My impression of fancy hotels in China, is that they are flash when first built, but degrade fairly rapidly due to a combination of almost zero maintenance and poor craftsmanship.
My impression of fancy America is that most of Americans are homeless and drug addictive,as I passed by Berkeley CA and saw many homeless people soaked in weeds smells in the train station .Make sense.
I worked in Shanghai for two years. I used to wear a suit and tie to work, but as soon as I got back to the company apartment in Pudong Liu, after a shower. I would change into polo shirt or T-shirt and shorts. Then off the The Red Lion ex-pats pub in Wéifang Liu. In those two years, I drank a lot of Tsingdao and got extremely good at pool. Thankfully, although the company apartment was basic, the AC was ice-cool.
Last month I stayed in Thailand in a Le Meridian Resort for $80/night which was 5 Stars by any standards and had service quality above everything you will get in Europe or America for double that money. You notice that the Thais actually work very hard to make you feel welcome and comfortable.
Unfortunately, in China, maintenance of buildings stops after they are built. I stayed in a 4 star hotel in Zhuhai and the same phone situation happened to me.
The reason for hotels in China having a Glass to look from the shower to the actual room is so that the guy can make sure while he is taking a shower, the lady of the night does not empty his wallet and run.
Same here. For the last 15+ years I live in the Netherlands, but I was born in the ussr, so I know very well what's going on there too. If we take countries like North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, South Africa etc. out of equation as a special case and agree that no one should live there at all, only Russia would be the worse place to live than China. But those two powers are heading the completely opposite path, while China is notably improving and developing itself, Russia is degrading and hopefully falling apart. Communism is evil, that's enough to say, because each and every country that has or had been contaminated with communism, must either heal or die. China is obviously healing, it still has a long way to go, but it is at least heading the right direction.
@@barmalini Dude, are you okay? USSR hasn't been a thing for almost 30 years, modern Russia is completely different and has literally nothing to do with communism. I'm thinking your comment might have been sarcasm or some trolling attempt, but if not it just makes zero sense and I'm confused at the reasons why you would make all this weird stuff up. But oh well, probably just some trolling.
@@valeriavagapova tell me more about the differences between soviet and post-soviet russia. - Conceptually tere is none. Modern russia is nothing but a maleficient communist russia, minus millions of intellectuals and technical experts who managed to emigrate to the states, Europe or Israel. As the result of such a negative selection russia has became even stupider, greedier, cultureless country than a CCCP had ever been. Today's russia is a god damned place bound to be self-annihilated by mafia clans coalescent with the ruling FSB party, and the inert human substance called russian people will be the main cause and at the same time the victim of the upcomming collapse of the greatest criminal country of the world.
@@fl4shi238 yes... This boggie and the bubble in Springfield, mo. Has .50¢ beer on tap... Natural light... There is a $10 door charge to get to the bar... 12 oz cups. I can get my moneys worth even with a $10 door charge for a college bar.
I know this is old and you guys aren’t even in China any more, but thought I’d chime in anyway. In my 26 years of traveling in China, I have found that there are two levels of star ratings in China, even under Western flag brands. There is the Chinese five star and there is the Western five star. There is a massive difference between the two. Often when the hotel is new, it is indeed a five star experience, but as many have stated in the comments, no maintenance is done after construction is completed in many cases. As the building deteriorates, so does service and everything else, but the star rating doesn’t. The exception is in some of the larger cities that cater exclusively to a Western audience and are under a premium flag. Then they seem to maintain a fairly good level. You will pay a large premium for that though. A true five star in a major city is as expensive as London or Manhattan.
what a nice surprise, the circumstances you are met with once you get upstairs.. typical rotten communist spirit. it doesn't inspire and they feel they can get away with anything. they are not going to stay in a 5-star hotel themselves and it is likely the CCP represses customer reviews and makes them impossible. so they wouldn't feel like people even could complain anywhere. wait.. you said it was (in) a SHERATON ?!
My condolences, ADVChina. I'm staying at a Sheraton hotel right now. It's not five-star, but neither was yours by the looks of it. I truly don't understand China's half ass approach to upkeep. Winston's description of breakfast was hilarious! The cheese platter and "bacon" had me LMAO! Prost, dudes! That was fun.
Maybe that's not a very popular tourist attraction and thus they just go cheap. Popular ones got tidier places. As for upkeep, well, let's say that many of these places might chose to build awesome things to get government support or just to get more stars to brag about. And then, well, the demand is not high enough and they have to go cheap. Also, that bacon is like, well, sure in China we don't have a lot of different types of bacons but, it's just not hard at all to at least buy real bacon XD Those "bacon" can't even fool Chinese people I think XD
It looks like a nice location, but that is definitely not a five star hotel. You would probably pay about $70-$80 (USD) for a room like that in the US. And even then, the room would be nicer. At least the AC and telephone would work properly, and there wouldn't be mold all over the walls.
Folks, I had a similar experience in the Sheraton Xinbei in Changzhou a few times. The first time I went there, it was almost new, the rooms looked nice and everything was fine, other than traffic noise which wasn't too bad given the location of the room. The second time, it was a disaster. The room was so hot, I called the maintenance man not once but twice. He said (like CmIlk) that the room was centrally set and I said if you can't fix it, I am moving out and will demand a refund or I'll write to SPG (the central chain for Sheraton, Westin, Meridien, W, etc) and complain. So the guy scratches his head and makes a few adjustments, which apparently affect the entire floor. The temp went from about 27.5 degrees C to about 24.5, which was still hot and stuffy but not unbearable. Next day it went back to 27.5 degrees, and I moved out. I am also a lifetime gold card member of SPG and got a superficially nice club room but the temp was miles too high, and it was on a major intersection and the entire time I heard the traffic, and that involves constant horn usage, 24 hrs a day. If they had bothered to double glaze the rooms that could have been avoided. Just to comment on the chains. The chains rarely own the individual hotel - they are operators, not owners. Sometimes the hotel is directly owned, particularly Hilton, but by far the most common practice is that they are privately owned and they sign up with a chain for a management contract, using their branding and marketing systems. I have stayed in hundreds of Sheratons and other SPG properties and they are generally fine. I could also give you examples of disasters with other chains, though I do agree with one commentator that in Asia, Hilton are generally more consistent. But that isn't a blanket rule. As a general rule in China, I find that the chain hotels in the second tier cities are not as good as in Shanghai for example, but even then, you need to check the place out (I use TripAdvisor) before booking. I also try and find hotels that are either new, or else have recently been renovated. The comments about no maintenance are also partly true in the rest of Asia, and the locals often don't understand why you make a fuss about paint peeling off, stained and dirty carpets, or whatever.
Marriott properties in China in general are better than SPG, but there are not as many as SPGs and Hiltons. Chinese people, especially those above 40s, do not like AC to be turned below 26 and I fucking hate that. The domestic flights sometimes get intolerably hot and there are still people asking for blankets. Same apply to drinks, too. Many places will serve your soda and beer in room temperature.
