Is The Classic Car Market Crashing? Check Out The Charterhouse Auction In June 2024!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
  • Join us as we attend the June Charterhouse Auction, there are certainly some good bargins to be held at the moment.
    Some featured lots include a BMW 325i, LCD Hawke, Jaguar XJS, Lotus Eclat, Austin Mini.
    Some specials.....
    A car which has had £75,000 spent on it
    And including a Volvo which featured in a film....
    For forthcoming auctions - www.charterhouse-auction.com/
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Комментарии • 266

  • @gmac7947
    @gmac7947 20 дней назад +3

    Brilliant auction format sir ❤really appreciate your information 🚘🚙🏎️🚘🚙🚗

  • @jjhpor
    @jjhpor 19 дней назад +16

    Gee, if the classic car market is crashing maybe some people who like old cars will be able to afford them instead of investors.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  19 дней назад +2

      Looks like its a buyers market at the moment...

  • @MX-Mug
    @MX-Mug 23 дня назад +45

    Older cars from the 50’s and 60’s will drop now as sadly the people that can relate to them are passing away, cars from the 70’s 80’s and even 90’s are the big ticket items now, it all rolls on relative to the age of the buyers.

    • @waregraham8335
      @waregraham8335 23 дня назад +4

      Yes, Model T Fords were ( relatively ) their most valuable in the 70s, now 1950s cars are losing their audience

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +4

      I think you are right. The only pre war car with value seems to be the Austin 7. I look forward to Ford XRs only being worth a couple of thousand!

    • @terrapyn99
      @terrapyn99 23 дня назад +9

      ​1950s cars are better looking than 1980s cars.

    • @MX-Mug
      @MX-Mug 22 дня назад +3

      @@terrapyn99 Agreed, but it’s what we can relate to, a 1950’s Ferrari is a thing of beauty but for me as a 54 year old bloke I go gaga for a 80’s 308 or Testarossa 😄

    • @catherinewright8933
      @catherinewright8933 22 дня назад +4

      @@MX-Mug Iconic brand names like Ferrari, Bentley , Jaguar etc etc will always have a huge following no matter what their age. As a person nearing 60, classic racers / sports cars from the 50's and 60's appeal the most, rather than cars from the 70's that I owned during the 80's.

  • @carlmitchell9958
    @carlmitchell9958 23 дня назад +22

    Buy a car to have fun, why worry about prices……..swings and roundabouts.

  • @covidonenine1948
    @covidonenine1948 23 дня назад +27

    Not surprised so many cars were unsold. Estimates were unrealistic and reserve prices were too high

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +8

      Estimates are generally based on the reserve set, which is down to the sellers ambitions. As I said at the end I think sellers need to recalibrate their expectations. Its a buyers market at the moment.

    • @ianmontgomery7534
      @ianmontgomery7534 23 дня назад +4

      and the auctioneer was not enthusiastic enough.

    • @russthebiker
      @russthebiker 23 дня назад +13

      Caused by greedy people watching TV shows and thinking their cars are worth the same money
      Also far too many cars have been messed about with and not original or have had poor repairs carried out

    • @classiccars1994
      @classiccars1994 10 дней назад

      @@russthebiker couldn't have put it better

    • @abc33944
      @abc33944 8 дней назад +3

      Selling in a declining economy

  • @yosemitesam283
    @yosemitesam283 19 дней назад +10

    Makes me laugh when you see all the extremely average condition sapphire cosworths for sale on eBay etc for 30k plus, I’ve seen some very original low miles cars sell recently through auctions for below 20k there are some lovely cars out there for reasonable money at the moment, that MK2 Jag was beautiful and a bargain

  • @paulchamberlain6284
    @paulchamberlain6284 23 дня назад +8

    Very interesting video Trev. IMHO it would be better if the auctioneer remembered that it doesn't matter where you start, it's where you finish that matters.

  • @markjohn4802
    @markjohn4802 8 дней назад +3

    Classics should be fun, everyone should have one that wants one. I couldn't care if mine drops to nothing, it's not for sale.

  • @iand8331
    @iand8331 18 дней назад +10

    As a previous owner of one, hearing an MG Maestro described as “a nice little car” made me smile.
    I was actually sad when an attempt to steal mine was thwarted. Worst car I ever had, felt like it had been made up from leftovers and bolted together in a shed 😁

    • @robblack7560
      @robblack7560 11 дней назад

      I think a shed would have been better.

    • @rickyprice7586
      @rickyprice7586 9 дней назад

      Yeah I had a Maestro as a stop gap while my car was off the road. Probably the worst car I've ever had

  • @mossig
    @mossig 21 день назад +4

    The Volvo was a steal! I have a rare Ford Mondeo 4wd sedan. It's for sale at a bargain price. LHD in Sweden.

  • @AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq
    @AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq 11 дней назад +2

    The 1987 BMW is a great buy, back in 1987 BMW used to build cars employing skilled workers but now they are assembled by unskilled workers from bits that snap togethe like a Lego kit.

