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Rebirth at its best is an ok game that rides on nostalgia and great voice acting. At its worst it's a nuisance of a game that blunders the unthinkably easy. It's a bloated mess of a game. Filled with idiotic design choices and story changes that reek of unbelievable incompetence. They nailed the graphics, the voice actors and combat but everywhere else pooped the bed. It's a modern marvel that they nailed the hardest parts and completely dropped the ball on the easy stuff. Withholding characters to boost sales, splitting one game into three, taking a sledgehammer to an iconic story under nonsensical pretenses. Rebirth is in totality a blunder of hubris and blatant stupidity.
@Luigiplaya246 You didn't make a real argument. You just repeated some catchphrase low grade nonsense and then accused me of liking my own comment lol. I didn't but nice try.
The sources said Rebirth didn't meet SE's sales expectation but they aren't underselling or killed SE's sells. All those loses are from their half baked projects and 2 "triple A" projects that are dogshit. And also the CEO trying to invest to NFT's. Right now they are fixing the fiscal trainwreck that has been happening for the past years and the CEO of SE is resigning.
@@watchmehope6560Ubisoft game are not repetitive cause of the do the same thing over and over, but because the activities,enemies, assets are always the same in this formula. Final fantasy rebirth has different and unique enemies even in those side moments, different activities like mini games, 7 different approach based on the character you are using in your party. Rewards are actually meaningful even for mini games, craft system is easy and gives the player a sense of progression. What the hell are you talking about?
What’s most annoying is people thinking square enix is doing this ff7 remake trilogy project a cash grab. The amount of work the devs put into these two games so far have been insane and a cash grab is if they just did a 1 to 1 remake
The game is 90% them just doing a straight up Remake though. And the new stuff is just a commentary on the OG and there’s successful modern remakes all the time…
@@padraicburns9278 agreed. That’s just a poor argument the devs made to justify the changes. I don’t even mind them adding in additional Compilation of FFVII elements but this meta-commentary purposely misleading stuff is just to generate discussion between games. They want the familiarity of the the OG but force in all this stuff that doesn’t jive with the original theme to tell a new story and they end up failing at both
Every other company are doing 1 to 1 remakes and have been incredibly successful and poplar. Square is foolish for doing what they did to ff7. They lost half there fan base
No, the real reason FF7 Rebirth and FF16 failed to each sales expectation is because Square made a deal with Sony to make their games exclusive to one console, instead of making the games multi platform, not everybody can afford a PS5, thankfully Square Enix is no longer doing exclusive games anymore which was the smartest decision they ever made, FF16 and FF7 Rebirth will soon be on the XBox and PC.
Chrono Trigger, Octopath Traveler 2, Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy 6, Triangle Strategy, Dragon Quest XI S, and Star Ocean are my favorite games of Square. I haven't loved a Final Fantasy game since X.
We literally have a video coming in the situation. Also, the third part of Remake is likely coming as an exclusive still because the contracts were likely finished early this year. There is a chance for a “FFVII Collection” that drops on all platforms though!
Rebirth was the best ff game since ff8. The issue is solely related to platform exclusivity, the lack of ps5 systems for the longest time, and inflation in the usa. To give an understanding of how bad inflation is since remake came out. Crunchy roll sub was 8 dollars a month for premium, and now it's 17.99. I promise that the game would have sold better had it been multiple platform release.
People calling Rebirth a cash grab are delusional. What cash? Rebirth is a commercial failure that lost a ton of money. Rebirth is the worst-selling mainline Final Fantasy in the last 35 years. The one that sold less was FF2 and for that era 1.3m in sales was a success
No it didnt what square needs to do is stop spending extra money on all these side projects which are failing. Focus on the main bread and butter established titles. Tbh so many people ive spoken to love ff7 rebirth. Maybe best to make the game not an exclusive and then itll take off even more
I hope, it’s not about you. Many people still like the games they release. Why do you hope for other’s people’s downfall? Says something bad about you.
They lost my blessing too. FF12 was bad. FF13 was terrible. FF14 is good for being an MMORPG I guess. FF15 while I enjoyed it was severely flawed and not a true JRPG more of an action RPG. The FF7 remake/rebirth is just more of the FF15 style gameplay same with FF16. Yes they improved the action combat system, but it's not really a JRPG series anymore. I don't care about the series anymore.
Games like FF7R and FF16 deserve so much more. I think people like to bash SE for petty reasons. And maybe some more casual/mainstream people aren't ready yet to go from CoD/Spiderman and try something more unique. But as a whole for the games industry and the people that generally are very much into gaming. Would the gaming climate really be better without FF?
Haha petty reasons? Guys like me that prefer true JRPG are gonna keep saying we want turn based combat. Notice DragonQuest is still going strong. The gaming climate has amazing stuff like Baldurs Gate 3, Divinity 2, and from Squeenix you've got Octopath Traveler. The new FF games are just action games with FF theming.
@@Ziegfried82action RPGs are also RPGs. I love all type of rpgs, turn based, tactical, action. Rebirth is far from hack and slash only, it requires a lot of strategy and it’s possible the build unique ways of playing. And yes I like the mechanics implemented for battle in remake project, as for a turn base style? I still got plenty of games to play. Lots of ports are beings released, indie games with turn based style, big budget games turn based like Baldurs Gate, etc. I just think the new approach to battle suits the Remake project very well and you can still see how basically everything was born from the old mechanics
I think there is no saving FF7R part 3 sales. If they invest too much in it I predict Enix will separate itself from Square. As for my favorite Square game? No way I'm telling, I don't want them to touch it and ruin its legacy.
So, they lost 140 million in cancelled half-baked projects, including two Marvel games that got cancelled, one of which was because the movie it was based on also got cancelled and thus the rights make the game was lost. There was a forspoken 2 which got canned. We don't know what else there was, but many of them were with Square as the publisher not the developer. So games they were funding other studios to make.
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"Let's make woke DEI games for the West" + "Let's invest in NFTs that's totally the future." vs. "Hey guys we're sitting on Chrono Trigger and Xenogears and Bushido Blade and Brave Fencer and Parasite Eve and etc etc etc maybe we should do something with those in a respectful, classical way like Rebirth." Square execs pick DEI and NFTs. This is the reason.
Except Life is Strange is one of SquareEnix's most successful games, and its online community is as big as FF. Second, only racists complain about DEI.
