I don't think that their primary interest in moving the game to unreal 5 is for the graphics. I think the real appeal would likely be that they could far more easily create original content. Very few people can create anything that would work in WoW quickly or easily, however if you're dealing with the U5 engine the number of people who'd be capable of working on the project expands exponentially. Literally thousands of times more people have the skillset, and in a coding environment that's almost certainly easier and more efficient to work with. That's not even mentioning the documentation.
@hobosnake1 Even if they were looking to ditch the old client, you'd want to maintain legacy support for ages for stability. Even if they want to transition over fully, they wouldn't throw things away. I'm imagining they've built a system that converts content made in WoW to U5 automatically (with clean up necessary, of course). However, if there are indefinite plans to support both, it'd still be advantageous and give them greater control. The legacy content may be stuck with pre-existing assets/models/skins, but once the content is swapped over, they can use new, custom models in their place. That means that, sure, the content is in both U5 and Legacy, but the "REAL" version is in U5. Hypothetically speaking, I don't know their plans. The disparity could spread in a multitude of ways.
@@hobosnake1 incorrect. There was more information in a QA they did the "legacy version" will be the graphics how they were but after a point the whole client is being fully ported over to UE5 the "legacy version" will be a 1:1 recreation of the old graphics in UE5. In time they will be 100% working in UE5 and no longer supporting players logging in on an old 1.12 client. But you will still have the option to have the game LOOK like the old graphics but it will be on the new engine. So yes, they will be able to take advantage of more than just the shaders and lighting. This was explicitly outlined by the owner/spokes person of the server that the new shaders, lighting etc is only the "Cherry on top" but players can still use the legacy mode to have the game look like the older version.
While not a 1:1 match for the style of WoW, I think Turtle WoW is one of the best matches for the style while introducing things like atmospheric lighting, higher res textures, more polys, etc
The reason why Turtle WoW and Ascension are popular is because Blizzard doesn't offer that type of gameplay in their own version of the game. I would love to play a real Classic+ made by Blizzard but until then I will just stick with Turtle WoW and Project Epoch
I LOVE Ascension! It's goofy but the only place where I can build my own custom Warcraft Hero. Blizz should really think about having a classless branch like SoD just for fun.
This was honestly a big miss by the boys. The cool shaders and lighting is the "selling point" but not why they are doing it. They are doing it because it will make modding 1.12 1000% easier to do which will allow them to not only make an implement custom content easier, but also make things that were previously impossible to do with wow's engine now possible. They gave some examples. But being about to more easily make content, implement the content, edit the world map and more is why they are doing this. They basically just did no research and shit on the unfinished "updated graphics" which I agree are not something I am super excited for (YOU CAN JUST NOT USE THEM). But the amazing custom vanilla content this server puts out and the prospect of it becoming 10x easier for them to do by switching engines and becoming unshackled by the old client's limitations is the important take away and they completely missed it. As well as this edging their work closer to being "transformative". There are many HUGE implications of this that are worth discussing even if you are someone who doesn't like how it looked, like me. Or if they didn't wanna discuss the server because it is a fan server they could have talked about what this could mean if applied to modern wow (meaning a whole new engine even if it was a new in house engine). Like if doing something like this would make developing WoW and the classic era of things like seasons easier to do instead of trying to work on a ramshackle of the currently retail engine (Generally one expansion behind) and using a lot of code from over a decade ago must greatly increase production time and chance for major issues. What would an entirely new WoW engine look like? Is it time for a new WoW engine as this one is just an ancient engine that has just been updated over and over again. Imagine how much tech debt retail wow's engine has. Honestly very disappointed in this channel for this poorly researched and thought out video that really just makes a mockery of one of the only teams out there putting out true vanilla+ content that stays faithful to the design of the game. Would have really liked to see better from Bellular..
