Mel Kiper's WORST NFL Draft Takes of ALL TIME
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I think it's more impressive that his hairstyle hasn't changed in 40 years.
It might not have changed but it's been in full retreat for a while now.
Botox for hair???
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Except it is receding.
@Curtis Brown and older svp
Before Mel Kiper, there was no such thing as "A draft expert". Now every network has 2 dozen of them.
He actually created his own business and own niche.
That's the American Dream.
Yea for real there really isn’t even a way to be a draft expert lol if you really think about it it’s all a gimmick. College stars don’t pan out all the time.
Yup! Thats 100% correct. The draft wasn't even that big of a deal before he started talking about it. Now the draft is this huge attraction, and Mel like him or not, was a part of that growth.
Fake it until you make it
True
A spindoctor, came in said you need a draft expert because of this and that and guess what, today is your lucky day because I just happen to be one 😂
I don't take Kiper's takes seriously, but I do applaud him for his hustle to get to this point of his career.
99% of analysis are wrong lol because no matter what the stats show it's still just an opinion
Not bad for a snake oil salesman or a flim flam man.
I was gonma sat, it is pretty inspiring to hear about this college kid still living at home with no football experience who became one of the biggest names in sports just off of hustle alone.
@@stoneragan3870 I'm thinking it's more of a gifted tongue. But if this falls through, Kiper has a career as a weatherman.
@@don-lucpicard9411 I mean you may be right, but I cant understand hating him or anything. He's not really hurting anyone, and drafting players is basically a game of chance for even the GMs and coaches. Lile this video calls Mel out for praising Jamarcus Russle, but he went 1st overall so clearly other people thought he was great too. All any analyst does is state their opinion and guess.
Kiper is a joke, he’s the Steven Seagal of the NFL draft.
@jimfrazier8611he even kinda looks like Seagal. If Seagal had invested in hair growth and didn’t become a fatass
Doesn't matter 95% of scouts and teams have it wrong. Just look at Tom Brady picking Tampa Bay. Came out and picked the Bucs and everyone said they couldn't win the superbowl. Scout versus someone that played against the Bucs. Simply put unless you put pads on no one can look at film and have idea what the player can do.
@@Theckonestrohwhen Brady picked the Bucs, they became one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl.
What the hell are you talking about?
@@brianfoley7342 Really ain't serious when they said "Brady can't win without Bill Belichick"! Then all of ESPN anyalists where saying Brady might not make superbowl. Where did you get the Bucs didn't look shaky at 3-2 to start out the season?
@@Theckonestrohyou said “Cane out and picked the Bucs and everyone said they couldn’t win the superbowl”. You did not say after they started a shaky 3-2 everyone said they couldn’t win the superbowl.
When he “came out and picked the Bucs”, TB became one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl.
If you would like my take on after they were 3-2, next time be more specific in your post.
I gotta respect the hustle. He’s wrong 90% of the time and still everyone asks him every year what he thinks and gets a nice fat salary. Dudes a genius 🤣
It's for entertainment.
Lol the teams be wrong 90% of the time too it’s a hard job
@@raheballentine6925 true that
90% of the time? He’s wrong 95% of the time! But still he is better than that biggest loudmouth quack of all time - Stephen A Smith!
@@grandwonder5858 haha true 😂
Okay, real talk. In David Carr's defense, no one could have gone onto a first year expansion team and played well that draft.
@Vaughn Thacker Exactly 😂
They should have took Juilliess peppers because they should have known no quarterback will be able to do much
No there are some players who transcend location and maybe not plated well but mr care was no good ever he was never gonna be successful in the nfl just like Bradie Quinn Brett Farve and Tom Brady oops
Miner was actually not a horrible plater and if he was a 2nd tier guy that would have been a back up sitting behind a successful starter who could have taught him he could have been a 15 yr player
David Carr was a huge waste of talent. He could have done very well on a team with even a middle of the road offensive line.
I've got to give him props for turning his hobby which he had no talent or training for into a six figure a year career.
It's because he is white
@@gabeartis8208 Fact
@@gabeartis8208 😂 i hope you’re joking
@@vdiddystudios8043 no I'm seriously not white people really act like they don't got a privilege in the world the shit is hilarious the fact Mel Nvr played football not even at a collegiate level no black man would have been able to do that pre 1980
@@gabeartis8208 Dont think its hes white just not a dumbass lol
As a Texans fan you cannot blame David Carr for what happened. We were a fresh franchise with an atrocious OL. If he goes anywhere else he probably wins quite alot.
I think Carr was a pretty good QB, he just got killed by that horrible OL. If I was Carr, I would have refused to play for the Texans.
Mel Kiper once said “The Texans took him 1st overall, then forgot about him” referencing how they completely neglected the O line protecting him. Facts
Poor David, anyone taps him on the shoulder he freaks out and throws himself on the floor for safety.
@@eduardopena5893well that's just not how things work buddy. This whole athlete should be able to pick where they go isn't it. If you're a really good player you're going to go to a team that didn't do well last year. That's how the leagues try to balance themselves out.
@@matthewrock4725 I guess you aren't familiar with John Elway who REFUSED to play for Baltimore and Bo Jackson who REFUSED to play for Tampa Bay. That's how Elway wound up in Denver and Bo wound up with the Raiders.
