NEW VW ID3 revealed! - BIG changes in detail | What Car?
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
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The VW ID3 is a brilliant electric car with two HUGE flaws. Is that fixed now? Will this new model be a class-leading electric smash hit? Watch to find out what’s new.
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Video chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:31 Why the change?
03:05 New exterior
03:55 New interior
04:28 New technology
05:40 Other changes
07:40 Outro 
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What would you change about the ID.3? 🤔
Physical climate control buttons and no touch sensitive buttons.
A decent range for a change.
A decent 1.4 litre engine ! Loose all touchscreens . Real dials , proper handbrake please .
The price !
Software Development Team
Bit of a hit and miss then? Shame the stupid touch buttons didn't get ditched.
Exactly
It has been mentioned elsewhere that the touch sensitive buttons will be replaced in 2024.
It wasn’t good enough before and it won’t be until it has a proper and complete overhaul.
So they didn't actually fix the main problems?
nope, just minor things that end up being used as an excuse to make an already overpriced car even more overpriced
@@misterlove6225 A facelift usualy come with a price hike, but an EV from the biggest car manafacturer should come with a steep price cut and it says a lot about VW.
@@peternystrom921 except those who live in the past and buy their cars based on the reputation they had over 20 years ago, it's clear to everybody what VW is
Unfortunately as the steering wheel STILL has capacitive buttons (Allegedly changing to physical buttons but won't believe until changed) & the UK not getting the 12" screen till sometime 2024 it's STILL a definite no.
How could the first generation ID3 be described as an exceptional electric car with all of those significant issues? The ridiculous non-backlit sliding controls are remaining. Perhaps it's a potentially exceptional electric car, should they actually resolve all of the issues.
Great improvements but they did not get rid of the touch sensitive buttons which creates haptic feedback. I thought VW will fix this issue because of so many documented complaints from Id3, id4.... owners. For me its a big disappointment, not enough to consider buying this updated version. Great review 👍
It has been mentioned elsewhere that the touch sensitive buttons will be replaced in 2024.
@@NedNew Good to know. Thanks 👍. Something to look forward to!
I have a Born in the UK and the touch sensitive steering wheel buttons are immediately identifiable as terrible. I am a UX designer and there is no way they were tested with users. They would have immediately reported the problem. Sadly, there are then so many other UX issues in the infotainment, not just it being slow and buggy. Ambiguous settings and non localised settings make it all look like an afterthought. Try setting the distance from the car in front when in adaptive cruise. Which way is closer and which is farther away? It's a guessing game. This runs through to the phone app too. How easy is it to show a right hand drive car? Which heated seat do I turn on to heat the driver, the one on the right or the one in front of the steering wheel on the left? At least it is in English...
Not only EV, Golf 8 as well.
Big changes... Except the ones most needed. Such incompetence.
Which one is the most needed?
@@ElevatedVehicles Steering wheel button? Software that isnt dogshit and laggy? A nicer interior? You know, just the things you see and interact with all the time
Seems they've tinkered and done a rebrand but left the main issue in place!
Whilst removing the cheap car and upselling you🎉👏👏
Well done VW
Can't help but feel the original ID3 was essentially a beta test people spent tens of thousands to be part of.
A bit like Tesla and FSD ! I've had an ID.3 for 26 months, before that we had an BMW i3 for 3 years and we've also got a model 3. The Tesla isn't perfect (phantom braking anyone?) but it's leagues ahead of the VW. Pity really because I love the form factor of the VW. Now if Tesla were to build a car of that size .... even announce it tonight ...... still it will be 3 years away :)
I've got one. It's absolutely fine, the caterwauling about the software is really about the frequency of updates, most owners for whatever reason want this to happen every few months. It works fine in my opinion.
@@malcolmhedges7346haha. Right. I had a Tesla for two weeks as a courtesy car. It was rattling, very harsh ride, stupid B mode at all times, but it was nice to sit in it when it wasn't moving. That's seems to be the most important part for the average Tesla owner anyway.