Brother, there was no reason for 4 paragraphs, some people just dont care about what you do. If they dont like how it looks, then thats what matters to them. If you dont agree, it doesnt matter. No amount of research is gonna change whether they like how it looks or not
"World of Warcraft is supposed to be a super cartoony look" Nah, that was engine limitations of early 2000s 3D. Especially when you can have hundreds or thousands of players taking up a single space you have to be able to render all those polygons without melting GPUs The cartoony look came with later iterations, especially after MOP and Hearthstone, which ruined the vibes of the franchise as a whole. Its why I refer to modern WOW as World of Hearthstone, and with good reason. In fact WOW was supposed to have everquest style darkness at a certain point but was scrapped because they realized most people would be playing in the evenings. I will say though. WOW is woefully out of date and needs a refresh with a modern engine. Turtle is doing its own thing and I applaud them, though I wish they would actually go the full monte and start developing their own universe on the side to build their own IP and MMO off of, because these fan projects, no matter how great, are always under the threat of lawsuit shutdowns.
never been a fan of the cartoony painted on chunky armour assets in wow. The robes that stretch as characters run. I'd much prefer a wow 2 with a less cartoon style higher resolution fully rendered and modern assets. FF14 looks and feels great to play. That sort of style would be better imo.
Context for the "Extending The Lifespan of our Favorite 20-Year-Old World Statement". Turtle wow uses the vanilla client as opposed to most P servers that use the WOTLK client. The reason for the integration into Unreal Engine 5 isn't just because shiny graphics but also because the 20 year old game client they are using is getting more and more compatbility problems with modern computers and so intergrating it into UE5 actually makes it more comptable and apparently even easier to run on modern machines.
t-wow is all I play even tho I have a WoW sub. It's literally what we wanted classic+/SoD to be... classic WoW, with some minor fixes for things like shadow priest and ret paladins, a few extras here and there, new zones and additions to existing zones. Wetlands having a dwarven town etc. Just fleshes out classic so well!
@vytis47 I still think there's a reality where blizzard makes something like that. SoD is clearly not it though. SoD flew off the rails. Even in the first phase it was pretty wacky and not what you'd call classic+
Uhhh no.... Some of us wanted classic to go in a completely new direction from retail by adding a few sandbox elements into the game. We did not want the same general rehashed crap we've already did.
The UE upgrade is largely because of the limitation that the old 2005 vanilla client has. Like it barely runs on modern GPUs and get extremely confused if you have multi-monitor setup or slightly weirder resolution. The graphics update is just one of the feature the new client will have. Also Blizzard will never work on anything similar to what Turtle's custom content is about, because for them it's just too much effort that they can instead put into retail wow that earns 20x more. That's why they didn't care about merging random SoD changes to Era servers, it is cheaper to not have to maintain separate Era changes when they don't get that much money out from it.
For those who don't know, server side of things don't share any blizzard owned code and is written from scratch over a decade completely open source. Client doesn't know whether it is connecting to a blizzard owned server or a private one since the whole protocol between server client is emulated by checking client's operations. Server side has been so much mature that any able person can thus add content into it. However the client has always been the poster child since it requires not only developer contribution but also art direction and media creation. Private server competition is high and at some places where it is forbidden to play wow or simply is unaffordable , is used as an alternative as well. Having a client from scratch surely will make any server stand out but the question is whether the UE5 project will be open sourced or not (server side is open sourced). I think blizzard is waiting for that specific decision by turtle wow devs. My guess is that Turtle wow devs will release the UE5 wow client project publicly without the assets. I think that would be the safest way to go. Regardless, there are methods for extracting assets from a compiled client. Interesting times.
Turtle wow in thier QnA for UE5 confirmed that all modles will be updated too. Either downports from modern wow or handcrafted modles. So the polygon horde tents won't be there on launch
I won't deny that the UnrealEngine5 lighting stuff looks pretty with the right textures, and WoW's textures are kinda not meant for this kind of lighting, but I think what this is missing is the fact that Turtle WoW will probably be updating their own textures at some point and making this all look gorgeous.
Blizz hasn't shut both Ascention and Turtle because these projects are innovating WoW. If/when Blizz decides that they want to incorporate these innovations in the actual game they'll just hit them with a Cease and Desist letter and get the game assets in the out-of-court settlement. It's a smart way to save money on dev costs for R&D
i do really like the idea of wow finally getting the visual upgrade it needs the immersiveness of the world but done in a more realistic style texture but only to a point where its still wow better character models so armor always looks nicer a full on engine upgrade would be nice to, i just want wow to look the way we expected it was going to look in 2004
So, do we have to create a community event where we all pull our subscription unanimously all on the same day, with the ask that graphics get drastically revamped, I realize it can't be an instant thing, but it could inspire them to begin the project, create a teaser for that product as a "we hear you".
