Klon Overdrive Shootout - Rockett Archer vs Mythos Mjolnir vs Wampler Tumnus vs MXR Sugar Drive

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Seth puts 4 of our favorite Klon-inspired overdrive head to head in this weeks shootout. We line up the J Rockett Audio Designs Silver Archer Overdrive/Boost, Mythos Mjolnir Overdrive MK IV, Wampler Tumnus & MXR M294 Sugar Drive Mini.
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Комментарии • 102

  • @Spidouz
    @Spidouz 6 лет назад +20

    8:47 Actually that's a good thing you keep playing the same riff, it allows us to hear the differences between each pedals based on the same riff. It's a comparison, not a product demo. So it's all good!

  • @livingabovethe12th
    @livingabovethe12th 5 лет назад +25

    that "tighter" sound is why i bought the sugar...i like the drive to tighten my following "real gain' - whether it be a pedal or an amp - predrives that add low end create mud (to me) in a mix situation. the tightness of the sugar puts the gtr in the mix where it belongs to my ears. the lowed may sound great listening all by yourself, but not in a mix situation. the ol' "bedroom tone vs pro tone" discussion.

    • @slimturnpike
      @slimturnpike 3 года назад +1

      +1 Sugar

    • @MatthewTomich
      @MatthewTomich 2 года назад +2

      These are all great. MXR pedals are under appreciated. Every amp should come with their 10 band EQ.

  • @jammer777
    @jammer777 4 года назад +4

    “All pedals are different, the knobs aren’t in the same place.” Profound!

  • @n00bzor1228
    @n00bzor1228 6 лет назад +5

    Dude these videos are sick. I was spacing out researching pedals when I came across this channel, I did a double take. That's the cool dude I bought a pedal from at Alvas! I bought a ditto x2 from you like a month ago and we joked about no one being as passionate about loopers as they are overdrive. Good shit!

  • @MythosPedals
    @MythosPedals 6 лет назад +69

    I liked the Mjolnir the best too! :)

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals 6 лет назад +2

      Haha thats great. Hopefully I can get out there to do videos with you guys soon!

    • @fragtagninja1633
      @fragtagninja1633 4 года назад +2

      I played through a Mjolnir. Really impressed by that pedal. I also have a sneaking suspicion that it would pair beautifully with my Morning Glory.

  • @drdre4397
    @drdre4397 2 года назад +4

    I own a sugar drive, it was one of my first pedals and even though they may be some better klon clones out there I really love it. I use it as the last drive in my chain to just give everything that extra punch when needed, it is fantastic for that. It also is great value and takes up no space. I recently built my dream pedalboard with some nice pedals but the sugar drive is a good reminder that boutique isn't always better. Kingfish uses one aswell!

  • @danyjr
    @danyjr 4 года назад +5

    My preference based on this video would be Tmunus or the Sugar Drive but I would take any of these. This video only shows one setting for the drives, you can modify them to tailor the sound the way you want.

  • @knightofswords
    @knightofswords 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the shoot out! Love these, they helped me choose a vibe pedal.

  • @chrisdeibel1987
    @chrisdeibel1987 4 года назад +4

    I appreciate you going through each one of these and honestly you are correct, you can’t really make a bad choice and it is personal taste. Great demo man!

  • @eddlabel
    @eddlabel 6 лет назад +15

    To me the Tumnus blends in some dry signal together with the overdriven sound. That should be the reason why it sounds more bassy and defined. It's the best standalone drive of the 3 I had.
    The Archer is on my board right now because I think it pushes other drivers better.
    MXR is nice, but sounds a little harsh on the upper highs to my ears, it's a matter of taste. For solos it sounds amazing though.
    All your videos are amazing man! Keep them coming!

    • @marcsullivan7987
      @marcsullivan7987 3 года назад

      The Sugar def also blends clean. It’s a stacked pot. And it also “power stacks” the 9V to 18v, as the Klon does

  • @herringbone72
    @herringbone72 6 лет назад +2

    You did a really good job demoing these.

  • @edgarkleinmann7386
    @edgarkleinmann7386 6 лет назад +29

    The Tumnus just sounds more natural and uncolored to me. Even at highest gain, you can still get the character of your clean tone. That’s what I’m looking for in a Klon pedal

  • @tonecontrol5624
    @tonecontrol5624 Год назад +1

    Bro you have to match the potentiometers by ear. Noon on one might be 11 on another. All pots are different- you could get these sounding way more similar. Use your ears not eyes. The sugar drive needed more treble & volume at the beginning to sound like it actually does when compared to the others

  • @JonnyRocksAW
    @JonnyRocksAW 4 года назад +19

    3:33 you're welcome

  • @thechronicnoizeco.6675
    @thechronicnoizeco.6675 6 лет назад +10

    Tummnus sounded fuller or more substantial.