@@F_wan I've had my Model 3 for 3 years. It doesn't rattle. We use it to drive to the in laws in Italy, it takes the same time as in a diesel and the charging network is faultless. I could not do that journey in the ID.3 due to the unreliability and coverage gaps of the public charging network, which is getting better but not matching the pace of EV adoption. I'm on 2.4 VW software, although the car tells me it's 2.3. Which is entirely logical, obviously. It's a good, boring VW runaround, nothing more. The interior quality is pretty poor. Much of this has been addressed in the facelift but for us first edition beta testers we've been pretty much abandoned by VW support. Personally I prefer full regen in the Tesla, but you can of course adjust it.
They didn't fix the price
VW clawing back as much profit as they can after losing billions from diesel gate. Shareholder dividends are always no.1 priority.
MG4 is the way to go.
Currently I am driving a golf mkv 8 (love it) but thinking to ditch it in 2 years time for an ID3
Fix the software problems, ID 4 is an excuse, sold mine and was lucky to get a buyer
The average interior plus buggy software and not so wonderful range put me right off, went with Tesla and never looked back
Over 70,000km done in my ID.3. Only thing I would like is to have timed charging that works reliably like I had in my eGolf with 100,000km done on cheap night rate electricity €1 per 100km.
Get rid of those buttons and put actual ones or just touchscreen
No update/price reduction on the e-UP?
Really disappointed about the steering wheel buttons - but what about the tappy tappy slidey slidey nonsense that VW are using for heating and ventilation? It looks as though that is carried over too. Very poor.
Getting rid of the black plastic on the bonnet is a welcome change. Longer bonnets look far better, and it served no purpose. Better quality materials were needed. The new infotainment with backlit buttons aren’t due until next year due to this facelift launching a year earlier than scheduled.
Much improved I wish I could get one in the US
The id3 would be such a dope car if it were around 25k
I might be hard wrong, but it doesn't look much bigger than our Polo (which is what the id2 is going to be/replace). But if the id2 is Polo sized, and does come under 25k (which I doubt, unless they put hardplastics in the car everywhere and even then it's gonna be difficult because the current polo without anything is already around 22k€) then it'd be really nice.
After I'm done with Uni I'll still work up for a Cayman tho 😆
Damn. I’m pleased about the update to the interior (I could now live with it whereas I just couldn’t with the previous model). I’m still not quite convinced that the software will be glitch free - I have a feeling that they have ironed the bugs out of the old software whereas really a ground up rewrite might be needed to make it excellent. But worst of all are the buttons or lack of physical buttons. Frustrating because the ID 3 is the car that makes the most sense for us.
No tow hitch option sucks. We could have this as our only car if it could pull a modest 500kg loaded trailer. Sold our 1st after a year for many reasons, but this was one.
A family car without roof bars is a no go.
Why it's a good idea to not rush to buy the first generation...
Would rather get the Cupra born but then I'd rather wait for an ID2 which should be the Polo sized EV
Yep looks actually good at least from the outside. Inside to much space ship 🛸 which isn’t really a good durable design choice.
I'm gonna buy ID.3, but only when physical buttons will be back on the steering wheel.
They made a mistake, but that happens... Reminds me of Apple's Touch Bar - which was getting enough hate to finally be gone from Macbooks.
Daytime running lights in the tail lights?
Is the larger battery size still limited to 4 seats?
Nice improvements and looks great but are the heating slider controls back lit at night?
Not until next year
No...
Not untill they can make another version who is even more expensive haha
@@peternystrom921 yes indeed, the prices only go one way.....up 🥴
way too expensive....
So no change apart from some interior materials and slight restyling. Software just a new version of old, hardware the same,[imagine trying to sell a smartphone for 3 yrs with the same processor and charging more for it]. UK and Ireland only get the smaller screen, and it seems things like heated steering wheel will be on subscripton. Oh and you have to wait until the end of the year. Tesla, BYD must be shaking in their boots.
Other reporters are saying the 12 inch screen will be on all obd cars but can’t go on the cars at the moment because of the positioning of the light switch pack. Thanks VW
Bit of a bummer if you bought the first model. Do those owners get a significant rebate for being guinea pigs to fix all the flaws?
Do the new ones?
the 45 KWh battery has not been around for a long time (August 2021,) it should come back with the facelift
When is this out?
