If spoilers could ruin movies, how do movies based on novels avoid getting spoiled? For example, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince had Snape killing Dumbledore. That infamous moment in the book was kept in the film because obviously Dumbledore's death was an important moment in the story.
lol the second one was boring the first one was ok. youre fooling yourself with ignorance and lets be honest thats not bliss. because thats the attitude that has allowed the msheu to become what it has.
@@_SUPERN0VA_ that didn't happen with The marvels after Guardian 3 ? people just like the character they like and will go watch their own movie, not watch all the movie like before, i say this because i also tried to catch up all their movie, but Thor 4 and She hulk broke me
It's not superhero fatigue, it's bad superhero movie fatigue. I was a dedicated MCU fan since Iron Man and went opening weekend to every movie up to Endgame. Since then it's been disappointment after disappointment. The only post-Endgame offerings I enjoyed was Shang Chi and Moon Knight, mostly due to having a decent kung-fu movie and Oscar Issac being amazing. Other than Guardians 3 I'd given up on the MCU. I'll see Deadpool & Wolverine but only once and only because of the 2 actors that I love being in it. Disney is too big a ship to move quick enough to fully save it.
not only they are bad they are OBLIGATORY for some kind of sick joke i only watch like 3 movies of marvel and drop the ball I DONT WANT TO WATCH 10-20 MOVIES AND 10 TV SERIES, thats literally the mcu in TEN YEARS 10 YEARS of good mid movies this are bad inself
Even if you don't want to consider Deadpool as a potential saviour for the MCU, he's the closest thing to one. He's like one of the only A-tier characters that the MCU has left. Iron Man? Dead. Captain America? Gone. Spider-Man? Sony has their fingers on him. Doctor Strange? Turned into a dumb@ss. Thor? Was made a clown. Moon Knight? I bet Season 2 isn't even greenlit yet. John Walker? Sidelined in the Thunderbolts. Daredevil? We don't even know if his show is good or not because they don't have the same writers from the Netflix Daredevil
Regardless, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades right? To be a savior he would have to have a lasting presence which would not only be maintained in multiple movie projects but also from writer to writer since it does not seem like the intents of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman are going to be allowed to drive other projects where their characters aren’t at the helm. A singular movie can guarantee success mostly for itself, but the Universe seems to be a very different story. As you alluded to as well, the story of the last major sage was held up by multiple characters running their own movie series coming together as an event. The universe wasn’t founded on a singular savior, so hard on hopes that it can be caught and raised again by one.
I'm glad you mentioned U.S. Agent, because I think that he's the only new character that's any good. The problem is, he can't reach his full potential because the writers are desperate for me to hate him.
Last year, the grifters tried to hype us up by leaking Avengers: Secret Wars. Apparently, after the MCU Avengers lose, the TVA rebel against Kang and rally a band of multiversal heroes (the Fox and Sony characters) to stop him. Tobey Maguire, Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds are the main stars. Obviously with Jonathan Majors being fired, the movies will be retooled like hell. The threat of Kang was essentially nipped in the bud with Loki now in charge of all the timelines. Despite this, Deadpool and Wolverine kind of confirms that the leaks were true. Even if the movie is amazing, it'll be on par with Spider-Man: No Way Home and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 in that it's a golden nugget amidst the horseshit.
Your second paragraph is what I’ve seen saying. How is Kang supposed to be a threat if Loki’s existence as the “God of Stories” is a thing? He holds the Multiverse together and is basically the most powerful being the MCU has seen. He should easily be able to prevent the existence of Kangs within the Multiverse/Timelines (or whatever they’re supposed to be) and/or prevent Kangs from outside his tree of universes from getting in.
the characters being overpowered isnt the issue the problem is hiring people based on DEI and race politics and forcing all of that into the movie. if you think the only bad part about the "woke" people being hired for these jobs is that they make overpowered characters youre incredibly wrong and missed the real issues.
@@knabdankthe mcu now is so bad, casting people for their woke crap simply because they want to adhere to the audience? Yet these movies are so bad and flop hard that it’s hilarious since the audience they’re trying to cater to dont watch these things and instead just love to complain on twitter
Bro if they change every character to be a white guy it won’t save the MCU. This isn’t about “DEI” and “woke”. This is about narrative momentum - more specifically the complete absence of it. The MCU worked for the first three phases because it kept a solid dependable structure: some movies introduce new characters, some movies are about established characters, finish the phase with an avengers movie, and sprinkle some hints about where the story is going from there. So even if there was a movie you weren’t interested in watching, you were more likely to watch simply because you could get more info about the overall story. Phases 4-5 have completely dropped the narrative momentum. We are 10 films and over a dozen television shows in and there has not been a single avengers movie. And we won’t be getting one until 2026 (if they even stick with their plans).
@CouchRadish It kinda of is, mostly in an indirect way. Instead of focusing on good writing, they are more focused on politics. Not just woke politics but also corporate politics. Worrying about marketability in China is a part of it. Politics has ruined the MCU because Disney put an emphasis on politics, instead of what people want, passionate writing. Not at fault of any good writers mind you, they really don't get any creative liberty
The only people that are saying this film will save the MCU are those that are suffering from “cope.” I expect Deadpool and Wolverine to receive the same criticism that GotG Vol. 3 got, one of the few film that is getting praise and not audible groans. Still, it’s funny that this is what we’re hearing now. The MCU is dead and they expect a third Deadpool film featuring Wolverine FINALLY rocking the yellow/blue costume to help revive it. They do know that after this film we're getting Falcon cosplaying as Capt. America and they expect people to have seen the D+ series before 2025.
agreed... the problems viewers have with the MCU will not be erased or forgotten by release of Deadpool 3... the gender and race swapping of main characters, promoting identity politics, constantly belittling and mocking the audience (especially the male audience), retroactively destroying and humiliating main male characters and much much more...
WTF does suffering from cope mean, my brain hurts just reading that oxymoronic line. Suffering and cope are opposites it’s like saying you’re drying from wet, like what in the entire fucc? And this is why the internet is so toxic because idiots like you swear you are so much smarter than everybody else lol. Also Sam Smith took the mantle of Cap in the comics, Steve Rodger’s decided to age himself out the franchise, so everybody knew Sam Smith was going to get ONE movie as Cap to lead into Secret Wars at which point they will recast Steve Rodger’s. What is the problem? And FAWS will have been out for like 4 years by the time Cap 4 drops even tho you really only need to have saw Endgame to know Sam is Cap.
