The DISGUSTING Scandal of The BURNING SUN! | Rotten Mango Reaction
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The thing is, it’s not that these guys can’t talk to women or have no game, it’s just that they don’t want the interaction to be consensual at all. They get PLEASURE from forcing women into doing things they don’t want to do bc it gives them a sense of power. Sometimes these guys aren’t even raping women for entirely sexual reasons, they just do it for POWER. They like having an ego boost and the feeling of power that comes from the act of sexual assault bc they don’t see women as human beings and feel entitled. They feel like it’s their RIGHT to take that from women. It’s a power dynamic thing, a lot of them are rlly insecure and have fragile egos. They’re just truly evil people
Well said
unfortunately so true
That’s the same reason people like this often are pedophiles, they love how children can’t consent or do much about it 🤢
i don’t even ask myself ‘why did you do that?’ whenever i hear about crimes like this. there is no answer that is good enough. no justification. instead it’s just ‘how dare you do this?’
So unfortunate but true
These people are truly disgusting
This case infuriates me. Especially the reaction from the Korean police. Whenever I watch terribly bad Korean (and Japanese) crimes against women or children, the police 9 times out of 10, NEVER take it seriously and never do anything to prevent anything further from happening. It drives me insane how cases like this still happen but aren't in the public eye. Terrible.
I really don’t get how it’s so common they DON’T take these cases seriously
they developed much faster economically than socially and its really showing. only now is the feminist movement in korea making waves and even then men beat them up on the streets for having short hair because they assume feminism means they're man hating and short hair = feminist.
Cuz they are one of the most misogynistic countries. The men is soo disgusting. I don't know why they get simp from other countries.
The cops get their cut of the proceeds
And this is why I wish had the deathnote
🤞🤞
The fact that whenever I say something about Seungri all I get is "You're letting mass media trick you" is disgusting. How delusional you can be? 🙄
It's crazy how much fans forget that idols are people and fully grown adults who make their own decisions and aren't their babies and completely innocent people
@@leahmoses2641Honestly they have that reaction thanks to sites like AllKpop and Koreaboo. As well as Korean media. They downplayed so much, the details about it. You can't tell me they weren't on the payroll to keep it a light as possible
@@leahmoses2641 This is 100% that something I have to remind myself and others around me that this is the case. Idols are humans and will be just as fucked up as the rest of us are. Not saying that we, the people in the comments disagreeing and disgusted with what happened, are the ones who are "fucked up", by the way. Please do not take that the wrong way.
Let me tell you.. go search about bigbang members warning him, he knew what he was doing. I am a VIP but i can not forgive what he have done for the members especially GD who work so hard to continue doing music and be out of this mess.. after all of that now he uses gd’s name to gain attention.
@@Maryam-sl9lp FAAAAAAACTTTSSS
Before watch Stephanie’s video I had no idea how deep and DISGUSTING all the stuff that went down was😖
nah fr tho, i knew the basics of what happened which were already so gross but throughout that whole video i was like
👁️👄👁️?? because i never knew how truly depraved those people are
@@mcytvibes5637 honestly, as the vid progressed I was like there is no way it could get worse and it kept getting worse 😨. Like how do you even think to do or say the stuff they did. I was baffled at how many people were just doing and saying the most f**ked up shit casually
Me too! I had a general gist of what happened but straight up human trafficking???!! This is sickening
Fr watched Stephanie before here they are 😢 Jesus Christ they are the devil
Stephanie tells not even half of the worse part honestly. There are also "telegram" case believed also related to burning sun and jun joon young with HORRIFIC videos like literal self-torture of women who got force to do so out of scam and blackmail. And the telegram group literally have SO MANY koreans subscriber. I cant even tell you the details it makes me sick.
The live chat was ridiculous i can't believe people still defend these nasty men till this day,get your priority sorted out.
There is an account still defending people literally in the comment in this vid .. sicko
Hyuna dating one of those men now sickening
People defend a nation killing tens of thousands of children why wouldn't they defend this nasty stuff
There is so many horrible people out there it's actually crazy
@@0remy0which nation? There are so many
@@cosas_de_gatosprob israel
Stephanie's story telling is very detailed. I wasn't aware that the scandal was THIS disgusting
agreed!! i was like 15 or 16 when i first heard abt the scandal so i had no clue it was this bad.
Don’t let delulu fans get you confused, he knew all along , he was part of it ,
Literally you can’tbe in a business and not know all that especially for someone who lives to party he would’ve been there drinking with them some nights for sure. That’s one thing I remembered about him when I was also a fan of big bang was he always tried really hard because I did feel he had that inferiority complex like Stephanie said and he liked to party lavishly.
But Those fans are disgusting I bet they never once investigated into the burning sun case properly and just blindly followed their belief of old footage of him being “innocent”. Like celebrities have personas people need to remember celebrities aren’t showing their full personality on camera to be filmed good or bad.
I hope he doesn’t come back to the industry ever again because that’s a danger we don’t need around. I would hope for him to be imprisoned longer but I know that’s too much to ask from the Korean law 🤧
those poor girls I bet some girls are still living to this day with the trauma they experienced maybe not having the power to speak up as well I really wish them well and hope they have at least one person they can trust beside them because the fear they must’ve felt I can’t even begin to imagine.