  • @alanpeachey4085
    @alanpeachey4085 12 дней назад +1

    Thank you for being you. What a wonderful walk-through the auction houses of our cars coming up. The most important thing is to get the use of the day to appreciate the keeping of history. In all aspects. I know we have lemons and we have garage. Queens. I have one. It’s a B.M.W, regards Alan from down under cheers bud

  • @frictionstreaker
    @frictionstreaker 23 дня назад +10

    The classic car market for the lower prices has been cooling for a year or so. There is always something not in the favour of the vehicle that stops it from making good money, Example BMW is Automatic, if it was manual I believe it would fetch better money. The average person has other stuff to worry about in the current economy. Auctions might be stretching the prices just to get the stock. Volvo C70 basically a ford with a different body, and if the roof goes wrong massive money.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      You could be right on the C70, there was a 207CC there as well that didn't sell (not really at the right auction IMHO). Maybe classic buyers are being cautious and waiting for the right car to come along?

    • @frictionstreaker
      @frictionstreaker 23 дня назад +1

      @@oscarsgarage447 Ford bought Volvo in 1999 and owned them for ten years, along with Jaguar, Land Rover, and Aston Martin. C70, S40, and V50 all used the same platform as the for Focus, and Volvo’s iconic 5 cylinder engine ended up in the ST.

  • @johnbriggs3916
    @johnbriggs3916 23 дня назад +13

    I'd say that these lots were at the wrong auction. Most attracted an average of one bidder -- that has to be down to the auction house.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +5

      Or could be a lack of buyers? They do have two internet bidding options so easy to access on line. I don't know the correct answer though!

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 23 дня назад +4

      @oscarsgarage447 Lack of buyers is down the auction house. They only have three jobs: listing the lots, estimating and attracting bidders. They fell down on the last one.

    • @martinbernard1052
      @martinbernard1052 19 дней назад

      Agree. Also the Auctioneer made virtually no attempt to 'sell' the cars and just read the catalogue scripts. If I was a seller I would be furious with lack of errort and enthusiasm.

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 19 дней назад

      @@martinbernard1052 No, it was already lost at that point. The (right) bidders just hadn't turned up to the auction. The only bidders were dealers hoping to get things really cheap.

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 12 дней назад

      ​@@martinbernard1052the cars aren't worth more because a bloke in a tie is 'enthusiastic'. 😆

  • @sportshatch
    @sportshatch 20 дней назад +3

    Thanks for posting. Very interesting to see how classic car prices are going. I’m sure there are a lot of buyers of hot Fords that are going to have their fingers burnt in the next 5 years.

  • @rodneyemmerich8828
    @rodneyemmerich8828 17 дней назад +3

    The Granada described as a "lovely big old granny" 😅😅😅😅😅 he will get rapped on the knuckles these days for that

  • @thevauxhallman7157
    @thevauxhallman7157 9 дней назад +1

    I would have liked to see the auction for the grey coloured Vanden Plas Rolls to see if their values still hold.

  • @catherinewright8933
    @catherinewright8933 23 дня назад +7

    There will be a big rebound in the classic car market, especially in the sports car market when all new cars have to be fitted with speed limiters. I think it becomes law in the UK next week !!
    Just imagine taking delivery of your new Ferrari and driving away from the showroom only to have the steering wheel judder, the instrument cluster light up, flashing warnings at you and the throttle pedal try and lift up under your right foot, because you went 3mph over the limit !
    Its the future apparently, I'll be living in the past with older classics thankyou !

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      Me too. You could well be right on future values. 20 years ago two stroke motorcycles were worthless, now highly sort after as no longer available.

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 12 дней назад

      ​@@oscarsgarage447they were never 'worthless' - but the people (like you) who didn't buy them then and can now afford a summer weekend toy are spending money on getting the bike of their dreams.

    • @hojo9115
      @hojo9115 12 дней назад +2

      I was never too keen on the 2 stroke bikes, I had a couple over the years, but I loved the Honda super dreams. I had a few of them back in my younger days. I saw one recently and it brought back so many good memories. I reminded my wife that was the bike we had when we were courting. Happy days

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 12 дней назад +1

      @@hojo9115 my first bike was the CB250T Dream.

  • @glovesoffofficial1382
    @glovesoffofficial1382 7 дней назад +2

    That jag mk 2 is worth at rock bottom 35 grand

  • @mgcarmkm4520
    @mgcarmkm4520 20 дней назад +11

    That auctioneer is at the wrong auction. He should be on Bargain Hunt selling knick knacks.

    • @RAW555R
      @RAW555R 20 дней назад +3

      Not very engaging is he, I follow ACA the 2 auctioneers there are great each with their distinctive catch phrases to listen out for which ads some interest!

    • @tillyfoxtrotter
      @tillyfoxtrotter 17 дней назад

      @@RAW555R The two on ACA are dreadful, The fat old cockney parrots the same old lines on every car whereas the bearded bloke seems only to have 'fill it up' as a strapline. If you think thats great then you need to get out more.

    • @thevauxhallman7157
      @thevauxhallman7157 9 дней назад

      @mgcarmkm4520 right on, that's exactly what I thought he's out of his depth at this auction definitely better suited to bargain hunt.

