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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024

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  • @heywhatisnext
    @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад +7

    It was brought to my attention that the Unigine Heaven numbers weren't correct as the resolutions for each test differed. I reran the test at a 1600 x 900 resolution and graphics improvement was 44%. The discrete graphics test showed the FPS was 45.3 and the score was 1893. The built-in graphics showed the FPS was 31.3 and the score was 1311.

    • @J12RQ
      @J12RQ Месяц назад +2

      you are a very underated youtuber, i hope your channel blows up later!

  • @Yandarval
    @Yandarval Месяц назад +16

    For anyone wanting to rush out and buy an Elitedesk G4+. Triple check with the seller. As not everyone has the MXM connector for the GPU on the motherboard.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for watching. I appreciate your comment and information.

    • @Yandarval
      @Yandarval Месяц назад +3

      @@heywhatisnext I have a stack of Elitedesks of various kinds. Later versions can even have 2.5GB NICs as their Flex IO card option. Sadly not for a G4. Flex IO is the name of the port you took out to install the GPU. You will want version one if you go looking. As v2 and v3 will not work for you.

    • @leondeco4835
      @leondeco4835 Месяц назад

      35watt models havent

    • @marcusgurley9495
      @marcusgurley9495 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@Yandarvalthat might solve my problem! My 705 G4 DM won’t recognize the HDMI FLEX IO I installed

    • @BrentRWong242
      @BrentRWong242 16 дней назад

      ​@@Yandarval
      Thanks for this info!

  • @adrianh85
    @adrianh85 6 дней назад +1

    I like this video, have a simular setup.
    Have a Dell 5070 extended with a AMD 6400LP.
    Surprised its runs so well, tested it with some gaming. Didnt expect a j5005 to be able to game with 10 wat tdp and only 8 pcie 2.0 lanes and 45 watts for the gpu.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  5 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. I hope to do a few more episodes on this PC.

  • @fredboldman6818
    @fredboldman6818 Месяц назад +3

    Another important thing to consider is the top bezel cover. I bought a 705 g4 with the 2400GE with the goal of doing this. However, my unit came with a solid top. For optimum ventalation, you should try finding one of the mesh tops that are on the 65 or 90w models. The tops from the 800 g4s will work, but if it's not a g4, don't bother. It won't fit.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching and providing this information.

  • @Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH
    @Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH 25 дней назад +1

    i love the g1-g4 market on ebay for these things, one day ill eventually buy one for batocera or somthing for fun, thanks for the upload.

  • @chilledbroccoli899
    @chilledbroccoli899 Месяц назад +4

    dint know this was possible amazing video

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for watching. Glad you linked the video.

  • @clubx1000
    @clubx1000 27 дней назад +1

    I wanted to see this for a long time

  • @Lostcontroller
    @Lostcontroller Месяц назад +3

    I just bought this little beauty last week. I love how easy it is to work on, unlike other OEM pc models. The only thing I would like to know is if this can be upgraded to a Ryzen 5 2600.

    • @swemac
      @swemac Месяц назад +1

      Its not possible the bios does not support it

    • @swemac
      @swemac Месяц назад +1

      however i removed the powermangement in bios and cpu boost even higher

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @swemac
      @swemac Месяц назад

      @@sphericalcow5258 i did not remove it just disabled it

  • @iNeedsCoffee
    @iNeedsCoffee 6 дней назад +1

    Not cleaning that greenboard under the hdmi card hurt my feelings.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  5 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. I’ll do better next time 😁

  • @Solar_and_Security
    @Solar_and_Security Месяц назад +2

    Not sure if it's been said, I'm to lazy to read through the comments, but if you do this, make sure you buy the 150W power supply, the 65W isn't gonna cut it. Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine was a HUGE pain. so if you don't know much about it, stick to windows.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for watching and reiterating the need for the higher wattage power supply.

    • @Messy_Marv
      @Messy_Marv Месяц назад

      How was Linux hard to install?

    • @Solar_and_Security
      @Solar_and_Security Месяц назад

      @@Messy_Marv Edit: Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine was a HUGE pain. to > Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine "with the graphics card" was a HUGE pain. Forgot for a second that people love to comment *Pounds on chest* ugg ugg me brain is bigger than yours "how was this hard, it wasn't for me, I can't understand....." Messy, did you even install Linux on this machine with the card installed? Thanks for contributing nothing of value to the conversation. Back under the bridge troll.

