One detail with how you explain the Kuwabara thing: Volgin, everytime we get a rainstorm from sorrow, says it. However during the third time it happens at the defeat of the shagohod he doesn't say it and is struck by lightning.
35:05 actually, what I always thought was that the boss gives snake the legacy when she dies, however, during ocelot and snake's wrestling on the wig, he swaps it with a fake of his and pockets snake's real legacy to give to the CIA. I think this makes more sense because it makes ocelot's final appearance a little more meaningful than just a little show and also provides insurance in case snake like destroys the fake in frustration or something (which in your theory would've been the real one) it seems like a variable that the CIA would just eliminate entirely if possible.
Homie I went through my entire list of 800+ subscriptions and turned off the bell for all of them and turned it on just for you, you're the only content creator that's got me THIS invested into his content
Exigentable I understand times are hard and he’s in desperation mode, but there are alternative ways of monetizing (merch, patreon, sponsors, etc.) If you have to bombard a video with ads every 5 minutes to pay the rent you might as well get a real job. (What I do during the week is irrelevant btw)
Daaaaamn, Kojima needs to talk with you, he must know you exist. I think this is real way these games are meant to be talked about: as a reflection of both the time they where made and the time they represent. I think you even saw and talked about things the author and their crew didn't meant to represent but they seem so spot on we can talk them like actual facts. It's always a good day when you upload a video :D
snake´s emotion is regret, everyone in the cobra unit as an emotion and the boss said that we are too pure we don't carry a emotion but in the end, after he kills the boss, snake regrets killing the boss till the day he dies
@noponwisdom t I will never understand where these weird contrarian readings come from. Is the actual story not fucked up enough for you guys or something
Peace walker unfortunately was overlooked because of being released initially for the psp but is so integral to the final trilogy of the series which could be called the “war for the Boss’s will”.
@@darkmerc02 as someone whos played it several times over, it basically poils down to how history repeats itself, and how the Boss's legacy has changed/influenced geopolitics while showing us her humanity through the tapes she entrusted to Eva. And Vic Boss talks to a cat on a boat to take him to a mysterious island, where he fights dragons and dinosaurs, and cooks Rations on a spit over a camp fire.
I've been playing all the Metal Gear games for the first time these last few months. After finishing Peace Walker and starting MGSV, all I've been saying to myself is 'this is just big Peace Walker' lol
“Peace Walker” had interactive cutscenes in the style of comic book art. It was amazing. I struggled to like the game at the beginning, but it grew on me as I progressed and got the hang of it.
A good week! I'm often still chewing over his previous pieces when he drops a new one. Truly food for thought, makes subsequent playthroughs even more interesting.
10:23 that detail of The Boss doing Ocelot's signature hand gesture to Ocelot himself is a detail that always flew over my head, this game has details in its details, few pieces of media can shows you something new without any modifications to the original work, Snake Eater is just that rich with content. Also great video, dowing all these to around 3 hours can be difficult and I guess I'm the future we will still learning new facts about Snake Eater alone.
She does it a few times, including after Ocelot has his tantrum about the murder of Granin. My friends & I absolutely losing it over this is a fond MGS memory of mine. :)
There's actually 4 endings with Ocelot's duel Option 1: pick the wrong gun, blank and keep single action army for following playthroughs Option 2: Kill people, pick the right gun, blank Option 3: Kill no one, pick the right gun, live round but it goes over his shoulder Option 4: Pick the right gun but don't shoot the last round, ambiguous
@@Handsomeanthony68 Yeah they're pretty obscure details, I only found them cuz I probably played through the damn game like 100+ times and did a bunch of different styles of play
Man, you're a literal Big Boss. I genuinely learned a lot of things from your MGS3 series of videos, and that's a compliment to your amazing work. I have finished Snake Eater 4 times, several years between each run, 2 normal, one Hard, one Extreme, unlocking almost everything, I just love this game that much, I thought I knew everything about it because in addition to my own experience, I watched several dozen videos explaining the story, adding context, a few theories, I was just interested in seeing what other people had to say, add it to my knowledge of the MGS series and especially Snake Eater, and still, I learned a lot from your videos, KUDOs to you mate. I salute you!
How tf did Kojima came with all this story AFTER 4 games and still be this connected? I’m so surprised. Also, this is been an amazing series all the way down. Congrats lad, this is so much quality
When the Boss states "It's raining blood...is he crying?" I believe this is indeed the Sorrow crying for not only Joy but the Cobra Unit as well. This event is not only an emotional and bittersweet reunion for their unit, but just like when he last met Joy in that region there will be death. Death for his love and for his brothers in arms, his entire unit, because at that point there is no turning back for any of them. Bittersweet is certainly how I felt especially when I first played this game because when we first observe the Boss and her Cobra unit, Kojima did a good job making the Cobras feel like a family that transcends any government or organizational allegiances, whom are loyal to each other first and foremost. This family that Snake "the new blood" that "has been rejected" as per The Pain, will be forced to destroy and for reasons that aren't entirely clear for first time players. When we they do become clear, the tragedy of our acts only empower and highlight the importance of the Boss' vision and hopes. (I also want to thank you Mr. Lee, for celebrating and shedding light and comprehension on my favorite series. A series integral to my particular upbringing. You're improving my childhood and your content is the like a true S3 plan for our sanity during these crazy times. lol I feel smarter and following you has also improved how I analyze and understand concepts in writing and themes and I hope to use this to one day craft quality stories of my own. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart Boss.)
I think Big Boss was similarly affected by the Cobra Unit as a family unit of sorts. I don't think it's too outlandish to think he based his ideological approach to Outer Heaven & FOXHOUND on the Cobra Unit, as a group united by their common vocation as soldiers rather than loyalty to a nation or specific mission.
Dude, seriously. 3, hour long, absurdly well researched, edited and scripted documentaries in 3 weeks, mere weeks after your other 3 hour series on MGS5, with shorter videos in between... I need a documentary on how in god's name this is possible. Thank you so much
Did anyone else manage to actually develop symphaty for Volgin? I always believed that not even the cruelest sadist could feel for Volgin. But after seeing futurasound meticulously list the allegiances of each and every involved character/group, I, for the first time, noticed that poor Volgin has been betrayed by everyone. In fact, out of all characters involved, snake was treating volgin with the most honesty lol.
It's generally been accepted and known that one of the reasons for fighting the Cobra Unit was more to teach Naked Snake to overcome all their respective emotions, make him be above them. Although I don't really know what The End is necessarily supposed to represent... But taking the thought to it's conclusion, that part of the operation is an attempt to make him when he becomes Big Boss into a soldier who knows no Pain, Fear, Fury, Sorrow or Joy. Just a machine following orders, with extraordinary skill. A perfect soldier.
I think the end represents the final stage of life: death. When Snake defeats him, he is able to overcome death/the end he even goes on to do it two more times throughout the series.