  • @robertcorradi8573
    @robertcorradi8573 10 дней назад +2

    Subscribed..... To the Point - no flannel format. Great stuff.

  • @erichunt2059
    @erichunt2059 22 дня назад +5

    auctions are for bargains you don't buy at an auction to pay retail prices.

    • @phillipevans9414
      @phillipevans9414 22 дня назад +1

      Indeed, the guide prices were akin to full retail whack, for top level cars. With a few exceptions (the '63 Jag), these were average fare, or flawed examples (auto in a BMW, non orig paint, aftermarket mods or just plain scruffy). Cheers!

  • @charliegardner6804
    @charliegardner6804 23 дня назад

    Great video thanks for sharing 👍.

  • @catherinewright8933
    @catherinewright8933 22 дня назад +2

    There are so many auction houses and online auction selling platforms. The are only so many sellers of good cars and only so many potential buyers. Matching the two to get a sale and a good price is becoming a bit of a challenge. A lot of auction houses are accepting pretty average stuff to sell and are effectively watering down the quality of cars going through. That wont attract bidders in a big enough numbers to get a bidding war, hence so many cars going for the starting bid and minimum reserve ! I'm not sure what the answer is other than to research the auction houses to see what they are selling and previously sold lots by them. That should you an idea if they are suitable to sell your car.

  • @MarkOBoyle-wx2ck
    @MarkOBoyle-wx2ck 21 день назад

    Thanks really enjoyed that video. I'm very keen to purchase a weekend car.

  • @garyfallows1123
    @garyfallows1123 22 дня назад +2

    Classic and second hand market has topped out and prices are falling, I drive a Mercedes W124 320ce, eighteen months ago I'd have got 10 grand plus, now they are for sale at half that price and still not moving, not that I'd sell mine, I love it, Anglia Classic Car Auctions might be worth a trip to do a video on, they've always got some nice stuff going over the block

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  22 дня назад +1

      Think you are right of values, and thanks for the heads up.

  • @Matnrach2-mf9qr
    @Matnrach2-mf9qr 23 дня назад +10

    £2.5k for the respray of the Lotus Eclat. That paint job is possibly the worst I have ever seen if you look on the close up photos on the website

    • @simonw8626
      @simonw8626 23 дня назад +4

      Why would you not Polish the wolf race wheels too

    • @Matnrach2-mf9qr
      @Matnrach2-mf9qr 23 дня назад +5

      @@simonw8626 why would you not put the correct wheels on either. Those Wolfrace wheels look terrible

    • @simonw8626
      @simonw8626 23 дня назад +2

      @@Matnrach2-mf9qr I have a feeling the very early ones also first esprit came with wolf race from factory I could be wrong

    • @Matnrach2-mf9qr
      @Matnrach2-mf9qr 23 дня назад +2

      @@simonw8626 Actually this is the base model 520 could well be. Never seen another early Eclat with these wheels though

    • @simonw8626
      @simonw8626 23 дня назад +1

      @@Matnrach2-mf9qr I looked to buy a 1983 model in late 80s was a beautiful car but got scared of mantance so settled on a starion turbo very similar looking car one I should have kept lol

  • @martinbernard1052
    @martinbernard1052 19 дней назад +3

    If I was one of these sellers I would be furious. Not enough effort made by auctioneer just the basic catalogue description.

  • @zeroone5097
    @zeroone5097 9 дней назад

    My fav cars there was the Ford Granada 2.8 and the Cortina in white stunning example , the price of these will keep climbing , would love to own that , what beauty , not a bus . that's a car you can recognise

  • @simonw8626
    @simonw8626 23 дня назад +3

    Really enjoyed this more of same please

  • @buckneighkidd419
    @buckneighkidd419 22 дня назад +3

    Prices are all over the place but quality cars still show through, difficult to buy a 'good' car at a cheap price these days. I've been to several auctions and dealers and frankly buying from a good dealer appears preferable than chancing it at the auction on a car that ok but not great.

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 12 дней назад

      Where do you think the dealer gets them from?

  • @johngibson3837
    @johngibson3837 23 дня назад +2

    Hey up oscar interesting video thanks mate

  • @CliffordClaytonGorovoy
    @CliffordClaytonGorovoy 22 дня назад +2

    Yes classic car prices are collapsing

  • @gldstone
    @gldstone 23 дня назад +4

    the bidding was certainly a bit grim at this auction. Could that 2009 Volvo really have featured in a 1997 movie? You said the link was tenuous but I had to go back and re-read the sign in the window that stated a cherry red C70 featured in the Saint movie. Only 1000 degrees of separation😃

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +3

      Unfortunately production deadlines stopped me investigating further... I will have a look. You may well be right with that degree of separation!

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 19 дней назад +2

      Crazy thing is the 1997 C70 doesn't look anything like this one. Also the 1997 was a actual Volvo and the later 2009 one was made by ford and was more or less a ford mondeo with different panels and a volvo badge

  • @davelee9791
    @davelee9791 12 дней назад +2

    So many people ploughed their money into hideously expensive restorations years ago and the vehicles are bringing a fraction of the prices today..Auction prices are realistic prices it only worth what people are prepared to pay.