  • @bruhdamartinasty3636
    @bruhdamartinasty3636 3 года назад +2

    The right way to compare pedals is to work with each one separately. Don't just put the knobs at the same setting for all of them. Each pedal is manufactured and calibrated differently. I recently compared two pedals and in order to get the volumes to match I had to set the volume at 9 o'clock one one pedal and 3 o'clock on the other one.

  • @AllenPinchloaf
    @AllenPinchloaf 6 лет назад +5

    It would also be cool to hear these thru a Fender circuit.Thank You kindly

  • @ebeep
    @ebeep 6 лет назад +4

    The Tumnus is considerably brighter than the other 3. Sounds good for RUclips but I would guess it would be a problem for me in person. Archer and Sugar sound most similar.

  • @thomasmoore3822
    @thomasmoore3822 3 года назад

    Great video. Like all the ones you do especially how you tell us your favorite. Thank you.

  • @MarkBadia
    @MarkBadia 9 месяцев назад

    Great video I would love to see a follow on where you compare the winner of this one Mjolnir against the Wampler Tumnas Deluxe and the J Rocket Ikon (Gold). I was leaning to the Tumnas Deluxe because it has more flexibility in how you can adjust the sound, so get the Klon but not limited to just that Klon sound along, but I also liked the Mjolnir so would be interesting to see how far it takes you vs the Tumnas Deluxe.

  • @lauraandrews8319
    @lauraandrews8319 6 лет назад +8

    I own the MXR and the Tumnus. I use the Tumnus for my crunch and the MXR second in the chain if I want more of a singing lead. They are both great pedals, the Tumnus is more versatile, and the MXR is a great pedal for the money.

  • @jaychen2000metal
    @jaychen2000metal 5 лет назад +3

    Do these into high gain and see wich one remains the most clear

  • @topografer
    @topografer 2 года назад

    You keep playing the same riff so we can hear the differences and this is exactly the kind of riff I would like to hear when trying to figure out what a klon sounds like so yeah good job!

  • @DjNorbax
    @DjNorbax 2 года назад

    I had discarded Klon types since I bought my Sugar Drive because I couldn’t gel with it. Then yesterday I tried an Archer: oh man was I wrong! It shows that same circuit based pedals may differ A LOT in tone and feel. Whereas the MXR sounded stiff, honky with bass loss, the Archer sounded warmer, fuller and natural under the finger. Now I’m selling 3 of my best pedals so they can be replaced by that one.

  • @denizstratocaster
    @denizstratocaster 3 года назад +1

    They all are great pedals!!! I own the Archer en the Archer Ikon, and they both works for me! But the mxr sugerdrive is awesome too.. i am interesting in it!! Archer the winner for me.. the mxr sugerdrive a second winner!

  • @MrsDoublefire13
    @MrsDoublefire13 6 месяцев назад

    Actually, I was A/B-ing the Sugar Drive and Mjolnir by clicking back and forth on the video. I felt that they sounded exactly the same during the Led Zeppelin riff. The Tumnus didn't sound transparent it added a little bit of color. I think you're right about the Mjolnir being the best but only because the Sugar Drive just seams a little starved for power. However, I don't think it matters because most people use the Klon to shape their tone by stacking it with other drive pedals. I personally would throw out the Tumnus based on what I heard in the video. #unpopularopinion

  • @tomthumb4325
    @tomthumb4325 4 года назад +1

    Great demo sir greetings from Bonnie Scotland

  • @10ATF848
    @10ATF848 2 года назад +2

    Is it just me? Or the clean tone sounds muffled like a blanket over your amp. So when regardless what pedal was engaged, sounds doesn’t get any better.

  • @122Music1
    @122Music1 5 лет назад +8

    Was this recorded with a sleeping bag over the mic?
    Thank U for the effort, but that amp sounds Ssooooooo dark...

  • @pressonc
    @pressonc 5 лет назад +4

    Tumnus all the way.

  • @ferox965
    @ferox965 3 года назад +1

    Just got the Tumnus. I absolutely love it.

