Two big reasons why modern Disney movies are failing: 1: Most of their properties rely on audience nostalgia, but you can't get nostalgic about something that refuses to go away. 2: The lack of original stories, replaced with remakes and spinoffs, is because coming up with new and original movies requires creativity, and investing in them requires taking a financial risk. Disney is a corporate bureaucracy, and is thus capable of neither.
I agree with all of your points but you forgot one: Disney’s outright refusal to fire people that are consistently turning Billion dollar IP’s into absolute dirt.
You are ABSOLUTELY right! Why hasn't that happened yet!? They qould fire their production workers, no question. But when it comes to Kathleen Kennedy or Kevin Fiege and what they've been turning out, nope, completely untouchable
There's a question I have regarding that. Have they done anything that's actually immoral (examples: really insulting tweets/speeches, sexual assault, murder)? Because I don't think the IP thing is enough for a reason to fire them, but that's just me.
@@CarloNassar When you have something that can generate billions of dollars in revenue, and all you do is cause said IP to hemeridge money. That is reason enough to be fired. Disney is in the business of making money not losing it.
They fire plenty of actors who say or tweet stupid shit, as if that was a reason to lose your job. I stopped watching the flash and the mandalorian because actors were fired for no good reason. Now.... Most people probably won't just dump shows like me, but I don't have time to watch everything I want anyway so there are worse reasons to dump shows :).
People have seem to forgotten that the Pixar company was formed by former Disney animators who formed their own company. To say that Disney “acquired” Pixar basically confirmed Disney’s strategy of buying out any creative competition. This is the basic model of Disney.
Acquiring instead of creating seems to be slowly doing them in now. Their best eras and movies were when they were smaller and had much more competition, because they had to hire the best and to take creative risks. Now they're just doing rote films and shows with no creativity, their movies are overproduced and dull, and they are destroying most franchises they touch.
@@belstar1128 There was actually a mini documentary about how the Pixar folk struck out on their own because they had chafed at the draconian interference of corporate Disney. As far as why they sold said competitive corporation back to the original tyrants, who can say.
It's honestly very simple. Competition breeds innovation. Disney itself saw that back when Don Bluth left the company, proceeded to hand Disney its *entire* ass at the box office, and then Disney made better products in response. But now that they own everything, there IS no competition. They have no reason to try and do better. Until they stop owning everything, we will get nothing but stale crap no one wants to see.
Competition should be supported and praised. Also executives from the higher ups of any major studio corporation should have their finger in the creative process of a film director, writers, producers, and etc. Don't give a unreasonable harsh time schedule for vfx artist, editors, and anyone involved in the film and show making process.
MS is even doing the same thing with Activision Blizzard & ZeniMax, making everything exclusive to PC & Xbox platforms. When they fully acquired Rare from the Big N, the quality of Rare took a serious nosedive and there was little to nothing being done with the studios.
@@KTJohnsonkidThunder They even censored Conker when they remade it. A game that was originally made for the Nintendo 64 but Microsoft and X Box censored it. Fortunately I still have a working N64 and Conker’s Bad Fur Day and I have most of the good games Rare made for Nintendo’s systems except for the Donkey Kong Country franchise.
I've always had a rather bitter dislike for the company since they bought Pixar and for leaving traditional animation which they stemmed from. It's only time that they are crumbling from their own arrogance and greed. They won't go away given their assets right now, but they will probably be looking for the highest bidder if they persist in their losses.
I may be in the minority but I really enjoyed Quantumania. It just goes to show a movie that is "not bad" and part of the MCU is not enough to be successful anymore. Good or bad what matters is whether it gathers enough audience to make money. But Disney has lost sight of what made them successful in the first place and instead hell bent on pushing a social agenda their audience doesn't want.
That’s why the „extreme“ form of capitalism isn‘t good either. Capitalism needs some rules at least to function. Disney buying Marvel, Pixar, Lucas and 20th Century Fox should have been against some law…which I thought existed in the US but well.
It's funny how the marketing of Disney movies changed from "hey, look at this wonderful story with a colorful cast of characters, that you can enjoy with the whole family" to "hey, did you know that a bunch of bigots are attacking our movie? come to see our a movie to prove that you are not a bigot", trying to guiltrip the audience to watch their horrendously lazy productions, it always cracks me up 🤣
Corporations can't believe in anything but their own success (Disney owns FOX News). They can't, and wouldn't voluntarily drown themselves to own bigots. Either a LOT of people aren't worth their salary, or someone's numbers are going up. There's likely a reason Disney's faces talk politics on Twitter, and not on posters and TV ads. They still do the colors and wonder, fun for the whole family, adventure of a lifetime (again) spiel on more traditional media.
I'm with you in this, but I'd rather see this company die faster, otherwise they'll get a chance to recover and see this as a chance to sell actual trash at the general public again for ten years at least.
Good point! I realized this when I watched Mary Poppins two. This was nothing more than a money grab! Terrible movie, and a huge disservice to the original. That was the last time Disney got any of my money.
@@steveroberts9222 There isn’t a Mary Poppins two. And Mary Poppins Returns was a surprisingly good movie that did service to the books. The original film was notorious for changing the character and making her nice. Mary Poppins Returns kept her snarkier attitude and intrigue that are found in the books. Though it still deviates from the books as the movie is a sequel more towards those. Also Dick Van Dyke dances on a desk in that movie and I wish I could still move like that in my 90’s.
@@jamesbarbour8400 No, the Woke stuff works if it's implemented properly. it's the Fauxke stuff that needs to go. you know, the stuff that people call woke that isn't actually woke. Bad writing is one such fauxke thing.
My uncle once said "Never beg people to take your money." This is what Disney expects of longtime fans. I don't know how a company can claim they're making films for "fan service" while simultaneously attacking fans over perceived bigotry. I'm personally sick and tired of it and IMHO they deserve to go bankrupt.
It's no longer valid to claim that it's perceived bigotry when that element is crystal clear after so many years of the same exact rhetoric against minorities in media. Woke? What does it really mean and why does the term keep being brought up when it's minorities in media? Seems awfully familiar it keeps being brought up every time.
Honestly as a star wars fan, I think the best thing Disney could do would be to let go of my favorite franchise and stop raping it for money. They're the worst thing to have ever happened to my beloved franchised.
Same here. I’ve reached apathy at this point. I’ll always have the original trilogy, tainted as that is now by having the sequel trilogy basically undo all the accomplishments of Luke, Han, and Leia, but I just don’t care about it anymore.
@@YT1300MF What sequels? There’s only 6 movies. The originals and the prequels. The only sequels I know of exist on fan fiction websites and Disney just adapted the works of 12 year old fan fiction authors.
I really wonder what made Disney think destroying Luke fucken Skywalker's character and replacing him with the biggest Mary Sue in history think that was a good idea an that everyone will jump on board. Holy fuck what a shit company.
“ Give the people what they want” Disney has done the opposite of that for almost a decade. The sad part for me and I’m sure others is, it feels deliberate.
Disney: Oh come on folks, what am I doing wrong?! Person 1: You race swap characters! Disney: We only did that so we won't look like racists! And it's called diversity! Person 2: You made every female character OP! Disney: Do you want us to p*** off feminists by making women look weak?! Person 3: You shove LGBTQ down our throats! Disney: Hello, LGBTQ is a thing now! Person 4: You remake animated classics into live-action garbage! Disney: I thought you people loved nostalgia! Person 5: You shut down Blue Sky Studios! Disney: They were too expensive! ....plus I already have Pixar. Pixar: Hi. Person 6: *sighs sadly* Face it Disney, your an empty shell of your former self. Why can't you just open your eyes and wake up already? Disney: I- *is unable to think of something to say, and leaves with no argument*
@@SomePkmnlovingdude The irony of swapping is that you essentially give other cultures the message that they are only relevant for being in a copy of a western story.
I grew up a 5-minute walk from Disneyland and had a mother that worked there for 33 years so imagine what people like me feel about this disaster. I actually met Walt Disney as a kid a few times and walked the halls underneath the park many times. Everything we grew up is completely gone now, I mean everything. The Woke generation has completely taken over this corporation so don't expect anything to change for the better.
@@wyattgeorge9696 yup. They very clearly have people at the top who want to shift the moral structure of society and individuals. And that is worth infinitely more than money. Plus, most of the time, they own a whole bunch of other stuff that people don’t realize they own, so they end up getting their money too anyway
What bothers me most is the wholesale destruction of legacy characters like Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones to promote new characters. Leave the legacy characters alone and simply create the new characters in a quality way. Disney’s failure to understand this is the reason I have no empathy for their current failures.
The fact Disney has a clear monopoly in the movie industry, and is literally buying it's competition and nobody is looking to do anything about it is very telling.
The reason why is that it will always fall no corperation will surivive if they get too big. The only way they can surivive is with the government which it , the government, gives the ability to create a monoply through increasing regulation etc. These regulations won't really matter to Disney or any other giant corperation because they are able to just eat it small bussiness can't. Sp when all these small bussinesss fall or get consumed by a bigger corp. It will leave a industry with few competition.