But unfortunately with the status he had built people will still even after seeing all the evidence and knowing every piece of information available if seungri still denies it I’m telling you they’ll eat it up and continue to say everything’s fake. Despicable behaviour.
Hope one day everyone gets on the same page that these men were trash humans who need to be labelled as who they were a group of RAP*ST’s
Not only was he apart of it... He ran the whole damn thing which makes it 10x worse
He was literally the founder and leader of the whole disgusting thing.
I'm so glad Stephanie covered this, it was hard keeping up with all the articles. Never liked Seungri. On one show Dara (2NE1) said Seungri wanted to set her up with his friend, thankfully CL intervened and didn't let it happen! Looking back after the scandal, he is disgusting.
Especially since CL and Senguri are close in age. She spotted his BS from a mile away. He is only one month older then me and he always gave me the creeps
Some people be saying that the trial wasn’t fair yes the trial wasn’t fair to the victims they should have stay in jail longer than just a few years like 1 to 5 it’s not enough
At least they were in jail, my r*pist got two years on probation, not a single day in jail…
word!!
@@Ateezwooyoungim so sorry to heard that
@@itsjhoss3322 yeah we even had to wait for eight years to get that result, even though they found tons of child p*rn on his computer … but according to the documents, they basically said „since HE had to wait for so long, we can’t put him in jail, since he is now in a new relationship and has a new job…lives a normal life…“ I was like are you f*cking serious?
I still in therapy have a whole bunch of mental health issues, nightmares and I’m still afraid of people and can’t trust nobody… but ofc the main thing is, HIS little life doesn’t get interrupted…
@@Ateezwooyoungi hope that even though the government gave you no justice that you're safe and better now.
We may not know each other but i'm rooting for you and i'm sure you can make everything you wish for possible!❤
the live chat was wild. Got infested with Seungri apologists. Sad that people still defend him.
Guilty
seen one saying “innocent before proven guilty” like stfu??!
I don't like him as a human being, but as a singer... his songs are so good, just my style
I don't support Seungri but agreeing with that statement just really shows black and white mentality. I understand if you're saying that SPECIFICALLY for him. Considering that in the early stage of accussation, it was blatant that he is connected to the bussiness.
Still, that statement has affected many who ARE innocent. Just take an example from the recent death of Inquisitor, a TikTok COD cosplayer who commited suicide from the accusation of rape, and he IS INNOCENT. Please, just stop. @@kanchanahnana
LITERALLY like he was factually convicted what do they even mean by that 🙃 he was proven guilty why are people still defending that POS@@kanchanahnana
You know, being a fan of Big Bang, CNBLUE, FT Island, and JJY, this scandal broke me down to pieces and started resenting being a Kpop fan
Being a fan of all those groups is crazy.
@@shortznig2938 tell me about it
I was already in the Kpop world before Big Bang hit, as I'm an ELF (Super Junior).
I saw how Big Bang was made, how it was supposed to be Hyunseung from B2ST and not this person as the 5th member of Big Bang, when FT Island started and CNBLUE break into the scene with I'm a loner. I was diligently watching JJY in Superstar K, on my TV, how I lashed out at my parents when they changed the channel.
idk... up until this day, I have had a hard time listening to any of their songs in the past.
It's sad and sickening that these are the people I stanned.
honestly same not to mention the jjy after parties run by jjy on their tours my sister and a friend went to a few of them along with other fans if they were specially invited id hate to think what could of happened to any of them acctually makes my blood boil
I really like cnblue because of their sound and creativity as a band. This prick was the 2nd vocalist and his voice was good & soothing...deym!
I was in debate if I would still listen to Big Bang, FT Island and CNBlue. For JJY it was easy. He was just solo so but for the others. I decided to still listen to it because the other bandmembers couldn't help it and where also pissed of at the member. If they ever take them back in the group I'm done but I don't think that will happen.
The thing that I can't wrap my head around is how many people were involved in these disgusting acts and how few actually face any charges at all. TBH this broke, enough people were charged to make netizens happy, then it slipped away out of the media as fast as it could. Let us not forget they probably didn't get a precent of the people involved and this stuff is happening still in another place.
It's bc there were so many high status ppl involved.
Rich (powerful) ppl can get away with almost everything. That's why so many s*xrings, human trafficking etc. are still so big. And especially in Korea woman rights and r*pecrimes are a joke for the government...sadly
Before Stephanie clarified what water meant I actually thought it was drugged water that had been set out and a regular dude was standing near it. I’m too naive for this world lol 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
😅same
Me too😅
No fr 😅😅
Same here
It’s not even about being naive at this point it’s the fact that we ain’t as sick and twisted to even begin to come up with codes for ways we could hurt others
As a woman, it’s nice to see men react to this with disgust. Not that I think most men would do this stuff. Things like this really highlight how women move through the world, aware that we are always vulnerable, always targets.
And ps, you’re right, the stats of women who make false rape accusations are incredibly low, yet we’re treated as if most accusations are false.
It's reassuring to know there are good men out there.
for every 1 false report there are probably 100 unreported actual rapes due to the fear that they will be called liars, and only destroy their own reputation by pressing charges - cus you know, the courts would really hate to ruin the 'bright' future of a young rapist.
