Most definitely as someone said below - - - this is the best video on RUclips regarding this procedure. Excellent commentary and camera work. Outstanding job.
Bought a crown Vic engine from a police cruiser for my F150 that I bought with bent valves. Was told it ran good but decided to open it up to check it out. Glad I did because although the engine never jumped time the left side lower guide had broken in two and was just laying in there still guiding the chain but ready to get crunched. Nice video ! Explained everything without the bee-bop !
I was getting slack in my right side chain, and I got super scared I messed something up, I was about to buy new tensioners. Thanks for saving me money!! 😂
I’ve been searching high and low for this exact information !! I’m glad I came across your video before selling my left arm for a mechanic to time mine for me
Man youre a life saver, i got screwed by a mechanic and he left with all my parts and money. Im stuck now having to work on it on my own, this, a bad lifter and ima change the oil pick up, wish me luck :)
I watched a handfull of other videos, But nothing made it seem so easy and make me confident in working on this, im so happy I found this video. And the camera perspective is helpful, but i got really motion sick watching
Just finished a timing job on my 4.6 and didn't know that the timing marks on the chains won't line up with the dots on the gears after rotating the engine and was starting to worry that I did something wrong! Thanks for the video telling me about that they will only line up when you first put them on. After rotating the engine twice all three timing marks lined up like they should. Thanks for the video great job!
Great video. You answered the question I had. I was concerned that after I rotated the motor the timing marks and chain links didn’t line back up. Yours was the only video that indicated that wasn’t a concern. Great job, thanks a lot
WOW DUDE ! I have to tear down my crown vic again I put in Motor Craft timing chain and guides and with in 40 k they failed so I have to start over again been looking at some how to videos and they all skip the tear downs or installs . Your video rocks dude step by step very slowly you go into each stage I am a certified tech love your video huge thank you ! You helped me a lot because I forgot how to get everything lined up and do the install thanks again
@@KumArkings32 I wish more you tubers would make videos like yours about 90% tear shit down don't show how they did it and put it back together and skip that shit too ! It sucks I have to tear this down again I put all motor craft shit in there and it lasted about 45 K the valve covers suck to get off I had to take a die grinder and cut the corner off the evap housing to clear the valve cover so I could get it out and put it back in. I guess you are supposed to unbolt the motor mount and drop the engine down to get the pass side cover off . I wish Ford had that shove up their ass and the Motor craft chain and guides that failed I change my oil every 3000 miles and even use Motor Craft filters oh the fun of working on cars glad I got out of this shit for a living !
@@madmanmechanic8847 haha yeah ford made some questionable decisions when putting car together back in the day, I this the whole thing while the motor was out of the car so it was a lot easier for me
@@KumArkings32 I used to be a Ford Tech and we saw some shitty designs from the engineers . I just bought a 2000 Police interceptor off of auction its an old Nevada POST car has 89000 original miles . I tuned it up and replaced the fuel filter its got a misfire went to run a scanner on it and it tells me MIL is off cant get any codes out of it. Cleared it disconnect the battery tried every thing still get the MIL is off but here is the catcher the check engine light works when you turn on the key . I have no clue WTF dude? I am going to call the dealer in all my years of being a tech never had a car I couldn't retrieve codes from. Again I am glad I am out of this shit don't miss it at all. Have a good one bro thanks for the replies
Thank you so much. I’m about to do timing chain on my 2000 crown Vic this weekend and this video helped me out so much! I’ll be back with an update when it’s finished.. Thank you 😎
Great write up..Just what I needed with the aftermarket cams I got makes doing it easier for sure..You answered alot of unanswered questions I had..I've got a billet oil pump I've had sitting on the shelf..That I havent swapped yet but. Now I think I'll attempt it and change the timing kit if it needs it Motor only has 20k since being g rebuilt with forged internals..Now I feel I can do the job thanks to your video👍🏻🍻
Great video my man. I'm about to change mine and needed to know how to do it. You explained it perfectly and made it easy to understand. Keep up the good work.
