Original Dragon Ball: Complete Series REVIEW (ft. Team Four Star): The 23rd World Tournament
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- The Original Dragon Ball series & 23rd World Tournament arc is a story I wanted to review for years. And with the release of the new film upcoming and off the back of some stunning news from Dragon Ball Super's manga... I think now is the perfect time for me to shine a light on the most criminally underrated and impressive section of the Dragon Ball story. Today we cover the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai material PART 5!
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No one has seen the beginnings to Goku's journey with the likes of Roshi, Bulma, Oolong, Yamcha, King Piccolo, Tenshinhan & Chaozu and I think it's about time we changed that!
MUSIC USED:
-Mount Paotzu (Path to Power)
-Makafushigi Adventure! (Orchestra Cover by Sebastian Angel)
-H19 - Full of Danger (DB)
-I29 - Setting Out (DB)
-M13 - Severe Training (DB)
-M317 - Karin of Karin Tower (DB)
-The Brink of Time (Chrono Trigger)
-M107 - 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai (DB)
-M109 - Assassin Tao Pai Pai (DB)
-i21 - Boogeymen All Over the Place (DB)
-M9 - 21st Tenkaichi Budokai (DB)
-B3 - Sexy Gal Bulma (DB)
-M303 - Terror of Piccolo Daimaoh (DB)
-M313 - Fated Confrontation (DB)
-M312 - Kame Sennin's Final Mafuba (DB)
-M441-1 - 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai (DB)
-M505 - Fated Confrontation (DB)
-M516 - Chaotic Tournament (DB)
-??? - Full of Danger (DB)
-M517 - Goku Strikes Back (DB)
-M518 - Fated Confrontation (DB)
-M501 - Terror of Piccolo Daimaoh (DB)
-Piccolo VS Freeza (Cover by Android Orchestra)
-Upa's Theme (Cover by Paco Mitos)
-Kanashimi No Ikari no Ora (Path to Power)
-Grand Finale - Shinpi no Shikara (Path to Power)
-Romantic Ageru Yo (Piano tutorial by Piano Click 2)
0:00 - 1:59 - Intro
2:00 - 5:37 - Training with Kami
5:38 - 7:12 - 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai
7:13 - 9:06 - Qualifying Rounds
9:07 - 23:14 - Quarter Finals
23:15 - 30:58 - Semi Finals
30:59 - 38:14 - Finals
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Absolute PROPS for not missing the popo opportunity! Although I know you have nothing to prove in doing so, you’ve made the fandom proud 🥲.
I know I’m late on saying this but can you review some of the Jojo Spin offs like Rohan kishibe ova and live action the Jojo part 4 live action movie (trust me it’s better than it looks as well as the part 3 ova if you don’t mind.
I'm glad Piccolo Jr. Is getting his time to shine and getting the attention he deserves! To me he is still the greatest Dragon Ball character in the entire mythos! Thanks for giving him his cred and dues! Greatly appreciate it!
You had a lot of fun with these ads didn't you?
TFS: for thousands of years i laid dormant. Who has disturbed my-
Mark: Hey Best Buddies
TFS: Oh, it's you
I dont want this to sting, I forgive you anything, you Monster.
i love this comment 😂😂
Cringe just like tfs
@@veryangryboi4128 correction : cringe in your opinion
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand back to dormancy they go
Enjoy the climb back up!
First rule of Popo's training: Do not talk about Popo's training.
“Bitch!”
@@pj_spirit you beat me to it
Pecking order
That. Was AWESOME!!!
The big disadvantage of watching Z first is that you don’t feel how big of a deal it is when Goku and Piccolo team up.
Or even Goku dying for the first time and Krillin and Chaotzu the second time, which would have meant they could not have come back under the old limitations. Not to mention Goku realizing he can become a giant ape as well and how that tied back to killing his granpa unintentionally or even being him and piccolo being aliens proper....wow, DB really puts a lot of moments like that into an interesting perspective compared to watching Z in isolation....
@@motherplayer Yeah...That's because Z is a sequel...
@@MonkeBrain07 Oh really? Hadn't noticed.
@@motherplayer Gotta love that sarcasm. Well played.
My entry point of dragon ball was Z
And after I found the og dragon ball, a lot clicked and the team up felt much more grand imo
"Are you God?"
"Not the one you're looking for."
TFS Popo sass will never NOT bring a huge smile to my face.
It makes me cringe
@@veryangryboi4128 you make me cringe
@@Omxga7 me too
Good then let us establish the pecking order
It also makes sense from a certain point of view. There’s a lot of minor gods (kami) in Asian folklore, often of a singular object like a mountain or rock, so it would make sense if Popo was one of them.
Oftentimes the only difference between kami and yōkai is the latter tend to be more benevolent.
Damn, Tao Pai Pai really went to the wrong scientist to turn him into a cyborg. He dumped his entire fortune just to get his ass kicked by a pre-DBZ Tienshinhan, when Dr. Gero totally would've done it for free if he knew it was for revenge against Goku, and done a way better job.
Maybe he did and this is how Dr. Gero got the funding for future projects.
@@egeorgiades93 so he scammed him
Maybe it was Gero given Tao had briefly worked under the RR Army and it was early days so he didn't have the capabilities to make him 17/18 level at the time.