It is a bit ironic. There was a content creator for children that, about 35 years ago, realized that the only way they will stay in business is that if they paid more attention to quality than to quantity. The company I am talking about is Nintendo. They realized that the strategy of crapping out as many low-quality games as possible for the sake of profits was what destroyed Atari. Note that a third-party game maker is only allowed to make up to 5 games per year for a Nintendo console. This mindset helped Nintendo a lot. The new Zelda game (Tears of the Kingdom) was released five years after the last one (Breath of the Wild). The buildup of hype and the advances in the game engine has led to elevated sales. On the other hand, Capcom released a new Megaman game every year, with little improvement in each subsequent title. This destroyed what was once a promising franchise. Disney could learn something from Nintendo.
The fall of Disney only goes to show that no matter how well off and powerful an empire or entity might seem, if they let their pride get the best of them, they are destined to fall.
The reason fall down to nothin more "Disney has heavily overestimated its value in people's live, at this point the big budget movies are as much valuable as a RUclips video to the audiences, and non ironically, the RUclips videos have a greater entertainment value at almost 0 cost."
Disney forgot they needed writers. Good writers. Writing is not easy, you can't just hire someone who used to write blogposts on Buzzfeed, but that's all Disney seems to hire nowadays...
Reminds me of people who spend a lot on their wedding day and cheap out on the photographer. A good photographer can make even the most basic wedding look amazing. But an expensive wedding can look like total shit if you hire someone because they're cheap.
Here's my secret: I don't. I don't watch anything Disney, after End Game & The Force Awakens. I gave up sports after athletes starting kneeling. Meaning, I don't watch TV, I don't watch anything streaming (nothing), and the only sport I watch is UFC. I don't miss it in the slightest. Although, I do enjoy watching the dumpster fires from the comfort of RUclips and various channels here. I enjoyed Star Wars, grew up on comics and love Marvel, etc. I gave it all up, and don't consider it canon. Just like they destroyed the comics with liberal propaganda, they destroyed the movies. Know what's funny? They chased off their main audience. This is all Gen X childhood. We are the ones with disposable income, homes, and children. Once they lost me - they lost my wife and kids. If my kids ask, I tell them it's garbage now. They say, ok, and no longer care either. I saw Sound Of Freedom, though. Great movie.
@@trooperjoe73 Same. I basically don't watch anything you can see is pushing their stupid ideology from a mile away. I think a lot of people feel the same way and its the reason why they are losing money now.
@@trooperjoe73 I commend you fellow Gen X'r. Same here, I tell my kids it's all garbage. My daughter wanted to watch the new Little Mermaid. I told her absolutely not, because it's garbage. Their movies were the highest grossing these past few years because we got to see our childhood come to life PROPERLY on the big screen. And then came THE MESSAGE! and we all tuned out. Voting with your wallet is the only way to show them what's up.
It took you 22 minuets to say: Corporate suits tried to drive the Creative Bus...and should have let artists lead the company...like they used to. It's essentially what happened to the music industry.
I still can't believe the hubris of buying Star Wars for 4 Billion dollars and just launching into movies with no plan whatsoever. They absolutely thought they couldn't fail.
Disney went from getting everyone excited to the next movie to a point where whenever people hear that a movie is being produced by Disney, fans fears that something might go wrong. If people fears your product instead of being excited for it, that's a bad sign. Not to mention that went a movie or series flops they now blame the audience instead of keeping their mouths and fingers shut and rethink what they did wrong. Either they learn from their failures and clean the brand's image or continue to insist on getting politically involved and collapse like a tower being demolished.
I don't think over saturation is really contributing to the downfall of disney. If they were pumping out good movie after good movie, I'd be out there with my kids all the time watching them. The issue is that even ignoring the social issue they feel the need to spam, the writing of these movies is just hot garbage and they actively hate the people who the movie is supposed to be written for. Disney has been down this road before though. They just need to have the guts to clean house and get some people in whose focus is on writing a good story, not using a kids movie as their personal soap box.
I really am proud of all the people standing up to Disney like this! Me and many others have discussed these problems for YEARS, and I’m glad more and more people are waking. While I do want Disney to return to normal and it will happen, there are many of you that have said that Disney first needs to be reduced to ashes before it becomes good again; And I am totally with those people.
disney's new style of dollar-store writing earned this unsustainable failure. i'll never forget the twerking she-hulk. way to go writers and disney studios... you failed in only the most obvious way by forgetting about your core audience. all of these results have been earned (garbage in, garbage out). i'll never forget the blaming of fans, with labels such as rrrrrrrrracist, toxic, and every -ist and -phobe word they had in their quiver for us. a solid f. and u. has been earned. it will take decades to recover.
If they think 6000 dollars for a family is a reasonable price for a Star Wars hotel, they've lost their goddamn minds! Ohh... How the Mighty have Fallen!
I used to dream about working at Disney when i was a kid up until i was a teen. I watched every single release on opening night. I bought all the products i could. Its absolutely devastating to realize i dont care a bit about this company anymore. I resent it. Even the movies i used to love so much, used to watch every other week, dont have the same effect anymore because of the bitter taste i get from comparing their golden days to now. Its insane. I hate this.
Disney: lacks mass appeal to boys Disney: buys up Marvel and Lucasfilm to correct this Disney: pushes girl power crap into properties that appealed to boys
@@ballsackboi505 uhhh no. pixar movies are 98% male led and dominated. and don’t forget tarzan, lion king, aladdin, hercules, pinocchio, atlantis lost empire, and more.
In regards to the large push of diversity/social justice themes in a lot of recent Disney properties, I think it’s important to remember how political opinions, social issues, messaging about diversity, etc., has always been incorporated into filmmaking, or any sort of media. I think the difference between then and now is the capacity in which they do it. I consider myself a film lover, and I love seeing subliminal messaging, or the thoughts/opinions of writers/filmmakers put forward in an artistic way. Even if I don’t agree with the point they’re making, I can still appreciate the level of thought that goes into those messages being put forward in a meaningful and interesting way. Nowadays, it feels like every Disney property does this big song and dance about diversity and inclusion, and it repeatedly slaps you in the face as you watch anything they make. It’s like I’m being talked down to for an hour and a half during each movie I watch. I have no problem with race or even gender swapping of characters if the actor/actress is the best person for the role and genuinely fits a character really well. You brought up Zoë Kravitz and Jeremy Wright in another video as their roles in the Batman. They were both outstanding, and genuinely fit their roles extremely well. But often it feels Disney casts minorities just so they can get articles written about them and garner social points, even if that actor/actress doesn’t fit the character at all. Its like they have a checklist for every movie they make to include minority x or gender y and it’s not only lazy, but outright putting pandering before putting out a great and passionately made film.
Hit the nail on the head. When hiring for diversity becomes your main priority and the constant in-your-face political discourse, you vilify the audience. When you vilify your audience, you end up driving a wedge between your audience and your product. Political commentary in film isn’t necessarily a bad thing, like you said. If it flows with the story and doesn’t overbear the story beats, it can actually open up room for discussion, in some cases it can expand, challenge, or change a person’s own beliefs. However, Disney’s messaging just feels too overbearing. It doesn’t make me think or open up possibilities to challenge my beliefs. It reads like their own messages were adapted from Twitter and I can’t help but eye roll at the obvious messaging.
It's like Star Trek. People always say "Star Trek has always been woke". I know. _That's one of the reasons I liked it._ Star Trek: Discovery introduced a trans character just to have a trans character. It was obvious because they wrote him off the show as soon as they could. What's the point? If you want to tell stories about trans people you need to *tell stories* about them. Don't just have them exist and act like you've done something amazing. When Star Trek: The Next Generation did a story about gender identity I liked it because it actually said something. Now they want applause just for doing the bare minimum. All right I have to stop because I could talk for hours about how much NuTrek shits on all the work done by people for decades to create a franchise that was a cultural juggernaut and is still loved to this day.
@@crakhaed It was pretty good but I think it stumbled badly towards the end. SNW is acceptable but I still don't understand why every freaking character needs to have a traumatic backstory. Pike's haunted by trauma that hasn't even happened yet! _Lower Decks_ was rough at first but I stuck with it and it *really* grew on me. It's the only NuTrek show that gets the spirit of Star Trek right. Hell, I had the day off today and rewatched the entire third season. At this point they need to do a Next Next Generation and move on, especially from Spock. For people my age (I was born I 1981) "Star Trek" means TNG, DS9 and VOY. That indicates that the franchise doesn't have to keep going back to the well of old characters to be successful. Ever since the 2009 movie it seems like producers think "Star Trek" is only the Enterprise, Kirk, Spock, Klingons, Khan and Tribbles. It is and can be so much more than that.
@@BiggieTrismegistusyou're right. star trek was always about understanding each other and working together for a brighter future. It was never done to look good or be trendy, it was done with genuine heart. It's a shame that feeling has been quietly fading away.
you THINK Disney won't completely die, but there are abandoned theme parks all over the world. No company is immortal. This gives me hope Disney will die and let us have the stories of our culture back. They've RUINED copyright law. It's time for Karma to bring them down :)) I'm boycotting everything they make, good or bad, to do my part in bringing down the evil giant. I know lots of people are doing the same. It's only a matter of time. They forgot they needed our money, thought themselves above us... if they remember to serve us, and quickly - they'll die.
