Bladewolf has to be my favourite. He goes under the same journey of finding his own identity and discovering true freedom like Raiden in MGS2. Forced to be a killer despite being kinda bad at it because he lacks the killer instinct humans can have is something I hardly see. Usually, machines are portayed as more efficient killers because of a lack of morality, but never as less efficient killers because of their commitment to logic. And despite Raiden's... very mixed views of A.I.s (and for good reason if you've played MGS2) he chooses to help Bladewolf by freeing him of his range inhibitor and memory wipe, his digital shackles, if you will. After that, Bladewolf chooses to help Raiden. It's HIS choice. And as he learns from him, he overrides his own directives. He literally states he's gone through character development! You could say he's His Own Master Now! He even almost quotes Raiden word for word from MGS4! Vamp: "You too... immortal?" Raiden: "No... I just don't fear death." Armstrong: "Make no mistake, Fido. When I'm finished with him... you're next." Bladewolf: "I was not designed to fear termination." Also he's a robot wolf with a chainsaw, making him the coolest thing in the game. Come on, people! **TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIIIIIIIIND!**
Wash away the anger Here I stand beneath The warm and soothing rain The droplets falling Gently down on the terrain Wash away the sorrow All the stains of time But there's no memory It's only dry inside In the mud and sinking deeper Into a peaceful life And it will come Like a flood of pain Pouring down on me And it will not let up Until the end is here And it will come Through the darkest day In my final hour And it will never rest Until the clouds are clear Until it finds my dreams have disappeared
@@kenlee4356 I was watching my wife try to fight Monsoon repeatedly. I kept telling her to just Google the fight to find the solution to beating him. She refused until finally caving in hours later, lol. Chaff grenades. **facepalm**
I LOVE that you approach the topic of memes and selfish genes. I am studying International Relations, just as you have and am trying to find a theory of memetic reproduction for this field of study. I guess it would be something poststructuralist or liberal theory since it also has to do with institutions and ideas (so maybe international law would be a good case study itself) but I am not too sure. Let me know if you have any idea for a good starting point.
Monsoon < 3 (I do have to replay the game as a more fledged adult to re-take in the themes tho) Also this fight forced me to learn the mechanics of the game bc before then I was just going by button mashing and no care to the evade/guard system. Also Monsoon talks about memes in the way the word originally meant while the internet was altering the meaning.
People have debated over what side of the political spectrum Armstrong represents, but honestly, I think it's pretty clear that he's a far righter to the core, what with his incredibly privileged notion that unfettered competition will actually somehow be a good thing and his general lack of empathy for the weak or those who don't have martial/physical strength.
Yeah he’s basically an American fascist - but I think the game was going for this because of it criticising the American War on Terror and how fascistic the Bush govt was
@@MrGksarathy I'm not surprised that some folks like Armstrong unironically. He's basically the personification of alpha male/toxic masculinity, and might makes right. It's the same destructively cancerous idealogy that Putin espouses.
@@MrGksarathy it’s the exact same reason why simpletons like Trump. They think he’s some sort of “real talking” populist standing up for the little guy.
@@arcturionblade1077 Yup, and I think they're also the same people who unironically support Funny Valentine from JoJo Part 7, who is near identical to Armstrong but for the exact details of his plans.
The man doing Armstrong in the dub is Gianni Matragrano. He is a VA who does a lot of memes on RUclips, including the one about Armstrong ranting about millennial leftists.
During last week's stream I said I'd give MGR another shot and try to finish it before this video. Now we're here, and I've already beaten it twice... Game's fuckin awesome
Favorite MGR chracacter: Senator Armstrong REASON: NANOMACHINES, SON!! Favorite MGR song: It Has To Be This Way REASON: STANDING HERE, I REALIZE YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME, TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY Armstrong is a character that you can both love and hate for the same reason. He only appears at the final chapter and hey IMO he stole the show by being such an over-the-top bureaucrat. His speech is the literal definition of American Exceptionalism. Funny how Armstrong somehow foreshadows Donald Trump, or maybe it's just a coincidence
Favorite character: Sundowner, the unapologetic sociopath "Like I said Jack, kids are cruel, and I'm very in touch with my inner child." (Or "...and I love minors.") Favorite song: Collective Consciousness, A song that covers how right wingers want everyone to follow their ideology without questions or self-consciousness.
Another great thing about MGR:R soundtrack is that lyrics of songs describe the characters in a way f.ex Sam losing his own agenda and becoming a tool of war, Khamsin being a soldier blindly following orders and even losing his moral compass as a mercenary ("Without a compass, The soldier knows no disgrace")etc.
Favourite character? Probably Sam. There was a simplicity juxtaposed with complexity to his character. Almost as though he saw Raiden as the epitome of his core ideals, ones that he had suppressed in service of Armstrong’s might is right (due to having lost), but then really pushing and challenging Raiden to see if those ideals could prevail, even if it meant Sam’s own death. Additionally, the soundtrack for him, The Only Thing I Know For Real, is very fitting. I think this game had an excellent, heavy and catchy soundtrack on the whole, even if a bit lyrically cheesy at certain points. Favourite track would have to be Red Sun. Game is also awesome. Over the top hack’n’slash mayhem but with a great plot and narrative. Very overtly critical of the things being targeted.
I loved that you used that clip! The entire Max0r video is is truly full of political memes, and yes Gianni did GREAT voice acting this Senator Armstrong.
This video didn’t get many views but I really enjoyed it! I’m interested in the series but only only played MGS back when it was released, so I’ve learned about the series, Kojima, and the discourse through your videos.
