The Socialist Politics of Hideo Kojima - From Che Guevara to Guantanamo Bay
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- With Death Stranding releasing this week, I take a detailed look back at the work of Hideo Kojima. It is clear Kojima is one of the most outspoken creators in the industry tackling everything from child soldiers to Guantanamo Bay.
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Time stamps:
-2:11 - Hideo Kojima’s Backstory
-6:12 - The Boss
-11:03 - Big Boss, MSF and the Sandinistas
-14:25 - Kaz and Kojima’s view of Japan
-16:48 - Snake and Kojima’s love of Che Guevara
-21:06 - MGSV multiplayer and Kojima’s stance on nukes
-24:53 - Conclusion
-26:51 - Epilogue
So THIS is why Rageaholic hates Metal Gear. Huh.
Of course, the greatest argument against capitalism involving Kojima is Konomi firing him to make Metal Gear: Survive.
Lol exactly!
It’s also the greatest argument against “Keep politics outta games!” because the VERY political Metal Gear games under Kojima were all classics, but the “throw politics out of a wormhole into a world of crystal head zombies” Survive FUCKING MURDERED the franchise.
If Survive is so bad why must its haters constantly remind everyone that it is ?
Likewise if capitalism is so good why must its proponents remind everyone that it is?
Notice the hypocrisy? Survive may not have deep political issues, but don't tell anyone you were gonna get any metal gear game not bearing Kojimas name anyway.
How else do you respond when he puts the company through financial hell
@@professionalspecialist5780 Hell that always... made money in the end. Not quick and dirty, but complex and great money that made me want to buy konami games before the mobile market destroyed my desire.
Saw this video on my Reddit feed and I am surprised with the level of quality. Now a subscriber!
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I would go even a bit further, and speculate that as a type of socialist Kojima is most likely specifically an anarcho-pacifist, or if he doesn't self-identify as one would fit perfectly in the definition of an anarcho-pacifist anyway.
whats the difference between anarcho pacifism and being an anarchist pacifist?
@@freeofavia Possibly page count when it comes to writing Russian literature? For being an anarcho-pacifist, Tolstoy's War and Peace could be used as a deadly weapon.
that just makes him a a bleeding heart liberal in my opinion
I always gathered that Kojima was sort of on the left anyway from when I first played MGS1. Never before had I played a game that was so politically charged and critical. I mean, I was 10 so didn't get the nuances of the ideological shit but certainly understood the "WAR BAD!" message which engaged me way more than any hippie crap from the 60s and 70s.
Idk man, CCR is really good.
@@waketp420 they are indeed.
I bet people in the 60s and 70s were pretty damn engaged in their anti war movements. Come on man, Gimme Shelter, Fortunate Son, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now; anti war art was some of the best ever.
I didnt remember a lot of these codec conversations.
Great stuff
Snake eater is the best game ever made
One of them for sure
Really interesting to see how his biography shapes the games he creates. I'm not a fan of his games, but I love that he makes them, and I think you did a great job at illuminating his politics in his work.
Thanks J. J. ! I would recommend giving them another chance if you have played a few - MSGV is pretty accessible and I really like Death Stranding so far
yeah i can't pay attention to a full game but I'd absolutely love to talk with him and i want to give him eleven billion dollars so he can make anything he wants
V had some reactionary undertones in the form of Skull Face. Even though he was the antagonist to the order you could have compassion for what motivated him, having grown up in between the battles of the would be imperial war machines, razing out traditional identities and social forms, subsuming them into the technocratic order.
I haven't seen anyone else online talk about this aspect, but it does seem Kojima has some affinity here. It becomes apparent that Zero's plan is one where people ultimately have to be forced to become one.
Really good video!!
Wow. Enjoy the sub comrade. As someone from Colombia, whose family has a history of oppression by the United States, I appreciate this video :)
Thanks so much Castillo!
MGS games are like an American James Bond written by an Anime fan.
7:11 let’s be real guys. Many of us cried at this moment.
or at least in the end to all nukes scene. Especially when they dedicate it to her, I was bawling. Honestly, I haven't even played MGS3
"It's ironic gamers love him considering they hate political messaging, especially coming from the left"
I don't understand why it's so hard for ya'll to understand, gamers don't simply hate politics in stories they hate it when it's RAMED DOWN YOUR THROAT AND MAKES NO SENSE TO THE PLOT OR CHARACTERS.
