@barnabyjoy congrats that's the most boomer reply I have seen in years... To be fare we are of a similar age and if you don't think that Hornby is on a gouging session you are mistaken. Plus if kids can't afford to do it then it will just become more and more expensive because it can.
@barnabyjoy do you think hornbys quality has improved enough to justify that price... I have seen many reviews and I'm going to say no.... Either way it's not like we have a hardcore layout, we set up on the kitchen table as who can afford a place with space for a layout these days? But hey keep spending more and more I'm sure you can afford it.
What the heck's going on with Hornby??? I mean, making their own Titfield thunderbolt train pack when they DO NOT have the exclusive rights to the film property???? That's honestly disgusting... Rapido trains got there first Hornby, deal with IT! Can't wait to see how that pans out for them! XD please guys.. don't buy Hornby's Thunderbolt... It might teach them a lesson!
Nobody is fooled by the "Inspired by" prefix on the Titfield Thunderbolt train set. Rapido Trains have exclusive rights to produce said model, so its another case of Goliath stamping of David from Hornby. Thankfully, Studio Canal are known to be extremely litigious over their intellectual property and so Hornby should prepare for a big financial rap on the knuckles for this - and justifiably so.
Hopefully this will destroy Hornby once and for all and then allow a new company to puirchase what remains and make and sell stuff for a real price and not a price that is still bailing Hornby out of the Modelzone saga collapse some six years ago. I am not going to be ripped oiff. Another prodicer also charges way over the odds for their stuff after their model making arm ramped up the costs on them thus making that model rail coampy also rip us off to recoup their losses.
You were right. Both Trains on Film packs are no longer listed on their website, and the section discussing it has been removed from their 2022 announcement video. Good on StudioCanal for putting their feet down.
The prices are absolutely insane now, some great looking models but dont think I'll be ordering anymore. Real shame as that turbomotive looks fantastic but just way too expensive
It has nothing to do with Chinese workers getting more pay as a friend of mine has products made over there and they have not paid any workers, more for years. The price increases are more to do with the Modelzone saga some six years ago and another retailer ramping up their prices after their manufacturer in China put up the cost of making the models after they had signed the deal. Heljan are either just jumping in on the game or have been manipulated by a certain manufacturer to put their prices up so that they do not look like the only ones doing so. Either way I shall not be buying anymore as they are just become a joke regards prices. Stuff Calvex as well and Revolution trains. Its Dapol who stay real in terms of price and Accruscale due to their ability to produce amazing stuff for the money they ask
I see that, despite being a "completely independent" magazine, Hornby Magazine here managed to completely avoid any mention that Rapido are already producing Lion and the Titfield Thunderbolt set. I suppose Hornby thinks it can justify this by also marketing its Lion model as part of a set "inspired" by another film, albeit one that absolutely nobody has heard of. But at Hornby Magazine its just great news all the way!
I'm not surprised that the comments section is mainly negative, aimed at the bizarre prices but it'sa bit of a shame for the hobby in general. The annual Hornby range announcement used to be a time of great excitement. All modellers looked forward to it but, importantly, kids looked forward to it. OK, most kids couldn't run out and buy an A4, with a full train of coaches, but a mid-sized loco was achievable and then there were birthdays and Christmas. I wonder how many parents watched this, who aren't in the hobby themselves, but have kids who are. How many of those parents are going to punt £500 on a train for their 12 year-old's layout? Grandparents can be a "go-to" for a special loco but, again, how many are going to pay £250 for a toy engine? ££ - 𝑶𝒏𝒆 𝑯𝒖𝒏𝒅𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑬𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒚 𝒒𝒖𝒊𝒅 - ££ for a class 08 - REALLY? Come on Hornby, get a bloody grip!!
@barnabyjoy Rubbish !! Firstly, you don't need to spoil your kids to show love. But, how is that the smaller manufacturers who will pay may more due to smaller numbers, can turn out beautiful models, dripping with details(which don't fall off) at far more realistic prices? "Brain rotting nostalgia" - really? Does this apply to modern image modellers too? Does it apply to young adults? Or is it just aimed at the steam enthusiasts? Whoever you're aiming for, it's a ridiculous generalisation and a pretty sad opinion to have of those in the hobby. Presumably, when you lavish Hornby loco on your kids, just to show you love them, you're encouraging this brain rotting? I get the impression that you're more interested in arguing/trolling on YT than in creating a model railway - good luck with that.
