BATHROOM PROBLEM… What NOT to do when renovating a BATHROOM
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- Bathroom problem…. What not to do when fitting a new bathroom or renovating a bathroom as it will cause big problems in the future if ever there is an issue.
I see this so many times when people haven’t made access to fittings etc…. There is only 1 outcome and it’s major works and a problem that could of been avoided.
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Shorter video this Sunday as I’ve had some things going on this week personally…. Thanks for watching as always🙌🏼🙌🏼
Hope all is well mate.
u OK hope so if not then dw about the videos mate
Best wishes. Hope it's as sortable as a plumbing problem. x
It’s a bung not a cap and it’s designed to be pushed up inside of the spigot not into the body of the trap.
Then it’s not visable to the customer when they want to connect an appliance which then causes a flooded kitchen…. People do it different and I was showing my way as it’s better for people to see it’s capped off..👍🏼
No name, Correct, as explained in the instructions for those who bother to read them 😉
As an aside: @ 0.22 loads of tape around the isolators threads - UGH. That says it was done by a bodger / builder not a plumber! If the comp. joint is done properly, a tiny smear of sealant on the OLIVE not the threads plus a drop of silicone oil on the threads will do just fine.
It’s not the other people it is manufacturers that put those blue nozzle plugs inside and those are never removed by installers! But my favourite job was when I’ve found w/m waste pipe connected to the hot water tap valve. Luckilly tap was not open. 😂
Trusting a tradesmen is like a good dentist, once you get trust from the client or site contact that 60% of the job done, never take the smeg i say, just do your job to your best ability and if your wrong hold your hands up as there is nothing wrong with that as were only human, if then there's is a client or site contact issue you know they got an issue that's when you bin them off as you will never win..
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I love that you do all of this great plumbing 1 handed! Imagine how good you’d be if you used both hands! 😂
Hahaha…… I will have to give it a go😉
Should be against the law to box stuff in!!!
My worst experience was a bath tap.I had to to take 6 bricks and 2 blocks out the outside wall to change a tap at the back centre of a bath once, no other way in! Up a ladder changing a bath tap from outside ! well planed out like boxing stuff in , mental plumbing 🪠 !!!!
Love ya bucket 🪣
Unreal some designs ain’t they buddy….
Hi Mark. Never use those that come with the kitchen always pain. Like you I leave it the bung on the outside so you can see it. Another bathroom job with no access. Bit of a demo job for you first. Looks good when finished but no access. Before I do the job always think how can someone get to it . Good video Mark. 👍
Thanks buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Ah.. for my bath I made tile-panels from plywood sheets with cementboard screwed on then tiled onto. Snap-in 15mm pipe clips screwed on back which clip onto copper tubes that are secured to the battens with latched clips. Heavy but solid & accessible in seconds
That’s what we will be doing on this
Brilliant tip reg the plug on the trap going on the outside. I’ve got both the folding bucket and the tap kit which my Mrs bought for my birthday last year after seeing it on your channel. One thing though about the bucket don’t fill it too full or it will collapse as it happened to me while cleaning out an F&E tank but apart from that they’re a great job. Keep up the good work mate.
👍🏼👍🏼 nice one buddy
I too have had customers who insist on tiling the bath panel. I always warn them about if there is a problem. The other big disaster is when the taps are in the SIDE of the bath against the wall. Look great but I warn them that to replace the tap will need the bath taking out!!
And when they want the taps at the back 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The tool set is a god send, works great on toilets and sinks and baths
Great bit of kit
For built in cisterns attach the final tile with sealant rather than tile adhesive! Makes it much easier to remove for maintenance, won’t break and still looks clean and tidy. Same for baths - especially whirlpool ones!