I wanted to see his worst takes, not his life story.
Right. Wtf is this shit.
Bad takes are his life story
@@Jfen79 Good point
exactly...would have also been great to hear, you know, mel kiper.
Exactly lol
6:12 is when he starts talking about the Mel kiper’s picks
Like the editing but this Mike stuff is always looooooooooooonnnnnng winded.. thanks for the timing
@@juniorp726 lol right?! How are there no MKJ clips?!
One thank you
Two shame on him for taking forever
Thank you I was getting very annoyed
@@madisonsaxon2726 me too
I can't blame him for drooling over RG3. He really was an amazing talent
He was 100% destroyed by Mike Shannahan when he forced him to play on one leg.
Bigfootin' Deal = Mel Kiper?
@Greta Thanos are you going to act like RG3 didn’t win rookie of the year?
@Greta Thanos but he did beat Oklahoma in 2011..tf are you talking about.
@Greta Thanos he made the pro bowl in his rookie season
The issue with Kiper is that he is always 100% certain with every take he has. If he just said he didn't like a player, people wouldn't care. But he always says that a guy he doesn't like is without a doubt a bust and that the team is stupid for picking them, and he still has that attitude no matter how many times it has bit him in the ass
Absolutely
any of us could go up there in a $2000 suit and puke out some dull opinions. Unfortunately that sort of personality and sharp opinions get him his seat at the table.
But i agree. Its annoying and i just stopped watching ALL draft coverage altogether. It is really is a massive waste in time. Imagine trying to guess the winners of an auction weeks in advanced based on the best value of product and who was buying. Its just stupid. I just check my phone at the end of day two and see what we get to look forward too.
I’m certain he’s a narcissist
I’ve been calling this guy a hack for 20 years and you’ve gone and compiled the proof. Thank you, Sir.
Ever since the Colts drama back in the early 90s he has been a running joke.
@@why-even-try-brotendo: He needs to rent advertising on that forehead.
Pretty much anyone on that chair is gonna be a hack. Nobody can tell you when young players are gonna be great nfl players. We’ve seen the proof year after year. Bill in mew England is supposed to bc a football genius. How many great picks has he made over the last ten years? It’s not an easy thing to do.
@@jebadiahfyefye8994 Difference is Mel goes out of his way to double and triple down his picks. Anyone who goes above and beyond to consistently make terrible draft decisions should be singled out from the other people that make mistakes.
He is a hack. Typical ESPN non-talent
How can you shit on him for having all these guys rated highly, when NFL teams took these guys just as highly as he had them lmao? It’s the NFL Draft, you’re inevitably wrong extremely often.
Kind of like the Mel kiper of RUclips
I know right? He put David Carr on the list as a bust, as if Jesus Christ himself could have created time to throw with that O-line. Ridiculous take.
@@thelastmanonearth2631 the hell are you talking about dude?The Lord would take that team to the playoffs EVERY TIME! AS IF!
@@barbaraGobert31 😂😂😂 that's fair enough! It was hyperbolic, but still!!! No NFL QB would have survived the Texans inaugural season anyway.
What a fantastic job to have - doesn’t matter that you’re wrong all the time! Lol
Just like a uk weatherman!
His parents seemed really supportive. That’s cool
Jewish mothers *WORSHIP* their sons. That's how, despite centuries of debate among theologians, you *KNOW* that Jesus was Jewish; his mother thought he was God and he, thought she, was a virgin.
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer We know jeebus existed because his gay sister, Sploonka, invented basketball.
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer 🤣🤣🤣
@@NeverTalkToCops1 Dude, that's legitimately the funniest thing I've ever heard! 😱😭☠️ Just more proof that atheists are always the most clever people in the room.
Pro Tip for anyone paying attention; Should your massive inferiority complex that's been boiling in a stew of covetous narcissism, *constantly* spill over with the need to flaunt your superficial, pseudo-intellectualism, so as to achieve the approval and attention you thought you were due but went to others far less deserving - Simply cease every opportunity, however tenuous, to shoehorn in some kind of joke or idiomatic expression that lets everyone know you do not believe in God, religion, an afterlife, *what-fkn-EVER* and that you maintain dismissive contempt for any room temperature I.Q. knuckle dragger who does.
Cuz ebrybuddy knowze that the smartest people who ever lived, like Tesla, Einstein, Newton, Dostoevsky, Plato, Aristotle, Solzhenitsyn, Da Vinci, Abdessellam Jelloul, Christopher Hirata, Emmanuel Swedenborg, Shakespeare, Carl Gauss, James Maxwell *NONE* of them were theists! Oh... Uh... Wait a minute... Well, nevermind, it doesn't matter!!! Everyone on Facebook and is a good Democrat *KNOWS* that only dummies believe in God and atheists are the way they are because they're just too damned smart to believe in a man in the clouds!!! 😤👎
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Wowzers, triggered much?
My biggest takeaway from this is the most impressive thing about Mel Kiper is he saw the growing popularity of the draft in the late 70s and was probably one of the first to brand themselves as a 'draft pundit'
For real though I respect the guys hustle
That's about the only thing he's gotten right in the last 40+ years! (Yes, this is an exaggeration, but not much of one.)