I am pretty sure he actually went to Dr Gero (he worked with the Red Ribbon army and who else builds cyborgs?), Gero just wasn't in the same level as when we get to know him
Given the gap in power between 8 and 17/18, it still could’ve been gero
Best quote in this arc:
Goku: You missed my vital organs.
Piccolo: ALL OF THEM?!
Piccolo made sure to study anatomy before the fight with Raditz
He sould have no Lungue, or Heart after that big of a Hole.
Lmao. I was kind of sad to see Mark not mention this.
AHL ORF DERM?!
@@Sunaki1000 the heart is slightly located on the left of his body, so either Piccolo was like .5 centimeters away from Goku's heart, or Goku's plot armor just solved it.
The best line in the series Goku: "You missed my vital organs" Piccolo: "All of them?!"
LOL
I love the throwback to this when Team Four Star did the Frieza fight.
"I need to protect my most vital areas!"
*Frieza's tail wraps Goku's neck*
"My neck! Thats my most vital area!"
*ORR OF EMM?!!?!?*
Stupid dub line
@@dbog5214 I think your stupid if you think that's part of the official dub
@@thelastmastergamer2846
It was part of the english dub mate.
I really wish modern Dragon Ball would use creative wacky ideas like the footed kamehameha. It's just interesting seeing characters do things I never would've seen coming and things that emphasize their unique ways of thinking in combat.
Dragon ball now just highlights hair color chamges and its unfortunate. Can't wait for granola to be a main character and become goku's friend.
@@josesosa3337 granola is better with oatmeel
Dragon ball has unironically become a parody of itself. It now actually has become the show where they scream and fight for no reason
@@bipstymcbipste5641 that was Z... where almost an entire episode could be someone shouting while powering up and a battle that could only last for 5 minutes was a 2 hour long punchfest
@@alexanderzack3720 cell power up
Bringing Team Four Star in for that scene was so epic that I want to see them adapt the entirety of Dragon Ball now! Kudos to you sir.
Ayyyyyyy, the best react channel! Fancy seeing y'all in the comments!
Fucking normies loving on team fourstar after no buu saga? Lol I kid. I never payed them money.
They totally could do it, it would be soooooo good.
I literally stopped in my tracks, took a moment, and then started shouting once it clicked that Mark got us just a little more tfs 😭 ty
I can't agree more
“Good… than let us establish the pecking order”
I miss dragon ball z abridged
We all do…
Me too I wish there was a buu arc
I don't I'm glad there gone
@@veryangryboi4128 Probably for the good tbh. We've seen what happened to shows when they go on for too long.
@@veryangryboi4128 why?
No matter how many years DBZA has passed, TFS always delivers comedy gold through their lines and voice acting.
If only their influence didn't hurt Goku as a character...
Man, i started crying at the end.
The OG dragon ball manga meant so much to me growing up, and this arc has always been my absolute favorite.
Toei: *Blocks og DB Review videos.*
Mark: *Invites TFS to the last Review video*
The balls.
Mark: You underestimate my power
Man TFS dragon ball z abridged is great I hope this video doesn’t get taken down
Seriously though, TFS had to go through this too, i think it was also partially why they ended their abridged series
Made me think that that was why it got taken down, since Toei seems to hate TFS.
I blew up with excitement seeing my favorite reviewer serious
My favorite part of all dragon ball
And my favorite DragonBall parody people all at once
TFS: *does a scene from OG Dragonball*
Me: *Don’t do that, don’t give me hope*
It’s not anything from the Buu saga, so there is no need to have hope.
@@iantaakalla8180 tfs doing the original dragon ball series would still be epic
I hope they don't return
@@veryangryboi4128 I hope you keep your mouth shut. Trolls dont deserve to live.
@@Wyld92 This made me laugh so hard. 😂
There's two scenes I watch over again. One is a little odd but it's raining and Goku shows up for the tournament and nobody recognizes him because he's changed so much. Goku says something like: "Bulma what's wrong, your lips are bleeding "
Bulma: "that's lipstick you idiot"
Bulma: "it is goku" 😂
I love that whole scene because it really does signify an end to an era. Goku will never be a kid again (GT not withstanding).
The other is the goku vs tien fight. Amazing and hilarious. Goku gains speed and embarrasses tien by quickly snatching his waistband. I could go on an on. Honestly there are just so many classic moments here. A phenomenal end to the series and these reviews.
That scene in the rain before the tournament is one of my absolute favorites. I always rewatch it from time to time, as well, even if I’m not watching the whole series. There’s something relaxing about it.
Also low-key might be the best bulma has ever looked imho.
Didn't that scene with Bulma have her saying something to herself like "I definitely picked the wrong guy" while she's eyeballing Goku? Some reason I remember that from the anime (with English subs) because I had to replay it more than once to make sure that's what I just saw
@@fistfullofglass I think in Dragonball she only said he turned up very handsome. In the Frieza saga while in Namek, she said something along the lines of "I missed my chance" referring to Goku marrying Chi-Chi . Unless the dubs in my language messed up that part.
@@fistfullofglass yes
Bulma indeed found Goku handsome and may have even asked Goku to be his boyfriend but Chi Chi married him in the Tournament
This arc, up to the end of the Frieza arc is to me the peak of Dragon Ball. Also noticed just how much this video showcases the degradation of Goku's intelligence seen in Super.