I love the Xenosaga games,but you are right. They even tried to make Xenosaga into 5 games. Nobody is gonna wait years for a game to finish their storyline ,only hardcore fans will stick to the end if it takes too long.
If I were SE I would 1. Make sure numbered mainline FF and other AAA titles gets released on all platforms, PS,XB,PC and iterate on the game that came before it. Stop changing the game design for each new title. 2. Push out AA classic JRPG games (that they are known for) on Nintendo, PC, Mobile. 3. Invest heavily on FF14 and its MMO platform. Huge community, solid source of income and good for financial stability.
Nope why should they, Dose Microsoft release there exclusive only games to PlayStation. No they dont so stop being cry baby and just wait the 6 month till they do release it on PC. Xbox isn't worth porting the console couldn't handle it lol
square killed square. console exclusives for initial launches and releases kill square. a majority of gamers that cant afford a ps5 right now highly effect these sales, if it had a pc release along side ps5, it wouldve done numbers. if anything FF even on a bad day, is keep this company alive.
No, it’s “fans” are the ones killing Square. All of these crybabies asking for FF7 to be remade for decades, and then as soon as they get it. These people cry and complain about the small changes made to the story. Even though what they’re doing is literally the best of both worlds. Funny enough, these same people (purists) would be the same people to complain had they done everything exactly the same as the original.
That’s not always the case. Look at octopath traveler. They clearly have data that tells them about sales and then they determine if it’s worth going on certain system since making those ports cost money -Tallen
That’s just not true. Remake is the 2nd most profitable game in the entire series and Rebirth is already 14th and that number with continue to go up dramatically. It’s the other terrible games they’ve released that has caused any problems. So maybe try to think a little bit?
FFXVI and Rebirth might not be the cause of SE's downfall, but it helped contributing this situation. Don't forget that these two games probably costed 100m+ USD each to develop. Sony paid them some, but SE also lost the opportunity to reach more customers and expand the fanbase for the FF series that has been losing popularity in the past 10-20 years. New gen of gamers don't even care about this franchise. The FF brand needs to reach newcomers more than ever before and limiting it to just one console that isn't dominating the market doesn't help. New gen of gamers don't prefer home consoles, and they have short attention, so making FFVII even more complicated than the original and Kingdom Hearts also doesn't help.
Sounds like a waiting game for Square. Early sales might not be important, especially with a small exclusivity window. If it is a three months wait to cross-platform, many might be waiting willingly
Reborth, the irony though, but seriously, there were having financial troubles even its release, but they were also leaning and betting on Rebirth, Which I think this might justify, more money Sony need to give them for the exclusivity deal
There’s no possible way that square Enix LOST money from Remake/Rebirth or 16 there’s just no way, that’s crazy talk i’m sure they probably did lose money, but it wasn’t on either of those titles for damn sure, kind of funny how this kind of discussion is just surfacing now and not 14 years ago ago😏
They didn't necessarily lose money but I'd wager investors made a gross overestimation of sales figures and ended up disappointed. It's why last gen tech is still being supported right now to keep investors happy and with Rebirth being only available on PS5 and Remake was released on PS4 and then PS5 they just overestimated projected sales numbers.
@@murrproductions9654 investors? Sorry, apparently I don’t know much about anything when it comes to the way corporations work, but what does that mean? investors like consumers?
@@brieezy. oh that's alright. Investors just help fund the game and watch the stock portfolios of the company making the game. They also have a financial branch that create projections/predictions of game sales before the game releases and if the game doesn't sell what they predicted it would it causes an upset.
I think Square Enix need to revamp their marketing team. there are so many good gem that was ignored bcs of poor marketing. These past 5 year, the only times they are doing good job is when there is FF7 Rebirth trailer in State of Play where Cid, Vincent and Gold Saucer was revealed.
Square has always seemed to make bad investments for as long as I've played their games, coming in at nearly 3 decades with the original FF7. The company gets propped up by their really good selling games from time to time but they always tend to spend more time and money on their project than they budget for. This has resulted in the company nearly going bankrupt twice. If they didn't have so many talented devs to get through some of these rough patches, I doubt they'd still exist. Given their relationship, I'd imagine Sony would have jumped at the chance to buy them up had they not recovered from their many failed games during the 2010s. Who knows if that would have been a good or bad thing with the way things have been going in the industry now.
I like your optimism but knowing business people... I suspect there will be more pressure at Square to reign in the scope of FF7 part 3 as a result of this. I'm sure it will still be a good game but rebirth was honestly crazy in how ambitious it was. I don't think FF7 part 3 will have the same crazy ambition.
There is always a possibility for that but there is one thing that gives me hope: over 80% of the same team is making all 3 games. They know how to work together. Time will tell -Tallen
@@DirectGamingYT The pressure would most likely manifest as rushed timelines. The bit of news that most concerns me is the part where Square says they're putting control of the projects less in the hands of the producers and more in the hands of business people. That basically means more rushed timelines. I'm sure it'll be good either way though.
@@ianrust3785 ya we always have to be careful when business people step in. While its sometimes needed, they tend to go too far. Lets hope for the best.
I think Square Enix cutting off project is somewhat a good thing. Back in 2022, they got me worried bcs Square Enix released to many games in 1 year. I remember they released more than 14 games in one year ! Some of that game is low budget and low quality game but sold $60. They prioritize quantity over quality. Imagine if Square Enix produce less game but higher quality with Valkyrie Elysium, Stranger of Paradise, The Diofield Chronicles. The IP wouldn't be dead on arrival
Ff7 remake is the 2nd most profitable game in the entire series and rebirth is already 14th and is going to continue climbing dramatically. Exclusivity did not hurt those games at all, if anything developing for 1 platform made them more polished. It’s all the other garbage they’ve released that has caused them trouble
Not everyone plays MMORPGs. Lots of Square/FF fans never touched the MMOs. As an MMO player I am gonna go out there and say yes they dramatically improved FF14 and it shows.
My favorite is ff7, love the remake trilogy. But I don't like the 3 to 4 year wait between the games, especially how they ended rebirth on such a cliff hanger. It was confusing and left you with too many questions. Still love it, those are just a few things I don't like about it.
