Canon EOS R10 vs R7 vs RP: Which Camera SHOULD You Buy?
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Canon has spent the last four years focused on full-frame cameras, R3, R5, R6, RP, R. And now they turn their attention to cropped-sensor RF mount bodies. This video is to help you decide which NEW Canon EOS Mirrorless Camera might be the right one for you in 2022 2023. I've put the Canon R7, R10 and RP specs up against each other to help you decide. We chose the include the RP as it's priced really well for a full-frame body and might be a nice option for some.
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"Invest in glass" is the advice given by photographers with the best cameras money can buy.
Disagree. They say "invest in glass" because they are professionals and have used both high-end bodies AND lenses. And they truly feel if you are going to invest money into upgrading gear, it's more important to focus on good glass. You can have an R3 but if you are using a cheap lens, you will get crap pics. Plus good glass holds its value.
If you spend $5,000.00 today on a good pro lens, in eight years you will be able to sell it for $4,500.00. Maybe more than you paid for it if inflation has driven up the price of a new one.
If you spend $5,000.00 today on a pro camera, in eight years it will be obsolete and you will be lucky to get $1,500.00. And that's assuming normal times, not when they do something funky, like come out with mirrorless! Then your camera REALLY takes a hit! That's language anyone can understand. So, if you need both and have a limited budget, buy a used camera (you can get a heck of a deal on used DSLRS right now, because everyone is trading them in for mirrorless), and spend your real money on glass. Note: In this "unusual" time DSLR glass also took a hit, but not nearly like cameras. Glass is glass, for a long time. I can still use twenty year old DSLR glass on a modern mirrorless camera with an adapter. It's still great glass. But a twenty year old camera is worthless. No one wants a Canon 1d today!! But a first generation Canon 600 f4L?? Heavy beast, but still takes great shots and will work with your R3!
After 6 years doing photography starting with canon sl2 I must say glass matters not the body. Now using a7riii with GM lenses and I’ll say it again I wish I invested in good lenses.
I’m using the glass from my first slr rebel 35mm film camera. These R series are very compelling compared to my dslr, rebel t3i i’m looking at a 16-35mm lens or the 11-24mm of my current camera ,similar price. That is why i am watching these comparisons.
A decade and a half of shooting here "bodies come and go, glass is forever" is a motto of mine
I love my RP. Great little full frame camera which really encourages you to take photos. I’m not sure there is ever a ‘best’ choice, we all like different things. For me the RP is just a great camera which is under appreciated.
The RP is a brilliant little camera and far better than Jared realises. It has very accurate and competent autofocus, great low light performance and has more customisable buttons than the R6 (where the R6 has a rear dial, the RP has 4 customisable buttons which also act as a joypad).
@Paul Phillipson
Yes, RP is a very good camera in terms of image quality and usability but in my opinion it is a bit on the slower side. But that doesn't matter in lots of situations like landscape, portrait, macro, ... And it is light and compact (like maybe Canon AE-1 or similar cameras). If it had cropped 4k with DPAF maybe it has been enough for me but ...:
I need a 4k compatible camera to collect video samples (I am dreaming of a documetary movie!) so I stumbled over the R7 and I must say: A very capable package if you need speed, stability of freehand recordings, reliable movie AF + more reach with telephoto lenses.
Finally I like both cameras very much and are glad to have access to both tools!
@@energieinfo21 Sounds great and you've sorted out exactly what you need.
Canon RP is one of the best and i have to agree with you. Its under appreciated by a lot of photographers and even canon themselves
I think when you are testing high-end gear, to tend to be biased in terms of performance and quality. But when I show what I shot with my RP, my friends tend to be impressed because they almost see only smartphone photography nowadays.
It's like buying an expensive microphone. You think you can tell the difference because you paid 2000€, but your audience may not.
This was by far one of the best comparison I've seen between the 3 cameras. I was dead set on the RP and after watching this review the R7 is the route I'm taking. 👌
Definately the better pick.
I had and enjoyed the RP since release, but the R7 made me switch to APS-C back completely again, just a much better value as a hybrid camera.
The thing is..... if i would not mind the better AF features for animals and 4k or slowmo video, i would still prefer the RP (better photography camera for less money)
The R10 is 750$ with 100$ cashback in my region while the R7 is 1250$ and RP goes for 870$, R10 looking awesome rn
Well of course. The RP and R10 are budget cameras, they don;t even compare to the R7! The R7 is FAR superior and more expensive!