You know ...I have built many older V8 engines that ran forever with out dam cam chains ..internal camshaft ..did they run any better. .hell yes....so much for progress !!! 🤣🤣
hey man great video - I'm about to do this job for the first time on my 2011 Crown Vic Police Interceptor. I watched a ton of videos and many say once you lock the cams with the cam locking tool to not rotate them again with the chain off, or it could mess up the timing. but then most videos end up rotating them slightly with the tool off, to line up the chain properly? little confused by this
good video my brother ,,i got 2004 maruader 112,000 miles on it..eventually im gonna have do my engine it has that rattle sound only when u frist start it up for about few seconds then it goes away..maybe timming chain tensioner latting the chain slap to the oil fill them or hydraullio cylinder in the tensionerare alittle worn
It takes 16 full complete rotations for the timing DOT and Timing Link to match up again..... After doing these over the past 20 years, I've learned this....
What about the crank shaft the keeper should be faced noon up i also had to replace right cylinder head so I put everything back on and worry were to set the crank shaft
man I just built my first cammed engine on my channel and I was wondering why did the chain loose tension on the turns man you saved my life brother I was a little worried about why the change lost tension as you turned it at certain points
Great video! By having the crankshaft sprocket with the dot at the 6 o’clock position, will moving your cam gear to line up the chain hit the pistons? In other words, do you need the special tool everyone says you need or used some locking pliers to lock the cams? Thanks.
Hello I have 2 questions for the timing cover how many lbs of torque you put it; and if you bleed your lifters before put them. Thank you very much for your help.
I did exactly the same job on my engine my only error was using the same timing chains I replace tensioners and guides and when I put everything back together I had a rattling chain sound do u think that it can be that my timing chains stretch ? Or can it be my oil pump ? I would really appreciate your respond thank u
Hi! I am working on the same type of engine and having trouble catching the timing on mine. Is there any other advice you might have for me like the valve, What should they be doing?
Hi my name is Sammy b I'm putting a oil pump on my 2004 gt mustang. Turning my crank to top dead center my chain doesn't line up with my cam dots it's one whole tooth off.when I put it back together do I set it with the marks on the chain and the cam dots .
Hey i got a question i was hoping you can answer. When lining up timing marks how do you know the came gear marks are in the right position like the crank sprocket being at 6 o clock? Or does it not matter as long as for example the rh timing mark matches with crank timing mark with no slack on one side of the chain? Not sure if you can make sense of this question but im trying to learn lol
Hey i was replacing a 97 lincoln ford 4.6l 2v v8 head gasket and when i set the crankshaft to top dead cent the cams where totally off but my engine ran smooth its weird , while the heads were off i forgot to turn the cams into the timing position and bolted them onto the heads and now when i try to turn cams to the timing position i can feel valves hitting pistons, do i gotta take the heads back off ?
Someone plz help, i need to do the timing chain on my 4.6 2v f150, its rattling, and its either a broken chain guide or a rocker arm, anyways, how do u get the mark to point at 6 o clock if motor is still in my truck?
Hey man so when taking off the tensioners for the Passenger side cam, is it normal for it to kind of skip teeth and settle because there's no tension? And also what is the best position for the crank to be at for this? Because people say keep it at 9 o'clock to prevent it hitting a valve because it does snap back once the tension is gone. Thanks!
I doubt you’ll see this but I would really appreciate if you could help me out I recently did a head gasket kit (driver side) on my 03 mustang gt and the engine was spinning freely when I put the timing chains on and spun it one full lap around it just locked up the engine didn’t wanna spin at all I had to spin the cam shaft to get it to the timing marks so I did one full spin and it sat perfectly in the timing marks please help I don’t know what to do
Didn't you need to use a camshaft position locating tool to keep them from moving? The Ford factory video shows use of the Ford # T91P-6256-A alignment tools. Thanks.