They (Sheraton execs) know damn well how their Chinese hotels are. It's the norm in China, so they're not going to do anything about it. It's all about perception. If that is what a 5 star hotel is normally like in China, then that's just how it is. What if there was a country that thought that a U.S. 5 star hotel was crap? That's what the U.S. feels is a 5 star hotel, so they're not going to change the 5 star hotels in the U.S. to conform to the ones in that country.
This hurt Sheraton's reputation, Sheraton is a world wide company, unless this is a fake Sheraton, I think it is possible, because China can counterfeit almost any thing, may be Sheraton already pulled out and this hotel's owner simply kept their name.
iHateRonanKeating WTF, that's NOT a norm in China. In most cities, this hotel can only be ranked 4 star at best. Considered Huizhou is a relatively backward city in China (ranked 62 in China), in most major cities 5 star hotels should be much better than this one. Also, Sheraton is not really a luxury hotel chain in China, Hilton will be much better.
I finished traveling in China with my mother. We stayed in "4 Star" or "5 Star" establishments. Winston's experience with the awful, undercooked bacon at breakfast was exactly spot on. AC in these premier establishments was hit or miss. Even in Shanghai.
I.M. Pei, one of the most famous Chinese American architects who designed the BOChina tower in HK, also designed a five star hotel near Beijing not long after China opened up to the West. He wrote about his frustrations in his autobiography. Particularly when he went back to see it a year or two later, it hadn't been very well maintained, to say the least. If you want to vlog on this subject, then you need to go stay in the White Swan in GZ. I visited it in 1985, though we stayed in a guest house across the street. It was like an island of luxury, then even with its own self contained power generation facility. It's always been maintained to an international five star standard and was one of the first five star hotels in China. In the 1980s, local Chinese weren't allowed inside the White Swan. How times have changed. Now the locals are the ones with the money.
Just finished watching "Conquering Southern China". Thank you for the excellent adventure. I did the circumference of Taiwan in '92 before there were actual roads in many places. We were on dirt trails for a good portion. It was the hardest I've ever worked to have some of the best time of my life.
They do not bother about maintenance for obvious reasons. There is no artisan spirit in present day China, all is about quick bucks and branding huyou (忽悠)from consumers.... Shenzhen is alreading degrading from a mere 30 over years of development. The declining rate is astonishing! This is what u get when everything are monopolized by a government body who is afraid of open market and fair trade competition.... The super rich are already leaving, cos' they know they can get the real-world standard of qualities and services beyond the WALL... ADVC guys, don't try to alert em' to make things better, they won't give a hoot....
I feel if a westerner, or anyone non Asian for that matter, wants to experience Asian culture, India, Hong Kong, and Japan are the best options, India being the cheaper option. Japan is modern and capitalistic, so you know you're in one of the best places in terms of comfort. They have a lot of tradition too, so it's definitely going to be a great holiday. India has lesser technological development, but you get to see so many cultures there. Moreover, if you stick to big cities and 4-5star hotels, you'll have a great time here too. The biggest perk in India is they practically have most of the first world country's amenities for a fraction of the cost and they speak decent English there. Hong Kong is a good option again, same as Japan but culturally different and hong kong being better than japan cuz they speak English there too.
Vietnam is very cheap, amazing and quite comfortable don't leave it out. India is... just ,well...India. Its a bit like marmite, I loved it but plenty of people hate it. Cant speak for Japan or Hong Kong. Hopefully ill go to Japan this year though so ill know better then.
Great stuff guys. I really like the work you two put into your videos. It's certainly given me a better impression of China than anything I've ever seen or was taught back in school (US), and I'm almost 50 years old so that's a few years now. I like that your videos are frank conversations of life in China, and about the people of China. Most westerners just focus on the totalitarian government of China and its suppression of the Chinese dissidents, while they ignore the facts of daily life for the average Chinese citizen. You two make videos that don't make China out to be a utopia, but focus on the richness of Chinese culture, the lives of regular people, and you also bring to light the negatives that are a part of Chinese culture as well (The lack of caring about public property, the sometimes over the top nationalism, scams, etc.) without making it a preachy political bullshit opinion piece. Sorry this is so long of a comment. I hope you read it because I want you to know how much I appreciate the work you guys do. I'll end by saying fuck all those comments by people with their glass hearts and their shitty comments. Keep making videos. *:-)*
lol, too much shit in this tiny brain of this DaivdRsaid, you don't represent anyone or any race, and stop label other people, only you, and your very nature is disgusting and narrow minded, please stop disgust people with your zero IQ dumb comment
I've had a very similar experience in Beijing at a Holiday Inn. I know that's a budget hotel but it paled in comparison to its U.S. counterpart. I've also stayed at a Marriot and Four Points in Suzhou and those were actually very nice.
Ha ha _ great video! I had a company put me up at a five star hotel in London Mayfair. It was appalling! I would have got a far better experience at a three or four star that was putting in a bit of effort and not charging a fortune for every little extra - there were absolutely NO extras apart from the usual bathroom toiletries. No free tea/coffee making in the room. There was even an inflated charge for a jug of drinking water. Andy the service was super snooty - maybe I shouldn't have arrived with a backpack. A three/four star is a much better deal - more honest, better service and probably a more amiable clientele. And more likely to have freebies like a chocolate on the pillow and free coffee/tea/water. Totally enjoyed the video though guys, so it was definitely worth your money.
Ok what the fudge is this? The video title and description is translated in to Finnish... I am going to assume it is done automatically? And it is fairly decent translation.
I went to a 5star in Shanghai cities center around 100uss each night and was awesome. The room bigger than my usa 1br apartment and the service was amazing. Much more beautiful than that room, Japanese smart toilet, livingroom and bedroom, shower box and bathrub etc
That has got to be the worst Sheraton Hotel that we have seen except for Hawaii and that was a bit yuk have stayed in a few in Malaysia and Singapore very good so so sad thar you didn't get to stay in something really nice for your ***** stay 😟. Stay safe and enjoy great video in again
The Sheriton in Poipu Beach on Kauai was FANTASTIC!!! I stayed there 3 days and never wanted to leave. Every afternoon at 5 PM they had hula dancers perform and served free Mai Tai's. The main restaurant had absolutely wonderful meals. They had a private beach and a huge pool. I'll never forget those 3 days. Pure paradise.
Ummmm I'm Chinese myself, I've got no idea how I got to this video but I don't think this is a 5 star hotel. By looking at the price you know it's 3 star or less. Or is it a fake "5 star" in one of those tiny lil towns?
It could be a 4 star hotel. However, if so, then they were LIED to about the hotel's rating in the brochure, or by travel agent, or the hotel's booking/webpage, which is also a Chinese trait (misrepresentation)
Funny to see two foreigners cheated by this notorious hotel they charge you maybe 3-4 times fare than domestic visitors who book it on some stupid websites. Five star hotel in Shenzhen, and doesn't get an working air conditioner Cooooool. You lucky.