Yeah Super turned Goku into a belligerent moron for some odd reason
Goku in Super seems too much like the Abridged version. Goku is simple, but he's not unintelligent. I showed my Fiance Dragonball all through GT and Super, even she noticed that his writing is the least consistent in Super compared to the other series
@@richborn6700 Yeah I think super is just meant to be taken way less seriously since they know the show can’t really go anywhere interesting story-wise. Fun fights, wacky situations, slice-of-life is what they do now.
Tbf, in Super the only villain is Freeza, Moro and Black. The stake also aren't that high especially when they make change in potara and make Gogeta canon which give last option if anything goes wrong.
Super is just there to sell merchandise. It is pointless
“Are you god?”
“Not the one you’re looking for”
Had me DYING
😄true popo
The Piccolo vs Krillen fight also lays the ground work for their relationship in Z. Those two worked alot together in Z and Krillen was always someone who Piccolo respected and trusted in. Krillen was one of the first Z warriors to trust and rely upon and understand Piccolo. Their friendship is underrated.
One could say it’s underexposed more than anything
Truly! I think what makes their connection great is that they are both cunning fighters, and seeing them work together in the Saiyan Saga was a treat!
Having watched Z first, I just assumed their relationship formed from the fact that they’re the weakest fighters in the group
@@Zistheone2 What do you mean Piccolo and Krillin are weaker than Yamcha?
Gohan: am I a joke to you?
Popo telling Goku that he has too many wasted movement didn't sink in until the end of Super when he finally mastered Ultra Instinct.
And that honestly goes back to Popo's pupil Korin, who explores these ideas first but doesn't go as in-depth
Just goes to show that Popos natural state of being is ultra instinct
Honestly, this was VERY clear in the manga. Super anime is just weird...
@@carrot708 That's because Dragonball showed things without needing a huge light show.
I didn’t realize just how much I missed tfs’ dbza until I heard those voices again. I wish things weren’t as they were, but it will always crush me a little that we will never see a majin buu saga from them. Their work was phenomenal, and it clearly continues to be.
I'm glad tfs is gone I wish yall would shut up about them
@@veryangryboi4128 I’m glad you’re named after an overrated movie typical
@@mookiestewart3776 imagine not being smart enough not to respond to trolls. You'll learn one day, kiddo.
thats what HIFL is for
Did you hear? They're coming back. And on this channel, no less.
This was perhaps the Arc that really made what made dragon ball the way it was today, the amazing right scenes, the tension, the Charachter arcs, The peak of Gokus character when sparing piccolo, AND THE FIRST BEAM STRUGGLE,
This was one of the best Arcs in all of anime
The first beam struggle was in the 21st tournament between goku and Roshi. Granted, it didn’t last very long
Of course the right scenes are the best , not the left scenes tho
It's not the first beam struggle but other than that I agree
I honestly didn't know that the accent of Goku and Chichi was the same, because it's something that cannot be portrayed or shown as easily in the Spanish editions. I only knew Goku has accent when I started buying and reading Dragon Ball Super in English. However, the two hints I got for me to guess that the mysterious fighter was Chichi were first, the unfulfilled promise she kept talking about, and secondly, that her fighting style resembled that of the turtle school, as mentioned by Roshi. Which is brilliant because Gyūmaō (Ox-King/Ox-Satan) is the only one who could've taught her.
Yeah. That’s what clued me in as well when I first watched Goku vs Chi Chi via the English dubbed anime. When Master Roshi mentioned her movements being of the Turtle School, I was like “No way…” I had never seen Z at that point so I had no idea and when Roshi said that I instantly remembered Fire Mountain where Ox King said he trained alongside Grandpa Gohan as a student of Roshi’s.
interestingly the accent thing was not a thing in the german dub either but i was able to figure it out simply because, up to that point, chichi is the only named female character with black hair.
now obviously this would have been lost on manga readers, but the anime was very clear on that.
@@windhelmguard5295 I don't think it was in english either.
I know couple languages did it in manga translation and OG DB in japanese anime.
Goku till this day has this thicc accent.
Just listen when he talks casualy and he's making the end of the sentence longer than needed.
Also hard "R".
I would have loved it if Ox-King had been reintroduced into the 23rd Budokai as a spectator. Like if he journeyed all the way to the tournament grounds with ChiChi separately from her. It wouldn't be really all that important, but it would serve as an obvious clue to who ChiChi is to the audience towards the end of her match.
@@Kruegernator123 Plus it would have been really wholesome for Ox King to be cheering for his daughter, not to mention having Ox King bounce off Roshi as a character.
Legit started crying when I heard the dbza voices again. That series was such a huge love of mine when I was still in school. Made me feel like a kid again
Who's here after seeing them talk about episode 11 and 12 to see the Mr. Popo clip?
Yup
At 18:00 when you talked about Krillin growing, I really thought about how he reacted when he reunited with Goku.
When the group meets up, they all kinda talk about how much taller Krillin has gotten since they last met. And Krillin eats it up. Then when Goku is revealed and they see just how much taller Goku has gotten compared to Krillin, instead of focusing on that or even making a gag out of it, Krillin goes straight to embrace his old friend.