Thank you for producing this video of the New Hornby 2022 range. As a modern traction modeller I am very happy with some of the announcements. It is unfortunate that two of our model railway companies are going to land in Court over the "rights" to producig Lion.
Class 802 4 car set for £500 but wait don't worry Hornby has you covered for the extra carriage.. possibly an extra £50 on top.... this is insane pricing... Hornby the local highway men out to squeeze every penny out of the pensioners funds
The Class 801, 802, and 803 train packs are daylight robberies. Five hundred quid for a 4 or 5 car train pack. I seriously hope these have some sort of interior lighting and amazing detail. I got excited for the TPE Class 802 but that £500 price tag put it all to an end. Better stick to getting a Class 91.
So it’s £45 for a MK1 coach these days is it? I’ll stick with my 1980s versions I don’t think anyone ever beat the Mainline MK1 buffet for detail since anyway 🤣
I was delighted to see the L M S Turbomotive 6202 on the list of new introductions. The images looked good however the tender revealed a glaring error . The Turbo and even when rebuilt carried a 9 ton Stanier tender which was unique in that the footsteps on the tender had both sides curved, not one side straight as normal on an ordinary 9 ton tender. Even after the Harrow crash the tender was reused and went behind 48134 still with the double curved steps .
Still a huge fan of Hornby, yet its impossible for me to afford any of the new trains. Would really much like to have the new class 800. But its way to expansive. The new Stadler train is too expansive too. Something need to change.
Yeah I love the class 800 I had to buy a set from Kato which is an n gauge But they are absolutely gorgeous models well worth it too for What you get, great detail, directional lighting and a 5 car set just for £178 I absolutely love it
@@teacoffee5847 Amazing! N gauge is sadly no option for me, as I already got an extensive 00 gauge layout. Wouldnt really want to tear down everything. Will maybe just buy used stock.
I wanted to know why don’t they dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so they extend the unused abandoned underground stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into six cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on that six cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXC, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers? A Stock Train and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it bigger and extend it to bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Train tunnel into a High-Speed train? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Train line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 37 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project that is OK for London Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build a brand-new underground train station so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street and also make another brand new tunnel train station in Chingford and could they extend the DLR? All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Six carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and they can order Every 17 Octagon and Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 117MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 117MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 16 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 16 Tonnes for all of the 117MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are Told!! And please do something about these very important Professional ideas Please Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
2022 is going to be a great year - really looking forward to the Accurascale 37s, Sutton’s 25 and a couple of extra Hattons 66s:-)) Sums it all up really….
There are plenty of beautiful wagons (Bachmann, Dapol, Hornby) on the second-hand market out there in shops and shows for £7-10. I built a rake of 20-odd vans for about the price of 7 new Hornby equivalents. £20 for a 5-plank is ridiculous - are Hornby mad? With the cost of living (food, petrol, heating) already well on the increase I imagine Hornby will soon learn its lesson - reading these comments is a pretty clear message.
I have the model GWR Hitachis,I noticed that the stripe on the side of the coaches are higher on the model but on the real Hitachis they are slightly lower.
Hi Mike, Mark & Richard. Will the new Railroad+ 110 DMU's have any lighting? Directional or interior? Also, has the Swallow HST lighting and will it only have a dcc socket in the power car as per the last batch of Railroad HST's? No info on Hornby website or anywhere else, which may be useful before I think about putting an order in ! Thanks & Rgds, Andy
‘Inspired by’ range? Rapido’s response to your Titfield spoiler is far funnier and lasts just 90 seconds! Why would anyone sit through over 100 minutes listening to this? Check out Rapido’s RUclips channel.
Gary Lloyd next door had Lord of the Isles back in the Sixties and it had a really good smoke unit which I’d never seen before. Gary was only seven years old, three or four years younger than I was. I really liked him. Sadly he died very young at seventeen. Seeing Lord of the Isles brings it all back🤔
If Hornby are investing in the LNER's Coronation service, I wonder if we can expect to see, The West Riding & the Spare. Perhaps in the future the Silver Jubilee??