It’s understandable why people don’t like the wait. But trying to make a full remake of 7 in one game would be like 300gb, probably take 7-9 years. one of the good things about splitting it up is getting to fix things from the previous. Like air combat from remake to rebirth Luckily 80% of the team stayed on so it should go faster than other games. -Tallen
@@DirectGamingYT no I totally understand it, just don't like it lol. I'm sure it takes a long time to make a have like that. Hoping that the cut backs on other games will speed things a long more for part 3, but I think regardless they are going to want to release on the 30th anniversary. Why did they have to leave us hanging though!? 🙃😉
The first game in the trilogy failed to live up to the originals charm. The deviation in story, and the fact the game had now been split in three with added game padding to increase each games play time. Really turned a lot of people off. Personally turning FF7 into a multiverse nonsense story turned me off right away.
Rebirth didn't kill square the economy did do you know how many gamers I know that would love to play but just don't have enough money for a PS5 or interest in spending that money to play one game Let's go Brandon! Clap clap clap clap clap
Economy has 100% played a factor. Usually by now we see a price drop but instead inflation & prices is up everywhere, people are not stuck inside anymore and many more reasons.
I've read a comment on one of these Square bashing videos stating that Square has made FFVII in to a woke live service game and even put a weird Cat character riding a fat teddy bear in the game. And thats one of the reasons Rebirth flopped. I mean wtf are people even talking about 😆
When I replayed the original FF7 I made Cait Sith one of my main party members. It was hilarious...had Cait Sith get his giant form versus Proud Clod. Legendary stuff!
This game is great. I been taking my time 100 percent completing it. The vr missions was the hardest but now I’m almost done and have to say this game aside from sales is really fun.
FF 7 fanbase is majority 30 y old now. Most of them have family and dont game anymore. Young generation doesnt care aby FF 7. They played Remake and that is enough for them
About the only people who should give a damn about sales and profits of a company are the all important shareholder. How slow is the news cycles these days where this stuff takes center stage. That reminds me, gotta dump some Squenix shares, Rebirth tanked the company.
No it was forspoken, the game with the Dei consultancy group like sweet baby who ruin everything they touch. That game was the nail in the coffin they spent so much money on it and got nothing back. Its the reason they're no longer making content exclusively and branching out.
The reason why Square Enix has not been performing good is because they moved way too fast to ps5 causing they sales to drop like people are still playing the PS4 and did not moved to ps5 lately. Plus there games have not been up to par lately they need to change tactics or I can seem them going bankrupt quick.
When did I like my own comment lol I am still going to buy and play the game I am just saying the obvious facts! If they would have released on PS4 and Xbox they definitely will hit there sale goals. Been a fan and still is didn't expect that comment did you?
Modern S-E is hit or miss for me. For sure it is not what Squaresoft was, yet after Rebirth I have new hope for this company. That game was what I needed after games like Eleder Ring and Galdurs Gate 3. Dont get me wrong, ER and BG3 are good games but world presented there was so depresing and bleak. Amazing battle system of Rebirth was another thing. I cant get enought of it. But except FF16 I havent played anything from S-E this year, World Ends With You? This the first time I heared about it.
One more reason why Square Enix good games don't sell well I can highlight is. Square don't give any importance to countries except EU, North America and Japan. Here in India last year wanting to get a copy of remake it took me 10 days of searching every game store in my state and website and I couldn't find a single copy. Now the same thing is with FF 16 and Rebirth.. And I imagine if they don't ship copies to India which is very near to japan what would be situation in Africa and other Asian countries. They are extremely bad in marketing and selling games that's what hurting Square and not the studios or games they make. I haven't heard about the World end with you game ever before. I regularly check you tube and gaming stores listing for new games and still I havnt heard about it. Square releases most games by a publisher in a year yet they dont have their own event. Square should either part with sony for major game releases and set up a world class marketing and shipping teams Or they should merge themselves to a better publisher like sony, ubisoft etc etc
Overall Rebirth I a very good game. The mini games can be a little overbearing and the presence of queer/whiney NPCs added by Sweet Baby detract from the experience but didn't ruin the magic of this game
been a fan of squaresoft for 29 years i never liked any square enix game they have all been bad square soft was when they were good so ff10 and below. ff7 and 6 was my favorite
The industry is oversaturated, they need to cut down all the other projects and focus their manforce on their big IPs. New IPs cant compete with the high competition. They could make more money if they release FF titles sooner than what they are doing it now, just like the golden era of 1x FF per year. Probably means they will give us remakes of other titles sooner too
They shot themselves in the foot. Making this a sequel of a Lore-heavy RPG that you have to know the whole compilation or watch 3 hour breakdown videos for, it’s alienating to most people. Rebirth has great production value and combat. It’s bloated (they probably were developing it like it’s still covid and ppl had 100’s of hours to play) and the story has spectacle but it’s convoluted and created for ppl to have discussions til the next game, not to actually answer the things it set up in the previous game and it doesn’t have the advantage of being a “bait and switch” like they did with Remake. Square in general has been a series of questionable, out-of-touch business decisions. They’ve just been riding the wave of FF 1-10 for decades now.
Man you people are some of the most uneducated, unintelligent and uninformed people on the internet. How is this Rebirth’s fault? Where’s the correlation at all. All they said is that they want to scale back on smaller projects. Take 2 recently laid off over 1000 people and cancelled multiple projects. Will you say GTA 5 caused this. You people are ridiculous
@Luigiplaya246 prove me wrong if you believe so strongly. I'm all for having my opinion challenged. My comment comes from every franchise that people complain about " modern FF (12-current), KH fragmentation, mana series long hiadeou, etc. Happened after the square/enix merger back in 2003.
If they would relese on launch day this game it woulev sold ,serisuly fk sony ,cuse this exlusivity shit is killing the mood to actualy get the games.... hype is over...by time it releses on pc .....
They cancelled Driverclub with 5 millions units sold... I think it's harder to happen since it is a third party game, but impossible? No, 3-4 years a lot can happen. Do you remember the versus 13 Project? The game delayed for 10 years before it could happen.
Rebirth isn’t the problem (although Nomura should probably stop Nomura-ing around or else he’ll probably find out) but all the mediocre games they also made.
of course not, the only thing hurting square is the mass amount of projects they try to undertake and all these new IPs like Forspoken and Babylons Fall which end up being a shit show. Rebirth is great and I only hear positive things from most people although the game does have a few issues personally but still its one of the greater releases by SE recently.
