i recently purchased the 115 and i love it. i agree with the cables coming out the bottom kinda ugly. but i love it plenty of bike for me and keeps me out of trouble.
I had owned Yeti SB100 for two years. I can honesty say that that I never had any noise coming from switch infinity. I have sold the bike since I'm upgrading to the bigger travel. But Yeti sb100 was the best bike I have ever owned. In the past I had trek, specialized, Giant, cannonade, bmc, evil. This bike had improved me as a rider a lot. I had almost 0 maintenance with this bike. All I had to do is to grease switch infinity once every 3 months, sent fork, shock and dropper post for service once a year.
I really appreciate this kind of review. They put all that marketing hype into a product and then it’s replaced with something new 12 months later and forget about last years model. It’s good to see how the product has stood up against the new trends. Personally, I’d take the SB115 or the SB100 if I have access to parts to maintain them. Both are dream bikes for me and I don’t need a lot of travel. Makes the bike more fun. Nice video.
Just installed the SlackR headset on my yeti sb115 after being inspired by this video....haven't taken it to the trails yet but my initial first impression just riding around the neighborhood.....its a game changer. I didn't like how my SB115 felt so twitchy and the SlackR changed all that....
@@johnguillaume5919 I absolutely love it.... The install was easy and straightforward... The only thing that gave me issue was aligning it correctly to the middle of the frame and sanding some of the inside for the cup to fit... This is a game changer for sure, I feel as confident descending with almost minimal impact to this bike's climbing ability. I did not notice any changes in my reach, went with a - 1.5 and in my opinion it's perfect. Gone is the twitchy feeling front that I had before.... Well worth it and in my opinion yeti should have made it this way from the start... It's a completely different and better handling bike now
I love your investigatary videos delving into situations to find out solutions ! As a RUclipsr your rare in that respect !! Can you do a video on the Forbidden druid ? Looks awesome !!!
Hmmm, the head tube contraption you use is very interesting. I have the LR SB100 and the extra slack would be good. Need to investigate as I've been contemplating buying a Spur or Ripley recently.
My sb115 is a KOM machine. I have the same experience with climbing that you describe. If you put power into the pedal it just keeps clawing over everything.
Five words: Ibis Ripley after the hype. Gonna be saving up to get one next year to replace my hardtail, phenomenal bike. Also ride in Bay Area/So Cal areas.
@@mtbsavant5414 yea especially the following is very versatile if you play with the geo. Flip chip, fork travel, angle set. Can go from XC to almost an enduro
Enjoyed your video! Thanks for the tip on the 9point8. Having the capability to adjust HTA almost seems too good to be true. I will try it out on the 115 either with a Fox 34 SC or 140 Grip 2.
I tried so hard to make that bike work for me but could not get past the plagued switch infinity. After 2 frames and multiple switch replacements/services I finally gave up and sold my replacement frame on pinkbike. I have loved the switch infinity platform on all of the other bikes in the lineup, but there are major issues with it on quite a few sb100 frames. The way Yeti handled it was somewhat disappointing as well but I don’t want to start on that. I hope you nothing but luck with that frame because it really is a trail ripper.
Great video! Thank you so much for making it. I actually bought the SB100 this Fall after trying the Blur, Epic Evo, Tallboy, Epic, and other hardtails, and I really like it. I bought the C1 model and I have been thinking about changing the suspension. I looked at the SID and after watching this video I may look into it a bit more. I am also looking at the NOBL TR32 and different hub options. How do you like the NOBLs?? I am torn between these and the Enve M525. It's fair to say that wheelset, tires, suspension, and cockpit will be my next upgrades. I am looking to get around 26-27lbs from the close to 29 I think the bike weights, and being mostly a roadie I want to keep this bike trail capable but mostly cross country (ish?). I see Revel bikes sporting the Dissector/Rekon combo but I am looking into the Rekon/Rekon or Rekon/Rekon Race. Again, thanks for the video! I could talk to you about all these gear choices/upgrades for hours.
A light wheelset is your best bang/buck. The TR32's look rad, same width as the 32's but lighter. Match them with a lightweight hub and you're good to go!
@@mtbsavant5414 Thanks for the reply! The TR32 is 1mm less wide (internal) on the back and I talked to NOBL and they said the 32s were more compliant (25%). Given that I don't think I will use a tire over 2.4 in the back I should be fine with 26mm. I looked at the DT180 hubs to get the lightest set up possible but I really really like the Onyx for their silent performance (and they're based in Minnesota where I live). Unfortunately they're the opposite of light, although they don't add rotational weight. I thought the I9 Hydras would be a good compromise between light and engagement performance albeit fairly loud. We'll see... Thanks again! And great videos. Keep it up.
@@jsasa5668 IMO unless you're smashing this bike on big rocks, a tr32 wheelset with 180 hubs and lightweight spokes would be killer on this bike. Had I not already had my 33 wheelset (which is 4 yrs old) I would have gone this route. I have 180 hubs on another wheelset and they're very quiet with some dt grease in them
@@mtbsavant5414 I am glad I wrote to you, and even gladder you replied with this feedback. I am not smashing big rocks at all. I like to stay on the ground for the most part and our terrain here in MN is mostly hardpack with some roots and rocks in some areas (Cuyuna, Duluth) but I don't ride "enduro style aggressive" but more like XC. Your comment is probably what I needed. DT180s may not be as cool looking as others, or as customizable with colors, but I may be going this route! Thanks a lot! Cheers! PS: did you try the Revel Ranger yet?