ITS ALL GREAT - The Prices are getting Great too as in ASTRONOMICAL - After all we are all BILLIONAIRE COLLECTORS arent we. It will be just like SIMON SAID we soon only be able to afford the CATALOGUE and just look at the pictures How to destroy your customer base hey.
I've just watched Rapido's response to the whole "Thunderbolt" debacle on the Rapido Trains UK YT channel. It makes for interesting viewing, without slinging mud. I'm not going to voice my feelings here, or post a direct link; it's hardly Hornby Magazine's issue.😁
Not only are the prices through the roof,they are releasing multiple HST’s and MK3’s all between September and December!why would they not spread out the release dates to give people a chance to actually afford it 🤯
hi i Have a Mk1 Coach does the InterCity have a nem pockets i am soon geetinget R30177 RailRoad BR, Class 43 HST InterCity Train Pack - Era 8 does that have nem pockets too and the R30196 RailRoad Plus BR InterCity, Class 31, A1A-A1A, 31454 'The Heart of Wessex' - Era 9 also have nem pockets
I find it offensive that the sentence, "encouraging young people into the hobby at not beyond pocket money prices," was uttered. Who are these kids and why was my pocket money never measured in gold and diamonds???? Seriously though, the prices are OUTRAGEOUS. I feel sorry for these guys having to create a video in which they have to make it appear to be normal. So much of what is being said is a justification for why the prices are so high. I'm just....flabbergasted. Very sad times for the hobby.
Great video ...can you tell me when the actual catalogue is out as with your mag are you doing a deal like you did last year ..as yet have not seen in a shop ...cheers..some good stuff ..getting quite expensive now .
Hi, the Magazine goes on sale from the 12th January with the deal available in selected Tescos or via our website. Then available from the 20th at WHS.
Enjoyed the video a good summary of the new range, but concerned that some obvious livery errors were not picked up. Once again a Railroad HST has been afflicted with a black cab roof. Ironic really given the quote "Intercity colour scheme pretty much as it should be". Hopefully as was the case with the blue grey version it will have lost its black roof when it comes out. The NSE 50 also seems to have acquired black paint where there should be any, around the side cab windows.
Can someone please confirm if possible. The 800 series coach pack. Is there 2 or 4 in there. The description says 2 however the price says 4. Please help.
I don't mind Dublo being expensive. Those can be considered premium diecast models. It's their standard range being more than 250 which is making everyone mad
Hold on a minute "Hornby are always delivering on freight wagons". REALLY?. I collect modern and we have not had anything for years from them. Yet more KFAs with different containers is all they can manage. Thank god for Accurascale.
I understand How the PLAYTRAINS new offers are to get new modeler's onboard ... but unnecessary here IMHO 250 Pounds for a perfect British Railways Black 5 ... Oh yes indeed~
The steam generator is nothing new!! I had a Jinty with Syncrosmoke back in the 1970s, which I loved and adored!! I sold my early models to pay for my first REAL car!!
Wow what a great video, and what a great bunch of announcements from Hornby. On my pre order list are: Class 802 TPE Livery Class 66 DRS And pretty much all the Greater Anglia flirts (I have to with seeing these on a daily basis) I could be tempted by the Hornby Dublo night Gresley as well, but I've already gone well over my budget for pre orders 😂 Hope you enjoyed the new range launch and there's something there for all you guys at Hornby magazine. And great video as ever Cheers James
If canal plus sue for lots, thats the hobby completly out of reach when they push the Cost onto the buyer. Hornby will have to Close its doors for good.
Video Timestamps:
Introduction: @00:00
Play Trains: @02:47
Licensed Collectables: @09:04
Tri-ang Railways: @12:27
Train Sets: @17:36
Railroad: @21:44
Trains on film @29:42
Steam Locomotives: @33:50
Hornby Dublo: @50:54
Diesel and Electric Locomotives: @55:08
Coaches: @01:14:55
Wagons: @01:26:59
Something extra: @01:40:51
For the extras, do you know any places with the DRAX wagons still available to pre order?