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Blizzard can't get to servers not hosted in US. Turtle is hosted in Russia, so they just can't. Ascension I don't know the details, but probably similar story.
WoW in unreal engine 5 still happen with same art style. Look at palia for example. it was built in unreal 5 and still has that nice cartoony feel like wow has now
@@garycannon4644I mean you can literally see the disclaimer in the video the textures and models will be updated to match it. And we already have legion graphics update mod for private servers.
I think they need to get the lighting from the game sun toned down. It seems to wash out the colors more for most textures, the colors are already washed out from the port change.
Yeah people don't understand that the style is what makes WoW last time so so much better. Like comparing to FFXIV which looks so much more dated because of the "more realistic" graphics look.
@@ShadowsOfThePast Classic wow actually leans more towards realism than modern wow , modern wow pipeline is all PBR stylized with ultramorphed buildings and stuff like that
@@Integroabysal Well to my untrained eyes it looks pretty similar of a "style". Ofc the newer expansions made tweaks so that many things look better for example character models..water.. lighting trees or other textures etc. For me the "feel" of WoW has been quite consistent.
@@ShadowsOfThePast yes they look better indeed , but if classic was somewhere between stylized and realistic , like right in the middle , modern wow past cata straight up became stylized and they started to double down on that :) im not saying is bad , to be honest wow engine is doing a great job at stylized graphics cause if we take the models from wow and import them to unreal with same settings and stuff like that they look like crap :D
*If Microsoft want to increase their Game Pass, why have they not got an Xbox version of Wow in development?* *It will definitely increase Game pass and Wow subs, and instead of subbing to wow, it could be part of the Game Pass model, or have a wow only subscription* *Either way it'll be a win for them and increased revenue*
It sucks all the charm out of WoW's graphics and just makes the models and textures look very janky. Playing WoW is like walking around in a Thomas Kinkade painting.
Am i the only one who really doesn't care for that? WoW's problem was never its graphics. The only thing switching it to UE5 would do is prevent a significant amount of people from playing it, especially in poorer parts of the world. Doubt that many brasilians would care to dump 4 months' worth of salary into a Starforge system just to play WoW, for example.
I also think WoW is very fine and has been improving graphically almost every expansion anyway. Going to a more "realistic" style would kill what makes WoW the game it is. It would also make it feel more outdated sooner because it's a 20 year old game and it looks amazingly good still because of the art style and it wouldn't look so good if they had a more realistic look.
People think slapping Unreal onto everything makes things cool... it doesn't. It looks nice as a fan art piece and some shots look cool, and I know its a pirate server so who cares, but adding it to the game robs WoW of its artistic design. I don't want to play WoW in a style that isn't WoW. Realism and better graphics don't a good game make. I did like the more darker night bits though, Wish Blizzard would make nights more darker at night, but the lightening and the smoother textures all look a bit off
Turtle will have a legacy mode that is gonna be 1 to 1 copy of the old look :) its not about the graphics, they are just a bonus for those who want to have them they did this so they have a easier time to mod the game in the vanilla+ way and dont need to strugle with the 1.1.2 client spaghetti code that they are using now
why go to UE5 only to make it a idiotic as wow looks now? the entire point of wanting UE5 is so it DOES NOT look like wow from 20 years ago LOL.. jeez and dont come at me with "art style" most of the art in wow is / was done because they didnt have a choice haha. wow is the only game that stayed in the past and calls it an art style.. cheapo mofos. when they make the game that LOOKS like it was made this side of decade ill bother playing it again.
I am just gonna say this here and now: eff off with the pserver hate. I know that you *have* to say it here since this is your job--I get it. The thing is tho, I hope Blizzard bans me for not hating on pServers. Some of them are 100% shovelware garbage cash shop scams and should be taken off the platform. Others tho, they are so far different from Blizzards game that they should and probably are intentionally left alone. Pservers are a place for players who enjoyed WoW back in the day, but no longer can due to Blizzard's ignorance or personal desires. Over the past several years, we have already seen how untrustworthy Blizzard is and it's only been up to today that they are only *sorta* listening to the community and making changes where there needs to be. Just leave them alone, let Blizzard deal with them, if you want to protect your subscription then just don't talk about them, but don't hate on them.