@@KumArkings32 I was under the impression that the camshafts would turn on their own if not restrained by the tool because of the valve spring pressure? You didn't have any such issues?
@@custombill the turning is easily countered by a wrench on the cam bolt until the hinged rail and then tensioner is fitted. When the tool is used you will have trouble starting the tensioner bolts as tool doesn't hold chain tight on drive side to give enough slack on the slack side. You can move the crank key to 9 o'clock to get to a spot where cams stay put since chain marks by dots is how it is being timed. A wrench will still be needed to tension chain on drive side for tensioner install if this is done.
I was worried about number one being at TDC before I take it all apart. I did the screw driver trick and ended up with a bent screwdriver. I don’t have the heads off yet. Hopefully I don’t have a ruined piston too.
OMG I changed timing chains and valve stem seals and engine running like missing cylinders and rough when you give it gas ... at Idle its smooth I check the compression every cylinder is around 125 psi The stock cams and retainers had alot of scaring on the bearings and now make a lot of noise after reinstall .. WOULD THE CAMS CAUSE IT TO RUN TERRIBLE IF THEY ARE WORE OUT ...
@@bengordon7635 Did you mean the cam bearing bolts were too tight? Was wondering may have to do this myself. Or are you talking specifically about the front bolt?
@@richardtrowell8812 My valves were so bad soon as some turned changing the seals the seal was broke ,, I pulled both heads and put all new valves and cams .. there was huge build ups of carbon on top of piston , valves and valve seals runs like new now no smoking or burning oil at all .. that was the problem not the timing chain install .. I did both at same time chain and valve stem seals .. there is no way any engine cleaner would ever get rid of moderate carbon build up ..
@@bengordon7635 when you removed the cams to change the seals did you have to degree them? I have dual overhead cams. Unless the seals can be replaced without removing them.
How do you know when it's top dead center?If the cylinder comes up twice once for the compression and one forful exhaust, how do you tell the difference?Help me please
Most definitely as someone said below - - - this is the best video on RUclips regarding this procedure. Excellent commentary and camera work. Outstanding job.
Thank you !!
Bought a crown Vic engine from a police cruiser for my F150 that I bought with bent valves. Was told it ran good but decided to open it up to check it out. Glad I did because although the engine never jumped time the left side lower guide had broken in two and was just laying in there still guiding the chain but ready to get crunched. Nice video ! Explained everything without the bee-bop !
This guy is good!!
Thank you for the amazing video! Because of you, many of us can properly take care of our beautiful 4.6s!
No problem, appreciate you !!
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I was getting slack in my right side chain, and I got super scared I messed something up, I was about to buy new tensioners. Thanks for saving me money!! 😂
I’ve been searching high and low for this exact information !! I’m glad I came across your video before selling my left arm for a mechanic to time mine for me
Man youre a life saver, i got screwed by a mechanic and he left with all my parts and money. Im stuck now having to work on it on my own, this, a bad lifter and ima change the oil pick up, wish me luck :)
I watched a handfull of other videos, But nothing made it seem so easy and make me confident in working on this, im so happy I found this video. And the camera perspective is helpful, but i got really motion sick watching
Just finished a timing job on my 4.6 and didn't know that the timing marks on the chains won't line up with the dots on the gears after rotating the engine and was starting to worry that I did something wrong! Thanks for the video telling me about that they will only line up when you first put them on. After rotating the engine twice all three timing marks lined up like they should. Thanks for the video great job!
Great video explanation. I was wondering about the slack and the markings on the chains not lining up. All good now.
Thanks man! Happy I could help!