Your video essays are simply great and in depth.. also, your voice feels oddly soothing, i watch your videos everynight before sleeping, it really helped with my insomnia, dude .. thanks and keep talking about MGS, Godspeed!!
Despite almost knowing it by heart at this point, I always get choked up by Eva's monologue about The Boss at the end of the game. One of the most emotional moments in all of video games for me for sure.
It’s funny, the women of my childhood favorite films Like Terminator and Alien, and my adulthood favorite games like MGS3 were far better female badasses than anything we’ve seen in the last ten years.
This is a GREAT video series, but I find it flawed. I think one of the big things Futurasound gets wrong is that Ocelot's allegiances in Snake Eater shift as the story goes on, his loyalty to the USA isn't static from the beginning. He's playing all sides off each other for his benefit, narrowing down his allegiance as the events progress. For a time Ocelot really wants to kill Snake, but he is ultimately awed and has nothing but respect for Snake in the end. They both triumph throughout the story in their own separate, but connected ways. They are both the real victors, even if the victory for Snake is bittersweet and not what he expected or wanted. Futurasound is also wrong in the analysis that the Cobras are just strawmen who forfeit their lives in sham battles. The Boss has faith in Snake's abilities and betrayed her Cobras similar to the way Olga betrays her men in MGS2. Olga betrays her comrades for the benefit of her child. The Boss wagers the life of the Cobras for the success of her mission because she believes Snake will be able to take them down. I'm sure she uses the transmitter to monitor Snake and position the Cobras against him on the battlefield, but they are there to kill him as far as they are concerned. The Boss is always loyal "to the end", even if that means she knows her men will be killed to achieve her goals.
I have to say, you have seriously given me a whole new prospective on these games and I’m a huge fan of them. I would like to thank you for that. Keep up the good work and can’t wait for Peace Walker
Great video tho, you pointed a lot of stuff I've never really realised. The first time I played this game was as kid, about 6 year's old, when I played with my dad. We played this on repeat, and we were never tired of it. I'm Brazilian, so at the time, we couldn't understand the details of the plot. When I got to middle school and started learning English, I began to understand how crazy was this plot. The more I try to understand this plot, the more I'm confused tho lol Anyway, it is really cool to see how much effort was put into the story, and how much I missed from this master piece.
14:30 I also really like the subtle detail that since the day the Sorrow died, he is always smiling, meanwhile The Boss no longer smiles until the end of the game. I'm not sure if this is ever touched on in-game but I always liked it. 16:32 I wonder if part of The Boss' reluctance to shoot Snake is because she's reliving the moment she killed her lover
So did anyone else get the 3rd outcome from the snake/ocelot duel? I got the revolver with the bullet however i didn't fire the 6th round. And ocelot questions snake to why he didn't fire, and snake just smiles and the scene moves on as usual.
I do like how Snake turned into a different Big Boss than they were ever expecting. I personally feel it's subtext to show that even with all the calculus, shadow political machinations, and decades long international calculus they were all thwarted by the personal feelings of a human. It's quite funny to me how the Patriots/American Philosophers set up this scheme of the hero becoming the villain only to be supplanted by the next hero and it essentially failed on the first go around because they never even considered how a real human would react to these revelations.
You know, I get Bog Boss is a villain but I really can’t blame him. He’s constantly being used and lied to by the people he once thought he could trust most, it makes perfect sense that he would go off and come to horrible conclusions and reject the role that those same people elect is best suited to him. I’m not saying I think he made the right decisions, but I do think it’s worth mentioning that it’s incredibly understandable why he makes the decisions that he does. He wants to resist Cipher, and thus the world, for using him at their own convenience and toying with his heart and mind, not caring at all what he’s given up for them. Makes me wonder why Zero ever thought Big Boss would agree to his demands at all in Peacewalker given all that went down.
Excellent video and perfect analysis. Thank you very much. I'd like to mention a couple of extra fan theories: -Ocelot's Russian roulette trials where he shoots, can be explained with the fact that he doesn't care too much on saving EVA (a Chinese spy that could potentially get her hands on the Legacy in the end) or Sokolov (a scientist that could and will leak precious information on the Shagohod to EVA and he is an asset in the hands of Volgin). EVA's survival is instead protected by The Boss, who practically is on the same side of Ocelot but wants to send a final message to Snake and keeps EVA alive mainly for that reason even keeping Ocelot into place with her slaps. Also there's the scene when Ocelot tries to stop EVA and Snake escaping on the motorbike, but afterwards he leaves them escape with the WIG, so probably it's between these two scenes that Ocelot finds out from The Boss that she kept EVA alive but gave her a fake microfilm and that the real one is still with her. -Volgin could have been the one that handles to The Boss the Legacy fake microfilm, otherwise that would be a very uncautious move. Also at that point the microfilm is on himself and not in the vault anymore, even if the spy (EVA) is captured. He could've revealed the location earlier in the ground vault during Snake's torture just to get the spy exposed. Ocelot says that the smell of gasoline exposed EVA as a spy, meaning he was the one finding her so he could have access to the real legacy which he could have given to The Boss who then gives it to Snake before passing away. That would explain how Ocelot gets in possession of half the legacy (presumably meant for the KGB, but in truth in the hands of Ocelot who'll establish the Patriots with Zero once gained the other half) before the real microfilm is delivered to the CIA passing from Ocelot, to The Boss and to Snake. Only during the fight with Snake Volgin realizes that even his most trusted man Ocelot isn't on his side and doesn't follow his orders and that the real microfilm may not be anymore in his possession. On the other hand, it's more probable that Volgin at that point trusted The Boss enough to give her the real Legacy and that the fake microfilm was never in possession of Volgin to lure a spy but it was in possession of The Boss to be swapped with the real microfilm at the first chance since stealing the real one was her mission.
the sorrows crying blood is left open to interpretation? no it's really not, the boss killed the sorrow on a mission by shooting him in the eye. His glasses break in one eye and then his eye bleeds. This is symbolic too of him essentially being the progenitor big boss in terms of role, he lost an eye. This is where the boss learned about her ideals on the changing of the tides, how yesterdays friends are tomorrows enemies, the sorrow was her lover and she had to kill him. granted I don't really remember how much of this info is from mgs3 codecs directly and how much is from peacewalker adendums but I'm fairly certain its purely contained in mgs3.
Yah, I like to think The Boss' slapping Ocelot is a moment of genuinely losing her cool; seeing her lil protege's eye getting shot must've dredged up what is essentially her worst memory. Mission or no, son or no, there was probably a split second there where Ocelot was about to get CQC'd into little pieces.
I have no idea how many times I've seen this story from beginning to end. From here to MGS 4 but God dammit I love hearing, reading and watching it every single time 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Bravo Sir
Just when you think there can't be anything more to discuss about the MGS series you always find a new avenue a new theory another perspective! 10 years after the game has been released it's as fresh as ever.Your passion and research is definitely felt. I look forward to the next. Thanks,Boss. Edit: I caught that Eva's warm cave lol
Thank you for your observation about the microfilm and the Philosopher's legacy. I long have thought this very thing myself. This game's story is such meticulously crafted spycraft. Love your work, Boss.