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We cement board then cut out an access hatch just under the size of a single tile. Tiler then tiles the cement board when then sit it in place and use same colour silicone to fill in the grout joints while packed in place then return to remove spacers and fill in small bits of silicone so if ever needs access your just cut silicone and the section of panel is removable and you never know. No chrome screws heads etc looks banging. Love the vid
Exactly what I’m hoping we can do with this when my tiler gets to it
@@MJTiffPlumbing always looks so much better then all the other options especially on the mid to high end bathrooms. Everyone’s so busy any small job like this having to pull my tiler off my jobs really mess’ things up😂
@@MJTiffPlumbing always looks so much better then all the other options especially on the mid to high end bathrooms. Everyone’s so busy any small job like this having to pull my tiler off my jobs really mess’ things up😂
the clue is in the word "bung" ,it's designed to obstruct flow, if it was designed to contain flow it would be called a "cap" hence it's not designed to contain flow by the amazing power of friction, the bung goes in the pipe unless you have some data that tells you that the potential flow cannot overcome the superior bit of flappy rubber over the end of the pipe
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Overflow popped off on our bath and flooded the kitchen below. I believe it was the pressure of the water so the plumber put a hose clip around it, he also said he’ll be doing that for all of his installs going forward! Good video thanks
Yep this one is glued so isn’t going anywhere 👍🏼👍🏼
The blank goes into the spigot not the trap body. If you put the blank on you finger and then insert it into the spigot you get it in the right way. If you put them on the end they end up splitting 👍🏻
They CAN go into the spigot, but I’ve been to 3 houses with flooded kitchens after people have moved into house that have been blanked off like that and the customers didn’t know (as you can’t see it) and connected the WM…. Which when emptied caused the flood.
As said I always put them visable so you can see them… never had one split in 20+ years…
But like I said each to there own…. We all do things different👍🏼👍🏼
Hope all is well with everything, tiled bath panels look great like you say but access afterwards can be a right pain, i made a few tiles removable on mine with magnets fixed into the timber frame under the bath i picture framed hardie board with some steel c channel which sticks to the magnets with the tiles fixed to this then siliconed instead of grouting where these are, if need access after just cut silicone and pop the tiles off prob an easier way to do it put couldnt think of anything else haha
That’s what we will be doing with this I think
What about the taps against the wall? I always warn the customer it will mean the bath has to come out to replace the taps!!
Having moved to aus a few years back. And renovated a few houses along the way. It's pretty dam common for bath tubs to be tiled in for some reason.
Crazy isn’t it without an access
@@MJTiffPlumbing yeah, I asked a plumber mate. He wasn't sure why it was done like that.
The also do something else strange. Wet rooms, like toilets, laundries are all raised floors. With a drain in the middle. The drain makes sense. The floor being higher does not.
Hello again mate,
Gone and got another better job from after the comment yesterday 🤣, bloody social housing - sick of coming home smelling like the mens toilet in the local pub.
Another top video thank you!.
Hahhaah….. gutted mate🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I'm planning on tiling the bath panel when I fit a new bathroom later this year, but I'm going to use rare earth magnets to hold it in place so that it will be fully removable to allow access to the pipework 🤔
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Outside always... visible then. Also they do an SK1A with 2 appliance inlets
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I'd have tightened the tap before fitting the sink trap. Have more space that way. Good video.
Not a problem with the Tapex Kit😉
There's the contrast between the two jobs: capping the spike visibly is plumbing for the future, whereas installing a bathroom where you need to be a stonemason to do a simple fix is very much not. With a bit of luck, concealed plumbing will go the way of avocado bathroom suites and just fall out of fashion one day soon.
So true 🤣👍🏼👍🏼
Jubilee clip would have been a good idea on the bath overflow
Glued on mate……
you deserve the sub man, good quality content showing me what i need to do right.
Thanks buddy…. Appreciate it and glad you like my content 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Dishwasher hose needs looping up higher ...water will drain straight into it ...
Tested and it’s all perfectly fine buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Good Video Mark,
Make a big difference when you have the right tools for the job,
We are 3 weeks after the van clean,
So far 2 possible items that you needed,
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Hahahahaha 2 down, how many more to go
The old pipe work is some wot clean looks New 🆕
Yes Mark that's exactly why i always bung it on the outside 👍And i've just started using them collapsable buckets after seeing them on another channel......Think it was SmartPipe
Yep always so you can see them👍🏼👍🏼
Always a joy to work on a bathroom installed by a builder not a plumber!!!!! 🤬🤣
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Mate , gliter heating, done a video on this, and it pissed me off because he said put it down the hole , but the bloody amount of floods I've been to because of that. So yes, on the top where it can be seen lol
Yep I’ve been to plenty of issues when people have put the bung inside….