Max0r freaking killed it in his 2 part An Incorrect Summary of Metal Gear Rising Revengeance. A hilarious certified hood classic. Another cool thing is that you can piece together that Max0r is pretty based and left wing politically through the editing and specific jokes he makes, particularly about American imperialism, all filtered through ADHD style editing and edgy Gen Z humor.
my personal favorite character and song would be Khamsin and his theme, The Hot Wind Blowing. I think he acts a good foil to Bladewolf, as he is capable of free will but actively rejects it whereas bladewolf has no free will but strives for it throughout the game and the DLCs.
Thank you so much for making this video! This has been my favorite video game since 2013 and its literally the reason I've become a leftist! "The only thing I know for real" is my favorite theme because it reflects my own apathy for politics before 2016 leading up to the election and realizing how important politics really are.
I feel like Sundowner is my favourite character out of this game not because he's the coolest but who I like most as a villain. The others are either victims of circumstances or seeking to improve something in the world and yet here we have a sociopathic war monger who embodies what the American war machine looks like. He uses symbols of war and revolution (the samurai/Japanese aesthetic and machete blades) but is only concerned with the killing. He doesn't care what war will bring but the sadistic pleasure he'll have. Sundowner is an irredeemable villain and I enjoy beating him down
Senator Armstrong For starters Kohima literally predicted Trump, and represented the political class to a t. He is the most outlandish and quotable metal gear character even compared to snake. His boss fight is the most dynamic of the metal gear franchise, he pushed raiden to his breaking point.
Great video! My favorite characters are Blade Wolf and Sunny. Blade Wolf has a lot of character development, especially in his DLC. He just wants to be free and not live like a caged dog for Desperado. Sunny is cool because she went from a kid that had never touched grass and only lived in Patriots facilities or with Snake and Otacon and becomes a brilliant scientist and makes rockets for the MGS universe equivalent of SpaceX. She is like Elon Musk if he didn't suck My favorite song is Mistral's one "A Stranger I Remain" because it provides more subtext for her characters than the others. She is Merasult from The Stranger if he got Cyborg Hecatonchires Arms instead of being executed
If we're talking from a game design standpoint I love Mistral so much. The cold wind of france being beaten and frozen solid is such an eat touch and her abilities are some of the more unique ones in the game. Her background being similar to Raiden yet a completely different outcome makes a really neat fight. From a personality standpoint? Sam. A good guy turned bad and yet still not FULLY on board with everything, not using cheap tactics or trying to overwhelm you. He just wants to have an honorable duel and get it over with. As for song, Hot Wind is Blowing cause of how well it personifies Khamsin.
Sundowner had the coolest weapon in the game hands down! Anyways I'm glad for this game's resurgence. Platinum was in their peak era: Bayo, Vanquish. Hell they still are with Astral Chain and NiER Automata
I never played it cus... 1... I wanted the whole sneaky soldier boy experience. In my opinion metal gear has done that type of video game better than any other title. I didn't want a ninja gaiden god of war dantes inferno bayonetta dark siders devil may cry god of war 1-3 clone. 2... What kav was just talking about in the start of this video. The more interesting version never happened. LAYME! Same crap happened with metal gear 5. Konami didn't let Kojima do his version completely SMH! But looking back. Game seems aright I'll check it out one day especially since it's old now and can prolly be found for like 10-20 bucks : )
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 play it. It isn’t a copy but an original combat system. The game is literally BAT SHIT INSANE and goes back to the fundamental comedy with the older games but also being serious when it wants to. I’m telling you, this shit won’t dissatisfy you in any damn way. The plot and characters are exquisite.
Yo, the algorithm made it damn hard to find this video, it didn’t appear on my sub box, it didn’t show on your videos tab in your channel for me for a while too.
My favorite character has got to be Blade Wolf. There's so many interesting conversations you can have with him, and he subverts a lot of typical AI character tropes in really fun and interesting ways
My favorite MGR character, surprise no surprise, is Samuel Rodriguez. I love the way he fights, and how he plays in-game in his DLC chapter. Would that I could fight like that. Favorite song would probably have to be Rules of Nature or The Only Thing I Know for Real.
I absolutely love Metal Gear Rising 😍. Never played any of the other metal gear solid games but this one is special, the combat, the story, the music everything is the best it's ever been.
I loved this vid, and I only watched it because you mentioned it in the one you uploaded today. I guess the algorithm just didn't pick it up for some reason.
I really like the How Metal Gear Rising video, if I had to guess why it didn't do well, was because the intro was too long might have made some people think that was gonna be the whole video maybe you could reupload this with the intro being shorter
Glad you liked the vid! And Thanks for the advice but based on the analytics it seems to be just the click through rate - which is low - meaning that people shown it in their suggestions didn’t click either based on thumbnail/title etc. the average watch time is higher on this than others!
As I understand it that "fox engine" one didn't actually work outside that demo you show. The system doesn't lend itself to melee combat well, if I recall, so that literally wouldn't have worked.
Moonson is my favorite character because his theme kicks ass and he’s the one who explicitly talks about MEME. His design and fight is also way too ridiculous.
Still love using the Codec just to hear a conversation about the Occupy Movement during a boss fight against a giant robot. Wasn't expecting that and was happily surprised!
As a someone who's not a fan of metal gear as a whole And at most a casual one of mgr, Rising's advantages over the rest of the series is that it's *blunt* with it's message, and that it's themes are unfortunately still relevant to now.