As millennial, i think we were at fault. As my generation got older and into the writing, producing, exec roles, our politics had overwhemled decision making and made it impossible to assess a situation with an honest take. Its the only way I can think of that makes sense of why woke tactics continually fail yet companies like disney tell shareholders a completely unrelated reason for why something failed.
rey is literally the worst mockery of a 'character' that ive ever laid eyes on in my entire life. i pray for Lucas, as insane as he can be, buying star wars back from disney and declaring everything disney has made as non-canon. im willing to make that faustian deal.
Buying FOX and not immediately starting production of X-Men movies was the stupidest move and just waste of money from Disney. That alone explains that company is in hands of idiots.
Ehh, I kinda disagree. They had to find a way to make mutants existence make sense. They had to find a way to explain why people in the MCU love superheroes and hate mutants. Apparently, the plan is to lay the grounds for that in Deadpool 3, which from the leaks seems like the most exciting and well realized Marvel movie since Endgame. Three bad years does not exactly seem like a death knell. I'm still gonna hold off on the whole DISNEY IS DEAD thing juuuust a bit longer.
I hope they go broke in every way I can imagine. The woke remakes are one thing, but trying to avoid the law and replacing their artists fully with ai is just such a scummy move and shows how dystopian Disney really is. I hope they go down, together with Universal who are just the same
@@Oscar95451 They‘re the same as disney in terms of ai. Atm they‘re trying to find any possible loophole to get rid of their human artists and to replace them. Money hungry bastards. And the worst part is that they’re doing this while there are still strikes going on
@@taki7546 Don't think there's any truth to that, various courts have already ruled against any copyright claim to AI-generated works, so if Disney or Universal were using AI in their productions then they'd lose the rights to it in which case anybody could use it freely for whatever purposes they wanted
@@cm3368 If that's the case then why are the strikers freaking out about it? Why is literally every news source that covers the strike taking AI deadly seriously?
I’ve always hated modern disney. Blinded by greed causing them to ruin countless classics. Buying beloved and popular franchises just to milk all of what it’s worth. I wish the old disney was back, the one to make their own original stories without being a Mr. Krabs of franchisees.
Disney needs an intervention. In order to make a change, they need to first identify and accept responsibility for their actions. That means they need to finally accept that they are the problem, not the fans. They need to get rid of anyone associated with any failing movie/show.
Not having a plan for the sequel trilogy is mind blowing. Spend 4 billion dollars and then just wing it. Now Star Wars has around the same prestige as the Fast and Furious franchise
Nobody, but nobody was a bigger fan of Disney than I… So, if their crazy business decisions and ridiculous antics could make me rejoice in their downfall, it could happen to anyone. Disney has no one to blame but themselves. Poor old Walt would be turning in his grave to see how they butchered his beloved empire.
"Disney won't ever disappear entirely" Yeaaah, tell that to Sears, Blockbuster, Kmart, Radioshack, Tower Records, Toys-R-Us and Sports Authority - to name just a few who people thought would always "be around." lol
Gotta hand it to Bob Iger & co. They managed to destroy one of the most (if not the most) recognizable brands in history in a little more than a decade. It's a shitshow, a beautifully chaotic shitshow.
The problem with having your hands on so much I.P. is that you need intelligent, creative, well-versed individuals capable of manipulating and articulating that I.P. into new stories and experiences that are actually worth engaging in. Instead of doing that, Disney battened down on twisted ideological representation and soulless box-checking. They've gotten everything that they deserve. Get ready to see Disney theme parks covered in overgrowth and weeds.
Frenchman here. The Disney magics was not purely American, it was international. I'm 66 and I still have fond memories of the Disney comics that my parents and grand-parents bought me in the 60's - in French of course. The oldest emotional movie experience I can remember of is when one of my aunts took me and my cousin to a theater in our local town to watch the Jungle Book, then the lastest Disney movie. My own children, now in their 30's and 20's, were brought up on videos of the Disney classics, the firs song my 30-year old daughter was able to learn was the Snow White "house cleaning song". We've visited Disneyland Paris four times, and when I was younger I visited Disneyland in Anaheim while on a vacation in the US. This long explanation just to say that my family and I were Disney fans... we WERE Disney fans... nowadays, none of us won't even consider spending one penny on a new Disney movie or the three-hour drive to Disneyland Paris. I keep my old videos and DVD's of the real Disney movies like a treasure.
They also switched from entertaining to influencing. A few other things are going this route and it's costing them. Many news outlets went from informing (relatively) to influencing. You see this trend. Certain companies with certain sorts of people at the helm use the years and or decades of value and trust built to influence. Everyone's caught on at this point though. The tank is about empty and we're seeing the results.
I'm excited for the fall personally, I would love to see Disney shatter into thousands of small start-up studios so we actually get some creative freedom again.
I would love to see disney to back to its roots and make 2D animated movies. There is just something about their older animated films that feels different and expressive in its own way.
Hard to have empathy when they thought their brands were powerful enough that they could ignore quality and shove in as much agenda as they wanted to no consequences.
I hate to be this person because i always hated when old people did this when i was young but things were better in the past. There might be one or two movies a year that actually make me hopeful for the future of film, this year so far was barbie. In the past I would be over the moon with excitement for the next block buster film, but now id much rather pick up a book by a lesser known author because the film market is over saturated with soulless adaptations of previously loved characters and stories. I could go on about this for hours but the gist of it is that disney along with many other entertainment powerhouses have lost all their heart and focus on profit rather than creativity, forgetting what caused people to love those things in the first place.
It’s not super hero fatigue. The problem is 100% the terrible writing focusing on radical political agendas instead of telling a good story. They used to hire writers based on talent and now they hire them based on skin color.
@@JonathanGaeta i agree. With the exception of phantom menace, I liked the rest of the trilogy. We really should have just kept our fucking mouths shut.
"My name is Disneymandias, King of Corporations; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
seeing 2d animations as primitive is the most stupid thing ever that I keep hearing over and over from people. 2D animations are timeless, and they are not inferior to 3D animation at all! it's the opposite actually! cause 3D animations are limited to the technology available and over time they will age and look bad, while 2D animations rely on artistic styles and they are timeless!
Their re-imaginings of old films is one of the laziest things we've ever seen from a film studio. It's half-assed nostalgia bait. If they wanted to add diverse stories and characters then they should've written new stories and created new characters. I'd happily watch a film based on African and/or Asian fairytales. That would take too much time, money and effort on Disney's part so they pretend to care about diversity by just throwing a bone via race and gender swaps. Anyone who thinks Disney actually cares about diversity, I've got a bridge to sell you. Edit: What family of 4 can afford a 2 day hotel stay for $4,000??? Most families save money for years just to be able to go to Disney. It's insane that Disney thought that would be successful.
Their was supposed to be a African disney princess film like years ago I don't remember what it was called just that the princess's name started with a s. No idea what happened to that.
I honestly love Disney. Though I hope they continue to fail...hard. It's so wild to me that they believe like they can pump out the same garbage and think that people will eat it gladly. There is absolutely no originality, creativity, or anything worthwhile. I hope that this is a turning point for them to wake up, and go back to producing movies that we love.