I think that's also because it's the first time Krillin has seen Goku since he died
Well I guess Krillin is just a bigger person
@@crazylalo11 true, that's a good point. But still, I'm glad the scene was written without that joke in it. It was right there and I totally expected them to make fun of how Goku once again got ahead of Krillin. Instead, we got a really good reunion of brothers.
Seeing how mystical and dare I say Holy the lookout is treated in its first appearance is always incredible. Shame its become little more than a glorified gym and club house
Nah
Sums up what Dragon Ball as a franchise later fell into. "Look how amazing and powerful "X" is, it's simply unbeatable!"
Next arc: "X" was weak and puny, this new foe is 100,000,000 times stronger!
Rinse and repeat.
Well when you become stronger than the supposed deities that live there lol
Its hard to keep the first time feeling for a short time, keeping that feeling for years is even harder
@@rvfharrier Lol yeah but I love Dragon Ball regardless
Nobody could've done it better than mark. He explained the entire db series in such great detail. He brought the lost spotlight back to dragonball. Im truly grateful to this man for re-igniting my lost love for dragonball
Someone could and did. Check Mistare Fusion and you'll thank me and perhaps you'll refrain from just making such bold claims
@@pascalsimioli6777 oh. Ive only seen mark's series and it was good so i said that. Ill definitely watch what you've recommended
I wish dragon ball had continued like that as a martial arts mystical adventure. As much as I love dbz, the power lever thing became kinda repetitive. And now with super you can tell the flaws of the “goku and vegeta” centric arcs where vegeta seems to get stronger but never strong enough for the newer bad guy. And goku comes to save the day. And all the old characters are arguably forgotten. I miss the grounded style of DB. Where finding the dragon balls was a difficult task and the goal!
This is why I thought at least the concept of GT was very strong. The characters are at a point where a global journey is trivial for them, but a universe-traveling adventure with a ticking clock element, going to all sorts of crazy planets? Fantastic concept to come back to. The execution leaved a lot to be desired, but I think on paper it was a great plan. Same with stuff like Super Saiyan 4 and the Shadow Dragons. Well, Super Saiyan 4 was cool in execution, too. And actually Baby was quite strong both in concept and execution, as well. But the search for the Black Star Dragon Balls itself had more misses than hits.
THe TFS thing at the beginning was such a welcome SURPRISE, And watching you revisit this entire arc from an analytical point of view was such a joy.
I've reread OG DB countless times over the years & each time I read it I love it more & more, from the Character usage, the comedy, and the Phenomenal Fight choreography which felt more Ill always Love DBZ but revisiting it as I'm olderm I see how kind of repetitive the battles become with the powering up and rapid fire fight choreography rather than technical martial art skill , but with Classic DB it remains tha GOAT to me & you put it into words perfectly. Outstanding work & cant wait for the next video
Hey jax
Wsp Jax
This man speaks naught but truth.
I can't wait for his next video either!!!......BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THE END OF TH GOLDEN AGE ARC!!!!
Eh OG is guilty with having repeated scenes,both fight scenes are even to me but as a series Z is far more better than original
"...is the single best arc in ALL of this series."
*Ha! Never heard that one before*
2:13
Thank you Mark and Team Four Star! We needed this!!!!!
Remember that scene where Krillin, Chaotzu and Roshi were brought back to life and Launch smacks Krillin's head in celebration? When I was younger, my older brother and I would joke and be like: "What if that slap killed Krillin again?" We would laugh our asses off.
That would be funny. A fakeout would be better. Like that seems to happen and you laugh and you turn the page and it just knocked him out.
Considering that a monster killed him who is stronger than a human.
And masakox gets more fuel...🤣
This arc is the arc that what makes me hail Dragon Ball as a legendary series. Not only that but it’s why to this day, Goku is my favorite character in all of fiction since I was a kid. Everything you mentioned in this video surmises that feeling greatly and I can not thank you enough.
You didn’t touch on this, but another thing that makes Goku’s victory over Piccolo Jr. so satisfying and epic is in that moment it’s revealed that he fucking FLEW. And I love how ambiguous it’s left as to if he learned it while training with Kami or just by observation similarly to how he learned the Kamehameha in an instant. It’s such an amazing moment in both the manga and the anime, but there’s also something symbolic about it that gets me emotional and represents Goku’s growth in the series in just a simple yet effective moment.
And the sheer amount of confidence Goku displays throughout the entire arc as a fighter just feels so inspiring. I have no idea how to describe it. Fucking love Dragon Ball forever.
Dragon Ball: Piccolo put a hole in Goku's chest.
Dragon Ball Z: Piccolo put another hole in Goku's chest and kills him.
That one hit all his vital organs
@@UltraZombie115 ALL OF THEM!?
@@rorcknar no, the db attack missed all of them
Fun fact, in the volume (vol 17) both of them happens
@@TheRedAzuki cool
Hopefully the other unavailable ones will be made viewable again.
The “Training with Kami” not-TFS TFS Dragonball scene is not something I knew I needed, but I’m glad it exists
Gotta watch before Toei yanks it.
The best Dragon Ball arc ever, in the entire series, hell yeah
Yeah
@Fax would you look at that, spam.
My favourite arc is the frieza saga but this arc is goated too
Debatable about it being the best arc but it's a great one
I prefer the 22nd tenkaichi ever so slightly, if for nothing else than actually treating Tenshinhan with respect and showing he was actually powerful.