Never thought about the bung going on the inside or outside. Outside does seem the wiser option for the future
Yep, some people do put it inside for some reason🤷🏼♂️
@@MJTiffPlumbing The reason being that is the way the fitting has been designed, the plug fits inside.
The one handed plumber 👍
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I never use kitchen sink waste kits, they take up to much space, not that 2 traps is that much better but it doesn't protrude into the bottom part of cupboard and waste is at the back so you can get a shelf in
Yep I know what you mean mate…. Take up so much room
Hmm where to put the bung indeed, I don't use those connectors but tend to put the cut in one's after the trap so you don't get the smells in the sink coming mostly from the washing machine hose
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Nice little video mate. Your right that tapex kit is fantastic.
Thanks buddy
As a general rule, if you know before you start that the tap is loose then fix the tap with all that waste removed rather than fill the sink unit up with waste pipes then attempt to access the tap.
Hi Mark
What about when that bath trap gets blocked up they don’t have a prayer of getting into it jobs like that are just a real pain I always advise against doing this it’s to much trouble to maintain
Yep removable panel going back here
Access is everything Mark. We’ve all been there. Nightmare! 😱
Certainly was
Nice vid mate, simple but effective. As I say fitter myself, first time I tackled a leak under my own kitchen sink (stress to the limits, ok now a days) if I'd of saw something like that first time around, would of made the job whole lot easier and stress free 👍
Thanks buddy
Recently had a new kitchen/utility fitted, plumber left the bung inside the fitting with the spike still connected on top. Took me an hour of faffing to work out why the washing machine wouldn't drain! Kept thinking the pipe must be kinked 🤦
Yep…. Happens when people do it like that, complete pain
Great video. Deffo real world plumbing there. Keep the good work coming 👍👍
Thanks buddy👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks Mark, I've just ordered one of those buckets. I can see it being great for drain downs and swapping rads.
Nice one buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
Hey mate what are they called?
Sik Mark as always. Keep going I'm still learning! Just passed my science processes and principals. Going to take my water regulations test next and 4 other tests. Thank you for all your videos.
No worries mate 👍🏼👍🏼
It’s about common sense ,making sure there is access & keeping things neat & less complicated as possible . I am a joiner & back in the day did a pre apprentice course at 15 - 16 years of age at building dept at tech college . The course consisted of 4 trades plus building science ,history of building & all the usual subjects . Most plumbers these days can’t even do a wiped joint from lead to copper or form & dress a stop end outlet ,from a single sheet of lead . I have seen some right nightmare plumbing that resembled an oil refinery in my time ,since the introduction of plastic ,pipe & fittings ,things have got even worse ,the game is full of chancers . I am glad I have now retired & don’t have to sort their F ups before I can get around to my own trade .
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Another great video Mark. Just found that flexible bucket on Amazon £9.99 it's a
KAHEIGN Folding Water Bucket, 12L Portable Collapsible Bucket Camping. Hope that's the one. Keep the vids coming pal. I luv em. So informative. Cheers 👍
That’s the one….. proper handy things👍🏼👍🏼
Tightening that kitchen tap would have been easier without the waste fitted 🤣
Wasn’t an issue with the right tools…. Betrays Tapex Kit is perfect for that
Hi Mark, the under the sink job looked better when you had sorted it.
Yep as we know concealed cisterns, basins and tiled bath panels etc are a nightmare
because eventually they will leak or need maintenance, guaranteed.
Great film, as always take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
Always have an access point…. Always always always
@@MJTiffPlumbing yeah, always plan for removable panels, I used "button fix" to secure the removable tiled panel behind my BTW toilet to allow access to the concealed cistern, I find them better than magnets
Hey Mark, the McAlpine SK1A has 2 spigots on it, I’ve use quite a few. Always picked them up from Toolstation for £20. Always good to help out a fellow plumber.