Hey Boss, I'm a big fan of MGS and yours. Your attention to detail and analysis is top notch, and your viewpoint and speculations are nearly identical to mine. In fact, you've noted and pointed out several things in the series that I wouldn't have to put together myself. So, thanks for that. HOWEVER, nearly every MGS theory or analysis video gets at least ONE thing wrong (in my opinion); Big Boss, like The Boss before him, NEVER actually became a villain. He's only painted as a Villain by Zero, and later The Patriot AI's, because he wouldn't play along with them, and was a threat to their system of control. I'd love a video that talks about that, whether it's to agree and highlight this overlooked opinion/theory, or to completely disprove it. Your call Boss...
I wouldn't even, necessarily, say Zero is entirely responsible. His organization (Cypher) got out of control. Neither, were really villains. They just had opposing philosophies, and misunderstood things, about each other, and the Boss's will. The rest of the world filled in the gaps, with their own misunderstandings, and personal dislikes.
about ocelot's roulette games, i have heard somewhere before that it's actually an assassination technique that he came up with, since he does not know where the bullet is, but he does know what gun the bullet is in
I know it's been some time since this video was launched, but I just wanted to thank you for your work, that makes all of us MGS fans enjoy and appreciate those games even more. Until next time, boss
Masterful analysis! I just wanted to pose one more idea concerning the microfilm to you. In the cutscene, we see Snake disdainfully toss the microfilm aside. However, he is in a pretty fragile emotional state right now, learning that Eva betrayed him but even more than that fully intended on killing him, despite the seemingly genuine emotional connection they formed. I always interpreted Snake tossing the true film away not because he concluded it was a fake, but because he understood he managed to keep control of the true Legacy at the cost of his mentor, his lover, and in a way, he lost his own innocence. The curtain was pulled back and Snake didn't like what he saw, so to speak. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
I think you’re right in a lot of ways, but Snake would IMO not have realized some of what EVA is saying isn’t true. I don’t even think Snake really realizes until much later that getting the Legacy was really his true mission, because he wasn’t in the need to know so to speak. Then again, as I say in the video, there are only calculated guesses in intelligence, so it’s not exactly definitive one way or the other.
Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater is my favorite game of all time!! It has everything to me. Action, Betrayal, and great music. It's truly one of the most complete games ever made. The story has twist and turns that you never see coming when you first play it. I loved the deep dive you did into the 3 parts of the story. Ocelot over time has become a great character to me, thou I feel like I never truly know him or what he's up to. I so look forward to all the games getting this deep dive from your channel. Thanks for the great content.
Is Big Boss really a dictator and a world menace? As far as my knowledge of the franchise goes (I've played 3 and V, and know the broad strokes of the whole story of the other ones), his actions all have the objective of stopping global powers from treating soldiers as disposable assets like they did with The Boss and later himself; he uses his army and resources to disarm nuclear weapons and tries to build a safe haven for soldiers neglected by their countries. This path comes with a fair share of morally questionable decisions, but I don't think he is really a villain; even if the US/The Patriots/History tries to depict him as one.
In MG & MG2 he uses child soldiers and victims of war paired with nuclear weapons to force the world to bend to his will. These games are old & no one plays them but they really effect all MGS titles that come later. In the first two Big Boss might have good intentions (stopping the patriots) but he‘s a Monster in his actions.
Having played all the mainline Metal Gear games, I think Big Boss became one of my favorite characters in the media, if not in fiction. I know I'm supposed to like Solid Snake more, as he is overall a better person, but I can't help but find Big Boss' story more compelling. Playing MG2 after MGS3 hits really hard when you get to the final fight with Big Boss, not only because you're fighting the Snake you know and came a long journey with, but also because it's a similar scenario to what The Boss and Snake had back in MGS3, only without the introspective look (well, it is there retroactively via MGS1, but not directly in MG2). You're unambiguously one of the good guys, you saved the day, you stopped a global threat, and you did exactly as you were told by your higher-ups, removing the only credible threat to the Patriots. Damn it, I love this series.
Only thing off from the timeline... The Boss says the original members of the Wisemen's Committee died in the '30s, which is right before WWII. This means by the time of the war and 1964, the 'Founding' Philosophers were already ready replaced by the 'Corrupt' Philosophers. As we do not know how the new Philosophers were structured (number of Committee members, able to function without the Legacy or even whether the Legacy started by them or just the half that was recovered, the 'Corrupt' Philosophers possibly splitting into two, etc.), The Boss' 'endless battle' started from her father's death and sadly carried on to Big Boss when she died, making her give him 'her' mission to end the 'Corrupt' Philosophers.
I didnt understand some story parts of the game and after coming across your videos about mgs3 i watched all of them now I understand the story a little more thanks.
Very excited for Peace Walker, being the only game in the series I haven't played myself. I've been filling in a lot of the blanks with your other videos, but I'm keen to see it all laid out with your characteristic completeness. Good luck, Boss!
"The second game chronologically: Peace Walker." Me: Bruh. Portable Ops is the second and is canon. Kojima may not have directed as he was busy with MGS4 but still contributed to it. It's referenced at the beginning of Peace Walker by Kaz in the tutorial area of the first mission after the opening tutorial on the beach in the rain. It is included in the PS3 Metal Gear Database, an official Wikipedia-style application to allow players to read up on the Metal Gear canon before MGS4's release. Portable Ops include some inconsistencies such as Sokolov somehow surviving, however the Metal Gear series is no stranger to inconsistencies and ret-cons. Plus we never actually confirmed if Sokolov actually died. Volgin may have said he was dead to demoralise Snake by making think he'd failed one of his objectives but in reality Sokolov was barely still alive. His survival could be due to Ocelot who brought him along with Granin's metal gear plans to the west. The game's story is also significant in Naked Snake's shift to becoming Big Boss as it is the turning point when Snake has to face up to becoming The Boss's successor and shifting from simply being a soldier to a commander. It also provides a neat look at Metal Gear development with the ICBM Metal Gear and shows some of Zero's earliest moves to form Cipher/the Patriots, wipe out the Philosophers and secure the entirety of the Legacy. Oh and a young version of Roy Campbell's in it.
If I could play as "The Boss" , what a game that would be. Awesome as hell video!! This went so deep for me, I almost feel I'm not worthy to touch this game again.
I absolutely love these videos! My one complaint is I wish you would've talked about snake meeting the president and being named big boss, and how he passed by the cia director without shaking his hand as well as passing by zero. I think he did this because he didn't like what the cia did to the boss in making her a scapegoat and criminal to her country. Also with him passing by zero because he knew a lot about what the mission really was, and didn't let snake know. Because snake felt betrayed by his country for letting the boss die is what leads him down the path to become the 'villain' big boss.