Great video. You answered the question I had. I was concerned that after I rotated the motor the timing marks and chain links didn’t line back up. Yours was the only video that indicated that wasn’t a concern. Great job, thanks a lot
I'm glad I saw this video this guy is a life savior God bless you
Really appreciate this video. Perfectly explained process. Thank you
Great video.very simple, straight to the point, yet accurate and complete. Thank you!! 🤟
WOW DUDE ! I have to tear down my crown vic again I put in Motor Craft timing chain and guides and with in 40 k they failed so I have to start over again been looking at some how to videos and they all skip the tear downs or installs . Your video rocks dude step by step very slowly you go into each stage I am a certified tech love your video huge thank you ! You helped me a lot because I forgot how to get everything lined up and do the install thanks again
Appreciate it bro! Glad I could help!
@@KumArkings32 I wish more you tubers would make videos like yours about 90% tear shit down don't show how they did it and put it back together and skip that shit too ! It sucks I have to tear this down again I put all motor craft shit in there and it lasted about 45 K the valve covers suck to get off I had to take a die grinder and cut the corner off the evap housing to clear the valve cover so I could get it out and put it back in. I guess you are supposed to unbolt the motor mount and drop the engine down to get the pass side cover off . I wish Ford had that shove up their ass and the Motor craft chain and guides that failed I change my oil every 3000 miles and even use Motor
Craft filters oh the fun of working on cars glad I got out of this shit for a living !
@@madmanmechanic8847 haha yeah ford made some questionable decisions when putting car together back in the day, I this the whole thing while the motor was out of the car so it was a lot easier for me
@@KumArkings32 I used to be a Ford Tech and we saw some shitty designs from the engineers . I just bought a 2000 Police interceptor off of auction its an old Nevada POST car has 89000 original miles . I tuned it up and replaced the fuel filter its got a misfire went to run a scanner on it and it tells me MIL is off cant get any codes out of it. Cleared it disconnect the battery tried every thing still get the MIL is off but here is the catcher the check engine light works when you turn on the key . I have no clue WTF dude? I am going to call the dealer in all my years of being a tech never had a car I couldn't retrieve codes from. Again I am glad I am out of this shit don't miss it at all. Have a good one bro thanks for the replies
Wow perfect, will come back once I'm done with my 4.6
Best video on this I have seen. You explain what to do with cams on heads. Thanks
Needed this ! Thought I messed the timing up because the color links weren’t lining back up not knowing there not meant to 😂
Thank you so much. I’m about to do timing chain on my 2000 crown Vic this weekend and this video helped me out so much! I’ll be back with an update when it’s finished.. Thank you 😎
Great write up..Just what I needed with the aftermarket cams I got makes doing it easier for sure..You answered alot of unanswered questions I had..I've got a billet oil pump I've had sitting on the shelf..That I havent swapped yet but. Now I think I'll attempt it and change the timing kit if it needs it Motor only has 20k since being g rebuilt with forged internals..Now I feel I can do the job thanks to your video👍🏻🍻
Great video my man. I'm about to change mine and needed to know how to do it. You explained it perfectly and made it easy to understand. Keep up the good work.
Thanks bro!!
Great job,felt like you was Chrisfix!!
You know ...I have built many older V8 engines that ran forever with out dam cam chains ..internal camshaft ..did they run any better. .hell yes....so much for progress !!! 🤣🤣
Great job and explanation this is the type of video walkthroughs we need 👏👏👏
hey man great video - I'm about to do this job for the first time on my 2011 Crown Vic Police Interceptor. I watched a ton of videos and many say once you lock the cams with the cam locking tool to not rotate them again with the chain off, or it could mess up the timing. but then most videos end up rotating them slightly with the tool off, to line up the chain properly? little confused by this
good video my brother ,,i got 2004 maruader 112,000 miles on it..eventually im gonna have do my engine it has that rattle sound only when u frist start it up for about few seconds then it goes away..maybe timming chain tensioner latting the chain slap to the oil fill them or hydraullio cylinder in the tensionerare alittle worn
Good video great detail thanks
Where did you end up getting the longer bolt?
Dude you the damn best, man thank you very much for you video is really really help me a lot, thank for help 👍
Thanks dude, you make it look easy!