Hugh Jackman's Wolverine in Deadpool 3 is from the 2013 movie The Wolverine, at the end of the movie we see him get that yellow suit when he gets on the plane with Yukio .
when you bring up nostalgia it makes me realize that in the next 10 to 20 years they'll have little to no nostalgia to work off of sometimes. and this will be after because of the last 10 years of slowly failing industry already.
It’ll be the anomaly just like no way home then back to business as usual based on Disney’s conference call. I’ll enjoy the hell out of this movie nonetheless.
I just came across your channel yesterday and I can't get enough. I look forward to watching your previous videos and your future ones as well. Thank you It is a great combination of being informative yet hilarious.
It really is almost frustrating how it’s taken 10 years for this. Blah blah legal stuff blah blah they didn’t have the rights to the x men but sheesh you would think these greedy companies would come together and make an x men/ avengers movie seeing the money making opportunity by now. So that’s not an excuse in my opinion. 10 years to get Deadpool and wolverine in the MCU all it is is a desperate attempt to bring back fans after screwing up over and over. Never thought I’d say it but if this movie is any less then an absolute banger of a time marvel is DONE!
From what I gathered, Disney shamelessly wanted to include their Phase 4 & 5 failures into DP3? RR told them to go pound sand, or he walks. He built this franchise from the ground up, and doesn’t want failures such as Miss Marvel She-Hulk, Echo or Agatha piggybacking onto this franchise, since they don’t have audience of their own. If true, good on him, cause without RR….there is NO Deadpool!
i can’t believe the whole “marvel/star wars/disney sucks” bit is still interesting to some people. i think this channel could actually be more than that.
All our fav Avengers are gone or turned into lesser forms (Thor & Hulk). Deadpool 3 has potential to be good, but i don't see how it fixes all the current problems with MCU? This is a Swan Song for the Fox Marvel projects, thats how i'm going into it.
The second I saw the TVA's appearance, my mind automatically went to "dead on arrival". I have never seen any of the Loki or Disney Plus series for the simple reason that I just don't have Disney Plus and don't intend to get it, so for the TVA to be here means that they expect the audience to have watched Loki to know what the TVA is, which I don't even know except that they're an organization that exists "outside the multiverse" or something. Yes, this was kind of an issue during the Golden Age of Marvel. To watch Avengers 1, you needed to have watched Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor, but the films were both accessible to everyone during the theater release AND through home media like DVDs and Blu-Rays. I dont know if Loki is on Blu-Ray, it might be, but it still doesnt take away from the fact that it was primarily locked behind Disney's walled garden. I might be dramatic with saying it's dead on arrival, but what made the Deadpool movies special was that they were their own titles, and this was them taking it and putting it in with the other LEGO pieces that make up the MCU, so it's no longer its own thing like how Joker 2019 isnt part of any continuity.
Super hero fatigue plays a huge part, especially since Hollywood keeps farting out bad ones. Deadpool, Wolverine, Batman, and Spider-Man are all that's left that the majority of people will still go out to see. Even if Deadpool 3 were to "reboot" the whole MCU, Disney will still mess it up with their terrible activist writers and lack of passion/respect for the source materials and the fans.
It's gonna be super nerfed , Reynolds has become super woke lately , not to mention taylor swift is bringing her fans with her so you know damn well they're going to play it as safe as possible to avoided offending that demographic
Of course it can't. Nothing can short of retconning the last fews movies/shows and bringing back most of the old cast/hiring proper writers. Or taking a multi-year break, rebooting and building from the ground up
Deadpool 3 might save the MCU but they have to stop tv series like she hulk secret invasion etc...What we need is a good movie like deadpool 3 to make us excited for the next MCU future.
"The sound of a company shitting itself" nicely said Cynic. This movie is a band aid over the sucking chest wound that is the current MCU. I used to be a huge fan, but I'm only mildly interested in this s obvious member berry bait. I think your panel's BO predictions are pretty fair. Guess we'll wait and see, cheers.
Regardless of this movie being good or not... am I fuck paying to see it Disney & Marvel need to do a fuck ton more than "Nostalgia" to earn my money again. It's a pirate life for me.
The movie is going to suck the moment that becomes ""Loki s3 propaganda""", i dont care the MCU references but making a plot to drop the xmen is going to suck like THE MARVELS dropping Beast, not by the plot just by using a movie to promote other movies
As a long time Marvel fan, and someone also disappointed with most of the recent MCU films... I'm excited for 'Deadpool 3' but also excited to see that character stepping into the MCU.
The deadpool movies were always kind of their own thing to the side of the big marvel universe, and that's kind of what makes them special. Definitely the first marvel movie I will watch in years.
QUESTION: Why is the TVA ran by humans and still successful when most of them are just humans with zap sticks? This is supposed to be an organization that can control time and all beings in every universe which is very hard to believe. Are you telling me characters and variants of characters like Thanos, Ebony Maw, Thor, Doctor Strange, Ego (Quill’s dad) or Hulk couldn’t handle a group of humans with sticks? I highly doubt that. Anyway, you know things at Disney are bad when the only parts of the Deadpool trailer fans dread were the parts connected to the MCU. Everything Disney touches these days implodes so I’m just concerned because I want to love this movie. As always, I agree with your take, Movie Cynic.
As a kid in the 70's who loved Marvel superhero comics I knew they were all inter related but I never bothered to try and keep up with them all, I couldn't even if I tried since I was a kid with limited resources cheap as comics were back then (a quarter each!!!!) and so I dipped in and out of the stories that featured my favorite characters , Spiderman, Hulk, Avengers, etc... often out of sequence and sporadically and they were always a lot of fun never knowing the full over all story and enjoying the adventurous moments at hand trying to piece it all together in my little mind. When I got older and began following it all much closer much of the mysterious fun evaporated, too much of a "good thing" maybe and it all became a big bore. The "cinematic universe has at least replicated that experience for me.