Put it this way Kojima's Metal Gear Solid series is a game with it's foundation of it's world, characters, and lore built on politics, ghostbusters 2016, Doctor Who, Marvel comics and Last of Us 2 are not built on politics, they are built on action, adventure, romance or fun, political crap was never a main theme of those stories but ret they've been remade, rebooted or sequeled, doused with it today. It's like making a burger the beef inside is the man course, that's Metal Gear Solid with politics. All those other games are just buns with the meat all forced on it later and doused with beef juice. It doesn't work because it's foundation isn't political to begin with. Also Kojima might be classically leftist with his love of Che, talking about Castro and all that but he's no SJW or identitarian, ya'll got triggered when he created Quiet, doesn't clearly he doesn't give two fucks about your idea of feminism. He even predicted today's social climate on arguably his best game MGS2 with the AI colonels speech.
The reason why Gamers/Anti-SJWs and Right wingers like Lefty Kojima's games is because the man is talented and knows how to write his politics in interesting ways that's not preachy and doesn't villainies you if you don't agree. It's not that hard.
Kojima’s views are also seen through a Japanese lens and their politics of what’s left and right are not the same as the west. It’s also funny how they make being anti-war (let alone anti-nuke) an exclusively left issue.
Yeah, the reason gamers _sometimes_ hate seeing identity politics is just when they're injected into games where they don't belong. If lefties weren't stuck in their anti right tunnel vision, they'd realise how contemptuous it is too. Because the studios aren't doing it to promote 'social equality' they're literally just doing it because they want to attract a wider fanbase and sell more games. They're just packaging 'inclusivity' as a marketable product to sell more copies. They obviously don't care about identity equality at all.
The reason everyone was pissed off about Battlefield for instance is because women simply don't belong in war games on the front lines lol. And the studio were just doing it as a desperate attempt to appeal to a female demographic and sell more copies. It failed because female demographics hate FPS games and 99% of the audience is male. It's just stupid to try and market a game to a demographic which has no interest in playing... if they really cared about equality, they could just make a new game where female soldiers fit... Do you see anyone complaining about female operators in Rainbow Six? Nope, because in Tom Clancey's world female operators _fit_
This is how I feel about it, and I know plenty of lefties who understand this concept. They're just as pissed off about it, because they see it as companies trying to sell social ideals back to them simply to capitalise off of them. If the R-tard lefties understood this, maybe we'd have better games lol.
No more politics in my video games!!! /s
**Proceeds to drool all over MGS3**
I like that about him. But he's also a huge f*cking creep when it comes to the depiction of women. So I'm torn.
@Phani teja yes because the way media depicts and sexualises men and women are completely different in current society. that doesn't justify creepy behaviour
Centrism and Political & Military Opportunism are also anit-thetical to Socialism
Pretty much. Putting communism and capitalism in the same vein is reactionary
socialism is not pacifism
Please do more left wing gaming stuff
I will in future! This took a lot of time though
I'd say keep politics OUT of gaming all together especially hard core left wing garbage
@@toddgirard1856 imagine thinking games should lack politics when all the best games have them
Why only left wing?
There's usually a left-wing slant when it comes to creative people
idk about the part about japan becomming a peaceful nation because of the nuclear bombs and how sad it was...like yeah it was sad an unnecessary but it was honestly nothing compared to what japan did to china. way more evil imo, and way more inspiring of a reason to turn japan into a peaceful nation , and not a single mention of it.
If you take a look at the history books, you'll see Japan's leadership had no intention of forming a democracy. The only reason they adopted a liberalist democracy was because of the post war negotiations. USA forced them to demilitarise and adopt a new constitution based off English common law. Japan begrudgingly accepted because it was either that or continue getting bombed. The reason they got bombed was because they were a fascist military dictatorship who kept expanding all over Asia. They were literally the Nazi's of the East.
Would love to see a political analysis of Death Stranding..
Interesting analysis. Now you have my attention.