Note he linear pixel density of the R7,
You’ve helped me with my decision to stick with the RP despite the temptation to move to the R10. I photograph mostly stationary subjects; no need for faster FPS. The nice bokeh with the FF sensor is appreciated, too. Thanks for making your choice relevant to you and encouraging us to make our choices based on our needs and purposes. Mostly, though, thanks for promoting investing in good glass. I’ve added an EF 70-300 and an RF 50 with very satisfying results each.
How’s the EF 70-300 on the RP? I’m tempted to get one myself but haven’t heard too much about it on the RP.
It dwarfs the RP (and the Canon EF to RF adaptor adds to the length). Pleased with image quality so far.
I’ve been searching and watching and reading for videos that adequately describe cameras - best one by a long shot. Thank you so much for the review!
I have two R5s and just got the R7. I'm really having fun with the R7 and highly recommend it.
Can you tell me where you ordered/ got your R7? I’ve placed an order for one on Adorama, it’s on back order everywhere and I’m just curious how long it took you to get it.
Perfect video for me. When I started watching, I had three tabs open at B&H: R10, R7, and RP. They're all kinda sorta doable on my budget, but I wasn't sure which would be the best investment. This video nicely explains the differences, and it's helped me settle on the R7 as the current leader in my camera search.
Good job, Polin. Thanks!
Thank you, Jared! You are the best at explaining all the features and comparisons.
Jared, i LOVE your reviews! You explain all the important things so good. Thanks and greetings from Germany .
I’ve gotten the R7 a while back and I’ve loved it since then. Coming from a T7 it’s nothing but a complete upgrade packed with features like the higher 32mp count compared to the 24 (which is still capable imo) and 4K up to 60fps. Even the R10 would have been a great choice to step up to but I am very happy with my R7 and recommend it for those with the budget
Excellent comparison, I just sent the video to a few friends looking to buy a Canon. My favorite thing about R series is the adapter, I love my EF glass and won't part with them as I love my DSLR's and use them all the time especially my 5D4.
Great video! I have an R5 and 6dm2 with great EF an RF lenses, all of which I love. However, it all gets pretty heavy on long trips trudging through airports, bus terminals, etc. I bought an R10 just for travelling. It was on sale in December for under $800, and it works great with all my old EF-S lenses. It was just too good a deal to pass up. My load has been lightened significantly and I still hope to bring home some great shots.
It is a good comparison, but the camera itself serve its purpose to the user. RP is very good when taking portraits to be honest, but if you're taking sports or fast action photos, better to grab faster cameras. It really depends on the user. For me, I'm happy with my RP, if I need to upgrade, I'll jump to R3
I went with the RP. Full frame is so great.
I was looking at the RP since I still have a t1i. But Canon just releasing these 2 is very interesting since I wanted to upgrade. Love the 4k recording on the r7 and r10. Now time to save for one of those. Great video Jared
Great review, been trying to find a second camera as a back up that may get use once in a while. I was thinking of the R7 and thanks to your review i believed I have a winner. I am currently shooting with a Canon R5 as the main camera.
I don't think I have ever enjoyed a camera review this much It is by far the best review available Thank you so much
Coming from a very old 40D, the EOS RP was a huge step up for me. Finally, I could fulfill my dream of stepping up to a fullframe sensor. I really love that image quality, especially for stills or landscapes and low light conditions. I also started taking pictures of some birds in a nearby park - works just fine. But remember, I stepped up from a 14 years old camera :D
Why did I upgrade: The autofocus system of my 40D was a little bit "special", it didn't hit that well. Now with those in-sensor dual pixels, the very most shots are now perfectly sharp, even with older lenses!
And I got that RP body for less than 800€/US$, which was a awesome deal! But I understand, that if you want to shoot fast moving objects, you may consider buying another camera.
Maybe there will be something like an EOS RP II - but that will probably be not be that cheaply available.
I would be very happy if the animal eye tracking was being added to the RP - but I think this won't happen.
Overall price/perfomance I give that RP a very good 4,5/5*. Just a notch to slow, but the other characteristics are amazing fot its price.
ive used a 20d with the 500f4, and a M6mkii with the same lens the M is far better, but the R7 blows it out the water, I only bought it for street stuff but was amazed by the results, I have the R3, R5 R6, the only lens upgrade ive made is the 35mm , I prefer the Petzval for portrait and I don't do that very often
Love the Ref to the podcast chat about the view finder. Love the podcast and the vids. I bought an R6 b/c of this channel (Canon Money truck better deliver for you) and love all the tips and tricks!
