Boom, and they're gone already... The first batch is sold out even though the pedal just got released. In case you wanna grab one I suggest being fast. Those few pieces worldwide (afaik 1000) are gonna be sold really fast apparently. Cheers and enjoy the video! EDIT: that’s it, the pedal is completely sold out. All that they can build are gone in 2 days. Jeez.
What Is knowledge Kris, ”preordered” just when the batch was gone. Toi wrote first batch..that’s telling there will be another right? If there’s first? And I’m in queue if I made order from Thomann even the first 50 were sold out?
@@tomhagelberg6651 As long as they can guarantee that you’ll get one (which will take a few days or weeks, depending on how fast Wampler can ship them) they let you order. As soon as they see that too many orders came in, which they can’t fulfill anymore, they take the product down from the webshop. 👍
@@tomhagelberg6651 yes, because they will get more pedals. 👍 As told, as long as you can order, you’ll get one a soon as they arrive from Wampler. Cheers
Just played my friends one he got before xmas. You definitely can hear the difference in person when pushed through a good amp. I kinda wish I had got one when I had the chance now, but my regular Tumnus is close enough anyway.
Great review! It's always hard hearing the difference when watching RUclips with the audio compression. I loved the comment that it's for the people who can appreciate the last few percent.
Oh man, it’s such a good amp. Fantastic blackface style cleans but it’s tweaked and modded so it loves all drive and fuzz pedals. It’s literally my perfect modded Deluxe Reverb. And then there’s also that awesome drive channel… 💛
Awesome pedal. It really is the best one, sounds identical to the OG Klons and you definitely can hear the subtle differences in the mids in person. Sucks that they can't keep making them tho :(
I tend to like germanium-based pedals. I don’t know the tech, but I think I hear the difference on the top end-just a little more ‘presence?’ Something like the sweet, delicate treble on a germanium fuzz vs silicon when the guitar volume is rolled down a little? I bought the Tumnus Deluxe semi-recently, and only more recently discovered how much I like it. This, after not getting much use out of a Decibelics and a Zeus. Brian Wampler’s pedals sound amazing into Fender amps.
There is definitely a difference. It's subtle and only really makes itself truly noticeable when you push the pedal through a good, transparent tube amp at volume and move some air. These vintage germanium diodes give slightly thicker, richer dynamics to the subtlety of the distortion. Kids watching others play them in their bedroom through a laptop, processed via youtube will not hear much difference and do not understand proper audio quality anyway.
@@DM-kv9kj Well, you got *part* of that right. I'll try to ignore the dismissive/insulting/reductive/pontificating BS.... You don't need a tube amp. Differences are perfectly represented through modeling/profiling, and you don't need to have it at stage volume, either. Whether i ran them through a '68 Fender Deluxe Reverb or a Kemper Stage, or Tonocracy, or ToneX-all at "bedroom" volume, differences in germanium vs other circuits are apparent. I'm a 56-year old "kid," i guess, and a MacBook Air with ToneX doesn't mean i don't understand/can't hear "proper audio quality." I actually get the sense that something like my iPad accentuates certain nuances, and i have surprising 'luck' identifying variables with that, often versus studio monitors. Go figure. [If youtube compression is such a bear, why are you even here? And opining so vigorously?]
@@ABCDEF-ks5op Pretty much yeah, but you really can hear the difference in person when pushing the pedal through a good tube amp. I just have the old regular Tumnus which is fine for my needs, but compared them with my mate who has the germanium. Subtle differences in dynamics and how they interact with a given amp and speakers are never going to be heard through a youtube video. The germanium diodes give a slightly thicker clarity to the mid range, and when you're actually driving it through a responsive amp and moving air, you can hear and feel the difference unless you're half deaf.
Hi Kris, as a lot of these "Germanium Diode Special Editions" were coming out recently, I would bei interested in your opinion, where the Kasleder Pelion fits in the picture? Do you prefer it to the Tumnus or the Centavo? What would be the Klon pedal of your choice, if you could only have one?
Hi Kris, Today is a sad day 😢. I have received an email from Thomann telling me that unfortunately they will have to cancel my order as it turned out they oversold the Wampler Germanium tumnus. This happened after they took the payment and confirmed yesterday that the pedal will arrive eventually but they are not sure when and if I don’t mind waiting (which I don’t) I will get it.