Oh boy I sure hope the bad vers didn't get posted
Here before better vers gets posted
I don't think that their primary interest in moving the game to unreal 5 is for the graphics. I think the real appeal would likely be that they could far more easily create original content. Very few people can create anything that would work in WoW quickly or easily, however if you're dealing with the U5 engine the number of people who'd be capable of working on the project expands exponentially. Literally thousands of times more people have the skillset, and in a coding environment that's almost certainly easier and more efficient to work with. That's not even mentioning the documentation.
except they're still supporting legacy non unreal version, so no. They can't really take advantage of anything but the graphics as far as I'm aware.
@hobosnake1 Even if they were looking to ditch the old client, you'd want to maintain legacy support for ages for stability. Even if they want to transition over fully, they wouldn't throw things away.
I'm imagining they've built a system that converts content made in WoW to U5 automatically (with clean up necessary, of course).
However, if there are indefinite plans to support both, it'd still be advantageous and give them greater control. The legacy content may be stuck with pre-existing assets/models/skins, but once the content is swapped over, they can use new, custom models in their place. That means that, sure, the content is in both U5 and Legacy, but the "REAL" version is in U5. Hypothetically speaking, I don't know their plans. The disparity could spread in a multitude of ways.
@@hobosnake1 incorrect. There was more information in a QA they did the "legacy version" will be the graphics how they were but after a point the whole client is being fully ported over to UE5 the "legacy version" will be a 1:1 recreation of the old graphics in UE5. In time they will be 100% working in UE5 and no longer supporting players logging in on an old 1.12 client. But you will still have the option to have the game LOOK like the old graphics but it will be on the new engine. So yes, they will be able to take advantage of more than just the shaders and lighting. This was explicitly outlined by the owner/spokes person of the server that the new shaders, lighting etc is only the "Cherry on top" but players can still use the legacy mode to have the game look like the older version.
Turtle Hype! Turtle Hype!
While not a 1:1 match for the style of WoW, I think Turtle WoW is one of the best matches for the style while introducing things like atmospheric lighting, higher res textures, more polys, etc
well... it captures the spirit of the art style better than reforged did ;-)
that I agree. that's what you get when you outsource your art team to a different country :P
The reason why Turtle WoW and Ascension are popular is because Blizzard doesn't offer that type of gameplay in their own version of the game. I would love to play a real Classic+ made by Blizzard but until then I will just stick with Turtle WoW and Project Epoch
I LOVE Ascension! It's goofy but the only place where I can build my own custom Warcraft Hero. Blizz should really think about having a classless branch like SoD just for fun.
These servers are popular sure, but let’s not overestimate how big they are versus what’s commercially available.
This was honestly a big miss by the boys. The cool shaders and lighting is the "selling point" but not why they are doing it. They are doing it because it will make modding 1.12 1000% easier to do which will allow them to not only make an implement custom content easier, but also make things that were previously impossible to do with wow's engine now possible. They gave some examples. But being about to more easily make content, implement the content, edit the world map and more is why they are doing this.
They basically just did no research and shit on the unfinished "updated graphics" which I agree are not something I am super excited for (YOU CAN JUST NOT USE THEM). But the amazing custom vanilla content this server puts out and the prospect of it becoming 10x easier for them to do by switching engines and becoming unshackled by the old client's limitations is the important take away and they completely missed it. As well as this edging their work closer to being "transformative". There are many HUGE implications of this that are worth discussing even if you are someone who doesn't like how it looked, like me. Or if they didn't wanna discuss the server because it is a fan server they could have talked about what this could mean if applied to modern wow (meaning a whole new engine even if it was a new in house engine).
Like if doing something like this would make developing WoW and the classic era of things like seasons easier to do instead of trying to work on a ramshackle of the currently retail engine (Generally one expansion behind) and using a lot of code from over a decade ago must greatly increase production time and chance for major issues. What would an entirely new WoW engine look like? Is it time for a new WoW engine as this one is just an ancient engine that has just been updated over and over again. Imagine how much tech debt retail wow's engine has.