I love how most of the time in this arc, Goku’s undershirt looks more black than blue. I also love the darker purple look for the DB/DBZ Piccolo gi, as opposed to the lighter more straight forward purple he wears in Super.
@Jannes Ebeling :|
I like the darker purple for Piccolo's outfit and the black shirt Goku wears too bad they don't keep those colors in Dbz after the Sayian and Frieza sagas.
@@Chaosic In the manga they were orange and blue, like in Z
@@madeinsonido really in the manga I did not know that thanks for telling me
Yeah Goku looks really good with black on his body... ironically.
Having just read through the original Dragon Ball, I couldn’t agree more. The ending of Dragon Ball was so hype 🔥
I like how the Piccolo/Krillin fight eventually evolves into mutual respect. Krillin was practically Piccolo's wingman in the Saiyan saga, the two of them understood each other perfectly and managed to fight off a much stronger opponent for quite some time, both of them delivering some decent attacks, coming up with strategies etc. They fought as a team, which is quite rare in Dragon ball.
i remember seeing Goku as a kid all grown up for the first time and that feeling i had when i saw him was insane... like a small brother looking up to his cool big brother, this saga has such a big place in my heart...
same I can't forget the panel where you see how tall he is
@A J yeah it's so funny how toriyama draw goku and krilin as chubby
I love how the only thing Piccolo Jr thinks he needs to hide to conceal his relation to King Piccolo is his antennae, and somehow it works for the most part.
"oh yes, a powerful flying green man with pointy ears and fangs literally calling himself 'demon junior' and dressed almost exactly like that guy who took over the world 3 years ago. nothing suspicious here"
*turban comes off*
"OHMYGODIT'SPICCOLO"
on some perry the platypus shit lol
I suppose it is Clark Kent syndrome :)
And it worked TWICE, under the SAME NAME
@@tiablue9106 that isn't parry that's just a normal platypus
Shout out to Team Fourstar for keeping this series alive all these years. These guys gave us all many laughs through the years.
The fact you got to bring in teamfourstar for this arc review just makes me even more hyped to rewatch dragonball. Thank you sir you keep doing the great work!
One thing that i think deserves to be mentioned is how Shen resembles Jackie Chun both through similarities as well as contrasts/opposites which i imagine had to have been intentional on behalf of Toriyama.
Both are really strong fighters hiding their identity through a visual disguise. Both fight with a variety of styles, starting out on the more silly side of things untill they get pushed and have to get serious. And they each have a fight with Yamcha in the quarter finals that have a similar structure to each other.
Taking a look at their designs next, i think they visually share a somewhat similar silhouette but once you get into the details, thats where you start to see the opposites.
Shen has black hair where Jackie Chun has white hair. Shen has glasses where Chun has none. Shen has a moustache where as Chun has a full on beard. Shen's primary color is white with accents of black and Chun's primary color is black with accents of white.
I think i might've had some more to say but i don't currently remember it so i'll leave it at this for now.
Come back when you remember.
The hairstyle and headshape
I know this sounds weird but, could possibly shen is more a different version of roshi's old master?
I feel this is more Toriyama being unable to branch away from initial dynamics between two archetypes. He does this consistently with all teacher/student relationships in addition to rival, romantic, etc ones. They all play out similarly. If it were a one or two time occurrence, then yes perhaps clever paralleling. But when its the same every time it comes across as a weakness of the writer (or laziness).
i like that shen means god in chinese so he's blatantly kami
You know Krillin was a badass in this arc when his only fight is against the main villain and he managed to land multiple blows and win Piccolo Jr's respect. The closest we ever see Krillin pull something off like this was that filler fight against Cell and a few small-scale fights during the Tournament of Power arc.
Piccolo just underestimated him, after declaration of showing true power by Piccolo, Krillin was defeated like one punch.
You and your Editor deserve so much praise in all your videos. This moment at 34:43 keeps me coming back here with how amazing the fight is along with the cover you guys chose. Amazing work! Love it all so much!
They Have Returned!!!!!!!!!
0:31 - *Predecessor, not prequel.
The 23rd budokai tournament is probably my favorite arc in the entire series country OG DB, DBZ, GT, and Super. The perfect combination of martial arts and the super powered techniques. I always enjoy going back to this arc and the 22nd as well due to the amazing fights and incredible fight scenes which has all but disappeared in the beat stick focused arcs of post Saiyan Saga Dragon ball.
One thing that came to mind when watching this review was that the concept of characters pointing out an opponent's weaknesses is very well executed with the character of Goku in Dragon Ball here. Like, this trope is used a lot in later manga and anime as a means of expositing the downfalls of an active character's actions and the reveal of what the reactive character's attack. Which honestly feels kinda forced and contrived in a lot of ways.
But in the case of Goku - at least in the original series - whenever he's addressed flaws, blind spots or weaknesses in his opponents, it's never been to hollowly exposit or reveal a counterattack. It's been to respectfully show others the areas they can improve in. Because Goku has always been a character who acknowledged virtually every opponent he's ever faced, and is also a very honest person both within himself and how he fights others. He wants those around him to be the best they can be, and one way he does this is by critiquing where his opponents may have slipped up.