  • @hailmaryrecordings8255
    @hailmaryrecordings8255 4 года назад

    Great work here. Rock on! ☮️

  • @benforsey
    @benforsey 6 лет назад +3

    The Mjolnir sounds best with Rhythm. The Tumnus has a lovely richness and sustain to it that for me, makes it the best sounding boost for leads. The Archer sounds really close to an actual Klon. So probably the best pedal if you just wanted to add it to a clean sound

  • @themattybags
    @themattybags 6 лет назад +6

    Good demo! Only thing is that your pedal levels were all off. You mentioned that the Sugar Drive and the Mjolnir had more drive than the Tumnus but you had the Tumnus set at 25% gain while the other two were cranked up to 50. You also had the Mythos volume way down and the gain cranked when you compared to the tumnus and mentioned that the Mjolnir had more gain (tho it was because of your settings, not the overall feel of the pedal itself)

    • @themattybags
      @themattybags 6 лет назад +2

      Also most people set up Klons and Klones with the gain almost at 0 and the volume and tone cranked a bit more. It would've been nice to see them compared with similar settings.

  • @jacobm7421
    @jacobm7421 4 года назад +1

    Idk why they didn't use a fender amp. That should be a standard for reviewing pedals . unless the pedal calls for a edge of breakup tone.

  • @vintagepipesnightmares
    @vintagepipesnightmares 4 года назад +3

    Mjulnir sounds like a distortion pedal

  • @markp4818
    @markp4818 2 года назад

    Cool comparison, all of them are great pedals. Did you consider using a Keeley Oxblood instead of the MXR?

  • @thirdageamplifiers
    @thirdageamplifiers 5 лет назад +2

    Seriously? How is it in this day people are still using phone mics for Demos?

  • @topografer
    @topografer 2 года назад +1

    I think the Mjolnir and the Tumnus are the best Klon in this format. Or in any. Love em both
    You should also try the Ceriatone and the RYRA versions, both are great

  • @zachb5803
    @zachb5803 3 месяца назад

    Tumnus wins for me. Clear not boxy like the others. Archer was 2nd

  • @leehenderson8132
    @leehenderson8132 2 года назад

    Where is the Mathews Architect?it is soo much better than most you show.

  • @bastiancozy9995
    @bastiancozy9995 5 лет назад +46

    too much talk bro...

  • @BIGFKING
    @BIGFKING 3 года назад +1

    Tumnus is the winner.Archer is cut high freq, other is less dymanics and un-natural sound.

  • @RC2V6
    @RC2V6 3 года назад

    Whats the difference between these ovd pedals and a tube screamer like ts9?

    • @fixelheimer3726
      @fixelheimer3726 3 года назад +1

      So far I've come, the Tube screamer has less clarity, cuts more bass, boosts more mids, less dynamics.

  • @christopherebeyrol4553
    @christopherebeyrol4553 5 лет назад +1

    all are ok, but for me, Mjolnir is the one I dislike...Archer and Taumnus a little bit higher

  • @BudderChicken101
    @BudderChicken101 6 лет назад

    Great vid! Keep it up!

  • @adzlespaul1
    @adzlespaul1 3 года назад

    Good demo. The mic tone was so accurate as to what you'd hear in a room. Probably the best mic tone I've heard on a demo.

  • @Josbornevonosborne
    @Josbornevonosborne 6 лет назад +3

    I liked this video man. Have a little more confidence in yourself man. It's clear to me that you are capable of doing some really killer videos in the future.

  • @keith.loves.lasagna
    @keith.loves.lasagna 4 года назад

    Archer sounds the best as a Klon but I really like the Mjolnir as a remixed Klon.

  • @rossco-dps5392
    @rossco-dps5392 2 года назад

    Third one. Mulenor

  • @anonymoususer3496
    @anonymoususer3496 4 года назад +2

    Archer is best.. however the Tumnus Deluxe is better than all of them (including the old Tumnus).. IMO.

  • @TheTinMan123
    @TheTinMan123 3 года назад

    Mythos the led is blinding. Wampler wins

  • @allanross9154
    @allanross9154 6 лет назад +2

    Clones should be able to do treble sounds, I think they sound like crap when used bassy, I don't want (meat, low end, or "full end" from a klon..) Now honestly, I only have "klones" but I gravitate to the slight high EQ with my Friedman Dirty Shirley...And why is he only using the bridge pickup of a Tele.... Ick...... loosest bass tone ever.

  • @DanyAguilar
    @DanyAguilar 5 лет назад +2

    Tumnus says my ears

  • @MaxPaws
    @MaxPaws 6 лет назад +3

    Wouldn’t it make sense to have a real Klon or at least a KTR in the lineup as reference?

    • @BudderChicken101
      @BudderChicken101 6 лет назад +1

      MaxPaws maybe they weren’t able to get a hold of one?

    • @yomuthabyotch
      @yomuthabyotch 6 лет назад

      Alvas Music, was gonna say that to be snarky but turned out to be true!