I remember watching Grace who is a korean-american rapper, on her youtube channel talking about the time she went to a club owned by an 'A' list korean celeb. She said she went with her fellow female rappers, but since she was feeling uneasy already she wanted to leave early. She said when she entered the club someone gave her a strawberry flavored candy, but once she ate it, she excused herself to her friends and decided to leave early. But then, as she got into the taxi she felt delirious, she said she was dazed and somehow felt 'happy', and it was not a sensation you'd feel when you get drunk.
So she released the video of this experience on her youtube channel right before the Burning Scandal became big. And she didn't even mention the name of the Club or the owner, but if i'm not wrong she qouted as Club B, and mentioned that the owner is from a top kpop-band and an 'A' list celeb.
And then after the Burning Sun Scandal became a hot topic, people were connecting the dot, and commented that it must be Burning Sun. She liked all the top comments that said it is Burning Sun.
But now, i search that video and found out its not there anymore. Her channel is called Grazy Grace, lemme know if you find that video or had seen that video, this is shady as hell.
I remember watching that video too and immediately connecting the BS Scandal with her experience.
I guess she took it off or privated it because of fear of repercussions.
Stephanie also took down her old video about the BS Scandal.
as a VIP (BIGBANG was the reason I got into Kpop) I still cannot understand how people still defend Seungri. I remember in old interviews they would ask him about his lavish parties and they mentioned the bottle girls and me immediately getting the ick, and other BB members talking about how after concerts Seungri would go out with his rich friends instead of hanging out with them, how they jokingly predicted he would go to jail, how T.O.P. said he was worried about him because of him alienatitng himself from them and having a bunch of "yes man" friends, and it breaks my heart to say that when the news came out, I was HORRIFIED but not entirely shocked? due to his image as the "Great Gatsby" of SK, it made sense to me that he was involved in shady business, STILL HORRIFIED, but not very surprised which to me says sooo much, I dropped him so fast, I still like the other BIG BANG Members but unfortunately I could never get as invsted in them as I once was because of what Seungri did.
I am still a fan of the other members but it is a cautious decision. Example, I would not be shocked if GD is guilty of drug use. I will be happy if he is innocent but would not be shocked if he is not. That is not on the same level as Seungri because GD would only be hurting himself if those accusations are true. Just brought up that example because it is the latest in scandals involving BigBang. So I am still a fan but with my eyes open.
@@Katie-bl8xi lol its funny bcz a few days ago someone exposed him to like one of aespa members teenage photo (not childish photo yk what I meant) way before she debuted and vip harrased that acc and suspend them , vip also send BTS to court when BTS had better sales than them in 2015 ,
Fandom is so disgusting that they don't hold their fab accountable at all ,
@@blossom6693 Really!?!???!?
@@Moyemite yes but you can't say a word bcz they are content less and harrased everyone who try to bring that up , they still defend that seungri with weird ass self created thread
@@blossom6693 that's straight up disturbing
Stephanie is the best in this!! I was beyond disgusted when I found out..I mean I knew snippets of the case but not as detailed as stephanie and her team covered it. She and her team did a great job
After watching the second season of the Kdrama Taxi Driver I realized that they covered this story in it and the crazy part is that a LOT of it was accurate to what rlly happened
True based on the story gathered by stephanie.. it was really accurate..
Can you tell me which episode?
@@_agust.challieit’s literally kinda the entire second season
i thought it was crazy and exaggerated when i watched the drama but holy shit turned out the drama tonned it down
@@_agust.challie I want to say episode 10 or 11 of season 2.
Are these comments fr? WHY ARE YOU GUYS STILL DEFENDING THESE A HOLES. There are alot of evidence have already showned.
There’s one acc going on almost every comment saying there’s no wrongdoing
I-
@@immaturiti0526 They're so blindsided to their "oppa" 💀
Two of the guys were in a show called “We got married” and whenever I saw their episodes I was so creeped out. They had such sinister vibes that no one else seemed to notice.
I remember the WGM show. It was a guilty watch for me since I knew how corny and cringe it could be but I was a bit younger and liked the premise of it . I couldn’t watch those two idols tho. And I was a fan of cnblue but it just wasn’t enjoyable for me. I rather watch the painfully awkward but genuine Yonghwa/Seohyun.
Yup he looked so greasy 🤮
Yeah, like after this scandal, a lot of clips went viral about these guys and looking at them with an open eye knowing what they did, it’s disturbing. Like genuinely sickening, like i was a fan of almost all of these guys and their groups and saw a lot of shows with them, looking at them now, it’s very scary especially when they’re guys and quite handsome, they have a female fanbase and i was one of these girls, so seeing them around women was the most creepy things.
Can I just say if I had been the co-owner of that club and it came to light what horrible things were happening there, on top of me being accused of being in on it, I wouldnt be thinking "poor me I feel wronged" I would be OUTRAGED at the club for doing such horrible things and tying my own reputation to it. I would not be so laid back about it, I would be taking prompt actions to get it shut down and remove myself from that business entirely.