Ohh nooo. So sorry to hear that man! Yeah people went mental on this pedal, even more than I expected. It took hours to oversell them world wide. Hey, you get your money back and don’t worry, it’s not the only amazing sounding klone. 👍 It‘s killer but so is the Kasleder Pelion, the Warm Audio Centavo and then some more. I compared them and they sound virtually the same great. Those are not sold out and I highly recommend checking them out. Cheers!
The Germanium Tumnus sounds substantially better than the JRocket Archer. The test Anderton’s did showed how much better this version is than the old one. In ordered one.
Sounds great but they're all sold now. I'd recommend the Hudson Sidecar for those who can't get the Tumnus. A germanium style tubescreamer that sounds and feels so much better than the original ts9....just my opinion.
Kris, you - and Thomann - should have a workaround offering addional files for comparison reasons since youtube's compression on audio files make it all nonsense. When you play the pedals, amps, guitars at home and rehearsals they sound totally different. Also, it's all hyped ;-) and Ge-diodes aren't expensive and that rare.
The problem is, that the whole industry was focused on making them in the 60s... and they require precision, and don't lend themselves to automation... so likely the new ones would suck. Lol. The good news is that they are all over the place in broken audio stuff from the era. .
Not to be a jerk the Archer has been made with different diodes there are some with germanium and some with silicone. I have an archer with Russian germanium diodes
Hi Kris! Thanks for sharing this review! Another gear question regarding bolt on necks and their truss rods. Do you notice any differences in sound or feel between traditional heel adjust truss rods, and neck adjust truss rods?
Hey man, I really don’t think there is any difference in tone. I prefer a headstock side adjustment on everything except for Vintage style fenders (only for visual reasons at the heel on those). But honestly, the best is an adjustment wheel on the heel side. Music Man style. 💪
Huge difference on the cleaner tones; it adds a weight that is also clear and 3 dimensional. The nuanced playing - huge difference. Crisp with nuanced popping out of the speakers. Sounds excellent.
people are going crazy , this pedal already sold out ? , the new epi greedy lp already sold out ? , what do people think ? , probably they think these new toy's will make them a better guitarist ? yeah , sure mate ! , start practising a bit more , that will do more good then keep on buying new toy's . rant over and out , see you in the live : )
Buying a pedal never stopped anyone from practicing. “New toys?” Do you not use pedals? At some point, everything you own was a “new toy.” People are “going crazy” because it’s a new pedal release; it’s the first klone to use the original diodes that were supposedly unavailable-the most discussed pedal/type over the past couple of decades; and because it’s a limited release. Are you new to the internet? Kinda wondering why you’re here, on a gear platform, taking time to post an illogical “rant,” when you should be practicing more. Or, perhaps you’re already as good as you wanna be? 😊 Rant over.
@@CentaurusRelax314 yes , i am as good at guitarplaying as i will ever become and i achieved my goal by practising a lot and playing in a band for over 40 years , not by buying the latest toy . but if you believe this latest toy will make you a better guitarplayer , then go ahead .
@@antoonhermans8953 As moronic of a reply as your original post. And you’re too wrapped up in your own narcissism to even recognize the point…. Carry on, Captain Awesome.
Boom, and they're gone already... The first batch is sold out even though the pedal just got released. In case you wanna grab one I suggest being fast. Those few pieces worldwide (afaik 1000) are gonna be sold really fast apparently.
Cheers and enjoy the video!
EDIT: that’s it, the pedal is completely sold out. All that they can build are gone in 2 days. Jeez.
What Is knowledge Kris, ”preordered” just when the batch was gone. Toi wrote first batch..that’s telling there will be another right? If there’s first? And I’m in queue if I made order from
Thomann even the first 50 were sold out?
@@tomhagelberg6651 As long as they can guarantee that you’ll get one (which will take a few days or weeks, depending on how fast Wampler can ship them) they let you order. As soon as they see that too many orders came in, which they can’t fulfill anymore, they take the product down from the webshop. 👍
@@KrisBarocsibut they let me order already I mean. No product available - but the shop let me order and pay…
@@tomhagelberg6651 yes, because they will get more pedals. 👍 As told, as long as you can order, you’ll get one a soon as they arrive from Wampler. Cheers
@@KrisBarocsi thank you Sir 🤌
Just played my friends one he got before xmas. You definitely can hear the difference in person when pushed through a good amp. I kinda wish I had got one when I had the chance now, but my regular Tumnus is close enough anyway.
Great review! It's always hard hearing the difference when watching RUclips with the audio compression. I loved the comment that it's for the people who can appreciate the last few percent.
Love your videos, you are honest and can tell minute differences not just in sound but feel
I have the Tumnus deluxe and I'm happy with that and also the Unobtanium pedal, so I'm good!
