How Isla Sorna Was Destroyed - Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park
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Okay guys! In this video I go over how Isla Sorna was destroyed. Now the information that I use in this video can be found in Michael Crichton's second Jurassic Park book, The Lost World. This is basically the ending of that novel explained in full. A lot of this stuff was used in the build up for Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom's viral marketing by the Dinosaur Protection Group and it happens to give some insight as to what happened to Isla Sorna! Site B was my favorite island...maybe we will get some info on it one day if we're lucky! :D
That speech about life was actually realy thought provoking somehow. Never thought of since that way.
That speech was asinine. I understand the point being made, but it was dumb as fuck to suggest that photons will not be real in 100 years. They've been physically and mathematically proven to exist and will continue to exist until the heat death of the universe.
@@StudleyDuderight but what is the point in it, what does it bring to the earth that will help us..I’ll give you the answer, nothing and it never will. By 100 years it will be found newer and better stuff, and what will that do…as I said, nothing. We have no use in it other than knowledge, and when will we ever need to use that knowledge in the real world…Never
@@sootgg7693 You used photons and electrons every time you pressed a key to type up your reply.
@@StudleyDuderight Thank you! I was afraid I was the only one who just shook my head after reading that. What he presents as "real" can and has been proven by the scientific method. It's not just a lot of fancy guesswork, there's actual proof in these ideas. Many of the ones (if not all) Thorne cites were never considered proven by anything approaching the scientific method.
He might as well cite bloodletting or geocentrism while he's at it. Hell, alchemy was scientifically disproven!
There's no fantasy involved.
He was wrong about the fantasy part - Something as believing humours control behaviour may chage overtime, but the destructive nature of humanity has been proved over & over, think of every war in history, the atomic bombs, poverty caused by corrupt government. This is not just a "fantasy", its a well established part of a human's character.
That's why our only hope in this world is the one who gave it to us - God.
The DX prions disease was one of the scariest plot developments in the novel, and made me imagine what Crichton might have done with it if it was introduced to the mainland and adapt to infecting mammals. As such, this disease hasn't been introduced in the film series, but it could reappear.
I love Doc Thorne's speech about what is real, living and true at the end, and I made it one of the themes of my book.
Oh now that would have been a seriously interesting scenario! Really makes you wonder about what he would've done with another novel!
And yeah I agree with you man! It's an excellent speech! Really wraps everything up nicely! :D
I always felt the book's ending was their way of saying, dinosaurs were chosen for extinction, so back to the dust they go.
But tbh, I think they really aren't. Dinosaurs were so tough that they survived for another million year; they just had a bad luck.
@@user-mn5lk8iw5h no it makes even more sense considering they're clones with unstable and vulnerable bodies unprepared to modern day diseases even more given the amphibian DNA.
Amphibians nowadays are in mass extinction because of this factor. Sudden environmental and disease changes impact them harshly
but not the nublar din cuz life finds a way
@@user-mn5lk8iw5h if there's one thing I've learned is there are no coincidences.
Technically, dinosaurs aren't extinct. Modern birds are considered dinosaurs.
I like the DX thing, shows how one small mistake can lead to the ruin of the ambitions of all involved. It's playing the same card as the first novel did (over-reliance on technology and computers, in that case), and but done in a very different way. Also I'm surprised Kelly didn't say "South isn't real!" when Thorne walked away at the last sentence.
😂 lol SOUTH ISNT REAL! Thats great!
That's-That's chaos theory.
Can you bring me a south on a plate???
😂🤣
End the book like a scooby doo episode where everyone laughs.
If Hammomd didnt account for the Dx Disease, this means Hammond didn't exactley "Spare no Expense"
Well his electric fences were pretty cheap and useless without electricity.
Part of me feels like he didn't even supervise what any of them were doing with his money.
I can't be the only one that thinks. He gives the job to someone else. And then talks about. How amazing his projects gonna be.