Here in south east asia, 1 of the first lesson in history, evil caucasian cheated on innocent native, again and again, they would send a criminal post as a peace loving priest, make a fuss and get himself kill, so the fleet of gunboat can bombard city and kill thousands, causasian L-O-V-E to cheat, luckily for me i not stupid to fall for those stupid story.
DavidRsaid You have your own opinion and doesn't intrigue any hatred from major Chinese community. In China there is a joke says, China should issue TWO version of personal passport, on for CHinese, one for Fujian Province. In USA, Cheating Greencard and Nationality among all Chinese, mainly is from 3 Counties, Lianjiang, Chnagle, and Fuqing County of Fujian Province, So of course most Chinese don't mind you blame them and call them bastard. Of course a foreigner doesn't know this in a deeper extent. They are bastard, yes, nothing strange.
I definitely sure they only focus on the crap things about China. There are tons of five-star hotels that are more attractive than this one. It has been common sense that the quality of high end hotels in China are much better than that of in US. If u travel both places frequently, u will know it.
I have travelled in China and all across America and I have only come across one high end hotel in China that comes anywhere near the high end American hotels. The last time I was in Manhatten we stayed at the Marriott on Lexington Avenue close to 49th street, far superior to the Marriott we have in Nanning. China really has no idea what a five star hotel should be.
I used to watch this channel for more insight about my home country. But now, it's the vibe between you guys that keeps the channel vibrant. Much like Top Gear/Gran Tour. Even if you guys one day decide to leave this place behind, as long as you stick together, I am pretty sure this channel will keep coping. Sad that prozzie is going away tho.
I stayed in a Chinese hotel, the extractor fan in the bathroom was a disgrace. It was hanging from the wall with wiring exposed. There was evidence that botched attempts had been made fix it with mastic in the past. I photographed it to show the reception desk. They showed complete indifference. The Chinese may well be building at an alarming rate but the quality is bad.
Hi ADVchina particularly SerpentZA and C-Milk, want to say a big thanks for creating such interesting channel! I am a Malaysian Chinese and have never been to China. I find your insights into China from foreign expats' perspectives are really interesting and I can't help but keep binge watching you channel. I know Mandarin/Cantonese/Fujian but I still find the differences between mainland Chinese and Malaysian/Singaporean Chinese amusing. Keep doing what you do mates! Love you guys.
substandard repairmen are not just in China. I had to have my phone jack (I'm still landlined) repaired and the guy came but fixed the jack in the back of the apartment, the one we don't use; he got angry when I pointed out he was fixing the wrong jack and refused to fix the right one (we finally had a friend come and do it). When the freezer in our refrigerator, only a couple years old, stopped working, we had the repair guy for that manufacturer come in with an attitude since he had to deal with a female instead of a male, spent hours looking and fiddling, then replaced the Freon thingy and adjusted the legs saying that the reason why the freezer had stopped working was because the door wasn't completely closing and sealing out the kitchen air. Problem was he made the legs in the front of the frig lower than the back legs so the door now swings open and you have to slam and then make sure the door has suctioned tight. Even to me, I pointed out that the front legs ought to be higher than the back so gravity helps make the door want to close all the time but the guy gave me the "if you weren't such an idiot I'd grace you with a reply" look. I needed to get on with my life so I just had him leave. Both the frig and the freezer doors always swing wide open when you open them, even if only a crack, and what the hell was that with replacing the Freon part except to charge a few hundred dollars for something that didn't need to be done? Our mailman too is Chinese (all these service guys have been late middle aged non-American born Chinese) and he tends to shove a bundle of those junk mail ad newspapers in our mail box to get rid of them, and if he delivers a package he'll phone but won't say squat, just heavy breathes for a few seconds. The work ethic is so horribly bad.
I bet this must be a franchise. I can't believe any western managed 5 star hotel would be in such a bad condition. Still sucks that Sheraton is ruining their reputation by letting such places use their name. As a general rule for tourism places ( but actually applies to many things here ), if it's " for chinese by chinese " you can almost be certain to get a very bad value money. Other countries in Asia all offer a MUCH better experience because tourism there is done "by locals for westerners". So they keep things up to western standard. In China 99% of the tourism is domestic.
started binge watching about a week ago. i am now up to the latest...all of this is really good stuff.and in my case I really get the sense of what modern china can be like.,,i will try to sub up and share to as many as i can ...great footage ,great narrative,excellant stuff?thanks guys keep the rubber side down.
When you guys pull up the lid of that fancy, shiny, warming tray I was expecting to see some type of delicacy underneath, but all of the sudden... peanuts!... I'm dying... I can't stop laughing ;)...
A family relative of mine who's part of Human Resource Hospitality Association in Shanghai (can't remember the name exactly tbh) once told me Sheraton hotel's management was failing and falling apart. They can not compete with domestic Chinese brands anymore because Chinese hotels are much newer, much more luxurious and their target market aim not only at international /domestic business travelers but most importantly - Chinese couples. They are big percentage of the population, willing to spend money and they are the reason why some of those features in the hotel room exist as you see in the video. A quick tip for finding great hotels when traveling in China is to simply ask the locals (preferably local friend, if not find someone in luxurious shopping mall) which hotel they know has recently constructed and secondly which has the best hospitality.
Putting the aircon down to 5 degrees in a humid environment is asking for trouble. The cooling coils will freeze the water in the air and potentially block airflow through the coils so your cooling is reduced drastically.. As a result no aircon!! Don't go lower than about 18 degrees and as it cools down drag it up to 21-22.
Coming from a professional engineer in the air conditioning industry, there are policies to limit the set point and reduce energy. The general consensus (applies to western countries and eastern countries) is that unless there are 3 or more complaints, nothing will happen. They will tell you they will do something about it, but that's just purely psychological. Unless they get a certain amount of complaints nothing will be done. As a tip, keep complaining and they will change it.
Sorry to tell you that, International Sheraton experience was ended in the year 2015 and all members new and old got there membership cards to go Four Points by Sheraton from 2015 so, we Sheraton members are not allowed to go to Sheraton
My impressions of 5-star hotels in the US are exactly the same: they really suck. No free parking, no free breakfast, no free slippers or razor, no nothing. Even when I happen to hold a platinum membership card.
Thing is, there isn't an international quality standard for hotel star ratings and they differ depending on local quality of life, location, et cetera. For example, a 5 star hotel in a remote city is probably more in line with a 3-4 star hotel in bigger cities. Comparing a 5 star hotel in a city like Shanghai to a 5 star hotel in a 2nd - 3nd line city in China will show the difference despite being the same 'star level'.
In China, 5 star hotels are basically equivalent to US 4 star hotels unless it is a ritz carlton, kempenski, or park hyatt, etc. And also things turn to fall apart because of either poor contruction or hot and humid weather especially in southern China.
That's like 4 star standards, if you want a real 5 star standard hotel, check out Shanghai 5 star hotels. They can go up for 2000 RMB (about $400) but the shower, food standards, air conditioning, room service, are all top-notch.