I honestly think that allot of us did love " Disney", when they were creating stories that had heart and made sense. Your statement says what I probably would have said. were I to have hired a good copy editor years ago, with tact! I knew Bob Brunner (original orchestrator of Bambi) and he used to invite me to come to the set of productions, probably because he knew I had a great love horses, dogs, animals, in general, and was always concerned about how they were being treated. A childhood friend of mine that I used to ride ponies with back in Illinois, had introduced me to Bob , as a man of integrity and lover of children and animals...ha nature. Karen Jean Olsen. (We wrote the song "I Need a Miracle" as a wedding song for LDS Members, as she and I thought the old standard didn't include enough spirituality in it, and wasn't specific to Christianity.) I gave my children's musical stories to Bob, and he referred me to several of friends in the 'animation production" area but they all knew (I guess one might term it "contempt?") contempt for some stupid mouse as a toy for children! My little character, "Honey" was depicted as a conservative little eight year old cello player, who was raised in the values of the Midwest...who didn't like amusement parks, loved real animals and creating useful items of her own...Bob said, "Honey might have her time-but it's not now...because fantasy and escape is so popular.!" Of course his terminology was much more exquisite and descriptive than mine. "Honey" (I suppose like the creator/author/composer) doesn't desire to visit Disneyland...her opening line in " Beauty is as Beauty Does" was... "Man Will Go Where He's Never Gone Before--- Hopefully, HOME!" (Since the character, herself is the victim of a "broken home" Ha) Her father works out of town for Big World Airlines...(Everythng else appears to be "big" to Honey, because she feels so "small.) When the children make fun of her and her "broken " home", her reply is " Our home isn't broken...we FIX EVERYTHING!" (And, she does!) When "Honey Visits With the Famous First Four", in her "Presidents' Story" and jumps on stage to try to add a bit of humor to Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Madison's evening string quartet scene, she claims that their music is "Just too Old!" Jefferson reminds "her" that music doesn't get old, PEOPLE do... I had it edited as a story but went on to musicals three and four, instead of pursuing it. Honey's is the star of "Honey and the Hayburners" and a Christian Christmas musical, " Honey Visits With Christmas Eve." Why am I sharing this with you? Well, Ironically, when I called the copyright office ask about copyrighting the character , the songs and the stories, the clerk came back to say, "Lynda, we think you can copyright on several FORMS...as we haven't had a copyright of a "character " who's drawings and stories, stage shows and musicals this complicated, since Walt Disney copyrighted his Mickey Mouse. The irony being, of course. HONEY would never be interested in being "entertained by" A MOUSE. Surely she could have a pet hamster though? I used to call my brother (who was an accomplished saxophonist and cellist btw)and he'd say "I think your on to something, especially since allot of PARENTS think Mickey Mouse is STUPID!" Well, I'd disagree with him; Mickey Mouse was extremely well produced..and I, myself have such difficulty finding collaborators, as I hate writing script FORM, as much as I hate filling out COPYRIGHT FORMS! As "Honey" would say, " it takes a whole community of helpful people to make a SHOW." She would say, "I can't do this all by myself!" When I found an extremely competent and creative classical guitarist, on Soundcloud, and he was willing to understand both my country, folk and gospel songs, AND coped with my sense of humor...I sent to him , several of Honey's theme songs from all five of her musicals. He turned her song "Time Goes By" and "One Enchanted Evening, I Found an OLD friend" into string quartets for me. All I could do was sing the different parts, so I was only able put it on You Tube "as a song." In reading YOUR comment, I'm inspired to again find writers out there who could understand "Honey" and her plights; She's not Pippi Silkstockings... (as Bob had suggested btw) She's a little girl from the Midwest who LIKES her environment, isn't worried about finding FANTACIES to "jump in to." But is just a little "spark" of a child who doesn't NEED "Hollywood" in order to enjoy her own little life! Do you know writers who might "enjoy" reading about/hearing songs from..."Honey Unlimited!?" Copyrighted again with twenty more recent songs, in 2016. "Lost in a Song About You" "One Enchanted Evening, I Found an OLD Friend" "Time Goes By" from " Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" "Beauty is as Beauty Does" from the musical by the same title. LyndaFayeSmusic@Yahoo/Soundcloud/Bandcamp
Same. As someone who loves old Disney to 90’s, early 2000’s to early 2010’s pre-2013-2016-2020 aka NOW, I just want the company to keep failing till they go bankrupt… Every last few long lived passionate Disney people aren’t safe from the bigger evil corporate higher ups who are constantly breathing down their necks to produce garbage.
People were bashing Pokémon S/V for similar reasons to newer disney products: having bad performance and bad graphics, or bad writing and actors for Disney, but DIsney deserves this hate MUCH more. Yes, that is indeed REALLY bad, but everything else about the game is absolutely amazing: Best story since Black and White, fun gameplay that encourages the player to Catch Em' All, and it even nerfed some of the biggest threats ever (Like Zacian for example). While both Pokémon and Disney are multi-billion franchises, the people that create products for Pokémon are still allowed to put passion onto the prooyect by the corporate, and if Minecraft has taught gamers something, it is not to judge a game by its graphics. If it wasn't clear from my way of talking about the game, I LOVE the newer Pokéon titles, (except Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, of course) and I don't see the ''decline'' fans are talking about, games have been getting better since Ultra Sun and Moon.
Star Wars was just slaughtered... the franchise is DEAD. Which anyone could of predicted when they had J.J. Abrams for the first movie, the man is known for destroying every franchise he touches. People don't talk about star trek or star wars like they used to before Abrams touched those franchises.
@@hobogardenerbeneoliberal Capitalism wasn't created at Bretton Woods. John Maynard Keynes was intimately involved in the creation of Bretton Woods system so it was based on Keynesian economics. Neoliberalism was formulated in the 1970s as a rejection of Keynesian thinking and was supposedly a throwback to the liberal capitalism that allegedly existed before the ideas of Keynes (and Karl Marx) took hold. Basically neoliberals said free markets are everything, the profit motive is everything and the government shouldn't be involved in the economy at all. Pretty much every prediction made by neoliberal economists has proven to be wrong and no one (not even the right-wingers who absolutely adored them less than a decade ago) takes them very seriously today. I also disagree that JJ Abrams is a symptom not a cause of the problem. No one hires JJ Abrams for political reasons. They hire him because he's a hack who makes big dumb movies that dumb people enjoy.
Two big reasons why modern Disney movies are failing:
1: Most of their properties rely on audience nostalgia, but you can't get nostalgic about something that refuses to go away.
2: The lack of original stories, replaced with remakes and spinoffs, is because coming up with new and original movies requires creativity, and investing in them requires taking a financial risk.
Disney is a corporate bureaucracy, and is thus capable of neither.
Also don't forget they're starting to lose their monopoly over the mouse, Steamboat Willie entered the public domain.
I agree with all of your points but you forgot one: Disney’s outright refusal to fire people that are consistently turning Billion dollar IP’s into absolute dirt.
You are ABSOLUTELY right! Why hasn't that happened yet!?
They qould fire their production workers, no question. But when it comes to Kathleen Kennedy or Kevin Fiege and what they've been turning out, nope, completely untouchable
There's a question I have regarding that. Have they done anything that's actually immoral (examples: really insulting tweets/speeches, sexual assault, murder)? Because I don't think the IP thing is enough for a reason to fire them, but that's just me.
@@CarloNassar When you have something that can generate billions of dollars in revenue, and all you do is cause said IP to hemeridge money. That is reason enough to be fired. Disney is in the business of making money not losing it.
@@matthewrosenthal753
That's understandable, but I'm still not sure.
They fire plenty of actors who say or tweet stupid shit, as if that was a reason to lose your job. I stopped watching the flash and the mandalorian because actors were fired for no good reason.
Now.... Most people probably won't just dump shows like me, but I don't have time to watch everything I want anyway so there are worse reasons to dump shows :).
People have seem to forgotten that the Pixar company was formed by former Disney animators who formed their own company. To say that Disney “acquired” Pixar basically confirmed Disney’s strategy of buying out any creative competition. This is the basic model of Disney.
Acquiring instead of creating seems to be slowly doing them in now. Their best eras and movies were when they were smaller and had much more competition, because they had to hire the best and to take creative risks. Now they're just doing rote films and shows with no creativity, their movies are overproduced and dull, and they are destroying most franchises they touch.
I thought Disney bought pixar right after toy story came out
@@belstar1128 There was actually a mini documentary about how the Pixar folk struck out on their own because they had chafed at the draconian interference of corporate Disney. As far as why they sold said competitive corporation back to the original tyrants, who can say.
this is the way.
Pixar already had a relationship to Disney since Disney distributed most of their films,them buying star wars and marvel was a bigger surprise.
It looks like the CEOs are deliberately trying to destroy Disney, all I can say is, keep up the good work.
Totally, Totally agree.
This is actually bittersweet and sad. We all knew Disney used to be good. But nowadays...
It's honestly very simple. Competition breeds innovation. Disney itself saw that back when Don Bluth left the company, proceeded to hand Disney its *entire* ass at the box office, and then Disney made better products in response.
But now that they own everything, there IS no competition. They have no reason to try and do better. Until they stop owning everything, we will get nothing but stale crap no one wants to see.
Competition should be supported and praised. Also executives from the higher ups of any major studio corporation should have their finger in the creative process of a film director, writers, producers, and etc. Don't give a unreasonable harsh time schedule for vfx artist, editors, and anyone involved in the film and show making process.
Same happen to the NFL video game Madden, no competition means the same crap every year.
Reminds me of when wwf bought wcw and ecw
MS is even doing the same thing with Activision Blizzard & ZeniMax, making everything exclusive to PC & Xbox platforms. When they fully acquired Rare from the Big N, the quality of Rare took a serious nosedive and there was little to nothing being done with the studios.
@@KTJohnsonkidThunder They even censored Conker when they remade it. A game that was originally made for the Nintendo 64 but Microsoft and X Box censored it. Fortunately I still have a working N64 and Conker’s Bad Fur Day and I have most of the good games Rare made for Nintendo’s systems except for the Donkey Kong Country franchise.
As a long time Disney hater, I couldn't be happier. Monopolies are inherently anti-consumer, especially in media.
I Hate Disney since I was a Child.
I've always had a rather bitter dislike for the company since they bought Pixar and for leaving traditional animation which they stemmed from. It's only time that they are crumbling from their own arrogance and greed. They won't go away given their assets right now, but they will probably be looking for the highest bidder if they persist in their losses.
I may be in the minority but I really enjoyed Quantumania. It just goes to show a movie that is "not bad" and part of the MCU is not enough to be successful anymore. Good or bad what matters is whether it gathers enough audience to make money. But Disney has lost sight of what made them successful in the first place and instead hell bent on pushing a social agenda their audience doesn't want.
@@4lackofbetterbut wasn't Ant-Man himself was side lined.
That’s why the „extreme“ form of capitalism isn‘t good either. Capitalism needs some rules at least to function. Disney buying Marvel, Pixar, Lucas and 20th Century Fox should have been against some law…which I thought existed in the US but well.