Hey man, amazing video as always. You´re doing the Lord´s work with these essays. I just wanted to comment about two issues of the game and hear your thoughts about them. The first one´s about your take on the Legacy microfilm. I f I understood you correctly, you said that the Boss handed two microfilms both to Snake and Eva, and that you don´t even think that the Boss told Eva that she had given Snake any microfilm at all. In that case, Eva would think that the Boss was actually on the Chinese side, and handed her over the real microfilm. I don´t think there´s any real evidence for Eva to think that the Boss had any allegiance to China, besides her having been an instructor in a charm school. Unlike Snake, who had been kept in the dark with regards to the Legacy mission to keep thinking the Boss was evil and not hesitate to defeat her, Eva knew all along her mission was to steal the Legacy. Therefore, she should had been previously briefed that the Boss was actually on China´s side, and that she would hand her over real microfilm. Because that didn´t happen , Eva shouldn´t have trusted for one second that the Boss was giving her anything but a fake. And I say that it didn´t happen because, even in the case that the Boss had pretended to the Chinese she was an asset to them, I think Eva would have told Snake in the final tape that the boss was a Chinese agent all along -at least that´s what she would think-. Instead, she breaks into tears saying how much of a patriot she was. Meaning American patriot. Maybe I´m missing something, but I just fail to see how things hold up in that scenario. Instead, if you don´t mind, I´d like to show you my take on what happened: The Boss hands Snake over the real microfilm before her death. This event is being monitored from the distance by Eva and Ocelot -independently-. Eva is watching it to make sure Snake gets the microfilm. Ocelot is watching to see in what pocket Snake is putting it. After that he raids the WIG and gets into a fist fight with Snake. It´s during this fight that Ocelot will reach into Snake´s pocket and swap the microfilm with a fake of his own. Neither Eva nor Snake can see Ocelot doing it -Snake is too up close, not to mention he´s lost an eye, and Eva is too busy focusing on flying the plane-. It seems Ocelot knows in advance Snake has no formal training in piloting planes, so that it will have to be Snake himself the one to confront him physically while Eva will do the flying, thus allowing him to get very close to Snake. Once he has it, he goes away with the real microfilm, not jeopardizing it by letting it be too close to Eva for too long. In the cabin Eva has another fake microfilm she swaps for Snake´s believing he has the real one, but in fact both microfilms in the cabin are fake. In other words, there are three microfilms, one true, two fake. This explains why Ocelot would attempt to risk his own life in getting into the plane and battle with Snake, beyond mere flamboyance. The other issue I have with the story is the character of Eva. Namely the fact that she should know she is being played by the Americans all along. First, she is impersonating a defector that the Americans should know everything about, face and all. I f I meet an agent while I´m impersonating being someone from their own country, I would expect that agent to find out I´m not that person right off the bat. let alone letting me join the mission without even knowing the spy password -a pretty standard procedure-. She even says in the final tape that both NSA defectors were men. How the hell is she so confident about playing her role as an impersonator if the fact that she is a woman is blowing her cover the whole time? Now, a few nitpicky things about her: She says in the tape that Adam didn´t show up in the abandoned building, saving her the trouble to eliminate him. In any case, she would have had to kill Adam, and also Eva, and then impersonate the latter. What´s with the password scene? Zero wants Eva to join the mission because he knows that she´s from China, and thus he can keep that rival in check by monitoring her. However, for the meeting, he gives Snake the password but doesn´t move his threads to relay it to Eva. Instead, I´m assuming, he tells Ocelot to arrange for a group of soldiers to be there so that she can kill them in from of Snake so that he can trust her. And one final thing. I think you covered this in the previous video but I didn´t quite get it. It is established that Sokolov and Eva are lovers, which you assumed is a sort of collusion to keep Sokolov in contact with the KGB. However, when Snake meets him in the lab, he says Tanya´s actually Volgin´s lover. Why does he change his cover story with Snake? If you ´ve reached down here, congrats, and sorry! Keep up the good work!
Absolutely loved this. Currently playing through the MGS series, just finished three, almost done with Peace Walker as we speak. Very excited for the potential of a Peace Walker Version, keep it up!
One detail with how you explain the Kuwabara thing: Volgin, everytime we get a rainstorm from sorrow, says it. However during the third time it happens at the defeat of the shagohod he doesn't say it and is struck by lightning.
All you had to do, was to say the damn words, Volgin.
Yo that’s so cool
'We are all dead men forced to walk upon this earth' Is my favourite quote from Skull Face. I guess it kind of applies here
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When did he say that?
@@Kondzino uhhhh think it was the infamous carpool
35:05 actually, what I always thought was that the boss gives snake the legacy when she dies, however, during ocelot and snake's wrestling on the wig, he swaps it with a fake of his and pockets snake's real legacy to give to the CIA.
I think this makes more sense because it makes ocelot's final appearance a little more meaningful than just a little show and also provides insurance in case snake like destroys the fake in frustration or something (which in your theory would've been the real one) it seems like a variable that the CIA would just eliminate entirely if possible.
Homie I went through my entire list of 800+ subscriptions and turned off the bell for all of them and turned it on just for you, you're the only content creator that's got me THIS invested into his content
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It do be like that, yo.
If you’re in ads I guess
@@vhs6055 bruh the guy needs to eat and pay rent he makes content 100 hours a week. Wtf do you do 100 hours a week?
Exigentable I understand times are hard and he’s in desperation mode, but there are alternative ways of monetizing (merch, patreon, sponsors, etc.) If you have to bombard a video with ads every 5 minutes to pay the rent you might as well get a real job. (What I do during the week is irrelevant btw)
Daaaaamn, Kojima needs to talk with you, he must know you exist. I think this is real way these games are meant to be talked about: as a reflection of both the time they where made and the time they represent.
I think you even saw and talked about things the author and their crew didn't meant to represent but they seem so spot on we can talk them like actual facts.
It's always a good day when you upload a video :D
snake´s emotion is regret, everyone in the cobra unit as an emotion and the boss said that we are too pure we don't carry a emotion but in the end, after he kills the boss, snake regrets killing the boss till the day he dies
@noponwisdom t I will never understand where these weird contrarian readings come from. Is the actual story not fucked up enough for you guys or something
43:13 One of the things I notice when watching replays of MGS3 is how dang good it looks, even today.
How do you even keep pumping out such quality content this fast boss? make sure to head back to base for some R&R.
@Caiden Timothy Yup, have been using flixzone for since december myself :D
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He's actually the secret fifth Patriot AI, called JL.....the mastermind over all of them!
I can't wait for Peacewalker. I never had the opportunity to play it so I'm eagerly waiting to hear how it connects MGS3 and 5.
Peace walker unfortunately was overlooked because of being released initially for the psp but is so integral to the final trilogy of the series which could be called the “war for the Boss’s will”.
