Studio Vs. Home Studio Shootout!
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- I have often wondered if my mixes would sound different if I took them to a proper recording studio and ran the tracks through a console! Today I get to find out! Huge thanks to Studio Litho for the hospitality! Huge thanks to Dead American for letting me use their song!
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0:13 - Intro
0:46 - Disclosure
1:00 - What Are We Doing?
2:20 - Studio Litho
2:53 - Meyer Sound Monitors
3:48 - Going To The Studio
7:00 - At The Console
18:00 - Listening Back
23:19 - Wrap Up
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For those commenting on the snare being too loud, normally I have a bit more compression on the 2Bus but also this lets the snare poke for Mastering. Go listen to the actual released track😊
the master almost disappears the snare... and it seems to me that they cut a lot of those rich mid-high frequencies that were in the mix
It sounds perfect - Jason Lackie said it, "It's a good mix!"
Such a cool video, Fluff! Being able to hear the A/B comparison was so interesting, I didn't expect the console to have such noticable saturation and EQ differences
API sounds awesome. Incredible
Eight thousand dollar speakers on my three hundred dollar laptop would be badass. 😂
I like now the 70's API makes the top end just that tad bit wider. Really adds an extra level of dynamics and character to me.
The beefiness is not even close , the depth.
Really cool video Fluff. The API adds enough to make a very noticeable difference in a good way. Killer mix. Sounds incredible.
Another great video. Thanks fluff
Moral of the story is, "Look what can be done at home!!!" I can tell you in our medium studio her, we noticed a difference in the spread being more pronounced on the API as compared to the home mix. HOWEVER that difference was noticed IN A FREAKING STUDIO! As well at the bass being a little hotter in the home mix. However again, ask me if we noticed any difference at all in our car??? Thats right, no. Imperceptible. Great job with your mix. You should be proud.
What an amazing video! Thank you Fluff!!
I am here for this 1000% let it begin!!!
Yeah the sauce of that API did it for me. Killer mix man, I need to go listen to this track but those Meyers paired with a Trinnov would be absolute butter. That’s a video I’d love to see should you be able to make that happen!
yeah man the low-mid fullness of the API sounds so good, also a bit smoother on the top end through my system
Great video Fluff
I recorded walk the moon's first album along with 16 other national projects in my basement studio over the last 20 years. There's is no such thing as a "real studio" as I have turned down every opportunity to work in one so I could be in full control myself.
Records are made by quality people not by studios.
Rob zombies quality lol
Your'b mom went to a semi-quality college?!
Lots of Anberlin in this song. Killer track!
Considering everything both sounded pretty similar, but that silky top end on the Api is just wonderful. I would love to see a video on room correction! 24:45.
sounded amazing to me, checked out Dead American and they have a new fan.
Would love to see you explain the guitar recording and mixing the main, panned and filler guitars, the tones used and why and so on... Guitars sounded killer bitey and mean but still balanced and full. From a production POV how different guitar layers come in and out with different tones and panning.... chef kiss to you sir... MMaaaaa!
Great video. How well were the stems recorded in the first place? A very high resolution systems with a detailed full range tightly recorded master will allow a lot more good decisions to be made. Source first
Nice video Fluff
Would love to watch a video about room quality/acoustics. Also that console is gorgeous - watching you guys solo out the tracks with the lights activating engaged my tactile monkey brain. 😂
Going to rewatch and grab my headphones instead of taking in all the details through my busted iPhone speaker filled with pocket lint.
The midrange in the non-api mix is a bit less defined and it suffers for it. The API mix has so much depth, clarity, and a much more defined stereo image. Very cool. Thanks for the video!
Even though my cheep head phones lack enough detail to make any real world decisions on a mix not to mention the you tube sound there was a real decerning element of body and clean density on the api mix! Vocals breathe and there are audible harmonic layers present wear as the information just translates to odd order static bundles trying to fill the space that the chips just can't read properly. Just my opinion Ofcorse!