Kojima was against socialism too. Kojima was Nietzschean. The story of Peacewalker and MGS5 is showing how Big Boss turned from hero to villain. The establishment of Outer Heaven turned into a blight on society, which achieved the exact opposite of what they wanted. He continued to jockey for power with Zero because of their misinterpretations of the Boss' will which was to 'unite the world'. Keep in mind, Solid Snake and Otacon had to fight against Big Boss and everyone who tried to carry out his vision. Both Big Boss'' Socialist Outer Heaven and Zero's Technocracy were oppressive systems which brought the world to the brink of destruction. Kojima was obviously criticising the vision of Capitalism _and_ Communism. He was telling the audience that radicalist ideology is the wrong way because it always leads to oppression. The reason it looks like he's in favour of socialism is because you purposely only chose Peacewalker and MGS5 lol. If you analysed the entire series as a whole, you'd see he was definitely not in favour of Socialism.
Big Boss at the end of MGS4 - "It's not about changing the world, it's about doing our best to leave the world the way it is. It's about respecting the will of others, and believing in your own."
He says this right at the end of the story, when he's finally realised he had misinterpreted the Boss' vision. Even he admits his pursuit of a socialist utopia was the wrong direction.
Kojima was telling a cautionary tale about the pursuit of all radical ideals. At the end of Snake eater, they all began united (Big Boss, Zero, Kaz, Sigint, Para-Medic, Ocelot), and they were united by their wish to make the original Boss' dream a reality (to unite the world as one). Big boss, Kaz, Ocelot etc. wanted to achieve this through socialist ideals, and Zero, Sigint, Para-Medic wanted to achieve it through a technocracy. Both parties were wrong in their interpretation of the Boss' will. Both ideologies are incorrect interpretations of the Boss' will to make the world whole, because they both end up creating systems of oppression. They lose sight of what they're really fighting over and end up just fighting for power over the world. They think this power will manifest as a utopia, but all it creates is a world of perpetual conflict.
The point of Kojima's message is to stop being a simp to ideology in general, and to forge your own path instead. That's why he keeps criticising the player for wanting to LARP as Big Boss or Solid Snake, that's why he has the theme of genes and not allowing your fate to be dictated by the 'destiny' encoded within them. In a world where times and society continue to change, you can't have one ideology preserved in stasis. Because as time changes, ideology becomes outdated and the only way for it to perpetuate is through oppression. All of this aligns with Nietzsche's values.
Listen to what Big Boss says to Solid Snake at the end of MGS4 - ruclips.net/video/JqRNO1zQx_Y/видео.htmlsi=bAegNfF_BiZGF_Up&t=1164
He admits that he was wrong all along and that the only way for the world to become whole and free again is for his and Zero's life to end (along with all the other ideologues who tried to manifest the Boss' vision). All the stuff he did in Peacewalker and MGS5 were mistakes, Kojima was portraying their adoption of Socialism as part of their arc from Hero to Villain. Even though they had a 'good intention' of uniting the world, the only way to achieve this was through force which meant they continued fanning the flames of war. Ironically, they just divided the world in their pursuit to unite because they couldn't allow for any other ideology to perpetuate. In creating their own 'stateless, borderless system', they actually just created their own tyrannical separatist state. Their Socialist haven (Outer Heaven) just became the antithesis of the thing which they were fighting against, and the only way for the world to move forward was for them to die. Allowing their vision to die so they could give room for a new world to spawn with its own unique identity.
This is why Kojima is Nietzschean (not Capitalist, Socialist or any other ideology) - He rejects herd mentality, he tells the audience to follow their own path, he encourages human vitality and he rejects rigid ideology. Solid Snake and Otacon represent Nietzsche's 'Free Spirit' who would usher in a new way of life which is free from the constraints of state sanctioned norms - capitalism, socialism and all of the 'isms'.
Big Boss' arc is literally “Beware that when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.” - His Socialist vision failed because he was too steeped in his radical pursuit of a false vision.
Please make a video about 'Death Stranding'
I’m actually playing it right now! Waiting until I complete it
@@TheKavernacle Enjoy it! I loved it and I think u're going to make a great video. "The old world is dying and the new world struggles to be born..."
Fantastic video dude! I really ought to get Peace Walker for the 360 soon. This felt especially like a mini-documentary, it was great. Kojima is just fascinating, like not only is he the only real public personality game dev (others are active, like Miyamoto but not exactly public figures of the same scale and celebrity), but he is so political. It makes me wonder if anyone else in triple A tried to do what he does, if they would be able to get away with it. Particularly the stuff with Che.