@@darkmerc02 as someone whos played it several times over, it basically poils down to how history repeats itself, and how the Boss's legacy has changed/influenced geopolitics while showing us her humanity through the tapes she entrusted to Eva. And Vic Boss talks to a cat on a boat to take him to a mysterious island, where he fights dragons and dinosaurs, and cooks Rations on a spit over a camp fire.
I've been playing all the Metal Gear games for the first time these last few months. After finishing Peace Walker and starting MGSV, all I've been saying to myself is 'this is just big Peace Walker' lol
I couldn’t agree more
“Peace Walker” had interactive cutscenes in the style of comic book art. It was amazing.
I struggled to like the game at the beginning, but it grew on me as I progressed and got the hang of it.
It's a good day when futurasound uploads.
A good week! I'm often still chewing over his previous pieces when he drops a new one. Truly food for thought, makes subsequent playthroughs even more interesting.
What a generic thing to say
indeed
Always
Not when it’s about Cyberpunk
10:23 that detail of The Boss doing Ocelot's signature hand gesture to Ocelot himself is a detail that always flew over my head, this game has details in its details, few pieces of media can shows you something new without any modifications to the original work, Snake Eater is just that rich with content. Also great video, dowing all these to around 3 hours can be difficult and I guess I'm the future we will still learning new facts about Snake Eater alone.
She does it a few times, including after Ocelot has his tantrum about the murder of Granin. My friends & I absolutely losing it over this is a fond MGS memory of mine. :)
I find the few interactions between Boss and Ocelot so fascinating knowing their mother and son
Thanks to maxxor I can't imagine ocelot talking to someone without starting with "So (name) is it true in capitalist America.."
God the ending to this game has me in tears everytime.dies for her country and her country completely betrayed her.
thats freedumb sun 🇺🇸🦅🛢
There's actually 4 endings with Ocelot's duel
Option 1: pick the wrong gun, blank and keep single action army for following playthroughs
Option 2: Kill people, pick the right gun, blank
Option 3: Kill no one, pick the right gun, live round but it goes over his shoulder
Option 4: Pick the right gun but don't shoot the last round, ambiguous
Holy shit really? I never caught that!
@@Handsomeanthony68 Yeah they're pretty obscure details, I only found them cuz I probably played through the damn game like 100+ times and did a bunch of different styles of play
This game had so many details that till this day we are still disacting it.
Wait what about if you spin the revolver?
@@zyxluz4645 I don't think I ever tried that
Man, you're a literal Big Boss. I genuinely learned a lot of things from your MGS3 series of videos, and that's a compliment to your amazing work. I have finished Snake Eater 4 times, several years between each run, 2 normal, one Hard, one Extreme, unlocking almost everything, I just love this game that much, I thought I knew everything about it because in addition to my own experience, I watched several dozen videos explaining the story, adding context, a few theories, I was just interested in seeing what other people had to say, add it to my knowledge of the MGS series and especially Snake Eater, and still, I learned a lot from your videos, KUDOs to you mate. I salute you!
How tf did Kojima came with all this story AFTER 4 games and still be this connected? I’m so surprised. Also, this is been an amazing series all the way down. Congrats lad, this is so much quality
Man the Snake Eater theme gives me the shivers. Great theme and great ending of Part 3
When the Boss states "It's raining blood...is he crying?" I believe this is indeed the Sorrow crying for not only Joy but the Cobra Unit as well. This event is not only an emotional and bittersweet reunion for their unit, but just like when he last met Joy in that region there will be death. Death for his love and for his brothers in arms, his entire unit, because at that point there is no turning back for any of them.
Bittersweet is certainly how I felt especially when I first played this game because when we first observe the Boss and her Cobra unit, Kojima did a good job making the Cobras feel like a family that transcends any government or organizational allegiances, whom are loyal to each other first and foremost. This family that Snake "the new blood" that "has been rejected" as per The Pain, will be forced to destroy and for reasons that aren't entirely clear for first time players. When we they do become clear, the tragedy of our acts only empower and highlight the importance of the Boss' vision and hopes.
(I also want to thank you Mr. Lee, for celebrating and shedding light and comprehension on my favorite series. A series integral to my particular upbringing. You're improving my childhood and your content is the like a true S3 plan for our sanity during these crazy times. lol
I feel smarter and following you has also improved how I analyze and understand concepts in writing and themes and I hope to use this to one day craft quality stories of my own. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart Boss.)
I think Big Boss was similarly affected by the Cobra Unit as a family unit of sorts. I don't think it's too outlandish to think he based his ideological approach to Outer Heaven & FOXHOUND on the Cobra Unit, as a group united by their common vocation as soldiers rather than loyalty to a nation or specific mission.
Dude, seriously. 3, hour long, absurdly well researched, edited and scripted documentaries in 3 weeks, mere weeks after your other 3 hour series on MGS5, with shorter videos in between... I need a documentary on how in god's name this is possible. Thank you so much
No job?
Today is my 32nd birthday and i'm going to start it by watching an hour long video about a game that I played when I was 16.
Happy Birthday 🎂
I hope you have an amazing day. Happy birthday, Boss! 🍻
Happy birthday Boss!
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Did anyone else manage to actually develop symphaty for Volgin?
I always believed that not even the cruelest sadist could feel for Volgin.
But after seeing futurasound meticulously list the allegiances of each and every involved character/group, I, for the first time, noticed that poor Volgin has been betrayed by everyone.
In fact, out of all characters involved, snake was treating volgin with the most honesty lol.
It's generally been accepted and known that one of the reasons for fighting the Cobra Unit was more to teach Naked Snake to overcome all their respective emotions, make him be above them. Although I don't really know what The End is necessarily supposed to represent...
But taking the thought to it's conclusion, that part of the operation is an attempt to make him when he becomes Big Boss into a soldier who knows no Pain, Fear, Fury, Sorrow or Joy. Just a machine following orders, with extraordinary skill. A perfect soldier.
I think the end represents the final stage of life: death. When Snake defeats him, he is able to overcome death/the end he even goes on to do it two more times throughout the series.
Your video essays are simply great and in depth.. also, your voice feels oddly soothing, i watch your videos everynight before sleeping, it really helped with my insomnia, dude .. thanks and keep talking about MGS, Godspeed!!
Man u are awesome, holy shit I've never seen a channel so dedicated to a game, especially a franchise as complex as metal gear
How does this man put out such high quality videos and so fast
Despite almost knowing it by heart at this point, I always get choked up by Eva's monologue about The Boss at the end of the game. One of the most emotional moments in all of video games for me for sure.
I give my like, not for honor, but for you...
It’s funny, the women of my childhood favorite films Like Terminator and Alien, and my adulthood favorite games like MGS3 were far better female badasses than anything we’ve seen in the last ten years.
This is a GREAT video series, but I find it flawed.
I think one of the big things Futurasound gets wrong is that Ocelot's allegiances in Snake Eater shift as the story goes on, his loyalty to the USA isn't static from the beginning. He's playing all sides off each other for his benefit, narrowing down his allegiance as the events progress. For a time Ocelot really wants to kill Snake, but he is ultimately awed and has nothing but respect for Snake in the end. They both triumph throughout the story in their own separate, but connected ways. They are both the real victors, even if the victory for Snake is bittersweet and not what he expected or wanted.