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 23 дня назад +6

    will older car be able to be repaired soon under these proposed new laws ?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      Yes, I believe I saw an article in one of the classic weeklies that said it didn't affect working on older cars.

    • @alancrisp1582
      @alancrisp1582 23 дня назад

      🤥 Only if you trust what government politicians say they are going to do. And I myself do not trust any of them ! ⚠..

  • @davejohnston5158
    @davejohnston5158 17 дней назад

    Very tidy mkII jag. The Eclat was nice as well and for the informed buyer shouldnt cost too much to run.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  17 дней назад

      Agree on the Jag. Up close the Eclat had a few issues, and apparently stuck up headlights can mean a chassis issue - I was told the chassis is used to create the vacuum to hold them down, and so this suggests the chassis isn't air tight...

  • @rosewood1
    @rosewood1 19 дней назад +2

    I think the bottom is about to fall out of the classic car market especially for cars that require expensive professional work. So Rolls Royce BMW Mercedes will really suffer because these vehicles are too complex for most good home mechanics. Porsche and many others will also suffer.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  19 дней назад +1

      Fair point. I think the number of people prepared or able work on their own cars is contributing as well.

  • @Aut0five
    @Aut0five 23 дня назад +3

    eclat, with broken headlights, has cosmic wheels not wolfrace

  • @frictionstreaker
    @frictionstreaker 23 дня назад +4

    Ghia X, Dripping with rust tow bar panels are different colours and velour interior?

    • @andrewwalls4082
      @andrewwalls4082 23 дня назад +1

      I wouldnt say dripping with rust but I saw some specs from a computer screen in poor lighting !

    • @sportshatch
      @sportshatch 20 дней назад +1

      @@andrewwalls4082. It’s an old Ford. Not a classic car.

  • @PaulMappud
    @PaulMappud 23 дня назад +7

    The 2009 Volvo starred in a 1997 film... ?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      Damn good spot sir!!! Now I have re-read the sign it just states another C70 appeared in the film. A red one... There is tenuous, then there is this!!!

    • @PaulMappud
      @PaulMappud 22 дня назад +1

      @@oscarsgarage447 : Bunch of Ham Shankers, it's not even the same gen C70, it's like trying to flog every single Capri on sale by saying it starred in The Professionals... 😁

  • @h12jrg
    @h12jrg 18 дней назад

    when the Elan s2 was made Lotus were still under GM ownership the S2 was born because of the amount of unused parts leftover at the factory. The Kia Elan was the Later version

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  18 дней назад

      Yup, someone pulled me up on that earlier. I was close, but no cigar...

  • @paulkelly4731
    @paulkelly4731 5 дней назад

    If you follow BAT auctions, you've probably noticed the huge increase in the number of "bid to" auction results... seller's haven't received the "prices crashing" memo!

  • @catherinewright8933
    @catherinewright8933 23 дня назад +5

    Wish I'd known my old Hawke was up for sale. £5k is a bargain, probably not helped by the failed mot and rubbish weather so far up until June when this auction was. There were plenty of very average cars going through, the more desirable, rare, exotic will always find good prices. Some of todays "collectable" cars aren't really that great and never were, a reality check might be happening for sure.

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 23 дня назад +2

      It only sold because the one bidder was prepared to bid the reserve.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      I did think someone bid early on that one!

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 23 дня назад +1

      @oscarsgarage447 That was to scare off other bidders. We'll never know if it worked, because there were no further bidders 😉

    • @catherinewright8933
      @catherinewright8933 23 дня назад +2

      @@johnbriggs3916 Setting the reserve at the right amount is very important. The single bidder might have been happy to pay more, he did jump in early.

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 23 дня назад +2

      @catherinewright8933 The lowball bidding would have been from dealers -- professional time wasters. Most of the bidding was against the reserves -- wasting everyone's time. If you find yourself bidding against one of them they may run you up for the fun of it. Bidding high early will deter them. It's an aggressive move, suggesting you are prepared to go higher, without guaranteeing it. If they bid against you, they may find themselves stuck with it.

  • @bobfrankish8883
    @bobfrankish8883 23 дня назад +8

    Interesting video Trevor. Looks like the bottom has definitely fallen out of the market. Only £3800 bid for the E30, ridiculously cheap. People are (possibly foolishly) ploughing tens of thousands into these cars as we speak.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      Thanks Bob. I think we will see the 'project' cars really drop in value if good examples are available for sensible money. I have just bought a classic for a quarter of what someone spent on its restoration...

    • @bobfrankish8883
      @bobfrankish8883 23 дня назад +4

      @@oscarsgarage447 yep, that seems to be how it is Trevor. I watched an immaculate R reg. Aston Martin DB7 go through Mathewsons, it fetched £12,750. It came with receipts for work done by Aston Martin for over £51000, which obviously doesn't account for what the poor guy paid for the car originally, he'd owned it for about 10 years I think. He must have been sick as a parrot!