Great opening track! 😎 Thanks for taking a refreshing approach in discussing Klon clones. 👍
July 24-25, 2024 Who got the Wampler Germanium Tumnus Deluxe? Sold out in a handful of hours.
In the UK….got lucky and got the golden ticket. Fedex says mine is somewhere over the pacific on its way to Blighty.
Got one 😝😎
That tone king sounded fantastic on its own. Never really paid too much attention to them but that clean tone was tasty.
Indeed, sometimes i preferred the clean tone... But hey i have an Imperial myself....
Oh man, it’s such a good amp. Fantastic blackface style cleans but it’s tweaked and modded so it loves all drive and fuzz pedals. It’s literally my perfect modded Deluxe Reverb. And then there’s also that awesome drive channel… 💛
@@KrisBarocsi and a perfectly usable attenuator!
@@KrisBarocsi Hi! Is the HF Comp Switch on the amp engaged? Its sounding very nice!
Awesome pedal. It really is the best one, sounds identical to the OG Klons and you definitely can hear the subtle differences in the mids in person. Sucks that they can't keep making them tho :(
Great job on this review! I love how u point out the subtle “feel” differences, that stuff matters! Thanks!
Thanks a lot! It’s so strange how nobody even mentions this factor. 🤷♂️
As usual, lovely playing.
I tend to like germanium-based pedals. I don’t know the tech, but I think I hear the difference on the top end-just a little more ‘presence?’ Something like the sweet, delicate treble on a germanium fuzz vs silicon when the guitar volume is rolled down a little? I bought the Tumnus Deluxe semi-recently, and only more recently discovered how much I like it. This, after not getting much use out of a Decibelics and a Zeus. Brian Wampler’s pedals sound amazing into Fender amps.
There is definitely a difference. It's subtle and only really makes itself truly noticeable when you push the pedal through a good, transparent tube amp at volume and move some air. These vintage germanium diodes give slightly thicker, richer dynamics to the subtlety of the distortion. Kids watching others play them in their bedroom through a laptop, processed via youtube will not hear much difference and do not understand proper audio quality anyway.
@@DM-kv9kj Well, you got *part* of that right. I'll try to ignore the dismissive/insulting/reductive/pontificating BS....
You don't need a tube amp. Differences are perfectly represented through modeling/profiling, and you don't need to have it at stage volume, either. Whether i ran them through a '68 Fender Deluxe Reverb or a Kemper Stage, or Tonocracy, or ToneX-all at "bedroom" volume, differences in germanium vs other circuits are apparent. I'm a 56-year old "kid," i guess, and a MacBook Air with ToneX doesn't mean i don't understand/can't hear "proper audio quality." I actually get the sense that something like my iPad accentuates certain nuances, and i have surprising 'luck' identifying variables with that, often versus studio monitors. Go figure. [If youtube compression is such a bear, why are you even here? And opining so vigorously?]
Great playing, but my concert hammered hearing can’t hear the subtle differences from memory. Would like to hear a side by side like you suggest
it sounds awesome for sure! but would be interesting to hear it side by side with the regular Tumnus...
ruclips.net/video/TKWckxVAz_E/видео.html You're welcome
check out andertons they compared it to regular tumnus and a real clone ... they all sound the same XD
You probably won't hear any difference, as for 99% of human beings.
@@ABCDEF-ks5op Pretty much yeah, but you really can hear the difference in person when pushing the pedal through a good tube amp. I just have the old regular Tumnus which is fine for my needs, but compared them with my mate who has the germanium. Subtle differences in dynamics and how they interact with a given amp and speakers are never going to be heard through a youtube video. The germanium diodes give a slightly thicker clarity to the mid range, and when you're actually driving it through a responsive amp and moving air, you can hear and feel the difference unless you're half deaf.
In the nuance comparison the tumnus sounds so full and warm!
Hi Kris, as a lot of these "Germanium Diode Special Editions" were coming out recently, I would bei interested in your opinion, where the Kasleder Pelion fits in the picture? Do you prefer it to the Tumnus or the Centavo? What would be the Klon pedal of your choice, if you could only have one?
tasty playing and tone, bud
Thanks so much!
I got one. Great little pedal. I have so many ODs and Klones. It’s stupid really.
Hi Kris,
Today is a sad day 😢. I have received an email from Thomann telling me that unfortunately they will have to cancel my order as it turned out they oversold the Wampler Germanium tumnus.