Futurasound is also wrong in the analysis that the Cobras are just strawmen who forfeit their lives in sham battles. The Boss has faith in Snake's abilities and betrayed her Cobras similar to the way Olga betrays her men in MGS2. Olga betrays her comrades for the benefit of her child. The Boss wagers the life of the Cobras for the success of her mission because she believes Snake will be able to take them down. I'm sure she uses the transmitter to monitor Snake and position the Cobras against him on the battlefield, but they are there to kill him as far as they are concerned. The Boss is always loyal "to the end", even if that means she knows her men will be killed to achieve her goals.
I’d obviously disagree, but that’s the beauty of MGS as a spy series. Often there are no facts, only interpretations - and yours is as good as mine.
I have to say, you have seriously given me a whole new prospective on these games and I’m a huge fan of them. I would like to thank you for that. Keep up the good work and can’t wait for Peace Walker
Great video tho, you pointed a lot of stuff I've never really realised.
The first time I played this game was as kid, about 6 year's old, when I played with my dad. We played this on repeat, and we were never tired of it. I'm Brazilian, so at the time, we couldn't understand the details of the plot.
When I got to middle school and started learning English, I began to understand how crazy was this plot.
The more I try to understand this plot, the more I'm confused tho lol
Anyway, it is really cool to see how much effort was put into the story, and how much I missed from this master piece.
14:30 I also really like the subtle detail that since the day the Sorrow died, he is always smiling, meanwhile The Boss no longer smiles until the end of the game. I'm not sure if this is ever touched on in-game but I always liked it.
16:32 I wonder if part of The Boss' reluctance to shoot Snake is because she's reliving the moment she killed her lover
So did anyone else get the 3rd outcome from the snake/ocelot duel? I got the revolver with the bullet however i didn't fire the 6th round. And ocelot questions snake to why he didn't fire, and snake just smiles and the scene moves on as usual.
Would love some videos about certain fan theories like the 'Zanzibar is Groznigrad' one you briefly touched on
I do like how Snake turned into a different Big Boss than they were ever expecting. I personally feel it's subtext to show that even with all the calculus, shadow political machinations, and decades long international calculus they were all thwarted by the personal feelings of a human. It's quite funny to me how the Patriots/American Philosophers set up this scheme of the hero becoming the villain only to be supplanted by the next hero and it essentially failed on the first go around because they never even considered how a real human would react to these revelations.
You know, I get Bog Boss is a villain but I really can’t blame him. He’s constantly being used and lied to by the people he once thought he could trust most, it makes perfect sense that he would go off and come to horrible conclusions and reject the role that those same people elect is best suited to him. I’m not saying I think he made the right decisions, but I do think it’s worth mentioning that it’s incredibly understandable why he makes the decisions that he does. He wants to resist Cipher, and thus the world, for using him at their own convenience and toying with his heart and mind, not caring at all what he’s given up for them. Makes me wonder why Zero ever thought Big Boss would agree to his demands at all in Peacewalker given all that went down.
Excellent video and perfect analysis. Thank you very much.
I'd like to mention a couple of extra fan theories:
-Ocelot's Russian roulette trials where he shoots, can be explained with the fact that he doesn't care too much on saving EVA (a Chinese spy that could potentially get her hands on the Legacy in the end) or Sokolov (a scientist that could and will leak precious information on the Shagohod to EVA and he is an asset in the hands of Volgin). EVA's survival is instead protected by The Boss, who practically is on the same side of Ocelot but wants to send a final message to Snake and keeps EVA alive mainly for that reason even keeping Ocelot into place with her slaps. Also there's the scene when Ocelot tries to stop EVA and Snake escaping on the motorbike, but afterwards he leaves them escape with the WIG, so probably it's between these two scenes that Ocelot finds out from The Boss that she kept EVA alive but gave her a fake microfilm and that the real one is still with her.
-Volgin could have been the one that handles to The Boss the Legacy fake microfilm, otherwise that would be a very uncautious move. Also at that point the microfilm is on himself and not in the vault anymore, even if the spy (EVA) is captured. He could've revealed the location earlier in the ground vault during Snake's torture just to get the spy exposed.
Ocelot says that the smell of gasoline exposed EVA as a spy, meaning he was the one finding her so he could have access to the real legacy which he could have given to The Boss who then gives it to Snake before passing away.
That would explain how Ocelot gets in possession of half the legacy (presumably meant for the KGB, but in truth in the hands of Ocelot who'll establish the Patriots with Zero once gained the other half) before the real microfilm is delivered to the CIA passing from Ocelot, to The Boss and to Snake.
Only during the fight with Snake Volgin realizes that even his most trusted man Ocelot isn't on his side and doesn't follow his orders and that the real microfilm may not be anymore in his possession.
On the other hand, it's more probable that Volgin at that point trusted The Boss enough to give her the real Legacy and that the fake microfilm was never in possession of Volgin to lure a spy but it was in possession of The Boss to be swapped with the real microfilm at the first chance since stealing the real one was her mission.
Yo I was literally asking myself yesterday if today would be the day for part 3. I salute you my friend, keep the content rolling
the sorrows crying blood is left open to interpretation? no it's really not, the boss killed the sorrow on a mission by shooting him in the eye. His glasses break in one eye and then his eye bleeds. This is symbolic too of him essentially being the progenitor big boss in terms of role, he lost an eye. This is where the boss learned about her ideals on the changing of the tides, how yesterdays friends are tomorrows enemies, the sorrow was her lover and she had to kill him.
granted I don't really remember how much of this info is from mgs3 codecs directly and how much is from peacewalker adendums but I'm fairly certain its purely contained in mgs3.
Yah, I like to think The Boss' slapping Ocelot is a moment of genuinely losing her cool; seeing her lil protege's eye getting shot must've dredged up what is essentially her worst memory. Mission or no, son or no, there was probably a split second there where Ocelot was about to get CQC'd into little pieces.
Been eagerly waiting for this one
I guess he “kept ya waiting”, huh?
😁😉
Same
14:52 WHAT? WHY WASN'T I AWARE OF THIS? HOLY SHIT
I have no idea how many times I've seen this story from beginning to end. From here to MGS 4 but God dammit I love hearing, reading and watching it every single time 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Bravo Sir
Keep this up dure, every thing you do is amazing
Amazing! They will tell stories about this one, Boss
Peace Walker is the third game chronologically, Portable Ops is the second game chronologically
Just when you think there can't be anything more to discuss about the MGS series you always find a new avenue a new theory another perspective! 10 years after the game has been released it's as fresh as ever.Your passion and research is definitely felt. I look forward to the next. Thanks,Boss.
Edit: I caught that Eva's warm cave lol
Damn man… your analysis is incredible! You’re only adding to my already overwhelming love of this franchise! Thank you.