Book Hammond spared many expenses
@@aguy7848 maybe but he didnt account for one of his employees shutting it all down
I wish they'd continue the JP series through a TV-MA series maybe a prequel or even the after math of the last film; getting different perspectives of different survivors in a dinosaur infested world would be very interesting.
if they do stop movies, I hope not, I would love that
Sasuke Uchiha they already said there making a 3rd JW movie.
I know I meant after JW3
@@SasukeUchiha-ix2yk Would be interesting if they did a Prequel Trilogy set during the Mesozoic era. Even though there wouldn't be any human drama. It would show the dinosaurs in their natural habitat. Perhaps that trilogy... ends with their extinction. And in a post-credit scene, we see Dr. Grant Dig up one of their bones.
@@DragonWorldProducts ooooh i like it
As sad as the ending can be of the 2nd book. The last few lines of it are very uplifting and struck a cord in me when I first read it.
Almost wish it could have been in the film. It went the same route as the first film of the Lost World from the silent era, Conan Doyle's book had Challenger just bring back a pterodactyl that flew away. The film required a apatosaurus on the loose terrorising downtown London with the same gusto as Rexy in San Diego.
The DX disease is an amazing bit to show how ignorant man could be. This ending was a great ending to a book.
Bryce Mckenzie and it is much more likely to erradicate dinosaurs without there being survivors.
You would think as scientists a d biologists, they would know that though.
The sciences are a diverse, expansive, ever-changing thing. No one scientist is aware of every fact. Sarah Harding knowing it makes sense, since she works directly with animals; Levine didn't know it because his scientific focus was archeology. The scientists on Site B, having been chosen for their genetic expertise rather than their zoological knowledge, probably didn't have a working knowledge of zoo practices. The only people ever mentioned related to Jurassic Park who worked directly with animals before working there with Dr. Harding (Sarah's father, the vet on Isla Nublar, who worked in a zoo) and Muldoon (who was a game warden in Kenya, or something similar).
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I havnt read any of the books or anything, is there a hint that anything on the island survives?
Also, how long did it take the disease to start causing havoc. In the 3rd movie, it appears that the island had been abandoned for years. The island still seemed pretty healthy
I still wonder what they will do with Isla Sorna in the Movie canon...while it is true that the new Cloned dinosaurs by Masrani effected the ecosystem and many of the dinosaurs had to be shipped out back to Nublar. They never said that no Dinosaurs currently not exist in Sorna. Maybe a smaller population survived? I just hope to see it again.
Myself and many others believe it's entirely possible Isla Sorna is in much better shape than the DPG has let on. Despite the DPG being the "good" to the Extinction Now's "bad," it's still an organization run by people with specific goals in mind. Not _everything_ they reported is necessarily true or entirely accurate, as we could come to find out in Jurassic World 3 or other future content. I know, I'm merely speculating, but we shall see.
Sorna was paradise on the outside, but inside , it was a place of death to dinosaurs amd man alike
Always enjoy that your videos about the movies or games always have this carefree tone
But your videos about the novels, such an eerie feeling is established with just the beginning quotes, and maintains that emotion through out the entire thing, keep it up
Hey thanks man! These are my favorite videos to make. They take a while longer than everything else but I'm glad everyone else enjoys them! :D
Agree +6 likes
Crichton was more then just a novel writter, he were very smart and this was a well explained ending and also bringing a deep reflection. Thakns for take the time to do this kind of videos, I really enjoy them and next time, I would like you talk about the Dobson´s death.
Hey thanks man! I'm glad you're enjoying these videos! And I'm not sure WHEN exactly I'll do Dodgson's death but it is DEFINITELY going to happen! :D
Even after all this years, I'm convinced that Levine is a dead man walking, and Malcolm and Sarah are lying through their teeth when they assure him he'll be fine. Prion infection in humans is pretty nasty no matter the source, and Chrichton was remarkably informed and accurate about them all through the book, right up until that talk on the boat.
Considering what happened to Gennaro and Muldoon between Jurassic Park and The Lost World, I feel it's only fair that Levine is, indeed, a dead man walking. Especially considering how his carelessness got Eddie killed, Arby horribly mutilated, and brought that prion infection on himself.