I have an RP and have been buying decent RF glass. I'm looking at moving up to the R6 and keeping the RP as a backup or hopefully having he wife become more interested and using it as a full frame introduction. The RP still takes good photos for what I have used it for and to be fair it will still hold its own against the R10 and R7 in many instances. In my opinion, a natural jump from the RP would be an R6, or even an R5 or R3, if you have the bucks. Great review. Keep them coming.
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Was just comparing this on my own yesterday! Perfect timing great video!
Thank you for the video. I was looking exactly for this. I got confused between RP and R7 and now this video helped me take my decision.
As a R7 user and long time RP user all i can say is:
RP for photography only (but its PERFECT!)
R7 for wildlife/sports/video, and its in overall a much more capable and feature filled camera
The R10 is pretty garbage, too much dents from the canon cripple hammer.
Thank you. You help clear up a lot of information overload.
I’m a noob and just purchased the RP with a 35mm f1.8 macro. You almost have me convinced on swapping out for an R10 but if/when I upgrade to an R5 or alike I don’t want to invest in all new full frame glass. I love the RP and feel it’s a good starting point for me
It’s great starting point! Experiment with lenses, find focal lengths you love and then invest in good glass. Learn editing and basic composition ”rules”… get comfortable with using camera and enjoy your photography 👍 There will always be some better camera to upgrade, don’t bother yourself with that until you find that your camera is limiting you in some way…
For all the benefits of the newer tech in the R7/R10, the fact remains that the RP is a full frame camera. The better dynamic range and Image Quality is definitely better in the long run. Besides if you intend to upgrade to the R6 in the future, the RP is the better choice as they can share the lenses.
I'd prefer the R10 because one thing to take into account is the high megapixel of the R7 means you need high resolving lenses. Not all EF lenses work well with it. The R10 doesnt have this issue and you dont have to worry about the lens "focus hunting" or getting shots that are not that sharp.
The only thing I wish it had was weather sealing.
I currently use and love an M50 I and II and have all the EF-M lenses and a bunch of EF lenses so no need to "upgrade" yet but id wait out for Canon to release an R10 with weather sealing. If not the R10 will eventually be my next step especially as a sports photographer
Hi Jared, I really enjoyed your explanation on the three cameras. I’m looking at the updating R10 from Canon 80D. I have two Sigma lens 50mm 1.4 and 17-55 2.8 and Canon 40mm 2.8.
I’m still very new to photography, I’ve had my canon 2000D almost 2 years now and I love it! I have been contemplating a canon eos R for some time now but I think I can jump to the r7 when the time comes. Thank you for your advice.
As usual, the best of the best, with honors, sir. Thank you for making these videos.
Thank you. This video was great and helped me understand the differences and similarities.
Went with the RP for the full frame. Don’t really need to shoot fast. So it works great for me.
Oh, the video I've been waiting for, thank you so much.
I just did our Company employee pictures with the R10 and a Sigma Art 50mm lens and was super surprised at the quality of the photos. The R10 is a wonder at the price.
Ordered an R7 a few days ago, it’s on back order so it might be a month or 2 before I have it, but I’m very excited for it and I’m confident I’ll be happy with my purchase.
Best video I've watched from your channel, great overview.
I have the RP, and I don’t shoot fast moving subjects. Mainly landscape, architecture, street, nature. And even 3 years later, it’s great, especially when paired with good glass (so glad I got the RF 24-105 f/4L, plus I have the EF to RF adapter to adapt all that great EF glass that’s out there). It’s a pretty solid option for those who want full frame but can’t/don’t want to spend $$$$ for it.
Jeremy Parr Hi Jared I am saving up for the new R 7 as I have the old canon 7D and like to go further with my photography. this video has help me the decide with to go for thank so much for shearing this video yours truly Jeremy😁
Hello Jared, a great video as always 😉 in your opinion how do these both cameras compare to the R ?
TY for another informative video. I use the R5 for Bird Photography. Was thinking about the reach of crop and loved my Canon 7D II. I have 400, 600, and 800 and for some locations the crop might be fantastic.