Oh and it is always cool to see gaming topics on the channel. They have a transformative nature that no other medium really reaches, in the right hands they are a perfect tool for empathy, in the wrong hands they can assist in normalizing imperialism. With this and the COD vid, I wonder if there are any lefty gaming topics you are thinking of covering that are not connected to war? Not a critique, just wondering cause gaming is so centered on conflict, and ideological politics and policy are not super common in indie works beyond maybe anti commercialism like in Bendy. Though Undertale is a good example of not just progressive identity politics, but a message about peace. It would be neat to see someone tackle economics under capitalism in a humanizing way in games, maybe Sims but under the crushing thumb of capital.
But yeah keep up the great work
Thanks a lot Redleader appreciate the nice words man!
In terms of other games I’m not too sure. Most of the games I play are violent. So ones I have thought of doing videos on are stuff like Mafia III, Witcher 3, some of the Bioshock games but outside of that I’m not so sure. Haven’t played something stuff like Undertale tbh probably have to broaden my gaming horizons
I think the Che admiration from Big Boss was more of a parallel. This game was actually the game that saw Big Boss transform from the idealistic soldier to the extremist warlord from the msx but was so uncharacteristically subtle that it went over the heads of many. By the end of this game Big Boss is in charge of a nuclear equipped nation and is hell bent on opposing the world, has declared The Boss's sacrifice a betrayal of him and everything he stands for, has recruited his first child soldier, and has announced his intention to have MSF become criminals and even terrorists if the times demand it. Yet despite this he remains kind hearted, charismatic and compassionate. The che parallel comes from the fact that some worshipped Che as a revolutionary hero while others derided him as a socialist lunatic and terrorist. This is much the same as how Big Boss was viewed - a nuclear terrorist and traitor to some, a beloved hero and leader to many others
You are more intelligent than this dude who can't see past his left wing sunglasses. And see Kojima is writing Big Boss not himself.
@@DoubleO88 And you’re a salty little bitch.
@@DoubleO88 Ironically they’re stuck in the same echo chambers foretold in MGS2
Thankyou, finally someone gets it lol. This whole story was about how Big Boss turned from hero to villain. It's like these people know nothing about metal gear 1 and metal gear 2. Big Boss was a terrorist lunatic who threatened the world with nukes and Solid Snake had to clean up his mess. The whole story is about Big Boss and co. VS Zero and co. Both sides are trying to bring the original Boss' vision into reality, but through their misinterpretation of her will they end up fighting for power and almost enslaving the world.
Big Boss, Kaz and Ocelot following socialist ideals is actually part of Kojima's cautionary tale about following radicalist ideals. They always end in a struggle for power and oppression. This couldn't possibly be any more anti socialist lol.
The guy who made the video purposely picked the two stories cos they fit his narrative. If he analysed the story as a whole, it would completely go against the socialist narrative. It's obvious he knows this too, because he says the other installments in the series 'aren't relevant'. Yes, of course they aren't relevant when you're trying to push a radical marxist/socialist narrative lol.
This is one of your best videos. How do you think Kojima's future will be now that he's out of the hand of Konami?
Thanks Emilio really appreciate the comment! And I’m playing Death Stranding right now and it’s super optimistic in terms of political messaging but also batshit insane lol
@@TheKavernacle it's such an odd game. I feel like Kojima unchained is something that might be a little bit too incomprehensible.
I feel like Kojima's political message was limited by the framework of making video games under capitalism but it also forced him to be clever about it. It will be interesting to see him unchained
KOJIMA UNCHAINED. And I agree with you too some extent but the underlying story of MGSV is really insane as well as is Metal Gear Solid 2.
The insanity of Death Stranding comes from the world. It’s really just so crazy to even wrap your head around. I’m starting to understand it more but yeah lots going on here lol
@@TheKavernacle I can't wait to actually see a video explaining how Death stranding is about the Russian Revolution or something 😂
Kojima said it’s about Trump and Brexit 😂
This was excellent!
Thanks a lot man, appreciate it! Thought I recognised your name and I’ve seen you on BreadTube a fair bit! Forgotten to subscribe so I’ve amended that now - as someone whose Anglo-Irish I appreciate your perspective on Irish political issues as it’s something I wish I was better informed on
@@TheKavernacle That's very nice of you to say - plenty more to come in that regard. The Radical Reflections podcast offers another really good Irish leftist perspective on international events if you're interested. Keep up the great work!
I got the nuke MGSV scene on my PS4 ...