? Robert Muldoon is fine. He’s never mentioned in TLW. As for Levine’s fate, early in the book it’s stated by Martin Gutierrez that the disease is not lethal. So even if he were infected, Levine would just get a headache.
Wish you would do a full reading of both novels. You do a great job, and love when you include the soundscape. Really set the situations up nicely!
The ending always stayed with me and I hope this... this is what the franchise will end on. This foresight of all the animals dying, unable to really adapt to this world, catching illness or something alike. Great video! Thanks for highlighting this.
Hey thanks Arjan! :D
😨😨😭 I am like Dr. Levine clinging on hope that the dinosaurs thrive and flourish.
@@s45gr32 It certainly looks like it is heading that way :)
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You definitely need to do a full auio reading of those books the way you read them is absolutely incredible
It makes me feel sad that Isla Sorna was going to have an extinction in both the book and in the film series, and around the release of Fallen Kingdom I had hope that this island would still exist for the animals. I always liked the island because it has been the primary setting for the dinosaurs and other creatures to roam freely and behave in a wild ecosystem, and there are more dinosaurs there as well and it is the origin location. Of course I like Isla Nublar too because it's the original story setting and where Jurassic Park and Jurassic World take place and it is the home of Rexy and the original Brachiosaurus we meet.
6:06 - 7:10 Wow! I literally got goosebumps! This is truly an amazing statement.
Personally, I don't like the idea of Isla Sorna being destroyed at all. After what happened on Isla Nublar, we got an entirely new, bigger island with many more species, and it was glorious. The end of the second film painted a wonderful picture of the dinosaurs living in harmony away from human interference, as Hammond had been wanting since the '93 incident, and even the third film continued this to some extent. I'm still having trouble wrapping my mind around the illegal species being the main reason Sorna's ecosystem fell off a cliff, though. The Spinosaurus couldn't have killed so many dinosaurs that the entire system fell apart; that's simply ridiculous and improbable, and the same goes for the Ceratosaurus. It's also difficult to believe the Ankylosaurus and Corythosaurus caused problems for the other herbivores on the island at the time considering just how big Sorna was. We didn't even get to see most of it in the films, after all. The explanation seems to be not thought out very well, and just slapped in there to add more weight to the illegal species. Hopefully Sorna will be brought back at some point.
Jason Krueger remember the Isla Sorna in the movies is far bigger then it is in the books. That’s what made the ecosystem healthier but evasive dinosaurs like Spinosaurus , no doubt created by that bastard Wu, led to the island failing.
@@issacflores2010 I can see this explanation working for novel Sorna, but film Sorna is far, far bigger in scale and wouldn't logically have this issue.
It might not be logical but the intention of Spinosaurus was to have a dinosaur that could cause an extinction on the island. That was stated on one of JP3 featurettes so illogical yes but ever since JP3 the franchise has been pretty much just "popcorn flicks" where the movies are just meant to be entertaining.
Yes, it was stated in the behind-the-scenes feature, but there's a difference between intention and what ends up on screen. Horner also described the Spinosaurus as being 60 feet, but that never materialized. I'm not saying the Spinosaurus didn't have an effect on the ecosystem, as dumb as it sounds, but I don't think it was the biggest as some are claiming.
It’s really not that hard to believe at all, our history is full of examples of new species being introduced to an ecosystem that cause great harm and even lead to species becoming extinct. It’s the reason some countries have such strict laws about animals being brought in. It’s very possible that introducing new creatures to Sorna could have a devastating impact, especially when coupled with the strip mining of the island to fill the new park.
A bitter sweet ending for a very interesting and somewhat cynical book. I'm anxious that we may see an end to the dinosaurs very similar to this in the final movie. If that's so, we're gonna be in for a huge surprise and heartbreaking moment in the final chapter of the Jurassic franchise. I always look forward to these videos, Klayton. Keep it up and I eagerly look forward to watching your well deserved sub count rise higher than the unchecked dinosaur numbers in the first novel lol
Haha thanks man! 😂 Love this comment lol
@@KlaytonFioriti Thanks haha I strive to entertain lol
love the scientific details in Chrichton's work. he left no stone unturned
5:28 this whole speech. damn. what an ending! love your added music in the background 👏🏻
Is there any chance you could do a video on the infrastructure of Isla Nublar and Sorna ?