Stephanie’s video really changed my mind on seungri. I was in denial for so long as his fan… I’m so disappointed at how disgusting he was…he was the mastermind. He brought all the people together. It was his side businesses doing the money laundering… it was his friends in the chats, it was his ceo friend that ran burning Sun. It was HIS stardom that attracted people to the club. To say he wasn’t guilty is just not seeing the big picture. I’m just so disappointed. I’ve been a Big Bang fan for more than a decade. He has ruined all of my memories. What a vile human being! He had the world but decided to be a disgusting monster instead…
Me too i was so sad he really destroy VIP and BIGBANG
Now I erase him from BIGBANG he is never in BIGBANG
Honestly, I'm just glad you know the truth now. I truly believe so much media for international fans, downplayed all the details of the scandal. So that they got a view that it wasn't that big of a deal. Those media outlets should be ashamed 😑
But still many of his fans adore him eventhough knowing all his wrongdoings.
What exactly did he do wrong?
@@sangisailo2514 You're joking right?....
@@sangisailo2514 That fuckface delivered women to be drugged and raped. You have to be a special kind of dumb bitch to not understand.
@@sangisailo2514did you watch the video at all?
@@sangisailo2514being complicit in a ring of sex trafficking, drugs, corruption, rape, amongst other things. Did you watch the video or just came in here to bark about some pathetic little man
"Why these rich mofos have no game?" because money buys them everything else. Why shouldn't it buy them pompom? But god forbid it be from a woman selling herself....No. If they're gonna buy a woman, they're gonna pay a man for her. And god forbid she consent to it...They don't want a loose woman, they want a woman who won't just give it up.
How do people not feel weird doing this shit?
They're sociopaths.
I remember an interview with BB and the other members alluded to Seungri being into freaky sex stuff, so I was always weary of him...I just didn’t expect it to be so horrible...
Freaky sex is one thing, if its consentual between 2 adults - pop off. This, on the other hand, is monstrous
@@iewutakeagree, I'm on the asexual spectrum and probably would be okay if my partner doing me while I'm asleep as long as they ask me before.
They also mentioned not liking some of his other friends/connections
BIGBANG MEMBER ALREADY TIRED THEY KNOW SEUNGRI IS WEIRD BUT THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS REALLY DOING
Today BBC has released a whole documental with more proof, insights, chats and videos. They have also confirmed goo hara was a key factor for the investigation🙏🏻
Btw the fact all of these men are living their best lives now out of prison while all the victims will forever be broken and traumatized still haunts me
1:06:09 yup! That’s exactly what went down…plus South Korea has a history of not giving out heavy sentences when it comes to crimes pertaining to Sexual Assault and alike. It’s almost comical that people get longer sentences for drug charges than sexual assault
Did I watch this on Stephanie's channel yesterday? Yes. Will I watch it again with your opinions? Also yes.
Same 😅
i literally just finished watching hers and went straight to his vid LOL
ah yes, the Burning Sun scandal where people still forgive -THAT- Kpop idol
Delulu people only
Who?
s****ri?
@@miinacho9196yes
@@violeta8445yes. But not only him. Also jjy and every other singer. Women defending rapists/sa‘s. Unbelievable
I’m honestly so happy you started watching her! She’s the best story teller I’ve ever seen.
She goes far and wide too. She covered the story in my state in the US of a girl throwing her baby in the trash, then all the way to Korea.
💯 agreed 👍 I really hope she covers a case from Australia eventually soon! She is absolutely amazing and goes into full detail.
@@larajayne4934fr
But nowadays her choice of stories are getting boring..., only this one and samsung daughter were interesting
@@mimilili6568 what do you mean? Lately she covered disappearance and murder cases. Kinda insensitive to call them boring.
The comfort women history part was also happened in Indonesia. Basically it happened in most japanese colonies. The worst thing about this is the japanese skip this part of their history in their history book.
I thought the scandal was related to sex work but I was not ready for just how disgusting the truth actually was
That's the crazy thing. All the articles say it's prostitution but these were not sex workers. They were not consensual.
I thought so too. I didn't know it was forced and some girls didn't even know they're one of the victims. 🤬
I went to that club in May 2018 and thank god nothing happened to us but hearing this all it's terrifying. The fact the workers were in on it really makes my trust issues worse 💀
I’m thanking the Lord that you are safe and sound, Thank God alot🙏
Thank goodness you're okay!!
Omgg👀, Thank God u were safe💓
Some people are literally so cheap for idols , shame on them , even tho I don’t want anyone to face any harm , but such people need to face the same things the victims faced in order to admit to the truth. Tank you Seb and Steph for being who you are 🤍
His fans is the nastiest out of all imagine babying your idol when he's literally the owner and in the chat recommending the girls for the guys 💀
I remember this shit, and not only that...I remember that JJY was one of Josh Carrot's (Korean Englishmen) best friends from High School. He was flabbergasted to say the least that one of his best friends is a disgusting mf. Josh had no idea and immediately pulled all the videos he made with JJY from his channel. I can't even imagine how he felt when he found this whole mess out. People like JJY are very good at manipulating and deceiving people, and Josh definitely got deceived.
I was always curious about this. Did Josh responded to the scandal that time? I tried to look for it but nothing came out
From jjy to ollie . . . THE upgrade of all time
@@yeffanyleanne5348 yeah, he responded to the scandal. Not with a video, but on the community tab they have posted a very long note, describing his feelings around this mess. You can tell that Josh was very distraught. I am not sure if It's still on the tab, but he did immediately post this note on the community tab once shit hit the fan.