@@learningoogauge3452 Check out local shops such as those in the video discription. :)
@@hornbymag it’s not there on any of them, also why did Hornby not unveil these wagons themselves is it meant to be some secret? Haha
Prices are insane!
They are.
Model making no longer open to the young.... rich Old person sport these days
@barnabyjoy congrats that's the most boomer reply I have seen in years... To be fare we are of a similar age and if you don't think that Hornby is on a gouging session you are mistaken. Plus if kids can't afford to do it then it will just become more and more expensive because it can.
@barnabyjoy do you think hornbys quality has improved enough to justify that price... I have seen many reviews and I'm going to say no....
Either way it's not like we have a hardcore layout, we set up on the kitchen table as who can afford a place with space for a layout these days?
But hey keep spending more and more I'm sure you can afford it.
@barnabyjoy yep this is why Hornby will keep charging more for lower quality items...
Prices are outrageous !
Jeez model trains is an elite hobby nowadays.
I buy most mine from Carboot sales
What the heck's going on with Hornby???
I mean, making their own Titfield thunderbolt train pack when they DO NOT have the exclusive rights to the film property???? That's honestly disgusting... Rapido trains got there first Hornby, deal with IT!
Can't wait to see how that pans out for them! XD
please guys.. don't buy Hornby's Thunderbolt... It might teach them a lesson!
Rapidos one will probably be more reliable too. I love older hornby but hate the new hornby quality
I might buy it tbh
@@TopHat78 you can't lol, they removed it from their range.. I wonder why
Nobody is fooled by the "Inspired by" prefix on the Titfield Thunderbolt train set. Rapido Trains have exclusive rights to produce said model, so its another case of Goliath stamping of David from Hornby. Thankfully, Studio Canal are known to be extremely litigious over their intellectual property and so Hornby should prepare for a big financial rap on the knuckles for this - and justifiably so.
Oh man, that should be good to watch if so!
Hopefully this will destroy Hornby once and for all and then allow a new company to puirchase what remains and make and sell stuff for a real price and not a price that is still bailing Hornby out of the Modelzone saga collapse some six years ago. I am not going to be ripped oiff. Another prodicer also charges way over the odds for their stuff after their model making arm ramped up the costs on them thus making that model rail coampy also rip us off to recoup their losses.
You were right. Both Trains on Film packs are no longer listed on their website, and the section discussing it has been removed from their 2022 announcement video. Good on StudioCanal for putting their feet down.
I said the same thing, Sam from Sams train informed me that my comments had been removed.
Get over it! Who wants one anyway!
The prices are absolutely insane now, some great looking models but dont think I'll be ordering anymore. Real shame as that turbomotive looks fantastic but just way too expensive
yes agree ,
It has nothing to do with Chinese workers getting more pay as a friend of mine has products made over there and they have not paid any workers, more for years. The price increases are more to do with the Modelzone saga some six years ago and another retailer ramping up their prices after their manufacturer in China put up the cost of making the models after they had signed the deal. Heljan are either just jumping in on the game or have been manipulated by a certain manufacturer to put their prices up so that they do not look like the only ones doing so. Either way I shall not be buying anymore as they are just become a joke regards prices. Stuff Calvex as well and Revolution trains. Its Dapol who stay real in terms of price and Accruscale due to their ability to produce amazing stuff for the money they ask
@@rowdyperson6393 I support my Husbands hobby and now its far too expensive to buy new trains
@barnabyjoy what ever , thanks for the patronizing reply , it wasn't needed
@barnabyjoy whatever
I see that, despite being a "completely independent" magazine, Hornby Magazine here managed to completely avoid any mention that Rapido are already producing Lion and the Titfield Thunderbolt set. I suppose Hornby thinks it can justify this by also marketing its Lion model as part of a set "inspired" by another film, albeit one that absolutely nobody has heard of. But at Hornby Magazine its just great news all the way!
I'm not surprised that the comments section is mainly negative, aimed at the bizarre prices but it'sa bit of a shame for the hobby in general. The annual Hornby range announcement used to be a time of great excitement. All modellers looked forward to it but, importantly, kids looked forward to it. OK, most kids couldn't run out and buy an A4, with a full train of coaches, but a mid-sized loco was achievable and then there were birthdays and Christmas.