Just ordered the R7 for wildlife to go with me old EF500f4L IS and keep the r6 for landscapes portraits and astrophotography
Can’t agree more about the INVEST IN GLASS as finally upgraded all my glass to L apart from the 50 mm which I’ve gone sigma art 1.4 love that 👍👍👍 great videos by the way appreciate all the work you all put into each video 👍👍👍
Love the vid but just curious if ya'll changed the colors in your studio recording? I just watched the older video on R5 vs A1 and it looked a lot more pleasing. Thank you for all the knowledge!!!!
When you put the RF-S on an RF Full-frame camera, it should automatically switch to 1.6x crop mode (the same effect is obtained with an adapter for EF-S lenses to RF), this can also be done manually, if you turn off the 1,6x crop mode there will be a vignette.
True, but on RP there is no option to turn off the crop mode. In others there should be.
But that comes with a loss of sensor area, doesn’t it?
To me the comparison runs a bit further to include the Canon R (used: $1500) and the Nikon Z5 ($1300). And the Fuji S-X10 ($1000) now that I think about it. Of those I think the Z5 has the best image quality esp. in low light, the Fuji has the best lenses available, and the R7 has the best autofocus. So it's a pretty tough call.
fuji has more lenses for sure. Im a huge fuji fanboy but honestly Nikons few lenses are just better. The 50mm 1.8 S is zeiss quality for 1/3 the cost.
+1 on Z5. RP is probably bottom of all the cameras.
SX10 with IBIS
Canon RF LENSES are THE BEST!!!
I had been looking at moving from my M50 to a 90D but recently started looking at the R7 and I am really leaning toward getting this camera instead. This video did help me in deciding that the R7 is a better camera for me instead of the R10.
R10 tem melhor imagem que a R7 que sofre de difração acima de F5 !
If you are planning to upgrade M50 go for full frame sensor camera.
@@nithinvarghese I've actually been looking at a used Sony Alpha A7R III.
Unless you need speed or unless video is your main focus, the rp is an amazing camera. And at $900 for the body (what I spent), no camera in that price bracket can come close. the images are gorgeous and you can definitely use it in a studio environment. Add some lights and some quality lenses and you can produce professional results. It's not my primary camera (the r5 does that for me) but I enjoy using it more than my Sony a7r3. The a7r3 is better but in a studio environment I don't need high framrerate and I have lights so I don't need low light performance.
Having an EOS 7D II and being at Burundi, I have definately made my decision. This video has shown me that my next step is acquiring an EOS R7 and continue shooting APS-C images all along. Many thanks Jared. Keep doing this for us.
Thank you Jared
Tomorrow I am going buy R10 and going use with my Sigma E 17-70 f/2.8-4 even though I paid advance still I was not fully convinced because I am a Nikon shooter after seeing this video
I feel what I am doing is good
Thanks for making and sharing your video!!
Great video Jared,👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
We've all seen videos about how great the R7 is shooting wildlife and sports, but what about street photography and architecture etc?
I’m in the market to upgrade my 70D and was thinking about getting a used Canon R but now thinking maybe the new R7 may be a better option.
What do you think?
I've been very happy with my RP for a few years. I wish the low-light performance was better but it's useable. It was my path from the 70D crop-sensor to full frame, the R did not appeal to me. I may upgrade to the R5 when the price comes down. I love the RF-L glass!
I have the r6 and I absolutely love it. Crushes in lowlight
You mustn't know how to get the most out of it, the RP is fantastic in low light. You have to overexpose (keeping an eye on the histogram to not blow out highlights). In fact you should always be doing this with the RP, even in daylight, to get the cleanest possible shadows and reducing the need to recover shadows. With Highlight Tone Priority turned on, the highlight recovery is very good.
@@BrettCulverVlogs I hear this claim from R6 users all the time. There's very little difference in ISO noise between all of the R series cameras if you shrink the images down to the 20MP of the R6. The biggest difference between the R6 and say R/RP images shrunk to 20MP is the sharpness of the image. There's relatively little difference in terms of ISO noise, but there's a lot more fine detail in the R6 images which have been softened in the other 2 cameras.
@@cooloox ETTR of course, but there is a lot of noise. Topaz does a pretty good job with it.
@@rlfisher My RP doesn't have a lot of noise. It's not that different to the other R series cameras. The R6 is not that far ahead in terms of actual noise, if you shrink the RP image to 20MP. The R6 does retain noticeably more fine detail and is sharper though. My RP marginally beats my friend's R, but it is meant to according to the DXOMark scores.