ABSOLUTLY GOBSMACKED. I never knew this omg what the
this really pissed me off like how can you defend him after all they did. Also, I love how dumb he was and how he didn't delete the message and hopefully, it stopped the ring for good. I hate that they took PLEASURE in forcing women into doing things because they basically taught women are property this is so FUCKED up. this made me feel so sick and almost threw up.
I was a VVIP back in BigBang's prime. And even though I was 12-14 back then, I always felt the ick about Seungri but could never put my finger on it why. I liked his music but I simply didn't like him as a person and his aura. When the Burning Sun scandal came out, I was shocked about the other idols involved, but finding out Seungri was at the center of it, the pieces just clicked into place and the ick I felt about him suddenly made sense. The thing that disgusts me the most about this whole thing was the police corruption and mostly how much supporters he had and STILL somehow has even today. Truly sickening that any person with even a singular brain cell can think to defend this kind of behavior....
The way time froze when this information made its way to international audiences. I’ll never forget how I was floored by everything I was hearing.
What made it worse was the whole situation became worse, people were rallying so hard around these idols. My heart still hurts for all the women these people had the audacity to harm.
Power, greed, and money is a curse to these men. Such a curse.
this case really had me disgusted- very similar to the nth room case in korea which is just as worse as this one- gives me chills knowing that these types of group chats are happening even at this very moment
nth room? Which one is that?
That Andrea girl in your live chat was defending that rapist like her life depended on it. And once he gets out of jail he cheats on multiple women and as a response to those she goes “you’re just jealous he can afford to go to Bali” as if all that money wasnt from his sex trafficking ring. This man actively and proudly in those chats said what he did to those girls but they turn a blind eye and say “he actually wasn’t involved at all 🥺!”. What a joke, don’t listen to them, seungri is a serial rapists along with the other employees, VIPS, affiliates, and investors of that club. It’s disgusting the amount of supporters he has and all the “info” they’re pulling out their ass in the comments to defend him…pathetic.
There’s someone in the comments defending seungri right now, she’s defending under every comment that is calling out the disgusting things seungri did 🥴 I can’t believe someone would even defend such a horrible person even when there is actual proof that seungri did all these horrible things and didn’t care that women were being SA’d/r@ped and being sold without knowing it
I made a video of the summary of the case in Spanish and uhhh what they tell me
the misogyny in korea is actually insane
I honestly get the BIGGEST pit in my stomach when I think about how many more Kpop Idols were and are STILL involved, they just haven’t been caught yet.
Not the crazy fans replying to every comments about their idols being disgusting and calling everyone haters, just because they say the truth.. Y'all are defending a criminal
Just terrible all around, but what also upsets me are all the non Korean people that returned to their countries without any consequences. I looked up the man from Thailand and he is still rich and successful. Burning sun might be gone but I would not be surprised if this stuff is going on some place else, especially since the consequences /punishment was so minimal if at all.
Probably other clubs in Korea or outside doing this, while we think the scandal is over
Just follow the money trail
@@lia.niuu06one of the former employees of burning sun went on bbc and said the club he works at does the same thing
why i can't comfortably listen to big bang anymore. hats off to those who can separate an artist from their work, but birds of a feather and all that jazz and i will never be able to listen to their older music again.
I am in the same situation.
I literally skip his parts , i wish someone would cut his parts and upload it , stupid guy ruining everything for everyone around him
The other members of big bang kinda hinted at this a long time ago. They said it on national television that Seungri has lost his way. He was getting involved in some questionable things. They tried to warn. But nobody listened! It's actually heartbreaking how things played out afterwards.
@@lokithegodofmischief7289I remember that too. Part of why I wasn't surprised. That and how slimy he'd gotten over the years
Now, I wish Light Yagami is real and wrote these evil people names
This is exactly why I’d never live in Korea. There is a video that shows a comparison in the judicial system between USA vs Korea and Korea is just ridiculous. Also, some bartenders are in on it even here in the US. My husband witnessed some guys getting the bartender to drug her (she says she’s waiting for a bf as an excuse, but they don’t care). Police is called with this being witnessed and the guys tell the police that the “gf”got too drunk and bartender agrees. Police officer goes away and girl gets taken away with the guys.
Just saw the live chat. A lot of delusional people there.
Can you believe that seunguri still got a dedicated fanbase
That still blows my mindd
I can't understand those people. If my idols would do something like that, it would break me into pieces because they really helped me. But still, I would turned my back and never looked back. Things like that are not something to forgive. Doesn't matter if it's idol, friend, family member. You do sh*t like this and we're done.
I mean i do. I got to know last year that serial killers had dedicated fanclubs....so not surprised, people are just sick🙃
Imagine being a woman and still defend that mf bruh 💀 like you're such a failure in life
Rapist most of the time don't rape because they can't get women to sleep with them in any other way. It's because they want to feel like they have power over these women. The non ''consensual-ness'' of it is exactly what they want, they don't just want sex. Sometimes it's not even about the sex at all for them. Especially with these celebrities. They have tons of girls lined up that would wanna do it with them consensually.
Thank you for reacting like a normal person.
As to why women agree or align themselves w people like this is bc of self hatred, self misogyny, cultural brainwashing… etc.
