Why We Need More MALE Kindergarten Teachers
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Might be a good idea. I wasn't thrilled with all my teachers being bitter old women with attitudes.
My kindergarten teacher was exactly what you described. What an old battle axe!
@@greatlakes4753 nice norm reference. Rip norm
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For real I had the same. They hated all the boys, shouted at us and as a little kid it's terrifying asf to hear a mentally deranged adult howling but for some reason treated the girls like delicate little flowers that'll crumble if you apply to much pressure.
Me too, plenty of old bags for teachers. Stood up the 9 kids who had the lowest grades, pointed out that they were all boys. Very very clearly pointed out that the worst performing students were boys in front of everyone. 1 was a girl she was just too excited to notice. Somehow she couldn't put one and 2 together that maybe the gender that tends to you know build almost everything might not too well being shoved into a classroom to do theory all day and be taught in a system that clearly doesn't work as well for boys to learn. This old crone was just getting her little slice of revenge on the men she knew personally and the monolithic group she call men that she knows politically.
She was a horrible sexist
My son has a male kindergarden teacher. It is amazing the difference how the he and the boys react to each other. It’s like they are on the same wave length compare to female teachers. Not taking anything away from the female teachers either. Feel very lucky.
Ive helped out at a daycare where I was the only guy. I could easily tell how much easier it was for me to keep the boys in line than for the others working there
Truth! My son ALWAYS does better with men.
You should take away from them. Female teachers absolutely suck.
Misogyny starts young..,
@@dovescry123found the dirty feminist.
My father wasn’t in my life, throughout the years I have had many male teachers guide me and in a way they all became my father figures. My mom would always worry, tell me not to be rowdy whereas the male teachers taught me how to control and channel my masculine energy. Without them, I would not be the same person I am today.
Asesome! Im happy for you.
❤
Because it isn’t a flex for a man to do a traditional woman’s job but it is a flex for a woman to do a traditional man’s job.
Well you don’t know how horny women when you tell them that you are a kindergarten teacher. Sure it’s no status or money flex, but the girls oh man…
It isn't a flex at all. Women in the military receive kiddie gloves. And they happily take them.
@@Chris-es3wf being a fight pilot is a flex for anyone ! Come on.....
lol flex, you mean quota hire yea probably.
@@kismet256not when they're lowering standards to make quota😂
Yup, I agree with him. My husband is a teacher in lower elementary. Kid at a young age needs father figure. I heard stories from my husband like how the kids appreciate him. Some of them told him that "I wish you're my dad." Some gave him hugs because they just felt loved by him at school. Kids nowadays have a less exposure of what it is really like to have a solid father influence at home or a solid complete functional family.
Think of how many fatherless children there are nowadays. A male kindergartner could be such a positive thing to these children, of course is not a substitute for a father in home but it's way better than nothing
Nowadays? Really?
Less now than ever...
Single father raised kids do as those from 2 parent homes. I bet if women knew they wouldn't get the kids they would make more effort to not act like a child and ruin the marriage.
@@daanper8994 percentage wise. But there are 9 billion people on this earth so that makes it more in the end
I had a male kindergarten teacher. He was amazing. Sadly he passed away a few years ago. I'll never forget Lenny Levine
You don’t want to be put into a position where you can be accused of wrong doing simply for being male. And for male teachers It’s not worth the risk, and children are suffering for it.
Simple fucking solution: keep the dad in the home. No need for male kindergarten teachers
True. But he's talking about what the children need.
Yeah im thinking of either studying counseling or primary teaching next year for uni. Man teachers do a lot of fuckn work tho, but don’t they also get more hollidays then say most people who work a normal job?
Feminism is cancer. Makes no one happy except sociopaths.
Yeah that’s a problem but fairly on the lower end of points that hold men back to do this job
As a male kindergarten teacher i can confirm he's a hundred percent correct.
im a male elementary Art teacher. were your college professors biased against you for aspects of your masculine energy?
Awesome!! I would really like to point out though it is not only important for boys. Girls need both genders just as much. 50/50 would be the best for all kids.
We all
Know kinder could use two teacher with the huge class sizes. 15 per teacher.
Not also good for the boys, but gives the girls an idea of what a good male role model should be other than their dad's at a younger age.
Imagine the kids not even having a Dad around. All kids need both genders, totally agree with you.