Metal Gear, at least until Snake Eater, is as blunt as you can get with the way it shows it's message, to the point of being a bit preachy. Mgs2 has been like the one that has prevaled as being even more relevant that when it came out, kinda the same way as mgr
MGR being super blunt and over the top is probably a result of the game being made by an American video game development team instead of a Japanese one like the rest of the Metal Gear Solid games (oh, don't get me wrong, the MGS games are still over dramatic and over the top thanks to Hideo Kojima but the Japanese tend to like some subtlety and mystery in their games but there's nothing subtle about MGR).
I still haven't played MGR, largely because when it came out I figured it would be a shallow offshoot, and by the time I heard it wasn't, I just lacked the time. As such I'll just say my favorite MGS character. The Boss. She's a horribly flawed character that had the proper ideals IMO even if she didn't practice them due to some silly code of honor that she felt she had to pay a penance for by betraying her ideals in the hope that would somehow make them realized.
The Anarchist-Communist Peter Kropotkin had similar views of his naturalist studies, that altruism developed biologically from evolutionary self-preservation. Darwin witnessed that adaptation was key, and Kropotkin saw Mutual Aid as intrinsic to evolutionary survival. The individual ins stronger and more secure within community that provides for individuals and protect each other.
The original MGS was about genes being selfish, I don't think they got the original concept right but it's curious how much Richard Dawkins comes up (the author of The Selfish Gene, a book much better than its author.)
I don't like making this "Dawkins meme" distinction, because "Internet memes" are just memes that propagate through social media posts. They are so diverse there is no other consistent definition. It's all the same thing, small pieces of culture that can be spread via communication and mutated by human intention or misfiring cognitive processes. If anyone enjoys SCP Foundation, thinking about "memetics" (also see the _Understanding Memetics_ essay) can be helpful in getting rid of the mental stigma. It's not like the meme concept is uniquely shackled to the selfish gene theory either, for example a few years later sci-fi author Philip K. Dick independently derived basically the same concept through a theosophical route in his schizobiographical novel VALIS just using a different term.
Red Sun is a serious close second for me, but my favorite is Collective Consciousness. Specifically this mix of it ruclips.net/video/RK2r9Tc1m6E/видео.html I love the lyrics, they're so, like, satisfying? Like it's just a great theme for a villain, and in terms of just the song overall it rips HARD
so I believe that that shining City On a Hill quote from both Reagan and Obama is actually a really culturally resonate quote here in the US and if my memory of grade school serves me well, then it originated from some of the first European people to come and colonize the US, they came mostly (obviously) because of religious persecution, so for some reason the quote feels like it came from some big name protestant way way back in the day, and for some reason it also seems like something the founder of mormonism repeated a number of times, but yeah that's very literally the way a large number of us Americans see our country, Id say its a primarily right wing, American traditionalists way of looking at things, but ofc, Obama and many liberals see the US State the same way...
I fucking love that game, easily one of the best Platinum productions and one of the best action games of it’s time. While I did uses the code quite frequently, even if you don’t use it that much it’s very blatant with it’s messaging. Armstrong practically beats you over the head with it. Favorite character… Mistral. A giant redhead that loves to fight/kill but also still was searching for a deeper purpose. What’s not to love.
Didn’t mistral find her purpose? For example, “and then I met him, his ideals gave my life meaning. Ideals jack, what are yours?”. The first part of the sentence literally clarified she found Armstrong and inherited his memes (Richard Dawkins version lol).
The next game coming back for it's political messaging is we happy few. It's not very memeable, but people keep reanimating it because it's aesthetic and message fit the moment well, but it's one of those games that only really gets good after the game "ends". It is 100% the more accessible version of pathologic, so if you (like me) watched hbomberguy's vid on pathologic but just couldn't get into the game, play we happy few. Then try to start playing pathologic 2 30 more times (like me).
Favorite MGR chracacter: I think I will say Raiden because of how he see war and how it's harm childern. Favorite song: Collective Consciousness. that song is very leftist in it's lyrics.
Oh god, Metal Gear, while the gameplay is great, the story is dumb as hell and massively overrated. This is a story where a guy gets his hand cut off, has a replacement grafted on and the personality of this grafted hand takes over his body. Except it doesn't, because he just hypnotised himself into thinking that it did. I'm sorry, but that's soap opera level writing and is some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
Tell me, if this story is so dumb, why the hell it managed to actually explore control if information through memes back in 2001, openly talk about history of American imperialism and have actual exploration of how soldiers affected by conflicts? The thing so called realistic stories try to avoid or hide in 20 layers of subtext that original meaning is lost.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 I hate to break it to you, pal, but everyone outside of America (and videogames) has been talking about that stuff for decades. It didn't get released in 2001, Revengeance (god, even the name is dumb) was released in 2013, when American Imperialism was balls deep in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not exactly prescient to be talking about things that were currently happening, unless for some reason you think memes didn't exist back then.
Armstrong is my favorite for so many reasons. From his absurd yet realistic goal to his prediction of Donald Trump to his many amazing quotes, perhaps my favorite being "DONT FUCK WITH THIS SENATOR" as he punts Raiden, followed by a cheering crowd. As for favorite song, It Has to Be This Way goes so well with the Armstrong battle. I also love his enthusiasm trying to get Raiden to side with him his expressions are hilarious. And yes I'm putting that quote above "NANOMACHINES, son!"
I honestly think it's just a simpler thing than that. One streamer tried this older game that they had previously skipped, found it's actually rather fun, and then a bunch of other streamers who had also skipped it jumped on the bandwagon and are finding that, yeah, it's a fairly solid title. And over the top as shit. Yes, the politics are worth discussing, but the new popularity of the game is not because of that, I don't think.