I remember when this story came out- I was on my way back from Korea. I remember a friend I made over there tell me not to go to the club bc it was sketchy. 🥺
The fact Seungri STILL has defenders is insane
Seeing you get mad and disgusted at this situation gives me hope. It's crazy how many men defend this behavior or just ignore it.
This case is absolutely disgusting and just gut wrenching
The last part about the VIP just made me want to throw up he tarnished the group and also the fans and i hope all of the sick people involved in this scandal gets what they deserve because the women who were treated like they were nothing didnt deserve it. And i pray the victims get help and live the best they can after what happened to them because they certainly didnt get justice
Bro 💀 I know it's out of topic but , 1 year and 5 months is WILD , even blackpink comeback is longer than that 💀
Yes bro 💀😭
They do this because of their power and not having to worry about consent or the pleasure of their partner, just their own pleasure
Thank you for reacting to this, because before I saw the video I had heard of this scandal but I do not know it’s this DISGUSTING, and after I watched the video, I just hope everyone can see this and see how horrendous people and the industry can be... it’s so f disgusting i can’t believe the perpetrators are let off this lightly.
you never know what ur favorite idol is capable of
And that is the big lesson for all the fans. We truly don’t know these people who portray themselves as angels but behind the scenes they’re a complete mystery
Oh man this whole case was nuts!
Oh wow seb i just know you're gonna be sooo pissed and disgusted watching this
Right! DISGUSTING! And the fact that Seungri only got jailed for 18 months makes me boil. Also, 6 years for others makes me question their law! Where's the damn justice?
44:20 the sad part is they don't even have to have game. They have money. There are the women that will come willingly FOR the money ( and they will be CONSENSUAL freaks, which is totally fine ), and then, they can go anywhere in this world and support the sex work industry if they want. They can buy all the prostitutes in the world. It's more about control.. and poor execution, if you ask me. If they really wanted to do things properly, they would've fed these girls contracts, not drugs.. and I'm just being realistic.
And if their turn on is to have s*x with knocked out people, I am sure they WILL find someone who will willingly knock themselves out for the right amount. Like.. the stupidity of doing this with randoms is just infuriating. Especially when you are so freaking rich.. you can literally buy consent. And even that is better than this ( tho not with much.. but that's another discussion )
This is not even half of everything that happened related to this case. Its WORSE. It got to a point that I can't even watch korean men on tv because I'm too disgusted by the case. It took me a good 3 months to finally move on from Burning Sun, Jun joon young and the Illegal Telegram case of Korea.
Wait what else happened
@@karabo171 But please dont force yourself to read if you arent feeling well. I was close to vomit when I find out what kind of videos they were selling in the group. Its not even assault anymore straight up torture. Even now I wont believe any korean male artist 100%. Even if its my bias, I will just stop watching them if they involve in any assault case.
@@notmeowbutmeow5269 No wonder the birth rate is low. What is wrong with these people, and the fact that Korean men think that feminism as a concept and a movement is worse than this, THE FACT THAT ANY HUMAN BEING THINKS THAT FEMINISM IS WORSE...it's baffling
This whole situation is absolutely insane 😔 I remember having to pause this podcast a few times when I watched Stephanie speak on this. It's absolutely insane how no one helped these girls and guys who looked completely out of it and it was known as being normal in that certain club 😮 even the bouncers, bartenders, security, other club members and so on were in on it. Absolutely disgusting 😢
Here in Australia, usually bartenders won't serve anymore alcohol if they can see that you are clearly intoxicated and give you water, actually make you stand there and drink it in front of them. If you're too intoxicated, the bouncers and security will escort you out and give you some water to help sober you up and ask how you're getting home etc. Not all places but the majority of them.
I remember when I was about 21 and I was incredibly intoxicated walking alone through the Northbridge area. Anyway I lost my money and I remember going into a kebab shop because I was really scared at that point. They noticed that I was distressed and they asked if I was ok, they gave me a water bottle and some chips to sober up. I explained my situation and they called me a taxi and paid for it out of their own money. I will never forget how genuinely amazing and the kindness they showed me that night ❤❤
My heart honestly breaks for these poor young women who had to go through these situations 😔 I couldn't even imagine how traumatic it would of been for them 😢 I really hope they are doing alright and my heart goes out to each of them ❤️🙏
32:24 bc they get off on violating someone. SA has NEVER been an issue of “they’re too horny they can’t control themselves”.
Though I was not a fan of JJY band, I definitely liked junyoung. I also clearly remember that I was watching this Korean show "I can see your voice" and he was a guest on that show and he was so funny (this was one day prior to the Scandal) and the next day I was shocked to see him on news....like even though I was not a FAN fan, I was still shook because I never thought he could have a side like that to him.
What's really sad tho is that, his hardcore fans especially international ones were still defending him and same goes to Seungri, his international fans are the ones still defending him and this really baffles me. Most of the times we portray knetz to be toxic but some international fans are way more toxic and fans defending monsters like them are proof. Atleast none of the knetz are on Seungri/JJY side, if anything Kim is kinda treated like a hero in Korea because all this came to light thanks to him.
The other day one of the kpop news channels was talking about Seungri's two timing Scandal and the comments 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ literally treating him like a God and defending him. The lengths that these people are willing to go just because they like him jeezzzz😂😂
Yeah, Seungri was hard for me to accept. BigBang was the group for me for awhile. It was the group that got me into K Pop. It was the group that entertained me and made me laugh through one of the hardest times in my life. Seungri was never my fave but he WAS a part of BigBang and he had the talent to make me laugh in shows.