This videos are the only reason I pay my internet bill, stunning work and research man keep it up
I think you're gonna have to do one of these "What happens" series for each Metal Gear. I know 2 needs it!
I listened to this entire series like a podcast while I was at work. Super duper awesome. You are really really good at analysis.
Only finished this game for the first time a few weeks ago, so this analysis is great!
Thank you for your observation about the microfilm and the Philosopher's legacy. I long have thought this very thing myself. This game's story is such meticulously crafted spycraft. Love your work, Boss.
That river with The Sorrow always sends chills through me. A real ghost in MGS.
I really enjoy your content, disappointed did not cover the Fury. I feel that was kind of integral to the whole revenge motif found in MGS V.
Hey Boss, I'm a big fan of MGS and yours. Your attention to detail and analysis is top notch, and your viewpoint and speculations are nearly identical to mine. In fact, you've noted and pointed out several things in the series that I wouldn't have to put together myself. So, thanks for that. HOWEVER, nearly every MGS theory or analysis video gets at least ONE thing wrong (in my opinion); Big Boss, like The Boss before him, NEVER actually became a villain. He's only painted as a Villain by Zero, and later The Patriot AI's, because he wouldn't play along with them, and was a threat to their system of control. I'd love a video that talks about that, whether it's to agree and highlight this overlooked opinion/theory, or to completely disprove it. Your call Boss...
I wouldn't even, necessarily, say Zero is entirely responsible. His organization (Cypher) got out of control. Neither, were really villains. They just had opposing philosophies, and misunderstood things, about each other, and the Boss's will. The rest of the world filled in the gaps, with their own misunderstandings, and personal dislikes.
about ocelot's roulette games, i have heard somewhere before that it's actually an assassination technique that he came up with, since he does not know where the bullet is, but he does know what gun the bullet is in
I know it's been some time since this video was launched, but I just wanted to thank you for your work, that makes all of us MGS fans enjoy and appreciate those games even more. Until next time, boss
the boss is amazing a legendary character with only one game!
Masterful analysis! I just wanted to pose one more idea concerning the microfilm to you. In the cutscene, we see Snake disdainfully toss the microfilm aside. However, he is in a pretty fragile emotional state right now, learning that Eva betrayed him but even more than that fully intended on killing him, despite the seemingly genuine emotional connection they formed. I always interpreted Snake tossing the true film away not because he concluded it was a fake, but because he understood he managed to keep control of the true Legacy at the cost of his mentor, his lover, and in a way, he lost his own innocence. The curtain was pulled back and Snake didn't like what he saw, so to speak. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
I think you’re right in a lot of ways, but Snake would IMO not have realized some of what EVA is saying isn’t true. I don’t even think Snake really realizes until much later that getting the Legacy was really his true mission, because he wasn’t in the need to know so to speak. Then again, as I say in the video, there are only calculated guesses in intelligence, so it’s not exactly definitive one way or the other.
Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater is my favorite game of all time!! It has everything to me. Action, Betrayal, and great music. It's truly one of the most complete games ever made. The story has twist and turns that you never see coming when you first play it. I loved the deep dive you did into the 3 parts of the story. Ocelot over time has become a great character to me, thou I feel like I never truly know him or what he's up to. I so look forward to all the games getting this deep dive from your channel. Thanks for the great content.
Do you have a discord?
really nice explanation. I know much about MGS3 story line, but by your video I learned many new things!
What a thrill! Awesome analysis. Can't wait for Peace Walker!
Your content is the best, really enjoyed
The work you put in every video is impressive! Keep it up! And thanks sharing your passion!
@45:51 That look Snake gives EVA was fking hilarious back in the day when I first played the game. Man....it's been so long.
It's crazy how well-done these videos are. Awesome work!
Awesome another part. I'm glad I found your content through the algorithm dude, so much detail on such a great game series.
Very good series of videos, thank you.
brilliant work. i'm glad i've chanced upon it.
Now all you need to do is What even happened in mgs1, 2, 4 and peace walker. Oh wait. That’s a _lot._
He already said in this video that he's going through the series chronologically, Peace Walker is next.
@@intandemdj If it's chronological, portable ops is next. It's canon, whether people like it, or not.
This is one of my favorite game of all time, such an amazing story and that ending got me. Futuresound, you are a legend.
Is Big Boss really a dictator and a world menace? As far as my knowledge of the franchise goes (I've played 3 and V, and know the broad strokes of the whole story of the other ones), his actions all have the objective of stopping global powers from treating soldiers as disposable assets like they did with The Boss and later himself; he uses his army and resources to disarm nuclear weapons and tries to build a safe haven for soldiers neglected by their countries. This path comes with a fair share of morally questionable decisions, but I don't think he is really a villain; even if the US/The Patriots/History tries to depict him as one.
In MG & MG2 he uses child soldiers and victims of war paired with nuclear weapons to force the world to bend to his will.
These games are old & no one plays them but they really effect all MGS titles that come later. In the first two Big Boss might have good intentions (stopping the patriots) but he‘s a Monster in his actions.
Great video! Currently watching all your older videos as well
Having played all the mainline Metal Gear games, I think Big Boss became one of my favorite characters in the media, if not in fiction.
I know I'm supposed to like Solid Snake more, as he is overall a better person, but I can't help but find Big Boss' story more compelling. Playing MG2 after MGS3 hits really hard when you get to the final fight with Big Boss, not only because you're fighting the Snake you know and came a long journey with, but also because it's a similar scenario to what The Boss and Snake had back in MGS3, only without the introspective look (well, it is there retroactively via MGS1, but not directly in MG2). You're unambiguously one of the good guys, you saved the day, you stopped a global threat, and you did exactly as you were told by your higher-ups, removing the only credible threat to the Patriots.
Damn it, I love this series.
Only thing off from the timeline... The Boss says the original members of the Wisemen's Committee died in the '30s, which is right before WWII. This means by the time of the war and 1964, the 'Founding' Philosophers were already ready replaced by the 'Corrupt' Philosophers. As we do not know how the new Philosophers were structured (number of Committee members, able to function without the Legacy or even whether the Legacy started by them or just the half that was recovered, the 'Corrupt' Philosophers possibly splitting into two, etc.), The Boss' 'endless battle' started from her father's death and sadly carried on to Big Boss when she died, making her give him 'her' mission to end the 'Corrupt' Philosophers.
I didnt understand some story parts of the game and after coming across your videos about mgs3 i watched all of them now I understand the story a little more thanks.
Welcome back, Boss.
Cant tell you how happy i was to see this in my box. Keep it up!
These videos are so much more interesting than actually playing the game.
This video just made a good day even better!!!
Very excited for Peace Walker, being the only game in the series I haven't played myself. I've been filling in a lot of the blanks with your other videos, but I'm keen to see it all laid out with your characteristic completeness. Good luck, Boss!
That bit around 57:00 really, *really* hurt. Snake wasn’t just used, he was used up to the *very* end.
