I’d love if they added an animation for the PP-19 where your character tries to do theatrical magazine flip, drops it on the ground, watches as all the rounds are vomited out, grabs a new mag out of a pouch, and kicks the old one aside like the proverbial ice cube under the fridge.
Just the other day I was imagining a WWII shooter where reloading the Garand has a 5% chance to give you Garand Thumb (with appropriate cussing by the player character).
Re: Wood texturing. It's been done for nearly 20 years, but not with direct modelling of the wood grain, rather with a technique named "bump mapping", which is a mapping that "simulates" the higher fidelity effects on the textures without actually putting in the (resource intensive) polygons, using just the shaders. It's been done at least since the time of CS:Source, and not just for wood textures. Edit: see more accurate and knowledgeable corrections in the replies
I was about to say this as well, thank you for vouching. however you are mildly incorrect...bump mapping, which goes beyond normal mapping, utilizes a texture map to tesselate (add extra triangles and displace in accordance to a map such as a Parallax Occlusion Map. this is more performant than uploading models to the gpu as the gpu is generating triangles on the fly) new triangles into the mesh. this is done just before the geometry shader of the pipeline. normal maps and specular maps can do something similar (they are also both pixel shaders in the pipeline) but it's not a true bump, it's a lighting interaction, giving the effect and performance you described.
Came here to write this like countless others lol. I love how Jonathon has a decent understanding of game dev, and takes that into account in his breakdowns.
@@Kaleidio Don't you mean height / displacement mapping? Normal mapping (Dot3 bump) is a bump map implementation that uses RGB instead of grayscale, the values correspond to XYZ coordinates, while bump mapping uses only one channel to fake depth. I also know that TF2 used to call normal maps *_bump.vtf, so I guess it's the same thing in CS:S.
That hybrid sight design is actually real, it’s pretty new. I tried it on a 300 blackout AR a few weeks ago at my local gun shop. That whole setup with the suppressor and sight system cost about $5000
@@thegoodboi2748 The Emotional Support Sturmgewehr is the only good thing to come from that video; really just emotional support for the entire arsenal of that game's weapon customization. Pretty sure you don't even have to be a gun nerd to see how *incredibly* cursed those franken-weapons are.
All of you guys are lame. “He’s happy now” “Vangaurd is lame.” Seeing little kids discuss Call of Duty is really cringey. Your parents should buy you a real game that requires you to use that brain in your head that’s smaller than what’s in packing in your pants. You simps.
tie between him n lucas botkin for me. two very different delivery styles (with botkin focusing more on practicsl uses and training) but both equally as knowledgeable and engaged in their subject
The first one was the first game I played that actually understood that being shot at should sound unpleasant. The snaps and cracks could actually make you flinch. The graphics were a mess, but the sound design was absolutely peak! COD games still lack this and it makes being in firefights incredibly flat.
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Warfighter was so good, the battle buddy system was a great time, and all the real spec ops teams were so cool, one of the only times as a Canadian I’ve gotten to play the JTF-2.
14:20 there is a company called Unity Tactical that makes the optics mounting solution I'm assuming this is based off of. The whole idea is that you put your already tall optic on an even taller mount to make passive aiming with night vision easier on your neck, and then that extra height gives you enough room for your magnifier to have a mount that flips down instead of to the side where it can get caught on things
A note about wood textures, fine 3D details like wood grain are often achieved with normal or "bump" maps on the textures which allow the textures to sort of "fake" small 3 dimensional details on the flatter, simpler 3D polygons underneath. That's how most games get things like wood to look realistically bumpy or grained without requiring insanely detailed and intensive 3D models.
Can we get Jonathan to do a part 2 on Insurgency Sandstorm? They've recently had a new update and there are a lot of interesting guns that have been added since he last took a look at it. Another episode about Battlefield 1 would be awesome too.
Hi Jonathan, I wanted to point out that in the States, unity tactical makes a mount for magnifier sights that swings it down. I have one on my AR and it is a pretty suitable setup and is great for keeping everything in line with the weapon, rather than swinging out a significant portion of your optical solution that could get damaged on a corner or something while doing CQB.
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries In addition, this magnifier mount is heightened specifically for tall optic setups, usually for the purposes of Night vision.
The magnifier that flips up and down is a real thing. It’s a Unity Tactical flip to center mount. It only works because of unitiy’s 2.26 inch height over bore mounts. I have one and it’s awesome. Reduced the risk of snagging. And the higher mount is ideal for night vision.
A nice detail concerning the thermal optics, when aiming at a window in game that still has a glass pane on it while using a thermal optic, you can't see out the window nearly at all. Nice detail that I noticed with both the night vision and thermal stuff.
Small issue with the chapter titles, the first weapon is an MG 338. The FightLite MCR is what's known as the Icarus 556 in-game, the AR-15 derived machine gun.
@@Salmon_Toastie he might know a bit more than that about the game who knows he might even have it but havent had time to play it he he did mention that he did play MW 2019 so it's not to much of a stretch that he would play this one too
for the record the optic mount for the SCAR DMR is a unity mount it does have the optic sit higher but it allows for a flip up or flip down feature. Instead of the flip to side for the magnifiers
Jonathan, in regards to the thermal optic... plastic, perspex etc. would have the same effect as glass. Thermal cameras/scopes cannot work through any material as it just give the temperature of the material it is looking at so anything in front of the sight would render it useless and you wouldn't actually be able to see anything at just a wall of whatever colour scale the sight is set to (assuming the glass/plastic in front is one temperature of course).