It was an accident I think since obviously the goal wasn’t completed
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Sir, you created a very fine video here. Congrats on your analysis. Good to celebrate a game like Metal Gear not only for its technical features but more so for its outstanding story and political views. The anti-nuclear stand throughout the series is most apparently and especially in MGS1 for PS1 very cinematic for its time. Thank you and would be nice if you can find other gaming stuff to analyze with a non-heroic-only perspective on western supremacy.
kinda funny to compare impirialist japan, to the banana wars ngl, bruh truly believes the propaganda huh
amazing video, i had no idea how much real history was involved in MGS
Good video, feel like this analysis could work with black lagoon, not too familiar with analysis in media but I saw dutch reading mao and his opinions on fascist but not too sure if the show has more to say
Clicked on the video cos mgs ended up watching the whole video
Good shit 👌
Thanks a lot bro !
Metal Gear has some apple sauce so good people with bad media analysis skills believe that there's no pill so hard they ignore it entirely
Love this video never would have thought of these granted my knowledge of MGS is really just 4, rising and 5
(Socialist) death strandin VS (capitalist) dark soul. which is better?
Death Stranding!
Ah, yes, Dark Souls, a game about endless cycles of pain, torment and death. Of Nations and leaders too afraid to give up their power, that they let it all rot and decay to the point of ghoulish undeath.
Actually when put that way, Dark Souls is 100% representative of capitalism!
third .
Was Death Stranding made by a Co-Op or a public company?
Otherwise...
by your standard, we should have stay in middle age & slavery@@Anti-Parasite2023-pp8uu
I definitely do not agree with his ideologies but I can appreciate his games
Thank you for being a respectful and understanding human being open to different views. Extremely rare nowadays.
I always thought Kojima and MGS were left leaning but the minutes of Che worship was shocking in the best way
@monke Kojima has a framed-picture of Che Guevara in his house and Big Boss goes out of his way to separate what he does from what Che does, I get feeling Kojima likes Che at least a lil
@monke Big Boss is a mercenary with no ideology while Che is a revolutionary with a very specific Marxist-Leninist ideology, Big Boss points this out himself and dislikes the comparison, saying he's supposed to be exactly like Che is a little out there, especially when he starts doing jobs for the CIA and Mujahadeen in 5
@monke the game creates an aesthetic parallel of how the Sandinistas see Snake as a hero who's come to liberate them when really MSF was only looking out for themselves and there own goals first and foremost, which is why Snake says he isn't "fit to polish Che's boots" because he's not a hero, he's a war profiteer but nah I'm sure Kojima hates Che based on all that merch he buys and posts himself with
@t_t08 Big Boss is inarguably the villain if you played all of the games (especially MG2: Solid Snake).
Such a good video! Really did alot of research to put all this together. Great work!
This video is amazing, I started to like and read stuff about geopolitics and the bad things that war can bring thanks to MGS, love the series so much.
MY 👏 JAM 👏. Excellent, man ❤️ Kojima is my dude. Waiting on Death Stranding arrival today 😍
Thanks Raeleigh, and playing the first hour I just though - what the fuck haha
HasanAbi "reacted" to your video and got more views of it. Absolutely bullshit
I think this commentary is a long shot. To me, both The Boss and Naked Snake clearly says that they neither align themselves with capitalism nor with communism/socialism. And as a centrist, this understanding resonates with me the most.
One problem with your video is that you generally make the assumption that "Everything done by USA = Capitalism", which might be true under some cases, but doesn't hold true for most cases. After the end of World War 2, Europe was really devastated, major British, German, French, Dutch, etc. cities were constantly bombarded for years. Nearly every European country's economy was in shambles. Nothing of that sort had happened to USA, and with this advantage they exploited the weakness of other European countries and coerced them into the post Bretton-Woods era, an era were USA was a superpower and rest of the world's economy and finance were fixed onto the USA economy and everybody had to accept this injustice. Organizations like the UN, OECD, NATO, WTO, IMF, World Bank etc. had been all constructed around 70 years ago to protect this new world order through economic, political, financial, militaristic means. So, first things first, I believe even classical economists like Adam Smith wouldn't approve such a world order or claim it's all according to the capitalism. American imperialism is not necessarily a defining property of original capitalism. They are two distinct concepts, but you generally stir them in the same pot. USA shouldn't have been flagship of the capitalist world in the first place, they are an abhorently bad choice for that. As a centrist, I'm not opposed to capitalism as an economic model, but I'm definitely opposed to American application of it enforced along with imperialism. I'm not happy with the current world order, I'm not happy with the wealth inequality, and I think this has to change ASAP.
