RULES EDIT: Cut-throats only gives a bonus attack when you are fighting, not retaliating. 42:49 Fickle Fates - Only grants 'Punishing' against Ready operatives so this wouldn't activate in this shooting.
Thanks for the battle report. Kroot are not even close to the worst team right now (it's Navy Breachers). I think this game could have gone the other way. Also wanted to point out that Fickle Fates only grants Punishing against ready operatives, so it wouldn't trigger against the Longsight in TP 4.
I think when the video came out there was a command point tier list and legionaries were 2nd best and Kroot had hit the bottom spot! - that being said i've played against Kroot a bunch and do think they have play - they dont' feel terrible at all - not played breachers in this edition but aware they effectivly lost an operative and they don't get that extra wound now so can understand - some people saying Vet Guard also vying for bottom spot
@@GFNGaming honestly it seems to mainly be the slaanesh mark and nurgle marks that cause this, personally I run nearly full khorne and while strong, they CAN be decently beat by a smart player then, instead of being a nearly untouchable killing machine... Just don't charge and fight them 😅
Quicksilver speed can be brutal - maybe giving it only after charging, so teams that also have melee units can still charge into you and have a decent chance at hitting, also the CP generation from the Icon bearer seems too reliable maybe a roll each turn to make it a little less certain
@@GFNGaming - If they limit the mark stuff, and the CPs, I think they are fine... Some of the other KTs need to be buffed, as well. I think your KT should be limited to either the Mark of your Leader or be Undivided.
I'm new to Kill Team, question. How come operatives are fighting through terrain/walls/cover like in 22:43? Can someone explain that to me as I thought it was not possible of behind cover like that?
The operatives just need visibility to the enemy operative and to be within control range 1'' - terrain doesn't really factor into that - specifically in Volkus in the fortress buildings if the walls are less than 2'' tall you dont need visibility to be within control range - this means operatives can be within the objective markers range and still control it/bop it or you can fight a target within your control range without needing visibility to the actual model - i'm guessing to help out models with lower heads like orcs and ratlings that might literally not be able to see a target. hope that helps
You can’t have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat! And why didn’t the Cold-blood want any pudding? Also, is the Siphon Life ability measured base to base or horizontal distance only? The bale fire looked well over 6” away on the vantage point at the end?
I enjoy playing them and they excel if you focus on tak and crit ops. I think there are several teams right now that are unbalanced compared to other teams for this current edition.
I think the night we played the game a tier list came out with Legionaries second best and Kroot as the worst team but i still think Kroot have got some moves now.
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RULES EDIT:
Cut-throats only gives a bonus attack when you are fighting, not retaliating.
42:49 Fickle Fates - Only grants 'Punishing' against Ready operatives so this wouldn't activate in this shooting.
"Can't stand it, I know you planned it.."
' I'ma set it straight, this Watergate...' best mission due to the impending sing-a-long every time it gets selected!
Thanks for the battle report. Kroot are not even close to the worst team right now (it's Navy Breachers). I think this game could have gone the other way.
Also wanted to point out that Fickle Fates only grants Punishing against ready operatives, so it wouldn't trigger against the Longsight in TP 4.
I think when the video came out there was a command point tier list and legionaries were 2nd best and Kroot had hit the bottom spot! - that being said i've played against Kroot a bunch and do think they have play - they dont' feel terrible at all - not played breachers in this edition but aware they effectivly lost an operative and they don't get that extra wound now so can understand - some people saying Vet Guard also vying for bottom spot
Legionaries are dumb. What an unfun experience. Let's hope for that dataslate soon.
As a legionaries player i can't help but agree! i love 'em but need to be nerfed a little to make it not a feel bad match up for your opponent.
@@GFNGaming honestly it seems to mainly be the slaanesh mark and nurgle marks that cause this, personally I run nearly full khorne and while strong, they CAN be decently beat by a smart player then, instead of being a nearly untouchable killing machine... Just don't charge and fight them 😅
Quicksilver speed can be brutal - maybe giving it only after charging, so teams that also have melee units can still charge into you and have a decent chance at hitting, also the CP generation from the Icon bearer seems too reliable maybe a roll each turn to make it a little less certain
@@GFNGaming - If they limit the mark stuff, and the CPs, I think they are fine... Some of the other KTs need to be buffed, as well. I think your KT should be limited to either the Mark of your Leader or be Undivided.
They’re amazing. Don’t bring them down. Bring everyone else up!
Cut-throats only gives a bonus attack when you are fighting, not retaliating.
Good shout - missed that!
So much shenanigans to remember. I miss the simplicity of the compendium teams.
Ok. Public apology to everyone listening to this for my cold.
Totally expecting to be slammed in the comments…. 😂
XD didn't realise you'd actually commented! - it does get better after the start.
Oh, so that's what this sighing is for. I thought it was being grumpy for deciding to play such a matchup :)
@@robertchmielecki2580 it can be both :)
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Blood for the blood god!
I'm new to Kill Team, question.
How come operatives are fighting through terrain/walls/cover like in 22:43?
Can someone explain that to me as I thought it was not possible of behind cover like that?
The operatives just need visibility to the enemy operative and to be within control range 1'' - terrain doesn't really factor into that - specifically in Volkus in the fortress buildings if the walls are less than 2'' tall you dont need visibility to be within control range - this means operatives can be within the objective markers range and still control it/bop it or you can fight a target within your control range without needing visibility to the actual model - i'm guessing to help out models with lower heads like orcs and ratlings that might literally not be able to see a target. hope that helps
@@GFNGaming ahh ok, makes sense.
Thanks for the response. 👍
35:00 how is the bow kroot able to shoot through the large terrain?
No Ben don’t pass!
Love your reports ❤
i hope we get an Emperors Children killteam with the new 40k codex this year
@@3ggh3ad oh man! That'd be class like, I'm not writing it off. Plague marines have their own team so it's certainly possible 🙏🏻
@@GFNGaming wishful thinking but ya never know
can someone explain the dice roll modifications at 7:22? like what exactly made the rolls resolved and modified vs. the shrivetalon?
doggo has rending, hitting on 4's now because of quicksilver speed, Shrive has lethal 5+ and resolves first.
@ awesome thank you 🙏🏽
You can’t have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat! And why didn’t the Cold-blood want any pudding?
Also, is the Siphon Life ability measured base to base or horizontal distance only? The bale fire looked well over 6” away on the vantage point at the end?
yeaaah more KT
Is Farstalker Kinband really that bad? I have read that they are improved quite a lot in a new edition.
I enjoy playing them and they excel if you focus on tak and crit ops. I think there are several teams right now that are unbalanced compared to other teams for this current edition.
I think the night we played the game a tier list came out with Legionaries second best and Kroot as the worst team but i still think Kroot have got some moves now.
@@GFNGaming Kroot are absolutely nowhere near the worst, especially not with Krieg and Imperial Navy around.
Lots of people saying Breachers now claim that coveted bottom spot! Breachers into Warp Coven next game? XD
Player how was be second on previous turn has +1 initiative or i wrong?
They break ties now
No, they just win ties.
I’m pretty sure both players only get one CP on TP1.
Absolutely great game nonetheless ❤
Oh shit, just looked it up your right.. Missed that myself too
So the extra CP was due to the Icon Bearer - his rule states in the ready step of each strat phase if he isn't incapacitated you gain 1 CP.
@@GFNGaming my bad! I haven’t played with or against legionnaires yet.
Thank you for the clarification!
No worries man, it is a bit ridiculous that they get it like XD if it sounds too good to be true its probably a legionaries thing