Nice video as always! Wanted to gauge your thoughts on the following: Since my riding style is like yours; not into jumping, I prefer long distance, climbing and technical trails. I have a SB4.5 stock and love the light weight upgrades you made to the SB100. What would happen if you did the same to the sb4.5? Would you recommend to invest in similar upgrades to my bike? Buy SB100 / SB115 /SB130? The only reason I have the SB130 on here is I'm a heavy rider 220lbs and have listened to you say that heavier riders should add spacers or upgrade to fox 36 140/150mm or get a bigger bike like the SB130. Thanks for reading and for your time for sharing pertinent and insightful videos. Cheers, Erik
Dude i ride a foundry. A 100mm ht w trail tires and 3 volume spacers with a short stem on everything, all the scary steep stuff. Not as fast as my full enduro rig, but still pleanty capable
I knew it was a Yeti. Happy new year and great job on this one. I wonder if you noticed the steeper STA as well in the climbs? Where did you get those rubber cable inserts?
@@mtbsavant5414 Lol, I get ya man, nobody ever wants to get rid/sell a bike to diminish their quiver! Do u still have an enduro style bike? A mega tower?
Yes in principle the Geoshift obtains the same result but it's designed for bikes with traditional press in cup headets. Some newer bikes have what's called IS headsets which doesn't use press in cups, but rather the bearings sit right on top of the carbon, so pre-SlackR kit there was no way to slacken the HTA for these bikes.
That helps. I was not sure if the SlackR was the only option for my SB100. Sounds like it could be perfect to make the SB100 more capable the trails here in Colorado. Appreciate it!
Great video. I have a large TB3 - is the 9/8 slack-r the best option for angle sets or can you recommend another brand which doesn’t increase stack as much.
Fantastic video. Curious about your tire selection for this kind of bike, looks like a reckon out back and dissector up front. Still your preference or have you found a different go to set?
Can you confidently recommend the angle-set headset for this SB100?? I’m pretty dissatisfied with the SB100 and the 130fork I have fitted to it climbing wise and the HA angle and forgiveness I was hoping for with the longer fork on the downs.. didn’t quite make it much more confident & if anything took it out of balance a bit more then I hoped.. I’m thinking maybe go back to the 120mm fork & put the Angleset on & just get a better rear shock or have the current one rebuilt at full flow
Yeah dude, highly recommended however the catch is you have to have 20mm of extra steerer tube to make it happen. The kit adds some stack to the front end however that's mostly offset by the fact slackening out the bike also lowers it. I'm stoked on this bike with 120mm of travel especially since we both have bigger bikes too :)
@@mtbsavant5414 awesome I dont run a slammed stem and like at bit of height under the 120 fork.. the 130 fork has me running maybe 6mm spacers under the stem so I think it’s too high anyway with 130, so 120 will keep it balanced a bit better perhaps.. just want that 66degree angle instead of the knife like 67.5! Yes the Mega is unreal with the ZEB and Cascade link & new X2 rear shock! Wow 🤩 Now I just need to figure out how to make the sb100 a bit more comfortable and not crazy XC like
Great video. I would lie if I said I wasn't jealous. I really wish there was something similar for the sub 3K price range like these. Seems like only the super fancy brands like specialized, transition, yeti are doing these downcountry style bikes. I've been searching around for something that is similar to this, but nothing exists in the affordable price segment I think. If anyone knows any EU available options that I've missed - I'd be happy to check.
@@mtbsavant5414 jury is still out on the end price and availability in Europe. Also the bike is pretty heavy, especially for the category. Spec is also not that great.. It's still good that there is something. Other manufacturers seeing there's demand may get us more short travel bikes.
I prefer the SB100 because I'm a fan of the new SID suspension, but if I had an SB115 complete I'd swap to a lighter wheelset and tires, drop the air spring to 120mm and pick up the SlackR kit and at that point it's really close!
HOLD UP! I went through 2 years of an SB100 and replaced it with an SB115 and I’m now just finding out about SLACK R! More details please. Which setup did you purchase? I’m going to purchase one for my 115. I had offset bushings on my 100 to give me 1 degree but they won’t work on the 115.
Measure your head tube length and check out their web site which will guide you to the parts you need. My size large has 123mm head tube and I ended up getting the "golf" and "mike" kits however both kits share the same bottom piece The Golf will put your bike around 66.2 degrees where the mike will get you just under 66 (around 65.8).
@@mtbsavant5414 awesome, thanks for the info. The HTL on the 100 is the same as the 115 so I’ll likely get the same. Did you feel the “mike” shorten the reach and slackened it out too much? I have an SB150 so the HTA doesn’t bother me, it’s more the reach getting shorter. Appreciate you, man!
@@tlouie32 HTL is size specific so make sure you have the right number. The Mike actually made the bike slacker than my Spur which I quickly adapted to. The shorter reach wasn't a big deal for me because I sized up to a L on this frame and had plenty of eff reach to give up.
@@mtbsavant5414 great, thank you. I too ride a large so I think we’re in the same boat, I just didn’t size up being 6’. I have a Fox 34 140 Grip 2 on my 115 now that slackened it out slightly but its nearly noticeable. I’m going to order both and give it a shot. May put up a review or impression video. Cheers and keep up the great content!.
I own a Yeti ASRc and love it, but really wonder if all the weight and complexity of the InfinityLink is worth it. I mean you get a floating pivot that is a maintenance issue and substantial replacement expense for what exactly? Not entirely sure what that little bit of play adds to the handling/feel of the bike. Anyone want to enlighten me?
Hi, question for you on the Sidluxe shock you installed. Did you get a specific tune on it to match the SI suspension design? Thinking about swapping shocks but am concerned that it isn't just a simple swap but rather a swap and then custom tune to work with the rest of the suspension design.
I’ve owned the factory SB115 since Oct, Fox 34 130mm up front, as a new rider what upgrades would you suggest on this bike if any to give it a bit more stability without compromising climbing agility?