They want 40k for some of the new id3,s, I wouldn't even give them 25k,how much extra for healthy seats 🤷
I thought this sum up was very fair. As much as you can pick fault with the first ID3s, they are still very desirable cars. All cars have their faults. I love my Kia Soul but could still produce a list of changes I'd make if I could. I think my next car might well be an ID3, once used examples come down into my price range. I'm sure the haptic buttons and slow Infotainment will irritate me a little, but get it on the open road (I have driven one) and none of that will matter.
Ran one for 2.5 years now. Can't fault the drive, space, engineering etc. Range is acceptable for what I paid. Tech and controls are pretty bad and this doesn't actually fix the big issues. It was a very cheap deal at the time, they couldn't move them when they first came out, and the retained value is way above the lease residual . I will likely keep it for a while now as it is clear EV's a good for many journeys but not for serious distance or remote journeys. Maybe upgrade in 3-4 years if we ever sort out public charging.
I don't like the interior. Screens looks like something that was glued to the panel. And this panel don't make you feel cozy
When will we see a ID3 GTX??
Silly thing is the biggest battery option only comes with two rear seats 🤦🏻♂️
All the major criticisms are still there. Steering wheel controls, Window controls, heating controls. This mk7.5 Golf owner isn't remotely interested.
Too bad we are still unlikely to see this in North America. Don't want a damn SUV (I live in a city, not in some remote area where there is tons of space for large vehicles). So far in North America we keep getting inflicted with yet more SUVs. Too bad.
I know. They say that Americans don't buy small hatchbacks, but I certainly see a lot of Golfs and GTIs around.
Really handy if you spent your money on the First Edition.
It’s always better to skip the first gen of any car
Really dislike the cheap 'n nasty looking screen stuck on the dashboard and generally looks cheap inside, awkward controls on the steering wheel, drum brakes, poor real world range. Looks nice in that green, though.
And I bet the base platform (batteries and motors) are completely unchanged. Car makers are going to love EV platforms. Barely any need to change anything year to year. They are going to save so much money. And that will hopefully make cars cheaper than ICE cars ever were. The initial costs might be high, but in the long run they will save.
Did I really see disc brakes at yhe rear wheels or are these still these cheap drum brakes? To me, it still seems to be well behind the competition.
Yeah.. the VW iD3 is the chosen one as my next car. I was eyeing it since it firstly appeared as a future launch. It was expected that even with all the experience VW's has under the hood that it would come with some 'details' to be shaved with time. Moreover in the brand new electric scene it was born. But I liked even so. The only thing that I still don't like is the size of the central screen, too big and cumbersome. And for what it's been announced in this video, the retouching didn't take care of it. What bad!
Will continue driving my two reliable diesel powered family cars for many years to come...
And I'm sure your asthmatic grandchildren will thank you.
@@benw4079 according to environmentlists, we should have been dead by now, but we still have clean fresh air and still cold with snow and lots of rain.
@@huss1205 omg 😮. The ignorance is real. And diesel is not just bad for the environment, it's bad for the lungs. Hence all the air pollution deaths.
@@huss1205 and climate change is not just about warming. It's droughts and floods, often in the 3rd world.
@@benw4079 nothing out of normal happened. Floods and stomrs have been happening since forever. Political agenda are driving everything in this world. The planet needs CO2 to stay alive. People with asthma in the third world are less in terms of percentage than that of the west. COVID-19 arrived and we thought it will kill 3rd world, it killed the US mostly and Europe...
Those buttons are just terrible, why would you not fix that?! ☹️
Still no backlighting for the sliders, still got the stupid controls on the steering wheel. RHD cars won't get the larger 12 inch centre screen and the windscreen wipers may be OK for LHD cars but are rubbish for RHD cars. Rear seat passengers still get cheap, hard plastics and the larger battery version is a four seater only.
I like the colour...😬
VW need to stop playing catch up with other manufacturers and need to give us cars of yesteryear! This is coming from someone who has a MK8 GTD and I've had a 2018 Golf SE too.
The car is fine as long as it costs less than a Tesla. Because that is the benchmark for effective EVs nowadays.
Steering wheel switch gear is a deal breaker.