No, it’s exactly because of it. The popular memes of the game and the shitposts of the fan base as well as the very delightful streamers losing their fucking marbles over this games batshit insane stuff. You can see that the game has a growing audience till today with the example of many vod channels having metal gear rising streams as their top video. I literally can’t get out of the fandom. So no, this wasn’t temporary popularity unlike many games today. But a growing seed that just grows continuously until there’s a sequel (that won’t happen :( ).
@@feister2869 No, no, I didn't mean to imply it's temporary. Just that a streamer randomly decided to do this title they skipped, loved it, others decided to jump on the bandwagon, and also love it. I don't mean bandwagon to say it's a temporary craze. They are legit enjoying the title, and will continue to do so, and are embracing and expanding upon the fandom.
@@feister2869 I didn't mean it as something that was specified. I mean, I'm sure if one looked at all the streamers, looked at who they follow (not even watch, just follow), and go back far enough, you'd find the alpha streamer (and this being the internet, there's a fair chance they do in fact think of themselves as an alpha) who started it all, plus I grant that it may simply go back to the original release and occasional streamers just picking it up over time, skipping it but being interested, and on and on, and yes, it's pure speculation, but this is how most of these games get popularity. Streamers copying each other, either just for the views, or because of genuine interest. And face it, the game knows how to garner interest.
Unfortunately for the "codec" conversations, they want you to check it after nearly every damn sentence sometimes, and my fucking gods, does that shit become tedious and annoying. To get the context, I have to listen to five ten minutes conversations about fucking movies? All between actual gameplay moments that would amount to about five minute's worth of playtime. I stopped trying to catch them all have way through level 2.
Bladewolf has to be my favourite. He goes under the same journey of finding his own identity and discovering true freedom like Raiden in MGS2.
Forced to be a killer despite being kinda bad at it because he lacks the killer instinct humans can have is something I hardly see. Usually, machines are portayed as more efficient killers because of a lack of morality, but never as less efficient killers because of their commitment to logic.
And despite Raiden's... very mixed views of A.I.s (and for good reason if you've played MGS2) he chooses to help Bladewolf by freeing him of his range inhibitor and memory wipe, his digital shackles, if you will.
After that, Bladewolf chooses to help Raiden. It's HIS choice. And as he learns from him, he overrides his own directives. He literally states he's gone through character development! You could say he's His Own Master Now! He even almost quotes Raiden word for word from MGS4!
Vamp: "You too... immortal?"
Raiden: "No... I just don't fear death."
Armstrong: "Make no mistake, Fido. When I'm finished with him... you're next."
Bladewolf: "I was not designed to fear termination."
Also he's a robot wolf with a chainsaw, making him the coolest thing in the game. Come on, people!
**TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIIIIIIIIND!**
YEAAA BITCHHH!!! Oh sorry I got some 2013 tingles from this comment.
Heeeeeey, the Kavster pinned me! I feel accomplished! ^_^
Armstrong's most evil act is kicking poor Bladewolf.
@@Khilkhameth YOU DON'T KICK THE DOGGO
“American imperialism is absolutely justified because we had a black president once” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The next line is the best part.
"Before I fucking killed him"
“That’s a nice argument senator. Why don’t you back it up with a source?”
@@williamwallace5615 "My source is that I made it the fuck up"
We also partially ended slavery in our country!! That buys us some other crimes against humanity.
Hopefully you've watched that entire dub, that isn't even the funniest thing that happens in it
The virign "keep politics out of videogames" gamer vs the average Metal Gear Rising Revengeance enjoyer
Or just Metal Gear Solid series in general enjoyer since the entire series is political
Okay but revengence took all the stealth tho
Because yall weirdos want weird ass identity politics and forced diversity, metal gear is genuinely good with its politics
Wash away the anger
Here I stand beneath
The warm and soothing rain
The droplets falling
Gently down on the terrain
Wash away the sorrow
All the stains of time
But there's no memory
It's only dry inside
In the mud and sinking deeper
Into a peaceful life
And it will come
Like a flood of pain
Pouring down on me
And it will not let up
Until the end is here
And it will come
Through the darkest day
In my final hour
And it will never rest
Until the clouds are clear
Until it finds my dreams have disappeared
That fight is the one I remember the most because my oldest brother went into the fight w/o rations and spent hours on the fight
@@kenlee4356 I was watching my wife try to fight Monsoon repeatedly. I kept telling her to just Google the fight to find the solution to beating him. She refused until finally caving in hours later, lol. Chaff grenades. **facepalm**
I LOVE that you approach the topic of memes and selfish genes. I am studying International Relations, just as you have and am trying to find a theory of memetic reproduction for this field of study. I guess it would be something poststructuralist or liberal theory since it also has to do with institutions and ideas (so maybe international law would be a good case study itself) but I am not too sure. Let me know if you have any idea for a good starting point.
This and the Mistral theme are absolute bangers.
Monsoon < 3
(I do have to replay the game as a more fledged adult to re-take in the themes tho)
Also this fight forced me to learn the mechanics of the game bc before then I was just going by button mashing and no care to the evade/guard system.
Also Monsoon talks about memes in the way the word originally meant while the internet was altering the meaning.
I hate when games push their politics down my throat...
Oh wait, I don't think anyone in this was LGBT, so this has no politics in it.
My favorite part of Revengeance's villains is thay they all have distinct ideologies that Raiden must refute as well as beating them.