This was after TOP’s scandal and it was heart breaking because TOP didn’t need persecution, he needed to pay for breaking the law yes, but he needed some understanding and help because his mental state was not good… TOP got more persecuted by the public then Seungri did. At least in my mind.
I held out with the innocent until proving guilty with Seungri. He has been proved guilty and deserved more the one and a half years. Laws are way to light with crimes towards women in Korea.
@@Katie-bl8xi
That's because he wasn't sentenced to prison for the SA, pimping, drugging, distributing of spycams and trafficking. He was trialed for tax evasion and embezzlement, that's why the 18 months only. He actually had to go 2 years but he appealed, enlisted to military duty and it was lowered to 1,5 years at his new trial.
The whistleblower Kim Sangkyo has been also sentenced to 2 years on probation for SAing 3 women at BS.
He was sued by 3 victims but was only charged in 1 case because there wasn't enough evidence with the other 2 victims.
@@L.-I. those were fake allegations....if you follow the mainstream news outlets they later stated that those were false
i knew about the whole burning sun scandal when it blew up. and when i watched Taxi Driver s2 it was like "oh shit this clubs settings (not the place but the things happening) looks familiar??? omg it's burning sun!!"
Y'all die hard supporting your idols NOT KNOWING THEM IDOLS and/or PEOPLE behind them ARE DEMONS. NO ONE KNOWS WHO'S WHO...everyone is in sheep's clothing BUT IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.
i commented this on stephanies video and i will say it again, the way seungris fans have cleaned up his image is disgusting, until this video i was under the impression that he was only involved in the money laundering and being the mere owner of the place nothing more, by the amount of comments supporting him i actually had a more neutral stance on seungri because so much people were defending him, so i thought "maybe he actually wasnt as in on it as i thought", everything about this is so messed up
i still remember when all these were coming out and his stans were hanging on the last straw .. like when seugri's dad talked, they were like "oh he's innocent see he didn't know 🥺" like-
every single time this shit happened on twt. i remember there were threads proving seungri's "innocence"
30:59 unfortunately it happens way too often, those false accusations, especially with rich people and celebrities. But also teachers f.e. Especially since the „metoo“ movement. It’s really frustrating and disgusting. As a survivor I hate those kind of women just as much as the r*posts themselves. Because of women like that, those who falsely accuse men, real victims have it more difficult to either come forward or taken seriously.
False accusations make up less than 1% of SA cases… a man is literally more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused. Let’s not pretend like that’s the reason victims aren’t taken seriously, you know damn well the system and society doesn’t care about victims. That’s exactly why they always ask “what were you wearing?”
guys i just came to know hyuna is dating yong jaeyun one of the guys involved in the burning sun what do ya'll think about it
I'm disappointed, especially since her friend, Goo Hara was a victim and took her life because of it. And Goo Hara used to date the guy as well
@@baoziday5178 me too bro i just blocked her i feel horrible imo
I withdrawed from consuming any hyuna content tbh. After she broke up w dawn i knew she had bad shit coming i just didn't think it'd be THIS bad
The reason why many South Koreans do not support singers under YG Entertainment
55:15 I'm german and the saying is "den Teufel am Schwanz ziehen", which would get translated to "to pull the devil by the tail"
the BBC just dropped a documentary on that case
welcome to tonight's episode of "why do men"
I always get pissed when fans use the "He'd never do something like this!" As a source of reasoning. Like what tf do you even know? Watch 20 hours worth of videos about them aint shit. What you see on a screen means nothing.
I feel scared to go out now. I mean I just turned 18 this year. This scandal scared me to the guts. I have decided to drink with my family only at home.
yaaas we love a responsible queen. ik people glorify going out but we youngins need to remember we’re young and vulnerable. especially being under the influence. imma stay home thank you very much
good!
stay safe please :)
9 times out of 10 it's the ppl you know like family and friends who are the most dangerous ppl to you. Yes it can be strangers too, but usually it's the ppl you know. Don't be afraid to live your life. Just make sure that safety is at the forefront of your mind no matter what you're doing.
I feel bad that women don’t feel safe doing the most basic thing in the world , but it’s better to do something while feeling safe so I applaud you so much 💛
You can go, but always play safe, of course there can always shit happen, but find people you trust.
You might expect a one off weirdo in the room but an entire network all in one place is just wild.
this case sent chills down my spine fr i couldn't wrap my head around it, i was a new kpop fan when this scandal happened so i didnt understand all and everything but i do now and its sickening
And to this day ppl defend these celebrities who were involved, its just so disgusting
A relative of mine, a minor just got life in prison for sa- of a 3&4 yr old. He deserves prison. My two cents, ppl that can do those type things don't deserve freedom (and I loved this kid) and ppl that cover it up*....make me pray hell is real
Just to add salt to wound hyuna acting like we’re all supposed to be supporting of her current relationship because her boyfriend “was only a witness of chats and did nothing” like bffr you know and hear about all these victims just for you to date PUBLICLY at that someone heavily involved with the case what a fucking joke
I am DISGUSTED that I did not know of CNBLUE's involvement. I actually enjoyed their music so much and recommended it to my friends, but I just looked it up and not only was one member in the rape groupchats, but another had left the group prior to the scandal because he had a case of sexual harassment towards multiple fans. TWO out of FIVE members?? Sounds really unlikely that the others didn't know, I personally can't imagine listening or supporting them going forward
As for Seungri, the fans that still defend him make me SICK to my stomach
who is the other member?