Thank god.. I almost went for the previous ID3 went for a hybrid countryman instead same price but interior 100x better than this
Great video. It looks marginally better but I still wouldn't trust one. I would go for an MG4 over one of these as ever since dieselgate they've been on a downward turn and not one I want to be subjected to as an owner. I'd happily sacrifice some range and get the upcoming E-Astra.
Buy Chinese and support their invasion of Taiwan and their attempt to dominate shipping and all other activities in the South China Sea. Then try buying anything other than a Chinese car, because there will be no computer chips to control anything more sophisticated than a toaster. Not a good idea, unless you do want to live in a world dominated by a ruthless communist dictator. Our decisions have consequences.
感谢你们保卫了我们光荣的中国。 五十美分已存入您的银行帐户。 我们将期待未来的合作。 中国共产党光荣！！
I would hesitate to go for a Chinese car.
You guys better get used to the touch-sensitive buttons on the steering wheel, because all the VW ID series have them and will have them. Passat and Tiguan are not ID series are soon will be outdated. Maybe they will put again physical buttons on the Golf 8 facelift but again is not an ID model.
I wish it’d come to Canada.
Range? Quick? What?! It had low range and it was slow as hell!
I found the seats in the id3 some of the most uncomfortable I have ever sat in 0 lower back support the reason I didn't buy one
Less cheap plastic, normal dash and the price at least -5K. That's what i would like to change.
I think they moved to that because less animal stuff. And textile interior isn’t nice either.
so they forget 4WD and POWER .. they still don´t learn, and self driving is totaly out off the quistion
Yay! Doug is back!
They need to have a chat with Seat and Skoda
Skip to 4:09 and you'll find that VW didn't address the only concern you'll have with any current VW product. You're welcome.
not enough VW, new facelift and still 3rd 1, MG4 2, Seat
The software should be perfect, the steering wheel buttons and the stupid sliders keep me away from buying one.
Will the original ID.3 owners get an opportunity to trade in. This is the car they should have received.
This is one of the reasons I wouldn't touch an EV from any manufacturer at any price. Whatever you buy is superseded or has a major update within 2 years and you're stuck with an outdated model that dealers and private buyers really don't want.
Buy used then.
This is how VW messed up the first ID.3 launch. They rushed an unfinished product onto the market just to gain market share. All the software glitches and quality issues that beset the ID.3 at launch could have been ironed out if only VW had just delayed the launch by a year or two just to give themselves time to do everything right. And now, here we are again. This "new" ID.3 was not supposed to be released for a few more years. So why is VW rushing it onto the market again? They are about to release another unfinished product yet again as if they didn't learn anything from their previous mistakes. This is unacceptable. This is something that people would normally get fired for. How the top decision makers at VW still have their jobs is beyond me. VW can completely fix everything wrong with this car if they can just delay its launch by the few years that they had initially planned. It's so frustrating.
Silly rear electric window set up
Still using piano black huh? 😢
VW wasn't able to optimize their Infotainment-OS?
LMAO
And instead of fixing it they packed it into a "new" version.
Rip to all those old id3 drivers
But at the same time I'm not really surprised because the Cupra Born's configurator makes my pretty solid specced (r5 3600, rtx3060) PC sweat.
Boring, just use the golf, also to expensive, still no proper aircon controls and software is rubbish
Odd that the S is slower to 60.
Heavier battery?
@@dbank6107 probably
The display is terrible
VW listened to complaints about the touch controls and spent millions on a new... bonnet. Okay. And what's this I read somewhere about owners who paid £40K for their car having to pay a monthly subscription for the built-in dual-zone climate control, which I hope will be a dealbreaker for all potential owners if true. VW only sort-of listening it seems.
Who cars about fancy light displays ? Get your priorities sorted VW !!!! SMH.
it’s just a little small … inside
Looks nicer but the interior controls are still rubbish.
I don't think the last version was really fit for purpose looking at all the issues etc. All manufacturers need to bring back proper buttons and knobs and work on increasing the range but they would rather continue bringing us silly gimmicks instead. Also, car reviewers need to look at the way they praise cars based on driving them for one or two days and then people end up buying something that isn't as promised.