What? How did he refute any of them? Can you give examples?
@@feister2869 he refuted them with his sword.
@@feister2869U BATSHIT INSANE (RATIOED!)
@@feister2869 Debate Stalin style : No man, no debate.
People have debated over what side of the political spectrum Armstrong represents, but honestly, I think it's pretty clear that he's a far righter to the core, what with his incredibly privileged notion that unfettered competition will actually somehow be a good thing and his general lack of empathy for the weak or those who don't have martial/physical strength.
Yeah he’s basically an American fascist - but I think the game was going for this because of it criticising the American War on Terror and how fascistic the Bush govt was
@@TheKavernacle Of course, yet despite that, he has quite the misaimed fandom. Actually, a lot of characters like him have such fandoms online...
@@MrGksarathy I'm not surprised that some folks like Armstrong unironically. He's basically the personification of alpha male/toxic masculinity, and might makes right. It's the same destructively cancerous idealogy that Putin espouses.
@@MrGksarathy it’s the exact same reason why simpletons like Trump. They think he’s some sort of “real talking” populist standing up for the little guy.
@@arcturionblade1077 Yup, and I think they're also the same people who unironically support Funny Valentine from JoJo Part 7, who is near identical to Armstrong but for the exact details of his plans.
the moment with Armstrong is the great meme of *Make America Great Again* it's hilarious.
The over the top machismo and corny one liners from the villainous Senator Armstrong, **chef's kiss**
Wait, so that line "Make America great again" was in the original PS3 game from 2013? Three years before Trump started using it as a slogan?
@@BdR76 yep
Senator Armstrong predicted Trump
@@randycheow4268 more like trump marketeers saw the caricature and thought it was really a good look, and it worked
The man doing Armstrong in the dub is Gianni Matragrano. He is a VA who does a lot of memes on RUclips, including the one about Armstrong ranting about millennial leftists.
For the meme versions yes, but in the actual game it’s Alastair Duncan voicing Armstrong.
“Nanomachines son”
During last week's stream I said I'd give MGR another shot and try to finish it before this video. Now we're here, and I've already beaten it twice...
Game's fuckin awesome
Favorite MGR chracacter: Senator Armstrong
REASON: NANOMACHINES, SON!!
Favorite MGR song: It Has To Be This Way
REASON: STANDING HERE, I REALIZE YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME, TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
Armstrong is a character that you can both love and hate for the same reason. He only appears at the final chapter and hey IMO he stole the show by being such an over-the-top bureaucrat. His speech is the literal definition of American Exceptionalism. Funny how Armstrong somehow foreshadows Donald Trump, or maybe it's just a coincidence
And it also caused someone I know to be a Trump supporter because he's like Senator Armstrong.
Favorite character: Sundowner, the unapologetic sociopath "Like I said Jack, kids are cruel, and I'm very in touch with my inner child." (Or "...and I love minors.")
Favorite song: Collective Consciousness, A song that covers how right wingers want everyone to follow their ideology without questions or self-consciousness.
Another great thing about MGR:R soundtrack is that lyrics of songs describe the characters in a way f.ex Sam losing his own agenda and becoming a tool of war, Khamsin being a soldier blindly following orders and even losing his moral compass as a mercenary ("Without a compass, The soldier knows no disgrace")etc.
Yup, every song is a wonderful image song for the boss. Even Rules of Nature is one for the Metal Gear RAY.
Favourite character? Probably Sam. There was a simplicity juxtaposed with complexity to his character. Almost as though he saw Raiden as the epitome of his core ideals, ones that he had suppressed in service of Armstrong’s might is right (due to having lost), but then really pushing and challenging Raiden to see if those ideals could prevail, even if it meant Sam’s own death. Additionally, the soundtrack for him, The Only Thing I Know For Real, is very fitting.
I think this game had an excellent, heavy and catchy soundtrack on the whole, even if a bit lyrically cheesy at certain points. Favourite track would have to be Red Sun.
Game is also awesome. Over the top hack’n’slash mayhem but with a great plot and narrative. Very overtly critical of the things being targeted.
I loved that you used that clip! The entire Max0r video is is truly full of political memes, and yes Gianni did GREAT voice acting this Senator Armstrong.
I love how close Gianni Matragano's voice acting is to senator Armstrong's voice actor
This video didn’t get many views but I really enjoyed it! I’m interested in the series but only only played MGS back when it was released, so I’ve learned about the series, Kojima, and the discourse through your videos.
_"Making mother of all omelettes, Jack! Can't fret over egg!"_
Max0r freaking killed it in his 2 part An Incorrect Summary of Metal Gear Rising Revengeance. A hilarious certified hood classic.
Another cool thing is that you can piece together that Max0r is pretty based and left wing politically through the editing and specific jokes he makes, particularly about American imperialism, all filtered through ADHD style editing and edgy Gen Z humor.
Finally got my dad, a long time MGS and Kojima fan, to give this masterpiece a shot a few days ago. Needless to say he adores it
my personal favorite character and song would be Khamsin and his theme, The Hot Wind Blowing. I think he acts a good foil to Bladewolf, as he is capable of free will but actively rejects it whereas bladewolf has no free will but strives for it throughout the game and the DLCs.
Same, I was surprised how much I enjoyed him for a DLC villain
Thank you so much for making this video! This has been my favorite video game since 2013 and its literally the reason I've become a leftist! "The only thing I know for real" is my favorite theme because it reflects my own apathy for politics before 2016 leading up to the election and realizing how important politics really are.