It could have been far worse. You want to my favorite square game? That would be FF6, followed by a tie with FFX and FF5. My thoughts are if they make a new FF game in the style of some of the older ones, like a good turn based one, then it would massively well.
There have been smaller name games like octopath that give us those turn based games. With square focusing on the west more, we could see turn based remakes or remasters of ff but like the brand new 17 (whenever that releases) I personally don’t see it happening. -Tallen
No, it is showing that Final Fantasy is in decline. FFVII Remake sold less than FFXV, FFXVI sold less than Remake, and FFVII Rebirth is selling less than FFXVI. If alarms aren't going off with this downward trend, then I don't know what to tell you. FFVII Remake had no real tail. Square Enix has the inability to grow its audience for its franchises right now. Its ironic that the two most successful games by SquareEnix (not Square or Enix before them) are Tomb Raider 2013 and Life is Strange, from the West.
The only ones that give a fuck about VII are old ass 30/40 something gamers, modern audiences have no nostalgia or attachment to these characters. Here is a hot take, I bet most modern gamers are fond on the XV cast than Cloud and friends. XV-2 would have sold better than the remake series
@@jinyboi considering XV is the biggest selling singleplayer FF game, I doubt it. General audiences liked that game, core fans opinions be damned, a disliked and hated game doesnt manage to sell 10+ millions copies. Square Enix and harcore fans overestimated VII popularity with modern audiences , like I said modern gamers have no attachment to characters and world from a game released almost 30 years ago.
Sales were stellar because of the overwhelming hype surrounding the game being in development for upwards of 10 years. If anything, both ff13 and ff15 did the franchise a great disservice by damaging the brand name. I have many friends who hesitated picking up ff16 because of how bad and incomplete the story of ff15 felt and let's not even get into the button mashy gameplay
That's literally why they did the Remake trilogy. I would only agree in one aspect because there are people who did not like this update take and just wanted the same game in 97 with updated graphics.
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Rebirth did not kill square lol
But from the title alone it would be funny😂
NO the quality of the product did. square enix sells 1990 parlor arcade game cheating games.
He made the title purposely clickbaity
It killed it in the hearts of many
@@JasonP-d4i ooof. Welp hopefully we get part 3 before SE dies permanently
Rebirth at its best is an ok game that rides on nostalgia and great voice acting. At its worst it's a nuisance of a game that blunders the unthinkably easy. It's a bloated mess of a game. Filled with idiotic design choices and story changes that reek of unbelievable incompetence. They nailed the graphics, the voice actors and combat but everywhere else pooped the bed. It's a modern marvel that they nailed the hardest parts and completely dropped the ball on the easy stuff.
Withholding characters to boost sales, splitting one game into three, taking a sledgehammer to an iconic story under nonsensical pretenses.
Rebirth is in totality a blunder of hubris and blatant stupidity.
@Luigiplaya246 No, it's because I'm not an incompetent NPC and I can actually articulate a real argument.
@Luigiplaya246 You didn't make a real argument. You just repeated some catchphrase low grade nonsense and then accused me of liking my own comment lol. I didn't but nice try.
Most won't accept this answer👏
The sources said Rebirth didn't meet SE's sales expectation but they aren't underselling or killed SE's sells.
All those loses are from their half baked projects and 2 "triple A" projects that are dogshit.
And also the CEO trying to invest to NFT's.
Right now they are fixing the fiscal trainwreck that has been happening for the past years and the CEO of SE is resigning.
PC Rebirth is gona sell like hot cakes
I want it so bad... I want it more than I wanted Elden Ring.
Maybe? We shall see. FF7 Remake got like 1 million sales or something on PC. Not that great.
Incorrect.
@@Ziegfried82 2milliom but that's still not a whole lot
It's sad. Rebirth is one of the most content rich games i ever played.
It's inspiring and loved every minute of it. Far from a cash grab.
Anyone who calls it a cash grab is just wrong.
-Tallen
Content rich BTW. They ddnt do anything different from ubisoft. Fetch quest, and towers. Wow.
@watchmehope6560 bro, you know nothing if you are comparing this to a UB game.
@@watchmehope6560Ubisoft game are not repetitive cause of the do the same thing over and over, but because the activities,enemies, assets are always the same in this formula. Final fantasy rebirth has different and unique enemies even in those side moments, different activities like mini games, 7 different approach based on the character you are using in your party. Rewards are actually meaningful even for mini games, craft system is easy and gives the player a sense of progression. What the hell are you talking about?
@@watchmehope6560exactly like every single other game including elden ring? You do same stuff over and over again
What’s most annoying is people thinking square enix is doing this ff7 remake trilogy project a cash grab. The amount of work the devs put into these two games so far have been insane and a cash grab is if they just did a 1 to 1 remake
Exactly
The game is 90% them just doing a straight up Remake though. And the new stuff is just a commentary on the OG and there’s successful modern remakes all the time…
@@Djamp_htxPeople want a remake, they’ve been asking for it since the release of FF X because it was a huge step up in graphics
@@padraicburns9278 agreed. That’s just a poor argument the devs made to justify the changes. I don’t even mind them adding in additional Compilation of FFVII elements but this meta-commentary purposely misleading stuff is just to generate discussion between games. They want the familiarity of the the OG but force in all this stuff that doesn’t jive with the original theme to tell a new story and they end up failing at both
Every other company are doing 1 to 1 remakes and have been incredibly successful and poplar. Square is foolish for doing what they did to ff7. They lost half there fan base
No, the real reason FF7 Rebirth and FF16 failed to each sales expectation is because Square made a deal with Sony to make their games exclusive to one console, instead of making the games multi platform, not everybody can afford a PS5, thankfully Square Enix is no longer doing exclusive games anymore which was the smartest decision they ever made, FF16 and FF7 Rebirth will soon be on the XBox and PC.
Chrono Trigger, Octopath Traveler 2, Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy 6, Triangle Strategy, Dragon Quest XI S, and Star Ocean are my favorite games of Square.
I haven't loved a Final Fantasy game since X.
Exactly. Square's FF series went to pot and the fanboys just can't seem to digest it.
This video didn't age well, considering the fact that Square Enix is no longer doing PS exclusive because FF7 Rebirth didn't do so well in sales.
We literally have a video coming in the situation. Also, the third part of Remake is likely coming as an exclusive still because the contracts were likely finished early this year. There is a chance for a “FFVII Collection” that drops on all platforms though!