I’m conflicted about supporting this movie because Marvel is a such two faced bastard. They were so focused on the MCU that they discarded X-Men and Fantastic Four characters across various games such as Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite resulting in an apparent death of such a legendary series because of petty movie politics Now they’re overly relying on X-Men to save their MCU
It's more MCU fatigue than anything else. I'm honestly sick of multiverses and marvel formulaic humor. Deadpool and Spiderman are still huge because they are bigger icons than Marvel itself as a brand. Them being attached to the tired MCU just feels like a downgrade.
@@tylere.8436 I agree. But that multiverse crap we are tired of is because they way WAY overused in an attempt to seem complex while just showing how poor their writing is these days.
I have enough of Marvel as of late. If they want to make shit right - they need to somehow reset the timeline (what was hinted at in the Deadpool and Wolverine leaks), add Spider-Man to the fold, let him join the X-Men for a trilogy. Then sprinkle it with some OG Blade (maybe a darker - vampire plotline or something - to make it different) and bring NEW COOL CHARACTERS. Leave Avengers alone and just make it exciting again. We don't need to reheat an old meal here.
@MasterGordon5115 It'll wipe out everything they've done from the beginning of the MCU and start clean. Now, it may be a soft reboot, meaning some things from before might cross over, but essentially, it's a way to get EVERYONE back in the Marvel Universe. So they could have a new Iron Man, new Cap, new Black Panther, etc, as well as having ALL the new MCU X-MEN and Fantastic Four, and a fresh Avengers line up. It's a way for them to do everything they've never been able to do because of rights. Endgame was just a small glimpse. People truly have no idea what's coming, and if they can pull it off, we will have a Marvel Cinematic Universe that much more closely resembles the Marvel Comic Universe, with all our favorite heroes fighting together.
I feel like people are saying this will save the mcu because they think deadpool is going to kill everyone. I really hope deadpool kills every new shit character they introduced in phase 4 so they can just start again with actually likable characters. Don't think that will happen though
I agree that Deadpool & Wolverine won't save the MCU BUT This movie can and WILL bring people back to Marvel movies and cinemas and even potentially give them faith into the MCU. So, if people who are responsible for Marvel movies and shows will keep making actually good projects instead of whatever phase 4 and 5 were, then we can honestly say that MCU is saved. But for now, let's hope that we'll at least get a good Deadpool movie!
This movie will at most give Disney a "i will try the next movie" card for some people if it's good. I am glad i haven't watched anything except Spiderman since Eternals, because Eternals made me fall effin asleep.
_"Superhero fatigue"_ isn't real. What people are tired of is how similar everything has been for the last *_12 years.._* The comic genre can literally co-exist with any other genre.. the storytelling potential is limitless. It is a never-ending goldmine... The suits are just too greedy & stupid to see it. Everything's gotta be a part of a cinematic universe & go on for 30+ years instead.
Just seeing the TVA in the trailer made me less hyped for this. And I’ve been counting the damn days til it’s released. I was enjoying the trailer and the second I noticed the TVA, I thought of the MCU, which triggered an instant dislike, and I immediately lost so much of my excitement. It was so bizarre... I didn’t even think about it, it was just literally an immediate feeling.
BRO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RATE EVERY PRODUCTION? IF U ASK ME, THAT'S WHAT IS WRONG WITH MOVIES NOWADAYS. BECAUSE OF HATERS LIKE THESE, COMPANIES TRY TO HARD TO BE BETTER THAN THE LAST AND THAT CAUSES THEM TO FAIL. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO WATCHING MOVIES JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT? NO CRITICISM LIKE YOURE THEIR DISAPPOINTED FATHER OR SOMETHING
Because Logan (Wolverine) died in Logan. His story was concluded and Hugh Jackman was done playing the character. Now it seems like they're just bringing him back for a desperate attempt to cash in on the beloved character.@@TheNerdWhoKnocks
It's an alternate timeline, just like Logan is an alternate timeline. Also pretty crummy ending for Logan since he helped saved everybody in Days of Future Past only for everybody to be just killed off again IMO
I’ve been watching these videos lately, and I disagree with most of the RUclipsr is making these videos about this movie may not be good or this movie won’t save the marvel universe whatever. I usually never comment, but the only thing I want to disagree with is the amount of money that you and your panel are predicting it is going to make. If the previous movies made 800, million by themselves, imagine one that is not only going to have the Deadpool fan base but it’s going to have the Marvel cinematic universe fanbase, the X-Men fan base and the casual movie goers plus is the only marvel movie releasing this year that is easily $1 billion movie.
Nah bro you dont understand after 4 years of bad movies deadpool will clean all of that and we will forget everything they have done for a single movie
I'm not paying to watch this. There's too many ways to see it without giving Disney money. I'd suggest nobody pay for Deadpool 3. There's going to be DEI in it. That's why Ryan and Hugh are pissed with Disney
Idk, even if they de-wokeified everything and focused on adapting fan favourite story lines, I'm just so superhero'd out at this point. We've had nearly 20 years of comic book adaptations fed to us, I'm over the genre as a whole. It's time to find something new and refreshing
I could care SOOO Little either way.. I've NEVER liked the Wade Wilson version of the Deadpool character so none of his movies hold any weight for me and in fact find the first one felt very formulaic and generic and the second film grotesquely homo erotic with all the innuendos and open ayG jokes littered in it.... those films and comic stories are made for kids on the spectrum so that does nothing for me.....
@@ZColony some of you are intolerable, yes... just like u right now cutting strait pass my point to talk about how my post has affected you like that's relevant...
@@billybadass3056 as if being on the spectrum makes someone less then anyone else. People that have your veiwpoint dont tend to care about anyone but them selves
@@ZColony you're a joke for proving me right... piss off.... of course you WON'T though since you are on that spectrum and will now act like a child and *try* to have the last word..
I didn't know Ryan Reynolds said he was quitting the role of Deadpool after this but that's definitely not gonna help Disney/Marvel he would probably still come back for Secret Wars but even then...
Thanks for another entertaining overview. Regardless, super hero movies for adults reminds me of Bobcat Goldthwait's answer to why he hadn't seen the latest Star Wars movie: "Because I'm over 40, and I've been laid"
yeah, I don't care about this movie. I didn't even check out Deadpool 2, and as much as I appreciate Jackman I've been ready for a more comics-accurate Wolverine for a while. Best of luck to these guys, but I'll be renting this when it's $4
My guy, one Deadpool film isn’t gonna save the MCU which most common sense have abandoned at this point. Nobody said the films not gonna be good, but this isn’t saving the franchise.💀😭
Deadpool is not going to get rid of all the dead weight in Disney and Marvel. The same writers that brought She Hulk are still going to be around and employed at Marvel.