Honestly very disappointed in this channel for this poorly researched and thought out video that really just makes a mockery of one of the only teams out there putting out true vanilla+ content that stays faithful to the design of the game. Would have really liked to see better from Bellular..
Must be why it's 'DONT POST BAD VERS'
lol
Brother, there was no reason for 4 paragraphs, some people just dont care about what you do. If they dont like how it looks, then thats what matters to them. If you dont agree, it doesnt matter. No amount of research is gonna change whether they like how it looks or not
Any content creator will be judged by the viewers on the content that they produce. @@corryncbr
@@CosmicCleric Wasnt the point
@@corryncbrThe point is they seem to have missed the point, based on the other person's comment.
"World of Warcraft is supposed to be a super cartoony look"
Nah, that was engine limitations of early 2000s 3D. Especially when you can have hundreds or thousands of players taking up a single space you have to be able to render all those polygons without melting GPUs
The cartoony look came with later iterations, especially after MOP and Hearthstone, which ruined the vibes of the franchise as a whole. Its why I refer to modern WOW as World of Hearthstone, and with good reason. In fact WOW was supposed to have everquest style darkness at a certain point but was scrapped because they realized most people would be playing in the evenings.
I will say though. WOW is woefully out of date and needs a refresh with a modern engine. Turtle is doing its own thing and I applaud them, though I wish they would actually go the full monte and start developing their own universe on the side to build their own IP and MMO off of, because these fan projects, no matter how great, are always under the threat of lawsuit shutdowns.
never been a fan of the cartoony painted on chunky armour assets in wow. The robes that stretch as characters run. I'd much prefer a wow 2 with a less cartoon style higher resolution fully rendered and modern assets. FF14 looks and feels great to play. That sort of style would be better imo.
'I wish that text wasn't there.' Why the F not? Get pissed at blizzard for refusing to stop the botting and cheating problem.
Context for the "Extending The Lifespan of our Favorite 20-Year-Old World Statement". Turtle wow uses the vanilla client as opposed to most P servers that use the WOTLK client. The reason for the integration into Unreal Engine 5 isn't just because shiny graphics but also because the 20 year old game client they are using is getting more and more compatbility problems with modern computers and so intergrating it into UE5 actually makes it more comptable and apparently even easier to run on modern machines.
Blizzard on their way to demonetize Belluar for posting 0.0005 second clip of a superior classic WoW engine froma private server:
As long as they're demonetizing Belluar and not Bellular, we're fine
t-wow is all I play even tho I have a WoW sub. It's literally what we wanted classic+/SoD to be... classic WoW, with some minor fixes for things like shadow priest and ret paladins, a few extras here and there, new zones and additions to existing zones. Wetlands having a dwarven town etc. Just fleshes out classic so well!
@vytis47 I still think there's a reality where blizzard makes something like that. SoD is clearly not it though. SoD flew off the rails. Even in the first phase it was pretty wacky and not what you'd call classic+
Uhhh no....
Some of us wanted classic to go in a completely new direction from retail by adding a few sandbox elements into the game. We did not want the same general rehashed crap we've already did.
@@henrythegreatamerican8136the only reason why classic + buzzwords exist is because of twow.
Objectively hilarious title.
The UE upgrade is largely because of the limitation that the old 2005 vanilla client has. Like it barely runs on modern GPUs and get extremely confused if you have multi-monitor setup or slightly weirder resolution. The graphics update is just one of the feature the new client will have. Also Blizzard will never work on anything similar to what Turtle's custom content is about, because for them it's just too much effort that they can instead put into retail wow that earns 20x more. That's why they didn't care about merging random SoD changes to Era servers, it is cheaper to not have to maintain separate Era changes when they don't get that much money out from it.
The curse of being wet by default.