It's funny how the marketing of Disney movies changed from "hey, look at this wonderful story with a colorful cast of characters, that you can enjoy with the whole family" to "hey, did you know that a bunch of bigots are attacking our movie? come to see our a movie to prove that you are not a bigot", trying to guiltrip the audience to watch their horrendously lazy productions, it always cracks me up 🤣
Disney must think the whole world is nothing but racist bigots at this point. 🙃
Corporations can't believe in anything but their own success (Disney owns FOX News). They can't, and wouldn't voluntarily drown themselves to own bigots. Either a LOT of people aren't worth their salary, or someone's numbers are going up.
There's likely a reason Disney's faces talk politics on Twitter, and not on posters and TV ads. They still do the colors and wonder, fun for the whole family, adventure of a lifetime (again) spiel on more traditional media.
If Disney does happen to go down I really hope fox becomes independent again. It did not deserve to get absolutely demolished by Disney
Nothing I love more than witnessing the slow painful death of Disney in real time
For what they did to Star Wars, I'm enjoying their utter collapse after destroying the franchise with their fucken trash
I'm with you in this, but I'd rather see this company die faster, otherwise they'll get a chance to recover and see this as a chance to sell actual trash at the general public again for ten years at least.
My issue with it is that they're taking everything they own down with them...
Same
It wasn't fatigue of the property that did them in. It was fatigue of poor writing.
Good point! I realized this when I watched Mary Poppins two. This was nothing more than a money grab! Terrible movie, and a huge disservice to the original. That was the last time Disney got any of my money.
@@steveroberts9222 good on you!
@@steveroberts9222 There isn’t a Mary Poppins two. And Mary Poppins Returns was a surprisingly good movie that did service to the books. The original film was notorious for changing the character and making her nice. Mary Poppins Returns kept her snarkier attitude and intrigue that are found in the books. Though it still deviates from the books as the movie is a sequel more towards those. Also Dick Van Dyke dances on a desk in that movie and I wish I could still move like that in my 90’s.
And all the woke crap !
@@jamesbarbour8400 No, the Woke stuff works if it's implemented properly. it's the Fauxke stuff that needs to go. you know, the stuff that people call woke that isn't actually woke. Bad writing is one such fauxke thing.
My uncle once said "Never beg people to take your money." This is what Disney expects of longtime fans. I don't know how a company can claim they're making films for "fan service" while simultaneously attacking fans over perceived bigotry. I'm personally sick and tired of it and IMHO they deserve to go bankrupt.
It's no longer valid to claim that it's perceived bigotry when that element is crystal clear after so many years of the same exact rhetoric against minorities in media. Woke? What does it really mean and why does the term keep being brought up when it's minorities in media? Seems awfully familiar it keeps being brought up every time.
Walt Disney is turning so fast in his grave that we could give the entire world enough electricity.
Honestly as a star wars fan, I think the best thing Disney could do would be to let go of my favorite franchise and stop raping it for money.
They're the worst thing to have ever happened to my beloved franchised.
Had such hope for the sequel trilogy. Sad it ended up being just trash.
Same here. I’ve reached apathy at this point. I’ll always have the original trilogy, tainted as that is now by having the sequel trilogy basically undo all the accomplishments of Luke, Han, and Leia, but I just don’t care about it anymore.
Middle aged nerds ruined Star Wars before Disney got it. In fact they are the reason it was sold to Disney in the first place.
@@YT1300MF What sequels? There’s only 6 movies. The originals and the prequels. The only sequels I know of exist on fan fiction websites and Disney just adapted the works of 12 year old fan fiction authors.
I really wonder what made Disney think destroying Luke fucken Skywalker's character and replacing him with the biggest Mary Sue in history think that was a good idea an that everyone will jump on board. Holy fuck what a shit company.
“ Give the people what they want” Disney has done the opposite of that for almost a decade. The sad part for me and I’m sure others is, it feels deliberate.
But they set box office records in 2019. The people who liked outnumbered those who didn’t for a while
@@DoctorDestyNova box office doesn't mean good.. just means a lot of people bought garbage in 2019
Disney: Oh come on folks, what am I doing wrong?!
Person 1: You race swap characters!
Disney: We only did that so we won't look like racists! And it's called diversity!
Person 2: You made every female character OP!
Disney: Do you want us to p*** off feminists by making women look weak?!
Person 3: You shove LGBTQ down our throats!
Disney: Hello, LGBTQ is a thing now!
Person 4: You remake animated classics into live-action garbage!
Disney: I thought you people loved nostalgia!
Person 5: You shut down Blue Sky Studios!
Disney: They were too expensive! ....plus I already have Pixar.
Pixar: Hi.
Person 6: *sighs sadly* Face it Disney, your an empty shell of your former self. Why can't you just open your eyes and wake up already?
Disney: I- *is unable to think of something to say, and leaves with no argument*
@@oSamiSrzo I hope a lot of people are broke now, so they can share my experience of having little money to buy garbage 😆
@@SomePkmnlovingdude The irony of swapping is that you essentially give other cultures the message that they are only relevant for being in a copy of a western story.
I feel sorry for little kids growing up now. The boys think they're doomed to incompetence, and the girls think they have to master kick-boxing.
Also forgot kids wondering what gender they really are.
I'm still confused as to which bathroom to use 😕
I grew up a 5-minute walk from Disneyland and had a mother that worked there for 33 years so imagine what people like me feel about this disaster. I actually met Walt Disney as a kid a few times and walked the halls underneath the park many times. Everything we grew up is completely gone now, I mean everything. The Woke generation has completely taken over this corporation so don't expect anything to change for the better.
What do you mean by everything ans what was Walt Disney like ?
People don’t realize that once you get to a certain level of power, it’s not about the money anymore. It’s about control.
Thankfully didn't work out in this case
Yes, that's why companies continue to be woke, despite losing money
@@wyattgeorge9696 yup. They very clearly have people at the top who want to shift the moral structure of society and individuals. And that is worth infinitely more than money. Plus, most of the time, they own a whole bunch of other stuff that people don’t realize they own, so they end up getting their money too anyway
What bothers me most is the wholesale destruction of legacy characters like Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones to promote new characters. Leave the legacy characters alone and simply create the new characters in a quality way. Disney’s failure to understand this is the reason I have no empathy for their current failures.
I don't care they own the IP, I don't care what they say, to me the sequel movies and the characters in them are not cannon.
@@toreadoress Yep. It's just fan fiction written by people who were never fans.
The fact Disney has a clear monopoly in the movie industry, and is literally buying it's competition and nobody is looking to do anything about it is very telling.
I don’t get why the U.S. Government stepped in to stop Disney
The reason why is that it will always fall no corperation will surivive if they get too big. The only way they can surivive is with the government which it , the government, gives the ability to create a monoply through increasing regulation etc. These regulations won't really matter to Disney or any other giant corperation because they are able to just eat it small bussiness can't. Sp when all these small bussinesss fall or get consumed by a bigger corp. It will leave a industry with few competition.
Nonsense assessment, WB, UNIVERSAL, SONY all Stull exist n make big successful films
@@kurtshastany1945 And Paramount
@@JonathanGaeta Because contrary to popular belief, Disney isn't a monopoly
this is ACTUAL social justice. Disney gets what it deserves and justice is served.
It is a bit ironic. There was a content creator for children that, about 35 years ago, realized that the only way they will stay in business is that if they paid more attention to quality than to quantity.
The company I am talking about is Nintendo. They realized that the strategy of crapping out as many low-quality games as possible for the sake of profits was what destroyed Atari. Note that a third-party game maker is only allowed to make up to 5 games per year for a Nintendo console. This mindset helped Nintendo a lot. The new Zelda game (Tears of the Kingdom) was released five years after the last one (Breath of the Wild). The buildup of hype and the advances in the game engine has led to elevated sales. On the other hand, Capcom released a new Megaman game every year, with little improvement in each subsequent title. This destroyed what was once a promising franchise.
Disney could learn something from Nintendo.
6 year gap between the Zeldas.
6 year gap between the Zeldas.
American companies do not think that way
To quote Zemo: "An empire toppled from the outside can rise again. But the one crumbling from within, that's death, forever."
You had me with the Macho Man Savage edits 😂 RIP Disney
Ooooo Yeeeaaaaaa!!!! ….that’s all I needed to say
RIP Disney, the empire that bite they hand that feed it.
DISNEY'S GOING UNDER.
Hope it burns
The cream of the crop😎👍😎
1.If you hate your customers just close your shop. 2.if you want to be in politics run for office.
When a company tells you they dont want you as a customer, believe them.
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving company.
The fall of Disney only goes to show that no matter how well off and powerful an empire or entity might seem, if they let their pride get the best of them, they are destined to fall.
The reason fall down to nothin more "Disney has heavily overestimated its value in people's live, at this point the big budget movies are as much valuable as a RUclips video to the audiences, and non ironically, the RUclips videos have a greater entertainment value at almost 0 cost."
Disney forgot they needed writers. Good writers. Writing is not easy, you can't just hire someone who used to write blogposts on Buzzfeed, but that's all Disney seems to hire nowadays...