The mount for the magnifier is a newer product in the civilian world, and functions in real life as it does in game. The mount specifically is the Unity Tactical FTC Omni (Flip-to-center). It's also paired in game with the Steiner CQT optic, which is an integrated thermal weapon sight.
I kinda want a part 3. More or less about the different platforms of some of these guns. The one that comes out as more unique is the m4/p90 conversion. I've never seen that be a thing on any other gun, it's really alien to me.
Also of note about the AUG folding grip. Its attached to the barrel because the system has a quick-change barrel feature, and the foregrip is where the operator can grab and swap barrels without burning their hands. This is similar to many lmgs where the carry handle is attached to the barrel for the same reason. The HK21 also included in this game has a rectangular protrusion on the right-hand side of the barrel shroud. This is their version of a 'handle' for swapping barrels.
so to answer for the wood textures, there are such of things called bump and roughness maps where it is a map that is put with the texture to add depth and 3D looking stuff on the textures because if there are minor details that would maybe be bumpy or be very small crevices bump maps show them very well because those few extra polys will always lower optimization and more work than is needed
For those who are curious, the thermal sight that showed up at the end of the video is based on the real world Steiner CQT thermal red-dot sight. It's pretty cool, and I believe the first of its kind.
I always appreciate Johnathan Ferguson the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum's knowledge and insights on gun designs and history. He's such a lovely host for such an amazing series
I was drafted in Thailand, which has HK33 in service, and I can confirm that HK33's mag release button is quite too far to reach with right hand's index finger, and it is quite stiff to the point that it is easier to use right hand's thumb to press it. Also, most of us (draftees) didn't do "HK slap" when reload, but we just did pull charging handle back and down from bolt hold open notch and release it without homing it to forward position.
Please do the guns of half life, they’re quite unique, especially with the auto loaders on the HLA shotgun. Also, the guns of depth, which features underwater combat, would be an interesting change of pace.
The FTC (flip to center) magnifier optic mount is from Unity Tactical, and is sweet. Also, the extended rail section on the Scar 20 is likely modeled after the Kinectic Development Group rail extensions. Having it lower than the monolithic rail allows you to mount lasers out of the way of optics and such.
The hybrid sight setup that allows you to push the magnifier straight down over the rail is the Unity Tactical Flip to Center (FTC) mount. They are pretty awesome
As a gun enthusiast that knows a decent (not a lot) amount about firearms, I feel like Jonathan always says the *perfect* thing to say. I don't know how, but his words are so consumable
Hey Jonathon, Just wanted to let you know that the magnifier set up like that is very much a thing, it's called the FAST™ FTC Aimpoint Magnifier Mount. Just wanted to let you know
The hybrid sight is based on the Unity Tactical Flip to Centre magnifier mount. The real world version only works if your red dot is on a riser so you only get a neck weld.
Most games do wood grain texturing via bump mapping, which is essentially a lighting trick to make things looks more 3D using luminance. If you want the actual geometry to change they could generate a heightmap (texture that describes height values) and generate some sort of tessellation(additional geometry) on it when your holding on to it. This would essentially do what your thinking of and create the wood grain geometry. Issue is it ends up using a lot of performance for something that doesn't look all that much better than bump mapping. Generally flat textures do well with bump mapping, and its not until you look at the contours that your realize the geometry is flat.
Man I would pay lots of money to have any kind of gun education class with this man as my teacher. I wanna go to Royal Firearms museum just for a chance to see him!
only mistake i heard was the first machine gun is not the xm250. it is in fact the mg338 which was looked at to replace the m240 series of weapons and even possible the m2 browning.
14:21 flip-down/up magnifier: Unity Tactical FAST mount comes to mind. Used specifically with a 2.26" height red dot, which is itself set at that height for better passive aiming with night vision. Mounting a red dot that high allows one to see over the magnifier when flipped down and means the magnifier isn't jutting out to the side of the weapon and possibly getting caught or damaged.
"A pane of glass with prevent thermal imaging" Actually that's true in the game. I finally tried out one of the thermal scopes, and I had to break a window to be able to see through it with the sight. It was really cool, actually, lol.
The RAAL is the Sig MG338, big brother of the M250, it’s chambered in 338 Norma Mag, designed to be a man portable LMG with range and anti-material capabilities of the Ma Duece.
Fun fact, in the sniping mission (I can't remember if it's still named all ghillied up or not but the remake of that mission) when you're on the roofs throwing gas in the air vents if you look through the windows in the top of the roof w a thermal scope it doesn't work since thermal won't work through glass
There are a few mounts for magnifiers that let you flip it up and down. Meant for guys running really high risers on their optics for shooting under nods
Jonathan, Unity tactical makes that flip down magnifier, FAB defense also makes one that puts a magnifier below the optic for storage but that one is kinda like an elevator.
The scar handguard extension is real, I think the point it to mount a peq2 box on top so you can manipulate it with a pressure pad or extreme forward grip. the peq2 has its controls laid out in such of a way that it wont be interfered with by the gas block but also doesn't add bulk or snag points to the gun.
The flip down magifier on the SCAR is a real world design. It’s the FAST magnifier mount made by Unity Tactical. It’s a magnifier for a hight mount optic for use with night vision and upright head position.