I can clearly say that I'm not a communist or socialist, but I too, like Hideo Kojima or Naked Snake, respect Che Guevara as a revolutionary fighting against American imperialsim and trying to protect the interests of the people in Latin America. I also respect Vladimir Lenin, I also respect Karl Marx. Karl Marx made lots of invaluable criticisms against capitalism, he maybe even made the current world much more equal and just than an alternative world without Karl Marx and Das Kapital. I think his initial remarks about the post-industrial revolution world are true. I also believe his dialectic method that was inspired by Socratic dialogues and Hegelian philosophy, and was applied to economic history of humankind is also right. But I don't think his prophecy about socialism and communism were right. After all, his anti-theses to 19th century capitalism produced a totally different synthesis of capitalism. But nearly all of the modern day left embraces an anti-thesis that became obsolete nearly 150 years ago (the classic understanding of socialism under Das Kapital) instead of trying to construct a brand new anti-thesis for the modern status-quo.
Even in your video, quotes of The Boss and Naked Snake clearly states that they don't think neither capitalism nor communism is right, they are neither with USA nor with USSR. I'm not sure this is Kojima trying to be USA friendly, I think this is his genuine and sincere feelings towards capitalism and communism. Being a critic of capitalism does not automatically make you a socialist/communist, and being a critic of communism does not automatically make you a capitalist. And similarly, admiring a socialist leader does not automatically make you a socialist and vice versa. This black & white understanding of capitalism & communism is an ancient relic of the Cold War era, fueled by McCarthyism, the Red Scare, the Iron Curtain, the travel bans, NATO and the Warsaw Pact etc. etc. In reality, there are many shades of grey inbetween, and statistics (and even the dialectic method itself) suggests that the truth lies in one of those shades, not in one of the extremes.
sick video my dude!
All that's needed for stupid people to complain about games being political tho, are the most futile things, i.e. a female protagonist
Its because the discussion of video games is all too often focused on culture war nonsense rather than any substace.
thank you for making this video
Why are people against politics in games and films. What is MGS without politics? MgS needs poltics
Same with Star Wars the OT was based on Vietnam!
Rebels=Viet Cong
Empire=American Empire
Palpatine=Nixon.
Snatcher had quite a bit of underlying political commentary.
For anyone that hasn't played it yet and is watching this video, Death Stranding is even more socialist than the Metal Gear games. There's no currency whatsoever! As far as I know, characters never bring up currency at all even from before the Death Stranding happened. The distribution centers use chiral printers (basically 3D printers) to make things that they need, but anything that cannot be replicated like organs and blood has to be transported by porters. It's kind of thankless (you don't get paid for your work), but it's one of the only jobs that they haven't been able to automate well enough to do without humans. They're the only ones that can deliver things in pristine condition. Despite the lack of pay, they are treated quite well. They get their own private rooms at every city, and are generally respected by everyone. Some people will even let porters stay the night at their personal shelters. To top it all off, the game was partially made as a critique of Trump and Brexit. Good stuff!
I'm tripping hard and started thinking about how MGS is deffo socialist propaganda. Thank God I found this video. You will definitely make waves in the breadtube sphere in the future. Much love comrade! 💝✊
📕🚩 Che Guevara 📕🚩
Awesome video 10/10
Damn, beautiful video
Thanks a lot 👊🏻
@@TheKavernacle 👊
socialism is not evil!
Omg, I had no fucking idea! Whole new respect for Hideo Kojima
The socialist constructs in the Metal Gear games always end up breaking.
Outer Heaven
Liquids Uprising
Diamond Dogs
They all fail in the end.
Well put. I feel however that you message will fall on deaf ears. Most if not all of these people on this channel are socialist/comunist lemmings.
They fail due to outside influences conspiring against them.
"Blame the Nazi Germans for making me become a gun designer … I always wanted to construct agriculture machinery."
-Mikhail Kalashnikov, inventor of the AK-47
The Sandistas failed, because Reagan armed the drug dealing Contras with weapons, Pinochet threw alleged communist out of helicopters in Chile, Argentinian Death Squad prowled the jungles and mountains killing anyone they thought was socialist.
You also discount China, Cuba, Vietnam, and other countries that are currently socialist, and social democracy throughout Europe that fare very well.