In middle school and high school, I had more male teachers than I had female teachers. As a I teenaged girl, having males teachers had a positive impact on not just me, but my classmates as well. The male teachers were not only more likable to their students, but they were more understanding, passionate about teaching and caring. As someone who grew up with both parents in the household, I thought I didn't need a positive male role model in my life because I already had one at home. But boy, was I wrong! It turns out, my dad wasn't the positive male role model I thought he was. He was impatient and emotional, which actually damaged my confidence and caused me to openly make bitter, snide remarks towards him in adulthood.
“It takes a village”
I can not agree more. The presence of both Female and Male role models in your life , specially at a young age is in my opinion very helpful for a fruitful upbringing.
Yes!!! I agree, even for elementary school, we need more male teachers. My brother was quite aggressive growing up and he had ONE teacher who he absolutely loved and loved going to his class and this guy made him feel heard and seen, Shout out to MR.DE'AMICO
I had a male kindergarten teacher, shout out Mr.Domico 🤘🏽
The reason there are so few is because there’s no money in it. I have no clue how people can live off so little, raise a family, and pay off student loans while at it. I grew up in Germany, and there were lot of male teachers. Not so much kindergarten, but from middle school on up. But over there teachers make good money. Many have tenure.
Pay rises exist, im sure they will get a pay rise as a childcare worker
Nope. Male teachers are marginalized. You talking as if people don’t work low paying jobs.
@@aks1993kumar teaching is different from most low-paying jobs because with teaching you usually have to have a masters degree, which means that you need to go into debt in order to get a low paying job. If you work retail, sure you may not make a lot of money, but you don’t need a degree for that so you’re not going into debt for it
@@aks1993kumar so you are a male teacher?
Because little boys could use some good male role models and not just a bunch of women telling them how horrible they are for just existing.
The first half of your statement is correct the other half is badly generalising
@@Chris-es3wf based off that comment you sound like you do. Give me an example of when your children’s teachers made them feel horrible for existing. Otherwise you’re just generalising.
@@B00naterwake up kiddo. Feminism is being pushed in schools.
@@johnsonandyjohnson I don’t think you what feminism means. And when did I say it wasn’t. Feminism and treating boys like shit are not mutually exclusive, if you think all feminists treat boys like shit again, you don’t know what feminism is.
@@B00nater Why would an example be needed if it would just be anecdotal anyway. Just poll the boys in their experiences at school, ask them how they felt about their female teachers. There are polls like that nowadays, you can just google them.
I learned a lot and respected most of my male teachers growing up. I despised a lot of the female teachers even at a very young age for being incompetent. I clearly remember a grown woman making fun of a 12 year olds speech impediment and I still remember the look on his face like wtf. I'd say at least two out of three of my female teachers had full blown breakdowns and emotional outbursts. Garbage. What kind of adult are you if children can make you lose your lid.
My brother was a kindergarten teacher, the kids loved him, especially the boys really stepped up. The woman principal fired him when he called on a incident of child abuse.
My oldest son had a male teacher that was awesome and my favorite teacher of my daughters was a male. She is very high energy and he knew how to deal with her.
I very much agree with this one. There should be a whole lot more good male teachers in general, especially at the younger ages. It’s important for men to be role models and safe spaces for kids.
Excellent point. I’m a HS teacher and we could use more at the MS/HS…but we definitely need more male teachers at the elementary. Too many of these students are lacking positive male role models and turn to male “celebrities”. The end result is a bunch of man-children.
I studied this years ago. In a district in KS, there was an 85% chance that a student could go K-12 without a teacher that was a man.
And most men do not want their kids having a male teacher. There was a study that showed over 90% of women and men wanted a female teacher for their young children.
They would want more men if they understood the consequences.
@@CyberMachinewhy do you think that is?
@@refraf8030 they don't want their young kids to be touched on. And most of those instances are from males
Not really 9-12 more elementary schools k-8 most people say I didn’t have any male teachers till I was in High school!
Extremely important,Germany works towards it,I know from personal experience, once, when the school-bully won't leave my side(only a one week chess course)he listened to every word,was nice and kind, even made his first friend.I didn't even ask,if he had a father in his life,to obvious.
I’m a male PE teacher (K-5). He is 100% correct. We need more men in elementary education.
and preschool
No one addresses the main issue - men do not want the salary associated with being a teacher. That's the answer.
Yes - preferential hiring with signing bonuses to even this out - just like the air force.