  • @dctaken
    @dctaken Месяц назад +4

    I have one doing nothing at the moment. I was debating on getting the gpu for it and install Bazzite OS and see how it does. Its currently running W11, with the help of rufus, just fine.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. Yeah, I should have clarified that there is a way to run Win11, but maybe another video for later :-)

    • @NetrunnerAT
      @NetrunnerAT Месяц назад

      @@dctaken BazziteOS OS Run better with AMD GPU's at the Moment. Reason is BazziteOS use Wayland and Nvidia GPU's are Not Well integrated. FSync make troubles. Create Micro stucks. Also Valves Gaming Mode isnt full supported.
      This means ... If you Look at Lenovo 1L PC's every AMD 75w is a good choice. 12V Rail isnt build to Support more Power. Also Intels A380 with A340 cooler Work in 1L Case.
      One thingiverse you can also Download a Case Mode for two Slot SFF GPU's.

  • @downundergarage6968
    @downundergarage6968 Месяц назад +1

    Vega 11 is quite fast by the integrated standard. 130W with a discrete.. ouch that is a LOT vs max 65 on IGPU and CPU combined. Also watch out for the 35 vs 65 w models. I think that the internal GPU will only work for the 65W models. Also the price of the card has now risen to $75 USD.. and to ship this to my country is another $75 USD.. lol..

  • @callumbush1
    @callumbush1 17 дней назад +1

    Probably better off with a EGPU connected via oculink.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  17 дней назад

      Thanks for watching, and thanks for the input.

  • @hartomoygy
    @hartomoygy Месяц назад +1

    I see Davinci Resolve, i click like

  • @aku2dimensional
    @aku2dimensional Месяц назад +1

    I didn't read the tile correctly and I thought I could get one for the HP Prodesk 600 G3 mini.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. That’s a bummer.

  • @Yuriel1981
    @Yuriel1981 Месяц назад +2

    I would like to see what this does to a Batocera machine running on one of these, could be a nice small dual boot Batocera gaming machine/Windows media center PC.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. Yes, I'd like to do a follow-up video related to retro gaming, but it isn't something I normally do. But this channel is the opportunity for me (and hopefully others) to try new things and learn along the way. Stay tuned.

    • @michealdionne5456
      @michealdionne5456 Месяц назад

      Runs well. My Bartop arcade is powered by an elitedesk 705 g4 with the ryzen 5 pro 2400ge

    • @Yuriel1981
      @Yuriel1981 Месяц назад

      @michealdionne5456 I would have guessed, I have done a couple of the G3s for family members. Their igpus are good even up to PS 2/xbox/GameCube emulation fairly well. I was more interested in what it could handle at the top. Like PS3 or XBox 360 emulation. I am currently running a ryzen 3100/3060ti setup for my Home Media Center/Batocera system. It handles most everything pretty well.

  • @kovalus
    @kovalus Месяц назад +1

    Wow, I don't know about external graphics card to HP G4 mini. I have two, and I am funboy this computer :). Thank you for movie.

  • @swemac
    @swemac Месяц назад +1

    I installed archlinux on mine, but still uses the vega 11 and it works great and quite snappy
    If you do don´t forget to install the vaapi for amdgpu.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thank you for watching, and the input on the Linux front. I’m thinking of running Mint on a separate partition.

    • @swemac
      @swemac Месяц назад

      @@heywhatisnext just do it and install it with EFI bootloader / works best

  • @sandorcsonka1975
    @sandorcsonka1975 6 часов назад

    DEAR SIR WHAT CAN I DO WHEN HP EliteDesk 705 G4I built it in the HP AMD Radeon RX560 4GB gives 3 long white beeps after 4 shorts red beeps when turned on,Thank you very much for your reply !!!!

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun Месяц назад +4

    At the very least, it'll free up some RAM.

  • @Aaron_Dayton
    @Aaron_Dayton 2 дня назад +1

    Can someone confirm which HP power supply you need to turn this on? I know the 65 watt standard one doesn't work, Just got a 120 watt in the mail, thinking I need to get the 150 watt is the hot ticket?... Thank you.
    3 long beeps, 4 short beeps tells me its a power issue.
    Cheers! thank you

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  2 дня назад

      Mine came with a 135 watt power supply and it worked fine (used in the video).