    • @davidthomas8317
      @davidthomas8317 23 дня назад +1

      @@bobfrankish8883 IF THAT E 30 WAS A MANUAL IT WAOULD OF SOLD

    • @russthebiker
      @russthebiker 23 дня назад +1

      Been repainted in a different colour !
      Original colour schemes always hold car values

    • @gartgreenside3657
      @gartgreenside3657 15 дней назад

      @@davidthomas8317 I'm looking for a more modern BMW than an E30, but still an old one... most are autos and manual is a must for me.

  • @philelliott5327
    @philelliott5327 23 дня назад +7

    Poor old auctioneer getting moody about everyone chatting up the back rather than bidding on his overpriced cars.😂 Anyone who bought into classics as a pension scheme must be twitching a bit currently.

    • @AA-69
      @AA-69 23 дня назад +4

      Hopefully... Because it's those speculating Barstewards that drove the prices through the roof !.. And all to sit in a bloody heated garage and gather dust ... Get it up them 😄

    • @alancrisp1582
      @alancrisp1582 23 дня назад +1

      ​@@AA-69🤔 Not true, I think you are greatly generalizing in your comment. Not all of us buyers at these classic car auction houses are like that at all !...

  • @roelandzw1846
    @roelandzw1846 23 дня назад +3

    Reaction from the continent: too many bread and butter cars. In my opinion the market is only letting steam off. No need to worry.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +1

      You could well be right. Market was strong during covid and now people are selling those cars more sensible market rates.

  • @EdVanMeyer
    @EdVanMeyer 12 дней назад

    The market is changing, the old pre-war slow cars are out and the post war classic is in fashion.

  • @SA-zoom1
    @SA-zoom1 20 дней назад +2

    That auctioneer was terrible. The tone and enthusiasm of the auctioneer makes all the difference

    • @nickcastings1568
      @nickcastings1568 19 дней назад

      Still a lot better than that bloke from the container auction series on tv!

  • @Lookup2Wakeup
    @Lookup2Wakeup 23 дня назад +2

    What was the buyers premium? Another 30%?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +4

      Buyers premium is 12.5% plus VAT, so 15% in total.

  • @andrewsundell2502
    @andrewsundell2502 22 дня назад

    Lotus, same issue, ULEZ!

    • @abc33944
      @abc33944 8 дней назад

      Eclat has never had any desireability

  • @russthebiker
    @russthebiker 23 дня назад +5

    Jaguar mk11s are ten a penny these days, nice origional cars seem to sell well,also colour is important and engine size and manual gearbox
    The auctioneer looks pig sick at times
    A secret to selling is personality, he just reads it out like the news ! No charisma
    The granada is spoilt by all the tat all over it, crappy spotlights etc,ruins the clean lines, and if you look closely black paint on the rear of the sill, provably hiding recently repair or rust
    A friend has one the same without all the chav junk all over it,looks much nicer

    • @paulknight1332
      @paulknight1332 13 дней назад

      The paintwork looked like a patchwork quilt - so many different coloured panels!!

    • @paulknight1332
      @paulknight1332 13 дней назад

      Plus the white wall tyres, any potential purchaser is factoring in putting sensible rubber on it. I only watched this video, not looked at the lots online but I could see rust on the rear wheel arch quite clearly so probably more elsewhere.

  • @noellavelle2091
    @noellavelle2091 23 дня назад

    All orginal boy races of the 80s
    Clean riight and correct selling well.The 17:45 up market 90s gear and the pre 70s stuff is falling of a cliff at the moment.The interest is not there.The people who looking for it want it for nought.Wish all the buyers and sellers well.

  • @colinleggett8686
    @colinleggett8686 День назад

    I am old enough to remember these cars when they were new. There is absolutely no way I would want one of them now and just make me laugh to see people pay stupid money for them 😂

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  19 часов назад

      Its called nostalgia... and sells well! 😂

  • @jeroenorriens2590
    @jeroenorriens2590 23 дня назад +8

    Wasn't the elan a GM project? Given the Isuzu engines they had

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +3

      You are correct (the auction is beyond all data range so have to wing it on my memory banks), however once Proton bought Lotus they sold the M100 design to Kia who then marketed it as the Vigato, mainly sold in Japan. So Proton was in the story, just not at the point I thought...

  • @classiccarrebuilds2771
    @classiccarrebuilds2771 5 дней назад

    If your in it for the money your in the wrong game, my ford 100e owes me around 25 grand, will i get that back when i sell it? Of course not but i’ve loved every minute.

  • @jonocharles1046
    @jonocharles1046 8 дней назад

    Flip. Look at the plate on the Granada estate!

  • @paramedicchrisbookseries
    @paramedicchrisbookseries 23 дня назад +1

    I personally think the 80s and 90s cars will grow in market value

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад

      Think they are already doing well, think the early noughties stuff will be the one to watch next.