I wonder how many parents watched this, who aren't in the hobby themselves, but have kids who are. How many of those parents are going to punt £500 on a train for their 12 year-old's layout? Grandparents can be a "go-to" for a special loco but, again, how many are going to pay £250 for a toy engine?
££ - 𝑶𝒏𝒆 𝑯𝒖𝒏𝒅𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑬𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒚 𝒒𝒖𝒊𝒅 - ££ for a class 08 - REALLY? Come on Hornby, get a bloody grip!!
@barnabyjoy Rubbish !! Firstly, you don't need to spoil your kids to show love. But, how is that the smaller manufacturers who will pay may more due to smaller numbers, can turn out beautiful models, dripping with details(which don't fall off) at far more realistic prices?
"Brain rotting nostalgia" - really? Does this apply to modern image modellers too? Does it apply to young adults? Or is it just aimed at the steam enthusiasts? Whoever you're aiming for, it's a ridiculous generalisation and a pretty sad opinion to have of those in the hobby.
Presumably, when you lavish Hornby loco on your kids, just to show you love them, you're encouraging this brain rotting?
I get the impression that you're more interested in arguing/trolling on YT than in creating a model railway - good luck with that.
Well done Hornby!!! Another year of rip off prices!! Well done!
@@Georgeconna32 Bachmann's prices have gone up too. And they're not much better either.
@@Frserthegreenengine Not as much as Hornbys!
Jesus CHRIST on Santa's slay - Hornby's prices I am amazed 🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️ At least Bachmann MAINTAINS their Quality with Detailing this is crazy
Just deal with it for God sake
Thank you for producing this video of the New Hornby 2022 range. As a modern traction modeller I am very happy with some of the announcements. It is unfortunate that two of our model railway companies are going to land in Court over the "rights" to producig Lion.
The owner of AGR Model Railway Store last week told me Hornby are raising all their prices by 10% from this February
@SamsTrainsIsRacist Shocked, I'm not shocked at all that prices are going up. Never said I was.
Class 802 4 car set for £500 but wait don't worry Hornby has you covered for the extra carriage.. possibly an extra £50 on top.... this is insane pricing... Hornby the local highway men out to squeeze every penny out of the pensioners funds
Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask.
@@andrewrice6596 😂😂😂 had me cracking up!
The Class 801, 802, and 803 train packs are daylight robberies. Five hundred quid for a 4 or 5 car train pack. I seriously hope these have some sort of interior lighting and amazing detail. I got excited for the TPE Class 802 but that £500 price tag put it all to an end. Better stick to getting a Class 91.
I also would have loved the TPE model but i refuse to pay these rediculous prices. I notice the Railroad class 66's have shot up £ 20 too.
I was so exited about the tpe 802 as I live 5 minutes away from the 802s but I'm 16 and can't afford it. I'm sticking with Bachmann stuff
Wow. These prices have pushed me out the market for buying new locos/trains.
that is what my Husband just said to me , at these prices he will not be buying any more
@@marciebalme588 Well he's missing out then
Well, I've been officially priced out of any new hornby steam locomotives.
yes agree , my Husband looked and said no priced out of the hobby
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Let me wish Hornby Railways a pair of happy anniversaries. I would add that my last purchased train set was Tri-Ang Hornby one as mentioned before.
So it’s £45 for a MK1 coach these days is it? I’ll stick with my 1980s versions I don’t think anyone ever beat the Mainline MK1 buffet for detail since anyway 🤣
I know. Hornby's Mk.1s were much cheaper than Bachmanns and now RRP wise they are catching up with Bachmann's (Bachmann's Mk.1 RRP is £55)
The last train set I actually purchased was a very old Tri-Ang set with a Jinty with Syncrosmoke, a track and two car transporter trucks.
I was delighted to see the L M S Turbomotive 6202 on the list of new introductions. The images looked good however the tender revealed a glaring error . The Turbo and even when rebuilt carried a 9 ton Stanier tender which was unique in that the footsteps on the tender had both sides curved, not one side straight as normal on an ordinary 9 ton tender. Even after the Harrow crash the tender was reused and went behind 48134 still with the double curved steps .