This is a very good point, having an additional competent and professional male role model in a child's life will only produce positive results, because they have a greater opportunity to gain more perspectives and experiences from different people. Especially for boys, it would definitely be a good way to help them mature quicker and learn how to act like real, respectable men from early on.
when I was a substitute in kindergarten there were in some classes quite a lot of girls and boys that wanted to spend time and draw and play with me especially for some reason, then this one girl wanted to sit with me and be with me all the time and later i found out she had lost her father and after that everything made sense. every child needs a male and a female role model and it's quite alot more common to have fatherless children and then there are no males in they're kindergarten or schools which compounds the damage
Single dad of 3 very young boys who live with me full time.
Used to be against this idea. Always thought female influences when young would be best.
Since having a few male teachers in their school, including HeadMaster, have now changed my mind.
I have women teachers friends who do say that there needs to be more men teachers especially in the elementary levels
Smart man. Teach the young boys early of what masculinity is. It will benefit them in the long run.
Mr. W.
30 years later and I remember kindergarten. He was a wonderful, kind, compassionate man.
Nah big disagree. We need more male primary and highschool teachers.
No there more male High school male teachers than elementary teachers so I disagree on that!
I just did a little reflecting and I realized he’s right.. I can remember every male teacher I had through High School and only a few female teachers. To his point, growing up I was more in need of male role models as mine was mostly unavailable. Those teachers meant a lot to me and played a role in making me the shit bag I am today.
The reason why there aren't more dudes is its super hard, caring, mentally taxing work for absolutely shit pay. Men, given the chance will not choose that ratio of effort to pay. If they are going to go to the effort of getting a qualification that takes several years, it's not going to be for a low paying job like childcare
This is the real issue and it is not being discussed. Men do not value this work.
Yeah Kindergarten isn’t “childcare”. It’s Elementary School. It’s an incredibly important year of school developmentally where kids literally learn how to read and write.
It lays the foundations for a persons entire academic career. Do you think that you or someone with childcare experience could just pick up and become a Kindergarten teacher on a whim? You’re kidding… Also FYI Kindergarten teachers are on the exact same pay scale as all other teachers in a school district.
My nephew did some substitute teaching while he was waiting for a full-time teaching position to become available. He was called to sub a kindergarten class for one day. The evening after subbing he said never again in kindergarten! He said it was like trying to herd cats!
Less like cats and more like little rats lol.
I love my little rat though she's fun.
I had 1 male teacher in primary school. I’m mid forties now. I still remember everything about him, his demeanour, his mannerisms, his lessons, the way he spoke, how he implicitly made me want to listen, learn and behave. I don’t remember ANY of my female teachers. He had an impact on what I chose to become, they were just doing a job.
Males tend to only take other men seriously. That’s probably why your male teacher was easier to remember. Quick question: can you name an actual female role model you have? Female relatives don’t count
My uncle, my cousin and my bfs brother are all teachers.
My uncle is famous in our town. Once people hear my last name, they lose their mind….
“Your uncle is rad…. Best bloke out there…. He changed my life…. I needed him and he was there”
We need more men like my family ❤❤❤
Sister in law is a principal, we were talking a number of years ago and she mentioned how good I am with children and had I ever thought about being a teacher.
I admitted I had but didn't want to be in a career where people would always second guess my motives for going into it. My brother said that was silly but she had to tell him that the male teachers have to be checked on by other teachers if a female student is staying behind after class, but not female teachers.
I'd rather work a job that pays better and has no social stigma that I don't really like
My brother in law trained to be a teacher, and he is majorly skilled eg. he plays the guitar, is super artistic, and really creative etc... He had hearing problems growing up, so was treated as though he was special needs until it was sorted out, so he was a bit delayed, which means he has an understanding of what it's like to struggle. He couldn't get a job, except for in a school for struggling kids, where he was kicked, punched, hit, and spat on etc... basically every day. He now has masters in early childhood education.
What if that teacher is a boys only male role model?
There's needs to be more men teaching younger generations, and not just for the sake of the boys, many girls don't have a positive male role model either. We need to know what a good man is before we start dating.
Misleading - Average men are naturally not interested in babies and toddlers, and most would actively dislike* being trapped in a room with 15+ kids who are not their own, never mind work full time! More male teachers would be great, but good luck.
thats an average sterotype
had a Male kindergarten teacher. easily the most beloved and respected teacher ever, not just my opinion either. every student of his says the same and he was a recipient of national teacher of the year way back in the 80s. the goat Doc Seagul.