I like the idea that if the zombie apocalypse were to happen, people would flood to the Royal Armouries and Jonathan would be like a king of the new society.
14:20 the flip to center magnifier and red dot combo has been done in the real world as the UNITY FAST mount which are made to offer a higher cowitness over a absolute co witness often found on other optics and they have come quite popular in the civilian world in the US because of new shooting stances that offer your head to be more upright instead of digging into your stock for a cheekweld everytime you aim in a close range situation like a competition
Love the content and Jonathan is an awesome dude. I wanted to add some information to the rail system post gas block on the SCAR. The lower profile height here is intended as a platform for LAM/PEQ/MAWL devices that would normally interfere with optics or sight profile if mounted on the same plane as the monolithic rail. I have a PEQ-15 on mine for NV IR laser aiming. It sits down out of view and decreases issues you would normally get if you were to side mount those type of devices (as used to be the trend).
The hybrid mount on the scar dmr is based on the unity mount for magnifiers. It stows down instead of off to the side. They're made to work with all of their unity risers which are 2.25" high, except the Eotech riser of course.
there was like a certain FLIR setting i remember some of the USCG aviators i used to work with that they said was sorta like a "low-power" infrared that could kinda see through glass a bit. basically if you think of the light spectrum infrared is a section of that spectrum that sits "below" visible light (less energy/radiation). iirc (i was not an operator of this equipment, just an IT girl that helped maintain some of their training systems) this basically was looking at the lower end of the visible light spectrum and the upper end of infrared simultaneously and so was able to kinda see through glass. just remember tho i am not an expert in this field so i could be misremembering a lot here, i encourage others to look into it if you're interested.
Please Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons. (Please like the comment so gamespot can finally see it) So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video that isnt just more call of duty or tarkov (as much as I love those series) it just feels stale now revisiting the same games for multiple videos.
The RPK in the game seems to be modeled and textured after some batches of AES-10b (Romanian semi auto RPK clone), imported into the US in the late 2000s. They were made from surplus guns on a new receiver that's been phosphated (similar to the WASR 10/63). The originals were late production (generally 1978-1989) with no mag dimple and squarer looking laminate wood with noticeable nails for reinforcement. The wear on the wood is identical to a bunch of stock sets. The color does look more red/darker on the in-game model, though.
14:42 that optic is based off the US army’s Enhanced Night Vision Goggle-Binocular (ENVG-B) It uses a fusion of different IFF /infrared imaging. The real thing is t an optic but a whole system of goggles… what you see looks like something from tron. It’s insane
I saw a small documentary about that tech it uses AI and other technology to find outlines in the surrounding apperantly it was originally made for fire fighter to be able to see through thick smoke
The Flip-to-Center magnifier (FTC) is made by Unity Tactical, they make various FTC mounts for various Flip-to-side (FTS) magnifiers, namely EOTech, Aimpoint, and Vortex Optics
The flip magnified thermal is a fictionalized Steiner thermal holographic with a magnifier on the unity tactical FTC (flip to center) mount. These are paired with unity risers for aimpoints or eotechs typically to reach a carry handle optic height for ease of passive use with NVG. The ability to flip to center is a secondary benefit of this system.
Hey GameSpot, I would love to see Jonathan Ferguson reacting to the weopons of Enlisted. Enlisted is a hyper realistic WW2 shooter and I think they did one of the greatest jobs at modeling the guns.
The flip up magnifier/ red dot you see at 13:30 is a real magnifier. A manufacturer that comes to mind is Unity Tactical. They don’t make the optics but they do make riser mounts for optics and magnifiers. I personally have one for my EOTECH holographic sight and 5x magnifier. I would recommend this to anyone in me market for a high quality optic mount.
The flip-to-center magnifier was created fairly recently by Unity Tactical. It requires a specific mount or rail riser to pair with standard red dot and holographic sights.
3:35 it's no battlefield but suppression is an effective tactic to keep heads down, especially on larger maps it's a good way to pin people while your team flanks
On the topic of the magnifier flipping down instead of out- they do exist, as of the past few years, one specifically I know of is the unity FAST mount for an aimpoint magnifier, I'm sure other brands offer that type of flip mount aswell. Typically for micro magnifiers.
The magnifier at the end does exist in some capacity sans the thermal capability, that is completely fictional, thermal magnifiers do not exist. The magnifier though is relatively new and is called the Unity FAST Flip-To-Center (FTC) and is made to be used with other risers also made by Unity. Those setups using such furniture (without the thermal) do exist in-game as well. A comment I’d like to add about thermals is that I am so glad they’ve gone for the thermal outline approach you’ve seen recently with the new army ENVG’s (thermal outline as a mode isn’t new at all, we’ve had them since 2006 with PSQ-36’s they’ve just been kept hush hush very well for a good while) as opposed to the previous thermal basic solid modes. The effect is definitely the best seen in any game.
Re Thermal View: Sodium Lime glass specifically is the issue. Plastics/Polymers vary between the exact types. Quite a few also block it, but for example HDPE (Polyethylene) can be used for lenses, as it is largely transparent to some frequencies of IR. It is however rather opaque for visible light (Thats what those white domes on motion detectors are.) Another option would be quartz glass, which is the typical choice for IR transparent glass.