    • @alvasllc1313
      @alvasllc1313  6 лет назад +3

      if we could afford one yes

  • @gustavocardosodeoliveiradi456
    @gustavocardosodeoliveiradi456 6 лет назад +1

    And now? My doubt, Sugar drive or J Rockett Archer?

    • @Brian-hp8yd
      @Brian-hp8yd 6 лет назад +2

      Don't doubt it. Test them for yourself. If you want the Mjolnir drive because that's what this video is trying to sell, go for it. This video is total social marketing biased to one pedal, unfortunately.

    • @dennissvara8668
      @dennissvara8668 4 года назад

      Archer obviously!

  • @xxPanteraxxx
    @xxPanteraxxx 4 года назад +1

    Never seen a guitar strapped so high before.

    • @pcollenyt3683
      @pcollenyt3683 4 года назад +3

      Roy Buchanan...Scott Henderson...

    • @jsphillip60
      @jsphillip60 4 года назад +1

      @@pcollenyt3683 Yes, it may not look as "cool", but it's a lot more functional!

    • @bradgriffith9628
      @bradgriffith9628 2 года назад

      Tom Morrello

  • @denismguitar1552
    @denismguitar1552 6 лет назад

    They all sound dark with no top end. Not my experience with that circuit. Tumnus is hard to beat overall.

    • @whhateveridklol2982
      @whhateveridklol2982 6 лет назад

      that's just how he has his eq set on the amp + the tone knob not being turned to the max on each pedal

  • @jacobm7421
    @jacobm7421 4 года назад

    Nash Guitars are awesome . but most of their relics look like a 500$ relic guitar copy. I don't understand why they cost so much.

  • @vintagepipesnightmares
    @vintagepipesnightmares 4 года назад +1

    The Tumnus does that Klon thing the best ! It is such a shame that Wampler didn’t went for the look also. Such a shame that it looks like it does ! Archer looks so much better and it goes with the theme. Wampler lose a lot of clients to the Archer just becoes Tumnus looks like a Chinese pedal that has nothing to do with the Klone

  • @SLVH13
    @SLVH13 3 года назад

    with the blue LED on the side the MXR isn't true-bypassed....... Fail

  • @bayougtr
    @bayougtr 6 лет назад

    When I tried the SugarDrive, it kept reminding me of the SoulFood.

    • @Jaysteenn
      @Jaysteenn 6 лет назад +1

      I really like the Soul Food with the drive all the way off tho. I wonder how the JHS soul food is? I have Tumnus Deluxe and Matthews Effects Architect V2 that are My Goto Klons.

    • @romeou4965
      @romeou4965 4 года назад +2

      EHX Soul Food is also a clone circuit of the Klon Centaur

  • @gainonten4031
    @gainonten4031 3 года назад

    they sound the same

  • @joecarboni2806
    @joecarboni2806 5 лет назад

    Must play notes'???? Wake up!

  • @blueserman
    @blueserman 3 года назад

    Тебе, браток, надо качнуть прессок. А не на гитаре пилить

  • @sergioalvarez5949
    @sergioalvarez5949 5 месяцев назад

    You lost me by wasting time describing the guitar.

  • @Ganache30
    @Ganache30 5 лет назад +1

    nice idea, bad audio quality

  • @coolbean5
    @coolbean5 6 лет назад +3

    amp is too dirty to be objective

    • @dandyism7288
      @dandyism7288 5 лет назад +3

      coolbean5 there’s no wrong or right but that’s actually the best way to test klon type pedals . Original klon is famous for boosting clipping amps and not as stand alone overdrive.

    • @guitarocd9984
      @guitarocd9984 5 лет назад

      Actually that's what I want to know. How it can boost an already over driven amp.

  • @brakeme1
    @brakeme1 6 лет назад

    this was a sort of demo video... NOT comparison...not really...admit it.

  • @brooklynboy1000
    @brooklynboy1000 Год назад

    your base tone is awful and its out of tune

  • @rohadtanyad8908
    @rohadtanyad8908 6 лет назад +3

    no lead tones, just basic chords? you really need more of a player to demo pedals to see what they are capable of.

  • @ReyYbarra
    @ReyYbarra 2 года назад

    When the playing is so terrible they all sound bad….

  • @Biffinnbridge
    @Biffinnbridge 3 года назад +1

    You like the sound of your own voice too much. Have you ever watched successful channels review something? Zip it 🤐

  • @chanceterrill5346
    @chanceterrill5346 4 года назад +1

    Two words....... Gastric bypass