D C China, Cuba and Vietnam "faring well"? LOL. Not the best examples
@@dieschattenzeit IDK, Cuba has the best doctors, Vietnam is one of the fastest growing economies and China will soon take the place of America as a world power.
@@TheDizzieC my dude, Cuba controls it's media like a freakimg monster. After all the socialist situation, many cubans went to countries like Brazil to run away from this and no, they were not rich or something like that. I am from Brazil and I know the cuban medicine situation because i was in fromt of it, the perfect cuban medicine is a fucking lie.
Bro, you just made me reinstall MGSV.
Seriously?
Disregard my deleted comment Kav, I was mistaken lol
great video
You know Big Boss is the villain right?
Ocelot is the literal villain of nearly every MGS game and then it turns out he actually is not... MGS does not have binary good vs evil
@@TheKavernacle Ocelot never did anything as bad as Big Boss did.
@@cookieface80 He created literal global proxy wars in MGS4 lol
@@TheKavernacle Uh no? That was created by JD, the AI that replaced GW.
@@cookieface80big boss is so much more than a villain or hero downplaying a character to such a black and white scale is a insult to kojima’s writing skills and story telling as a whole
Being against Guantanamo bay doesn't make you a leftist.
You can have conservative views and not approve of torture and human rights violations.
Kojima has many messages in his games, political ones too. But they aren't shoved down your throat, they're subtle more or less.
ok buddy, def didn't even try to pretend u at least skimmed through the video
A videogame written to appeal to conservative ideology would suck so much lol
Imagine if MGS was written by the right.
"Snake, everyone was happier during Jim Crow!"
I hope Kojima never read about "El Che's" Congo excursion.
I don't doubt that he already did. Must've made him admire the man even more. Instead of settling down as some kind of celebrity, Che went out of his way to oppose imperialism elsewhere. He didn't have to, but he went anyway. He failed but he kept trying. He died because of that but the spirit of revolution persisted through his example.
@@friedlemons5201 Che Guevera's congo days were an embarrasing mess that made him look like an imperalist to the Africans.
@@JohnCena-ew1mf So you speak for the Congolese now? When did "the Africans" call Che fucking Guevara an imperialist?
@@friedlemons5201 No I'm just quoting Laurent Kabila who just saw Che Guevera as another arrrogant white guy with soldiers interfering with his home. Meanwhile El Che only brought his own mercs to the congo because he thought black people were too stupid to know how to use guns 🤷♂️
@@JohnCena-ew1mf Soo... are you gonna cite any credible sources for those claims? Kabila literally worked with him. Surely he wasn't forced to cooperate with an imperialist white man such as Che, no? *gasp* what if Kabila was an imperialist too? The Cuban "mercs" Che brought with him were mostly black yet Che had no problems with them. maybe, just maybe, Che's judgement of the military experience of the Congolese didn't have anything to do with the color of their skin? crazy right?
Of course I don't actually expect you to comprehend any of this so to hell with it all. Let's just uncritically absorb every denunciation of this man and call ourselves masters of reason. With enough pedantry and lies, the world will be a better place
Im still early in the video, but The Boss is not a socialist. She wanted to create an oligarchical deep state, run by the wealthiest people, and not a Republic run by Working and Peasant Class ideological leaders under the direction of the Working Class masses. Also, she didnt advocate for the self determinism of nations to build Proletariat power, but instead planned to actively circumnavigate the autonomy of countries, which paired with Capitalism, becomes Imperialism(as we see later in universe with the other games) another contradiction of Socialism and Communism. The goal of Socialism is a classless society, but the boss did not have a class based analysis of the global disparity between the Ownership Class and the Masses or any other Marxist leanings. Wanting a one world government run by rich people is anti-Socialist as fuck. Not to mention, the so called competiton from the Socialist Bloc was not some game of tryng to win power, it was a struggle to defeat Imperialism and White Supremacy, and end the Material suffering and exploitation inherent within Capitalism, to create a classless society which ends the need for states as we know them(not Nations, but States they are distinct)because the Historical Function of the State is to uphold the interests of one class over another, with Worker's States being new experiments against Super-Structural and Base Forces created by 100s of years of Class Disparity under a Ruling Class State. The West actively sought to undermine global liberation using Imperialism, Espionage, White Supremacy, Misogyny, Nuclear threats, War, Proxy War, Economic Sanctions, and Privatization of the resources in 3rd World Nations, The USSR and the other socialist countries tried to stop that.... So using her as a representation of Kojima's socialism fall apart under scrutiny.