Watching Mel age in the intro montage made me realize he looks like an aging vampire…from now on, I will refer to him as “Count Draftula”.
You are damn right dude he don't age at all
Underrated comment
He forgot to mention that Mel called the 2012 draft by Seattle was horrible, an F he said. Now it's known as one of the best drafts of all time.
Two years after that draft, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. To quote Nicolas Cage in The Rock, "How do you like how that shit works?"
Good draft indeed. One of the best of all time? nah
To be fair Bruce Irvin in the first round was a reach. If he was basing it off of that then fair. Just having Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson as the next two picks more than makes up for it
They knew they had a once inna decade type team. And they had the most dominant defense in the NFL history. They had room to pick up whoever they wanted to fill in those small gaps of talent. People can hate but still as being a giants fan, that seahawks team was wild
@@tylernugent3617 if Russell Wilson pulled off the back to back SBs, i think he would be knocking on the door of the Hall. Then that draft would have pulled off Irvin Wagner and Russ. Look through best drafts ever by every team and I’ll take the Seahawks 2012. Again, one yard away from grabbing 2 HoF’s on both sides of the ball, with a 1st round fringe immediate starting LB to boot.
Clicked faster than EDP ran to his cupcake
1 minute after I seen this
@@Kickoffprodz777 well i think its pretty well known that edp has only one speed
and that is super speed
not very fast
think I saw this before...
Jeff George had the mobility of reinforced concrete.
Minor detail: Eli had no problems playing for Accorsi's team - the Giants - he didn't want to play for the Chargers.
This dude trying to shit on another man for getting stuff wrong, yet does same thing in his video
@@codybaker076 if you watch the video he gives Kiper some credit too.
Same thought
@@codybaker076 Big time, I'm no fan of Kiper but jeez.
I'm glad you pointed this out because he made a few mistakes in this video
We'll never know what David Carr might have been. He was given an abysmal offensive line, and never had a chance.
Giants got him a ring for his troubles. It all balanced out.
Yep, Texans destroyed him.
David Carr was horrible.
@@jjones2509 You don't think getting sacked 70+ times a year for 3 years contributed to that?
@@MrCveedub When you can't read a defense and get rid of the ball you are going to get sacked. Not knowing when to step up into the pocket or take it outside the box is a problem. Carr did not have good football awareness.
So basically Mel is just as efficient as NFL front offices, the draft is a crap shoot. The Cowboys drafted taco Charlton over TJ Watt. I rest my case
Exactly
Well said. I would also add if one is going to rate the draft experts.such as what Mikerophone attempts to do in this video one does not need to use useless metrics such as whether Mel's picks hit exactly in the order of the draft (that type of metric would be categorically nonsensical). A better metric might be whether Mel was in the ballpark of getting the draft order right. For example, if Mel called a player to be picked #10 overall, was Mel at least within +-5 of the player's actual drafting order. Besides this metric (which I just made up), perhaps there are a ton of other more sensible metrics.
And the bears drafted Mitch Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes in the same damn draft. I mean I could go on all day. Now you can rest your case
Just go look at the defensive ends/linebackers drafted before Watt. But here you are. Hater
@@broganchapman3731 how am I a hater, I was defending Mel Kiper by pointing out that the draft is a crap shoot. Teams make mistakes on players they like too. But enjoy your day buddy.
This dude is a PERFECT example of the fact that being loud, and having an opinion, doesn't mean you're right. You can somehow build a career for yourself on tv by being loud, and having an opinion, but history will eventually prove whether you are just throwing darts at a board like everyone else, or whether you actually know what you are talking about. This video shows that I could do as good a job as this dude does at analyzing college players.
If his job was easy, no team would’ve ever picked a bust. You couldn’t do shit
@@ryanedinger7894exactly bro. I would’ve like at least one mentioned about how hard it is to get drafting correct
@@christianbraun8290well you scout for years . How much time and reports do you need ? Most of the time it’s mental health for players or not a good fit with the management
Are you talking about Kiper or the youtuber? "This dude" is perfectly ambiguous so I love this statement.
WAIT! WHAT!? I DISAGREE WITH DAT BIG TIME. IF THERE IS A BUST HERE, IT'S NOT YOURS MADAM, IT YOU AND YOUR RUclips SPORTS. I'M! MEL! KIPER! YOU'RE THE BUST!
Watching this waiting for mels horrible picks and then having to double check if I clicked the right video because it started feeling like an autobiography of Mel kiper 😂😂
For real I was like “who tf wants to know this much info about Mel Kiper.”
Would be a biography
I watched the entire thing waiting on Mahomes. And never heard it.
Gotta love clock bait
There's a reason Frank Caliendo doesn't do Kiper.
I disliked the video for this reason
They showed Mahomes for a half a second when he said making 6 digit number
Thank you for saying this. Man this pisses me off.
Fun Fact: the Colts moved to Indianapolis to get away from Mel🤣
Fun Fact. Kiper is still on ESPN and the GM who said "Who the he'll is Mel Kiper?" ...where is he now?
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 Bill Tobin, he was the man responsible for the drafting of Harrison and Faulk in Indy and currently overseeing the Bengals rebuild starting with Joe Burrows. And unlike Kipper, he actually played at professional level as a running back in the 1960s.
Can we please stop celebrating Mel's mediocrity?