Reminds me of people who spend a lot on their wedding day and cheap out on the photographer. A good photographer can make even the most basic wedding look amazing. But an expensive wedding can look like total shit if you hire someone because they're cheap.
I absolutely HATE the fact that I have to go to ONE company for all my entertainment needs.
Here's my secret: I don't.
I don't watch anything Disney, after End Game & The Force Awakens. I gave up sports after athletes starting kneeling. Meaning, I don't watch TV, I don't watch anything streaming (nothing), and the only sport I watch is UFC.
I don't miss it in the slightest. Although, I do enjoy watching the dumpster fires from the comfort of RUclips and various channels here. I enjoyed Star Wars, grew up on comics and love Marvel, etc. I gave it all up, and don't consider it canon. Just like they destroyed the comics with liberal propaganda, they destroyed the movies.
Know what's funny? They chased off their main audience. This is all Gen X childhood. We are the ones with disposable income, homes, and children. Once they lost me - they lost my wife and kids. If my kids ask, I tell them it's garbage now. They say, ok, and no longer care either.
I saw Sound Of Freedom, though. Great movie.
@@trooperjoe73 Same. I basically don't watch anything you can see is pushing their stupid ideology from a mile away. I think a lot of people feel the same way and its the reason why they are losing money now.
Do what you want because a pirate is free
@@Crackedcripple YOU ARE A PIRATE!
@@trooperjoe73 I commend you fellow Gen X'r. Same here, I tell my kids it's all garbage. My daughter wanted to watch the new Little Mermaid. I told her absolutely not, because it's garbage. Their movies were the highest grossing these past few years because we got to see our childhood come to life PROPERLY on the big screen. And then came THE MESSAGE! and we all tuned out. Voting with your wallet is the only way to show them what's up.
Snow White 1937 made Disney. Snow White 2024 will end Disney.
It would be so poetic if that's the case.
Politics aside I cant imagine how that movie would work in today's age, theres about 10 minutes worth of plot
That could be a big possibility.
@@MultiGamer600 it would be beautiful
Make snow white join kkk
It took you 22 minuets to say:
Corporate suits tried to drive the Creative Bus...and should have let artists lead the company...like they used to.
It's essentially what happened to the music industry.
I still can't believe the hubris of buying Star Wars for 4 Billion dollars and just launching into movies with no plan whatsoever. They absolutely thought they couldn't fail.
Disney went from getting everyone excited to the next movie to a point where whenever people hear that a movie is being produced by Disney, fans fears that something might go wrong. If people fears your product instead of being excited for it, that's a bad sign. Not to mention that went a movie or series flops they now blame the audience instead of keeping their mouths and fingers shut and rethink what they did wrong. Either they learn from their failures and clean the brand's image or continue to insist on getting politically involved and collapse like a tower being demolished.
I don't think over saturation is really contributing to the downfall of disney. If they were pumping out good movie after good movie, I'd be out there with my kids all the time watching them. The issue is that even ignoring the social issue they feel the need to spam, the writing of these movies is just hot garbage and they actively hate the people who the movie is supposed to be written for. Disney has been down this road before though. They just need to have the guts to clean house and get some people in whose focus is on writing a good story, not using a kids movie as their personal soap box.
I cheer every time a Disney film, or other product, flops. They truly suck.
I really am proud of all the people standing up to Disney like this! Me and many others have discussed these problems for YEARS, and I’m glad more and more people are waking. While I do want Disney to return to normal and it will happen, there are many of you that have said that Disney first needs to be reduced to ashes before it becomes good again; And I am totally with those people.
Put all the drug addicts homeless pi’s at the magic kingdom
@-TheMovie_Cynic-Tele-Gram_me benchode
@@ElectricalExistence Stop it!
@@orangeslash1667 why would i stop calling a scammer a name?
@@ElectricalExistence Because your spamming the same vague thing over and over again. It's really annoying.
George Lucas: I sold off Star Wars for future generations to enjoy
That aged liked fuckin' milk
Disney is doing a much better job than DeSantis of destroying Disney.
LMAO, so true. Desantis still the man though, but that was good.
If Disney's doing so good why they raising ticket prices and why are their latest movies doing so horrible
@@roberthernandez7792 you misread his comment. Reread it, slowly.
Reject Disney, Embrace piratebay
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The meme edits on this whole entire video are on point. Excellent commentary as well.
disney's new style of dollar-store writing earned this unsustainable failure. i'll never forget the twerking she-hulk. way to go writers and disney studios... you failed in only the most obvious way by forgetting about your core audience. all of these results have been earned (garbage in, garbage out). i'll never forget the blaming of fans, with labels such as rrrrrrrrracist, toxic, and every -ist and -phobe word they had in their quiver for us. a solid f. and u. has been earned. it will take decades to recover.
Let it burn baby. The Disney I knew has been dead for year’s. Now it’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Well said.
Disney took every single part of entertainment only to self-destruct right away. Leaving us alone in the dark era of the internet. Well done genius.
If they think 6000 dollars for a family is a reasonable price for a Star Wars hotel, they've lost their goddamn minds!
Ohh... How the Mighty have Fallen!
Nice work, Blue. You did your homework and it shows... 👍🏻
I used to dream about working at Disney when i was a kid up until i was a teen. I watched every single release on opening night. I bought all the products i could. Its absolutely devastating to realize i dont care a bit about this company anymore. I resent it. Even the movies i used to love so much, used to watch every other week, dont have the same effect anymore because of the bitter taste i get from comparing their golden days to now. Its insane. I hate this.
My thoughts are likewise.
They really have just exhausted any nostalgia i used to have for them these last years
The classic 2D animated movies will be forever iconic
Disney will fall and we’ll move on
Disney: lacks mass appeal to boys
Disney: buys up Marvel and Lucasfilm to correct this
Disney: pushes girl power crap into properties that appealed to boys
You know what’s funny? Star Wars Legends was full of powerful and cool female characters that newer fans will never know about.
Disney never lacked mass appeal to boys be fucking for real💀
@@Butterfly-ll7mm until recently that is
Toxic femininity.
@@ballsackboi505 uhhh no. pixar movies are 98% male led and dominated. and don’t forget tarzan, lion king, aladdin, hercules, pinocchio, atlantis lost empire, and more.
In regards to the large push of diversity/social justice themes in a lot of recent Disney properties, I think it’s important to remember how political opinions, social issues, messaging about diversity, etc., has always been incorporated into filmmaking, or any sort of media. I think the difference between then and now is the capacity in which they do it. I consider myself a film lover, and I love seeing subliminal messaging, or the thoughts/opinions of writers/filmmakers put forward in an artistic way. Even if I don’t agree with the point they’re making, I can still appreciate the level of thought that goes into those messages being put forward in a meaningful and interesting way. Nowadays, it feels like every Disney property does this big song and dance about diversity and inclusion, and it repeatedly slaps you in the face as you watch anything they make. It’s like I’m being talked down to for an hour and a half during each movie I watch. I have no problem with race or even gender swapping of characters if the actor/actress is the best person for the role and genuinely fits a character really well. You brought up Zoë Kravitz and Jeremy Wright in another video as their roles in the Batman. They were both outstanding, and genuinely fit their roles extremely well. But often it feels Disney casts minorities just so they can get articles written about them and garner social points, even if that actor/actress doesn’t fit the character at all. Its like they have a checklist for every movie they make to include minority x or gender y and it’s not only lazy, but outright putting pandering before putting out a great and passionately made film.
Hit the nail on the head.
When hiring for diversity becomes your main priority and the constant in-your-face political discourse, you vilify the audience. When you vilify your audience, you end up driving a wedge between your audience and your product.
Political commentary in film isn’t necessarily a bad thing, like you said. If it flows with the story and doesn’t overbear the story beats, it can actually open up room for discussion, in some cases it can expand, challenge, or change a person’s own beliefs.
However, Disney’s messaging just feels too overbearing. It doesn’t make me think or open up possibilities to challenge my beliefs. It reads like their own messages were adapted from Twitter and I can’t help but eye roll at the obvious messaging.
It's like Star Trek. People always say "Star Trek has always been woke". I know. _That's one of the reasons I liked it._ Star Trek: Discovery introduced a trans character just to have a trans character. It was obvious because they wrote him off the show as soon as they could. What's the point? If you want to tell stories about trans people you need to *tell stories* about them. Don't just have them exist and act like you've done something amazing. When Star Trek: The Next Generation did a story about gender identity I liked it because it actually said something. Now they want applause just for doing the bare minimum.
All right I have to stop because I could talk for hours about how much NuTrek shits on all the work done by people for decades to create a franchise that was a cultural juggernaut and is still loved to this day.
@@BiggieTrismegistus what'd you think about the new Picard season?
@@crakhaed It was pretty good but I think it stumbled badly towards the end. SNW is acceptable but I still don't understand why every freaking character needs to have a traumatic backstory. Pike's haunted by trauma that hasn't even happened yet! _Lower Decks_ was rough at first but I stuck with it and it *really* grew on me. It's the only NuTrek show that gets the spirit of Star Trek right. Hell, I had the day off today and rewatched the entire third season.