I still film all the videos for my channels with the EOS R and I LOVE the colors and quality STILL!!
Looking to pickup a B cam now for our travel and vlogging footage, not sure which is best for our use though….
Maybe the R10 with a speed booster??
Yup, R10 it is!! Thanks Fro’
They don’t mke a speed booster for no R10 🤦🏽♂️
@@ksummz are you joking….?? Look it up, use an EF to RF glass Adapter with booster
@@healing2gether I looked only one I seen was $500 and for a full frame at that there was one that is discontinued now tho. Leave a link if u don’t mind if u can find one maybe I’m looking for the wrong item or something
@@ksummz watch my man Fulaan…he has links in his description
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@@healing2gether man bro can find one no Whre well I did but it’s like the $500 ones
Oh and one more comment.i actually own the 6d2 so it's very easy to compare to the rp.i thought the rp would just be the 6d2 in a smaller body with similar performance. But i was shocked when I found the rp beats it.most notably in sharpness. I used the exact same ef lenses on both and even if all in body sharpness is turned off, the rp was sharper than my 6d2. That blew my mind.
I think I’m going with the r10 soon! I do a lot of action photography and that includes shooting vehicles. Thanks for the vid!
O que achou da R10?
Great comparison thanks! I just have different opinion with the evf or using your screen. At the beginning I thought exactly like you same exact thought's... Then I was wondering why many people like your friend Manny Ortiz was using the screen more and more. I got then a canon R and started using the screen in weird situations that before I required a ladder or going really down. And all the sudden after few months... I realize I was not using the EVF anymore or almost never .... Why? I got lot more sense of the scene around me I can direct the model I get better composition I work much faster ... I use EVF only on direct sun situations. I do professional portraits since 7 years ago. Thanks for your feedback as always.♥️
Love this comparison, getting ready to upgrade from my 90D and I think this sealed my decision for the R7. Thanks.
I upgraded to the R7 from my 90D
No regrets.. love the r7
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Really interesting comparison. I purchased R10 it suits me as I mainly take photos when out on country rambles and at 72 I don’t want to lug heavy weights around on top of carrying a rucksack full of essentials. I also bought the 100-400 RF zoom to go with it which is my main lens. The kit lens originally was the shorter zoom but I have changed it to the 18-150. I have not used this much however it is noticeable with poorer light the quality or ability to take photos with both lens is lessened compared to previous camera lens’.
Just got into digital, blew the wad on Lenses, so the RP was a great buy. I'm an old news guy (way back in film days) and so far I'm, loving it. I will eventually get an r5 equivalent, I like the one with the separate video bios.
I've had the RP for a couple years now as my primary shooter. I use it for landscapes, portraits, nature and auto photography as well has images for my social media and video of RUclips as well as some paid work for clients. Being that it was so affordable when I bought it (the only full frame under $1k) I feel like it couldn't be beat for my use. and I feel it still holds up extremely well with then right glass.
i completely agree...
Tried it with older cheaper EF glasses and i was not really impressed, but even a "cheap" RF 50mm 1.8 is just MUCH MUCH BETTER than my EF 50mm 1.4 ever was for example.
Since a while i got a RF 800 F11 and its just awesome, even 4-5 fps are just not that awesome for wildlife, but it works and i can work around this limit with 1080p 60 fps video or even 4k video in manual focus and heavy crop to effective 1800mm (basically just enough vertical space for a 100% frame filling full moon)
@@harrison00xXx that’s awesome, I’ve been debating switching out my EF50mm 1.4 for the RF50 1.8 but haven’t decided. Good to hear that comparison. I currently adapt old EF 50mm 1.4 24mm 2.8 and 85mm 1.8 and have been back and forth about whether or not I should spend the money.
I did rent the RF 24-70 and RF 70-200 for a shoot in Maui and was blown away. It’s just so expensive for a small time / part time guy like me lol.
@@BlackFlagAdventure Just get rid of the 1.4 as long its working and get for a little payment a new RF 50mm 1.8 STM
Its especially on the RP super lightweight, it will feel like a "snapshot camera" way less than 1kg, more like 500g about.
The RF 50mm is the lens i love the most on the RP as always on, beside the RF 800 F11 for wildlife. a super compact and lightweight combo for hiking and travelling with less than 2kg!