@@DirectGamingYTwhen is the video comeing out ?
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Rebirth was the best ff game since ff8. The issue is solely related to platform exclusivity, the lack of ps5 systems for the longest time, and inflation in the usa. To give an understanding of how bad inflation is since remake came out. Crunchy roll sub was 8 dollars a month for premium, and now it's 17.99. I promise that the game would have sold better had it been multiple platform release.
Hard agree! I mean Helldivers, Palworld, and Baldurs gate 3
Luckily pc should be releasing very soon based on the trailers.
When Sony covers a lot of the costs, they will take that cushion.
Final fantasy 16 better but everything else you said is true
@@null837916 is a good game but that is not true.
@null8379 have to side with Vagrant, ff16 was boring for me. But then again, i like ff7 because it's more scifi than mideval Fantasy.
People calling Rebirth a cash grab are delusional. What cash? Rebirth is a commercial failure that lost a ton of money. Rebirth is the worst-selling mainline Final Fantasy in the last 35 years. The one that sold less was FF2 and for that era 1.3m in sales was a success
No it didnt what square needs to do is stop spending extra money on all these side projects which are failing. Focus on the main bread and butter established titles. Tbh so many people ive spoken to love ff7 rebirth. Maybe best to make the game not an exclusive and then itll take off even more
I think all those side projects were the ones that Square Enix cancelled. If that’s the case, then I’m glad.
I hope it ends square. They have lost my blessing. True FF ended after 10
I hope not, it’s not all about you. Such a selfish way to say. As if square f’ed your mom or something lol
I hope, it’s not about you. Many people still like the games they release. Why do you hope for other’s people’s downfall? Says something bad about you.
They lost my blessing too. FF12 was bad. FF13 was terrible. FF14 is good for being an MMORPG I guess. FF15 while I enjoyed it was severely flawed and not a true JRPG more of an action RPG. The FF7 remake/rebirth is just more of the FF15 style gameplay same with FF16. Yes they improved the action combat system, but it's not really a JRPG series anymore. I don't care about the series anymore.
Games like FF7R and FF16 deserve so much more. I think people like to bash SE for petty reasons. And maybe some more casual/mainstream people aren't ready yet to go from CoD/Spiderman and try something more unique. But as a whole for the games industry and the people that generally are very much into gaming. Would the gaming climate really be better without FF?
Haha petty reasons? Guys like me that prefer true JRPG are gonna keep saying we want turn based combat. Notice DragonQuest is still going strong. The gaming climate has amazing stuff like Baldurs Gate 3, Divinity 2, and from Squeenix you've got Octopath Traveler. The new FF games are just action games with FF theming.
@@Ziegfried82action RPGs are also RPGs. I love all type of rpgs, turn based, tactical, action. Rebirth is far from hack and slash only, it requires a lot of strategy and it’s possible the build unique ways of playing. And yes I like the mechanics implemented for battle in remake project, as for a turn base style? I still got plenty of games to play. Lots of ports are beings released, indie games with turn based style, big budget games turn based like Baldurs Gate, etc. I just think the new approach to battle suits the Remake project very well and you can still see how basically everything was born from the old mechanics
I think there is no saving FF7R part 3 sales. If they invest too much in it I predict Enix will separate itself from Square. As for my favorite Square game? No way I'm telling, I don't want them to touch it and ruin its legacy.
Won't be as ugly as Chrono Cross, but its gonna be ugly.
Gotta wonder how much $$$ it would’ve saved to cut out all those annoying mini games 😂
Release it on PC and I will support square 😉
They didn't release on PC yet
So, they lost 140 million in cancelled half-baked projects, including two Marvel games that got cancelled, one of which was because the movie it was based on also got cancelled and thus the rights make the game was lost. There was a forspoken 2 which got canned. We don't know what else there was, but many of them were with Square as the publisher not the developer. So games they were funding other studios to make.
Once I saw tifa get swallowed by one of the weapons, I realized that final fantasy 7 rebirth was the stupidest game I've ever played
ahha, finally someone called those gaming sites and youtubers out.
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth DID NOT SELL WELL.
Square Enix, wakeup and don't play Exclusive with stupid Sony anymore.
Well it's been proven that Xbox really isn't an option due to players game preferences and inferior tech .
I'd agree on PC tho.
@@Lex_Nocturna the PS5 is flat out inferior to the Xbox what are you talking about? Obvious PC is the king though.
"Let's make woke DEI games for the West" + "Let's invest in NFTs that's totally the future."
vs.
"Hey guys we're sitting on Chrono Trigger and Xenogears and Bushido Blade and Brave Fencer and Parasite Eve and etc etc etc maybe we should do something with those in a respectful, classical way like Rebirth."
Square execs pick DEI and NFTs.
This is the reason.
Here is hoping the new boss reverses things (which so far is looking like a maybe in some parts)
Except Life is Strange is one of SquareEnix's most successful games, and its online community is as big as FF.
Second, only racists complain about DEI.
@@txgoldrush How can you be this naive. lol
@@metastase895 Or that bashing DEI is furthering white supremacy, try again.
Its will just get a lower sales compared to previous. See how Xenosaga on PS2 performed.
I love the Xenosaga games,but you are right.
They even tried to make Xenosaga into 5 games.
Nobody is gonna wait years for a game to finish their storyline ,only hardcore fans will stick to the end if it takes too long.
If I were SE I would
1. Make sure numbered mainline FF and other AAA titles gets released on all platforms, PS,XB,PC and iterate on the game that came before it. Stop changing the game design for each new title.
2. Push out AA classic JRPG games (that they are known for) on Nintendo, PC, Mobile.
3. Invest heavily on FF14 and its MMO platform. Huge community, solid source of income and good for financial stability.
Nope why should they, Dose Microsoft release there exclusive only games to PlayStation. No they dont so stop being cry baby and just wait the 6 month till they do release it on PC. Xbox isn't worth porting the console couldn't handle it lol
No, NFTs and poor leadership is hurting Square. It's not even close to dead.
You know, Neo TWEWY would have done well if they actually f*cking advertised the game worth a damn.
Exactly.
-Tallen
Considering physical copies were SOLD OUT for 8 months straight. Forcing me to buy digital at the last minute, proves to me it sold absolutely fine.
square killed square. console exclusives for initial launches and releases kill square. a majority of gamers that cant afford a ps5 right now highly effect these sales, if it had a pc release along side ps5, it wouldve done numbers. if anything FF even on a bad day, is keep this company alive.