Building a cammed mustang now and this video probably saved me a lot of curse words haha. Awesome vid!
Does it not have to be on the compression stroke TDC = top dead center ? Or can it just be top dead center= TDC ?
Awesome bro Where did u get the longer bolt for the rail
It takes 16 full complete rotations for the timing DOT and Timing Link to match up again..... After doing these over the past 20 years, I've learned this....
Wish I seen this before turning it by hand for 2 hours 😭
What about the crank shaft the keeper should be faced noon up i also had to replace right cylinder head so I put everything back on and worry were to set the crank shaft
man I just built my first cammed engine on my channel and I was wondering why did the chain loose tension on the turns man you saved my life brother
I was a little worried about why the change lost tension as you turned it at certain points
Thanks man, hope your build goes well!
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Great video! By having the crankshaft sprocket with the dot at the 6 o’clock position, will moving your cam gear to line up the chain hit the pistons? In other words, do you need the special tool everyone says you need or used some locking pliers to lock the cams? Thanks.
thanks for the great content i was worried i had done something wrong because my chain was slack on one side after turning crank
Great video
Good vid man.
Hello I have 2 questions for the timing cover how many lbs of torque you put it; and if you bleed your lifters before put them. Thank you very much for your help.
Thanks for the video is good information
I did exactly the same job on my engine my only error was using the same timing chains I replace tensioners and guides and when I put everything back together I had a rattling chain sound do u think that it can be that my timing chains stretch ? Or can it be my oil pump ? I would really appreciate your respond thank u
Hi!
I am working on the same type of engine and having trouble catching the timing on mine. Is there any other advice you might have for me like the valve, What should they be doing?
What happened to the video between this one and the head install where you install the cams?
Hey do you have too degree the cams like that while getting gthe time set I’m trying too put 5.4 cams in my 4.6
Have a 2011 cvpi 131,000 when would be a good time to do this. Great vid thanks for posting 👍
Thank you! Usually if you kept up on oil changes and never let it get low, the guides should be ok and you won't really need to do it soon
@@KumArkings32 thanks for responding new subscriber
Hi my name is Sammy b I'm putting a oil pump on my 2004 gt mustang. Turning my crank to top dead center my chain doesn't line up with my cam dots it's one whole tooth off.when I put it back together do I set it with the marks on the chain and the cam dots .
Hey i got a question i was hoping you can answer. When lining up timing marks how do you know the came gear marks are in the right position like the crank sprocket being at 6 o clock? Or does it not matter as long as for example the rh timing mark matches with crank timing mark with no slack on one side of the chain? Not sure if you can make sense of this question but im trying to learn lol
I wonder if that’s the same motor as my 2003 F150 4.6 ??
I also bought the Ford timing chain kit
Also why the other bolts -ARP ??
Thanks great video
How many miles you got on it before you heard there was a problem
Thank you for this video! May I ask if you had to put a gasket on the tensioners or if they came with them pre installed?
No gasket
I need yo change my valve seals and don't want to remove heads,I'm worried about removing the cam,any videos?
Hey i was replacing a 97 lincoln ford 4.6l 2v v8 head gasket and when i set the crankshaft to top dead cent the cams where totally off but my engine ran smooth its weird , while the heads were off i forgot to turn the cams into the timing position and bolted them onto the heads and now when i try to turn cams to the timing position i can feel valves hitting pistons, do i gotta take the heads back off ?
How do you know if you not up on compression or exhaust on the pistol the number one?
Someone plz help, i need to do the timing chain on my 4.6 2v f150, its rattling, and its either a broken chain guide or a rocker arm, anyways, how do u get the mark to point at 6 o clock if motor is still in my truck?
Which chain tensioner guide goes on which side. They are different.
Hey man so when taking off the tensioners for the Passenger side cam, is it normal for it to kind of skip teeth and settle because there's no tension? And also what is the best position for the crank to be at for this? Because people say keep it at 9 o'clock to prevent it hitting a valve because it does snap back once the tension is gone. Thanks!