The “flip to center” is made by Unity. It’s for optics that run their FAST riser. Since the main optic is taller, the magnifier can be stowed at the bottom instead of obstructing the peripheral and making the firearm “wider”. As for a thermal magnifier, I’d think that’s just COD logic
on wooden furniture details: there is a thing called normal maps its used in pretty much all modern aaa games to both bloat the game size and add depth to the texture normal maps make textures appear deeper by making the parts of it sort of droop in looking from the side it will still be flat but it now light bounces around, showing the bumps in the newly created deeper textures modeling all of it is still possible but would take more time to texture it and model ends up having more triangles, making it weigh more in terms of model file size
The mount for the optic on the SCAR looks to be based off of the Unity Fast mounts. They mount the optic over 2in off the rail so the magnifier can flip to the center.
Weird thing that Jonathan didn't comment on with the Browning Citori, is that despite chopping off the barrel to the length of the foregrip, they rethreaded the barrels and reinstalled the chokes.
I have a buddy who has a magnifier that deploys vertically, I cant remember the brand, but it requires a Unity high riser with his aimpoint to operate effectively. It is a really smooth transition and much easier than the flip-to-side magnifiers
The hybrid flip down magnifier is a real profit from Unity Tactical! Called the FAST Magnifier mount, it’s touted as being less of a snag hazard compared to a flip to side magnifier.
Re Pseudo-monolithic Upper on the MK-20: That's a vague depiction of a Kinetic MREX or maybe a PWS SRX rail extension, it doesn't really look like either one. The purpose would be mounting a laser module on the top rail and have it flush with the rail of the upper receiver, staying out of the way of an optical sight. This can be customized and represented in Escape From Tarkov.
I would love to see Jonathan take a look at some weapons from the Ghost Recon series. I played a ton of the early games (up through the first Advanced Warfighter) and there were always some interesting weapons. The XM8, OICW, SA80, AN-94, and DP27 all appeared in either Ghost Recon, Ghost Recon 2, or Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (sometimes more than one!).
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''We don't specialized at all in guided missiles system here, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE'' It actually made me laught
his comedic timing was perfect
Humble Brag
It's even funnier since he's sitting literally in front of a whole rack of them xD
I’d love if they added an animation for the PP-19 where your character tries to do theatrical magazine flip, drops it on the ground, watches as all the rounds are vomited out, grabs a new mag out of a pouch, and kicks the old one aside like the proverbial ice cube under the fridge.
Dr Disrespect would love to die to this lol
I like how he struggles to properly seat the magazine in the gun, after that flip, he takes two tries to get it right.
Just the other day I was imagining a WWII shooter where reloading the Garand has a 5% chance to give you Garand Thumb (with appropriate cussing by the player character).
@@yetanother9127 garland thumb really wasn’t a big problem in ww2
@@yetanother9127 Battlefield has this
Re: Wood texturing. It's been done for nearly 20 years, but not with direct modelling of the wood grain, rather with a technique named "bump mapping", which is a mapping that "simulates" the higher fidelity effects on the textures without actually putting in the (resource intensive) polygons, using just the shaders. It's been done at least since the time of CS:Source, and not just for wood textures.
Edit: see more accurate and knowledgeable corrections in the replies
I was about to say this as well, thank you for vouching. however you are mildly incorrect...bump mapping, which goes beyond normal mapping, utilizes a texture map to tesselate (add extra triangles and displace in accordance to a map such as a Parallax Occlusion Map. this is more performant than uploading models to the gpu as the gpu is generating triangles on the fly) new triangles into the mesh. this is done just before the geometry shader of the pipeline. normal maps and specular maps can do something similar (they are also both pixel shaders in the pipeline) but it's not a true bump, it's a lighting interaction, giving the effect and performance you described.
Came here for the same reason lol
@@Kaleidio thanks for the apt correction! I used to mod for CSS back in the day, but it's been a long time and I confuse all the relevant terms :)
Came here to write this like countless others lol. I love how Jonathon has a decent understanding of game dev, and takes that into account in his breakdowns.
@@Kaleidio Don't you mean height / displacement mapping? Normal mapping (Dot3 bump) is a bump map implementation that uses RGB instead of grayscale, the values correspond to XYZ coordinates, while bump mapping uses only one channel to fake depth. I also know that TF2 used to call normal maps *_bump.vtf, so I guess it's the same thing in CS:S.
That hybrid sight design is actually real, it’s pretty new. I tried it on a 300 blackout AR a few weeks ago at my local gun shop. That whole setup with the suppressor and sight system cost about $5000
What's the model name for the hybrid sights?
Oh yay I saw a video about this sight
@@spartan8ter might be the eotech hhs set up
the heat finder is in front or below of the first optic is how it works
I though it was an imagination design from the new nvg system the us is working on that uses AI to silhouette elements on field of view
Hes definitely more happy about mw2 then the last cod titles when it comes to weapons.
Aren't we all after all? Treyarch feel off real hard after black ops 3, and sledgehammer's games are hit or miss in a lot of aspects
God that vanguard video was almost painful to watch
IW makes good looking games but they're very obviously much worse than treyarch games
@@thegoodboi2748 The Emotional Support Sturmgewehr is the only good thing to come from that video; really just emotional support for the entire arsenal of that game's weapon customization. Pretty sure you don't even have to be a gun nerd to see how *incredibly* cursed those franken-weapons are.