At this point they need to do a Next Next Generation and move on, especially from Spock. For people my age (I was born I 1981) "Star Trek" means TNG, DS9 and VOY. That indicates that the franchise doesn't have to keep going back to the well of old characters to be successful. Ever since the 2009 movie it seems like producers think "Star Trek" is only the Enterprise, Kirk, Spock, Klingons, Khan and Tribbles. It is and can be so much more than that.
@@BiggieTrismegistusyou're right. star trek was always about understanding each other and working together for a brighter future. It was never done to look good or be trendy, it was done with genuine heart.
It's a shame that feeling has been quietly fading away.
Charging 16 bucks for a gas station level burger at their parks is enough to earn an F-off for life
you THINK Disney won't completely die, but there are abandoned theme parks all over the world. No company is immortal.
This gives me hope Disney will die and let us have the stories of our culture back. They've RUINED copyright law. It's time for Karma to bring them down :))
I'm boycotting everything they make, good or bad, to do my part in bringing down the evil giant. I know lots of people are doing the same. It's only a matter of time. They forgot they needed our money, thought themselves above us... if they remember to serve us, and quickly - they'll die.
That's how empires fall. They overexpand and implode - any storyteller or historian knows this.
Look at the Roman Empire.
Disney and Hollywood really going down with the ship over politics is hilarious. All they had to do was not that and this calamity doesn't exist lol.
As millennial, i think we were at fault. As my generation got older and into the writing, producing, exec roles, our politics had overwhemled decision making and made it impossible to assess a situation with an honest take. Its the only way I can think of that makes sense of why woke tactics continually fail yet companies like disney tell shareholders a completely unrelated reason for why something failed.
Well they ran out of ideas a long time ago, so it was just a matter of time, regardless. The wokeness is just a symptom of a greater sickness.
I miss the old Disney, but it is dead and gone. I won’t miss this bastardized, propaganda machine.
I remember when Marvel movies were must sees for me and my family. Now we aren’t even aware when a new one is releasing
rey is literally the worst mockery of a 'character' that ive ever laid eyes on in my entire life. i pray for Lucas, as insane as he can be, buying star wars back from disney and declaring everything disney has made as non-canon. im willing to make that faustian deal.
Lucas is the big reason why star wars failed.
Buying FOX and not immediately starting production of X-Men movies was the stupidest move and just waste of money from Disney. That alone explains that company is in hands of idiots.
Ehh, I kinda disagree. They had to find a way to make mutants existence make sense. They had to find a way to explain why people in the MCU love superheroes and hate mutants. Apparently, the plan is to lay the grounds for that in Deadpool 3, which from the leaks seems like the most exciting and well realized Marvel movie since Endgame. Three bad years does not exactly seem like a death knell. I'm still gonna hold off on the whole DISNEY IS DEAD thing juuuust a bit longer.
I hope they go broke in every way I can imagine. The woke remakes are one thing, but trying to avoid the law and replacing their artists fully with ai is just such a scummy move and shows how dystopian Disney really is. I hope they go down, together with Universal who are just the same
What did Universal do?
@@Oscar95451 They‘re the same as disney in terms of ai. Atm they‘re trying to find any possible loophole to get rid of their human artists and to replace them. Money hungry bastards. And the worst part is that they’re doing this while there are still strikes going on
@@taki7546 Don't think there's any truth to that, various courts have already ruled against any copyright claim to AI-generated works, so if Disney or Universal were using AI in their productions then they'd lose the rights to it in which case anybody could use it freely for whatever purposes they wanted
@@cm3368 If that's the case then why are the strikers freaking out about it? Why is literally every news source that covers the strike taking AI deadly seriously?
I’ve always hated modern disney. Blinded by greed causing them to ruin countless classics. Buying beloved and popular franchises just to milk all of what it’s worth. I wish the old disney was back, the one to make their own original stories without being a Mr. Krabs of franchisees.
Finally someone mentions the ESG score!!! You got a follow because of that
Disney needs an intervention. In order to make a change, they need to first identify and accept responsibility for their actions. That means they need to finally accept that they are the problem, not the fans. They need to get rid of anyone associated with any failing movie/show.
Get Woke, Go Broke !
Disney start with Snow White and wants to end with Snow White. 😂
Its like poetry.... or circle of life.. end and beginning XD
😂😂👍👍
Not having a plan for the sequel trilogy is mind blowing. Spend 4 billion dollars and then just wing it. Now Star Wars has around the same prestige as the Fast and Furious franchise
It has the prestige of one of the cheap straight-to-DVD Fast and the Furious knockoffs.
Nobody, but nobody was a bigger fan of Disney than I… So, if their crazy business decisions and ridiculous antics could make me rejoice in their downfall, it could happen to anyone.
Disney has no one to blame but themselves.
Poor old Walt would be turning in his grave to see how they butchered his beloved empire.
He probably is.
My Parents didn't have to worry when I went to see a Disney movie Now I worry when my kids see one and what propaganda and Wokeness they're exposed to
"Disney won't ever disappear entirely"
Yeaaah, tell that to Sears, Blockbuster, Kmart, Radioshack, Tower Records, Toys-R-Us and Sports Authority - to name just a few who people thought would always "be around." lol
Shhhhh, lefties can’t stand when you bring up reality.
Add Kodak
Gotta hand it to Bob Iger & co. They managed to destroy one of the most (if not the most) recognizable brands in history in a little more than a decade.
It's a shitshow, a beautifully chaotic shitshow.
The problem with having your hands on so much I.P. is that you need intelligent, creative, well-versed individuals capable of manipulating and articulating that I.P. into new stories and experiences that are actually worth engaging in. Instead of doing that, Disney battened down on twisted ideological representation and soulless box-checking. They've gotten everything that they deserve.
Get ready to see Disney theme parks covered in overgrowth and weeds.
Frenchman here. The Disney magics was not purely American, it was international. I'm 66 and I still have fond memories of the Disney comics that my parents and grand-parents bought me in the 60's - in French of course. The oldest emotional movie experience I can remember of is when one of my aunts took me and my cousin to a theater in our local town to watch the Jungle Book, then the lastest Disney movie. My own children, now in their 30's and 20's, were brought up on videos of the Disney classics, the firs song my 30-year old daughter was able to learn was the Snow White "house cleaning song". We've visited Disneyland Paris four times, and when I was younger I visited Disneyland in Anaheim while on a vacation in the US. This long explanation just to say that my family and I were Disney fans... we WERE Disney fans... nowadays, none of us won't even consider spending one penny on a new Disney movie or the three-hour drive to Disneyland Paris. I keep my old videos and DVD's of the real Disney movies like a treasure.
They also switched from entertaining to influencing. A few other things are going this route and it's costing them. Many news outlets went from informing (relatively) to influencing. You see this trend. Certain companies with certain sorts of people at the helm use the years and or decades of value and trust built to influence. Everyone's caught on at this point though. The tank is about empty and we're seeing the results.
I feel terrible for the spirit of Walt himself.
Dont be. He lived a good life, during a good time, leaving a good legacy. He would feel sorry for us if he could see us.
Don't be he was a terrible person
Now he can't step into the Throne of Heroes. 😂😂😂
Nah, you really shouldn't feel bad for a guy like him, unless you are stupid
Nah, fuck em
I'm excited for the fall personally, I would love to see Disney shatter into thousands of small start-up studios so we actually get some creative freedom again.
Do u work for them?
I would love to see disney to back to its roots and make 2D animated movies. There is just something about their older animated films that feels different and expressive in its own way.
This video should be shown to stockholders.
No one would miss Disney if it disappeared tomorrow. They no longer make products people want or care about.
Hard to have empathy when they thought their brands were powerful enough that they could ignore quality and shove in as much agenda as they wanted to no consequences.
I hate to be this person because i always hated when old people did this when i was young but things were better in the past. There might be one or two movies a year that actually make me hopeful for the future of film, this year so far was barbie. In the past I would be over the moon with excitement for the next block buster film, but now id much rather pick up a book by a lesser known author because the film market is over saturated with soulless adaptations of previously loved characters and stories. I could go on about this for hours but the gist of it is that disney along with many other entertainment powerhouses have lost all their heart and focus on profit rather than creativity, forgetting what caused people to love those things in the first place.
It’s not super hero fatigue. The problem is 100% the terrible writing focusing on radical political agendas instead of telling a good story.
They used to hire writers based on talent and now they hire them based on skin color.
That last sentence is so damn real and I’m a person of color as well.
you have it spot on.
the book "when race trumps merit", is a very good read.
George said he felt like he sold his children to slavers. _Great job, George._
Star Wars fans shouldn’t have bullied him because of the prequels and now look at Star Wars
@@JonathanGaeta i agree. With the exception of phantom menace, I liked the rest of the trilogy. We really should have just kept our fucking mouths shut.
"My name is Disneymandias, King of Corporations;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
"..mcu productions went from being events to something youll completely ignore.."
So true 😢💔
Just for trying to repackage the live action remakes, rather than create original content, they deserve to get whacked.
TLDR: Never let a billionaire in charge of anything. Never let a company replace the job of an artist. Never let greed get in the way of creativity.