3:00 I love Tarantino, but so much for Tarantino saying people don't care about the actors anymore, only about what hero they play. Yea nuh. I never subscribed to this. Once a generation grows up with one hero and he gets swapped, that will be gg for most viewers. Would anyone care for a new Iron Man? no
The only way I will ever trust Marvel again is when Disney kicks Bob Iger and Kevin Feige to the curb and their replacements declare publicly "f*ck ESG/WEF"
I also find it hilarious how spot on this video was. The movie was indeed 1) not going to save the MCU and 2) was a good movie on its own merit, like the video predicted and hoped for.
@@TheMovieCynic1. Too early to tell if it’s gonna save the mcu. 2. It does a great job of showing what the mcu could use the multiverse for. I believe this movie can and will save the mcu based off of the pure fact that it shows you can have new stories outside of the “sacred timeline”. I for one am excited to see what the mcu takes from this film. Just wait. You’ll see.
"Most of the scenes were spoiled through online leaks last summer." So glad I missed that, the whole trailer was new to me.
If spoilers could ruin movies, how do movies based on novels avoid getting spoiled? For example, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince had Snape killing Dumbledore. That infamous moment in the book was kept in the film because obviously Dumbledore's death was an important moment in the story.
Same
@@SeanWheeler100what?
Same
I don't care if Deadpool 3 saves the MCU I just want it to be a good movie
Same with me.
SAME.
but we know we won't get a good movie in our lifetime with these types in charge....
Same
Bro same
Deadpool ain't meant to save the MCU anyway, it's just going to be another awesome Deadpool movie (hopefully)
lol the second one was boring the first one was ok. youre fooling yourself with ignorance and lets be honest thats not bliss. because thats the attitude that has allowed the msheu to become what it has.
The problem is people gonna start acting like deadpool saved the mcu and forget every bad movie they been making the past 4 years
this
@@_SUPERN0VA_ that didn't happen with The marvels after Guardian 3 ? people just like the character they like and will go watch their own movie, not watch all the movie like before, i say this because i also tried to catch up all their movie, but Thor 4 and She hulk broke me
Honestly, Deadpool would be telling the MCU to get f**ked.
It's not superhero fatigue, it's bad superhero movie fatigue. I was a dedicated MCU fan since Iron Man and went opening weekend to every movie up to Endgame. Since then it's been disappointment after disappointment. The only post-Endgame offerings I enjoyed was Shang Chi and Moon Knight, mostly due to having a decent kung-fu movie and Oscar Issac being amazing. Other than Guardians 3 I'd given up on the MCU. I'll see Deadpool & Wolverine but only once and only because of the 2 actors that I love being in it. Disney is too big a ship to move quick enough to fully save it.
This. Fans aren't fed up of the MCU (or Star Wars), they're fed up with Disney flushing the franchise(s) down the toilet.
Bingo. Guys like this are just getting lazy. Nobody is watching this new movie for wolverine. Deadpool is why we are here
not only they are bad they are OBLIGATORY for some kind of sick joke
i only watch like 3 movies of marvel and drop the ball I DONT WANT TO WATCH 10-20 MOVIES AND 10 TV SERIES, thats literally the mcu in TEN YEARS 10 YEARS of good mid movies this are bad inself
Same here, I just don’t think I’ll even watch this movie in theaters.
it a good movie @@missgabbicris
Even if you don't want to consider Deadpool as a potential saviour for the MCU, he's the closest thing to one. He's like one of the only A-tier characters that the MCU has left. Iron Man? Dead. Captain America? Gone. Spider-Man? Sony has their fingers on him. Doctor Strange? Turned into a dumb@ss. Thor? Was made a clown. Moon Knight? I bet Season 2 isn't even greenlit yet. John Walker? Sidelined in the Thunderbolts. Daredevil? We don't even know if his show is good or not because they don't have the same writers from the Netflix Daredevil
And thing is he's not even a character that the MCU had- they just inherited him from the Fox acquisition.
Regardless, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades right? To be a savior he would have to have a lasting presence which would not only be maintained in multiple movie projects but also from writer to writer since it does not seem like the intents of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman are going to be allowed to drive other projects where their characters aren’t at the helm. A singular movie can guarantee success mostly for itself, but the Universe seems to be a very different story. As you alluded to as well, the story of the last major sage was held up by multiple characters running their own movie series coming together as an event. The universe wasn’t founded on a singular savior, so hard on hopes that it can be caught and raised again by one.
Shame Netflix had to cancel their Punisher show. Disney/Marvel utterly hate that character.
I'm glad you mentioned U.S. Agent, because I think that he's the only new character that's any good. The problem is, he can't reach his full potential because the writers are desperate for me to hate him.
Why not just let it stand alone as a piece of cinema independent of a consolidated body of work?
deadpool 4 'Deadpool kills the universe and causes a reboot of all franchises'
movie ends with deadpool saying 'you're welcome'
But will Disney really do it tho? Plus with Ryan Reynolds saying it's his last movie so
@@MasterGordon5115 it was just a joke
@@chouinardfrancais Don't give me false hope man
doesn't need to save the MCU, just has to not suck.
Fr I just want to see a great Marvel movie. Just for once.
@@acewalker there are great choices to watch in 90% of productions
@@acewalker No Way Home and Guardians 3 say hi.
"Seeing Jackman interact with Evens and Downey would've potentially been iconic, but that time has passed"
Don't reminds us😭
Last year, the grifters tried to hype us up by leaking Avengers: Secret Wars. Apparently, after the MCU Avengers lose, the TVA rebel against Kang and rally a band of multiversal heroes (the Fox and Sony characters) to stop him. Tobey Maguire, Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds are the main stars.
Obviously with Jonathan Majors being fired, the movies will be retooled like hell. The threat of Kang was essentially nipped in the bud with Loki now in charge of all the timelines.
Despite this, Deadpool and Wolverine kind of confirms that the leaks were true. Even if the movie is amazing, it'll be on par with Spider-Man: No Way Home and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 in that it's a golden nugget amidst the horseshit.