A family member who's been in the Real Estate biz for a few decades now told me once that homes inhabited by chinese people are usually a tough sell. I guess I know why now. They don't seem to want to invest in maintenance, for some reason. Upkeep on buildings is an expensive proposition so I guess I can see where the chinese are coming from.
this hotel is a sheraton which supposed to be one of the most premium hotel chains in the world. I'm seriously shocked to see such shabby service at such a place.
Recently I stayed in the new Hilton in Dali. The glass and wood in the room were covered in accidental splashes of white paint. Part of the ceiling plaster fell down outside my room. The cleaners swept it up, guess that was job done cos nobody came to patch it up while I was there. At the buffet, water was dripping from the ceiling onto the floor, just missing some of the food. In the gardens, most of the mosiac floor pieces were missing in the pool and the lawns outside the ground floor rooms looked like they hadn't been cut for many months. They get away with it because most Chinese people have haven't been abroad much, and either don't notice or are not worried about these small details. Hilton had good service and food though to be fair, Sheraton looks like they can't even manage that.
I've done quite a bit of traveling in China and can confidently say that local hotels are much nicer than western chain hotels. I've stayed in both and a 3 star local hotel is so much nicer than any 5 star chain hotel. Chain hotels in China ride off the name alone because most tourists book accommodation online before they go and tend to pick familiar named hotels. Local hotels deal with both tourists and Chinese travellers/ businessmen so they have to make sure they are providing a great place so they get repeat service.
"My impression of fancy hotels in China, is that they are flash when first built, but degrade fairly rapidly due to a combination of almost zero maintenance and poor craftsmanship." Good analysis, you can say that about everything that china makes.
I have heard that for the last 2 or 3 years, China has a 8-star hotel rating system. So, a 5-star is like a 3 1/2 -star elsewhere. Still, there is no excuse for the walls looking the way the Sheraton looks there.
I don't know how they rate stars in the rest of the world, but in the US it is based on amenities, not quality. Admittedly I worked in management at a Sheraton for three years and we never could have gotten away with such poor quality. Marriott should yank that flag, it's embarrassing.
I'd recommend the Shangrila Hotel chain in China. As near as a 5 star hotel and service in China as you'll get. The food is definitely better 'much much' than that hotel there. Things generally aren't broken in the rooms, but standards and prices do differ depending on location. As for the Sheraton in Huizhou, I think you're paying for the view and that nice balcony.
My impression of fancy hotels in China, is that they are flash when first built, but degrade fairly rapidly due to a combination of almost zero maintenance and poor craftsmanship.
DavidRsaid That's something totally different.
True China reallyyy sucks. Thanks for posting realistic videos.
thats communism
My impression of fancy America is that most of Americans are homeless and drug addictive,as I passed by Berkeley CA and saw many homeless people soaked in weeds smells in the train station .Make sense.
DavidRsaid . I think flying into other countries exposes any domestic airline maintenance to foreign scrutiny and oversight.
Even their hotels are knockoffs
I love that Serpentza wears a suit through filthy backstreets, yet wears a tshirt in a "5 star" hotel/restaurant. Keep it up guys.
wonkeywoo24 haha, fantastic observation.
Lmao
Winston is such a troll.
I worked in Shanghai for two years. I used to wear a suit and tie to work, but as soon as I got back to the company apartment in Pudong Liu, after a shower. I would change into polo shirt or T-shirt and shorts. Then off the The Red Lion ex-pats pub in Wéifang Liu. In those two years, I drank a lot of Tsingdao and got extremely good at pool.
Thankfully, although the company apartment was basic, the AC was ice-cool.
Last month I stayed in Thailand in a Le Meridian Resort for $80/night which was 5 Stars by any standards and had service quality above everything you will get in Europe or America for double that money. You notice that the Thais actually work very hard to make you feel welcome and comfortable.
This....video....is...about...China
80 dollars in Thailand is a lot of money.
South East Asian Hotels are very nice, best of the best
I've been to crappy hotels in Europe and US that cost twice the price than luxury hotels in SE asia.
That's because Thai hotels employ a lot of Filipinos.
Unfortunately, in China, maintenance of buildings stops after they are built. I stayed in a 4 star hotel in Zhuhai and the same phone situation happened to me.
I was born in Zhuhai 😂
The reason for hotels in China having a Glass to look from the shower to the actual room is so that the guy can make sure while he is taking a shower, the lady of the night does not empty his wallet and run.
Just take your wallet in the bathroom with you. Problem solved. It doesn't take an Einstein to not get scammed by some desperate hooker.
I do i easier, I just take the girl into the shower with me. Works best. no window needed.
another honest white male!
It is everywhere not just China. Seems to be a standard design for hotels.
Perry Wang please self-deport to wakanda
Clearly you should've gone to 7 star hotel!
lol
In china the hotel rates you
I would have said 15 or 30.
editrepublic Yes, because a clean room is faaaar too much to ask for.
editrepublic You do understand the original comment was a joke, right?
Every video I watch of China just makes me thank the Lord I don't live there.
Dont go. Chinese will eat u alive.
Which lord?
Same here. For the last 15+ years I live in the Netherlands, but I was born in the ussr, so I know very well what's going on there too.
If we take countries like North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, South Africa etc. out of equation as a special case and agree that no one should live there at all, only Russia would be the worse place to live than China. But those two powers are heading the completely opposite path, while China is notably improving and developing itself, Russia is degrading and hopefully falling apart.
Communism is evil, that's enough to say, because each and every country that has or had been contaminated with communism, must either heal or die. China is obviously healing, it still has a long way to go, but it is at least heading the right direction.
@@barmalini Dude, are you okay? USSR hasn't been a thing for almost 30 years, modern Russia is completely different and has literally nothing to do with communism. I'm thinking your comment might have been sarcasm or some trolling attempt, but if not it just makes zero sense and I'm confused at the reasons why you would make all this weird stuff up. But oh well, probably just some trolling.
@@valeriavagapova tell me more about the differences between soviet and post-soviet russia. - Conceptually tere is none.
Modern russia is nothing but a maleficient communist russia, minus millions of intellectuals and technical experts who managed to emigrate to the states, Europe or Israel. As the result of such a negative selection russia has became even stupider, greedier, cultureless country than a CCCP had ever been. Today's russia is a god damned place bound to be self-annihilated by mafia clans coalescent with the ruling FSB party, and the inert human substance called russian people will be the main cause and at the same time the victim of the upcomming collapse of the greatest criminal country of the world.
You didn't take into consideration the International Star Conversion rate: 1 western Star = 0.2 Chinese Stars. So that Hotel was really 1 Star Hotel
You mean 1 chinese star is 0,2 western stars.