All of you guys are lame. “He’s happy now” “Vangaurd is lame.” Seeing little kids discuss Call of Duty is really cringey. Your parents should buy you a real game that requires you to use that brain in your head that’s smaller than what’s in packing in your pants. You simps.
Jonathan ferguson is by far my favorite firearm nerd!
Just fresh off wentworth I thought I saw Joan Ferguson at first lol
tie between him n lucas botkin for me. two very different delivery styles (with botkin focusing more on practicsl uses and training) but both equally as knowledgeable and engaged in their subject
No favourites, I love all of them equally and appreciate their specialities respectively
I feel like he’s the most OP character in Shaun of the dead, I’d be heading straight to Leeds royal armouries
@OFFLINE YT , Sure thing, Also big love to Ian !
Medal of Honor: Warfighter. It'd be interesting to see his take on actual licensed weapons in the game.
I was a big fan of those two games..
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries The legend replied. I am not worthy.
The first one was the first game I played that actually understood that being shot at should sound unpleasant. The snaps and cracks could actually make you flinch. The graphics were a mess, but the sound design was absolutely peak! COD games still lack this and it makes being in firefights incredibly flat.
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Warfighter was so good, the battle buddy system was a great time, and all the real spec ops teams were so cool, one of the only times as a Canadian I’ve gotten to play the JTF-2.
14:20 there is a company called Unity Tactical that makes the optics mounting solution I'm assuming this is based off of. The whole idea is that you put your already tall optic on an even taller mount to make passive aiming with night vision easier on your neck, and then that extra height gives you enough room for your magnifier to have a mount that flips down instead of to the side where it can get caught on things
yeah it's almost definitely inspired by the g45 + unity
It is. Glad someone mentioned it
A note about wood textures, fine 3D details like wood grain are often achieved with normal or "bump" maps on the textures which allow the textures to sort of "fake" small 3 dimensional details on the flatter, simpler 3D polygons underneath. That's how most games get things like wood to look realistically bumpy or grained without requiring insanely detailed and intensive 3D models.
The digital foundry viewers were all typing up a storm lol
Can we get Jonathan to do a part 2 on Insurgency Sandstorm? They've recently had a new update and there are a lot of interesting guns that have been added since he last took a look at it. Another episode about Battlefield 1 would be awesome too.
Really? When was the update? I might redownload the game if so.
@@D-Doc-C I downloaded it last night. Finally added in new guns to the Gunner class
@@D-Doc-C Came out on Thursday. It has two new gunner weapons.
yea rpk and m60
@@billymadgehooper3053 Cool, 2 of my favorite weapons. Nice 👍
Hi Jonathan, I wanted to point out that in the States, unity tactical makes a mount for magnifier sights that swings it down. I have one on my AR and it is a pretty suitable setup and is great for keeping everything in line with the weapon, rather than swinging out a significant portion of your optical solution that could get damaged on a corner or something while doing CQB.
Thank you, I knew it would be based on something real. We are quite lacking in the modern optics department.
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries In addition, this magnifier mount is heightened specifically for tall optic setups, usually for the purposes of Night vision.
The magnifier that flips up and down is a real thing. It’s a Unity Tactical flip to center mount. It only works because of unitiy’s 2.26 inch height over bore mounts. I have one and it’s awesome. Reduced the risk of snagging. And the higher mount is ideal for night vision.
BS.
@@robertsears8323 ?
@@robertsears8323 Take your meds. Robert.
Interesting, thank you!
Beat me to it
A nice detail concerning the thermal optics, when aiming at a window in game that still has a glass pane on it while using a thermal optic, you can't see out the window nearly at all. Nice detail that I noticed with both the night vision and thermal stuff.
Small issue with the chapter titles, the first weapon is an MG 338. The FightLite MCR is what's known as the Icarus 556 in-game, the AR-15 derived machine gun.
It’s a shame he never launches the game himself and only gets clips. He even got the platform gunsmith system right.
Wouldn't it be the Ares Shrike?
@@JS-fz8iu it was used to be called that when Fightlite was being called Ares Defense.
@@v12ts.gaming Ahh. I thought it was the other way around.
@@Salmon_Toastie he might know a bit more than that about the game who knows he might even have it but havent had time to play it he he did mention that he did play MW 2019 so it's not to much of a stretch that he would play this one too
for the record the optic mount for the SCAR DMR is a unity mount it does have the optic sit higher but it allows for a flip up or flip down feature. Instead of the flip to side for the magnifiers
Jonathan, in regards to the thermal optic... plastic, perspex etc. would have the same effect as glass. Thermal cameras/scopes cannot work through any material as it just give the temperature of the material it is looking at so anything in front of the sight would render it useless and you wouldn't actually be able to see anything at just a wall of whatever colour scale the sight is set to (assuming the glass/plastic in front is one temperature of course).
The mount for the magnifier is a newer product in the civilian world, and functions in real life as it does in game. The mount specifically is the Unity Tactical FTC Omni (Flip-to-center). It's also paired in game with the Steiner CQT optic, which is an integrated thermal weapon sight.
BS
@Robert Sears nope. Its real. The CQT costs like $10K though
But that thermal sight wouldn't work with a magnifier
@@codemy666 the CQT is compatible with magnifiers.
@@davidmagana556 Yeah but you'd just be looking at pixels more close by because of the nature of thermals so it wouldn't have a point
I kinda want a part 3. More or less about the different platforms of some of these guns. The one that comes out as more unique is the m4/p90 conversion. I've never seen that be a thing on any other gun, it's really alien to me.