    • @phillipevans9414
      @phillipevans9414 22 дня назад

      Yep, they are already off and running, for desireable stuff (check out the money early Supra's and other Jap sports/hot hatches are bringing) for last 5 - 10 years ish, and the more regular/everyday stuff will follow to some extent. I'm going the other way, I love my '80's & '90's stuff, but over the next 5 - 10 years will be looking for a couple of '40's & '50's bargains (Citroen Traction Avant, and a '50's Americana gem (Buick Roadmaster or similar), which are sure to come, to supplement my other '80's/90's desires. Cheers!

  • @BillOdyssey
    @BillOdyssey 23 дня назад

    MGB with 5 spokes? Presumably the owner kept the orig wheels...

  • @jpkatz1435
    @jpkatz1435 7 дней назад

    Old quote: "Rare and expensive when new, rare and expensive when old."

  • @frictionstreaker
    @frictionstreaker 23 дня назад +1

    Jag is nice but Automatic?

  • @jmtubbs1639
    @jmtubbs1639 15 дней назад +3

    How did a 2009 car appear in a 1997 film?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  15 дней назад

      Good point that I answered in an earlier comment. I didn't do my due diligence on that claim...

    • @jmtubbs1639
      @jmtubbs1639 15 дней назад +1

      @@oscarsgarage447 I see. Stranger claims have been made elsewhere. I think it all makes my car worth about 50p.

  • @fritzmuller8246
    @fritzmuller8246 12 дней назад

    If it's Italian and in good condition It'll sell very nicely thank you .

  • @frictionstreaker
    @frictionstreaker 23 дня назад +2

    The Mini It’s got a hole in the roof.

  • @andrewwalls4082
    @andrewwalls4082 23 дня назад +1

    As spectacular as the Jag Mk2 restoration appears to be , its restored not in its original colour and the receipts for the restoration are missing. True collectors only collect original cars or high level restorations in original spec , if the car was restored with its original colour im sure it would have made decent money even in this market

    • @phillipevans9414
      @phillipevans9414 22 дня назад +1

      I think it made about what I would expect...IMHO it's a GBP20-25k car. Cheers!

  • @roystonvehicles9129
    @roystonvehicles9129 23 дня назад +1

    Do you know what the white alpine made?

  • @atienooij
    @atienooij 23 часа назад

    interesting video

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  19 часов назад

      Glad you think so! We have another coming soon

  • @confederatenationalist7283
    @confederatenationalist7283 8 дней назад

    Ironically in my case its the gradual realisation the the reason for ownership of a quick modified 6.0 litre 5 speed manual series 3 XJ12 no longer exists.
    Built for fast continental road trips the new speed regime, combined with 2 euros per litre fuel prices, at 15 mpg at best or less than 5 mpg flat out, just doesn't add up over a 2,000 miles trip.
    Then there's Jaguars idea of 'classic parts' non support.
    I havent rushed out just yet to send it for scrap it's still the sad writing on the wall stage.
    So for me it's more a long drawn out emergency stop than a 4 wheel skidding lock up and crash.With the shock of not seeing this brave new world coming.

  • @VisorView
    @VisorView 14 дней назад +1

    The auctioneer has come from an era when the bidders had money, and a strong resale market. The cars sold themselves. He hasn't cottoned on to the current market in which he has to get enthusiastic to sell them. Sellers think that 'someone will buy it' and have high expectations. The market has popped and old cars with a few exceptions, are no longer an appreciating asset. You can't even get spares for old Astons any more.

    • @Gman-nb9ge
      @Gman-nb9ge 2 дня назад

      He seems a bit of a tool, like he can't be arsed

  • @sputumtube
    @sputumtube 9 дней назад

    8.06 - they're Cobra Supaslots, not Wolfrace.

  • @nearlythere9443
    @nearlythere9443 8 дней назад

    As we see cars from the 80's and 90's beginning to get a following, which is raising their values I do doubt they will have the long levity of the older analogue cars. Already I hear and experience difficulty in obtaining some electronic parts, even for cars from the early 00's. The one thing with the older analogue cars of the 50's. 60's and 70's is that you dont have ECU's which are critical becoming unavailable. Oh! I hear some say electronics can always be remanufactured and they will, for some cars, but at a price which would put them out of reach for more humble cars.

    • @confederatenationalist7283
      @confederatenationalist7283 6 дней назад

      Actually in the case of many 'analogue' types of injection systems like Bosch D or L and carburettor induction and distributor ignition systems it's often easier and better to throw it all out and replace it with modern engine management and distributorless ignition systems.
      Definitely in the case of the Jaguar V12 systems varying from the old Lucas Bosch knock offs to the even more difficult if not impossible to source Zyteck system.
      Its major engine and suspension components and even proper factory spec steel brake pipes which are the main problems.
      Even in the case of 1980's Jaguars numerous important parts are no longer available to the point where they sold off stocks of new V12 engine blocks as coffee tables.For an engine in which the slightest overheat typicially scraps the aluminium block by destroying main bearing and cylinder deck alignment.
      The problems of parts support for classics can't be underestimated.

    • @nearlythere9443
      @nearlythere9443 6 дней назад

      @@confederatenationalist7283 Indeed, Harry Metcalfe had the injection system on his V12 XJC changed to a modern system, but is was very expensive, which is the point I was making.