Hasta siempre comandante Ernesto Che Guevara,..metal gear snake eater was the beginning for me, it opened my eyes to the world and I will never look at the world the same way again, it is painful to see I will admit but it is better than the living an illusion. Long live commander Che, your legacy lives on in those of us who want better world for all and thank you Hideo Kojima for your work , you have awoken many
Aquí en Latinoamérica y cuba viven en la pobreza y miseria por culpa de el. Venezuela y Argentina están destrozados por el socialismo. Odio a los de primer mundo que nacieron en la comodidad del capitalismo desear dictaduras de izquierdas.
@@luigiromanor8633En realidad no. Vivimos en la pobreza porque quisimos ir al socialismo pero Estados Unidos mandó a hacer golpes de estado para pararnos. Sos idiota me parece, se te olvida, que todo el siglo 20 latinoamerica fue governada por fascistas capitalistas fundados por Estados Unidos.
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Yes... has to be his politics because reasons.
Weird... snake always got paid for his missions, found things to sell, weird for being against capitolism.
If you don’t think a game that’s is all about being anti-nuclear weapons made by a guy who comes from the only country to be nuked then you are just a dumbass
Regardless of it being right or wrong, he clearly stated why he believed that. Claiming his statement is based off of “reasons” makes you sound childish.
Also, if you think getting payed for labor and buying/selling material goods is some how exclusive to “capitolism”, you’re an idiot. So that makes you a childish idiot. Or idiotic child. Take your pick. Congrats.
@@FriskyDingo36 I told you what I see factually.. and it wasn't beyond you to come and attempt to correct my facts with your beliefs.
The fact of the matter is, if your trading capitol; a commodity used for trade purposes where you agree on set values of said commodity, than that is pure unadulterated capitolism.
Not, "I'm gonna take this stuff and distribute it to what I feel is fair."
I don't care about how he feels because it isn't factual.
The nuke thing makes sense though.
markets are not exclusive to capitalism, a bit of history might help ya
@@Solid--Snake no. not capitolism.. military industrial complex.. that was the point. He preached against proxy wars. And government involvement in things they had no business in. The colossal power wielded against the people and the eternal struggle against the next bigger unfathimable power. All it can do is threaten, intimidate, and destroy.
Where capitolism can build, enrichen, and rehabilitate. It cannot destroy threaten, or persecute. It has one master. That is culture.
Odd how people can idolize serial killers, especially those who had killed based on what today we consider “protected classes”.
How was he a serial killer?
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Cubans ran to America when Castro took over.
A minority of rich ones did yeah...
@@TheKavernacle many cubans went to Brazil too, not rich ones, been honest.
@@fernandesjp_ um brasileiro por aqui! Que estranho kkkk
Ah yes the good old Gusanos
Good video but your foreign policy is crap especially with Syria and the Middle East.
Thanks and no it’s not
@Mockracy would be nice to know what was called bad specifically, instead of just getting to know your feelings.
And what’s wrong with socialism works great in Norway ,Sweden Holland ect capitalism is unsustainable
All those countries you mentioned are small in population with no influx of imagination.
Its sad that che was so mistaken, he even compared the u.s. imperialism with nazi Germany. He had noble intents, but was fighting for the wrong cause. I really don't understand how socialism, a system where the state "redistributes" wealth so bad it makes everyone poor in every country it touches, its better than capitalism. Like it or not, without nuclear deterrence we still have constant wars. I believe the root of the problem to be extreme nationalism or patriotism, we are all humans. I don't understand how can people say Cuba its a paradise when people living there can't stand it.
US imperialism is like Nazi Germany in some ways - Vietnam and MKUltra for two examples bro
And you might want to look into what Cuba was like before the communists. Now everyone has healthcare, food and somewhere to live. One of the best medical systems in terms of advancements in the field - maybe look into it and don’t read western propaganda
@@TheKavernacle I know I am very late to the party with this and that it doesn't relate to your incredibly interesting video...but fucking THANK YOU.
Nothing about socialism necessitates the state redistributing wealth. Socialism exists on a spectrum, from the authoritarian side all the way to the anarchist/libertarian side (stateless). Read up on libertarian socialism on Wikipedia. It's a good starting point for further reading.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
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