Personally for playtrains I'd love to see a steam engine as it would add that bit of variety
I wish I could afford some of these. The pricing has gone completely mad. £60 coaches with no lights😳.
Still a huge fan of Hornby, yet its impossible for me to afford any of the new trains. Would really much like to have the new class 800. But its way to expansive. The new Stadler train is too expansive too. Something need to change.
Too expansive? Just go n gauge
I'll get my coat now
Yeah I love the class 800 I had to buy a set from Kato which is an n gauge But they are absolutely gorgeous models well worth it too for What you get, great detail, directional lighting and a 5 car set just for £178 I absolutely love it
@@teacoffee5847 Amazing! N gauge is sadly no option for me, as I already got an extensive 00 gauge layout. Wouldnt really want to tear down everything. Will maybe just buy used stock.
I wanted to know why don’t they dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so they extend the unused abandoned underground stations.
Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into six cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on that six cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXC, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers?
A Stock Train and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it bigger and extend it to bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Train tunnel into a High-Speed train?
The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Train line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 37 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project that is OK for London Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden.
oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden Easily.
Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build a brand-new underground train station so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street and also make another brand new tunnel train station in Chingford and could they extend the DLR?
All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Six carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains.
Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and they can order Every 17 Octagon and Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 117MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 117MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 16 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 16 Tonnes for all of the 117MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are Told!! And please do something about these very important Professional ideas Please Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.
im going to be at school when this goes live
Its a shame that many items are not only out oif my price range but also not worth the money anymore
Great presentation as always - thank you. The Wagon section reminded me of QVC! Kept expecting you to offer “Easy Pay”. 😀
2022 is going to be a great year - really looking forward to the Accurascale 37s, Sutton’s 25 and a couple of extra Hattons 66s:-))
Sums it all up really….
HEY!! You forgot the rapido APT-E rerun.
@@Night-zn4ew And the Bachmann Class 69:-))
@@Night-zn4ew and the Rapido Thurnderbolt!!
No mention of the insane prices which very few people will be able to afford. Nice one Hornby Magazine!
Shocking Shocking Prices
All looks good, bit expensive for me mind, still want a good HST but me old ones with the CD motors and TTS sound will keep going yet!
There are plenty of beautiful wagons (Bachmann, Dapol, Hornby) on the second-hand market out there in shops and shows for £7-10. I built a rake of 20-odd vans for about the price of 7 new Hornby equivalents. £20 for a 5-plank is ridiculous - are Hornby mad? With the cost of living (food, petrol, heating) already well on the increase I imagine Hornby will soon learn its lesson - reading these comments is a pretty clear message.
I bought a second hand 2016 castle class 'spitfire' barely used and in box for £35. I ain't paying modern prices for locos
29:55 boy that segment aged like fine wine didn’t it
Very nice video you done like and share thanks DD.
I have the model GWR Hitachis,I noticed that the stripe on the side of the coaches are higher on the model but on the real Hitachis they are slightly lower.
When are all the 2021 items going to be available. I had 4 items pre-ordered and so far only one received (A2/3). very disheartening.
These fast steam locomotives are wonderful. The problem is that they cost so much!!
Like the look of the Black 5. I wonder if it has any diecast on the body...
Looking forward to adding more HST's to my collection 😀 would love to challenge you to fit them all on your layout ! Lol
"Maunsell dining saloons", did I miss the matching kitchen vehicles?
Hi Mike, Mark & Richard.
Will the new Railroad+ 110 DMU's have any lighting? Directional or interior? Also, has the Swallow HST lighting and will it only have a dcc socket in the power car as per the last batch of Railroad HST's?
No info on Hornby website or anywhere else, which may be useful before I think about putting an order in ! Thanks & Rgds, Andy
Yes , pricing is counter productive
‘Inspired by’ range? Rapido’s response to your Titfield spoiler is far funnier and lasts just 90 seconds! Why would anyone sit through over 100 minutes listening to this?
Check out Rapido’s RUclips channel.