It just happens that i have some macro, zoom and other special lenses for astrophotography as well as 2 telescopes with EF mounted so i have my "creative" lens set with Meike EF RF Filter adapter and additional to Meikes polarizer and ND filter one from breakthrough, the light pollution filter for astrophotography. In EF i can switch lenses whenever, how and how often i want since the filters protect the sensor from dust alltime, with RF lens switching im still careful.
@@BlackFlagAdventure I really loved the 1.4, especially for videos of my reptiles in nearly complete darkness while hunting or for concerts and festivals etc.
I got the RF 50mm as the EF 1.4 made AF problems in cold conditions and so i had both to compare directly.
The difference is like day and night, the EF 1.4 has just one single positive: a better bokeh and also at smaller apertures it "looks" better since it got more aperture blades.
In anything else the RF 1.8 (as well as the EF 1.8 STMs!) is SUPERIOR.... MUCH sharper, barely CA, supports smooth aperture changes for video use....
And especially the RF version feels higher quality than any of canons autofocus 50mm 1.4/1.8 lenses on EF mount before.
I would even suggest the thing you HAVE TO BUY with a smaller EOS R camera is a RF 50mm 1.8 (or a 35mm with stabilizer if you can afford)
@@harrison00xXx much appreciated I thinking I’m gonna go for it, at least with the 50mm still need to expand my glass collection tho lol, never ending gas lol
Thanks for the video, Jared. I want to buy the EOS R. Do you have a comparison video for the R and whatever the other options would be?
Great video as always, Jared. I've been following your channel since your "how to capture motion in low light" video came out and It's amazing to see you still have so much fun reviewing gear.
I'm considering upgrading from my old EOS 700D and am confused between the R7 & the R8. I want to upgrade to full-frame to capitalize on the great EF lenses out there but the R7 has some nifty additional features too.
Are you going to do an R7 vs R8 comparison, possibly with sample images?
I love your videos. I recently bought a canon R10 can you please add the link where I can buy a really good lens for it 🙏🏽thank you
I have a sigma 35mm 1.4 that I love. It’s perfect for what I do, portrait photography (families, maternity, newborn etc) I also always keep my canon 50mm 1.4 on me. Which one of these cameras on the table do you recommend for me to upgrade to? I want to move to mirrorless but I want to make sure I can still use my sigma. Does the adapter you were talking about work with this? Should I pick full frame?
Thank you for this video, was in the market for a new camera but wanted to get into a higher tier then current camera. About to buy one of these three cameras today, rn the eos r10 is the choice. lmk if this is not the right canon for me; wanted a full frame, but the faster shutter and modern processor is worth it even with the cropped sensor. Just a beginner photographer upgrading from a t3i canon, that wanted photo and video that wanted to try a mirrorless camera. The info in this video really helped me with eos r10 choice but maybe there is something I am missing.
Nice review Jared. What would be the better camera for moon landscapes stills when using my ef 800mm, as I am looking to crop the original frames, generally I am set at 3200iso 1/50th sec at 5.6 as the moon rises up over the horizon. I currently use a 5D mkIV and wondered if the noise would be any less using the newer r7 as less of a crop would be possible when using this compared to the 5D. Decent files sizes are preferred so I can still produce A1 or A0 prints.
Thanks for this review Jared, I think the R7 will be the move for me. I am upgrading from a 7d mark ii.
What a great video my dude. Thank you!
Just as a side note if buying the R7. If you are going to adapt ef lens just be carful that the lens has enough reslove, as i run into this problem when i got my 90d which also has a high megapixel sensor.
The 3 way toggle from Off to On to Video is on the Canon 77D and the 80D that I have. So, not a new feature on a DSLR, maybe it is a new one on a mirrorless from Canon.
After watching several reviews, I am very impressed with R7 as I was considering the original Canon R (priced similar to R7). However, video in 4K is highly cropped on R to 1.8 crop, and no IBIS, so on video solely, most people are much better off with an R7 with its many features than doing video on R or RP. (The FF R6 and R5 may do video better but those bodies are expensive).
I think Jared, as a sports photographer, puts way more emphasis on shutter speed and how many frames a camera can shoot per second. If you are shooting things like portraits, landscapes, products and still photography, this really is a non issue, yet he almost belabors the fact that the RP doesn't do that well. Also, you have to take into account all of the drawbacks that come with a crop sensor that you don't have to deal with with a full frame lke crop factor. There's no free lunch.