All the labs , worker villages , tourist centres and so on.
Would be amazing , also videos are fantastic!
This. Is why the novels are much better then the Jurassic world trilogy
I got the feeling that they might just might put DX in Dominion, just maybe.
I wish they would make another Jurassic Park movie, but have it stay more true to the book, that would be awesome!
This was my favorite moment in the second book, and to me personally. You made it 10 times better.
Wow... that’s an amazing ending to a book. Truly amazing.
Love the videos you do, im getting Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park book soon so i cant wait
Hey man I love your videos, everytime you upload one it's very entertaining and not only that gives us jurrasic park fans theories in the movies and in the books 😁
Hey thanks man! I really appreciate hearing that! :D Thanks for the kind words that means a lot!
I do miss the film canon King, Queen and Prince of Isla Sorna :/ (You know who I mean ;) )
I hope they will return.
You mean the rexes?
No he means the mutant half raptor spawn of goldbloom (try getting that image out of your head) OF COURSE HE MEANS THE REXES....or is it rexs?
@@samueljosephazzaro9664 well folks like to dick ride roberta, blue, the mossasaur, and nublar so much i just wanted to be sure the og post wasn't a typo.
Plus its nice seeing the other rexes getting the love they deserve.
Oh I completely agree but everything you listed their was female.......well except for the island but unless that volcano was meant to symbolize.......look you get my meaning. Point is, a male dino can only be talking about sight B stuff......or the goldbloom abominations that took up residency in eastern Ecuador......those poor poor towns folk never knew what hit them.
Watching The Lost World on tv and then I see a video from Klayton. Good day so far!
Chriton was so talented
The idea that a single non-human animal can wreck an entire ecosystem as big as Sorna by itself just seems silly to me. Nature doesn't work that way. I highly, highly doubt the Spinosaurus was so OP that it could take on healthy Triceratops, stegosaurs, and massive sauropods several times and walk away unscathed. I doubt the I.rex would survive a run in with the mated T.rex pair and I know the Spinosaurus wouldn't. Invasive species can ruin an ecosystem, but you need more than one individual.
Thorn’s speech at the end was nice ngl
Imagine the ending of Jurassic World 3, all the mainland Dinosaurs have died from the DX disease. And all species are concluded as extinct. Then we get a shot of Sorna, we then zoom very deep into the forested island. The caption "Something has survived" appears. Then we see him. The baby Trex from the second film all grown up with it's mate, standing back away from a Stegosaurus herd lazily moving around while the we see JP3 raptors leaping in the background, and even farther in the background we see a herd of parasolophus and apatosaurs, then the lost world pteradon lands gracefully on the tree branch and the movie ends. I don't know just an idea.
Im late but the animals on sorna went extinct through poachers and the spino also appato never was on sorna
Something about Isla Sorna that hits right in the feels. I would love to learn new info about it in in Jurassic World 3, making reference to the DX disease.
It’s insane how much lore this franchise has that’s never discussed in the movies
I really hope we get a comic series from the Jurassic World trilogy. Would love to see the time between JP 3 and JW with how they dealt with the Spino after Alan.
It gives Sorna a clean slate for future movies. Would be cool to see a new park.
This guy should do a full audiobook of JP and TLW
Would you like to see a scene or 2 on site B for the last film? Assuming "something has survived" on that island lol
Of course! :D
Back and on time fore a new video. Today is now great.
Also. That part of that book always speaks to me. It's so timeless that even centuries from now. There will be people looking up and thinking... yeah. It's true.
you should properly think of something SPOOKY for halloween, like maybe something with the indoraptor.
hmmmm 🤔
Oh or maybe if theirs any info on the reject dinos (aka those early versions that probably lived for like two weeks......I don't know if that is ever brought up in JP cannon but cloning an organism that can live long term is really half the battle when it comes to cloning, and their would have to be a lot of dead hatchlings before Wu got it right......maybe all kept in a lab like we saw in JP3 in hundreds of jars)?