Your second paragraph is what I’ve seen saying. How is Kang supposed to be a threat if Loki’s existence as the “God of Stories” is a thing? He holds the Multiverse together and is basically the most powerful being the MCU has seen. He should easily be able to prevent the existence of Kangs within the Multiverse/Timelines (or whatever they’re supposed to be) and/or prevent Kangs from outside his tree of universes from getting in.
Ur a lowlife
I just want Deadpool to not be ruined by Disney first. Then we can decide if he can save a whole cinematic universe.
Deadpool was ruined along time ago
they didnt but ruined wolverine and sabretooth with dumb costumes and made them look like clowns and soft
The only way the MCU can save itself is if it cancels the whole "Woke" media and stop writing characters to be overpowered.
the characters being overpowered isnt the issue the problem is hiring people based on DEI and race politics and forcing all of that into the movie. if you think the only bad part about the "woke" people being hired for these jobs is that they make overpowered characters youre incredibly wrong and missed the real issues.
@@knabdankthe mcu now is so bad, casting people for their woke crap simply because they want to adhere to the audience? Yet these movies are so bad and flop hard that it’s hilarious since the audience they’re trying to cater to dont watch these things and instead just love to complain on twitter
Bro if they change every character to be a white guy it won’t save the MCU. This isn’t about “DEI” and “woke”. This is about narrative momentum - more specifically the complete absence of it.
The MCU worked for the first three phases because it kept a solid dependable structure: some movies introduce new characters, some movies are about established characters, finish the phase with an avengers movie, and sprinkle some hints about where the story is going from there. So even if there was a movie you weren’t interested in watching, you were more likely to watch simply because you could get more info about the overall story.
Phases 4-5 have completely dropped the narrative momentum. We are 10 films and over a dozen television shows in and there has not been a single avengers movie. And we won’t be getting one until 2026 (if they even stick with their plans).
@CouchRadish It kinda of is, mostly in an indirect way. Instead of focusing on good writing, they are more focused on politics. Not just woke politics but also corporate politics. Worrying about marketability in China is a part of it. Politics has ruined the MCU because Disney put an emphasis on politics, instead of what people want, passionate writing. Not at fault of any good writers mind you, they really don't get any creative liberty
If every villain is an Avengers Level Threat, no one is.
I don't want it to "save the MCU". I just want a good movie.
Seriously, MCU already died in 2019, if anything it should be unrelated to the MCU.
@@tylere.8436I think it is
People complain how marvel is so bad then once they try to make a change people spit on it.
"Don't ask questions, just comsume product then get excited for next product."
I’m 22 years old so that means Wolverine was really slashing before ol’ son was born, crazy thought.
Same, X men 1 came out in July 2000, I was born in October 2000, I’m 23.
I don’t care about the MCU anymore. It’s done. It got trashed. I just want to see a good marvel movie for once 😭
The only people that are saying this film will save the MCU are those that are suffering from “cope.” I expect Deadpool and Wolverine to receive the same criticism that GotG Vol. 3 got, one of the few film that is getting praise and not audible groans. Still, it’s funny that this is what we’re hearing now. The MCU is dead and they expect a third Deadpool film featuring Wolverine FINALLY rocking the yellow/blue costume to help revive it. They do know that after this film we're getting Falcon cosplaying as Capt. America and they expect people to have seen the D+ series before 2025.
agreed... the problems viewers have with the MCU will not be erased or forgotten by release of Deadpool 3... the gender and race swapping of main characters, promoting identity politics, constantly belittling and mocking the audience (especially the male audience), retroactively destroying and humiliating main male characters and much much more...
WTF does suffering from cope mean, my brain hurts just reading that oxymoronic line. Suffering and cope are opposites it’s like saying you’re drying from wet, like what in the entire fucc? And this is why the internet is so toxic because idiots like you swear you are so much smarter than everybody else lol.
Also Sam Smith took the mantle of Cap in the comics, Steve Rodger’s decided to age himself out the franchise, so everybody knew Sam Smith was going to get ONE movie as Cap to lead into Secret Wars at which point they will recast Steve Rodger’s. What is the problem?
And FAWS will have been out for like 4 years by the time Cap 4 drops even tho you really only need to have saw Endgame to know Sam is Cap.
Your a lowlife
Falcon taking on the mantle of Captain America is canon. Everything else I agree with.
@@ArmyWolves there is no change of race.
Falcon is black, he also becomes Captain America in the comics
Hugh Jackman's Wolverine in Deadpool 3 is from the 2013 movie The Wolverine, at the end of the movie we see him get that yellow suit when he gets on the plane with Yukio .
when you bring up nostalgia it makes me realize that in the next 10 to 20 years they'll have little to no nostalgia to work off of sometimes. and this will be after because of the last 10 years of slowly failing industry already.
Dang it, never thought of this !
get ready for a re awokening
@@festungkurland9804 lol !!!
Disney is so desperate, I wouldn't be surprised if this movie makes a billion dollars, shawn levy will be the director of Avengers 5
If it isn't woke af, it will make 1.4 billion easy
@johndodo2062 oh the imaginary enemy "wOkE"
@@bullylowenthal2683 you leftists cam act like it dosent exist all you want most people arnt as restarted as your kind
@@johndodo2062 no way it earns that much, it'll probably earn a little over a billion
@@bullylowenthal2683the imaginary enemy that destroyed the entertainment?
I don’t think is so imaginary .
Man, imagine Hugh Jackman and Robert Downey Jr. on screen?!
Don't forget Chris Evans
Secret Wars will have that. IF people are patient.
People aren't hero fatigued, their shit fatigues.
It’ll be the anomaly just like no way home then back to business as usual based on Disney’s conference call. I’ll enjoy the hell out of this movie nonetheless.
GOTG3 was an outlier as well. It just shows you how constricting the massive continuity of the MCU is to future films now
"The trailer has 365 milion views"
Okay but are those gonna be 365 million sold movie tickets?
It’ll make a Morbillion dollars more than Morbius
hehehehe! nice @@TheMovieCynic
@@TheMovieCynic👏
It's October 15, 2024 3:00AM Pacific Time.
Deadpool & Wolverine currently sits at $1.333 billion.
I just came across your channel yesterday and I can't get enough. I look forward to watching your previous videos and your future ones as well. Thank you It is a great combination of being informative yet hilarious.