All of the drawbacks including the *one* thing? Most of the historic drawbacks eg. low light and dynamic range don't apply to this conversation as the APS-C sensors are a generation newer.
As for shutter speed - most of my photos are taken at 5-6 fps. My M6II can do 14 but only if I have a hummingbird outside my window do I kick it up into a faster mode. The RP however, can't even get out of it's own way. My old M6 Mk I could do 9 fps. Hell, my old M10 with contrast detect AF could do 4.6 fps. The RP is mostly unusable unless the subject isn't moving at all. With tracking AF it's FPS is from the early 2000's. I don't know the technical reason why it's so incredibly slow but I hope it wasn't intentional, it really crippled the camera.
@@GrantMcWilliams Canon's famous cripple hammer. Great camera crippled by the manufacturer
@@doghouseriley4732 ?
@@doghouseriley4732 how else will you sell the next generation?
These “drawbacks” as you call them are the same ones espoused but medium format photographers when 35mm was introduced. You’re talking out of your overly large posterior.
I love(d) the RP for it's size. Great for travel and landscapes.Battery life was not as bad as it is presented by numbers or ceba ratings.
Totally agree except for the batteries… it drains so fast !
Just came back from Denmark, shot 800 pictures in 6 days, i used 2,5 batteries !
@@julienb9961 uh, that is not so good. I would have loved an RP with the lP-E6NH battery
I had a Nikon N65 SLR years ago and sold it because I wanted to move to all digital, but I never got around to getting a DSLR. Now I just have a Canon G15 with a tiny 1"/1.7" sensor and it's time to get a bigger camera. I was planning on getting an RP, but this video has me reconsidering now. I would prefer full frame but the next step up from the RP that's still full frame is out of my price range. I don't do fast action photography, so I still think the RP will be good enough for me.
Thanx for the video. I'm on Canon 700D and I shoot 99% product photography in studio enviroment. I'm looking to upgrade my gear, and I was thinking to go with the RP and EF 100mm macro lens for product photography. Do you thing that is a good combo for my use? So no landscape, no sports, maybe here and there some portraits. Thank you!
Great video, but a bit late for me. I had to figure it out by myself :) Anyways, for me, I was set to buy the RP because I don't shoot a lot of sports (occasional MTB races, but they are quite predictable, I could do those with my 5Dc) and I like FF. But then the R7 was announced and I had troubles finding an RP for sale for quite a while. But I want to re-use my EF glass, so then I though about the R7 with Viltrox EF-R mount speed booster adapter. You gain 1 stop light and the crop goes from 1.6 to 1.15. But that adds 250 euro to the price of the R7. So now you get into the R6 territory. So when I saw an R6 in an outlet store for 2200 euro, I got that. 20Mpix is more than enough for me, I was used to 12 from the 5Dc or 18 from the EOS-M (yes, I've got old gear). Very happy with my decision, the extra money I spent is already forgotten.
Great review thank you
Thanks Jared very helpful video
Hey Jared, I've got the eos R I mainly shoot automotive photography and a bit of wedding photography, do you think I should upgrade to the R7?
Hey, i have a question regarding camera choice and i cant really solve it myself and hoped you may be able to help me with all the experience you have. Im kinda stuck in my decision between the R5, R3, Z9 and A1. I havent invested im any ecosystem yet and price isnt a deciding point here. I think i mainly want to take wildlife pictures, but may want to dip into sports in the future. Additionally all things family picture related. Are 24MP of the R3 enough to print big family pictures? Is the better ISO of the R3 relevant? All these question made it impossible for me to get to a well thought through conclusion. But maybe you can help me with that. Thank you and great content as always!
So far i havent been dissapointed when using the R10, i use as a backup when on the move, as replacement for my 6D MKII
Finally 🙏🏻 the video I’ve been looking for
Nice video for people looking for those cameras.
But i want to add that there are battery grips available for the RP
Cheers!
Question about IBIS. Does it work for video only or in photo mode as well? I shoot photo mostly and struggle with camera shake. I don’t always have a tripod so IBIS would be great!
I had the Tamron SP 15-30mm F/2.8 Di VC USD paired with the Canon EOS RP - and let me tell you... it was a force to be reckoned with!
I'm planning to get this setup. With an RP and Tamron 15-30 G2
Would you recommend R7 + EF to RF adapters + 400mm f/5.6 non IS prime?