Klayton, this was an excellent video. I love your analysis, and you have an excellent reading voice. Keep up the great work!
Personally, I've always felt the DX disease was a strange (not bad) plot point. Hammond and Wu, for all of their faults, weren't idiots and would have quickly realized how problematic the DX disease would be the second it popped up. They were just about ready to open the park in JP1, so you would really assume that the current stock of animal would have been immune to the disease (seriously, given Wu's ego, curing a disease through genetic manipulation would easily have topped his priority charts, as that could provide a cure for virus and prion based disease as a whole). I actually would have preferred it to have been something like rabies making the jump from local fauna to the dinosaurs, something they would have no immunity against and wouldn't present an issue till the dinos were all roaming free. Also can anyone think of a more terrifying scenario then being stuck on an island filled with rabid dinosaurs, such potential!
Prions, simply a folded piece of protein, folded left and you are fine, folded right and you have mad cow disease. How fascinating!! (Example of small change in prions leads to big difference)
Im eating hamburger helper as i watch this, and here you are taking about mad cow 😆😅. Dammit lol.
I am so hype for jw3 also I just recently started reading the original Jurassic park novel and so far it’s really good
Dr. Thorn just explained science in a rough sense..... ah literature
Sorna was such a brutal island of things way creepier than you think. At least it's destroyed. I hope....
Edit 1: Thanks for the heart! I really love your videos! (My brother enjoys you aswell!)
iiFearlessPro it’s brutal but not as bad as Skull Island. Now that’s an island no one would consider trespassing.
Makes you wonder, does this mean that the dinos in the original JP novel were also infected with the disease caused by the sheep extract or were they healthier because a few where grown and hatched in the nursery at the park.
You my fiend have completely restarted my love for the JPfranchise
Bill Stone how dare lose love for it
Lol at the theory discussions photons are Hella measurable
Interesting theory about human extinction by Malcolm thinking about Covid-19 and Omnicron.
I think this theory will be a big part of Dominon. I believe that finding out about the destruction of Site B will be a potential wepond against dinos on mainland.
Great one Klay. And completely resonates with the current status of the Jurassic World saga, much more than I thought. Now more than ever we can be sure it well may’ve been where Michael Crichton would’ve go if he continued the books.
Guacamole! This is impossible! Why does Sorna have the better designed dinosaurs? Haha im watching The Lost World right now too!
Fantastic job on the vid brudda! Yay! 💙🎃👌
Hey thanks haha and YES I agree! The Lost World has the best dinosaur designs!
@@KlaytonFioriti I love the Raptors in the lost world too :) Its still the best!
Say, can you do a vid about how Alan and the group infiltrated the Raptors nest in the book? :) It be a great story to cover for any JP fans? :)
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Just today I have finished The Lost World novel and I say that reading all of the novels and watching the movies are the true Jurassic experience of a fan.
Another amazing video!
Wow what a ending
Edit: i honestly feel more sad for the dinosaurs here then jwfk
Wow Two islands get destroyed By Ingen And The us Government
Slyarno. Rj, Ian Malcom was right! We are damn good at destroying stuff!
It was the Costa Rican government.
I love this vid
Hey give Thorn for a medal for that last speech he gave us
I have a dark headcannon about the ending. That the DX prion spreads to humans and either destroys a large amount of the human population or causes humanity's extinction. A species of billions wiped out by a disease created by accident,an unintended consequence of Jurassic Park.
I like the ending’s message. I wonder if that’ll get adapted in JW3. If not then maybe I could use this ending for my toy movie.
That ending speech by Malcom is very “I’m14andthisisdeep”
I really don't know which I love more, the movies or the books. They both have their ups and downs.I'm always going to be sad however, that we'll never get a 3rd book.
Felt like watching a movie in this video.
The lost world has always been my favourite book
Love your book videos! Keep them coming!