Also of note about the AUG folding grip. Its attached to the barrel because the system has a quick-change barrel feature, and the foregrip is where the operator can grab and swap barrels without burning their hands. This is similar to many lmgs where the carry handle is attached to the barrel for the same reason. The HK21 also included in this game has a rectangular protrusion on the right-hand side of the barrel shroud. This is their version of a 'handle' for swapping barrels.
so to answer for the wood textures, there are such of things called bump and roughness maps where it is a map that is put with the texture to add depth and 3D looking stuff on the textures because if there are minor details that would maybe be bumpy or be very small crevices bump maps show them very well because those few extra polys will always lower optimization and more work than is needed
For those who are curious, the thermal sight that showed up at the end of the video is based on the real world Steiner CQT thermal red-dot sight. It's pretty cool, and I believe the first of its kind.
Ahhhh, I knew it looked familiar. I instantly thought of the russian EOTech clone, looks pretty similar.
I wanted to get on for my hog gun, until I realized they were $10,000 🥲
I always appreciate Johnathan Ferguson the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum's knowledge and insights on gun designs and history. He's such a lovely host for such an amazing series
I was drafted in Thailand, which has HK33 in service, and I can confirm that HK33's mag release button is quite too far to reach with right hand's index finger, and it is quite stiff to the point that it is easier to use right hand's thumb to press it. Also, most of us (draftees) didn't do "HK slap" when reload, but we just did pull charging handle back and down from bolt hold open notch and release it without homing it to forward position.
The new holo / Magnifier combo is definitely real. It’s based on the Unity mount.
Anxious to see Johnathan taking a look at Darktide. The bolter is glorious...
Please do the guns of half life, they’re quite unique, especially with the auto loaders on the HLA shotgun. Also, the guns of depth, which features underwater combat, would be an interesting change of pace.
The FTC (flip to center) magnifier optic mount is from Unity Tactical, and is sweet. Also, the extended rail section on the Scar 20 is likely modeled after the Kinectic Development Group rail extensions. Having it lower than the monolithic rail allows you to mount lasers out of the way of optics and such.
The hybrid sight setup that allows you to push the magnifier straight down over the rail is the Unity Tactical Flip to Center (FTC) mount. They are pretty awesome
I hope Jonathan enjoys doing these videos still. I know we all enjoy them but I don’t want him to get tired of them
“We don’t specialize at all in guided missile systems here” *pulls out a guided missile system* his smile when he pulls out the manpad was amazing.
As a gun enthusiast that knows a decent (not a lot) amount about firearms, I feel like Jonathan always says the *perfect* thing to say. I don't know how, but his words are so consumable
Jonathon is the best. He should try Half life 1/ Black Mesa and Half Life 2.
People who are on the firearms design and audio for the guns, must have a really fun job. And really talented people.
Yeah, that hybrid sight setup is a real thing, using an EoTech sight and magnifier and specific mounts. It doesn't have thermal imaging, however
Another one?!
I’m speeding home like when I try rush the Radiation Zone looking for the M13,
To get comfy and watch another masterpiece ❤️
Hey Jonathon, Just wanted to let you know that the magnifier set up like that is very much a thing, it's called the FAST™ FTC Aimpoint Magnifier Mount. Just wanted to let you know
The hybrid sight is based on the Unity Tactical Flip to Centre magnifier mount. The real world version only works if your red dot is on a riser so you only get a neck weld.
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Ha, "neck weld"! Thank you.
Most games do wood grain texturing via bump mapping, which is essentially a lighting trick to make things looks more 3D using luminance. If you want the actual geometry to change they could generate a heightmap (texture that describes height values) and generate some sort of tessellation(additional geometry) on it when your holding on to it. This would essentially do what your thinking of and create the wood grain geometry. Issue is it ends up using a lot of performance for something that doesn't look all that much better than bump mapping. Generally flat textures do well with bump mapping, and its not until you look at the contours that your realize the geometry is flat.
Man I would pay lots of money to have any kind of gun education class with this man as my teacher. I wanna go to Royal Firearms museum just for a chance to see him!
only mistake i heard was the first machine gun is not the xm250. it is in fact the mg338 which was looked at to replace the m240 series of weapons and even possible the m2 browning.
For the hybrid sight magnifier. It's called a unity mount and they are very useful. Been around for a couple years or so
An AUG being called "a vintage piece" really gave me perspective into how stuck in the past my perception of guns is.
14:21 flip-down/up magnifier:
Unity Tactical FAST mount comes to mind. Used specifically with a 2.26" height red dot, which is itself set at that height for better passive aiming with night vision. Mounting a red dot that high allows one to see over the magnifier when flipped down and means the magnifier isn't jutting out to the side of the weapon and possibly getting caught or damaged.
"A pane of glass with prevent thermal imaging" Actually that's true in the game. I finally tried out one of the thermal scopes, and I had to break a window to be able to see through it with the sight. It was really cool, actually, lol.
I ❤ Jonathan.
The RAAL is the Sig MG338, big brother of the M250, it’s chambered in 338 Norma Mag, designed to be a man portable LMG with range and anti-material capabilities of the Ma Duece.
Basically it's the M240B equivalent to the XM250's replacement of the SAW.