"The second game chronologically: Peace Walker."
Me: Bruh. Portable Ops is the second and is canon.
Kojima may not have directed as he was busy with MGS4 but still contributed to it.
It's referenced at the beginning of Peace Walker by Kaz in the tutorial area of the first mission after the opening tutorial on the beach in the rain.
It is included in the PS3 Metal Gear Database, an official Wikipedia-style application to allow players to read up on the Metal Gear canon before MGS4's release.
Portable Ops include some inconsistencies such as Sokolov somehow surviving, however the Metal Gear series is no stranger to inconsistencies and ret-cons. Plus we never actually confirmed if Sokolov actually died. Volgin may have said he was dead to demoralise Snake by making think he'd failed one of his objectives but in reality Sokolov was barely still alive. His survival could be due to Ocelot who brought him along with Granin's metal gear plans to the west.
The game's story is also significant in Naked Snake's shift to becoming Big Boss as it is the turning point when Snake has to face up to becoming The Boss's successor and shifting from simply being a soldier to a commander. It also provides a neat look at Metal Gear development with the ICBM Metal Gear and shows some of Zero's earliest moves to form Cipher/the Patriots, wipe out the Philosophers and secure the entirety of the Legacy.
Oh and a young version of Roy Campbell's in it.
I like detailed videos such as this one.
I been hearing ur esays while studying thx
If I could play as "The Boss" , what a game that would be. Awesome as hell video!! This went so deep for me, I almost feel I'm not worthy to touch this game again.
Metal Gear Solid - A story about how Shalashaska manipulates and saves the world. Featuring side characters Snake, Snake, Snake, Snake, and Snake.
Yes. Sir you are an inspiration.
8/10 needs more Grandpa Johnny.
Incredible Work
Amazing Video
Great Long Videos to Listen to
Thank You
Man.. your probably one of the best analytical youtuber ever
56:08 I never could understand why Volgin couldn't see The Boss's motives. Couldn't he hear the theme song?
I feel so educated after watching these videos
Dang just as good as the others, with some of the rough edges smoothing out. Can't wait for the other game break downs. Keep up the good work!
I absolutely love these videos! My one complaint is I wish you would've talked about snake meeting the president and being named big boss, and how he passed by the cia director without shaking his hand as well as passing by zero. I think he did this because he didn't like what the cia did to the boss in making her a scapegoat and criminal to her country. Also with him passing by zero because he knew a lot about what the mission really was, and didn't let snake know. Because snake felt betrayed by his country for letting the boss die is what leads him down the path to become the 'villain' big boss.
All these years Ocelot was the main Character
Hey man, amazing video as always. You´re doing the Lord´s work with these essays. I just wanted to comment about two issues of the game and hear your thoughts about them.
The first one´s about your take on the Legacy microfilm. I f I understood you correctly, you said that the Boss handed two microfilms both to Snake and Eva, and that you don´t even think that the Boss told Eva that she had given Snake any microfilm at all. In that case, Eva would think that the Boss was actually on the Chinese side, and handed her over the real microfilm. I don´t think there´s any real evidence for Eva to think that the Boss had any allegiance to China, besides her having been an instructor in a charm school. Unlike Snake, who had been kept in the dark with regards to the Legacy mission to keep thinking the Boss was evil and not hesitate to defeat her, Eva knew all along her mission was to steal the Legacy. Therefore, she should had been previously briefed that the Boss was actually on China´s side, and that she would hand her over real microfilm. Because that didn´t happen , Eva shouldn´t have trusted for one second that the Boss was giving her anything but a fake. And I say that it didn´t happen because, even in the case that the Boss had pretended to the Chinese she was an asset to them, I think Eva would have told Snake in the final tape that the boss was a Chinese agent all along -at least that´s what she would think-. Instead, she breaks into tears saying how much of a patriot she was. Meaning American patriot. Maybe I´m missing something, but I just fail to see how things hold up in that scenario. Instead, if you don´t mind, I´d like to show you my take on what happened:
The Boss hands Snake over the real microfilm before her death. This event is being monitored from the distance by Eva and Ocelot -independently-. Eva is watching it to make sure Snake gets the microfilm. Ocelot is watching to see in what pocket Snake is putting it. After that he raids the WIG and gets into a fist fight with Snake. It´s during this fight that Ocelot will reach into Snake´s pocket and swap the microfilm with a fake of his own. Neither Eva nor Snake can see Ocelot doing it -Snake is too up close, not to mention he´s lost an eye, and Eva is too busy focusing on flying the plane-. It seems Ocelot knows in advance Snake has no formal training in piloting planes, so that it will have to be Snake himself the one to confront him physically while Eva will do the flying, thus allowing him to get very close to Snake. Once he has it, he goes away with the real microfilm, not jeopardizing it by letting it be too close to Eva for too long. In the cabin Eva has another fake microfilm she swaps for Snake´s believing he has the real one, but in fact both microfilms in the cabin are fake. In other words, there are three microfilms, one true, two fake. This explains why Ocelot would attempt to risk his own life in getting into the plane and battle with Snake, beyond mere flamboyance.
The other issue I have with the story is the character of Eva. Namely the fact that she should know she is being played by the Americans all along. First, she is impersonating a defector that the Americans should know everything about, face and all. I f I meet an agent while I´m impersonating being someone from their own country, I would expect that agent to find out I´m not that person right off the bat. let alone letting me join the mission without even knowing the spy password -a pretty standard procedure-. She even says in the final tape that both NSA defectors were men. How the hell is she so confident about playing her role as an impersonator if the fact that she is a woman is blowing her cover the whole time?
Now, a few nitpicky things about her:
She says in the tape that Adam didn´t show up in the abandoned building, saving her the trouble to eliminate him. In any case, she would have had to kill Adam, and also Eva, and then impersonate the latter.
What´s with the password scene? Zero wants Eva to join the mission because he knows that she´s from China, and thus he can keep that rival in check by monitoring her. However, for the meeting, he gives Snake the password but doesn´t move his threads to relay it to Eva. Instead, I´m assuming, he tells Ocelot to arrange for a group of soldiers to be there so that she can kill them in from of Snake so that he can trust her.
And one final thing. I think you covered this in the previous video but I didn´t quite get it. It is established that Sokolov and Eva are lovers, which you assumed is a sort of collusion to keep Sokolov in contact with the KGB. However, when Snake meets him in the lab, he says Tanya´s actually Volgin´s lover. Why does he change his cover story with Snake?
If you ´ve reached down here, congrats, and sorry! Keep up the good work!
Absolutely loved this. Currently playing through the MGS series, just finished three, almost done with Peace Walker as we speak. Very excited for the potential of a Peace Walker Version, keep it up!
Beautiful work. Keep em coming boss . .
Your pretty good
I was actually searching the part 2 and suddenly found the part 3 upoaded like... 5 minutes ago? lol
Quicker than RUclips recommendation.