Great, video. thanks! Can you please advise if there are more parameters to the slack R? (9point8 SlackR 1.5 degree kit) There are different sizes...I have a yeti SB100 which I'd like to buy this for. THANK YOU
Couple of things. Make sure you have 20mm of extra steerer tube available on your fork. Then you'll need to measure or obtain the head tube length from Yeti's online manual and plug that number into this web site along with your desired angle. The web site will spit you out the exact 3 parts you'll need. www.9point8.ca/index.php?route=product/product&path=124&product_id=261
@@mtbsavant5414 Too bad! Given your experience, do you think it would have made a more "modern" ride? I'm highly intrigued by that component - perhaps worthy of its own video?
@@rivertranced Yes and No. I didn't mention it in the video, but the key to this project was to "upsize" on the older frame to get the numbers to line up with something modern. This size L Yeti now has almost the same numbers my M spur. The angleset does reduce the reach a bit so it could make a short bike even shorter.
Will there be any issue running the shock at 190x40 vs the stock 190x37.5. Yeti state that long shocking the sb100 will causes the SI linkage to travel beyond it's intended range and will causes damage.
I have a 2021 140mm Fox 36 Grip2 on my SB115. I had a 2021 Fox 140mm Fox 34 Grip2, but it was not supple at the beginning of the stroke and was too flexy. I'm wondering, if I slacken the HTA it would push the weight distribution more forward, and return the BB height closer to original design spec.
Well yes and no. Keep in mind the SlackR kit adds 10mm of axle to crown length as well which means it would almost be like running a 150mm fork. However the good news is that pushing out the front wheel mostly offsets the additional stack height since it lowers the front end as well. I'd give it a go and see if you like it, and if it feels too high then you could get a 130mm air spring. I don't feel pitched forward at all with the angleset. In fact it makes me feel more centered and gives me the opposite net effect. Nothing we're doing it permanent so I encourage you to experiment and find what works for you!
@@mtbsavant5414 Thanks for the input. I don't think I have enough steerer tube left to keep the same stem height with the SlackR. I'm wondering which plays a bigger role in downhill handling: slacker with less travel or more travel but less slack?
hi everyone, I’m new to mountain bikes is yeti considered a really high-end brand for mountain biking because these even used cost around $2500 and that’s insane to me. are there any good budget or value pics for new mountain bike riders? 😅
Very nice video I have sb100 yeti do you know the size of bearings how can I get the manual or instruction for the bike thanks God bless you San Diego California 👍
Soo many beautiful bikes available but at some point the escalating prices are going to backfire . There are only so many people that are willing or have the finances for these bikes and the companies are not doing themselves any favor by focusing their advertising on the most expensive models and ignoring the mid range bikes which comprise the bulk of their sales . Advertising of course is all about feeding into people's desire for prestige and uniqueness and if the hype is absorbed deep enough into ones heart and mind they will tolerate exorbitant prices , but there IS a limit and i believe that limit has been reached .
Hello very interesting review. What about a 190 x 42.5 stroke shox in the frame? Will this work? Getting to 113mm of travel then, did anybody tried this before?
Not that I'm aware of. The problem is more with the switch infinity running out of travel before it touches the frame. I would stick to 40mm with the stock link
Oke in a few weeks i will have a 190 x 45 shox to test things. I will post the results then. Also over here in europe the swiss yeti importer has the sb115 linkage for sale. I am looking at a shop that will sell this as a loose part. So maby we can make a sb115 from a sb100 frame.
Recently picked up a TurQ frame with 34 fork, all kashima etc pretty cheap. Built an slx/xt 12sp DT, wide Spank rims, 800mm carbon bar etc, amazing bike. I do mainly xc and light trail work locally so it’s perfect, can take way more too when I travel elsewhere.
The SB100 geometry is just to short and steep for me. I'm into short-travel bikes but not XC geo. I hope Yeti updates the geo on the on the SB100/115 soon. Give me a 76* STA, a 65* HTA, and a long reach. Making long slack bikes is something Yeti does well. Otherwise, I wouldn't buy one. The Spur is far superior to the SB100/115.
I used to think that way too, however the trick with the SB100 is to size UP. My L Sb100 with the angleset has nearly the same geometry as my Medium Spur now in terms of HTA, Reach, CS, and overall wheelbase. The STA is slacker on the Yeti but keep in mind it has less travel and therefore I'm not sagged in as much.
@@mtbsavant5414 I find HTA, STA, and Reach to be a confusing way to describe how progressive the geo of a bike is. Instead, I find front-center to be more useful. The front-center of the size-L Spur is 784mm and size-XL SB100 is 769mm. The size-XL SB100 front-center is 15mm shorter than the size-L Spur which I think is significant. I'm 5'9" and I prefer Trailbikes with a 480-500mm front center. I have no problem sizing-up. If I was going to buy the Epic Evo, I would buy the size-XL with a 789mm front-center. However, If I was going to buy the Stumpjumper, I would buy the size-L with a 796mm front center. The size-XL SB100 doesn't come close to having a long enough front-center for me.
@@jennifersandoval7525 Keep in mind your front center measurement takes into account the HTA as well which the angleset increases pretty significantly. I ride my M spur and L Sb100 back to back and they feel remarkably similar now. I will say the downside to sizing up on older bikes is the increased standover and longer seat tube which limits the dropper length.
@@mtbsavant5414 Using an angleset to slacken the HTA will increase the front-center. But, why buy a bike that has bad geo and then have to use an angleset to fix it when you can buy a bike with that comes stock with good geo.