Amen. If Walt could see what Disney had become, he'd ask for a gun.
I'm never going to support Disney ever again. I'm not even sad about it, just done.
I never supported them
Turns out if you focus on selling people ideas instead of seeling them cool movies, people stop liking you.
seeing 2d animations as primitive is the most stupid thing ever that I keep hearing over and over from people.
2D animations are timeless, and they are not inferior to 3D animation at all!
it's the opposite actually! cause 3D animations are limited to the technology available and over time they will age and look bad, while 2D animations rely on artistic styles and they are timeless!
Well i miss the good Hand drawn Animations from Disney.
Their re-imaginings of old films is one of the laziest things we've ever seen from a film studio. It's half-assed nostalgia bait. If they wanted to add diverse stories and characters then they should've written new stories and created new characters. I'd happily watch a film based on African and/or Asian fairytales. That would take too much time, money and effort on Disney's part so they pretend to care about diversity by just throwing a bone via race and gender swaps. Anyone who thinks Disney actually cares about diversity, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Edit: What family of 4 can afford a 2 day hotel stay for $4,000??? Most families save money for years just to be able to go to Disney. It's insane that Disney thought that would be successful.
You may be giving them too much credit by calling what they’re doing “re-imaginings.” Makes it sound like they’re actually doing something creative.
Their was supposed to be a African disney princess film like years ago I don't remember what it was called just that the princess's name started with a s. No idea what happened to that.
I honestly love Disney. Though I hope they continue to fail...hard. It's so wild to me that they believe like they can pump out the same garbage and think that people will eat it gladly. There is absolutely no originality, creativity, or anything worthwhile. I hope that this is a turning point for them to wake up, and go back to producing movies that we love.
I honestly think that allot of us did love " Disney", when they were creating stories that had heart and made sense.
Your statement says what I probably would have said. were I to have hired a good copy editor years ago, with tact!
I knew Bob Brunner (original orchestrator of Bambi) and he used to invite me to come to the set of productions, probably because he knew I had a great love horses, dogs, animals, in general, and was always concerned about how they were being treated. A childhood friend of mine that I used to ride ponies with back in Illinois, had introduced me to Bob , as a man of integrity and lover of children and animals...ha nature. Karen Jean Olsen. (We wrote the song "I Need a Miracle" as a wedding song for LDS Members, as she and I thought the old standard didn't include enough spirituality in it, and wasn't specific to Christianity.) I gave my children's musical stories to Bob, and he referred me to several of friends in the 'animation production" area but they all knew (I guess one might term it "contempt?") contempt for some stupid mouse as a toy for children!
My little character, "Honey" was depicted as a conservative little eight year old cello player, who was raised in the values of the Midwest...who didn't like amusement parks, loved real animals and creating useful items of her own...Bob said, "Honey might have her time-but it's not now...because fantasy and escape is so popular.!" Of course his terminology was much more exquisite and descriptive than mine.
"Honey" (I suppose like the creator/author/composer) doesn't desire to visit Disneyland...her opening line in " Beauty is as Beauty Does" was...
"Man Will Go Where He's Never Gone Before--- Hopefully, HOME!" (Since the character, herself is the victim of a "broken home" Ha) Her father works out of town for Big World Airlines...(Everythng else appears to be "big" to Honey, because she feels so "small.) When the children make fun of her and her "broken " home", her reply is " Our home isn't broken...we FIX EVERYTHING!" (And, she does!) When "Honey Visits With the Famous First Four", in her "Presidents' Story" and jumps on stage to try to add a bit of humor to Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Madison's evening string quartet scene, she claims that their music is "Just too Old!" Jefferson reminds "her" that music doesn't get old, PEOPLE do... I had it edited as a story but went on to musicals three and four, instead of pursuing it. Honey's is the star of "Honey and the Hayburners" and a Christian Christmas musical, " Honey Visits With Christmas Eve."
Why am I sharing this with you? Well, Ironically, when I called the copyright office ask about copyrighting the character , the songs and the stories,
the clerk came back to say, "Lynda, we think you can copyright on several FORMS...as we haven't had a copyright of a "character " who's drawings and stories, stage shows and musicals this complicated, since Walt Disney copyrighted his Mickey Mouse. The irony being, of course. HONEY would never be interested in being "entertained by" A MOUSE. Surely she could have a pet hamster though?
I used to call my brother (who was an accomplished saxophonist and cellist btw)and he'd say "I think your on to something, especially since allot of PARENTS think Mickey Mouse is STUPID!" Well, I'd disagree with him; Mickey Mouse was extremely well produced..and I, myself have such difficulty finding collaborators, as I hate writing script FORM, as much as I hate filling out COPYRIGHT FORMS! As "Honey" would say, " it takes a whole community of helpful people to make a SHOW." She would say, "I can't do this all by myself!"
When I found an extremely competent and creative classical guitarist, on Soundcloud, and he was willing to understand both my country, folk and gospel songs, AND coped with my sense of humor...I sent to him , several of Honey's theme songs from all five of her musicals. He turned her song "Time Goes By" and "One Enchanted Evening, I Found an OLD friend" into string quartets for me. All I could do was sing the different parts, so I was only able put it on You Tube "as a song." In reading YOUR comment, I'm inspired to again find writers out there who could understand "Honey" and her plights; She's not Pippi Silkstockings... (as Bob had suggested btw) She's a little girl from the Midwest who LIKES her environment, isn't worried about finding FANTACIES to "jump in to." But is just a little "spark" of a child who doesn't NEED "Hollywood" in order to enjoy her own little life!
Do you know writers who might "enjoy" reading about/hearing songs from..."Honey Unlimited!?" Copyrighted again with twenty more recent songs, in 2016.
"Lost in a Song About You"
"One Enchanted Evening, I Found an OLD Friend"
"Time Goes By" from " Honey Visits With the Famous First Four"
"Beauty is as Beauty Does" from the musical by the same title.
LyndaFayeSmusic@Yahoo/Soundcloud/Bandcamp
Same. As someone who loves old Disney to 90’s, early 2000’s to early 2010’s pre-2013-2016-2020 aka NOW, I just want the company to keep failing till they go bankrupt…
Every last few long lived passionate Disney people aren’t safe from the bigger evil corporate higher ups who are constantly breathing down their necks to produce garbage.
People were bashing Pokémon S/V for similar reasons to newer disney products: having bad performance and bad graphics, or bad writing and actors for Disney, but DIsney deserves this hate MUCH more. Yes, that is indeed REALLY bad, but everything else about the game is absolutely amazing: Best story since Black and White, fun gameplay that encourages the player to Catch Em' All, and it even nerfed some of the biggest threats ever (Like Zacian for example). While both Pokémon and Disney are multi-billion franchises, the people that create products for Pokémon are still allowed to put passion onto the prooyect by the corporate, and if Minecraft has taught gamers something, it is not to judge a game by its graphics. If it wasn't clear from my way of talking about the game, I LOVE the newer Pokéon titles, (except Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, of course) and I don't see the ''decline'' fans are talking about, games have been getting better since Ultra Sun and Moon.
What saddens me most about this whole situation, is that I will never live to see a good Star Wars movie at the cinemas again.
Star Wars was just slaughtered... the franchise is DEAD. Which anyone could of predicted when they had J.J. Abrams for the first movie, the man is known for destroying every franchise he touches. People don't talk about star trek or star wars like they used to before Abrams touched those franchises.
@@hobogardenerbeneoliberal Capitalism wasn't created at Bretton Woods. John Maynard Keynes was intimately involved in the creation of Bretton Woods system so it was based on Keynesian economics. Neoliberalism was formulated in the 1970s as a rejection of Keynesian thinking and was supposedly a throwback to the liberal capitalism that allegedly existed before the ideas of Keynes (and Karl Marx) took hold. Basically neoliberals said free markets are everything, the profit motive is everything and the government shouldn't be involved in the economy at all. Pretty much every prediction made by neoliberal economists has proven to be wrong and no one (not even the right-wingers who absolutely adored them less than a decade ago) takes them very seriously today.
I also disagree that JJ Abrams is a symptom not a cause of the problem. No one hires JJ Abrams for political reasons. They hire him because he's a hack who makes big dumb movies that dumb people enjoy.
what a time to be alive. everything we grew up with and that was fun turns to garbage.
I grew up on Disney, but as I got older I've started to realize how bad Disney is
I think overtime they just become a lot more greedy. Old disney was just passionate
Film company makes a good movie
Disney: ill have that one
What i find so ironic is that Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs built the empire. And it’ll be the new Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs that will destroy it.
Their greatest kickstarter into fame will be the final nail in the coffin
How poetic.😌
Man if apple bought out Disney that would be fucking terrible for everyone.
I cannot believe Pixar are making a fifth Toy Story film.
Imagine Disney trying to make a shitty-ass LAR
Sixth. Don’t forget Lightyear. (Or forget it, along with Toy Story 4-it’s probably best.)
Remember when people used to say not even 2 years ago that Disney is too big to fail?
Everyone knows what's wrong with Disney Star Wars Mary Sue woke but this blue hair guy that made this video and said one word about it