I'm not much of a CNBlue fan, but don't be so harsh, it is proven that the guy who left because of sexual harrassment alligation didn't do any of the sort. He left because he was dating a fan and he actually is married to her now. As for other members, it's completely different friend group. I'm sure other members of the groups these trash people were in didn't know. They went on record saying they were disguisted and denounced them.
Don’t blame the whole group for a former member’s criminal records. That is not fair to CNBLUE and the fans who still support them. Plus, the Yonghwa, Jungshin, and Minhyuk were just as disgusted, hurt, and felt betrayed by what that former member did and they totally have different circle of friends + Yonghwa was in the military at that time when everything was exposed. So don’t you dare drag CNBLUE into all of this. As for Seungri, it was well known by the members and even some fans..talked about how Seungri is all about grandiose and luxurious lifestyle. So much so that they barely even see or hang out with Seungri because he’s always hanging out with his “business friends”. There was also rumors and talks about Seungri’s love life and how much of playboy and apparently a “rough” lover. This reputation about him has been around it’s just some fans turn a blind eye to it or find it as a joke. I did at one point turned a blind eye to it back then..but I noticed his behavior and even him not being as super close to his own group members to the point where they don’t even know what Seungri is up to and this was around 2014-2015 and they were promoting MADE at this time. There were some jokes that made me feel like things were off especially with Seungri. He also did thing weird variety show involving YG entertainment/artists called YG Future Strategy Office and some of the jokes and references was just weird to me. So yeah..eventually the truth will come to the light no matter how you try to cover it up. Seungri literally was selling women in those chats..never mind if he wasn’t in the group chats with those other idols. He was still selling women and even men to business men visiting his club. No way you can defend or say he can redeem himself from that. HE WAS INVOLVED.. don’t be delusional.
This scandal change my prospective about kpop idols like any time i see idols smiling like their innocent and cute i think is there something behind that smile
Not just the training they go through but people change after awhile.
Like how some people are shy when they're younger but gain confidence when they have a YT channel 😅
Things like this pure mysoginy in its wrost forms. When the take action on their mysoginy and actually treat women like objects they decalre them to be. Its frightening and very much alive. Yet a lot of men still want to deny it is
I thought the case aready bad enough but I was wrong. Never thought it could be more disgusting. Thanks for doing reactions on this case. More people should know and be aware of this kind if things . Women and men both. The law aren't reliable anymore. If they can't be punished by law, then we as a society should boycott him and all the people involved at least. Don't let these criminals live happily.
This the kind of content I want to make I love seeing ppl like me speaking on this cuz I thought it was CRAZY after watching Stephanie’s video💀
As a former VIP I had to take a break from kpop for a year thank god I was an army too I kept coming back slowly but still I don't Stan male kpop artists anymore only ggs and bts
I was a fan of most of these people. When the news came out i felt sick. It turned me off of kpop for a while. I was praying my actual biases in kpop is not these level of trash.
copied from an allkpop article in may:"According to insiders allegedly close to Seungri, the former Big Bang member has secured investments for a night club in Cambodia, where he was recently spotted at a birthday bash. He also previously held a fan meeting in the country, even promising to bring G-Dragon on a tour.
He was previously reported to be attending parties in Hong Kong, which led many netizens to speculate he would be opening a night club there. One netizen commented, "He was socializing with the bosses of alcohol distributers and night clubs. It seemed business-related. There were a lot of women with plastic surgery and gold diggers trying to talk to him." "
the mcfker is at it again
If i am out, my hand is ALWAYS on top of my drink if i am talking to someone.
It’s crazy but this wouldn’t have helped you in burning sun , since the employees are in on it, the moment they pour it for you it’s already drugged
41:20 where were her friends? it's so upsetting to me when i hear that friends don't watch each other at clubs. my friends and i always went out to clubs and came back together.
They probably saw her with that man and assumed they went together afterwards for you know what , it’s not uncommon, especially when she was seen talking and having fun with him on the table before, so it’s not like they left her
Thinking about how some of the people that worked at burning sun still work at clubs in gangnam n say that the same thing still happens where they work now
One coincidence, during this time I was watching the music show “I can see your voice” and he was the their 1st? 2nd guest on that show and I instantly fell for his voice. Watching JJY on kpop star, all his music and interviews then a few weeks later this scandal blew up. Can you imagine my shock. 🙃 very very beautiful voice but deym…
You know thr saying ” pearl necklace on a dead pig “ no matter how beautiful the pearl necklace is it’s still stinks and attached to a dead animal 🤢🤢
in korea, the policing system is different than the US. In the US, police officers are expected to have certain quota of cases, this is how they define crime rate.
in korea, they don't want to do extra work. lower crime rate is viewed better. increase of crime just scares people, so they keep it unreported or rather avoided. complete opposite.
This case is so disgusting and the more disgusting things about this case is the preditors didn't get that punishment that they should get