    • @confederatenationalist7283
      @confederatenationalist7283 6 дней назад +1

      ​​@@nearlythere9443
      Similar to mine although Harry also had to sink a tonne of cash in serious bodywork restoration.
      Which also shows the problem of maintaining classics v collapsing values.The numbers don't/won't add up to the point where buying and running a few years old F Pace SVR makes more sense if can put up with the auto box but has the advantage of speed limiter technology just set the max and have fun reaching it as fast as want with bit better fuel consumption as a bonus.
      Falling classic values can be a double edged sword and can't see much future without a Euro wide fuel tax relief system and much better factory classic parts back up including body shells and major body panel sections.

  • @rodcarter4502
    @rodcarter4502 23 дня назад +2

    Only uk marques why no oldie foreign ones ?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      It depends on what sellers want to sell I guess?

    • @dcarbs2979
      @dcarbs2979 22 дня назад +1

      BMW is foreign

  • @andrewsundell2502
    @andrewsundell2502 22 дня назад

    ULEZ,ULEZ, ULEZ, the Volvo a typical example!

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  22 дня назад

      To be fair, a lot of us go no where near ULEZ...

    • @darrelltregear756
      @darrelltregear756 8 дней назад

      ​@@oscarsgarage447 the all country will become ULEZ they want us all driving EVs

  • @jeremywentworth1833
    @jeremywentworth1833 23 дня назад +1

    Can't believe a 69 immaculate Mini cooper highest bid was 10 grand, this particular Auction house can't possibly advertise whats coming up in the next Auction. Mathewsons nearly all their cars go over estimated guide price , ive seen alot of minis through them do a lot more . The XJS in the video from 91ish to 2000ish until Jaguar killed off the V12 i was responsible as a metrology technician quality engineer Foundry tooling approval and all dimensional engineering reports for the jaguar V12 block & left & right hand heads & Straight Six block & head .

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  22 дня назад +1

      To be fair I have seen them at least advertise on Car and Classic website and also in one of the Classic weeklies.

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 12 дней назад

      ​@@oscarsgarage447they also list on The Saleroom.

  • @AA-69
    @AA-69 23 дня назад +10

    How did he Ever become an auctioneer 😖... His dad must have handed it to him on a plate ...He couldn't sell burgers to a fat bird outside a health spa !!!

    • @russthebiker
      @russthebiker 23 дня назад

      Looks like he has put a few away 😂

    • @Gman-nb9ge
      @Gman-nb9ge 2 дня назад

      Dish water dull

  • @frictionstreaker
    @frictionstreaker 23 дня назад +1

    I don’t get the auctioneer shushing the crown, what’s that all about?

    • @RAW555R
      @RAW555R 20 дней назад

      Yeah that's really off putting isn't it never seen that before, should have raised his voice if he didn't like the hubbub

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 12 дней назад

      It does get a bit noisy in the hall at Haynes museum when the crowd are muttering.

  • @joeloss1
    @joeloss1 10 дней назад

    Same with motorcycles...FS1E mopeds and Suzuki GT750 kettles (for example).....not £10k any more. There is still top money for what most collectors want.....original/unrestored in very nice condition......getting harder to find. Many classics for sale.....pretending to be something they are not. Be careful !

  • @Lookup2Wakeup
    @Lookup2Wakeup 23 дня назад +2

    So did the XJS convertible sell at £15k,?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +3

      Only if a deal was done after the auction. I think it was some way short of the reserve.

  • @OldLien1
    @OldLien1 23 дня назад +1

    WOW they are going cheap that mk2 Jag OMG cheap as chips

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 12 дней назад

      Didn't sell though.

  • @hojo9115
    @hojo9115 12 дней назад

    Very interesting video, but oh my goodness, the rover metro, a miserable car back in the day

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  11 дней назад +1

      Twas the Best Of British. Allegedly.

    • @Gman-nb9ge
      @Gman-nb9ge 2 дня назад

      I had one, did a job, small cars can be fun

  • @McRcFly
    @McRcFly 22 дня назад +2

    People are struggling

  • @robblack7560
    @robblack7560 11 дней назад

    No EVs for sale yet, I thought they were fast becoming classics?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  11 дней назад +1

      Not on my watch...

    • @abc33944
      @abc33944 8 дней назад +1

      Bottom falls out of an ev afer 3 years
      Ice conversions will be the only saviour for them

  • @dominicedwards9117
    @dominicedwards9117 22 дня назад

    The bmw 325 was cheap unless it was a shed?

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  22 дня назад

      There was a bit of rust on top of the passenger door otherwise it looked good.

    • @dominicedwards9117
      @dominicedwards9117 22 дня назад

      @@oscarsgarage447 very cheap then

    • @nickwalton8864
      @nickwalton8864 12 дней назад

      @@dominicedwards9117been off the road and mileage discrepancy

  • @johncamplin3557
    @johncamplin3557 22 дня назад +1

    Sorry but most of those cars are the unloved and you can see why. Absolutely hate the Lotus Eclat. Looks like a plastic door wedge!