@Eddard Liebber - You better check your maths there boy :)
I think you meant 0.2 Western Star = 1 Chinese Star LOL
Regardless of the bad math it doesnt matter its a fecking Sheraton I live in south America and the local Sheraton is absolutely beautiful
@@SungazerDNB is that why Chinese buildings and hotels look and operate like shit
@@PrideDefiler Chinese hotels are garbage
"Never had an 8 $ beer." And I'm like: That's normal for a beer. "I think I've had an 8 dollar beer in Norway." I'm Norwegian.
Damn it's only 2 dollars for a beer in Mexico damn
@@gavriloprincip9634 .50¢ in USA
@@Tihrig not in a bar.
@@fl4shi238 yes... This boggie and the bubble in Springfield, mo. Has .50¢ beer on tap... Natural light... There is a $10 door charge to get to the bar... 12 oz cups. I can get my moneys worth even with a $10 door charge for a college bar.
@@fl4shi238 $4 for anything not shit but I live in beer snob land Wisconsin
I know this is old and you guys aren’t even in China any more, but thought I’d chime in anyway. In my 26 years of traveling in China, I have found that there are two levels of star ratings in China, even under Western flag brands. There is the Chinese five star and there is the Western five star. There is a massive difference between the two. Often when the hotel is new, it is indeed a five star experience, but as many have stated in the comments, no maintenance is done after construction is completed in many cases. As the building deteriorates, so does service and everything else, but the star rating doesn’t. The exception is in some of the larger cities that cater exclusively to a Western audience and are under a premium flag. Then they seem to maintain a fairly good level. You will pay a large premium for that though. A true five star in a major city is as expensive as London or Manhattan.
Can’t believe you guys were actually leaning on that balcony rail at the end there , death wise bro !
I have a feeling Cmilky was peeping at Serpentza while he was in the bath.
+Hoochi Koochi hope not
Hahhaha that and when Sepentza was sleeping
I know this wasn't your intention but your videos have convinced me to never visit china lol
what a nice surprise, the circumstances you are met with once you get upstairs.. typical rotten communist spirit. it doesn't inspire and they feel they can get away with anything. they are not going to stay in a 5-star hotel themselves and it is likely the CCP represses customer reviews and makes them impossible. so they wouldn't feel like people even could complain anywhere. wait.. you said it was (in) a SHERATON ?!
My condolences, ADVChina. I'm staying at a Sheraton hotel right now. It's not five-star, but neither was yours by the looks of it. I truly don't understand China's half ass approach to upkeep. Winston's description of breakfast was hilarious! The cheese platter and "bacon" had me LMAO! Prost, dudes! That was fun.
Maybe that's not a very popular tourist attraction and thus they just go cheap. Popular ones got tidier places. As for upkeep, well, let's say that many of these places might chose to build awesome things to get government support or just to get more stars to brag about. And then, well, the demand is not high enough and they have to go cheap.
Also, that bacon is like, well, sure in China we don't have a lot of different types of bacons but, it's just not hard at all to at least buy real bacon XD Those "bacon" can't even fool Chinese people I think XD
野龍 nope, overseas ALL Sheraton hotels are well kept. Only Chinese management does stuff like this.
its called communism no private property so no incentive to maintain it
It looks like a nice location, but that is definitely not a five star hotel. You would probably pay about $70-$80 (USD) for a room like that in the US. And even then, the room would be nicer. At least the AC and telephone would work properly, and there wouldn't be mold all over the walls.
Folks, I had a similar experience in the Sheraton Xinbei in Changzhou a few times. The first time I went there, it was almost new, the rooms looked nice and everything was fine, other than traffic noise which wasn't too bad given the location of the room. The second time, it was a disaster. The room was so hot, I called the maintenance man not once but twice. He said (like CmIlk) that the room was centrally set and I said if you can't fix it, I am moving out and will demand a refund or I'll write to SPG (the central chain for Sheraton, Westin, Meridien, W, etc) and complain.
So the guy scratches his head and makes a few adjustments, which apparently affect the entire floor. The temp went from about 27.5 degrees C to about 24.5, which was still hot and stuffy but not unbearable. Next day it went back to 27.5 degrees, and I moved out. I am also a lifetime gold card member of SPG and got a superficially nice club room but the temp was miles too high, and it was on a major intersection and the entire time I heard the traffic, and that involves constant horn usage, 24 hrs a day. If they had bothered to double glaze the rooms that could have been avoided.
Just to comment on the chains. The chains rarely own the individual hotel - they are operators, not owners. Sometimes the hotel is directly owned, particularly Hilton, but by far the most common practice is that they are privately owned and they sign up with a chain for a management contract, using their branding and marketing systems.
I have stayed in hundreds of Sheratons and other SPG properties and they are generally fine. I could also give you examples of disasters with other chains, though I do agree with one commentator that in Asia, Hilton are generally more consistent. But that isn't a blanket rule.
As a general rule in China, I find that the chain hotels in the second tier cities are not as good as in Shanghai for example, but even then, you need to check the place out (I use TripAdvisor) before booking. I also try and find hotels that are either new, or else have recently been renovated.
The comments about no maintenance are also partly true in the rest of Asia, and the locals often don't understand why you make a fuss about paint peeling off, stained and dirty carpets, or whatever.
Marriott properties in China in general are better than SPG, but there are not as many as SPGs and Hiltons.
Chinese people, especially those above 40s, do not like AC to be turned below 26 and I fucking hate that. The domestic flights sometimes get intolerably hot and there are still people asking for blankets.
Same apply to drinks, too. Many places will serve your soda and beer in room temperature.
Nice video, you guys really got into it! And the breakfast buffet rant was gold
Sheraton should take their name out of this hotel, or change the management.
Frank Liu Agreed. If I were a Sheraton exec and saw this, I'd throw a fit.
They (Sheraton execs) know damn well how their Chinese hotels are. It's the norm in China, so they're not going to do anything about it. It's all about perception. If that is what a 5 star hotel is normally like in China, then that's just how it is. What if there was a country that thought that a U.S. 5 star hotel was crap? That's what the U.S. feels is a 5 star hotel, so they're not going to change the 5 star hotels in the U.S. to conform to the ones in that country.
This hurt Sheraton's reputation, Sheraton is a world wide company, unless this is a fake Sheraton, I think it is possible, because China can counterfeit almost any thing, may be Sheraton already pulled out and this hotel's owner simply kept their name.
iHateRonanKeating WTF, that's NOT a norm in China. In most cities, this hotel can only be ranked 4 star at best. Considered Huizhou is a relatively backward city in China (ranked 62 in China), in most major cities 5 star hotels should be much better than this one. Also, Sheraton is not really a luxury hotel chain in China, Hilton will be much better.
62/680 cities, but where did you get that #62 from? Ranked based on what?
I finished traveling in China with my mother. We stayed in "4 Star" or "5 Star" establishments. Winston's experience with the awful, undercooked bacon at breakfast was exactly spot on. AC in these premier establishments was hit or miss. Even in Shanghai.
When he mentioned the AC, I instantly remembered about 99% of the hotels I stayed at in China having had inadequate AC issues.