It would be really cool to see Jonathan react to the guns of Receiver 2, the attention to detail in that game is crazy
Fun fact, in the sniping mission (I can't remember if it's still named all ghillied up or not but the remake of that mission) when you're on the roofs throwing gas in the air vents if you look through the windows in the top of the roof w a thermal scope it doesn't work since thermal won't work through glass
I’d love for Jonathan to look at the guns from James Bond nightfire ….. I remember always loving the options in that game as a kid
7:51 what I appreciate most is seeing the scale of these weapons and their components
“This is a vintage piece. As… all of our stuff is. Cause… we’re a museum.”
Protect this man no matter the cost
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There are a few mounts for magnifiers that let you flip it up and down. Meant for guys running really high risers on their optics for shooting under nods
Jonathan, Unity tactical makes that flip down magnifier, FAB defense also makes one that puts a magnifier below the optic for storage but that one is kinda like an elevator.
The scar handguard extension is real, I think the point it to mount a peq2 box on top so you can manipulate it with a pressure pad or extreme forward grip. the peq2 has its controls laid out in such of a way that it wont be interfered with by the gas block but also doesn't add bulk or snag points to the gun.
The flip down magifier on the SCAR is a real world design. It’s the FAST magnifier mount made by Unity Tactical. It’s a magnifier for a hight mount optic for use with night vision and upright head position.
I like the idea that if the zombie apocalypse were to happen, people would flood to the Royal Armouries and Jonathan would be like a king of the new society.
Dont think it would last very long, not like the museum keeps a large stock of reserve ammo, you'd definitely go there to get guns tho
14:20 the flip to center magnifier and red dot combo has been done in the real world as the UNITY FAST mount which are made to offer a higher cowitness over a absolute co witness often found on other optics and they have come quite popular in the civilian world in the US because of new shooting stances that offer your head to be more upright instead of digging into your stock for a cheekweld everytime you aim in a close range situation like a competition
Love the content and Jonathan is an awesome dude. I wanted to add some information to the rail system post gas block on the SCAR. The lower profile height here is intended as a platform for LAM/PEQ/MAWL devices that would normally interfere with optics or sight profile if mounted on the same plane as the monolithic rail. I have a PEQ-15 on mine for NV IR laser aiming. It sits down out of view and decreases issues you would normally get if you were to side mount those type of devices (as used to be the trend).
"We don't specialize in guided missile systems, but WE DO HAVE ONE."
*Camera pans over to the Hwacha*
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The hybrid mount on the scar dmr is based on the unity mount for magnifiers. It stows down instead of off to the side. They're made to work with all of their unity risers which are 2.25" high, except the Eotech riser of course.
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there was like a certain FLIR setting i remember some of the USCG aviators i used to work with that they said was sorta like a "low-power" infrared that could kinda see through glass a bit. basically if you think of the light spectrum infrared is a section of that spectrum that sits "below" visible light (less energy/radiation). iirc (i was not an operator of this equipment, just an IT girl that helped maintain some of their training systems) this basically was looking at the lower end of the visible light spectrum and the upper end of infrared simultaneously and so was able to kinda see through glass.
just remember tho i am not an expert in this field so i could be misremembering a lot here, i encourage others to look into it if you're interested.
Pulling up the rocket launcher like a GOAT firearm's keeper
Please Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons. (Please like the comment so gamespot can finally see it)
So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video that isnt just more call of duty or tarkov (as much as I love those series) it just feels stale now revisiting the same games for multiple videos.
The RPK in the game seems to be modeled and textured after some batches of AES-10b (Romanian semi auto RPK clone), imported into the US in the late 2000s. They were made from surplus guns on a new receiver that's been phosphated (similar to the WASR 10/63). The originals were late production (generally 1978-1989) with no mag dimple and squarer looking laminate wood with noticeable nails for reinforcement. The wear on the wood is identical to a bunch of stock sets. The color does look more red/darker on the in-game model, though.
About the hybrid optics, those are real! Unity Tactical makes a FAST mount that stows the magnifier away below your raised optic, they're pretty neat.
Well, peel my tangerines, that HK33, what a rare and beautiful bit of history. Never seen one in that configuration before.
14:42 that optic is based off the US army’s Enhanced Night Vision Goggle-Binocular (ENVG-B)
It uses a fusion of different IFF /infrared imaging. The real thing is t an optic but a whole system of goggles… what you see looks like something from tron. It’s insane
I saw a small documentary about that tech it uses AI and other technology to find outlines in the surrounding apperantly it was originally made for fire fighter to be able to see through thick smoke
The Flip-to-Center magnifier (FTC) is made by Unity Tactical, they make various FTC mounts for various Flip-to-side (FTS) magnifiers, namely EOTech, Aimpoint, and Vortex Optics
The hybrid sight on the Scar DMR is really closely modeled to the unity mounts for magnifiers. Took me a while to spot it
I'd love to see him react to Black Ops 2 seeing as that game was considered futuristic but were only like 1 or 2 years away from the setting itself
6.11 good lord that is gorgeous, I pride myself at being an hk connoisseur but I have never seen an hk 33 fitted with an almost m16a1 m203 handguard
It might have been mentioned but the flip up and down magnifier is a real thing. Unity Tactical makes the Flip to Center mount for magnifiers.