Gary Lloyd next door had Lord of the Isles back in the Sixties and it had a really good smoke unit which I’d never seen before. Gary was only seven years old, three or four years younger than I was. I really liked him. Sadly he died very young at seventeen. Seeing Lord of the Isles brings it all back🤔
Class 31 old Lima tooling. Does that mean the old Lima ringfield type motor? Does the same thing go for 37, 40, 47 etc?
If Hornby are investing in the LNER's Coronation service, I wonder if we can expect to see, The West Riding & the Spare. Perhaps in the future the Silver Jubilee??
I wish the boss would introduce a BR Standard Class 3 MT 2-6-0, having tried to make the case for 77014….but so far no joy!
Thoroughly enjoyed the video, especially the hilarious pronunciation of clerestory. It’s pronounced CLEAR STORY
I'm not into this stuff, just randomly saw the video... £8 for just a platform?
And I thought Cocaine was expensive
50044 never carried black window surrounds in mk1 NSE - how difficult is that to get right?
Received my AZUMA two days ago so its not LATE 2022 its out NOW :)
forgot to mention about the "The Staycation Express Train Pack"
ITS ALL GREAT - The Prices are getting Great too as in ASTRONOMICAL - After all we are all BILLIONAIRE COLLECTORS arent we.
It will be just like SIMON SAID we soon only be able to afford the CATALOGUE and just look at the pictures
How to destroy your customer base hey.
I've just watched Rapido's response to the whole "Thunderbolt" debacle on the Rapido Trains UK YT channel. It makes for interesting viewing, without slinging mud. I'm not going to voice my feelings here, or post a direct link; it's hardly Hornby Magazine's issue.😁
Not only are the prices through the roof,they are releasing multiple HST’s and MK3’s all between September and December!why would they not spread out the release dates to give people a chance to actually afford it 🤯
I'll all be sold out by scalpers and pensioners by then anyway.
Just look at the Realtrack Class 142s, only making 200 of each, bloody joke
hi i Have a Mk1 Coach does the InterCity have a nem pockets i am soon geetinget R30177 RailRoad BR, Class 43 HST InterCity Train Pack - Era 8 does that have nem pockets too and the R30196 RailRoad Plus BR InterCity, Class 31, A1A-A1A, 31454 'The Heart of Wessex' - Era 9 also have nem pockets
Hornby have done smoke emitting locomotives. In the early 70’s the Princess Elizabeth railway pack had ‘steam’.
I find it offensive that the sentence, "encouraging young people into the hobby at not beyond pocket money prices," was uttered. Who are these kids and why was my pocket money never measured in gold and diamonds???? Seriously though, the prices are OUTRAGEOUS. I feel sorry for these guys having to create a video in which they have to make it appear to be normal. So much of what is being said is a justification for why the prices are so high. I'm just....flabbergasted. Very sad times for the hobby.
I TAKE IT BACK. GWR coach pack. There are 4. Great price and ordered.
Great video ...can you tell me when the actual catalogue is out as with your mag are you doing a deal like you did last year ..as yet have not seen in a shop ...cheers..some good stuff ..getting quite expensive now .
Hi, the Magazine goes on sale from the 12th January with the deal available in selected Tescos or via our website. Then available from the 20th at WHS.
omg the prices
Enjoyed the video a good summary of the new range, but concerned that some obvious livery errors were not picked up. Once again a Railroad HST has been afflicted with a black cab roof. Ironic really given the quote "Intercity colour scheme pretty much as it should be".
Hopefully as was the case with the blue grey version it will have lost its black roof when it comes out.
The NSE 50 also seems to have acquired black paint where there should be any, around the side cab windows.
These are all subject to change. :)
@@hornbymag hope so! Yes I've already dropped SK a quick email. He has confirmed the 50 will be changed and was going to double check the HST.
There is no plans for a 3 car blue? 110?
Where are the 2mt.s?
Rapido trains: announces Lion
Hornby: also announces Lion
Not cool guys
Is 44755 really a Caprotti? It looks like it has Walschaerts valve gear.
It was it Hornby have used an edited picture of a preserved loco with a different number.
Can someone please confirm if possible. The 800 series coach pack. Is there 2 or 4 in there. The description says 2 however the price says 4. Please help.