Gordon Ramsay
Should test that hotel
He'll nuke the place
Reviewing the breakfast with good cop C-Milk and bad cop Winston
I.M. Pei, one of the most famous Chinese American architects who designed the BOChina tower in HK, also designed a five star hotel near Beijing not long after China opened up to the West. He wrote about his frustrations in his autobiography. Particularly when he went back to see it a year or two later, it hadn't been very well maintained, to say the least. If you want to vlog on this subject, then you need to go stay in the White Swan in GZ. I visited it in 1985, though we stayed in a guest house across the street. It was like an island of luxury, then even with its own self contained power generation facility. It's always been maintained to an international five star standard and was one of the first five star hotels in China. In the 1980s, local Chinese weren't allowed inside the White Swan. How times have changed. Now the locals are the ones with the money.
2.5 stars is what I'd give it. The half of a star is for the food.
I'd say 0.5 star for having a bathtub and a balcony, while being worse in most aspects than no star hotels and motels.
DroidTech OK man, I can't back you Up on that...
Love u guys! I've no desire to go to China....and now I've less. Take care. Stay safe.
Gladys Alicea
This might sound stupid now that you have a bad impression, but China is one hell of a mixed bag, just visit the right places.
It's a pity that everyone can show us the wrong places to go but no one is showing the good places.
Gilf
DONT GO TO CHINA
Just finished watching "Conquering Southern China". Thank you for the excellent adventure.
I did the circumference of Taiwan in '92 before there were actual roads in many places. We were on dirt trails for a good portion. It was the hardest I've ever worked to have some of the best time of my life.
They do not bother about maintenance for obvious reasons. There is no artisan spirit in present day China, all is about quick bucks and branding huyou (忽悠)from consumers.... Shenzhen is alreading degrading from a mere 30 over years of development. The declining rate is astonishing! This is what u get when everything are monopolized by a government body who is afraid of open market and fair trade competition.... The super rich are already leaving, cos' they know they can get the real-world standard of qualities and services beyond the WALL... ADVC guys, don't try to alert em' to make things better, they won't give a hoot....
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Somehow watching you complain about things is very relaxing, thank you
8:13 so TRUE!!!! It's so annoying when traveling with friends and share room, it's like the room is designed for kinky couples.
I feel if a westerner, or anyone non Asian for that matter, wants to experience Asian culture, India, Hong Kong, and Japan are the best options, India being the cheaper option. Japan is modern and capitalistic, so you know you're in one of the best places in terms of comfort. They have a lot of tradition too, so it's definitely going to be a great holiday. India has lesser technological development, but you get to see so many cultures there. Moreover, if you stick to big cities and 4-5star hotels, you'll have a great time here too. The biggest perk in India is they practically have most of the first world country's amenities for a fraction of the cost and they speak decent English there. Hong Kong is a good option again, same as Japan but culturally different and hong kong being better than japan cuz they speak English there too.
I'm Someone wait for the CCP trolls to abuse you
Vietnam is very cheap, amazing and quite comfortable don't leave it out. India is... just ,well...India. Its a bit like marmite, I loved it but plenty of people hate it. Cant speak for Japan or Hong Kong. Hopefully ill go to Japan this year though so ill know better then.
I'm Someone I agree, and Taiwan for traditional Chinese, as they took a lot there before the Chicoms could destroy it.
Vietnam? Thailand? South Korea?
Taiwan is fantastic. I sell it to people by saying it takes everyone right about china but applies Japanese standards to therm!
Its called the China experience 😂
need to ask when they were given their 5 star, I'm thinking 25 years ago
You should complain to Sheraton Headquarters, hope they see this and do a surprise inspection on that property
Great stuff guys. I really like the work you two put into your videos. It's certainly given me a better impression of China than anything I've ever seen or was taught back in school (US), and I'm almost 50 years old so that's a few years now. I like that your videos are frank conversations of life in China, and about the people of China. Most westerners just focus on the totalitarian government of China and its suppression of the Chinese dissidents, while they ignore the facts of daily life for the average Chinese citizen. You two make videos that don't make China out to be a utopia, but focus on the richness of Chinese culture, the lives of regular people, and you also bring to light the negatives that are a part of Chinese culture as well (The lack of caring about public property, the sometimes over the top nationalism, scams, etc.) without making it a preachy political bullshit opinion piece. Sorry this is so long of a comment. I hope you read it because I want you to know how much I appreciate the work you guys do. I'll end by saying fuck all those comments by people with their glass hearts and their shitty comments. Keep making videos. *:-)*
It's really disgusting. You checked into a fake five star hotel. This hotel can't even reach one star standard.
+DavidRsaid Sheraton Hotel is an American brand. The Chinese government should clamp down on such fraudulent American hotels.
+DavidRsaid From the history of the last four hundred years, the Anglo Saxons are aggressive, deceptive, predatory, rapacious, and cruel.
lol, too much shit in this tiny brain of this DaivdRsaid, you don't represent anyone or any race, and stop label other people, only you, and your very nature is disgusting and narrow minded, please stop disgust people with your zero IQ dumb comment
I've had a very similar experience in Beijing at a Holiday Inn. I know that's a budget hotel but it paled in comparison to its U.S. counterpart. I've also stayed at a Marriot and Four Points in Suzhou and those were actually very nice.
Cheap hotel, expensive food!
Thought the biggest disappointment for C-Milk was finding out he could never grow a glorious beard.
I really thought china would be cool right up until I visited. All my interest totally dried up after I stayed two months there.
Why what happened? Infrastructure is good there
Enjoy your content. Keep uploading :)
Alright the N7 jacket scores you some points
Sounds like a case of "mei banfa" ("can't be helped") - yay, I used your phrase! :)
Cheers from New Zealand!
3:55 "in azia" means "in heartburn" in portuguese :´)
Ha ha _ great video! I had a company put me up at a five star hotel in London Mayfair. It was appalling! I would have got a far better experience at a three or four star that was putting in a bit of effort and not charging a fortune for every little extra - there were absolutely NO extras apart from the usual bathroom toiletries. No free tea/coffee making in the room. There was even an inflated charge for a jug of drinking water. Andy the service was super snooty - maybe I shouldn't have arrived with a backpack. A three/four star is a much better deal - more honest, better service and probably a more amiable clientele. And more likely to have freebies like a chocolate on the pillow and free coffee/tea/water. Totally enjoyed the video though guys, so it was definitely worth your money.
Protip- go to front desk; demand new room.
Man! You guys have been in the Eastern Hemisphere for waaaaaaay too long!
When I went to Shanghai I stayed at the Howard Johnson at I would give it 5 stars.
schönes paulaner weizenbier for winston
Ok what the fudge is this? The video title and description is translated in to Finnish... I am going to assume it is done automatically? And it is fairly decent translation.
You're probably using a VPN?
@@georgegonzalez2476 Naw, I live in Finland, I was just wondering why did it do the "auto translate" thing.