@@DanTheMailman330 If only enough people gotten the sense but it seems they bought into the hype from what they learned from 1994. I wonder how many of them are even aware that Tobin drafted Faulk that same draft class.
I think a lot of these "busts" are guys who were put in bad situations. David Carr comes to mind. He was forced to start right away and had no help. At that point he becomes Footsteps Falco from the Replacements. He definitely missed on some like JaMarcus, but every one has misses. I enjoyed his banter with McShay.
Facts. The coaches and ownership put guys in bad situations and they blame the draft pick. Its like corporate America.
He was right about Aaron Hernandez..He said that was a Killer Pick
Ohh boy, you had to go there lol. Did you used to write for Leno?
@@thinkaboutit6029 idk who Leno is..
@@rmp661CA Jay Leno, the previous host of the tonight show
@@thinkaboutit6029 ooo 🤣 i wish
Funny sh!t...but I shouldn't be laughing at that.😔
Mel was the original RUclipsr, just giving his opinion and made it on TV through sheer force of will and personality.
I never listened to this guy about NOTHING when he comes on tv during draft night I turn the tv down 👎
and hair.
That is a nice analogy. He was ahead of his time and the technology.
Honestly Kiper is a genius. He invented mock drafts and has made tons of money out of it, as well as making it a thing for almost every so called analyst. I feel like it doesn’t even matter whether he’s right or wrong. Most of the analysts get the picks wrong.
He didn’t invent them but he was an early adopter no doubt
No doubt. All the "experts" are wrong more times than not. And surprisingly alot of fans are usually right. The fans that dont just mindlessly regurgitate what the "experts" say anyways
I can remember listening to Joel Buchsbaum on the radio in the 80's talking about the NFL, which he focused a lot on upcoming draft prospects. He always had a lot of information on prospects, even marginal ones, and also had strong opinions on their abilities. I bet Mel Kiper was aware of him and may have copied a lot of techniques that Buchsbaum used to gather information about NFL prospects, and also may have copied Buchsbaum's gimmick in how he expressed himself in an outspoken manner. However, good for Kiper that he made a lot of money at it and a name for himself, while Buchsbaum died a forgotten man.
If analyzing a player's pro potential was easy there would never be busts. It's hard, Kiper may be wrong more than average, I really don't know but it's a hard profession.
@@GigaChadDuPlessisgod u have vrgin energy
I remember when Beano Cook predicted that Mirer would win TWO Heismans. lol
In almost 40 years I expect there to be plenty of mistakes. Big props to Kiper for working so hard to get what he has. GMs got these picks wrong too.
Haha cringe
True. A lot of people passed on Tom Brady.
Which is exactly why "draft experts" like Mel Kiper shouldn't exist at all. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and neither does anyone else. They watch a few plays of a guy on game tape and proclaim themselves as experts. I should have taken up this fraud of a career when I had the chance. Mel Kiper doesn't know anything more than the average NFL fan looking at draft picks.
@@logicaldude3611 expert doesn’t necessarily mean perfect. Just means he’s the top official in his field. Plus we all like to hear talking heads. If we didn’t, these networks would not exist.
@@logicaldude3611 That's a shit take.
Your 2 minute intro is why YT algorithm is hating.. lol
Wait. If Favre was drafted further down than McGuire, but Kiper had them ranked evenly... then he was more accurate than NFL GMs. How is that him getting it wrong?
Because McGuire was no where near the level of player Favre was. GMs got it wrong too obviously.
GMs get more shit wrong than kiper. But kiper is the one that's hated on
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn at times
He was supposed to predict that Brett would be a Hall of Famer. 😂
@@lasenyo7705 I think that’s a key thing to remember. NFL GM’s that do this for a living constantly make mistakes. Look at how many first round QB’s drafted in the last 10 years are still on their original teams, or even in the league. Kiper does no worse than them really.
To be fair, almost every analyst was very high on JaMarcus Russell. If you look back on draft previews, mostly everyone was saying the Raiders should draft him. But it was based on his potential rather than skill. If Russell has better Work Ethic, he might have succeeded but he didn't.
Not analysts. Their entertainers remember that
If Russell was taken by a more stable franchise, he might have turned his ability into talent. The Raiders would have probably ruined Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers.
The players grade is more important than picking the exact spot someone goes at. It only takes 1 Raiders left field pick to change the way the rest of the 1st round goes.
Exactly. The whole "getting 20 picks wrong in a row" doesn't mean shit. "Fucking up" is saying someone will be trash and they become a star, or vise versa. And even then, even the best GMs and talent evaluators let star players fall to the 4th and 5th rounds (meaning literally EVERY team "missed" on that player). It's basically an educated guess. All you can do is educate yourself by studying the player on and off the field, and then you hope they develop into what their potential is.
I don't think the thumbnail was fair cause he thought Mahomes was going to be really good.
He didn't think Mahomes going to be good
@@terminator23destroyer15 What are you talking about? He said he has the "highest ceiling" in his class. Had him going 12 overall. Most of his Mahomes stuff was glowing. Only bad things were he thought he turn the ball over, and his numbers in college might have been a bit high bc of the TT spread offense.