I’m not flush with money, and have to make a lot of decisions based on that. So I’ve spent a long time making do with less. But I have been doing this as a profession and as a hobby for closing in on four decades. I shoot mostly in full manual, and always in raw. So at the very least I have to take umbrage with your assertion that the R10 doesn’t leave any room to move upwards, or is only for someone who isn’t looking to improve their photography as a whole. One of the things that is most attractive about it is the level of customization that you can add to it, and the amount of control you can exert over it. The RP has been a great camera for me, with the ability to be very thoughtful in the way that I approach photos and the way that the camera handles. I plan to add an R10 soon, mainly because I like the difference in features for different uses, and I appreciate the similarities between the two cameras in terms of placement of controls and levels of customizability. I’d love an R5 and R7 as my one-two punch. But the RP and R10 will undoubtedly generate very good results for me. As both are marketed as entry level cameras, I feel safe saying that they both leave a lot of room for upward movement, experimentation, and opportunity to gain experience and skill.
Dont plan to buy any of these cameras,BUT its nice to see what the entry cameras offers.Thx , nice job!
Very Helpfull video. Thanks a lot.
Full transparency, I have not read all the comments so I don’t know if this has been said. I mounted the original kit lens that came with my 80D, the EF-S 18-135, to my R5 to see what would happen. As soon as I connected it, the camera automatically changed the sensor to the 1.6 crop mode. When I removed it and put an EF lens on, it automatically changed back to full frame mode.
thank you. What do you think about R7 and Rf 100mm macro lens??
Excellent video. Thank you!
Hello Jared new to your chsnnel. I’m going with the R10 as a beginner with some photography experience. Nice work on these videos.
In terms of stabilization the R7 seems like a really good option. I'm considering to save a bit more for an R7. Will EF lenses give me any disadvantages if I adapt?
I love my EOS RP. But I can wait to get my hands on a R3 and use RP as a backup.
Same thoughts
I went from a R10 to a R7 to a R6 and decided to go back to the R7 🎉 I love how versatile it is 👌 better reach than the R6, better battery life, better at macro photography(you get closer), in-body bracketing, higher megapixel for cropping.
I have a old sistem , a 550d...
Still don´t know what to buy today...
I mainly shoot landscape and portriats , what are good budget options ?
I also go for prime lens dont used tele or zoom at all.
I'm going with the R10 I have a T5i and will be nice to do bird photography and moving objects for the money used
I don't think they want to, but new versions of the R & RP would be a good look in my eyes honestly. Especially with regards to the processor and the tough bar on the R.
I do mainly travel photo's and very little Video. I have the M50 II for Video's, so now I want to move up from my 80D to the RP or the R7 just not sure what to do. I may rent each one and see what makes more sense for me'
The viewfinder magnification is measured with a 50 mm lens regardless of the sensor size so the APS-C sensor cameras have naturally larger magnification. 1.15x is same as 0.72x on full frame.
That might be true for dslr as they have a prism, but is it true for mirrorless?
I had last decided that between the RP, R6 and R7, I wanted to get 2 of them. Actually I wanted to get the R7 and either the RP or R6. I was lending toward the RP but this review is really making me think of the R6 instead. As a full frame I thought the RP would have some advantages over the R7, like low light. But if that is not the case, I have very little reason for the RP and can wait until I can afford the R6.
I'm sensitive to the electronic viewfinder and the R6 is better hands down. It's also a way larger camera though. But I love it. I came from a 6D ii, 7d ii, and R. The R6 is amazing, dynamic range is great. The RP seemed so slow compared to all of them and the evf would hurt my eyes focusing after a while.
I enjoyed Your videos, I’m in the process of purchasing a camera for astrophotography. I’m interested in the Full Frame “RP”. But after your video would it be worth my while to purchase the R7. I will also be using it for wildlife photography. What’s your suggestion. Or are there any other cameras you would suggest under $2000.
FYI, if you use an EF-S lens (on the adapter) with an "R" body the camera will recognize it and automatically adjust so it is in "crop mode" and there is no vignetting due to that. I presume that the same is true if you use an RF-S lens on a full frame "R" body. Of course, if the lens itself is known for vignette (especially zoom lenses at the widest focal length) that will still happen.
Crop mode on the R6 is a measly 7MPix, so be aware. People are already complaining that 20 MPix is not enough :)