3:50 OMG he's wearing at t-shirt
I went to a 5star in Shanghai cities center around 100uss each night and was awesome. The room bigger than my usa 1br apartment and the service was amazing. Much more beautiful than that room, Japanese smart toilet, livingroom and bedroom, shower box and bathrub etc
Sweaty cheese.
That has got to be the worst Sheraton Hotel that we have seen except for Hawaii and that was a bit yuk have stayed in a few in Malaysia and Singapore very good so so sad thar you didn't get to stay in something really nice for your ***** stay 😟. Stay safe and enjoy great video in again
Bene C which sheraton in Hawaii?
ahh dude.. believe me when i say that i have worked a sheraton hotel before (in nyc of all places). STAY AWAY.
The Sheriton in Poipu Beach on Kauai was FANTASTIC!!! I stayed there 3 days and never wanted to leave. Every afternoon at 5 PM they had hula dancers perform and served free Mai Tai's. The main restaurant had absolutely wonderful meals. They had a private beach and a huge pool. I'll never forget those 3 days. Pure paradise.
@@joelscb The Sheratons on Waikiki Beach and the one facing Hong Kong harbour are fantastic.
I've stayed in a sheraton in Pretoria and Abu Dhabi and visited one in Shanghai, and all of them weren't up to 5 star standard
Paulaner Hefe is one of my favorite beers! I can't imagine it with Thai food though. You wouldn't taste it over the burn.
Ummmm
I'm Chinese myself, I've got no idea how I got to this video but I don't think this is a 5 star hotel. By looking at the price you know it's 3 star or less. Or is it a fake "5 star" in one of those tiny lil towns?
神仙魚 Eeeella yea same, the 5 star hotel I went to in 上海 was pretty damm good
It could be a 4 star hotel. However, if so, then they were LIED to about the hotel's rating in the brochure, or by travel agent, or the hotel's booking/webpage, which is also a Chinese trait (misrepresentation)
这两人笑死人,你预定酒店前请查查那个评论看怎样才预订吧,你们自己不做功课,肯定有好的hotel吧。
Li Li 他们就想挑刺 满足无知西方人的虚荣高高在上感
I don't give a S**t about China, but I am so intrigued by all your videos! Keep up the great work!
AnarchoHumanism same
Do you know why it's necessary to make the bathroom visible to the room? It's important actually.
Prevent prostitute from stealing your money.
Take your wallet in the bathroom with you. Why didn't the Han Chinese think of that?
It's perfectly okay to take the wallet, but not that good to take the laptop or suitcases.
I owe you dad a condom
Does everybody who travels get a prostitute? Am I missing out?
Funny to see two foreigners cheated by this notorious hotel they charge you maybe 3-4 times fare than domestic visitors who book it on some stupid websites. Five star hotel in Shenzhen, and doesn't get an working air conditioner Cooooool. You lucky.
Still not worse than arrogant "freedom fighters". lol
Here in south east asia, 1 of the first lesson in history, evil caucasian cheated on innocent native, again and again, they would send a criminal post as a peace loving priest, make a fuss and get himself kill, so the fleet of gunboat can bombard city and kill thousands, causasian L-O-V-E to cheat, luckily for me i not stupid to fall for those stupid story.
DavidRsaid You have your own opinion and doesn't intrigue any hatred from major Chinese community. In China there is a joke says, China should issue TWO version of personal passport, on for CHinese, one for Fujian Province. In USA, Cheating Greencard and Nationality among all Chinese, mainly is from 3 Counties, Lianjiang, Chnagle, and Fuqing County of Fujian Province, So of course most Chinese don't mind you blame them and call them bastard. Of course a foreigner doesn't know this in a deeper extent.
They are bastard, yes, nothing strange.
DavidRsaid But not all Han Chinese love to cheat. We never cheat to get any land from Native Americans at expense of several bottles of alcohol. LoL
抱兔兔 yeah Han people were only eating Taiwanese people a hundred years ago and took their land. Fan gao was very popular back in the days.
呵呵呵,美国的酒店我就不吐槽了,一个比一个渣
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no, i dont want any dvd's
I definitely sure they only focus on the crap things about China. There are tons of five-star hotels that are more attractive than this one. It has been common sense that the quality of high end hotels in China are much better than that of in US. If u travel both places frequently, u will know it.
I have travelled in China and all across America and I have only come across one high end hotel in China that comes anywhere near the high end American hotels. The last time I was in Manhatten we stayed at the Marriott on Lexington Avenue close to 49th street, far superior to the Marriott we have in Nanning. China really has no idea what a five star hotel should be.
The quality of your content is outstanding guys! Keeping me happy and entertained on not the easiest of times ! Really appreciate it!
I used to watch this channel for more insight about my home country. But now, it's the vibe between you guys that keeps the channel vibrant. Much like Top Gear/Gran Tour. Even if you guys one day decide to leave this place behind, as long as you stick together, I am pretty sure this channel will keep coping. Sad that prozzie is going away tho.
i swear every video i have seen on this channel thus far just makes me believe that the sole purpose of this channel is to lambaste china. LOL
I stayed in a Chinese hotel, the extractor fan in the bathroom was a disgrace. It was hanging from the wall with wiring exposed. There was evidence that botched attempts had been made fix it with mastic in the past. I photographed it to show the reception desk. They showed complete indifference. The Chinese may well be building at an alarming rate but the quality is bad.
Hi ADVchina particularly SerpentZA and C-Milk, want to say a big thanks for creating such interesting channel! I am a Malaysian Chinese and have never been to China. I find your insights into China from foreign expats' perspectives are really interesting and I can't help but keep binge watching you channel. I know Mandarin/Cantonese/Fujian but I still find the differences between mainland Chinese and Malaysian/Singaporean Chinese amusing. Keep doing what you do mates! Love you guys.
the content you produce is so awesome. thank you very much!
5-Star Chinese hotels are like a film set 6 months after shooting ends.
substandard repairmen are not just in China. I had to have my phone jack (I'm still landlined) repaired and the guy came but fixed the jack in the back of the apartment, the one we don't use; he got angry when I pointed out he was fixing the wrong jack and refused to fix the right one (we finally had a friend come and do it). When the freezer in our refrigerator, only a couple years old, stopped working, we had the repair guy for that manufacturer come in with an attitude since he had to deal with a female instead of a male, spent hours looking and fiddling, then replaced the Freon thingy and adjusted the legs saying that the reason why the freezer had stopped working was because the door wasn't completely closing and sealing out the kitchen air. Problem was he made the legs in the front of the frig lower than the back legs so the door now swings open and you have to slam and then make sure the door has suctioned tight. Even to me, I pointed out that the front legs ought to be higher than the back so gravity helps make the door want to close all the time but the guy gave me the "if you weren't such an idiot I'd grace you with a reply" look. I needed to get on with my life so I just had him leave. Both the frig and the freezer doors always swing wide open when you open them, even if only a crack, and what the hell was that with replacing the Freon part except to charge a few hundred dollars for something that didn't need to be done? Our mailman too is Chinese (all these service guys have been late middle aged non-American born Chinese) and he tends to shove a bundle of those junk mail ad newspapers in our mail box to get rid of them, and if he delivers a package he'll phone but won't say squat, just heavy breathes for a few seconds. The work ethic is so horribly bad.