    • @Aaron_Dayton
      @Aaron_Dayton 2 дня назад

      @@heywhatisnext Thank you, I appreciate the response.

  • @Nightset
    @Nightset 22 дня назад +1

    hello I have a 705 G5 model will this modification work? G4 looks the same inside there is also a connector. But won't the bios block the start?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  21 день назад

      Thanks for watching. According to HP’s website, it does appear that it should work: support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06461848.

  • @CharlesZ-yx1em
    @CharlesZ-yx1em Месяц назад +1

    Very interesting

  • @Gaming.Vids1
    @Gaming.Vids1 Месяц назад +1

    Would have been useful to see an FPS test in graphics hungry games. I always thought you couldn't buy graphics cards for mini PCs like that, how did you find out it could be upgraded and how did you know what physical dimensions of card to look for? Is this the only card available for it or are there other choices? Where can we buy the cards other than Ebay?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thank for watching. I do plan a follow-up video exploring game. I'm not a big gamer, but I'm willing to give it a go. How did I find out? A video appeared in my RUclips feed about this topic. I had no clue this mini PC had that feature. Yes, eBay is the place to look. This appears to be a card only HP makes. Check out the links in my video description.

  • @XaFFaX
    @XaFFaX 17 дней назад +1

    You can update this to Win 11. I have 3 of there units and just recently installed Win 11 on one of them without a problem. On another note - I have the 35W versions and I was having issues with 2 of them where the fan right from the start spins up to max RPM and stays like that forever. It becomes terribly noisy at that point. The only workaround is to remove CMOS battery, then fans behave normally then, but only until you have the device connected to power, after disconnection the problem returns. The problem is known and described over the internet as well. I was wondering - have you ever encountered this? Can you also post what RAM modules you have?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  17 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. I haven’t experienced the issue you mentioned regarding fan noise and high RPMs. Regarding RAM, I have a pair of Crucial 16 GB modules. Here’s the info: CT16G4SFRA32A.M16FR; 16GB DDR4-3200 SODIMM 1.2V CL22.

    • @XaFFaX
      @XaFFaX 17 дней назад

      @@heywhatisnext Thank you! 👍

    • @gfreeman17
      @gfreeman17 9 дней назад

      spróbuj wymienić wentylator i zaktualizować bios, czytałem o tym problemie. Mam też 705 g4 i nie miałem żadnych problemów z wentylatorem

    • @XaFFaX
      @XaFFaX 7 дней назад

      @@gfreeman17 Dzięki za informację. O wentylatorach czytałem gdzieś na reddit i może faktycznie można spróbować, natomiast wydaje mi się to dziwne, bo po wyjęciu baterii CMOS wentylator działa normalnie (do czasu wyjęcia wtyczki zasilania z gniazdka). Jeżeli chodzi o BIOS to nadal to coś o dziwo ma wsparcie. Nie tak dawno wyszła nowa wersja, zaktualizowałem i nic to nie zmienia. Próbowałem też wgrać starsze wersje, bo można i też to nic nie zmienia. Zmiana konfiguracji sprzętowej (CPU, RAM, dyski itd) też bez zmian. Więc albo coś sprzętowe na płycie (albo problem z BIOSem), albo może wentylator. Długo nad tym siedziałem i nie udało mi się ustalić, jak bym znalazł ten wentylator i to by coś zmieniło to napiszę.

  • @user-gx1dc8es2u
    @user-gx1dc8es2u 28 дней назад +1

    Test with Batocera

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  27 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. I’ll look into testing this.

  • @SinaFarhat
    @SinaFarhat Месяц назад +4

    Interesting, the built-in graphics are that good that a dedicated gpu wasn't a big upgrade.
    At least now, with the dedicated graphics, you are not taking up some of your ram.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, I was surprised. With the discrete graphics, I noticed temps on the CPU were less during graphics testing I did off camera. This was to be expected. Still loved tinkering with this mini pc :-)

    • @metamon2704
      @metamon2704 Месяц назад +4

      well it's not a very good discrete graphics card so that is why!