I feel like Sundowner is my favourite character out of this game not because he's the coolest but who I like most as a villain.
The others are either victims of circumstances or seeking to improve something in the world and yet here we have a sociopathic war monger who embodies what the American war machine looks like. He uses symbols of war and revolution (the samurai/Japanese aesthetic and machete blades) but is only concerned with the killing. He doesn't care what war will bring but the sadistic pleasure he'll have. Sundowner is an irredeemable villain and I enjoy beating him down
How is mistral or fucking monsoon seeking to improve something XD
This game seems amazing. I'd love to see you cover more of it.
Senator Armstrong
For starters Kohima literally predicted Trump, and represented the political class to a t. He is the most outlandish and quotable metal gear character even compared to snake. His boss fight is the most dynamic of the metal gear franchise, he pushed raiden to his breaking point.
My favorite song is collective conciseness
you and @Jacob Geller really in sync on this one lol
Great video! My favorite characters are Blade Wolf and Sunny. Blade Wolf has a lot of character development, especially in his DLC. He just wants to be free and not live like a caged dog for Desperado. Sunny is cool because she went from a kid that had never touched grass and only lived in Patriots facilities or with Snake and Otacon and becomes a brilliant scientist and makes rockets for the MGS universe equivalent of SpaceX. She is like Elon Musk if he didn't suck
My favorite song is Mistral's one "A Stranger I Remain" because it provides more subtext for her characters than the others. She is Merasult from The Stranger if he got Cyborg Hecatonchires Arms instead of being executed
If we're talking from a game design standpoint I love Mistral so much. The cold wind of france being beaten and frozen solid is such an eat touch and her abilities are some of the more unique ones in the game. Her background being similar to Raiden yet a completely different outcome makes a really neat fight.
From a personality standpoint? Sam. A good guy turned bad and yet still not FULLY on board with everything, not using cheap tactics or trying to overwhelm you. He just wants to have an honorable duel and get it over with.
As for song, Hot Wind is Blowing cause of how well it personifies Khamsin.
gotta love A Stranger I Remain and Stains of TIme
Also, Monsoon: "Memes, Jack. The DNA of the soul!
IN THE END!
Sundowner, "Kids are cruel and I'm very in touch with my inner child"
Favorite song :" It has to be this way" and Jetstream Sam's theme
Sundowner had the coolest weapon in the game hands down! Anyways I'm glad for this game's resurgence. Platinum was in their peak era: Bayo, Vanquish. Hell they still are with Astral Chain and NiER Automata
Played the demo of Metal Gear Rising yesterday but I wanna play the actual game now
I never played it cus...
1... I wanted the whole sneaky soldier boy experience. In my opinion metal gear has done that type of video game better than any other title. I didn't want a ninja gaiden god of war dantes inferno bayonetta dark siders devil may cry god of war 1-3 clone.
2... What kav was just talking about in the start of this video. The more interesting version never happened. LAYME! Same crap happened with metal gear 5. Konami didn't let Kojima do his version completely SMH!
But looking back. Game seems aright I'll check it out one day especially since it's old now and can prolly be found for like 10-20 bucks : )
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 play it. It isn’t a copy but an original combat system. The game is literally BAT SHIT INSANE and goes back to the fundamental comedy with the older games but also being serious when it wants to. I’m telling you, this shit won’t dissatisfy you in any damn way. The plot and characters are exquisite.
Yo, the algorithm made it damn hard to find this video, it didn’t appear on my sub box, it didn’t show on your videos tab in your channel for me for a while too.
Seizing the memes of production I see 😂
Why does Armstrong look like former Navy SEAL/current podcast motivational bullshit artist Jocko Willink?
Man, why am I imagining Armstrong with a headphone arguing politics with joe rogan XD
Also Armstrong was actually a navy seal.
Source is Armstrong literally saying: “Try university of Texas, could’ve gone pro if I didn’t join the navy”.
@@feister2869 I'm aware Armstrong was a SEAL. I'm just saying his character design looks too much like Jocko Willink
@@feister2869 exactly the same image I had too
My favorite character has got to be Blade Wolf. There's so many interesting conversations you can have with him, and he subverts a lot of typical AI character tropes in really fun and interesting ways
I was never into those games but because I've been watching you, I will try them again!
My favorite MGR character, surprise no surprise, is Samuel Rodriguez. I love the way he fights, and how he plays in-game in his DLC chapter. Would that I could fight like that.
Favorite song would probably have to be Rules of Nature or The Only Thing I Know for Real.
“La Li Lu Le Lo”
I absolutely love Metal Gear Rising 😍. Never played any of the other metal gear solid games but this one is special, the combat, the story, the music everything is the best it's ever been.
"Do you even know what non-binary is?!"
"You know... Nanomachines!"
so you’re a man who pretends to be a woman???
you seriously need therapy dude
I loved this vid, and I only watched it because you mentioned it in the one you uploaded today. I guess the algorithm just didn't pick it up for some reason.
I love Armstrong he is an amazing villain for one game and standing here is my favourite song
I fking love this game. It's partly a spoof of MGS but also a spoof of the things MGS criticises.
I really like the How Metal Gear Rising video, if I had to guess why it didn't do well, was because the intro was too long might have made some people think that was gonna be the whole video maybe you could reupload this with the intro being shorter
Glad you liked the vid! And Thanks for the advice but based on the analytics it seems to be just the click through rate - which is low - meaning that people shown it in their suggestions didn’t click either based on thumbnail/title etc. the average watch time is higher on this than others!