Dude. The kind of guys that choose to become elementary school teachers in this generation are rarely the kind of guys that are good role models for anyone let alone little boys.
My brother wanted to teach elementary school for this same reason. He decided to quit after 1 year of teaching because the girls wanted to touch him too much. Hugging, stroking, leaning on him. It was mostly girls without dads at home. My brother tried to avoid it and instructed the kids that touching the teacher was not allowed. It only lessened it a bit. He was terrified of a lawsuit or accusations of something. He instead worked for the Y for 25 years. He became regional director.
Yes! Totally agree!!
You struggled here. I think a stronger point from the example is “the need for a higher proportion of males to be in the Air Force is vital to our national security, and we are using affirmative action to boost the female numbers to 8%, in the opposite direction. As a comparison, this is more than twice the rate of male kindergarten teachers, who enter the profession organically, without affirmative action.”
Why are you assuming it is affirmative action and not ability ?
Well, this week I learned about funeral homes preffering female morticians to avoid bodies being sexually assaulted, so... Not sure children deserve less protection than corpses.
I had 1 male teacher all through elementary school and I only had him for about 3 months before we moved and I went back to female teachers and I still remember him having more influence on me than most of the others
Absolutely right I couldn't agree 👍 more makes soooo much sense
A male role model is crucial for a children’s development along side a female role model
Mate. You are so right. We all need a JP in our lives from a young age
Absolutely.
My favorite teacher of all time was a dude he was funny asf never a dull moment in that class
I hands down got better results in all the classes that I had male teachers in. Female teachers just couldn’t get through to me, some of them were lovely but they couldn’t communicate to me the way I resonated best. You want male students to do better we need more male teachers.
Teaching doesn’t pay enough
Severance shoutout! Hell yeah!
I had a male mathematics teacher. One of my favorite teachers of all time. He's the catalyst of me becoming an engineer.
Absolutely.... Especially at that age
My adult son’s favourite teachers were all male. He learned a great deal from them because they related on a level that a developing boy needed, and he was engaged.
I think male (very well trusted and monitired!) members of society should have influence ( scouts hiking fishing etc) but not be the main teacher only. Again its like 2 parents both give you the duality of masculinity and femininity to create an equal balance.
As long as these new male kindergarten teachers act like men I'm all for the idea!
Well, maybe start paying and appreciating kindergarden teachers (and other traditionally "female" professions) properly... that would help.
Well when there less women in some jobs we’re told it’s sexism.
So why when it’s less men is the same not true. If we are being told that’s how judgements are being made.
True, males are more compassionate and the younger boys listen
I am a male kindergarten teacher and was Chris says is 100 correct and evidence-based
As a male now 41 most not all my best teachers were male. They understand how boys learn and what we need. Woman think yelling and discipline will work it won't. Boys need encouragement and a reason to do good not just for goods sake
A boys primary role model should always be his dad. Let’s all be better fathers first.
I completely agree but teachers are the kids stand in parents for the day while at school, and it’s always good to have a good male role model just in case the dad has either passed , not present in their life etc
Having been a teacher for a decade back in the 2000's unfortunately there is ZERO social pride or status or respect from a lot of the public being a teacher. We have been taught to seek status jobs and NOT socially rewarding jobs.
Male teachers are needed. So many kids don’t have father figure at home and have no male role model
My 4th and 5th grade teachers were both men and they were a couple of my favorites to memory. In hindsight, they were fantastic role models.
It's a great point and I but there's no money in it.
If only it were that simple!
I seriously wish my son had a male teacher.
The thing is the stigma barrier of the concept of men being fond of children that aren’t theirs
Whenever I think about it: its not natural to give your children to a group of foreign women to take care of them while you are working for 8 hours to put food on the table. I mean in the past we had small villages or tribes, where the physical fit would go hunting, but everyone else was taking care of the children who couldnt take part in the hunt and they all were a big family
My son had a kindergarten teacher that was a male, and he excelled much faster than my 2nd with a female teacher. More respect is given to males from males.
Because more is expected from males.
Honestly, I like this idea. I had a male kindergarten teacher, but as a female, it was quite awkward, and I was often uncomfortable talking to him. I don't know why, however. We had normal 5 yo talking to 20 yo conversations. It was just always weird explaining to him what I can and can't do. We would often try to beat the boys in push-up competitions, and he would encourage the girls and humble the boys when they lost. Like I said, reminiscing it shouldn't have been as weird, but just his presence sometimes made me uncomfortable because I felt like I couldn't tell him everything or get close enough to talk to him a lot.