@@mikemiken1963 no he didn't say all of that shit but say that he was too small and probably be a 2 string player
@@terminator23destroyer15 www.news-herald.com/sports/espn-analyst-mel-kiper-says-patrick-mahomes-has-highest-ceiling/article_601bbddb-dba0-53da-aca6-7338517320e3.html
Sure, this article that pre supposed that draft is just made up.
@@terminator23destroyer15 Somebody woud def say take a 2nd string qb 13th overall...
He changed the way people view the NFL draft. The huge spectacle that it is today is largely due to Mel Kiper.
Still sucks at his job lol
@@canesrule96 Except he doesn't
@@canesrule96 You obviously don’t understand his job. He’s an analyst that gives his opinion on players. No different than any other analyst on ESPN. Just because he’s wrong doesn’t mean he sucks. Every NFL coach, scout, and GM is wrong about players all the damn time
@@daltoncrane3998 Kiper also pick a lot of right ones too, that the uploader isn't mentioning
Agree! He’s right about 5% of the time!
I give the guy all the credit in the world!! He took his blank slate, an turned himself into an industry. He never even had to be successful.
The ultimate weatherman of sports analysis, his persona created a charicature of himself that he has been able to sell to the public for over 4 decades! The ultimate little engine that not only COULD, but actually DID. Good for You, Mel 🤙🏻
I mean isn't that kind of the nature of sports culture in general? The draft just tends to be exceptionally unpredictable and he carved his own niche there.
Jeff George had an absolute cannon of an arm. His problem was not lack talent but lack of leadership skills.
Facts
so true
George had a nice run with the Vikings when Moss and Carter were there.
@@votto67 dude had a cannon. Gunslinger
Being able to throw far doesn't mean you're a talented QB.
To Mel's defense,this is a 100% guessing game.
It is. And if that's the case...we should all be getting paid millions of dollars a year by ESPN, just to guess.
@@Ispeakthetruthify He has more of an educated guess than us,but still a guest 😄😆
@@TravelAdventureswithEricB Now don't get me wrong....the guy does his research. But in the end, none of us know where these guys are going to be drafted(except the few obvious exceptions), or what they're going to do once they get to the NFL.
He’s gets paid because he’s an entertainer who gives his educated opinion. He gets paid based on the revenue he brings to espn, not on how many hit or misses he has
Mel is the 🐐🐐🐐.
Having said that cool video. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
This man basically created the industry of independent draft evaluation
Before Kiper teams basically threw darts at a board or drew names out of a hat when they drafted. (Except for the Cowboys, they used a computer.) By today's standards Kiper might even deserve a spot in the Hall Of Fame for literally changing the way teams draft forever.
You spelt "incompetent" wrong. The guy is a moron & gets all his information from reading magazines.
Da'Quan Bowers, my absolute favorite moment from draft history. We sat and ripped Mel apart for years because of his behavior related to him in 2011. He went on and on about how he can't believe he's not drafted, raving about how he's the best available player in the draft. The dude is coaching now and only played for four years in the NFL after that draft and Mel was so far off the mark it was a running joke for us every year.
I remember Mel saying that Bowers, NOT Cam Newton was gonna go first overall. And that Newton could even fall to the second round. It’s like what the hell are you smoking and how much for it?
To quote colts gm, "who the hell is Mel kieper any way"
That was funny 🤣
To quote Bill Tobin, “I bet Trev Alberts will be good!”
Mannn...to be fair everyone thought Jemarcus Russell was gonna be the man
The best thing about Mel Kiper is Frank Caliendo's impersonation of him. "Tawd, Tawd, Tawd!"
Ole Jeff George.... I went to elementary school in Indianapolis and Jeff's Mother was our Secretary at the Pleasant Run Elementary. After he was drafted to the Colts I remember Jeff coming to the school and popping into our class room to say hey.. Kinda a cool moment for a kid as a Colts fan.
Can't blame Kiper for Detroit, Cleveland and Seattle's poor picks at QB throughout their histories. I blame their scouts and GMs.
Should be noted that Ryan Leaf has done a great job of turning his life around.
Fr he’s a great dude
He turned his leaf around
That might be true (not to mention really awesome), but it’s not nearly as sensational as the unfortunate events that went down while he was in the throes of addiction, so of course it’ll be reported w/ about 10% of the fervor as all his missteps were. Sad 😞
@@justinmix143 facts media only posts about his fall from grace and not his inspirational comeback
@@incognit0mode that's why it should be noted
He has an amazing talent for remembering names.
and staying employed.
@@briant4266 I guess he is a good talker
Props to Kiper for starting his own business and becoming so successful with no relevant experience. And for his dedication to the helmut hair.
What happened to David Carr wasn't really David Carr's fault that O-line had holes bigger than Mel Kipers mouth. By the time the O-line was solid Carr's body was so injury ridden that he was done.
David Carr was the first overall pick in the 2002 NFL draft by the Houston Texans. It wasn’t just Mel Kiper but also the NFL scouts who thought he was a potentially great NFL quarterback. Most of the time Kiper’s picks are almost aligned with the rest of the NFL scouts.
That's true. David Carr is an example of a great player not being able to overcome a terrible organization.
I've always hated that Carr was labeled a bust. A true bust is a guy who never puts in the work to make the transition to the pro game not one on a poorly managed team.
Mikerophone: Lets Fight the Evil NFL.