Failed mobile games and divestment of many IPs almost killed Square.
I cant believe forespoken sold so poorly and badly received. It was a masterpiece. (Said no one ever 😂)
You know what killed Square? DEI and exclusivity (hostage situation) deals.
No, it’s “fans” are the ones killing Square. All of these crybabies asking for FF7 to be remade for decades, and then as soon as they get it. These people cry and complain about the small changes made to the story. Even though what they’re doing is literally the best of both worlds.
Funny enough, these same people (purists) would be the same people to complain had they done everything exactly the same as the original.
Can’t please anyone these days.
@@Usernamehear No…no you can’t!
There’s always going to be somebody complaining one way or another.
Eh whatever. Count me amongst the "crybabies".
It's exclusivity is what killed squarenix. If they release the games on multiple platforms they wouldn't have this problem.
That’s not always the case. Look at octopath traveler. They clearly have data that tells them about sales and then they determine if it’s worth going on certain system since making those ports cost money
-Tallen
That’s just not true. Remake is the 2nd most profitable game in the entire series and Rebirth is already 14th and that number with continue to go up dramatically. It’s the other terrible games they’ve released that has caused any problems. So maybe try to think a little bit?
PS2 says hello
FFXVI and Rebirth might not be the cause of SE's downfall, but it helped contributing this situation. Don't forget that these two games probably costed 100m+ USD each to develop. Sony paid them some, but SE also lost the opportunity to reach more customers and expand the fanbase for the FF series that has been losing popularity in the past 10-20 years. New gen of gamers don't even care about this franchise. The FF brand needs to reach newcomers more than ever before and limiting it to just one console that isn't dominating the market doesn't help. New gen of gamers don't prefer home consoles, and they have short attention, so making FFVII even more complicated than the original and Kingdom Hearts also doesn't help.
Sounds like a waiting game for Square. Early sales might not be important, especially with a small exclusivity window. If it is a three months wait to cross-platform, many might be waiting willingly
The final fantasy VII Reboot isn’t selling. The market rejected your ship. Deal with it.
Reborth, the irony though, but seriously, there were having financial troubles even its release, but they were also leaning and betting on Rebirth, Which I think this might justify, more money Sony need to give them for the exclusivity deal
There’s no possible way that square Enix LOST money from Remake/Rebirth or 16 there’s just no way, that’s crazy talk i’m sure they probably did lose money, but it wasn’t on either of those titles for damn sure, kind of funny how this kind of discussion is just surfacing now and not 14 years ago ago😏
Between 16, 7R AND FFXIV, its insane that anyone would think SE is in trouble
It’s all but confirmed it was due to the liver service and nft stuff.
-Tallen
They didn't necessarily lose money but I'd wager investors made a gross overestimation of sales figures and ended up disappointed. It's why last gen tech is still being supported right now to keep investors happy and with Rebirth being only available on PS5 and Remake was released on PS4 and then PS5 they just overestimated projected sales numbers.
@@murrproductions9654 investors? Sorry, apparently I don’t know much about anything when it comes to the way corporations work, but what does that mean? investors like consumers?
@@brieezy. oh that's alright. Investors just help fund the game and watch the stock portfolios of the company making the game. They also have a financial branch that create projections/predictions of game sales before the game releases and if the game doesn't sell what they predicted it would it causes an upset.
I think Square Enix need to revamp their marketing team. there are so many good gem that was ignored bcs of poor marketing.
These past 5 year, the only times they are doing good job is when there is FF7 Rebirth trailer in State of Play where Cid, Vincent and Gold Saucer was revealed.
Square has always seemed to make bad investments for as long as I've played their games, coming in at nearly 3 decades with the original FF7. The company gets propped up by their really good selling games from time to time but they always tend to spend more time and money on their project than they budget for. This has resulted in the company nearly going bankrupt twice. If they didn't have so many talented devs to get through some of these rough patches, I doubt they'd still exist. Given their relationship, I'd imagine Sony would have jumped at the chance to buy them up had they not recovered from their many failed games during the 2010s. Who knows if that would have been a good or bad thing with the way things have been going in the industry now.
I like your optimism but knowing business people... I suspect there will be more pressure at Square to reign in the scope of FF7 part 3 as a result of this. I'm sure it will still be a good game but rebirth was honestly crazy in how ambitious it was. I don't think FF7 part 3 will have the same crazy ambition.
There is always a possibility for that but there is one thing that gives me hope: over 80% of the same team is making all 3 games. They know how to work together. Time will tell
-Tallen
@@DirectGamingYT The pressure would most likely manifest as rushed timelines. The bit of news that most concerns me is the part where Square says they're putting control of the projects less in the hands of the producers and more in the hands of business people. That basically means more rushed timelines.
I'm sure it'll be good either way though.
@@ianrust3785 ya we always have to be careful when business people step in. While its sometimes needed, they tend to go too far. Lets hope for the best.
Jeda survivor Was awesome. Personally I loved this game.
I think Square Enix cutting off project is somewhat a good thing.
Back in 2022, they got me worried bcs Square Enix released to many games in 1 year. I remember they released more than 14 games in one year !
Some of that game is low budget and low quality game but sold $60.
They prioritize quantity over quality.
Imagine if Square Enix produce less game but higher quality with Valkyrie Elysium, Stranger of Paradise, The Diofield Chronicles.
The IP wouldn't be dead on arrival
Ff7 remake is the 2nd most profitable game in the entire series and rebirth is already 14th and is going to continue climbing dramatically. Exclusivity did not hurt those games at all, if anything developing for 1 platform made them more polished. It’s all the other garbage they’ve released that has caused them trouble
1st thing is the sales number are just on the playstation....after a year when its being port to pc it would have an increase by 50%....
This guy was not here during FFXIV 1.0 lol
Yeah that shit was hilarious with the copy pasta xD even Yoshi P said they fucked up hard time.
In the end it paid off and they got a successful MMO.
Not everyone plays MMORPGs. Lots of Square/FF fans never touched the MMOs. As an MMO player I am gonna go out there and say yes they dramatically improved FF14 and it shows.
The other games burned Square, but rebirth wasn't enough to cover the losses of the other titles.