Sounds like all ya did is rebuild a 3 years old bike to be your Spur, not really reviewing the bike as she was originally built. Ya can do the same new life to any bike. Mechanically speaking my experience is if you ride a full suspension bike a lot then you better learn to wrench on them because they all have a lot of moving parts and require a fuck ton of maintenance to keep her riding like new. I think the mistake yeti made was to say the sb100 was a xc trail bike which lead people to ride her like a 130mm travel bike rather then a xc bike. The switch link does come loose and all your info on that is spot on but I haven't noticed it coming loose on xc rides only when you treat her like an All Mountain Ride. Its super easy to check . just a few minutes while lubing the chain
Lol I work at a Yeti dealer and use the same Italian car analogy when customers ask about them We had a guy get his switch link overhauled at Yeti HQ while in Golden only to have it come loose on the next ride. Hopefully the third iteration of the hardware from the 115 holds up better
There are no shortage of bikes and frames on Alibaba. This is almost comical of a bike and frame when you consider you can put a 2k full Carbon trail bike together on Alibaba that will utterly humiliate the Yeti.
No bicycle is worth more than $1000 sorry. No matter what they put on it (unless its an actual motor). Even then, it still wouldn't be worth it. Especially when every brand outsources their frames to be built in China. No regulations means a lot.
Sorry dude your just wrong. There is so much difference in ride quality when you jump from a $1000 bike to a $3000 bike. Most bicycle frames are made in Taiwan btw. You probably aren’t a skilled enough rider to notice the differences of bikes “worth more than $1000”. 😎
I meet Yeti riders pretty often on my trails. The conversation usually goes like this, “Hey, can I get past you”, or “ On your left!”. 😎
Skill > expensive bike
Funny, I ride a Yeti and it's usually me getting asked that or hearing on your left.
hope you moved out of the way promptly, being held up by lesser people really brings out my dislike for the poor
fradd I’m the one telling them “On your left” or “Hey can I get past you” hahaha
i recently purchased the 115 and i love it. i agree with the cables coming out the bottom kinda ugly. but i love it plenty of bike for me and keeps me out of trouble.
I had owned Yeti SB100 for two years. I can honesty say that that I never had any noise coming from switch infinity. I have sold the bike since I'm upgrading to the bigger travel. But Yeti sb100 was the best bike I have ever owned. In the past I had trek, specialized, Giant, cannonade, bmc, evil. This bike had improved me as a rider a lot. I had almost 0 maintenance with this bike. All I had to do is to grease switch infinity once every 3 months, sent fork, shock and dropper post for service once a year.
I really appreciate this kind of review. They put all that marketing hype into a product and then it’s replaced with something new 12 months later and forget about last years model. It’s good to see how the product has stood up against the new trends. Personally, I’d take the SB115 or the SB100 if I have access to parts to maintain them. Both are dream bikes for me and I don’t need a lot of travel. Makes the bike more fun. Nice video.
Appreciate the comment
Great series here! Not everyone can get the latest models and this just is super relevant right now
Glad you like them!
I have a million miles on my sb100, every time after a service I swear it’s better than ever. I wish yeti would make a new SB100 and ditch the 115.
Hey, what's up guys, nice to be here so early, really interesting and I love the videos!!
Hey, thanks!
Whoa! Savant puts out a new vid! Stopped editing my video and gonna watch this instead!
Haha, thanks Joe
Great vid! I always look forward to seeing your videos in my recommended
Glad you like them!
That bike is beautiful. Also that Spur is on our list. Crazy how these new short travel 29ers are so fun and surprisingly capable. Great video!
They are!
Just installed the SlackR headset on my yeti sb115 after being inspired by this video....haven't taken it to the trails yet but my initial first impression just riding around the neighborhood.....its a game changer. I didn't like how my SB115 felt so twitchy and the SlackR changed all that....
Nice! Report back once you get some trail time
Doing the same. Would love to hear the ride report
@@johnguillaume5919 I absolutely love it.... The install was easy and straightforward... The only thing that gave me issue was aligning it correctly to the middle of the frame and sanding some of the inside for the cup to fit... This is a game changer for sure, I feel as confident descending with almost minimal impact to this bike's climbing ability. I did not notice any changes in my reach, went with a - 1.5 and in my opinion it's perfect. Gone is the twitchy feeling front that I had before.... Well worth it and in my opinion yeti should have made it this way from the start... It's a completely different and better handling bike now
That ability to change the head tube angle though 👌
game changer
danm bro, you riding Cinderella like you wanna catch her before midnight
lol
Ooh I can’t wait for the revel rascal after the hype
Mine is arriving today!
@@lukewilliams7788 enjoy it man! best bike I ever rode!
That bike looks so rad
I actually have a Ranger arriving today (was reading too fast) Wonder how it compares to the Yeti with your mods
I love your investigatary videos delving into situations to find out solutions ! As a RUclipsr your rare in that respect !! Can you do a video on the Forbidden druid ? Looks awesome !!!
Thanks I appreciate that. Would love to try that bike for sure!
Man... that's a beauty of a bike. I've got to give one of these ST 29'ers a go one of these days.
Perfect bike for around here :)
Liked the buying advice on switch / pivot wear. Keeping it real. Thanks.
I used a -1.5 Angle-set on my SB 4.5 and it rips downhill now. Not crazy faster on same trails but so much more composed=fun
That bike is so sick…love my Megtatower but sometimes a short travel beast like that can be fun as well
Great vid
The Mega is sick too. I kinda miss mine ;)
Hmmm, the head tube contraption you use is very interesting. I have the LR SB100 and the extra slack would be good. Need to investigate as I've been contemplating buying a Spur or Ripley recently.
My sb115 is a KOM machine. I have the same experience with climbing that you describe. If you put power into the pedal it just keeps clawing over everything.