For an EV, you need to live with it for a week at the very least before you realise what compromises the manufacturer had to commit
If they weren't going to address the touch sensitive buttons on the steering wheel, there would be nearly no point to the update.
Rushing an update risking more teething problems and not solving the previous ones may not be the best strategy to stay in business.
Considering it's very easy to activate touch buttons when not needed/wanted, plus they are difficult to activate on purpose when wanted/needed, a car like that should be never be allowed on the road. Plus all the climate controls on a touch screen are dangerous.
For safety reasons, the volume control and all basic climate controls should be easy to operate without distraction. Think about a windscreen steaming up due to weather and having to quickly adjust controls to ensure proper visibility, for example.
If drivers have to be distracted by some tasks that can't wait (e.g. demist the windscreen while on a motorway) and it's not safe to stop (like in places where there's no hard shoulder and/or when you can't safely change lanes to get closer to the hard shoulder) and end up crashing, who's really to blame? The driver? The manufacturer? Whoever allowed the car to be homologated in the country?
Who's gonna repay the damages? And what about loss of life that can't be repaid or reversed?
Once some solicitors lose a loved one in an accident due to how idiotically it's engineered and decide to start a class action, then we'll see more CEOs stepping down and one of the world leader manufacturer building such an awful reputation they end up out of business.
Do you think those who used to run some companies from the past who used to be leaders and are now extinct or have been bought and re-invented saw their future coming?
If a brand gets too complacent, it is doomed.
Improve or go bust and make room in the market for some other brands who care more about the quality and safety of their cars.
Maybe the current CEO doesn't care because by the time the damage is done they already retired with a fat cat pension.
Hopefully the customers will care.
Not buying a car with touch sensitive controls Full Stop
As several others have already commented. Proper physical buttons/knobs would be a better solution than the current sliders and haptic rubbish! Sorry VW but I won't be saving up to buy one.😪
The previous ID3 wasn't that bad, I own one and have no problems
The software and haptic buttons are still a dealbreaker, to make me not buy this car. All electric cars should have the following:
1. Physical buttons to operate all the climate controls, including heating seats.
2. Physical buttons on the steering wheel.
3. Physical volume knob aside from the steering wheel.
4. Physical buttons for operating the lights.
All cars did this just five years ago.
Until this arrives, I will not consider the any electric car, this is because of concerns about safety while driving. Design is clearly being put ahead of safety and usability. And please remove the button to change window operation on the armrest, it’s the worst thing VW has ever made.
Software is still an issue, so much so that no matter how good the rest of the engineering is, the car is a fail.
10kE more expensive in Europe than MG4, you have to really like VW to buy ID.3.
I assume the rubbish 3 year warranty remains?
Well, that’s that then. That interior is still an absolute eyesore, the awful steering wheel controls are still the same and - judging by the video - the infotainment screen is still pretty clunky. Decision made; as a long term VW driver and currently owner of a pretty shabby id3 I will never buy another VW. They’ve lost their way since being found out with the Diesel Gate scandal it seems and have rushed this model into production. There are now better, much better, choices from other manufacturers. VW seem to have forgotten the basics. What a shame.
Cosmetic changes only. The awful infotainment system remains much the same. A real shame, as it is great to drive. The motoring press’s criticism of the interior quality is utter bollocks. The plastics etc are fine.
Looks like the ID.3 falls short yet again listening to your update on the technology and steering wheel controls. How very disappointing.
Overpriced indeed
when is VW going to get their act together and give EV cars a decent range.
They have to work hard on their efficiency. BMS is one area they need to improve a lot.
They do have the tech but it’s a problem of reach ability right now. E.g company can’t reach other one..
Still an epic fail by VW, sticking with dangerous controls makes this car unbuyable
I will never buy a car with touch-sensitive steering wheel buttons
The new ford EV will be a reskin of this. Will be interesting to see if they 1)make it more user friendly and 2)inject some dynamism into the chassis.
Maybe the ford will be the VW to have? Or a different brand altogether
Infotainment and software is still rubbish, main reason I’m getting rid of my one for a better electric car, not going to say what car most people could guess.
Nio?
Tesla
BYD Atto 3 on the way, hope Seal also part of UK line-up