Glad to hear you’re enjoying the channel, thank you sir!
It really is almost frustrating how it’s taken 10 years for this. Blah blah legal stuff blah blah they didn’t have the rights to the x men but sheesh you would think these greedy companies would come together and make an x men/ avengers movie seeing the money making opportunity by now. So that’s not an excuse in my opinion. 10 years to get Deadpool and wolverine in the MCU all it is is a desperate attempt to bring back fans after screwing up over and over. Never thought I’d say it but if this movie is any less then an absolute banger of a time marvel is DONE!
I still can't get over how Dead Pool is less and less looking in any shape disfigured.
From what I gathered, Disney shamelessly wanted to include their Phase 4 & 5 failures into DP3? RR told them to go pound sand, or he walks.
He built this franchise from the ground up, and doesn’t want failures such as Miss Marvel She-Hulk, Echo or Agatha piggybacking onto this franchise, since they don’t have audience of their own.
If true, good on him, cause without RR….there is NO Deadpool!
Forget the saving of the MCU,that shit is dead for most people with common sense.
That won't stop Deadpool for having a chance to be at least good.
Lol
Your so dumb, the mcu ain’t dead at all
Deadpool doesn't know about the TVA. So, they are reintroducing them for the people who hasn't seen Loki.
I don't know if I agree that Jackman can't keep playing Wolverine for much longer. He doesn't look a day over 40.
Gay
@@JoeyJame?
The mcu is going through what every movie genre has been through. It’s no longer profitable and viewers/producers are moving on to the next thing.
people forget this
i can’t believe the whole “marvel/star wars/disney sucks” bit is still interesting to some people. i think this channel could actually be more than that.
Yea it’s so tired by now
You are a mindless sheep 🐑
"Add Wolverine in ". !!
Thats exactly what the makers of Deadpool 3 are thinking. !!!
This video is like fat shaming someone who is actively and successfully making a change
All our fav Avengers are gone or turned into lesser forms (Thor & Hulk). Deadpool 3 has potential to be good, but i don't see how it fixes all the current problems with MCU? This is a Swan Song for the Fox Marvel projects, thats how i'm going into it.
Even if Iron Man, Black Widow and Steve Rogers came back, they can't save the MCU.
Yeah because there fates are still dependent on writers with woke agenda
The second I saw the TVA's appearance, my mind automatically went to "dead on arrival".
I have never seen any of the Loki or Disney Plus series for the simple reason that I just don't have Disney Plus and don't intend to get it, so for the TVA to be here means that they expect the audience to have watched Loki to know what the TVA is, which I don't even know except that they're an organization that exists "outside the multiverse" or something.
Yes, this was kind of an issue during the Golden Age of Marvel. To watch Avengers 1, you needed to have watched Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor, but the films were both accessible to everyone during the theater release AND through home media like DVDs and Blu-Rays. I dont know if Loki is on Blu-Ray, it might be, but it still doesnt take away from the fact that it was primarily locked behind Disney's walled garden.
I might be dramatic with saying it's dead on arrival, but what made the Deadpool movies special was that they were their own titles, and this was them taking it and putting it in with the other LEGO pieces that make up the MCU, so it's no longer its own thing like how Joker 2019 isnt part of any continuity.
Someone speaking the truth.
Super hero fatigue plays a huge part, especially since Hollywood keeps farting out bad ones. Deadpool, Wolverine, Batman, and Spider-Man are all that's left that the majority of people will still go out to see. Even if Deadpool 3 were to "reboot" the whole MCU, Disney will still mess it up with their terrible activist writers and lack of passion/respect for the source materials and the fans.
It's gonna be super nerfed , Reynolds has become super woke lately , not to mention taylor swift is bringing her fans with her so you know damn well they're going to play it as safe as possible to avoided offending that demographic
11:00 movie wasn’t even bad. People hated it because it was mutilating characters from the comics
Yeah,only dead pool i guess. It had lot of cool moments
That aspect is that the reason its bad
Of course it can't. Nothing can short of retconning the last fews movies/shows and bringing back most of the old cast/hiring proper writers. Or taking a multi-year break, rebooting and building from the ground up
Lol
“I’m gonna say something and then repeat it 5 times differently” - this video 😂
I don't even see the MCU as a "U". Each film has to stand on its own and I hope that DP3 can achieve that.
Deadpool 3 might save the MCU but they have to stop tv series like she hulk secret invasion etc...What we need is a good movie like deadpool 3 to make us excited for the next MCU future.
Knowing how Disney are now, If they do anything now it's gonna flop
I thought they said they where going to focus on bringing quality movies instead of tv shows
"Here's a picture of me, showing a picture of me, holding the box."
Hell to the naw naw naw 😂😂😂
Naw Naw Naw Hail !
"The sound of a company shitting itself" nicely said Cynic. This movie is a band aid over the sucking chest wound that is the current MCU. I used to be a huge fan, but I'm only mildly interested in this s obvious member berry bait. I think your panel's BO predictions are pretty fair. Guess we'll wait and see, cheers.
Regardless of this movie being good or not... am I fuck paying to see it Disney & Marvel need to do a fuck ton more than "Nostalgia" to earn my money again.
It's a pirate life for me.
The movie is going to suck the moment that becomes ""Loki s3 propaganda""", i dont care the MCU references but making a plot to drop the xmen is going to suck like THE MARVELS dropping Beast, not by the plot just by using a movie to promote other movies
As a long time Marvel fan, and someone also disappointed with most of the recent MCU films... I'm excited for 'Deadpool 3' but also excited to see that character stepping into the MCU.
The secret wars? Please do not let these idiots that know nothing about the Secret Wars or anything else in comics anywhere near the set.
The deadpool movies were always kind of their own thing to the side of the big marvel universe, and that's kind of what makes them special. Definitely the first marvel movie I will watch in years.
QUESTION: Why is the TVA ran by humans and still successful when most of them are just humans with zap sticks? This is supposed to be an organization that can control time and all beings in every universe which is very hard to believe. Are you telling me characters and variants of characters like Thanos, Ebony Maw, Thor, Doctor Strange, Ego (Quill’s dad) or Hulk couldn’t handle a group of humans with sticks? I highly doubt that. Anyway, you know things at Disney are bad when the only parts of the Deadpool trailer fans dread were the parts connected to the MCU. Everything Disney touches these days implodes so I’m just concerned because I want to love this movie. As always, I agree with your take, Movie Cynic.