Right on
Five words: Ibis Ripley after the hype. Gonna be saving up to get one next year to replace my hardtail, phenomenal bike. Also ride in Bay Area/So Cal areas.
That magic forest vibe thou...
Lol
Love your videos. Great narration, videography etc. 👍
Thank you very much!
Nice vid. I got an Evil Following V1 and did a similar thing. Still some bikes out there that are a couple years old, but are awesome
Right on. I love how Evil is embracing the use of anglesets on their bikes for customers to experiment.
@@mtbsavant5414 yea especially the following is very versatile if you play with the geo. Flip chip, fork travel, angle set. Can go from XC to almost an enduro
Enjoyed your video! Thanks for the tip on the 9point8. Having the capability to adjust HTA almost seems too good to be true. I will try it out on the 115 either with a Fox 34 SC or 140 Grip 2.
Glad it was helpful!
My friend, you are truly a savant
Not really, just a geek who's into bikes :)
Cool project--Nice work! I really enjoyed it.
Thank you very much!
I tried so hard to make that bike work for me but could not get past the plagued switch infinity. After 2 frames and multiple switch replacements/services I finally gave up and sold my replacement frame on pinkbike. I have loved the switch infinity platform on all of the other bikes in the lineup, but there are major issues with it on quite a few sb100 frames. The way Yeti handled it was somewhat disappointing as well but I don’t want to start on that. I hope you nothing but luck with that frame because it really is a trail ripper.
Sorry to hear about your experience. I'll definitely report back with a long term update
Any additional updates on this bike? Still riding it?
Nice video! You can eliminate any rattle with thicker 5mm cable housing.
Thanks for the tip!
Like the update on the HTA. Would be useful on 115 as well. TY
Game changer for me, and surprisingly not talked about much
Well now I want to go ride my SB100. It's been sitting for months, but only because I have a trail running addiction.
Get out and ride!
Just got mine built up, it's amazing. Fastest bike I've ever had. Is Yeti selling that special link that the 115 has, now?
Great video! Thank you so much for making it. I actually bought the SB100 this Fall after trying the Blur, Epic Evo, Tallboy, Epic, and other hardtails, and I really like it. I bought the C1 model and I have been thinking about changing the suspension. I looked at the SID and after watching this video I may look into it a bit more. I am also looking at the NOBL TR32 and different hub options. How do you like the NOBLs?? I am torn between these and the Enve M525. It's fair to say that wheelset, tires, suspension, and cockpit will be my next upgrades. I am looking to get around 26-27lbs from the close to 29 I think the bike weights, and being mostly a roadie I want to keep this bike trail capable but mostly cross country (ish?). I see Revel bikes sporting the Dissector/Rekon combo but I am looking into the Rekon/Rekon or Rekon/Rekon Race. Again, thanks for the video! I could talk to you about all these gear choices/upgrades for hours.
A light wheelset is your best bang/buck. The TR32's look rad, same width as the 32's but lighter. Match them with a lightweight hub and you're good to go!
@@mtbsavant5414 Thanks for the reply! The TR32 is 1mm less wide (internal) on the back and I talked to NOBL and they said the 32s were more compliant (25%). Given that I don't think I will use a tire over 2.4 in the back I should be fine with 26mm. I looked at the DT180 hubs to get the lightest set up possible but I really really like the Onyx for their silent performance (and they're based in Minnesota where I live). Unfortunately they're the opposite of light, although they don't add rotational weight. I thought the I9 Hydras would be a good compromise between light and engagement performance albeit fairly loud. We'll see... Thanks again! And great videos. Keep it up.
@@jsasa5668 IMO unless you're smashing this bike on big rocks, a tr32 wheelset with 180 hubs and lightweight spokes would be killer on this bike. Had I not already had my 33 wheelset (which is 4 yrs old) I would have gone this route. I have 180 hubs on another wheelset and they're very quiet with some dt grease in them
@@mtbsavant5414 I am glad I wrote to you, and even gladder you replied with this feedback. I am not smashing big rocks at all. I like to stay on the ground for the most part and our terrain here in MN is mostly hardpack with some roots and rocks in some areas (Cuyuna, Duluth) but I don't ride "enduro style aggressive" but more like XC. Your comment is probably what I needed. DT180s may not be as cool looking as others, or as customizable with colors, but I may be going this route! Thanks a lot! Cheers! PS: did you try the Revel Ranger yet?
@@jsasa5668 Have not tried the ranger yet, but really want to!
Has anyone found a source to get the SB115 link to do the conversion?
Great video. Very relevant and informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video as always! Wanted to gauge your thoughts on the following:
Since my riding style is like yours; not into jumping, I prefer long distance, climbing and technical trails.
I have a SB4.5 stock and love the light weight upgrades you made to the SB100.
What would happen if you did the same to the sb4.5?
Would you recommend to invest in similar upgrades to my bike? Buy SB100 / SB115 /SB130?
The only reason I have the SB130 on here is I'm a heavy rider 220lbs and have listened to you say that heavier riders should add spacers or upgrade to fox 36 140/150mm or get a bigger bike like the SB130.
Thanks for reading and for your time for sharing pertinent and insightful videos.
Cheers,
Erik
Dude i ride a foundry. A 100mm ht w trail tires and 3 volume spacers with a short stem on everything, all the scary steep stuff. Not as fast as my full enduro rig, but still pleanty capable
Rad!
I knew it was a Yeti. Happy new year and great job on this one. I wonder if you noticed the steeper STA as well in the climbs? Where did you get those rubber cable inserts?
I didn't notice much change to the STA. The rubber cable guards were purchased directly from Yeti
Dig the video, & glad your back in the tribe...however now you have two bikes that are extremely similar?? Are u gonna keep both??