Also Mikerophone: Makes money of NFL videos.
He has a point though, it's utter BS for the NFL to go after him when there are hundreds of NFL videos on YT they're perfectly fine with letting stay up.
@@DolFan316 ya ik but i found that funny how he is saying he is saying it
In Kiper's defense on JaMarcus Russel, he wasn't wrong about the skills. Russel had the skills to be one of the all time greats. It was his character and psychology that led him into becoming the biggest bust in NFL history. People forget how much praise this guy had coming out of college. Most "experts" thought he's be a generational talent. What they didn't count on was him becoming lazy and his mental health declining, due to several personal tragedies.
That's debatable. There are a lot of skills that go into being a pro level starting QB that has a good career. It isn't just arm strength. I don't believe JaMarcus' skillset translated to the NFL as well as many people thought it would. I don't think he was accurate enough to be a high level NFL qb. And mentally and work ethic wise he definitely wasn't there.
Thank you. Russell threw a ball into a trash can fifty yards away on one knee. Was Kiper meant to predict he would get addicted to lean?
@@jesseaustin4089Jamarcus made plenty of pro throws within pro concepts at LSU and had good college stats. He got fat, addicted to lean, and stop caring once he got paid
He had the skills for a college qb playing against high school kids.
People also don't realize how BUTT JUICE that team around him was
ESPN has never cared about it’s analysts being right. Kiper’s picks are always controversial. Controversy drives engagement. That’s what they want and that’s why Kiper has a job.
To be fair, David Carr would of been great on literally any other team. The Texans basically “Andrew luck’d” him. Didn’t invest in an OL and he was beat to hell.
It still drives me insane that Indy got a great O line better defense and a good running game after Luck retired. If they could've done any of that for Luck who knows how far he could've gone
@@comp34 I be farting on da pee
Good point. Archie Manning was a great college QB who went to a bad team. Troy Aikman. Etc etc
Yes and that was back when you could actually hit the qb
You can't rag on Mel for his lack of football experience and then proceed to call Fran Tarkenton "Frank". SMH.
@@tspawn35 he’s not a reporter though.. he’s a scout. Collecting information from other sources and being the SOURCE OF information are not the same thing..
the guy is a genius. Sure he's not always right but what analyst is ? This guy created scouting for fans. We should all be thanking him. He literally brought scouting to our living room.
Truthfully, mock drafts and predicting how good a player will be at the next level are totally different. I think the insiders are good with which teams like which players but you gotta determine separately if those players are going to be any good. I usually focus on measurables and character, specifically trying to determine a guy’s work ethic/motor(preparation goes into this) combined with talent/athleticism.
I love when Frank Caliendo impersonates Mel😂
One of the guys on the Pat McAfee show does an incredible Kiper impression too. Watch Pat McAfee reacts to the chicago bears trade up for Justin Fields
Ty Schmidt, yea his Mel is pretty good.. last year 😅
Todd!
He's also more accurate than him too
His best impersonation by far....lmao!!!
I’m glad someone took the time out to address this. Mel Kiper has been trash at this draft thing lol.
I think it’s a stretch to call him trash, he certainly over hypes certain prospects and buys into narratives, which makes him more of an entertainer. But he’s also the reason the draft is relevant and popular so we owe him some respect.
Plus if you did this for as long as he did you would have some busts too
@@samuelgingras6291 did you watch the video? At 2:11 he mentions how just recently he had 20 consecutive incorrect picks. I understand that teams are different from league to league but this guy has the probability of a coin flip to be right about a player or even be correct about a team’s draft choice. He’s awful plain and simple.
@@wyattspaulding7723 SOME BUSTS. This guy has championed some of the biggest busts in league history including Jamarcus Russel.
@@2Littoral I did watch the video, but more importantly have you ever watched any drafts? Crazy stuff happens before the draft and during the draft that can shift an entire set of rankings. Laremy Tunsil and the weed controversy, Aaron Rodgers falling from a projected top 5 to bottom first rounder, Owusu-Koromoah this year, Fields...it’s an inexact science and again read my f ing comment, I clearly say that he’s an entertainer more than an analyst.
Eli Manning never refused to play for Ernie Accorsi, he was the GM for the NY Giants when Eli was drafted by the San Diego Chargers, which is the team he refused to play for. It's ironic that Mike is doing a video about Mel Kiper's mistakes and he makes a huge one like that.
Anyone eles notice he uses #15 in him thumb mail but didn’t mention him one time. GO chiefs clout chasersssssss
This video is rife with false narratives.
Kiper is the living embodiment of “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.”
I thought that was Alec Baldwin
@@chiefkeef74 you’re not wrong.
What does that mean?
@@williamhenning4320 he says the most random shit in an attempt to be right
Who’s ready for night 2?
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Let’s go
Can't wait
@@Liam-vb1lf same wonder where Kyle trask will go but mad about trey lance before Justin fields
Kellen Mond is the next Russel Wilson. Mark my words!!!
In all fairness to Mel, JaMarcus Russell quit as soon as he got his first paycheck, and it’s usually pretty hard to predict that. I say “usually” because all of LaVar Arrington’s teammates KNEW once he got signed to his record contract football wouldn’t matter nearly as much to him.
Edit: I meant Albert Haynesworth. My bad, Mr Arrington.