Yep but Sod’s Law I only had the SK1 on the van🫣🫣
Great video Mark as always your content is on point and very useful.
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
I would have put that waste pipe to the new “lower” one so the flexi waste pipe was not so stressed..
Just saying as an ex engineer and not a plumber.
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Straight forward video tonight. Great job. I got those amazon bags, and they got holes in them in no time, don't roll them up too often. I actually came across 30L bag in a pound shop for £3 and it's brilliant. I can't find them anymore now. I can't remember where I got it.🤷🤦
Will keep my eye out at Poundland👍🏼👍🏼
@M J Tiff Plumbing it was an aroundapound in northern ireland but not everyone has them. Have a good week.
Great vid built in a nightmare.👍👍👍😎😎😎
Tell me about it🤣🤦🏻♂️
great content as always mark hope your keeping well
Thanks Mike, I’m well buddy…. Hope your good👍🏼👍🏼
Customers don't have to mess up with plumbing! Mc alpine says the blue plug is to be put inside, I was putting it like you for years.
Seen so many floods with the bung going internal… people don’t know it’s there and the washing machine floods the kitchen. Outside for me👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing Then they are not trained or don't know what they are doing.
@@andrewkenny4633 you wouldn't expect to need training to connect a washing machine to a drain though would you? Better if they just supplied a blanking cap instead of the bung or supplied the spout blind, to be cut to suit by the customer (and no, I've never flooded my kitchen 😅).
Alternatively one could cable tie a warning label saying "BLOCKED INSIDE" onto it after bunging it up.
nice neat work
Thanks mate
Well done mark hope your having a great weekend brother
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark, I've got one of those flexible buckets too, very handy indeed 👍
😉👍🏼 great ain’t they
Whats it called?
Great vids - catching up with them all. What size is the orange bucket?
Thanks mate…. The foldable bucket is 12L
Got the exact same issue on a sunken tiled in bath coming up 🤣
Nightmare mate
I’ve just got one of those Nerrad tap kits Mark. Looking forward to my first tap job now. 😜
You will wonder how you worked without one👍🏼👍🏼
Hello Mark, wondered why those 2 overflows were plugged then saw the bowls didn’t have an overflow. That’s weird.
Yep strange isn’t it….
I bought one of the buckets following your van video the other week, proper handy so bought the Dad and father in law one too lol. Enjoyed this one Mark, can’t beat the jobbing jobs and good work 👌🏻
Thanks mate, great little buckets ain’t they
Great video as always Mark!
Thanks as always mate👍🏼👍🏼
thinking of changing the transit to a hightop
That bucket is a great idea, on Amazon there are 2 sizes 12 litre and 20 litre, which one did you go for?
This is the 12L one mate 👍🏼👍🏼
What an odd place for an electrical socket
Good video mark. Lucky the overflow wasn’t on the other side of that bath 😂
Thanks mate…. And that’s exactly what I said to the customer….
@@MJTiffPlumbing tiles is bad enough but there’s always a silver lining ey, could have been much worse
I always wonder who designed baths where the taps and wastes are on the wall side so you have to remove the bath to get to them.
Crazy isn’t it
Which mad man thought it would be a good idea to stick electric sockets that far down where a serious leak could potentially happen?
I assume your on about the sockets under the sink unit…. No regs as far as I’m aware and it’s done on nearly all new builds but they are always fitted higher up…
Here’s a question bugged me for ages, how does the dishwasher/ washing machine drain with the pipes going up ?
It’s pumped👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark, I'm new to your channel and found you off the moaning customer video which was about right. I work as a handyman/maintenance at 2 care homes for a company of which 99% of the staff are women and seem to be experts in most fields of maintenance and repair. I love that folding bucket and am also going to have a look at at that tap spanner set. Keep up the good work. New subscriber here!!
Welcome aboard buddy, glad you’ve found the channel and hope you enjoy the content.
The bucket is a lifesaver at times, as is the Tap Spanner kit…. Expensive but worth every penny
@@MJTiffPlumbing it just means now I've got alot of your stuff to binge watch, 👍. But everyday is a school day so looking forward to it.