The flip magnified thermal is a fictionalized Steiner thermal holographic with a magnifier on the unity tactical FTC (flip to center) mount. These are paired with unity risers for aimpoints or eotechs typically to reach a carry handle optic height for ease of passive use with NVG. The ability to flip to center is a secondary benefit of this system.
Hey GameSpot,
I would love to see Jonathan Ferguson reacting to the weopons of Enlisted. Enlisted is a hyper realistic WW2 shooter and I think they did one of the greatest jobs at modeling the guns.
Another great video, Jonathan! Thank you!
The flip up magnifier/ red dot you see at 13:30 is a real magnifier. A manufacturer that comes to mind is Unity Tactical. They don’t make the optics but they do make riser mounts for optics and magnifiers. I personally have one for my EOTECH holographic sight and 5x magnifier. I would recommend this to anyone in me market for a high quality optic mount.
The flip-to-center magnifier was created fairly recently by Unity Tactical. It requires a specific mount or rail riser to pair with standard red dot and holographic sights.
Basically this entire series is me seeing guns i would never think could possibly exist and then jonathon pulling it out of his backpocket
My dad’s poor, poor, Citori… what have you done to it Dave?
3:35 it's no battlefield but suppression is an effective tactic to keep heads down, especially on larger maps it's a good way to pin people while your team flanks
Jonathan has been strangely protected from cursed guns on these MW2 reviews, I fear the next one won't be as nice to him...
On the topic of the magnifier flipping down instead of out- they do exist, as of the past few years, one specifically I know of is the unity FAST mount for an aimpoint magnifier, I'm sure other brands offer that type of flip mount aswell. Typically for micro magnifiers.
The magnifier at the end does exist in some capacity sans the thermal capability, that is completely fictional, thermal magnifiers do not exist.
The magnifier though is relatively new and is called the Unity FAST Flip-To-Center (FTC) and is made to be used with other risers also made by Unity. Those setups using such furniture (without the thermal) do exist in-game as well.
A comment I’d like to add about thermals is that I am so glad they’ve gone for the thermal outline approach you’ve seen recently with the new army ENVG’s (thermal outline as a mode isn’t new at all, we’ve had them since 2006 with PSQ-36’s they’ve just been kept hush hush very well for a good while) as opposed to the previous thermal basic solid modes. The effect is definitely the best seen in any game.
Re Thermal View: Sodium Lime glass specifically is the issue. Plastics/Polymers vary between the exact types. Quite a few also block it, but for example HDPE (Polyethylene) can be used for lenses, as it is largely transparent to some frequencies of IR. It is however rather opaque for visible light (Thats what those white domes on motion detectors are.) Another option would be quartz glass, which is the typical choice for IR transparent glass.
This is Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery and here he is admiring wood.
The “flip to center” is made by Unity. It’s for optics that run their FAST riser. Since the main optic is taller, the magnifier can be stowed at the bottom instead of obstructing the peripheral and making the firearm “wider”. As for a thermal magnifier, I’d think that’s just COD logic
John: this museum doesn't focus on guided missiles
Also John: But we do have one!
The flip to center optic is a real thing. Unity Tactical makes a magnifier that the thermal sight is clearly based on.
on wooden furniture details: there is a thing called normal maps
its used in pretty much all modern aaa games to both bloat the game size and add depth to the texture
normal maps make textures appear deeper by making the parts of it sort of droop in
looking from the side it will still be flat but it now light bounces around, showing the bumps in the newly created deeper textures
modeling all of it is still possible but would take more time to texture it
and model ends up having more triangles, making it weigh more in terms of model file size
i love to spread misinformation online
The mount for the optic on the SCAR looks to be based off of the Unity Fast mounts.
They mount the optic over 2in off the rail so the magnifier can flip to the center.
as a someone who works with textures instead of modeling the grain we would use a normal map or height map for those details for performance reasons
Weird thing that Jonathan didn't comment on with the Browning Citori, is that despite chopping off the barrel to the length of the foregrip, they rethreaded the barrels and reinstalled the chokes.
I have a buddy who has a magnifier that deploys vertically, I cant remember the brand, but it requires a Unity high riser with his aimpoint to operate effectively. It is a really smooth transition and much easier than the flip-to-side magnifiers
Small correction here, the raal is not the xm250 but rather the sig mg338
The hybrid sight system where it goes below the optics window is a unity fast mount. It’s not a new system but it’s quite brilliant
UNITY magnifier mount has the feature of magnifier going in vertical position rather than pulling it to the left/right side. CC: Jonathan :)
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the flip down to center mount is real, the magnifier mounts made by Unity Tactical are that way
The hybrid flip down magnifier is a real profit from Unity Tactical! Called the FAST Magnifier mount, it’s touted as being less of a snag hazard compared to a flip to side magnifier.
Re Pseudo-monolithic Upper on the MK-20: That's a vague depiction of a Kinetic MREX or maybe a PWS SRX rail extension, it doesn't really look like either one. The purpose would be mounting a laser module on the top rail and have it flush with the rail of the upper receiver, staying out of the way of an optical sight. This can be customized and represented in Escape From Tarkov.
I would love to see Jonathan take a look at some weapons from the Ghost Recon series. I played a ton of the early games (up through the first Advanced Warfighter) and there were always some interesting weapons. The XM8, OICW, SA80, AN-94, and DP27 all appeared in either Ghost Recon, Ghost Recon 2, or Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (sometimes more than one!).