When Goku pulls the "I have revealed your weakness" card, it's in an organic way intrinsically tied to Goku's character and his desire to see those around him get stronger, both physically, spiritually, and in the content of their character. Gotta admit. I didn't see this until Mark pointed out some interesting analyses on the characters, but man. That just adds to the list of things this manga was so good at setting the trend of.
I am so sorry about your other videos getting pulled Totally Not Mark. Your work was very much appreciated by me, hope it can come back.
Mark: "I brought in my good friends to help do this scene justice"
Me: "Yes..."
MasakoX: *Child Goku voice on point*
Me: "Yes...!"
Lanipator: *Flawless as ever with the Mr. Popo voice*
Me: "Yes!!"
*Popo punches Goku off the Lookout*
Masako: "WEEEEEE!"
Me: _"YEESSSS!!!!!"_
Donnie NO!
"VEGETA YESSS!"
I was curious IF they where going for abridge or fateful and when popo punched him I died weezing I no longer breath
That was the worst part of the video lol
@@veryangryboi4128 that's just like, your opinion lol
I literally clicked off of DBZ Abridged to watch this
*look Vegeta it's a pokeman*
Just to find more abridged...hell yeaj
Rule 34 of Popo’s training: popo is everywhere
@Suddenly stop
I just finished episode 60 again yesterday... I want them to do Dragonball.
2:54
It goes you, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, popo’s stool, kami, And POPO
This arc has always been a masterpiece I want to gaze back over and over again
Both the journey and world building leads up to a spine chilling fight scene that I can never forget
This is one of my favorite arcs in Dragonball. Everyone always points to the arrival of Raditz and the introduction of Gohan as the point where the series changes permanently, and while that is true in a lot of aspects truly this arc sets all of that up. The sweet chubby little kid we met all those chapters ago is now a tall muscular man. Our cast has grown up, all physical and also mentally. The fights have become even more intense and the plot more focused. Even stuff like Goku being an alien is introduced by us having to question the lineage of Piccolo and Kami when Kami starts speaking a different language. And then there’s the flight. What is perhaps the most iconic piece of the franchise moving forward, the high flying conflicts in the air it truly starts here. And with KRILLIN no less. When Krillin took to the air against Piccolo for the first time, only to have Goku adopt the technique at the last moment to secure the win against Piccolo. It may not be as flashy a win as a giant Kamehameha or a spirit bomb but MAN is that one one of the best. Even though the series put so much time to show us how impressive Goku is it still also shows us how his friends are still inspiring him and encouraging him to grow. I truly love this part of the series. Along with the Red Ribbon arc these are my favorite pieces of all of Dragonball. It is such a shame that so many fans out here in the west will never be exposed to this half of the series.
Oh yeah and I almost forgot to mention that TFS bit? *chefs kiss*
I adore tfs so much because during a time before super and after stuff like the budokai tenkaichi games they were there to fill up a spot of Dragonball content that was missing, at least for me. DBZA helped reignite my passion for the series, and it led to me rediscovering og dragonball. I am so happy to see them for what might be the last time (barring stuff like Cell in a Hell). Thank you Lani, Masako, Kaiser and one that is Not named Mark.
Mark: The 23rd World Tournament is better than all db arcs.
Picollo: ALL OF THEM?
yeah king piccolo, you're not that special
@@valentds I don't think you got the reference
Fuck you I spit laughing! XD
@@WolfXGamerful I think I know the reference I forgot
I got the reference 😂
Much love to everyone on RUclips that makes dragon ball content, I cry when ever I see anything dragon ball or dragon ball z related because of how big of a role it played in my childhood...
Must be doing a lot of crying
Good day, everyone here from the TFS 11-12 commentary!
Hello there.
Hello there
Tien is like the Cesaro of the DB universe. A guy that can give you a strong showing, but ultimately putting the main players over. No disrespect to either of them. They’re both awesome
Just the fact that he was a formidable fighter all the way up to semi-perfect cell says alot about him. Heck i wont lie, his cameo during the end of buu saga gave me a nerd b*ner
Both also screwd by the higger ups
@@Icehowl I love Tien too, but formidable up to Cell? say this to Nappa. Tien was put down by Toriyama from very beginning of DBz.
@@fkjl4717 Well, should have clarified what i meant with formidable. In this case I did not intend to equate formidable with "able to make any difference" ( I mean its not like he did any actual damage to cell either). But he did probably get some respect (or call it annoyance) both from Nappa and Cell. Like Nappa said: "That was a close one" (eng dub) after being hit be the Tri-Beam/Kikoho. At least he didn't go the way of Yamcha, or god forbid, Chiaotzu. :)
Man…hearing TFS again brought a freakin tear to my eye. It’s been so long. 😭
Enjoy waiting for more arcs abridged, b*tch
True though 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
True though 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I’m glad I was able to watch your review beginning to end before the parts got taken down. Can’t believe Toei would still take down a series of videos that praise the series
Why is he rolling over when he would clearly win the counterclaim?
Need part 4 back these videos are great!
When you fall of that horse you can do one of two things: Stay on the ground or get right back on the horse.
or the Goku option: Eat. That. Horse.
Mark, Your incredible for getting TFS to do a Popo. You truly understand the Pecking order.