Oh you’ve got loads to get through buddy😉
Good mate but who put ptfe on the nut thread on hot and cold valves ! That's a big no there 😳
Some people do it to be double sure….. as long as it don’t leak buddy
@@MJTiffPlumbing been a heating engineer for 40 years plus, sorry mate but it's bad practice . It's a mechanical fitting the nut compress the olive and any thing on the thread could inhibit the nut to go fully home . By all means ptfe on the olive . Not having a go here but it's just not done 😕
No offence taken as I didn’t do it🤷🏼♂️…….
I’ve been a plumbing and heating engineer for 27years, ive seen it done before and not seen a problem with it. I personally don’t do it but each to there own….
@MJTiffPlumbing I am in the heating and plumbing industry 56 years and it is a waste of time putting PTFE tape on the treads of a compression fitting it will not stop a leak as the joint is made between the pipe scampered edge of the fittingand compression ring
Like I said…… I don’t do it either…🤣🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Another great video again mate. 👍
Thanks buddy 👍🏼
£200 worth of making good to glue up an overflow, makes no sense to tile everything in with no access. At some point you will be ripping that toilet out to replace a leaking flush pipe seal.
Indeed buddy….. it’s all about the forward planning with access panels
Hello Mark, great video as always. Keep up the real world plumbing.
Just seen the double power socket .......whats your view on power sockets under sinks where there is a high potential of water leaks?
Thanks mate….. 👍🏼👍🏼
They are fitted under sinks more and more now and as far as I’m aware it’s not an issue…
As long as there is RCD protection it shouldn't be a problem but I'm not a fan of them
Hi Mark, just a question about what is the best company to approach for an apprenticeship in plumbing. I can not find apprenticeships anywhere 😒
Speak to your local college and they should point you in the right direction
@@MJTiffPlumbing cheers mate, sorry for late reply
Cheers Bro,
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I bung them wastes the same for exactly the same reason.
I want to be able to see it’s been bungee👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing To be honest i actually thought the way you and I do it was the way it should be and the only way the bung went on, until I saw another plumber putting it into the other part and then screwing the other piece onto the trap. I remember thinking that could end up with a problem as who apart from him would know there's a bung in it. So i still continue to do it our way.
Honestly….. I thought exactly the same till I spotted someone doing it aswell🤣🤣 I was lick “No Way!!!”
@@MJTiffPlumbing That's exactly I what thought....All these years and never knew you could even do it that way.
It's ok bunging it that way but when the customer knocks it off it's a different story ...😂
what were the grey pipes from? I hope those sockets are more than 3m from a bath or shower or has the 3m rule changed. Personally a bathroom is a place where wet hands can touch the switch and I'd avoid a socket like those in the bathroom. I have seen a fuse box in a bathroom. That was scary
I haven’t fitted the sockets mate….. this is a plumbing channel🤣🤣😉😉…..
I know what you mean though….. sometimes you see some sockets where you hope they wouldn’t be
@@MJTiffPlumbing I appreciate you do plumbing not electrics but my comments at least make other aware. Sorry if you thought was blaming you for the sockets.
Good vid as always Mark. Maybe include ares you cover in your intro, might get you some more jobs.👍
The appliances hoses under sinks do you ever jubille clip them? I've always done it on my own hoses probably overkill, just curious what others do.
Got my level 2 sorted start on Wednesday evening 😁
Thanks buddy….. these were very very tight, so all is good but I have used clips before….
Good luck with your L2 mate
Yeah I always jubilee clip too, have done for years, know it will never pop off then....
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Thanks Mark 😊
Your welcome mate
BATHROOM PROBLEM… What NOT to do when renovating a BATHROOM - ANSWER IS LEAVE ACCESS. DON'T TILE OVER EVERYTHING
Exactly
save the ole knees
Kneepads for the win
@@MJTiffPlumbing snickers floor layers from day 1
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Evening Wayne…. Hope all is well my friend
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Another concealed bathroom causing problems
Yep…. Complete pain in the arse mate