    • @Croga
      @Croga Месяц назад +2

      For about 2 years I ran a system based on the Ryzen 5 3400G as my main gaming system. It wasn't very good at first person shooters but World of Warcraft and Diablo3 ran pretty decently. Even on the 3840*1440 screen.
      IGPs have become pretty powerful over the past couple of years.

  • @DumbSkippy
    @DumbSkippy Месяц назад +1

    AMD 3400G B-450 , 16 Gb 3600 Ram, 1Tb M2 and an AMD 6400 HDMI2.1 4k 120hz, Noctua 9 cm Downdraft cooler.
    Max power usage is 121 Watts

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @afrowitchdr
      @afrowitchdr Месяц назад +1

      someone sure is proud of there pc specs to be spouting them off in a random videos comment like this lol

  • @jokejoker728
    @jokejoker728 2 дня назад +1

    i have a HP elitedesk 705 g3 mini, will it support the discrete graphic upgrade?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  2 дня назад +1

      Thanks for watching. Based on the HP device page, the graphic card I used is not supported. You can view the page here: support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05265587.

    • @jokejoker728
      @jokejoker728 2 дня назад

      @@heywhatisnext ty for the reply.
      can I add eGPU to my 705 g3 mini?
      Does it support ryzen processor?

    • @macvideomanlive
      @macvideomanlive День назад +1

      @@jokejoker728 I tried to find someting on this and couldn't find an answer for you. It appears the USB-C isn't Thunderbolt, so if memory serves me correctly, I don't think this PC supports eGPU. Anyone else know?

    • @jokejoker728
      @jokejoker728 День назад

      @@macvideomanlive ty. Now I'm thinking what Os to use for entertainment and a bit gaming purpose. W11 tiny or Chrome Os?

  • @amigo2x
    @amigo2x Месяц назад +1

    Does anyone have pinout of this connector ? Can I use it as additional pcie slot ?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. Yes, I’d like to know as well.

  • @HamechiTV
    @HamechiTV 26 дней назад +1

    I have an HP EliteDesk 705 G4 SFF, can I play games on it? 8GB RAM, A10-9700 CPU

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  19 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. I don’t have access to that PC, but I looked up the specs and benchmarks. Out of the box, I would say older titles might be okay, but nothing too graphics intensive. The CPU Geekbench numbers were 646 single-core and 1574 multi-core. For retro gaming, you should be fine up to PSP, and even then you might be stretching the limits. Anyone else want to chime in?

  • @Tlakeuali
    @Tlakeuali 14 дней назад +1

    Do you think this will work with Fedora/Ubuntu?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  13 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. I believe that it should work with the PC and graphics card. I do plan a follow-up video(s) looking into alternative OSes, attempting Windows 11, and retro gaming. Have a few more shows before I can get to the revisit.

  • @shadow-fighter-666
    @shadow-fighter-666 7 дней назад +1

    What's happened with storage 😢

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  5 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. Are you talking storage in general or the storage in this Mini PC?

    • @shadow-fighter-666
      @shadow-fighter-666 5 дней назад +1

      @@heywhatisnext bro you remove ssd and install graphics card so where is storage install 😩

    • @macvideomanlive
      @macvideomanlive 4 дня назад

      Gotcha! Yes, I removed the 2.5” SATA drive, but there is a NVME drive slot which is where everything is stored now. While it’s much faster, losing the other drive sucks. I’ll place it in an external USB case at some point.

    • @shadow-fighter-666
      @shadow-fighter-666 2 дня назад

      @@macvideomanlive hay bro can we play gta v in it at 1080p normal settings please reply 🤔

    • @macvideomanlive
      @macvideomanlive День назад

      @@shadow-fighter-666 Thanks for the inquiry. Off-hand, I don't know. I currently don't have GTA 5, but I'm planning a follow-up video, and I'll make this one of the new benchmarks.

  • @NetrunnerAT
    @NetrunnerAT Месяц назад +1

    Lenovo M720Q is better. You can use a standard Graficcard. I use a M910X with i9-9900T and a RTX A2000 with 64gb RAM and 4TB NVME with BazziteOS and PS5 Controller.

    • @heliosf9592
      @heliosf9592 Месяц назад

      And how much does it cost?

    • @NetrunnerAT
      @NetrunnerAT Месяц назад

      @@heliosf9592 m720q you get sometimes under 70€. A2000 around 200€. CPU is expansiv But i wana it 210€ But you can use also 50€ Gen 9 Intel in a range around 35-45w TPW. CPU ... you need add Microcode in BIOS.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. That does sound like a better unit.