I doubt you’ll see this but I would really appreciate if you could help me out I recently did a head gasket kit (driver side) on my 03 mustang gt and the engine was spinning freely when I put the timing chains on and spun it one full lap around it just locked up the engine didn’t wanna spin at all I had to spin the cam shaft to get it to the timing marks so I did one full spin and it sat perfectly in the timing marks please help I don’t know what to do
Answers alot o questions showed me what I was doing wrong
Didn't you need to use a camshaft position locating tool to keep them from moving? The Ford factory video shows use of the Ford # T91P-6256-A alignment tools. Thanks.
I did not have access to the tool and also didn't really need it to do it as shown in the video
@@KumArkings32 I was under the impression that the camshafts would turn on their own if not restrained by the tool because of the valve spring pressure? You didn't have any such issues?
@@custombill the turning is easily countered by a wrench on the cam bolt until the hinged rail and then tensioner is fitted. When the tool is used you will have trouble starting the tensioner bolts as tool doesn't hold chain tight on drive side to give enough slack on the slack side. You can move the crank key to 9 o'clock to get to a spot where cams stay put since chain marks by dots is how it is being timed. A wrench will still be needed to tension chain on drive side for tensioner install if this is done.
@@jimmyaber5920 please confirm: you don't need to use camshaft holding tools when removing the chains? [02 Explorer 2V]
Can I just slap the timing chain on or do you have to time it and is it as simple as bolt ons
I was worried about number one being at TDC before I take it all apart. I did the screw driver trick and ended up with a bent screwdriver. I don’t have the heads off yet. Hopefully I don’t have a ruined piston too.
Did you use cam holders ?
Thanks for the video it halp me
OMG I changed timing chains and valve stem seals and engine running like missing cylinders and rough when you give it gas ... at Idle its smooth I check the compression every cylinder is around 125 psi The stock cams and retainers had alot of scaring on the bearings and now make a lot of noise after reinstall .. WOULD THE CAMS CAUSE IT TO RUN TERRIBLE IF THEY ARE WORE OUT ...
It is a possibility, sounds like you need to tear the whole thing apart and start over
the cams were too tight .. may have to degree cams .. used a click style wrench .. bought a digital one now right specs
@@bengordon7635 Did you mean the cam bearing bolts were too tight? Was wondering may have to do this myself. Or are you talking specifically about the front bolt?
@@richardtrowell8812 My valves were so bad soon as some turned changing the seals the seal was broke ,, I pulled both heads and put all new valves and cams .. there was huge build ups of carbon on top of piston , valves and valve seals runs like new now no smoking or burning oil at all .. that was the problem not the timing chain install .. I did both at same time chain and valve stem seals .. there is no way any engine cleaner would ever get rid of moderate carbon build up ..
@@bengordon7635 when you removed the cams to change the seals did you have to degree them? I have dual overhead cams. Unless the seals can be replaced without removing them.
Do you know what size the water pump mounting bolts are?
I don't, sorry
Will this just work fine with normal 4.6 engine ?
Yes
Please confirm: 2002 Explorer, 2V, 125k. Do you need to have cam holding tools in place to do this repair?
Yes. You should
Might need some help with pictures soon pulling my motor to rebuild in a few weeks appreciate it bro
No problem, message me on Instagram whenever you need it
@@KumArkings32 I followed my name is slowyellow_2v
Good job bro. Lots of help
We're can get big bolt
Hey, did you install the engine back in to the mustang ?
Not yet
Can you redo a timing chain if you think its wasn't done correctly
Yes you can, just remove everything slowly
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If my friend engine blows up it’s on you
How do you know when it's top dead center?If the cylinder comes up twice once for the compression and one forful exhaust, how do you tell the difference?Help me please
Cylinder 1 need to be all the way to the top along with 6 I believe.
The crank has a timing mark which should be at 6 o clock
Great video