For those who don't know, server side of things don't share any blizzard owned code and is written from scratch over a decade completely open source. Client doesn't know whether it is connecting to a blizzard owned server or a private one since the whole protocol between server client is emulated by checking client's operations. Server side has been so much mature that any able person can thus add content into it. However the client has always been the poster child since it requires not only developer contribution but also art direction and media creation. Private server competition is high and at some places where it is forbidden to play wow or simply is unaffordable , is used as an alternative as well. Having a client from scratch surely will make any server stand out but the question is whether the UE5 project will be open sourced or not (server side is open sourced). I think blizzard is waiting for that specific decision by turtle wow devs. My guess is that Turtle wow devs will release the UE5 wow client project publicly without the assets. I think that would be the safest way to go. Regardless, there are methods for extracting assets from a compiled client. Interesting times.
Love this version
Blizz dropped the ball again...who would've thunk it?
Blizzard already got them to take the video down lol
Turtle wow in thier QnA for UE5 confirmed that all modles will be updated too. Either downports from modern wow or handcrafted modles. So the polygon horde tents won't be there on launch
I won't deny that the UnrealEngine5 lighting stuff looks pretty with the right textures, and WoW's textures are kinda not meant for this kind of lighting, but I think what this is missing is the fact that Turtle WoW will probably be updating their own textures at some point and making this all look gorgeous.
Blizz hasn't shut both Ascention and Turtle because these projects are innovating WoW. If/when Blizz decides that they want to incorporate these innovations in the actual game they'll just hit them with a Cease and Desist letter and get the game assets in the out-of-court settlement. It's a smart way to save money on dev costs for R&D
they got hit with a takedown notice and the video has been removed. Pretty much after it blew up after asmongold reacted to the video.
i do really like the idea of wow finally getting the visual upgrade it needs the immersiveness of the world but done in a more realistic style texture but only to a point where its still wow better character models so armor always looks nicer a full on engine upgrade would be nice to, i just want wow to look the way we expected it was going to look in 2004
Afraid my voice will lure people in??? Am I a Siren??? 😅
Glad you showed me steel and sorcery, that looks like exactly what I've been after this whole time
Easiest slam dunk lawsuit for blizzard.
If wow did use ue5 they would most likely make a custom ue5 engine. Thus keeping it cartooney.
Blizzard won't take them down because they get ideas from these servers. SoD would never have happened if Ascension didn't exist. Guaranteed.
So, do we have to create a community event where we all pull our subscription unanimously all on the same day, with the ask that graphics get drastically revamped, I realize it can't be an instant thing, but it could inspire them to begin the project, create a teaser for that product as a "we hear you".
Blizzard can't get to servers not hosted in US. Turtle is hosted in Russia, so they just can't. Ascension I don't know the details, but probably similar story.
its a good start and the way is long but doable.
keep it up,
one day wow should be in unreal engine 5 or another modern engine.
It simply needs better textures to map onto the buildings, etc.
😂 "hey stuck on me" had me dying
WoW in unreal engine 5 still happen with same art style. Look at palia for example. it was built in unreal 5 and still has that nice cartoony feel like wow has now
awesome
major problem is the poly count. loot at those trees.... they literally has 3 polygons.
True but this is still about a year or so away so im sure theyll fix that issue by release
@@garycannon4644I mean you can literally see the disclaimer in the video the textures and models will be updated to match it.
And we already have legion graphics update mod for private servers.
"minor technical incidents, constant audio issues" ftfy
I think they need to get the lighting from the game sun toned down. It seems to wash out the colors more for most textures, the colors are already washed out from the port change.
Yeah it will cost pretty penny to make a swap.
You guys cant read or what? Is not final version lol
Still prefer modern wow graphics...cartoonish look is amazing and will get bnetter each exp
Modern wow graphics leans towards same PBR , since they added RTX and stuff like that.
Yeah people don't understand that the style is what makes WoW last time so so much better. Like comparing to FFXIV which looks so much more dated because of the "more realistic" graphics look.
@@ShadowsOfThePast Classic wow actually leans more towards realism than modern wow , modern wow pipeline is all PBR stylized with ultramorphed buildings and stuff like that
@@Integroabysal Well to my untrained eyes it looks pretty similar of a "style". Ofc the newer expansions made tweaks so that many things look better for example character models..water.. lighting trees or other textures etc. For me the "feel" of WoW has been quite consistent.