Low end is more present, warmer and punchier on the API. But thats not a surprise. Good mixes regardless.
It seems like that you like snare so much
Sounds good. I'm just trying to learn to mix my drums. Got audix mics. Scarlett interface and Yamaha hs8 monitors with a sub. Not really interested in sample replacing. If anyone has some chain go to or any tips. Toms sound pretty muffled no matter the mic placement. All I've got in the chain is eq7 then compression. I do have the silencer plugin. But don't know where to put it in the chain.
The difference is in the low end and the aggressiveness of the mid-highs... and you can still feel the volume difference a little
Well at least we didn’t hear too much comparing two different monitors in 2 different rooms. Both companies make straight up great monitors. The 8331 is far different design than the Meyer. Once back home the differences are even audible on my phone speaker. Your 8331 is doing you justice.
Deftones!! one of my best friends just left the band. Sergio Vega also very good friends with Chino!!
In a video about the TC Helicon voice live in 2017 you are playing a guitar on the Mac screen at the end of the video - what is that guitar - has a firebird inspired shape - love it
Just as a point of comparison have you considered running your stems though the api buss in Luna or a similar api channel plugin to see if it adds a similar vibe to the actual console? Just a thought. Love the channel. Keep the good stuff coming.
Record the Strumints'@ home and when cut ting or ready to cut vocals goto the bigger studio ?
Maybe yes you can correct with new Arc 4
It will be interesting to see what you find out. It seems obvious that a pro studio should have a great engineer who uses the space and equipment every day. That seems like it would be the most important thing. I have the best equipment I could buy. U67's, U47's, Burl converters, Shelford channels, BAE 1073, API channel strips, RME 3 interface, from cables to speakers everything is as good or better than a lot of studios. I just don't have all the skills. I need to hire a pro engineer to help me at my home studio. They won't know my room or equipment, but they probably can still improve my recording a lot. Someday my skills will be good, but I spend a lot of time practicing all my instruments and I don't even get as much time as I want to play. It's a balance of trying to do everything that is hard. I just have realized I will need to hire help but do as much as I can. I love all the cool fancy gear that I sacrificed to get. Right now, they are like a fun toys that I am still getting to know. It does not make my recording great. I need to focus on the performance skills, and song writing then the process of recording comes second. knowing how to get the best out of your gear, room and having experience is what counts for the recording process. As long as it is fun and I'm learning, I will keep using my home studio.
Although my equipment isn't all top shelf, I definitely relate to your comment.
I have such a hard time finding the time and energy to practice piano, guitar, bass, drums, vocals, writing lyrics and recording/ production.
And one of the problems that occurs is that sometimes I'll go through a phase where I'm spending more time on production. But then I don't feel like my playing is deserving of being recorded or up to the standards that I am set for myself and so you end up going back to practicing. But I'll also say that when you are executing your performance to the standards that you have for yourself, you don't need to do nearly as much as far as production goes .
I like the Fluff print... the console did not hold up against your original mix. The top end of the API is annoying to me
The snare is to hot
No it’s not.
Yosh tis snot
When I hear it in my case, the pmc is perfectly calibrated!😉
If your mix is more center focused, the mix on the API is wider and has better balance.
The mixes both sound about the same otherwise. a little dull for me. you could make the mix more open and mix it more lively.
For me it sticks too tightly in the monitor, it doesn't come out of the monitor in both mixes.
If you want to hear something where you hear what I mean then listen to Avi Kaplan, that stuff comes out of the monitor properly and doesn't stick to the front of the monitor.
Yes, it's a different type of music, but technically it works exactly the same for every style of music, whether pop, rock, matel, punk rock and many others!😉 that it comes out of the monitor and doesn't stick!
Vocals are much more forward on API mix...