@@TheKavernacle that makes sense thought the thumbnail might have played into it oh well
Commenting for the algorithm because I really hope more people watch this video, it was pure ~art~
As I understand it that "fox engine" one didn't actually work outside that demo you show. The system doesn't lend itself to melee combat well, if I recall, so that literally wouldn't have worked.
Thank you for the history/lore on The Sons of the Patriots (?) !! Sorry I’m not a gamer.
☮️💙🙏
Moonson is my favorite character because his theme kicks ass and he’s the one who explicitly talks about MEME.
His design and fight is also way too ridiculous.
There's literally an ENTIRE LEVEL where Raiden goes ACAB
"Free will is an myth, religion is a joke" Monsoon.
We’re all pawns controlled by something grater.
@@feister2869 Memes. The DNA of the soul.
Be funny if Raiden took his glasses off and all of the sudden he goes super blind and loses the fight simply because of that lol.
The Hot Wind Blows.
Still love using the Codec just to hear a conversation about the Occupy Movement during a boss fight against a giant robot. Wasn't expecting that and was happily surprised!
As a someone who's not a fan of metal gear as a whole And at most a casual one of mgr, Rising's advantages over the rest of the series is that it's *blunt* with it's message, and that it's themes are unfortunately still relevant to now.
Metal Gear, at least until Snake Eater, is as blunt as you can get with the way it shows it's message, to the point of being a bit preachy. Mgs2 has been like the one that has prevaled as being even more relevant that when it came out, kinda the same way as mgr
@@TheDiegorockz so maybe it's that mgr is short, and a lot of times funny, and the bad guys just say what they want.
And Armstrong is a lot like Trump
@@erdood3235 it's Trump that looks like Armstrong
MGR being super blunt and over the top is probably a result of the game being made by an American video game development team instead of a Japanese one like the rest of the Metal Gear Solid games (oh, don't get me wrong, the MGS games are still over dramatic and over the top thanks to Hideo Kojima but the Japanese tend to like some subtlety and mystery in their games but there's nothing subtle about MGR).
@@arcturionblade1077 platinum games is Japanese.
The game has a Japanese dub
Never played the game but I did listen to the soundtrack on repeat for weeks on end in 2013/2014.
You should very much play.
That was a clip from Max0rs ‘An Incorrect Summary of MGR: Revengence.’ His videos are really funny.
Okay but seriously red sun is absolute fire
I literally quoted the meme speech from Monsoon in a Religion and Philosophy course in University. I got an A in that class.lol
Did you say “religion is a joke”? Lmao
@@feister2869 Yes I did!lmao
@@Deadpool3E wtf.
Guess I'll finally play the game. It's on PC, I assume it supports gamepads.
It damn well does. Enjoy!
Really wanted to see the extra video but this video is surprisingly low views
I still haven't played MGR, largely because when it came out I figured it would be a shallow offshoot, and by the time I heard it wasn't, I just lacked the time. As such I'll just say my favorite MGS character.
The Boss. She's a horribly flawed character that had the proper ideals IMO even if she didn't practice them due to some silly code of honor that she felt she had to pay a penance for by betraying her ideals in the hope that would somehow make them realized.
Playing this game since ps3. The rest of yall are posers
The Anarchist-Communist Peter Kropotkin had similar views of his naturalist studies, that altruism developed biologically from evolutionary self-preservation. Darwin witnessed that adaptation was key, and Kropotkin saw Mutual Aid as intrinsic to evolutionary survival. The individual ins stronger and more secure within community that provides for individuals and protect each other.
Just came here from the Bill Maher video to give Kav some algorithm engagement 👍
Jacob Geller just dropped a video about this game as well.
Sought this out bc Kav said YT buried it. Mission accomplished like a based Snakurah.
Can't forget Max0r' video did NUMBERS to help boost this game's popularity
Hey, I'm just here for that Rules of Nature hit.
Well...gonna have to get through this first so I can watch this video...time to finally play my copy of Twin Snakes for GameCube
Does anyone have the discord link? It's invalid when I try to join
I need a link to that amazing dub
Yessss MGS analysis by lefties, I just been graced with this in my feed. Will watch soon.
The original MGS was about genes being selfish, I don't think they got the original concept right but it's curious how much Richard Dawkins comes up (the author of The Selfish Gene, a book much better than its author.)
I don't like making this "Dawkins meme" distinction, because "Internet memes" are just memes that propagate through social media posts. They are so diverse there is no other consistent definition. It's all the same thing, small pieces of culture that can be spread via communication and mutated by human intention or misfiring cognitive processes. If anyone enjoys SCP Foundation, thinking about "memetics" (also see the _Understanding Memetics_ essay) can be helpful in getting rid of the mental stigma. It's not like the meme concept is uniquely shackled to the selfish gene theory either, for example a few years later sci-fi author Philip K. Dick independently derived basically the same concept through a theosophical route in his schizobiographical novel VALIS just using a different term.
Memes, there be memes.
Red Sun is a serious close second for me, but my favorite is Collective Consciousness. Specifically this mix of it ruclips.net/video/RK2r9Tc1m6E/видео.html
I love the lyrics, they're so, like, satisfying? Like it's just a great theme for a villain, and in terms of just the song overall it rips HARD
Josh keaton the voice actor of Ocelot is a big leftist Bernie Bro.
so I believe that that shining City On a Hill quote from both Reagan and Obama is actually a really culturally resonate quote here in the US and if my memory of grade school serves me well, then it originated from some of the first European people to come and colonize the US, they came mostly (obviously) because of religious persecution, so for some reason the quote feels like it came from some big name protestant way way back in the day, and for some reason it also seems like something the founder of mormonism repeated a number of times, but yeah that's very literally the way a large number of us Americans see our country, Id say its a primarily right wing, American traditionalists way of looking at things, but ofc, Obama and many liberals see the US State the same way...