Well, new Fantastic 4 will surely save MCU if DP3 couldn't. *NOT*
It's not about a single movie, they need to hire better directors and not woke it up.
Super hero fatigue isnt a thing watching crappy movies and shows fatigue is a thing though. I really hope they get it together
As a kid in the 70's who loved Marvel superhero comics I knew they were all inter related but I never bothered to try and keep up with them all, I couldn't even if I tried since I was a kid with limited resources cheap as comics were back then (a quarter each!!!!) and so I dipped in and out of the stories that featured my favorite characters , Spiderman, Hulk, Avengers, etc... often out of sequence and sporadically and they were always a lot of fun never knowing the full over all story and enjoying the adventurous moments at hand trying to piece it all together in my little mind. When I got older and began following it all much closer much of the mysterious fun evaporated, too much of a "good thing" maybe and it all became a big bore. The "cinematic universe has at least replicated that experience for me.
I’m conflicted about supporting this movie because Marvel is a such two faced bastard.
They were so focused on the MCU that they discarded X-Men and Fantastic Four characters across various games such as Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite resulting in an apparent death of such a legendary series because of petty movie politics
Now they’re overly relying on X-Men to save their MCU
There isn't superhero fatigue. There is bad movie in the skinsuit of beloved characters fatigue.
It's more MCU fatigue than anything else. I'm honestly sick of multiverses and marvel formulaic humor. Deadpool and Spiderman are still huge because they are bigger icons than Marvel itself as a brand. Them being attached to the tired MCU just feels like a downgrade.
@@tylere.8436 I agree. But that multiverse crap we are tired of is because they way WAY overused in an attempt to seem complex while just showing how poor their writing is these days.
I have enough of Marvel as of late. If they want to make shit right - they need to somehow reset the timeline (what was hinted at in the Deadpool and Wolverine leaks), add Spider-Man to the fold, let him join the X-Men for a trilogy. Then sprinkle it with some OG Blade (maybe a darker - vampire plotline or something - to make it different) and bring NEW COOL CHARACTERS. Leave Avengers alone and just make it exciting again. We don't need to reheat an old meal here.
The MCU needs a reboot with the OG characters and new (young) actors and new writers
That's exactly what they're going to do with Secret Wars if everyone would just have patience.
@@Dandods So what? Secret Wars is just gonna wipe out everything MCU did after Endgame and just start slate clean?
@MasterGordon5115 It'll wipe out everything they've done from the beginning of the MCU and start clean. Now, it may be a soft reboot, meaning some things from before might cross over, but essentially, it's a way to get EVERYONE back in the Marvel Universe. So they could have a new Iron Man, new Cap, new Black Panther, etc, as well as having ALL the new MCU X-MEN and Fantastic Four, and a fresh Avengers line up. It's a way for them to do everything they've never been able to do because of rights. Endgame was just a small glimpse. People truly have no idea what's coming, and if they can pull it off, we will have a Marvel Cinematic Universe that much more closely resembles the Marvel Comic Universe, with all our favorite heroes fighting together.
@@Dandods Doubt people would love to see it all over again with the way how Disney has been running ship. People have really given up at this point
@@MasterGordon5115 fair assessment, but you're completely wrong.
I feel like people are saying this will save the mcu because they think deadpool is going to kill everyone.
I really hope deadpool kills every new shit character they introduced in phase 4 so they can just start again with actually likable characters. Don't think that will happen though
To each their own. I’d rather Logan’s Wolverine had his last outing in days of future past rather than Logan
Agreed, he saved everybody and then everybody just dies again? Bunch of horse manure
I agree that Deadpool & Wolverine won't save the MCU
BUT
This movie can and WILL bring people back to Marvel movies and cinemas and even potentially give them faith into the MCU. So, if people who are responsible for Marvel movies and shows will keep making actually good projects instead of whatever phase 4 and 5 were, then we can honestly say that MCU is saved. But for now, let's hope that we'll at least get a good Deadpool movie!
Nope.
I'll wait to see if they screw the pooch on this movie, but outside of Deadpool, I'm done.
This movie will at most give Disney a "i will try the next movie" card for some people if it's good. I am glad i haven't watched anything except Spiderman since Eternals, because Eternals made me fall effin asleep.
@@DarkSun123456789 exactly my thoughts. They just must NOT waste that pass!!
Man I gotta say you look so much better without blue hair. You don't have to peacock, MC- you're good just the way you are.
They are already crapping on the animated series. I guess we'll see if this is gonna be good or not. The trailer certainly looks good.
Are you on crack X Men 97 looks lit.
Bruh they made Morph into a non binary woke character. They still putting wokeness in their shows and movies! @Byronic19134
@@Byronic19134 and Morph now goes by they/them pronouns
@@darthsol658you can't just throw woke into your sentence you have no idea what it even means
@@user-mz9xo3hx1h I do
_"Superhero fatigue"_ isn't real. What people are tired of is how similar everything has been for the last *_12 years.._*
The comic genre can literally co-exist with any other genre.. the storytelling potential is limitless. It is a never-ending goldmine... The suits are just too greedy & stupid to see it. Everything's gotta be a part of a cinematic universe & go on for 30+ years instead.
Just seeing the TVA in the trailer made me less hyped for this. And I’ve been counting the damn days til it’s released.
I was enjoying the trailer and the second I noticed the TVA, I thought of the MCU, which triggered an instant dislike, and I immediately lost so much of my excitement. It was so bizarre... I didn’t even think about it, it was just literally an immediate feeling.
BRO
WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RATE EVERY PRODUCTION?
IF U ASK ME, THAT'S WHAT IS WRONG WITH MOVIES NOWADAYS.
BECAUSE OF HATERS LIKE THESE, COMPANIES TRY TO HARD TO BE BETTER THAN THE LAST AND THAT CAUSES THEM TO FAIL.
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO WATCHING MOVIES JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT?