I bet this must be a franchise. I can't believe any western managed 5 star hotel would be in such a bad condition. Still sucks that Sheraton is ruining their reputation by letting such places use their name.
As a general rule for tourism places ( but actually applies to many things here ), if it's " for chinese by chinese " you can almost be certain to get a very bad value money. Other countries in Asia all offer a MUCH better experience because tourism there is done "by locals for westerners". So they keep things up to western standard. In China 99% of the tourism is domestic.
started binge watching about a week ago. i am now up to the latest...all of this is really good stuff.and in my case I really get the sense of what modern china can be like.,,i will try to sub up and share to as many as i can ...great footage ,great narrative,excellant stuff?thanks guys keep the rubber side down.
+Kevin Reed thanks Kevin
When you guys pull up the lid of that fancy, shiny, warming tray I was expecting to see some type of delicacy underneath, but all of the sudden... peanuts!... I'm dying... I can't stop laughing ;)...
A family relative of mine who's part of Human Resource Hospitality Association in Shanghai (can't remember the name exactly tbh) once told me Sheraton hotel's management was failing and falling apart. They can not compete with domestic Chinese brands anymore because Chinese hotels are much newer, much more luxurious and their target market aim not only at international /domestic business travelers but most importantly - Chinese couples. They are big percentage of the population, willing to spend money and they are the reason why some of those features in the hotel room exist as you see in the video.
A quick tip for finding great hotels when traveling in China is to simply ask the locals (preferably local friend, if not find someone in luxurious shopping mall) which hotel they know has recently constructed and secondly which has the best hospitality.
Putting the aircon down to 5 degrees in a humid environment is asking for trouble. The cooling coils will freeze the water in the air and potentially block airflow through the coils so your cooling is reduced drastically.. As a result no aircon!! Don't go lower than about 18 degrees and as it cools down drag it up to 21-22.
For a moment I was really confused that they didn't wear masks once they were inside the Hotel
you shed the light for us.. thank you
This was absolutely hilarious, the way you turned on Sheraton midway through the video.
Coming from a professional engineer in the air conditioning industry, there are policies to limit the set point and reduce energy. The general consensus (applies to western countries and eastern countries) is that unless there are 3 or more complaints, nothing will happen. They will tell you they will do something about it, but that's just purely psychological. Unless they get a certain amount of complaints nothing will be done. As a tip, keep complaining and they will change it.
Sorry to tell you that, International Sheraton experience was ended in the year 2015 and all members new and old got there membership cards to go Four Points by Sheraton from 2015 so, we Sheraton members are not allowed to go to Sheraton
My impressions of 5-star hotels in the US are exactly the same: they really suck. No free parking, no free breakfast, no free slippers or razor, no nothing. Even when I happen to hold a platinum membership card.
Thing is, there isn't an international quality standard for hotel star ratings and they differ depending on local quality of life, location, et cetera. For example, a 5 star hotel in a remote city is probably more in line with a 3-4 star hotel in bigger cities. Comparing a 5 star hotel in a city like Shanghai to a 5 star hotel in a 2nd - 3nd line city in China will show the difference despite being the same 'star level'.
In China, 5 star hotels are basically equivalent to US 4 star hotels unless it is a ritz carlton, kempenski, or park hyatt, etc. And also things turn to fall apart because of either poor contruction or hot and humid weather especially in southern China.
Where did you manage to find an $8 beer in Norway?? I've been searching my whole life for beer that cheap...
what bugs me is they always call up to check the room to make sure you didn't take anything from the room when you check out, even at a 5 star hotel.
Couple of beers makes me like you guys much more.
Cheers from Germany! 🍺
whenever I see a overhead shot from a drone, I try to look for you. it's like where's Waldo.
That's like 4 star standards, if you want a real 5 star standard hotel, check out Shanghai 5 star hotels. They can go up for 2000 RMB (about $400) but the shower, food standards, air conditioning, room service, are all top-notch.
A family member who's been in the Real Estate biz for a few decades now told me once that homes inhabited by chinese people are usually a tough sell. I guess I know why now. They don't seem to want to invest in maintenance, for some reason. Upkeep on buildings is an expensive proposition so I guess I can see where the chinese are coming from.
this hotel is a sheraton which supposed to be one of the most premium hotel chains in the world. I'm seriously shocked to see such shabby service at such a place.
When he’s sitting at the table eating. Why dose it look like some dude keeps vaping in his face 😂
Recently I stayed in the new Hilton in Dali. The glass and wood in the room were covered in accidental splashes of white paint. Part of the ceiling plaster fell down outside my room. The cleaners swept it up, guess that was job done cos nobody came to patch it up while I was there. At the buffet, water was dripping from the ceiling onto the floor, just missing some of the food. In the gardens, most of the mosiac floor pieces were missing in the pool and the lawns outside the ground floor rooms looked like they hadn't been cut for many months. They get away with it because most Chinese people have haven't been abroad much, and either don't notice or are not worried about these small details. Hilton had good service and food though to be fair, Sheraton looks like they can't even manage that.
I've done quite a bit of traveling in China and can confidently say that local hotels are much nicer than western chain hotels. I've stayed in both and a 3 star local hotel is so much nicer than any 5 star chain hotel. Chain hotels in China ride off the name alone because most tourists book accommodation online before they go and tend to pick familiar named hotels. Local hotels deal with both tourists and Chinese travellers/ businessmen so they have to make sure they are providing a great place so they get repeat service.
"My impression of fancy hotels in China, is that they are flash when first built, but degrade fairly rapidly due to a combination of almost zero maintenance and poor craftsmanship." Good analysis, you can say that about everything that china makes.
Sheratan must have very low standards. They would be much better of to sell that hotel and get out of China. I wouldn't let my dog stay in that place.
I have heard that for the last 2 or 3 years, China has a 8-star hotel rating system. So, a 5-star is like a 3 1/2 -star elsewhere. Still, there is no excuse for the walls looking the way the Sheraton looks there.
13:42 freaking peanuts in a tray
For almost 500 USD in Eastern Europe you can book a 3 star decent hotel for a whole week with everything included
I don't know how they rate stars in the rest of the world, but in the US it is based on amenities, not quality. Admittedly I worked in management at a Sheraton for three years and we never could have gotten away with such poor quality. Marriott should yank that flag, it's embarrassing.
those see through showers were originally designed so you you could keep an eye on the girl you paid for or things would go missing.
I'd recommend the Shangrila Hotel chain in China. As near as a 5 star hotel and service in China as you'll get. The food is definitely better 'much much' than that hotel there. Things generally aren't broken in the rooms, but standards and prices do differ depending on location. As for the Sheraton in Huizhou, I think you're paying for the view and that nice balcony.