@@ShadowsOfThePast yes they look better indeed , but if classic was somewhere between stylized and realistic , like right in the middle , modern wow past cata straight up became stylized and they started to double down on that :) im not saying is bad , to be honest wow engine is doing a great job at stylized graphics cause if we take the models from wow and import them to unreal with same settings and stuff like that they look like crap :D
And I thought RuneScape “in unreal” was funky looking.
Don't Bad
Post Version
To bad blizzard isn’t a big company capable of updating their game … just ….. sigh
*If Microsoft want to increase their Game Pass, why have they not got an Xbox version of Wow in development?*
*It will definitely increase Game pass and Wow subs, and instead of subbing to wow, it could be part of the Game Pass model, or have a wow only subscription*
*Either way it'll be a win for them and increased revenue*
Razor Hill and Crossroads is the only thing that looks really good.
Too much of it is too dark.
Not final version
It sucks all the charm out of WoW's graphics and just makes the models and textures look very janky. Playing WoW is like walking around in a Thomas Kinkade painting.
Yall share my exact sentiments. Sure it cool, but it looks wrong, Ascension is still the best server.
DONT POST BAD VERS
World of moistcraft
Bad version is best version
ithinkitlooksreallynice!
I'd rather have the art style than more realistic
Totally agree.
Dont Post the BAD one yo!
Am i the only one who really doesn't care for that? WoW's problem was never its graphics.
The only thing switching it to UE5 would do is prevent a significant amount of people from playing it, especially in poorer parts of the world.
Doubt that many brasilians would care to dump 4 months' worth of salary into a Starforge system just to play WoW, for example.
I also think WoW is very fine and has been improving graphically almost every expansion anyway. Going to a more "realistic" style would kill what makes WoW the game it is. It would also make it feel more outdated sooner because it's a 20 year old game and it looks amazingly good still because of the art style and it wouldn't look so good if they had a more realistic look.
People think slapping Unreal onto everything makes things cool... it doesn't. It looks nice as a fan art piece and some shots look cool, and I know its a pirate server so who cares, but adding it to the game robs WoW of its artistic design. I don't want to play WoW in a style that isn't WoW. Realism and better graphics don't a good game make. I did like the more darker night bits though, Wish Blizzard would make nights more darker at night, but the lightening and the smoother textures all look a bit off
Turtle will have a legacy mode that is gonna be 1 to 1 copy of the old look :) its not about the graphics, they are just a bonus for those who want to have them they did this so they have a easier time to mod the game in the vanilla+ way and dont need to strugle with the 1.1.2 client spaghetti code that they are using now
I am like number 99
Someone posted the bad version.
Of all the vers, this ones the bad
hmmm me thinks something mighta gone wrong here
There's no way 💀
Haha, love the title
its way to dark to play with a normal zoomed out character.
Play it like an RPG, not a tabletop game.
@@CosmicCleric thats okay for questing only
🎉bad vers🎉
Don't post the bad version guys
why go to UE5 only to make it a idiotic as wow looks now?
the entire point of wanting UE5 is so it DOES NOT look like wow from 20 years ago LOL.. jeez
and dont come at me with "art style" most of the art in wow is / was done because they didnt have a choice haha.
wow is the only game that stayed in the past and calls it an art style.. cheapo mofos.
when they make the game that LOOKS like it was made this side of decade ill bother playing it again.
This is great i love it (the video not twow, lol)
It looks so shit.
I am just gonna say this here and now: eff off with the pserver hate. I know that you *have* to say it here since this is your job--I get it. The thing is tho, I hope Blizzard bans me for not hating on pServers. Some of them are 100% shovelware garbage cash shop scams and should be taken off the platform. Others tho, they are so far different from Blizzards game that they should and probably are intentionally left alone. Pservers are a place for players who enjoyed WoW back in the day, but no longer can due to Blizzard's ignorance or personal desires. Over the past several years, we have already seen how untrustworthy Blizzard is and it's only been up to today that they are only *sorta* listening to the community and making changes where there needs to be. Just leave them alone, let Blizzard deal with them, if you want to protect your subscription then just don't talk about them, but don't hate on them.
Nice title bozo
DONT POST BAD VERS