Nah he ruined the video with that cringy ass clip
@@veryangryboi4128 either you're reaaaally underage, or you're looking for attention. Or both 😳
@@joshifghg I Know right. He cleary doesn't understand the pecking order
@@veryangryboi4128 And here we see an example of the very worms in the dirt Popo mentions in his immortal pecking order.
Can’t wait for the “jaco the galactic patrolman” review
Damn, whatever happened to part 4?
Really love your DB reviews, mark, but this one feels incomplete without the King Piccolo part.
For me this arc is peak of the entire DB series. Creative technics, good choreographies, humor, inspiring moments everything is perfect. Every character shined, Krilin's growth, Tienshinhan's facing his past, Yamcha's unexpected technic (still a really good move I love using FighterZ), even Tao got a moment and reached his conclusion. Maybe only Chao got short stick. Every fight is incredibly good even Chi chi vs Goku is good fight. Of course final fight is phenomenal, still one of my favorite one on one fight I've ever wacthed. After that no DB fight truly impressed me.
The Sokidan is such a clutch move in FighterZ. Can't tell you how many last second victories I've pulled with that move lol.
@@CinematicGalaxy I love Yamcha, he is my wild card, Piccolo is my pillar and gotenks is my ace.
@@nemesis3587 I have a lot of teams, but one of my favorites is Piccolo (pillar), Tien (ace), and Yamcha (wild card). Sometimes this same team, but with Krillin as the ace.
My mains are Tien Yamcha and Piccolo as well. That team does so much fucking damage with their supers it's unreal. All of them can spend at least 2 or 4 meter by themselves.
I still think it's a power move from Toriyama is if he can't make Goku a Adult the series ends it's interesting to say the least
He was super passionate back in the day, it kinda makes sense that he would quit if no one let him take things to the next level.
Popo’s laugh did it for me 😭
We've NEVER heard a Popo laugh that wasn't genuine amusement until now
Thanks for doing this series Mark. You and Editor-San make my days much more bearable. You're one in a million. ❤️
I'm glad Piccolo Jr. Is getting his time to shine and getting the attention he deserves! To me he is still the greatest Dragon Ball character in the entire mythos!
He was done so dirty after Cell
Without a doubt the best writen character in dragon ball history alongside Vegeta no wonder he is the creators favourite.
Piccolo Jr. is easily my favorite character in all of the series.
@@seefuud2839 u have the same favorite as toriyama
@@footballnotsooccer600 lol defo not vegeta
I never thought I’d see the TFS version of the PoPo introduction.
A surprise but a welcome one.
It's actually a clip from an older episode
I think this arc should be essential viewing for anyone who wants to watch Z because you can't fully appreciate Z unless you've seen this arc. This arc establishes who Goku is, how he got married, and provides a decent explanation of the status quo. You get to know all of Goku's friends, who is master is, and who the guardian is.
Plus, this arc establishes the dynamic between Piccolo and Goku. So much of early Z is built on uneasy alliance Goku and Piccolo have as well as Gohan's relationship with Piccolo and it's impossible to fully appreciate the magnitude of those things unless you see how much Piccolo hates Goku first. Because it becomes that much more impactful and satisfying to see Piccolo slowly change into a better person thanks to Gohan and the mercy Goku showed him. Like DB Super viewers wouldn't appreciate mellowed out Vegeta as much if they never saw how evil he was in Z. The same goes with Piccolo, you can't appreciate him being good unless you see how evil he was prior.
My favorite arc of this series ever. I particularly like when Piccolo and Kami speak (what we now know as) Namekian, referring it to it as a language of the gods. It's been a while so maybe that's not the exact way they put it, but I remember being awestruck when it happened. This is where Z should have began, bar none.
The fights in these matches were unparalleled and haven’t been outclassed by the fights BEFORE or AFTER
The fighting here is the best it’s ever been!
I see. So you woke up this morning and decided to speak facts
I’d argue goku vs vegeta (both) still outclassed these ones
But yea these were some of the most iconic fights and are definitely heavily underrated
@@Toothpaste0000 disagree. Goku vs Vegeta is great but not as good as the goku vs Piccolo junior bout. Set pieces from that fight were reused by the vs Vegeta fight
@@goldeneaglereborn piccolo vs goku might have use it first but i Will argue goku vs vegeta Perfect it
@@painvillegaming4119 Goku's fight with Piccolo had better back and forth in my opinion. Goku's Kaioken spam made the fight with Vegeta look too one sided even though it was tearing Goku's body apart to keep him close to competing.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is the best arc in all of Dragon Ball. I always hear people dismiss part 1 since it was never popular compared to part 2/Z.
This and the Saiyan saga are the best in terms of story.
@@mrboerger1620 Absolutely agreed there.
@@mrboerger1620 Absolutely I agree 100% Those two arcs are prime Dragon Ball to me.
@@mrboerger1620 I honestly pefer cell saga over those but I can see why
Dragonball's writing peak lasted from the 23rd tenkaichi budokai all the way to the cell arc.
So are you going to do the Saiyan, Freeza, Cell and Boo arcs like you’ve done for the first 194 chapters of Dragon Ball? I know you’ve got other videos discussing aspects of those arcs, but I haven’t seen any full blown arc analysis for them like this series and what you did with both Super and GT.
at this point he kinda has to. eventually
Just wtach Mistarefusions Dragonball videos he does every arc with way more detail.