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  22 дня назад

      It was of its time... remember the TR7, now that was a wedge!

  • @13Pandam
    @13Pandam 6 дней назад

    How does a 2009 Volvo star in a 1997 film???

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  5 дней назад +1

      Yeah, I got done over with that one...

    • @13Pandam
      @13Pandam 5 дней назад

      Well, apart from that little hiccup, I enjoyed the way you presented a car and then immediately watched it sell.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  5 дней назад

      Glad you enjoyed it. If it was scripted no one would need to comment!

  • @besenzon1
    @besenzon1 23 дня назад +3

    Wow, painful to watch. Buyer’s market

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +3

      I think you are right, at the moment it definitely is. I think sellers may need to recalibrate their expectations.

    • @besenzon1
      @besenzon1 23 дня назад

      @@oscarsgarage447 less people with spare cash.

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 23 дня назад +2

      It's an opportunity to trade up and buy the car you thought you could never afford.

    • @scottyg7284
      @scottyg7284 23 дня назад +5

      That auctioneer is definitely painful to watch.

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 23 дня назад +2

      Most didn't sell because the buyers didn't turn up.

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 23 дня назад +2

    the new generation wants 2000 era cars. dont see how these 1970s and 1980s cars keep their inflated values

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 23 дня назад +3

      The 70's and 80's cars keep their value because they are largely bought by more mature people ,who are at a stage in their lives that they have both greater disposable income and savings.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  23 дня назад +2

      Fast Fords from the 70s and 80s are doing well still...

    • @londonman8688
      @londonman8688 23 дня назад +1

      @@oscarsgarage447 thats tue .. but are escorts appreciating now as much as later fords.

    • @londonman8688
      @londonman8688 23 дня назад

      @@jjefferyworboys8138 i would say that is done especially for the 70s cars they have had full appreciation, that generation is looking to sell their cars but the next generation wont want them

  • @HatBilly2008
    @HatBilly2008 10 дней назад

    Cellphone generation, doesn’t care about old cars, they want their cars to be a cellphone and drive that, not a car from the past.

  • @alanpeachey4085
    @alanpeachey4085 19 дней назад +1

    Hi bud I am an automotive electrical and mechanical engineer. We grew up with all of the very much transport for everybody. It seems though now that the youth of the day don’t want them it’s a crying shame still I have my garage queen I enjoy. It’s just like a painting on the wall we can’t drive them because we will have brotherhood thug waiting for us with a blue uniform worthless system rotten with crime. Regards Alan from down under where we have the same system. The ABC and the BBC agenda is never let truth get in the way of a good story.

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  19 дней назад

      I think the skill set of working on your own vehicles is dying off.

  • @jakmoan
    @jakmoan 20 дней назад

    Market has gone to the dogs Classics are for nothing 😢

  • @trentsteels
    @trentsteels 23 дня назад +3

    Prices are going to fall even further tomorrow once LIEbour get in 😳

    • @sg-yq8pm
      @sg-yq8pm 22 дня назад +3

      grow up

    • @lestrem11
      @lestrem11 18 дней назад

      @@sg-yq8pm Not keen on his spelling (😉 ) but he may have a point.

  • @tractorhead971
    @tractorhead971 19 дней назад +1

    That auctioneer’s depressing voice, gloomy face and lack of charisma will sap anyone’s enthusiasm for life let alone old cars.

  • @Aut0five
    @Aut0five 23 дня назад +1

    metro 'starter classic' - TRANSLATION: shite car. that only a fool would buy

    • @oscarsgarage447
      @oscarsgarage447  22 дня назад

      Interestingly a friend of mine bought it, hoping to do a video on it as the Cabrio is quite rare now.

    • @tillyfoxtrotter
      @tillyfoxtrotter 17 дней назад

      @@oscarsgarage447 It was always rare. Strange in fact thar Rover made it at all but they sure didnt make many.

  • @davidadams5116
    @davidadams5116 3 дня назад

    Just wish he would stop saying" and away now" It's seriously annoying

  • @douglasboswell5737
    @douglasboswell5737 10 дней назад

    Stuttering auctioneer

  • @bolshevikproductions
    @bolshevikproductions 17 дней назад

    Just old rubbish

  • @bolshevikproductions
    @bolshevikproductions 17 дней назад +1

    Just old rubbish

    • @mikeolly67
      @mikeolly67 9 дней назад

      Old rubbish is far better than new rubbish

    • @bolshevikproductions
      @bolshevikproductions 9 дней назад

      @@mikeolly67 it’s just old scrap. Get a life.

    • @mikeolly67
      @mikeolly67 8 дней назад

      @@bolshevikproductions I’ve got one already. Are you a 10 year old?

    • @bolshevikproductions
      @bolshevikproductions 8 дней назад

      @@mikeolly67 you’ve got some old banger ? Everyone an expert since social media 😂

    • @mikeolly67
      @mikeolly67 8 дней назад

      @@bolshevikproductions are you a Russian with a chip on your shoulder?