    • @NetrunnerAT
      @NetrunnerAT Месяц назад

      @@heywhatisnext read how to make CPU Microcode Updates with Coffeetime. Also how to use a SPI Prommer to flash Firmware in circuits. After that you can use Gen 9 Intel on a Gen 7 or 8 mobo.

  • @skideric
    @skideric Месяц назад +2

    Are you using the Larger Power Supply?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. During the video, I used the 135 watt power supply that came with the unit. I purchased a 150 watt power supply off eBay. Honestly, the mini pc runs about the same; no noticeable additional power consumption.

  • @pinikpikantv3555
    @pinikpikantv3555 Месяц назад +1

    Would you suggest a G6 or G5 over this G4 if I copy the same upgrade?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. In short, I guess it depends on what you want to do. The HP Elitedesk 800 G6 has a recent Intel processor and a discrete Nvidia graphics card option. As I stated in the video, I create interactive, online training and online help systems. For me the G4 works fine, and two years ago the price was hard to beat.

  • @sparky7635
    @sparky7635 Месяц назад +1

    Did you exchange the standard power supply?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. I did upgrade to the 150 watt power supply even though I had the 135 watt unit. Honestly, I haven’t noticed a different in wattage between the two.

  • @butterbagboy
    @butterbagboy Месяц назад +1

    I’m wondering about emulation, my stock one tops out at ps1, will this run ps2 & Xbox or higher?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. Honestly, I don’t know but willing to try. If anyone else knows, let us know.

    • @NetrunnerAT
      @NetrunnerAT Месяц назад +1

      @@butterbagboy AMD RX560 isnt realy fast. Its 2,5 Times slower compare to a SteamDeck. This means ... If you Play emulated Games ... It Work fine. 30-60 FPS bottleneck is more the CPU If you use older Gen Intels.

  • @AvWijk85
    @AvWijk85 Месяц назад +1

    Not worth it if you don't live in the USA. The shipping is as much as the card itself..

  • @daviddaniel1001
    @daviddaniel1001 28 дней назад +1

    Will this work in the 800 G4 too?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  27 дней назад

      Thanks for watching. I don’t know about the 800 G4. The sellers website does state the 805 G4 is supported. Hope that helps.

  • @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
    @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- Месяц назад +1

    I don't support HP (Hyper Proprietary) products.

  • @soulreaper11207
    @soulreaper11207 Месяц назад +1

    Does MGPU work with this set up?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. Following the online instructions, I do not see the MGPU option under Gaming > Graphics > Advanced. I’m guessing this isn’t support with this setup.

  • @EntropySwordZ99
    @EntropySwordZ99 Месяц назад +4

    Cant be worth the extra power and noise.

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching, and overall, I would agree with you. If you’re a gamer, I could see a benefit if you already have this EliteDesk PC.

  • @kolotxoz
    @kolotxoz Месяц назад +2

    I have one of those elitedesk, how about your temps?

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for watching. I ran some tests using Geekbench 6 and Cinebench R23 to capture temps. For the CPU, the minimum was 54°C and max was 94°C. In Geekbench 6 graphics test, I saw 60°C. Hope this helps.

  • @berniesutton7277
    @berniesutton7277 Месяц назад +1

    I got sick & tired of hearing "go ahead"after less thzan 5 minutes

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for watching what you could. Wow! I do say that more than I should. I appreciate your feedback.

    • @berniesutton7277
      @berniesutton7277 Месяц назад +2

      @heywhatisnext you're welcome. Apart from the repetitious phrase, it looked like a good video. That phrase is excessively over used by many Americans and it does get tiresome hearing it, especially as it is usually completely unnecessary in the context of the commentary. Yours has been the most intelligent response to my comment like this . I'll have another look at your videos

  • @lonewolfsos
    @lonewolfsos Месяц назад +1

    Useless gimmick product

    • @heywhatisnext
      @heywhatisnext  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching. By today’s standard, I can’t disagree.

    • @lonewolfsos
      @lonewolfsos Месяц назад +1

      @@heywhatisnext Might be good as some sort of server with linux but there's cheaper and better alternatives. Great video though