A M O G U S
"What about full of pilk? Is that a meme?
I fucking love that game, easily one of the best Platinum productions and one of the best action games of it’s time.
While I did uses the code quite frequently, even if you don’t use it that much it’s very blatant with it’s messaging. Armstrong practically beats you over the head with it.
Favorite character… Mistral. A giant redhead that loves to fight/kill but also still was searching for a deeper purpose. What’s not to love.
Didn’t mistral find her purpose?
For example, “and then I met him, his ideals gave my life meaning. Ideals jack, what are yours?”. The first part of the sentence literally clarified she found Armstrong and inherited his memes (Richard Dawkins version lol).
Yeah but maybe I don’t want to spoil shit for people that haven’t played it yet.
10/10 intro
The next game coming back for it's political messaging is we happy few. It's not very memeable, but people keep reanimating it because it's aesthetic and message fit the moment well, but it's one of those games that only really gets good after the game "ends".
It is 100% the more accessible version of pathologic, so if you (like me) watched hbomberguy's vid on pathologic but just couldn't get into the game, play we happy few. Then try to start playing pathologic 2 30 more times (like me).
Favorite MGR chracacter: I think I will say Raiden because of how he see war and how it's harm childern.
Favorite song: Collective Consciousness. that song is very leftist in it's lyrics.
Pog pog pog
Oh god, Metal Gear, while the gameplay is great, the story is dumb as hell and massively overrated.
This is a story where a guy gets his hand cut off, has a replacement grafted on and the personality of this grafted hand takes over his body. Except it doesn't, because he just hypnotised himself into thinking that it did.
I'm sorry, but that's soap opera level writing and is some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
Tell me, if this story is so dumb, why the hell it managed to actually explore control if information through memes back in 2001, openly talk about history of American imperialism and have actual exploration of how soldiers affected by conflicts? The thing so called realistic stories try to avoid or hide in 20 layers of subtext that original meaning is lost.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 I hate to break it to you, pal, but everyone outside of America (and videogames) has been talking about that stuff for decades.
It didn't get released in 2001, Revengeance (god, even the name is dumb) was released in 2013, when American Imperialism was balls deep in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Not exactly prescient to be talking about things that were currently happening, unless for some reason you think memes didn't exist back then.
I'll have to replay metal gear rising to give a proper comment lolz.
Armstrong is my favorite for so many reasons. From his absurd yet realistic goal to his prediction of Donald Trump to his many amazing quotes, perhaps my favorite being "DONT FUCK WITH THIS SENATOR" as he punts Raiden, followed by a cheering crowd. As for favorite song, It Has to Be This Way goes so well with the Armstrong battle. I also love his enthusiasm trying to get Raiden to side with him his expressions are hilarious. And yes I'm putting that quote above "NANOMACHINES, son!"
I honestly think it's just a simpler thing than that. One streamer tried this older game that they had previously skipped, found it's actually rather fun, and then a bunch of other streamers who had also skipped it jumped on the bandwagon and are finding that, yeah, it's a fairly solid title. And over the top as shit.
Yes, the politics are worth discussing, but the new popularity of the game is not because of that, I don't think.
No, it’s exactly because of it. The popular memes of the game and the shitposts of the fan base as well as the very delightful streamers losing their fucking marbles over this games batshit insane stuff. You can see that the game has a growing audience till today with the example of many vod channels having metal gear rising streams as their top video. I literally can’t get out of the fandom. So no, this wasn’t temporary popularity unlike many games today. But a growing seed that just grows continuously until there’s a sequel (that won’t happen :( ).
@@feister2869 No, no, I didn't mean to imply it's temporary. Just that a streamer randomly decided to do this title they skipped, loved it, others decided to jump on the bandwagon, and also love it. I don't mean bandwagon to say it's a temporary craze. They are legit enjoying the title, and will continue to do so, and are embracing and expanding upon the fandom.
@@tyrongkojy ehh, the start is very iffy.
@@feister2869 I didn't mean it as something that was specified. I mean, I'm sure if one looked at all the streamers, looked at who they follow (not even watch, just follow), and go back far enough, you'd find the alpha streamer (and this being the internet, there's a fair chance they do in fact think of themselves as an alpha) who started it all, plus I grant that it may simply go back to the original release and occasional streamers just picking it up over time, skipping it but being interested, and on and on, and yes, it's pure speculation, but this is how most of these games get popularity. Streamers copying each other, either just for the views, or because of genuine interest. And face it, the game knows how to garner interest.
Unfortunately for the "codec" conversations, they want you to check it after nearly every damn sentence sometimes, and my fucking gods, does that shit become tedious and annoying. To get the context, I have to listen to five ten minutes conversations about fucking movies? All between actual gameplay moments that would amount to about five minute's worth of playtime. I stopped trying to catch them all have way through level 2.
Here’s the video for the speech by Maxor An Incorrect Summary of Metal Gear Rising | Part 1 ruclips.net/video/41v3L0zCkNY/видео.html
So meems?
Nice argument, Kavernacle. Why don't you back it up with a SOURCE!
The source is he made it the fuck up!
What a complex plot line….
9th view pog, earliest ive ever been
Like number 666 😄
" I don't want my video games to be political! "
One of the best video games that ever existed: "I WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN ! >:D"