My favorite is ff7, love the remake trilogy. But I don't like the 3 to 4 year wait between the games, especially how they ended rebirth on such a cliff hanger. It was confusing and left you with too many questions. Still love it, those are just a few things I don't like about it.
It’s understandable why people don’t like the wait. But trying to make a full remake of 7 in one game would be like 300gb, probably take 7-9 years.
one of the good things about splitting it up is getting to fix things from the previous. Like air combat from remake to rebirth
Luckily 80% of the team stayed on so it should go faster than other games.
-Tallen
@@DirectGamingYT no I totally understand it, just don't like it lol. I'm sure it takes a long time to make a have like that. Hoping that the cut backs on other games will speed things a long more for part 3, but I think regardless they are going to want to release on the 30th anniversary. Why did they have to leave us hanging though!? 🙃😉
@@TheDelightfulFlowerLady It will be here soon and we will all be happy
The first game in the trilogy failed to live up to the originals charm. The deviation in story, and the fact the game had now been split in three with added game padding to increase each games play time. Really turned a lot of people off. Personally turning FF7 into a multiverse nonsense story turned me off right away.
Rebirth didn't kill square the economy did do you know how many gamers I know that would love to play but just don't have enough money for a PS5 or interest in spending that money to play one game
Let's go Brandon! Clap clap clap clap clap
Economy has 100% played a factor.
Usually by now we see a price drop but instead inflation & prices is up everywhere, people are not stuck inside anymore and many more reasons.
I've read a comment on one of these Square bashing videos stating that Square has made FFVII in to a woke live service game and even put a weird Cat character riding a fat teddy bear in the game. And thats one of the reasons Rebirth flopped. I mean wtf are people even talking about 😆
😂
Cait Sith isn’t my favorite character but he’s not that bad 🤣
When I replayed the original FF7 I made Cait Sith one of my main party members. It was hilarious...had Cait Sith get his giant form versus Proud Clod. Legendary stuff!
This game is great. I been taking my time 100 percent completing it. The vr missions was the hardest but now I’m almost done and have to say this game aside from sales is really fun.
No problem with the game. The issue is cost and platform availability. Still not the BOTW type of game where you buy the console just to ay the game.
3rd part defines will suffer from it. But people need to remember that sony pays them massively for being exclusive to ps5
FF 7 fanbase is majority 30 y old now. Most of them have family and dont game anymore. Young generation doesnt care aby FF 7. They played Remake and that is enough for them
About the only people who should give a damn about sales and profits of a company are the all important shareholder. How slow is the news cycles these days where this stuff takes center stage. That reminds me, gotta dump some Squenix shares, Rebirth tanked the company.
These idiot "content creators" will make a video on anything, if they think they can make a buck from it.
Saying rebirth killed square is clickbait, and you do the exact same thing lol
I'm loving Rebirth. However, I really wish it was turn based. The combat is good but it's a messy blend of menus and action.
I just want to see Xenogears and Parasite Eve get a full Triple A remake. If be so happy 😅
Rebirth was good it was just those annoying mini games but I did like how challenging the fights were on hard mode and the bouts. Remake was too easy.
I agree about the challenge. I liked it. Though that seems to be a hot take because many (based on the guide comments) did not 👀
-Tallen
No it was forspoken, the game with the Dei consultancy group like sweet baby who ruin everything they touch. That game was the nail in the coffin they spent so much money on it and got nothing back. Its the reason they're no longer making content exclusively and branching out.
It's probably a demand from the stock holders the owners should focus on other and bigger projects.
And probably saying “wtf did you do with the money for nft…..”
The reason why Square Enix has not been performing good is because they moved way too fast to ps5 causing they sales to drop like people are still playing the PS4 and did not moved to ps5 lately. Plus there games have not been up to par lately they need to change tactics or I can seem them going bankrupt quick.
When did I like my own comment lol I am still going to buy and play the game I am just saying the obvious facts! If they would have released on PS4 and Xbox they definitely will hit there sale goals. Been a fan and still is didn't expect that comment did you?
Modern S-E is hit or miss for me. For sure it is not what Squaresoft was, yet after Rebirth I have new hope for this company. That game was what I needed after games like Eleder Ring and Galdurs Gate 3. Dont get me wrong, ER and BG3 are good games but world presented there was so depresing and bleak. Amazing battle system of Rebirth was another thing. I cant get enought of it. But except FF16 I havent played anything from S-E this year, World Ends With You? This the first time I heared about it.
Rebirth is the best game I’ve played in a decade
Remake Xenogears
That would be a good game.
Only if they involve Monolith Soft to make it.
wont happen
One more reason why Square Enix good games don't sell well I can highlight is. Square don't give any importance to countries except EU, North America and Japan. Here in India last year wanting to get a copy of remake it took me 10 days of searching every game store in my state and website and I couldn't find a single copy. Now the same thing is with FF 16 and Rebirth.. And I imagine if they don't ship copies to India which is very near to japan what would be situation in Africa and other Asian countries. They are extremely bad in marketing and selling games that's what hurting Square and not the studios or games they make.
I haven't heard about the World end with you game ever before. I regularly check you tube and gaming stores listing for new games and still I havnt heard about it. Square releases most games by a publisher in a year yet they dont have their own event.
Square should either part with sony for major game releases and set up a world class marketing and shipping teams Or they should merge themselves to a better publisher like sony, ubisoft etc etc
That's probably because there's a lack of distributor in your country, you can literally find it everywhere you go here in South East Asia
You sound like Scooter from The Terrible Thunderlizards sometimes
favorite square enix game ever? Xenogears. PERIOD. best story SE EVER TOLD. better than even chrono trigger and ff6. And those were awesome.
Very nice pick
-Tallen
Ehhhh that's hard for me to disagree with as much as a fan of FF6 and Chrono Trigger that I am. Good pick.
Seems like remake and rebirth flopped, man such a pity.
Overall Rebirth I a very good game. The mini games can be a little overbearing and the presence of queer/whiney NPCs added by Sweet Baby detract from the experience but didn't ruin the magic of this game
To each their own on mini games but Sweet Baby did not work on Rebirth.
They worked on Forspoken.