Haven't fully thought this through yet lol
@@mtbsavant5414 Lol, I get ya man, nobody ever wants to get rid/sell a bike to diminish their quiver! Do u still have an enduro style bike? A mega tower?
@@AngrywolverineMTB I sold the megatower to pick up a Transition Sentinel during the summer.
Great Vid! Hey how do you like the Trailcross Lt?
They're great shoes. I have both the low and high top.
Great video and very interesting!
Thanks!
Great video and tweaks to an amazing bike! Would the Wolf Tooth GeoShift Angle Headset work the same for a 1 degree slacker angle? Thanks
Yes in principle the Geoshift obtains the same result but it's designed for bikes with traditional press in cup headets. Some newer bikes have what's called IS headsets which doesn't use press in cups, but rather the bearings sit right on top of the carbon, so pre-SlackR kit there was no way to slacken the HTA for these bikes.
That helps. I was not sure if the SlackR was the only option for my SB100. Sounds like it could be perfect to make the SB100 more capable the trails here in Colorado. Appreciate it!
So a 40mm stroke clears the tire / seat tube on the SB 100 with no issue? Looking at squeaking out a few extra mm's of travel. Thanks
It did for me with a 2.4 tire
Great video. I have a large TB3 - is the 9/8 slack-r the best option for angle sets or can you recommend another brand which doesn’t increase stack as much.
The slackr is the only game in town for IS headsets
Fantastic video. Curious about your tire selection for this kind of bike, looks like a reckon out back and dissector up front. Still your preference or have you found a different go to set?
Can you tell me the slack-r kit specs that u got for this bike
Great project! I ❤️even more now 😂
You love me either way
can you do an "After the Hype" on an SB130? As always, awesome video!
I'll try!
What's the mount you were using for the the fork shots?
Here ya go - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XGFV5CG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are you still diggin the Dissector and Rekon combo? I'm looking for a front tire for my SB100 for the East Bay. I'm thinking Forekaster on the rear.
Yep it's my go-to now for 9 months out of the year. For really dry and dusty conditions a dissector dissector setup is hard to beat
Can you confidently recommend the angle-set headset for this SB100?? I’m pretty dissatisfied with the SB100 and the 130fork I have fitted to it climbing wise and the HA angle and forgiveness I was hoping for with the longer fork on the downs.. didn’t quite make it much more confident & if anything took it out of balance a bit more then I hoped..
I’m thinking maybe go back to the 120mm fork & put the Angleset on & just get a better rear shock or have the current one rebuilt at full flow
Yeah dude, highly recommended however the catch is you have to have 20mm of extra steerer tube to make it happen. The kit adds some stack to the front end however that's mostly offset by the fact slackening out the bike also lowers it. I'm stoked on this bike with 120mm of travel especially since we both have bigger bikes too :)
@@mtbsavant5414 awesome I dont run a slammed stem and like at bit of height under the 120 fork.. the 130 fork has me running maybe 6mm spacers under the stem so I think it’s too high anyway with 130, so 120 will keep it balanced a bit better perhaps.. just want that 66degree angle instead of the knife like 67.5!
Yes the Mega is unreal with the ZEB and Cascade link & new X2 rear shock! Wow 🤩
Now I just need to figure out how to make the sb100 a bit more comfortable and not crazy XC like
@@bike_somm The 100 rips when slackend out. Definitely give it a shot if you can
@@mtbsavant5414 on it ☝🏼
@@bike_somm It's hard to go from a Lambo (MT) to a Mustang (SB100), especially when its loaded.
Great review, cheers.
Nice work! For the slack R, did you have to file the inside of the head tube?
I didn't but ymmv
Great video. I would lie if I said I wasn't jealous. I really wish there was something similar for the sub 3K price range like these. Seems like only the super fancy brands like specialized, transition, yeti are doing these downcountry style bikes. I've been searching around for something that is similar to this, but nothing exists in the affordable price segment I think. If anyone knows any EU available options that I've missed - I'd be happy to check.
Ask and you shall receive. Ripley aluminum announced today!!
@@mtbsavant5414 jury is still out on the end price and availability in Europe. Also the bike is pretty heavy, especially for the category. Spec is also not that great.. It's still good that there is something. Other manufacturers seeing there's demand may get us more short travel bikes.
Trail looks like in Skaggs. Anyhow great idea reviewing older generation bikes!
Yep the end trail is at Skeggs. Love that place
1.5 vs 1.8• angle set which did you prefer and what did you notice :)?
Hey what's the weight of the bike ? ;) I think I'll tweak my Top fuel a bit after that vid. Cool build ! :)
27.5 with pedals
How would you compare the modified SB100 in this video to the SB115 you previously reviewed?
I prefer the SB100 because I'm a fan of the new SID suspension, but if I had an SB115 complete I'd swap to a lighter wheelset and tires, drop the air spring to 120mm and pick up the SlackR kit and at that point it's really close!
How much did the slack r kit reduce the ha? I'm assuming around 1.5 degrees?
Which equate to about 20mm longer wheelbase?
HOLD UP! I went through 2 years of an SB100 and replaced it with an SB115 and I’m now just finding out about SLACK R! More details please. Which setup did you purchase? I’m going to purchase one for my 115. I had offset bushings on my 100 to give me 1 degree but they won’t work on the 115.
Measure your head tube length and check out their web site which will guide you to the parts you need. My size large has 123mm head tube and I ended up getting the "golf" and "mike" kits however both kits share the same bottom piece The Golf will put your bike around 66.2 degrees where the mike will get you just under 66 (around 65.8).
@@mtbsavant5414 awesome, thanks for the info. The HTL on the 100 is the same as the 115 so I’ll likely get the same. Did you feel the “mike” shorten the reach and slackened it out too much? I have an SB150 so the HTA doesn’t bother me, it’s more the reach getting shorter. Appreciate you, man!