So glad I got to see everything in this series before it got taken down. Good luck getting it back up Mark, your in-depth commentary and criticism more than justifies the footage used and you deserve to be able to share the results of all the hard work you put in
"It wasn't much of a fight. One hit and she just went down. Then we got married, I put a baby in her. Now she stays at home, cooks my dinner and raises our kid." *- Goku*
You know, when he puts it that way…
*BOOS*
@@yoda2824 "BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT!!"
sigma male grindset
"Suddenly reeeeally happy I don't go to public school"
Or something like that
_pecking order_
2:15 I was not expecting to hear this at all
😭😭😭 Thank you soooo much Mark for doing this series. I hope you can get you videos back up! You did a masterful job with this and couldn't agree more with all of your points. Bravo 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
when popo showed up i was like " abridged reference right?" But you went above and beyond, and every time i see his order i jump for a second then chuckle.
Mark… I kid you not… you legit made me cry emotional, nostalgic tears. For some context: I’ve been a Dragon Ball fan since I was a kid, my dad introduced me to the series and we started with the original Dragon Ball anime. I’ve since revisited DB and DBZ many times, even giving Kai a shot (I rather liked it) and last year, I started a rewatch of the Dragon Ball franchise, starting with the original DB anime… and I once again I was hooked to young Goku’s adventures all over again. A few months ago I subscribed to the Shonen Jump app and started to read the original Dragon Ball manga for the first time ever, I’m currently in the King Piccolo saga, and as much as I love the anime… there is just something special about experiencing the series in it’s original form, drawn and written by Akira Toriyama (albeit translated into English) and I felt like I had rediscovered my love of the original DB all over again… again… so when you started these reviews, I was curious about what you’d say… and you basically managed to sum up, into words why I love the original DB so much. I mean Z is great… but DB is a much better story with a conclusion that has everything great about the series as a whole packed right into it. DBZ will always be one of my favorite series with Super Saiyans, bombastic battles, and the amazing rivalry between Goku and Vegeta… but DB surpasses it in terms of comedy, philosophy, and storytelling. Both DB and DBZ is amazing, so it’s so sad to see DB got get the respect it deserves amongst the fan base.
Krillin: First rule of Popo's training, never question Popo's training.
Gohan: Krillin why are you cryi-
Krillin: SECOND RULE OF POPO'S TRAINING!!
Cringe like tfs
Lol
Says the kid with a cloudy of the chance of meatballs pfp
@@khalifrhodes9503 he’s cringe bait, ignore him please.
@@xavierbean5218 your right thanks man i just hate guys like this that just say something's bad dont explain and says its constructive criticism
Who else is here after the team for star video
Desperately trying to find part 4!
Hearing the breakdown of themes for the 3 World Tournaments just really highlights the contrast of the 25th in the grand scheme of things. Like, I still love the Buu saga, but man.
I actually finished reading this arc this morning in a library.
Thank you for making these.
The idea of this being a three-act storyline with the tournament is a clever idea. I think though, the first tourment is still my favorite. This one had much better well rounded fights, but I miss that feeling of mystery and not knowing everyone. I also miss the big monsters we saw at the begging like the bear or Giran. Also, the plot with Namu meant a lot since this was a good guy, trying to do good and not connect with out heroes. I do feel like Goku telling us not to worry made some of the fights kind blah. It is sad to see these chapter close out but there are big things coming. Thanks again.
Much love to you Mark, your channel is among my top 3 favorite RUclips channels! You are an exceptional talent and the crew you've amassed to put this entire operation together and bring us quality content by the week, are nothing short of amazing!!
Can we appreciate that, even despite the previous parts getting taken down, we're still getting new videos as apart of this review series? That's dedication.
It feels like Goku's concern for life and people was completely lost in Super. The respect he has for the universe, especially when asking for their power for a spirit ball, just isn't there anymore. He's just a single minded being focused soley on advancing and training, no longer as you put it "coming up with a solution no one thought of" just keeping punching until he wins.
Totally. Goku from DBS is just stupid fighting ass.
@@fkjl4717 He went back to Pilaf Saga Kid Goku, and Training with Roshi Kid Goku if you feel like it
@@Pablo-yu9mc well, we could just say that DBS Goku is the alternative Goku, original Goku was killed by Zamasu...anyway it feels bad.
@@fkjl4717 Og Goku is Goku black after GT and Super Goku is...I guess a clone made by Fat Majin Buu and how he remembered Goku
@@Pablo-yu9mc He is the Goku that never hit his head, but still naive as a grownup. Lust for getting stronger at the expense of others. The line hardly blurred if he would chose to fight for his own satisfaction or to keep the world at peace.
This Dragonball review series is probably some of your best content. This was such a joy to watch and I'm itching to reread some Dragnoball. Thanks Mark.
Wow that closing gave me chills. Thank you!
The smile Goku makes as Tien meets with him in the air to clash again is my favorite Goku moment.
I remember seeing the final season as a kid. It was exciting.
Yeah I remember watching this on Toonami and it was awesome to finally see the Goku vs Piccolo fight and the fights leading up to it.
Thank you for this beautiful journey and your remarkable insights about story telling. You literally reminded me why I want to draw stories. Love your work !