Love it.. I've just started my own channel for beginners
Will Hornby accept my house as a trade-in for their new models...........
Very detailed video, thank you. Quick Q, does the Railroad HST have directional lighting? Thanks.
Scot,
From memory, I think the power car with the motor in it has white directional lights only….
The powercar has always on white lights, the dummy car has none
Please be redoing the 142s and making more 156s
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined, happy about the retardedly priced Nova tho I suppose
Well best of luck with those prices, wont be selling any to me.
What's song is this
Hornby including Scalextric Slot cars pricing them out of existence - no justification for these high prices
This presentation could have been produced by Hornby's PR Department. A critical commentary would have been much more useful.
Each item will be reviewed in the magazine and have its own video, there we can be critical. 😊
Hello, which stores are tier one? I don’t know how to find them. Any help appreciated!
Public don't know, only Hornby and the retailer itself. Anyone who has the exclusives for preorder will obviously be tier 1
Hornby are being left behind like me running 100 metres going via McDonald's and eating in without using the drive through
Some awesome models😎...does Hornby not do DCC sound?
They do TTS sound
Hornby pricing themselves out of existence.
Railroad Class 37 ancient hornby tooling for £96??
55 mins in awesome retooled HST Class 43 but where is the new Intercity Swallow?!!!!!
The average family will not be able to afford model Railways
Don't worry - don't think Hornby has a long term viable future
So are they charging Club members for 2022 loco? Did I get that right?
Hornby Dublo range - a good excuse to add £100 to a standard Hornby loco…….
It's diecast rather than plastic with better adhesion and haulage ability.
If you can scratch build one of equal quality for under £500 go ahead
I don't mind Dublo being expensive. Those can be considered premium diecast models. It's their standard range being more than 250 which is making everyone mad
The Beatles class 73 should have been a 508, especially as it’s on its way out.
Hold on a minute "Hornby are always delivering on freight wagons". REALLY?. I collect modern and we have not had anything for years from them. Yet more KFAs with different containers is all they can manage. Thank god for Accurascale.
I understand How the PLAYTRAINS new offers are to get new modeler's onboard ... but unnecessary here IMHO
250 Pounds for a perfect British Railways Black 5 ... Oh yes indeed~
Don't hold your breath... still trying to release their 20/21 product.
The steam generator is nothing new!! I had a Jinty with Syncrosmoke back in the 1970s, which I loved and adored!! I sold my early models to pay for my first REAL car!!
Wow what a great video, and what a great bunch of announcements from Hornby.
On my pre order list are:
Class 802 TPE Livery
Class 66 DRS
And pretty much all the Greater Anglia flirts (I have to with seeing these on a daily basis)
I could be tempted by the Hornby Dublo night Gresley as well, but I've already gone well over my budget for pre orders 😂
Hope you enjoyed the new range launch and there's something there for all you guys at Hornby magazine. And great video as ever
Cheers
James
I fully support my Husbands hobby , but your pricing is way too expensive
"lights, sound, and smoke", a pity the promo models has a wonky smokebox door.
Pre orderd the p2 for £20 mire than you say on here from the website and now I think i have a dead bank account 😅
£264.99 for two 802/1 coaches! That's £132.50 each! No thanks. I won't be converting my 5 car unit to a 9 car now.
It makes no sense. In the 5 car packs the coaches work out at about £75 each. THIS MUST BE A MISTAKE?.
its 4 coaches in the pack, but only 2 are shown
Many thanks. Now seen the picture of 4 coaches. Description also says 2!?.
If canal plus sue for lots, thats the hobby completly out of reach when they push the Cost onto the buyer. Hornby will have to Close its doors for good.
black five with smoke wow
Wow another price hike after the increases late last year, there's a great way to put people off.
£20 for a re-released 3 plank wagon... is this some sort of joke?
yep it's joke that punters keep buying Hornby expensive goods
STILL no Electrostars!
Anybody know if the LNER coronation set of 9 coaches do they have lit coaches
Probably, the LMS coronation set had full lighting.
@@mattlander9119
I hope so
Not heard anybody say they are lit coaches