@@tlouie32 HTL is size specific so make sure you have the right number. The Mike actually made the bike slacker than my Spur which I quickly adapted to. The shorter reach wasn't a big deal for me because I sized up to a L on this frame and had plenty of eff reach to give up.
@@mtbsavant5414 great, thank you. I too ride a large so I think we’re in the same boat, I just didn’t size up being 6’. I have a Fox 34 140 Grip 2 on my 115 now that slackened it out slightly but its nearly noticeable. I’m going to order both and give it a shot. May put up a review or impression video. Cheers and keep up the great content!.
@@tlouie32 The angleset will make an immediate difference on how slack it will feel. It's not subtle :). Good luck and report back
sick build too
Thnx!
How do you feel about those new jumps on Cindy? Someone built them, and they're the kind that will shoot you OTB if you don't know how to ride them.
Quick question, how many bikes do you have?
At the moment, 5 ;)
I own a Yeti ASRc and love it, but really wonder if all the weight and complexity of the InfinityLink is worth it. I mean you get a floating pivot that is a maintenance issue and substantial replacement expense for what exactly? Not entirely sure what that little bit of play adds to the handling/feel of the bike. Anyone want to enlighten me?
How does that head tube angle slack-r work? I asked my local shop and they said it would not work on my sb115? Thoughts?
Check out hardtail party's video which explains the installation. It's basically stacked cups for is41 bikes
Hi, question for you on the Sidluxe shock you installed. Did you get a specific tune on it to match the SI suspension design? Thinking about swapping shocks but am concerned that it isn't just a simple swap but rather a swap and then custom tune to work with the rest of the suspension design.
Just an off the shelf medium tune
@@mtbsavant5414 Thanks for getting back to me.
I’ve owned the factory SB115 since Oct, Fox 34 130mm up front, as a new rider what upgrades would you suggest on this bike if any to give it a bit more stability without compromising climbing agility?
Great, video. thanks!
Can you please advise if there are more parameters to the slack R? (9point8 SlackR 1.5 degree kit)
There are different sizes...I have a yeti SB100 which I'd like to buy this for.
THANK YOU
Couple of things. Make sure you have 20mm of extra steerer tube available on your fork. Then you'll need to measure or obtain the head tube length from Yeti's online manual and plug that number into this web site along with your desired angle. The web site will spit you out the exact 3 parts you'll need. www.9point8.ca/index.php?route=product/product&path=124&product_id=261
@@mtbsavant5414 Dude, its done. a very nice result on the Slack-R installation. thank you very much for the great idea and support :-)
@@asaflevkovitz5250 right on. Glad it worked out for you!
How do you think the Slack R would affect the performance of your SB4.5?
I wish I found out before I moved on :(
@@mtbsavant5414 Too bad! Given your experience, do you think it would have made a more "modern" ride? I'm highly intrigued by that component - perhaps worthy of its own video?
@@rivertranced Yes and No. I didn't mention it in the video, but the key to this project was to "upsize" on the older frame to get the numbers to line up with something modern. This size L Yeti now has almost the same numbers my M spur. The angleset does reduce the reach a bit so it could make a short bike even shorter.
What color name is this? The light blue one. Is it a special combo?
Yeti turquoise with a gloss blue SID fork
Will there be any issue running the shock at 190x40 vs the stock 190x37.5.
Yeti state that long shocking the sb100 will causes the SI linkage to travel beyond it's intended range and will causes damage.
The SI link bottoms out at 41mm of shock stroke
I have a 2021 140mm Fox 36 Grip2 on my SB115. I had a 2021 Fox 140mm Fox 34 Grip2, but it was not supple at the beginning of the stroke and was too flexy. I'm wondering, if I slacken the HTA it would push the weight distribution more forward, and return the BB height closer to original design spec.
Well yes and no. Keep in mind the SlackR kit adds 10mm of axle to crown length as well which means it would almost be like running a 150mm fork. However the good news is that pushing out the front wheel mostly offsets the additional stack height since it lowers the front end as well. I'd give it a go and see if you like it, and if it feels too high then you could get a 130mm air spring. I don't feel pitched forward at all with the angleset. In fact it makes me feel more centered and gives me the opposite net effect. Nothing we're doing it permanent so I encourage you to experiment and find what works for you!
@@mtbsavant5414 Thanks for the input. I don't think I have enough steerer tube left to keep the same stem height with the SlackR. I'm wondering which plays a bigger role in downhill handling: slacker with less travel or more travel but less slack?
@@antoniost2 Geo > travel IMO
does the slackR change your reach?
Yes it shortens the reach a little bit.
Can we get an update on the gen 3 switch infinity? How has it held up?
It's been perfect. Hasn't come loose for over 250 miles.
Did you get the 30mm conversion kit? Thanks!
No. Don't get that kit. It's a creaky disaster
hi everyone, I’m new to mountain bikes is yeti considered a really high-end brand for mountain biking because these even used cost around $2500 and that’s insane to me. are there any good budget or value pics for new mountain bike riders? 😅
Down Country!!!!!!🤫🤫🤫
Marketing buzz words not allowed here. I should ban u lol
is the 9point8 slack-r hard to install?
I would like to hear what excuse Yeti has to have their super expensive frames made in Vietnam... Cool bike tho
Bikes are made anywhere from China, Burma, Taiwan and Vietnam these days. Take your pick
Very nice video
I have sb100 yeti do you know the size of bearings how can I get the manual or instruction for the bike thanks God bless you
San Diego California 👍
are you riding at skeggs?