Don’t forget about Albert Haynesworth!! 🙄
@@moffjerjerrod1579 oh... whoops... that’s who I meant... why do I get Arrington mixed up with him?
@@dudedurham no idea bud. Butt Arrington was pretty good but kind of fizzled out. But at least he did not literally lay on the ground on MNF during a play. Or refuse to take the fitness tests. Wow Arrington was a lazy player. Then again, he’s got a ton of money. I wish l could get paid that much for not working 😒
You can't blame mel for picks like Russell he wasted his own career.
A draft analyst has to be able to determine if a player will do the work to keep improving.
He seems decent enough at grading physical tools. But when it comes to intangibles... forget about it. Even glaring character flaws.
I think you're missing some punctuation, because your sentence doesn't make sense.
@@jasonknotts1854 😂if u cant comprehend a sentence cause of a missing comma, that says alot about ur intelligence or lack there-of😩
Absolutely stupid
Despite his misses and not having "real experience in football", Kiper has proven himself a good NFL Draft expert over the years.
I would say Tony “roid warrior” Mandarich and JaMarcus “cheeseburger” Russell were bigger busts than Ryan “I will smack up a reporter” Leaf
Tony mandarin (idk how to spell his last name) did return to to the nfl and did have couple really good seasons until he got injured again and he didn’t want to take painkiller again
JaMarcus Russell wasn't as bad as people choose to remember.
I loved the idea of him as the Raiders starting quarterback. Het fit the Raiders perfectly.
@@dialecticalmonist3405 I don’t think it was ever the reason for lack of talent I think it’s lack of motivation and wanting to study the playbook and other teams
You can't troll Mel Kiper, because he's never been right. Dude would be a bad weather man. "No rain today." Look outside dude. It's raining.
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😂😂😂😂😂
😆 🤣 😂
Sounds like a standard weatherman to me.
Never been right? Tell that to Tom Brady. Back in the day, Mel Kiper thought TB12 was one of the top 10 quarterbacks in that 2000 draft. He saw talent and potential while virtually all the NFL front offices saw only question marks. Brady is now widely seen as the greatest draft steal in the history of the NFL and the Greatest Of All Time.
Carr probably could have been a good QB if he didn’t spend his entire rookie season on the ground
Yeah there’s a handful of these also brady Quinn probably would’ve been good if he hadn’t been drafted by Cleveland etc etc
Shoutout to the editor here. Good stuff!
Also, JaMarcus Russell could've definitely been amazing in the NFL. He had a literal cannon for an arm. His problem wasn't lack of talent it was lack of discipline and drive. Once he got drafted he was lost. Its like that was his only goal and once achieved he lost his desire.
He didn't have a literal cannon for an arm. He wasn't a cyborg or from the future.
But he would not have been good anywhere else. He was lazy and didn't put in the work at all. Did you ever hear of when he lied about studying plays from a blank DVD?
@@michaelkeller5927 yea, I believe that would fall under lack of discipline and drive. Also, he had a cannon. That was one of his biggest positives. Look up any scouting report on him.
Thats kind of what happens when you give teenagers who come from rags $50M. Can't believe they use to pay draft picks that much.
@@michaelkeller5927 he literally threw like 60+ yards on his knees. I don’t like him, but to say he wasn’t physically gifted is just wrong.
Word did you hear about how the raiders thought he wasn’t watching film so they gave him a dvd to watch and he came back and said yeah I watched it and yeah coach I learned all the plays. There was no dvd the coaches gave him a empty box. That’s how much discipline Russell had.
The one thing I will say in Kiper's defense is that the evaluation of draft prospects is EXTREMELY difficult. NFL GM's and scouts regularly make the same mistakes as Mel, but no one seems to be questioning their credibility in the same way
Seattle started winning when they stopped listening to Mel kipper 😂
In fairness RG3 and Luck showed more than enough to prove they would of been elite if they stayed healthy
Leaf "was" known as the biggest bust, then JaMarcus Russell happened
The Mitch Trubisky happened 😆
Leaf will always be number one on the busts. The reason why? He never played good. JaMarcus simply ate his way out of the league.
@@Topothetop He lost the motivation to play. He got paid and thought he didn't have to improve his craft. ( Jamarcus Russel )
Bo Jackson was both a big draft bust and big draft steal. A bust for Tampa who poisoned their relationship with him to where he refused to sign him. A steal for the Raiders who picked him in the 7th round the next year.
@Ace Davis he was definitely a bust but wasn't the first overall pick either
The picture of Carr getting sacked is a perfect reason why he didn't last. Look at his lineman, he is sitting on the ground. While the Defensive player looks like a stud. You could say he could have dodged the players' attempt to tackle him, but it's happening 1 out of 3 plays. They also let up the most sacks or was 2nd for most sacks when Carr was the quarterback.
Kiper helped a few teams get the next years number one pick. Success.
Suffering from success
10:48 KIPER: Jamarcus Russell is the next John Elway...🤣
As many mistakes he's had, you have to respect that grind he had to get where he is. Which is a good message for people. Keep grinding.
Exactly. You don't need talent, intelligence or frankly, even hard work to make it in life. You need persistence. And by that, I mean annoy the hell out of people until they give in and finally accept you.