This happened after they took the payment and confirmed yesterday that the pedal will arrive eventually but they are not sure when and if I don’t mind waiting (which I don’t) I will get it.
Ohh nooo. So sorry to hear that man! Yeah people went mental on this pedal, even more than I expected. It took hours to oversell them world wide. Hey, you get your money back and don’t worry, it’s not the only amazing sounding klone. 👍 It‘s killer but so is the Kasleder Pelion, the Warm Audio Centavo and then some more. I compared them and they sound virtually the same great. Those are not sold out and I highly recommend checking them out. Cheers!
@@KrisBarocsi thanks Kris your words mean a lot to me.
I will for sure.
Kind regards,
Here's a dumb question...so why can't comparable germanium diodes be manufactured anew? What's so unobtainium about them?
If I get this pedal it'd be to stack with my Revv Tilt OD.
The Germanium Tumnus sounds substantially better than the JRocket Archer.
The test Anderton’s did showed how much better this version is than the old one.
In ordered one.
I ordered both. i will find out. if i ever learn guitar.
Where's the crazy tube circuit hi power video?! 😢
Sounds great but they're all sold now. I'd recommend the Hudson Sidecar for those who can't get the Tumnus. A germanium style tubescreamer that sounds and feels so much better than the original ts9....just my opinion.
Kris, you - and Thomann - should have a workaround offering addional files for comparison reasons since youtube's compression on audio files make it all nonsense.
When you play the pedals, amps, guitars at home and rehearsals they sound totally different.
Also, it's all hyped ;-) and Ge-diodes aren't expensive and that rare.
Cant more germanium diodes be produced?
The problem is, that the whole industry was focused on making them in the 60s... and they require precision, and don't lend themselves to automation... so likely the new ones would suck. Lol. The good news is that they are all over the place in broken audio stuff from the era. .
@Dr.Garlic. ok, but a lot of these pedals specify cat whisker, and that's a pretty crazy thing to automate, right?
Not to be a jerk the Archer has been made with different diodes there are some with germanium and some with silicone. I have an archer with Russian germanium diodes
@@tomduckworth8335 Yes, I meant the original silver Archer. There are great ones like the Jeff Beck or the Select. All of those sound very different.
Hi Kris! Thanks for sharing this review!
Another gear question regarding bolt on necks and their truss rods.
Do you notice any differences in sound or feel between traditional heel adjust truss rods, and neck adjust truss rods?
Hey man, I really don’t think there is any difference in tone. I prefer a headstock side adjustment on everything except for Vintage style fenders (only for visual reasons at the heel on those). But honestly, the best is an adjustment wheel on the heel side. Music Man style. 💪
Thanks for the insights!
Josh: makes notaklon
Brian: hold my beer!
More like hold my germanium diode 😂
@@KrisBarocsi 🤣
I almost was hitting the buy botton on this, and told myself: no, no pedals with magical diodes and stuff.
Now I'm annoyed about it 😖😂
Huge difference on the cleaner tones; it adds a weight that is also clear and 3 dimensional.
The nuanced playing - huge difference. Crisp with nuanced popping out of the speakers.
Sounds excellent.
people are going crazy , this pedal already sold out ? , the new epi greedy lp already sold out ? , what do people think ? , probably they think these new toy's will make them a better guitarist ? yeah , sure mate ! , start practising a bit more , that will do more good then keep on buying new toy's . rant over and out , see you in the live : )
correction : the next live : )
@@antoonhermans8953my man, life is too short to be so concerned about what strangers do with their money and time.
Buying a pedal never stopped anyone from practicing. “New toys?” Do you not use pedals? At some point, everything you own was a “new toy.” People are “going crazy” because it’s a new pedal release; it’s the first klone to use the original diodes that were supposedly unavailable-the most discussed pedal/type over the past couple of decades; and because it’s a limited release. Are you new to the internet? Kinda wondering why you’re here, on a gear platform, taking time to post an illogical “rant,” when you should be practicing more. Or, perhaps you’re already as good as you wanna be? 😊 Rant over.
@@CentaurusRelax314 yes , i am as good at guitarplaying as i will ever become and i achieved my goal by practising a lot and playing in a band for over 40 years , not by buying the latest toy . but if you believe this latest toy will make you a better guitarplayer , then go ahead .
@@antoonhermans8953 As moronic of a reply as your original post. And you’re too wrapped up in your own narcissism to even recognize the point…. Carry on, Captain Awesome.
Another overdrive
Too nerdy for me. Superb playing though.
Fair enough, it is pretty nerdy. 😅 Also, thanks a lot man!