Soo many beautiful bikes available but at some point the escalating prices are going to backfire . There are only so many people that are willing or have the finances for these bikes and the companies are not doing themselves any favor by focusing their advertising on the most expensive models and ignoring the mid range bikes which comprise the bulk of their sales . Advertising of course is all about feeding into people's desire for prestige and uniqueness and if the hype is absorbed deep enough into ones heart and mind they will tolerate exorbitant prices , but there IS a limit and i believe that limit has been reached .
Couldn't agree more. I've done some budget bike videos in the past and plan to do more in the near future. Stay tuned!
Hello very interesting review. What about a 190 x 42.5 stroke shox in the frame? Will this work? Getting to 113mm of travel then, did anybody tried this before?
Not that I'm aware of. The problem is more with the switch infinity running out of travel before it touches the frame. I would stick to 40mm with the stock link
Oke in a few weeks i will have a 190 x 45 shox to test things. I will post the results then. Also over here in europe the swiss yeti importer has the sb115 linkage for sale. I am looking at a shop that will sell this as a loose part. So maby we can make a sb115 from a sb100 frame.
@@Dennis-hy9sw You'll also need some bolts for the linkage since it's different and I believe the shock hardware is now 30mm
O oke that i did not know. Will start with the 190 x 45 shox just to test the limits of the swith. How do you like your sidluxe shox then?
So i fitted a 190 x 45 shox and the limit is 41mm stroke then the switch hits the end. So keeping it to 40mm stroke.
Recently picked up a TurQ frame with 34 fork, all kashima etc pretty cheap. Built an slx/xt 12sp DT, wide Spank rims, 800mm carbon bar etc, amazing bike. I do mainly xc and light trail work locally so it’s perfect, can take way more too when I travel elsewhere.
I can't be bothered to put up with s.i. when there are so many other options on the market.
The SB100 geometry is just to short and steep for me. I'm into short-travel bikes but not XC geo. I hope Yeti updates the geo on the on the SB100/115 soon. Give me a 76* STA, a 65* HTA, and a long reach. Making long slack bikes is something Yeti does well. Otherwise, I wouldn't buy one. The Spur is far superior to the SB100/115.
I used to think that way too, however the trick with the SB100 is to size UP. My L Sb100 with the angleset has nearly the same geometry as my Medium Spur now in terms of HTA, Reach, CS, and overall wheelbase. The STA is slacker on the Yeti but keep in mind it has less travel and therefore I'm not sagged in as much.
@@mtbsavant5414 I find HTA, STA, and Reach to be a confusing way to describe how progressive the geo of a bike is. Instead, I find front-center to be more useful. The front-center of the size-L Spur is 784mm and size-XL SB100 is 769mm. The size-XL SB100 front-center is 15mm shorter than the size-L Spur which I think is significant. I'm 5'9" and I prefer Trailbikes with a 480-500mm front center. I have no problem sizing-up. If I was going to buy the Epic Evo, I would buy the size-XL with a 789mm front-center. However, If I was going to buy the Stumpjumper, I would buy the size-L with a 796mm front center. The size-XL SB100 doesn't come close to having a long enough front-center for me.
@@jennifersandoval7525 Keep in mind your front center measurement takes into account the HTA as well which the angleset increases pretty significantly. I ride my M spur and L Sb100 back to back and they feel remarkably similar now. I will say the downside to sizing up on older bikes is the increased standover and longer seat tube which limits the dropper length.
@@mtbsavant5414 Using an angleset to slacken the HTA will increase the front-center. But, why buy a bike that has bad geo and then have to use an angleset to fix it when you can buy a bike with that comes stock with good geo.
Oops! Instead of 480-500mm front-center, I meant to type 780-800 front center.
Sounds like all ya did is rebuild a 3 years old bike to be your Spur, not really reviewing the bike as she was originally built. Ya can do the same new life to any bike. Mechanically speaking my experience is if you ride a full suspension bike a lot then you better learn to wrench on them because they all have a lot of moving parts and require a fuck ton of maintenance to keep her riding like new. I think the mistake yeti made was to say the sb100 was a xc trail bike which lead people to ride her like a 130mm travel bike rather then a xc bike. The switch link does come loose and all your info on that is spot on but I haven't noticed it coming loose on xc rides only when you treat her like an All Mountain Ride. Its super easy to check . just a few minutes while lubing the chain
First ? Happy new year btw
Happy 2021, best of luck everyone
Happy new year!
Lol I work at a Yeti dealer and use the same Italian car analogy when customers ask about them
We had a guy get his switch link overhauled at Yeti HQ while in Golden only to have it come loose on the next ride. Hopefully the third iteration of the hardware from the 115 holds up better
I'm hoping as well!
Not to mention the color and graphics on the newer bikes are dull and doesn't visually invite me to go riding like this 2018 model 😏
I don't mind a little splash of graphics
I like how he's like "there is trickery going on", no its just a good linkage. The spur is shitty linkage
Putting rockshox on a yeti is treason
The answer is: Well yes, but actually no
It's complicated lol
There are no shortage of bikes and frames on Alibaba. This is almost comical of a bike and frame when you consider you can put a 2k full Carbon trail bike together on Alibaba that will utterly humiliate the Yeti.
RUclips commercials ruin your video 4 of them. 👎
Wow I had no idea there would be that many
How dare he try to get compensated for making these free videos and reviews for us. The nerve...
No bicycle is worth more than $1000 sorry. No matter what they put on it (unless its an actual motor). Even then, it still wouldn't be worth it. Especially when every brand outsources their frames to be built in China. No regulations means a lot.
Sorry dude your just wrong. There is so much difference in ride quality when you jump from a $1000 bike to a $3000 bike. Most bicycle frames are made in Taiwan btw. You probably aren’t a skilled enough rider to notice the differences of bikes “worth more than $1000”. 😎