Thank god you started like that lol
Im sick of people talking nonsense when they know nothing lol
been a fan of squaresoft for 29 years
i never liked any square enix game they have all been bad
square soft was when they were good so ff10 and below. ff7 and 6 was my favorite
@Luigiplaya246 not whining, just stating ff games were at their best when the company was squaresoft
@Luigiplaya246 i am in no way a casual gamer . if your salty because i have a different opinion that's on you.
The industry is oversaturated, they need to cut down all the other projects and focus their manforce on their big IPs. New IPs cant compete with the high competition. They could make more money if they release FF titles sooner than what they are doing it now, just like the golden era of 1x FF per year. Probably means they will give us remakes of other titles sooner too
I believe that is what they just did.
ff 7 rebirth on pc ? its gonna be most pirated game of all time since no one is gonna put money on garbage game like it xD
Shouldn't of took money from sony to keep it on there for so long stop doing that dumb crap
Just wait for PC release and let's talk again about those sales.
Oh I’m sure they will jump up even more (assuming the port is good)
-Tallen
FF 8 should definitely have a remake.
they wont do it….FF7 is holding the FF brand hostage
They shot themselves in the foot. Making this a sequel of a Lore-heavy RPG that you have to know the whole compilation or watch 3 hour breakdown videos for, it’s alienating to most people.
Rebirth has great production value and combat. It’s bloated (they probably were developing it like it’s still covid and ppl had 100’s of hours to play) and the story has spectacle but it’s convoluted and created for ppl to have discussions til the next game, not to actually answer the things it set up in the previous game and it doesn’t have the advantage of being a “bait and switch” like they did with Remake.
Square in general has been a series of questionable, out-of-touch business decisions. They’ve just been riding the wave of FF 1-10 for decades now.
Man you people are some of the most uneducated, unintelligent and uninformed people on the internet. How is this Rebirth’s fault? Where’s the correlation at all. All they said is that they want to scale back on smaller projects. Take 2 recently laid off over 1000 people and cancelled multiple projects. Will you say GTA 5 caused this. You people are ridiculous
Rebirth is just as good as the original if not better!!! Its sooo amazing!!! Cant wait for part 3!!!
Same
The world ends with you looks like a gheto/graphite style skater punk style game... so yea no thanks.
Trust me. Do not judge it just by the look. The game is super fun. Give it a try. Game is on sale a lot.
-Tallen
As always, what is killing Squaresoft is Enix.
@Luigiplaya246 prove me wrong if you believe so strongly. I'm all for having my opinion challenged.
My comment comes from every franchise that people complain about " modern FF (12-current), KH fragmentation, mana series long hiadeou, etc. Happened after the square/enix merger back in 2003.
@Luigiplaya246 ?
If they would relese on launch day this game it woulev sold ,serisuly fk sony ,cuse this exlusivity shit is killing the mood to actualy get the games.... hype is over...by time it releses on pc
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do you think square enix will cancel ff7 remake part 3?
Not at all. Sony is helping so not a chance.
@@DirectGamingYT what if it does get cancel because rebirth is not selling that well at all
Until we see the sales numbers, we can only guess.
Though I still highly doubt it
-Tallen
No, but reduce its budget they could.
They cancelled Driverclub with 5 millions units sold... I think it's harder to happen since it is a third party game, but impossible? No, 3-4 years a lot can happen. Do you remember the versus 13 Project? The game delayed for 10 years before it could happen.
I hope so
NFT Killed them simple as that
Yep. Luckily that president is not around anymore (the guy who made that decision)
Rebirth isn’t the problem (although Nomura should probably stop Nomura-ing around or else he’ll probably find out) but all the mediocre games they also made.
Funnily enough Nomura had nothing to do with the narrative of the game, i think Kitase wrote the script.
Didn't Nomura want a more original script?
He is still the creative lead of the project so all the creative decisions are on him.
Thank you.
of course not, the only thing hurting square is the mass amount of projects they try to undertake and all these new IPs like Forspoken and Babylons Fall which end up being a shit show. Rebirth is great and I only hear positive things from most people although the game does have a few issues personally but still its one of the greater releases by SE recently.
Rebirth is amazing. Highly recommend
I bet the new GTA will sell great????
NieR Automata
It could have been far worse. You want to my favorite square game? That would be FF6, followed by a tie with FFX and FF5.
My thoughts are if they make a new FF game in the style of some of the older ones, like a good turn based one, then it would massively well.
There have been smaller name games like octopath that give us those turn based games. With square focusing on the west more, we could see turn based remakes or remasters of ff but like the brand new 17 (whenever that releases) I personally don’t see it happening.
-Tallen
sleeping dogs
Now there is a game! Nice pick.
20+ years of mediocrity killed square
😂😂😂 no rebirth and XVI are the saviors.
No, it is showing that Final Fantasy is in decline. FFVII Remake sold less than FFXV, FFXVI sold less than Remake, and FFVII Rebirth is selling less than FFXVI. If alarms aren't going off with this downward trend, then I don't know what to tell you. FFVII Remake had no real tail.
Square Enix has the inability to grow its audience for its franchises right now.
Its ironic that the two most successful games by SquareEnix (not Square or Enix before them) are Tomb Raider 2013 and Life is Strange, from the West.
The only ones that give a fuck about VII are old ass 30/40 something gamers, modern audiences have no nostalgia or attachment to these characters.
Here is a hot take, I bet most modern gamers are fond on the XV cast than Cloud and friends.
XV-2 would have sold better than the remake series
15-2 would have bombed hard
@@jinyboi considering XV is the biggest selling singleplayer FF game, I doubt it. General audiences liked that game, core fans opinions be damned, a disliked and hated game doesnt manage to sell 10+ millions copies.
Square Enix and harcore fans overestimated VII popularity with modern audiences , like I said modern gamers have no attachment to characters and world from a game released almost 30 years ago.
Sales were stellar because of the overwhelming hype surrounding the game being in development for upwards of 10 years. If anything, both ff13 and ff15 did the franchise a great disservice by damaging the brand name. I have many friends who hesitated picking up ff16 because of how bad and incomplete the story of ff15 felt and let's not even get into the button mashy gameplay
15 played like garbage😂 hold circle, potion spam the game 🤣
That's literally why they did the Remake trilogy. I would only agree in one aspect because there are people who did not like this update take and just wanted the same game in 97 with updated graphics.
Square needs to remake xenogears
Also…didnt square push that awful forspoken garbage?
Rebirth hasnt killed anything , The game that kill square was that trash forespoken trash game that no one asked for