wants to be a girl," but I was a fat, emotionally withdrawn child seeking a way of expression through dark clothing and makeup after years of abuse. Of course, I was targeted as being the odd girl out, which only made me feel even more disconnected. A monster. There are so many different issues that could cause feelings of dysphoria. Transition should never be in the top 5 list of options
I agree completely. Transition should never be in the top five options.
It should be the last option, after lots of time and competent therapy THEN I still have issues with it because it's never going to be safe or healthy but at least a person has actually struggled with it instead of self-identfying into a struggle, overnight and taking on the fantastical history of trans. Some people choose to live as trans sexual. Sure. Promoting it as an option is madness.
THIS topic was one of the main reasons I discontinued my masters program to become an LMFT... knowing that my moral compas was going to be a reason I could lose my license. What we are doing to our children is going to be a historical time we reflect on and see how horrific it is.
Come to England, the Cass Review, confirms all your beliefs. All children/people deserve a holistic approach when it comes to health care.
Should have sent him to a vet.
You woman have given me hope that there are some sane and concerned therapist out there.
Her test of conscience and she didn’t sell her soul 👏🏼👏🏼🌅🙏🏼
I'm glad you have whistleblowers in mental health, but you need some financial whistleblowers. Insurance carriers are being ripped off, and hospitals need to supervise doctors who prescribe hormones or surgery without a comprehensive mental health evaluation and treatment. Any life altering elective surgery requires adherence to medications, follow up and the presence of mind to monitor himself for complications and report danger signs promptly.
PLEASE SEND TO TAMARA: I am so sorry that you have had so much to go through. I'm sure it is a very scary time for you. I want to say I am thankful that you stood up for what was right and best for children. I am sure your children are proud of you now. I feel the same way about people not standing for Israel and Jews. I think people are lazy or apathetic and don't want to be inconvenienced. People need to speak out against such horrific agendas. Hope you find this funny. I have a dog who thinks he is a human. I try not to reaffirm his fantasy but do treat him as such.
Truth matters!
Time to go to Florida- Tamara.
I was just going to comment this exact same thing
Maybe a move to a red state. Sanity is refreshing. I so appreciate this interview and the courage of this therapist to stand up for children and truth.
I wish I could hire you as my daughter's therapist. She doesn't like teletherapy, so that's not really an option. I bet if you moved to a different state, you wouldn't have so many restrictions. I definitely understand that isn't a reasonable option for everyone though.
Where are the healthcare unions when it comes to standing up for whistle-blowers?
I'm shocked at how quickly this has happened in our society. What a hard thing for you to go through,Tamara! One day your children are going to realize that their mother is a caring, loving person who also happens to be a hero and they, undoubtedly, will follow suit. My husband and I are older and not able to be in the middle of the "battle," but we say "thank you, thank you" on behalf of our 9 grandchildren and all the other children who are being used by the woke agenda to accomplish their insane goals.
8:18 Stella says that “to agree with a person who says they identify as a wounded male dog is to collude with the dehumanizing…” Yes. Not many years ago, psychiatrists said we should never ever validate the delusions of people with schizophrenia. How is this “identification” with an utterly delusional state any different? While the dysphoric individual is unlikely to bite us (unless they suddenly believe they have a case of rabies) and the schizophrenic person might act violently on their delusion, hurting themselves or others, I fail to see any distinction.
Agreed. And dysphoric people are hurting society. In particular transwomen (biological men) are hurting biological women by going into women's spaces (ie sports, bathrooms, women's prisons, women's awards etc).
Also there was a recent incident in Pennsylvania where a transgirl (biological boy) brutally assaulted a biological girl at a grade school. This "transgirl" also had a hit list of biological girls they wanted to assault.
Yeah, I was psych RN and we weren't supposed to go with their delusions because it was actually more harmful to the patient. I've had patients claiming to be "God" or "Jesus." Should we just go with it??😳
Yes my thoughts too. When those in psychosis identify as God and they demand to be worshipped are these therapists going to oblige?
Why is gender "affirming care" with no questions asked, being pushed so hard by medical establishments? Does it have to do with generating revenue for hospitals by having a new area of possible life long medical care open up? Does wall street invest in it?
It doesn't generate money for hospitals. It's part of the spiritual war.
I am 60yr old transgender man. I had a life time of trauma and have had counseling since i was 16. I worked through all the trauma and I am still in therapy. I came out as Transgender in 2021. I got my current counselor in 2022 and when I met her I asked her to question things as much as she could, my concerns were around could my desire to transition be a result of trauma. She has been wonderful. I know that I am on the right path, I am so much happier and more confident. My therapist is helping that process so much. No I don't think of her as gender affirming, but she does say she agrees that my idea of questioning is important for healthy therapy no matter the issue. She does use my preferred name, which I appreciate. When she had to go on maternity leave she asked me if I would continue therapy with her because she feels like she is learning as well helping me improve my life. I said absolutely.
So im wondering what those people would have told tamara if she had said "i have a pediatric client here who identifies as a serial killer, they havent harmed anyone yet, but they do plan to." Would those same professionals have still directed her to affirm the client as long as the client doesnt think its an issue?!
Like i know my question seems extreme, but realistically, im genuinely concerned about what some of these 'professionals' might actually do in a situation like that
Did I hear that right? "Gift Send Go"? What is the link and how do I help Tamara Pietzke?
It's give send go... I believe the link is in the show notes. Thank you!
It doesn't happen often that Stella and Sasha are stunned into silence for a few seconds.
Tamara's story reminds me of what's happening to (Australian) psychiatrist Dr Jillian Spencer, who is another quietly spoken 'least likely to be a whistleblower' type of person. Dr Spencer has been removed from her role for being 'harmful' and is also under investigation by shameless ideologues who are bent on destroying the livelihoods of any questioners.
Australia seems further gone that most other countries, which is not widely known. The health minister has declined to learn from any of the systematic reviews of evidence (or Dr Cass's report), and "has played down its local relevance by citing differences in pathways to treatment." (From journalist Bernard Lane's excellent substack, Gender Clinic News).
Riiiight… so Australian children are so different from other children that they need different treatment and evidence be damned! Meanwhile, i "Under Victoria's 2021 Change or Suppression (Conversion) Practices Prohibition Act, taking active steps to stand in the way of any person's desire - even a child's - to affirm their new gender is an illegal conversion practice (subject to up to 10 years in jail for cases of serious injury." (From the Sydney Morning Herald).
Tamara, you are right; not only will your children be proud of you, we are all proud and grateful for what you are doing. I join Sasha in saying that in 5 years you will be seen as correctly trying to help children, and if you can piece things together until then you will be able to have an amazing career doing the therapy I'm sure you're very good at.
In answer to why so many intelligent people fall into blind acceptance of gender ideology, I wonder whether it's that some people are invested in looking good by being seen to do good out in the world (eg, are at a lower level of psycho-emotional development, which functions independently of intelligence), whereas others (like Tamara) who see the harm in practicing ideologically are more mature in that domain, and genuinely want to centralise the needs of their patients over their need for validation. In other words, they don't park their curiosity, training, and logical capacities in order to be seen as a hero (aka, they allow themselves to become 'useful idiots' to a larger/darker agenda).