I'm not a big draft day fan, but must admit, Mel Kiper really made it a big event, the sports channels will always give him the shine, he gave them a lot to talk about
@warren3427 Yeah, the guy is a buffoon who consistently gets everything wrong, but he's a rich, successful buffoon.
@@getreal2592 These days you don't even need to do THAT for very long, just throw one hissyfit and everybody's bowing and kowtowing to you, especially if you're under 30.
@@DolFan316 🙄
Ryan Leaf: I'm the biggest bust in NFL history! Jamarcus Russel: "Hold my beer"
In fairness, does anyone really successfully predict what prospects become? Teams Often have poor picks.
If you wanna call yourself a draft expert and talk shit to teams that don't do what you want then you deserve to be scrutinized.
@@ignotouno523 That’s fair, but I’d bet he’s made a lot of spot on analysis, but you only see compilations of his errors. For all its problems, I’m betting ESPN sees his value, or he wouldn’t be employed this long. It’s irrelevant, I’m guessing he makes more than you and I combined...probably by a lot. He doesn’t need defenders, I’m just pointing out that the draft is kind of a crap shoot.
@@ignotouno523 A draft expert doesn’t mean he’s Nostradamus. It means he’s watched tons of film on every prospect. Anyone can bust and anyone can become a superstar. How else do you predict these things?
Exactly, analysts aren’t future tellers. They watch more film than anyone and give their opinions. Anyone can bust or anyone can be a beast, we don’t know. AKA Tom Brady in 6th
Random dude in his mom's basement critiquing a guy who started his job in his mom's basement is funny.
Mel kiper is one “analyst” I used that word loosely I never take the time out of day to look at his mocks
Hes terrible. Always wrong
If Kiper bad mouths a draft pick, I automatically assume that player is going to be a superstar
Can’t wait to see your mock draft next year and how it compares to Kiper’s post draft.
Honorable mention. People forget that the Colts passed on Dilfer because they just acquired Jim Harbaugh and Kiper said Harbaugh was not a starring QB.
That's one gnarly ass teardrop you photoshopped onto Mahomes' cheek!
I thought it was a sperm cell
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@@joeerose_ Obviously Joey V. is a Faders Fan.
You’re editor is freaking Awesome, I thought mike did it. But now I know! Thx mystery editor, you deserve 50% of this success, because editing is long, hard, and exhausting..
Jeff George could throw the most beautiful deep ball I've ever seen. The guy had a howitzer for an arm. Too bad he was a tad selfish and lacked the work ethic required to cash in on his talent. Just look up his 1999 playoff game vs Dallas... Those deep bombs to Randy Moss were a thing of beauty.
Yeah but moss could make any deep ball look amazing by the way he caught them
The “you never played” argument is so stupid. Did every movie critic act or direct a movie? Book club folks write books? Have you ever graded or evaluated anything that you never were a professional at? SMH hypocrites.
Eli Manning didn't refuse to play for Ernie Accorsi. He refused to play for San Diego and was traded to the Giants whose GM at the time was Ernie Accorsi. This guy ought to get at least this correct.
He told accorsi this during pre draft and still drafted him. 🤷🤷
His track record is probably no worse than an average NFL GM.
Maybe not an average, but definitely the terrible GMs. Plus QB is the hardest position to predict. Sure it looks obvious a few years later, but, players evolve in their careers due to coaching and other factors. I remember seeing Charles Rogers in college and thinking he was an NFL player, then you see young Brady at the Combine he looks out of shape and slow.
No that’s not true but yeah the gms that do not belong in the nfl. Cuz I usually am never wrong I played the game at minor levels like started jr and high school every year I played which means I know the game and I’m no expert. From my playing days but from the attention I pay and the love for the game I have I learned about the game and I am never wrong when I say a guy can’t play he can’t play don’t take too long of watching a player and I know so these gms should be better I think they get nervous and caught up in the hype
@@KTF0 but watch him play and it don’t matter if you got any sense and it should be common then you can see the man could play
I like ole kiper, sounds like a success story to me. It would be next to impossible to predict who all these teams are going to take with their picks. I typically don't argue too much with his big board based off of talent
The commentary about Russell Wilson did not age well. Kiper was right in the long run about him.
Tim Couch is a can't miss, future HOF, Franchise Quarterback.
He was but the expansion browns fucked him over
His career is rating players and providing his take on which players should be taken. The problem with this come draft day is you have 32 GMs that if one picks wildly, then the entire draft day can go offline than what was expected. I really think that Mcshay has been better in his career in rating players, but I think the two do a pretty good job considering. You can't predict that Jamarcus will eat himself out of the league in 2 years, or that Ryan Leaf is mentally unstable.
As you say, there is always a bad GM or 2 that blows up all of the mock drafts by "the experts". Plus, there are the trades that no one was expecting that also completely change the mock drafts. Watching the draft is great. I love watching the players and their family's dreams come true in real time. But, don't pay much attention to mock drafts which are mostly just gossip.
I don’t take anyone’s picks seriously, it’s a guessing game what each team will do, but Kipper made the draft what it is ! He’s earned the respect for his hustle !!
Mel Kipper created the whole hype about the NFL draft. He invented it. Gotta give him credit for that. Yea his picks are wrong but so is many other pundits and GMs.