It’s hard to assess the effect of the API console because of the C2. It would have been nice to bypass it and use your bus compressor later. There are parts of the API mix where it sounds like it’s hitting the comp too hard with loud vocal peaks. Also, what were the settings on the C2? The C2 sounds way better in dual mono than stereo in my opinion. Did you try driving the inputs of the console to get some saturation?
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I knew that had to be Cove
your Homestudiomix sounds really fine, but the API sounds fuller and comes more towards the listener - yours sounds more hollow and thinner. The magic is in the midrange ! Always ;-)
OK, so it's your Signature Hyperion - how can I get one?
There are some differences, but this shows just how far home studios have come. I mean, does a band necessarily have to go to an expensive studio to get excellent results? No. Good job!
The api mix felt ever so subtlety warmer. The vocals seemed fatter for lack of a better description on the API as well. Your home mix seemed to catch more vocal nuances. But again it's subtle.
The top API sounded much more clear. Like the actual words and the upper mids were just a lot more clear and easier to understand. The homebrew was quite a bit harder to understand the lyrics.. I'm curious if that's the equipment creating a muddiness, or if it just happened to be that way since these both seem to be a quick mix... Or if the genelecs were lying to you? That's odd.
I would say the top end is fine on both, you could tweak either to be about the same. And the low end is muddier but bigger on the homebrew, but I think that's just a matter of adjusting the cutoff on the compressor. I don't think it's a big deal in the mixing stage. That would be fixed in mastering.
The difference in the vocals... That separates the men from the boys, as they say. If you don't have clarity in the topline, there's no fixing that later. That could literally be a whole episode, just figuring out what led to the vocal issue.
That said: If I hadn't heard the api version, I would say the homebrew sounded great. So just use what you have and focus on writing great songs. Great songs get labels. Let the labels worry about the studio fees.
Great video :) That API console made me pee a little....
23:36 I have to respectfully disagree and say my house is way more comfortable than an actual studio. It's my house. It's also free. 😁
Me listening at home with airpods: Sounds like shit
Just kidding, this mix sounds fantastic
At times almost impossible to hear much of a difference. Certainly not 1000s and 1000s of dollars difference. Really well done.
I was going to make critiques about the mix, but I decided to listen to the actual track on Spotify. Perhaps you could add a note in the future at the top of the video about your playback setup in the video being different quality than the actual track available to stream. Your prints in the video sound NOTHING like the actual track. Your mix is very good!! I would assume most people are thinking that your mix is what we can hear in the video, though, in reality, it sounds completely different.
Sounds like saosin
It is Cove Reber singing aka the ex-vocalist of Saosin
@BukanIbuMu well that would make alot of sense, thanks, didn't know he was in a new band
Vxcalismist?
Studios with these giant consoles don’t have the best acoustics… I don’t know why it’s always seemed to sound better
Comfort also could equal procrastination... ha
Damn straight!
those drums are super fake sounding every piece of the kit sounds like its from a different vst
Ok
First thing I caught as well, guitars sound a bit plastic-y too. Overall not bad at all, but noticeable.
🤣 didn't Glenn just talk about doing this a few months ago? Bro.
No idea I don’t watch his videos
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Don't forget to mention the unobtainium monitors! I have no real idea what you are trying to achieve apart from pushing very expensive stuff.
home studios are real studios.
The drums sound like plastic tubs. Hate the mix, to be honest. Bass sounds extremely odd, too. I dislike almost everything about both mixes.
So close. Vocal much better in API. But the rest is 6 of one....
Speakers have break in periods and sound better over time/hours in use. Something to keep in mind
Nope. Some manufacturers want you to “break in” or “burn in” your speakers so that you go over the time limit to return them to the dealer. Also your ears naturally adapt and change the sound of the room the longer you spend in it, making you think something is happening when it’s really not. Burn-in is audiophile snake oil, as usual.
Not very helpful or useful at all really. Not many of us are going to be using 8k$ monitors
You mite make Mooney someday. Brim brimurr
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