NO CRITICISM LIKE YOURE THEIR DISAPPOINTED FATHER OR SOMETHING
The TVA scared me. This is the only movie Chapeck greenlight. I can see Igor sacrificing it
I never understood loki hate
The TVA needs to step in reset the entire Marvel writing staff
Every video saying “iTs SaVe McU” I roll my eyes
3:57 also agreed on the fan service cameos more than quality focus
Literally people think because there will be a bunch of cameos will save the mcu
Nobody cares about Deadpool 3 saving the MCU, we're worried about the MCU dragging down Deadpool 3.
Hugh Jackman looking like he's 60 years old, still playing Wolverine lol This new movie really kills the great ending that the character had in Logan.
Hey Tom Cruise is 60 and still doing stunts, so we'll see how well Jackman is in action...
How is it ruining Logan?
Because Logan (Wolverine) died in Logan. His story was concluded and Hugh Jackman was done playing the character. Now it seems like they're just bringing him back for a desperate attempt to cash in on the beloved character.@@TheNerdWhoKnocks
It's an alternate timeline, just like Logan is an alternate timeline. Also pretty crummy ending for Logan since he helped saved everybody in Days of Future Past only for everybody to be just killed off again IMO
I’ve been watching these videos lately, and I disagree with most of the RUclipsr is making these videos about this movie may not be good or this movie won’t save the marvel universe whatever. I usually never comment, but the only thing I want to disagree with is the amount of money that you and your panel are predicting it is going to make. If the previous movies made 800, million by themselves, imagine one that is not only going to have the Deadpool fan base but it’s going to have the Marvel cinematic universe fanbase, the X-Men fan base and the casual movie goers plus is the only marvel movie releasing this year that is easily $1 billion movie.
Nah bro you dont understand after 4 years of bad movies deadpool will clean all of that and we will forget everything they have done for a single movie
I'm not paying to watch this. There's too many ways to see it without giving Disney money. I'd suggest nobody pay for Deadpool 3. There's going to be DEI in it. That's why Ryan and Hugh are pissed with Disney
im utterly unconvinced deadpool will even be any good
Hollywood announcing a new production is akin to a deplorable threat, as far as the audience is concerned.
Agreed: it’ll make some cash just like Guardians 3, then the M-She-U will go back to its money laundering ways
Idk, even if they de-wokeified everything and focused on adapting fan favourite story lines, I'm just so superhero'd out at this point. We've had nearly 20 years of comic book adaptations fed to us, I'm over the genre as a whole. It's time to find something new and refreshing
I could care SOOO Little either way.. I've NEVER liked the Wade Wilson version of the Deadpool character so none of his movies hold any weight for me and in fact find the first one felt very formulaic and generic and the second film grotesquely homo erotic with all the innuendos and open ayG jokes littered in it.... those films and comic stories are made for kids on the spectrum so that does nothing for me.....
so you have a problem with people on the spectrum then? using it like an insult
@@ZColony some of you are intolerable, yes... just like u right now cutting strait pass my point to talk about how my post has affected you like that's relevant...
@@billybadass3056 your right to live a sad hateful life
@@billybadass3056 as if being on the spectrum makes someone less then anyone else. People that have your veiwpoint dont tend to care about anyone but them selves
@@ZColony you're a joke for proving me right... piss off.... of course you WON'T though since you are on that spectrum and will now act like a child and *try* to have the last word..
I didn't know Ryan Reynolds said he was quitting the role of Deadpool after this
but that's definitely not gonna help Disney/Marvel
he would probably still come back for Secret Wars but even then...
I’d just keep expectations low to stay on the safe side
It's not Superhero Fatigue, it's people being sick of shitty writing. If Marvel hadn't gone to shit people would still be as excited.
Thanks for another entertaining overview.
Regardless,
super hero movies for adults reminds me of Bobcat Goldthwait's answer to why he hadn't seen the latest Star Wars movie:
"Because I'm over 40, and I've been laid"
yeah, I don't care about this movie. I didn't even check out Deadpool 2, and as much as I appreciate Jackman I've been ready for a more comics-accurate Wolverine for a while. Best of luck to these guys, but I'll be renting this when it's $4
Echo has already saved it 😅
Joking. He’s joking. …right?
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access I hope so
towards the start of the video all i was thinking was "are quippy low blows your shtick?" but you started making sense by the end of it
My brother in Christ
The movie isn't even fucking out dawg
My guy, one Deadpool film isn’t gonna save the MCU which most common sense have abandoned at this point.
Nobody said the films not gonna be good, but this isn’t saving the franchise.💀😭
The only thing this Deadpool is going to save is the $6 I usually spend to rent a movie…
Deadpool is not going to get rid of all the dead weight in Disney and Marvel. The same writers that brought She Hulk are still going to be around and employed at Marvel.
The media calls every new movie or show the MCU saviour. It's just sad now.
Deadpool 3 will be another nostalgia bait movie like Spiderman NWH.That relied too much on nostalgia to carry the movie,while having little substance.
Your so fuckin stupid, NWH wasn’t nostalgia bait nor is Deadpool 3
It can’t save the MCU b/c it’s sandwiched between wack movies and Disney plus shows… just like Gaurdians 3
No offense to Ryan Reynolds, but I'm waiting until it's free and I'm not talking about Disney+
Unable to rival the IMAX experience.
Nice, me too
3:00 I love Tarantino, but so much for Tarantino saying people don't care about the actors anymore, only about what hero they play. Yea nuh. I never subscribed to this.
Once a generation grows up with one hero and he gets swapped, that will be gg for most viewers. Would anyone care for a new Iron Man? no
This is supposed to be a… huge act, man.
HA!
The only way I will ever trust Marvel again is when Disney kicks Bob Iger and Kevin Feige to the curb and their replacements declare publicly "f*ck ESG/WEF"
🫵😂
“I didn’t watch the video”
@@TheMovieCynic I watched every second of
I also find it hilarious how spot on this video was. The movie was indeed 1) not going to save the MCU and 2) was a good movie on its own merit, like the video predicted and hoped for.
@@TheMovieCynic1. Too early to tell if it’s gonna save the mcu. 2. It does a great job of showing what the mcu could use the multiverse for. I believe this movie can and will save the mcu based off of the pure fact that it shows you can have new stories outside of the “sacred timeline”. I for one am excited to see what the mcu takes from this film. Just wait. You’ll see.
Idk what you laughing about the movie was mid at best its just funny and has hella fan service good to watch once and thats about it mcu still dead