Yay new video it’s so weird that I watched you and you had 10k give or take and now you have 100k +
Its definitely surreal to me! I'm just happy all you guys still watch my stuff and enjoy these vids :D
And speaking of how big your channel is now do you have the silver play button yet and if you don’t I would like to see a video where you open it I feel like your reaction would be fun to see
Thanks klayton for telling everyone about the lost world of Jurassic Park novel book and this is how these dinosaurs 🦖 died and went extinct on the island so I thank you very much
Bro I’m a big fan of Jurassic Park movies and games and books 📖
The novels are the real true Legends Lore of Jurassic park world series
Woah! This is one of the few philosophies that really nakes me go woah, and that I think the world is better off knowing.
Sometimes, Life DOESN’T find a way.
You can't see a photon, therefore, it's not real? Riiiight.
This is good stuff as always. I do hate that the films never implied Isla Sorna was in any sort of trouble. The carnivore to herbivore ratio was never mentioned, no disease was ever mentioned. Hell, Hammond himself stated the direct opposite when he said the population had flourished, despite InGen believing the post-Hurricane Clarissa dinosaurs would just die off without their care. There's really no reason to believe Sorna was in danger, even in the third film.
I know the DPG workers were told to essentially take Sorna out of the picture by any means necessary, but I think some of their stuff was _too_ matter-of-fact and not ambiguous enough, namely pinning the blame of Sorna's decline on the introduction of the Spinosaurus and others. They did offer other explanations, such as disease and whatnot, but they should have kept it at that.
Anyway, I'm beginning to ramble. Until next time.
While I definitely see myself as a part of the group that doesn't exactly love the disease killing off all the animals on Sorna, I still find both JP novels to be fun reads for anyone who loves this series. I absolutely love the ending dialogue provided by both Dr. Malcolm and Dr. Thorn.
That little theme at the end went well with Thorne's speech.
You should do a vid on what if the Trex and Raptors were only in the first movie. What animals do you think would be the main antagonists instead and how would it have effected the story?
That was a great ending. I need to read the book
The Ending from the Book is Great!!!
I hope they clarify on the films what happened to Sorna. The info on thw website is fine for fans, but many people will never see it, and the'll have the impression that the questions were never responded.
Damn Dr Thorn, that was fucking deeeeeeeep 6:00 - 7:02
That actually was very interesting, the idea that our ideas of reality can easily be dismissed as silly in a hundred years time
🎶Welcome to the hotel isla sorna what lovely place such a lovely place 🎶
I love coming back to this video for thrones speech it’s so good
Holy sh*t!! You read my mind, Klayton.
I was about to ask for a video like this! Thank you.
Damn Dr.Thorn got all deep at the end
Really great video again mate. The novels are ripe with ideas that can still be used in the movies.
Another amazing video from my second favorite Jurassic park RUclipsr klaytion.
So glad i found your channel as someone who also grew up with the Jurassic park franchise i even remember seeing the first film at the cinema i would have never known about all of these things if it wasn't for this channel hopefully they take a bit more inspiration from the books for the final film as many people wouldn't know what happened in the books while it is bittersweet what happened to the animals on sorna it would be good to see in the movies and would answer alot of questions keep up the awesome work i lookforward to seeing the next video
It doesn't quite add up that the illegal dinosaur species could have wiped out the Lost World. It seems more likely that the novel version idea would make sense to also be a factor. One of your older videos even suggested about the islands geothermic dangers. I wonder, do you think all of those factors combined destroyed Isla Sorna's dinosaurs?
It's very possible. On the website it states that paleontologists and experts debated for a long while on what the exact cause was. They went back and forth between all of what's brought up in the book :D
So eerie...but not that I'm complaining! :)
Some of those paintings are beautiful love seeing dinosaur paintings
Fantastic work as always. Really makes you think.
Really interesting stuff. You did a great job presenting it. Good shit.
what I want to know, is how come neither Muldoon, Harding or any of the other vets knew not to use sheep extract
I love the book content man. Keep up the great work and thanks!
I've read the entire novel earlier this year and I love it!