I agree with this; I love teachers.
Have you ever met the kind of dudes who teach kindergarten?
Not all of course... But my son dealt with a really emotional 2nd grade teacher.
My son told him he was too sensitive.
Schools are a vital part in a childs upbringing and development (by choice & force of the governmant since you are obligated to go and they take up a significant amount of time). Many many children are, for whatever reason, being raised without a father/fatherfigure in the picture and male teachers can assist and help that immensely. Obviously no one expects a male teacher to teach anything beyond the curriculum bit the experiences matter very much. It just provides you with someone to look up to.
Also according to my experience male teschers were always the favourites and praised by both girls and boys. Schools are governed by women in most cases (this is also true if the headmaster male since what matters are the teachers) and … here‘s where it brought us. All I‘m saying is we need more male teachers everywhere including kindergardens.
Why does there HAVE to be anymore of anything? Equality is desirable but not necessarily equality. Allow the same barrier of entry for everyone and allow people the freedom to do whatever they are good at and enjoy. If men don’t want to be school teachers and women don’t want to be fighter pilots then more power to them.
I have a friend whose a 1st grade teacher
He just told me the other day “he has no idea what he’s doing with his life anymore”😂
My primary school had a few male teachers. They dealt with us so well. Female teachers were good but to have male authority figures really helps.
I actually thought about being a male kindergarten teacher or working at a daycare before, but I’m not about to be getting accused lol. I absolutely adore kids, I partly raised my niece, and I’ve always been praised for lack of a better term, for my patience with kids in general. But I’m fine not doing that. I love kids, but I just can’t risk it. I mean I’ve heard things about men getting side eyes and dirty looks from the female teachers, saying he touched a kid I think. I’m good without all that. If it was more welcoming by society then yeah, but some people genuinely don’t want men around their kids. Can I blame them for the paranoia? No, society constantly talks about male pedos and such (despite how many cases there are of female teachers raping their male students) but it just sucks ya know
There wasn't a single male teacher at my entire elementary school other than the gym teacher. It wasn't until middle and high school that i regularly had male teachers.
Well then you’d have to pay kindergarten teachers a livable wage-
Yes , i think the same way . As my kids have gone through school. The male teachers are so much easier and take quick action with issues, as for the female teacher seem to be not interested in helping with any issues.
Anyone in teaching would agree, it's important to have some male teachers. We need male teachers in early education too.
However convincing the men to actually want to do that is a big problem, possibly because the income for on education teachers has dropped along with the rise women as vast majority of teacher.
Diversity goes both ways. That's why it matters in important and impressionable fields.
I had 2 male teachers in primary school and 3 or 4 in highschool and yes the male teachers were less abusive and much easier to engage with meaning we all learned more due to being actively engaged in the class. I've only ever been bullied and belittled by my female teachers. I was a good student too. I might have been a bit of a social justice warrior but that was a stage I've grown out of lol. Realising the world owes you nothing was a good start.
There’s more male teachers in High school than elementary schools and that’s a Fact!!!
They would have to serve another role that centered around rough and tumble play unfortunately that is unlikely to happen
I am an English teacher at my primary school. There are 5 kindergarten classes. Three of them have male teachers and two have female.
Its kinda true though, when there was a male teacher the class would be more respectful and listen more. Not sexist or anything but the male teachers where almost non existent and it was nice to have some type of male role model as a boy to look up to and learn from
I didn't have a male teacher until 5th grade, and he quit to become a cop half way through the yr.
I believe kindergarten was the most important year in school you learn to communicate problem solve and to cooperate and make friends with other people
"Why should there be more."
Representation is a good enough answer.
This is why you play sports as a child. How many women coaches r coaching boy teams?
More qualified teachers. More passionate teachers. More teachers that want to do it. Better compensation for teachers will achieve this. I don’t care if they are male or female. I want the best for the job.
We chose the preschool for our sons based on the existence of male teachers at the school. The teacher my younger son had was a young woman in a tomboy phase, and he was SO disappointed when she turned out to be a girl.
I was a male elementary school teacher and I can tell you it’s absolutely necessary for the kids without fathers especially.
I strongly believe that women are more suited to educat and caring for children around infentsy to at least 3 years old. I would even argue 8 years old at the hi end. Because children's "core" identity is finished at that age. However, I agree with the statement that we need more male teachers for the boys