Bates Method 101: Why Eye Exercises Don't Work (and what DOES work)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2022
  • In this video, Certified Bates Method Teacher, Nathan Oxenfeld explains why "eye exercises" don't work and clarifies the correct approach to natural vision improvement, which involves replacing the bad vision habit of "diffusion" with the good vision habit of "central fixation".
    Many people think the way to improve their vision naturally is by exercising their eye muscles. This effort only leads to more strain, and will not necessarily lead to better eyesight.
    Refractive errors (myopia, hyperopia/presbyopia, astigmatism) are always accompanied by a loss of central fixation. Therefore, it is critical to understand what central fixation is and how to get it back.
    Central Fixation is defined as "seeing best where you are looking", and therefore "seeing worse where you are not looking." If you try to see equally clearly everywhere all at once, you will strain and experience blur. This is the opposite of central fixation, called "eccentric fixation" or "diffusion".
    Most people who wear glasses or contacts are in a state of diffusion, both with their lenses on and with their lenses off. If you want to start getting more clear flashes and eventually see more stable clarity without glasses, central fixation is the way to do that.
    Follow along with some of Nathan's demonstrations in this video and you may even experience an instant improvement. Even if it is a temporary moment of clarity, it is still proof that by adopting central fixation as your new way of seeing you can achieve clearer eyesight naturally - without having to do any "eye exercises"!
    Listen to the Better Eyesight Podcast for many more explanations of central fixation - bettereyesightpodcast.com/
    Watch Nathan's Vision Tune-Up on Central Fixation - • Vision Tune-Up Tuesday...
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Комментарии • 265

  • @yo_stephen
    @yo_stephen 2 месяца назад +4

    This is a real public service, thank you. I got lasik some years back and noticed my vision getting worse again. My rabbit hole left me here and you hit the nail on the head. My old glasses habit still stayed with me and now I will change how I see. Thank you

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Месяц назад +2

      Hooray! It's never too late to start making positive changes to your vision habits. Hope it works well for you :)

  • @maplebobo9862
    @maplebobo9862 2 года назад +25

    From what I understand of the Bates method I feel like all the vision habits that are taught are connected to one another:
    The better you get at central fixation -> the better you get at shifting.
    The better you get at shifting -> the better you get at seeing movement.
    The better you get at seeing movement -> the better you get at peripheral awareness.
    The better you get at peripheral awareness -> the better you get at central fixation.
    It is one of many ways these habits are connected, and also they all make the eyes relax which will make the vision sharper. It is a virtuous cycle.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  2 года назад +7

      From what I understand of your comment, you have a good grasp of how the Bates Method works! When referring to the good vision habits, Dr. Bates stated "when one is perfect, all are perfect." So yes, they are certainly all connected!

    • @maplebobo9862
      @maplebobo9862 2 года назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld That's amazing

    • @lordbendtner6404
      @lordbendtner6404 2 года назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld can you explain more about the mark warren way

    • @MrBiewl
      @MrBiewl Год назад

      I can not understand. He talks in the video not to stare at someone's face, but to jump from one eye to the other, that's not staring at me.

  • @AnneMart
    @AnneMart 9 месяцев назад +2

    What a wonderful video Nathan, thank you so much . I love this concept of Central Fixation and this new way (for me) of seeing. I am so looking forward to making it my own way of seeing. I brought your book a few weeks ago and am just starting the journey. I can't express how grateful I am for all your brilliant guidance, which is so well communicated.

  • @bethbonness
    @bethbonness Год назад +3

    Really appreciated the cinematic mode as a way to demonstrate the difference. Central fixation is extremely easy with sunshine assist, especially on my walks. And I think if I can see it that way I KNOW my eyes can see clearly and I’m not as disappointed when I can’t see it on cloudy days.
    Thanks for doing these videos,
    Beth

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed that effect! Good point that the light level can influence central fixation. Above a certain light threshold (bright sunny walk) the cones dominate. Below a certain light threshold (in darker environments) the rods dominate. Keep exploring your central and peripheral vision in all light levels!

  • @cestjuliah
    @cestjuliah Год назад +4

    I think it's the best video on this topic so far, seriously. Thank you Nathan!

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Hooray! I'm glad it "clicked" for you in this one :)

  • @LSinclair
    @LSinclair 3 месяца назад

    I learned so much from this. I love the fingers idea, thank you! I’m also learning a lot from both your podcasts. Thank you so much for all the clarifying and examples you give. Lynn

  • @Deb0033
    @Deb0033 Год назад +1

    I just learned a bunch right now, exact synchronicity. I’m hooked!
    Thanks a zillion! Keep it coming!🤓😃

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      I'm glad you resonated with this video! Stay tuned for more soon...

  • @fipop5859
    @fipop5859 Год назад +4

    I found this really helpful. I listened with my eyes closed and opened them to do the finger near and far - I got the double finger which I then understood CF. For a while afterwards, i opened my eyes, and i started looking at the things around with CF in mind. When I got up to walk around I realised I didn't know where to look.As I got cat food ready for my cat and put it in another room i realised that my eyes where moving all over the place - looking at things as I went past (its not a straight line walk). it made m think how much my eyes "work" or adjust when doing CF. it really made me feel how "lazy" or stuck my eyes had become. it felt weird and good all at the same time. Having my glasses on now to write this i can see how it all the same "diffuse" as you say.
    Thank you so much - I have been really having problems doing palming, sunning etc this feels sort of like my eyes are coming alive again.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Super! Yes, years of eye strain and glasses use sort of "immobilizes" the eyes and encourages bad habits like staring. Keep breaking the stare and allowing more movement to make its way into your eyes and mind for more improvements! And even when you need to put your glasses back on, you can still encourage easy shifting and central fixation.

  • @Robeerose01
    @Robeerose01 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you I’m so exited about this method.
    Thank you !!

  • @ayushchoubey635
    @ayushchoubey635 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks Nathan for being our teacher 🙂

  • @juliamarriott7279
    @juliamarriott7279 Год назад

    Many thanks Nathan, You explained this so well. I read WH Bates book years ago but never really got it till now.

  • @chrishellelaniece9175
    @chrishellelaniece9175 Год назад

    Thank you!!! Could feel and SEE a difference by the end of the video!!

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Hooray! I hope central fixation has continued to help you feel and see more improvements :)

  • @seektruth983
    @seektruth983 2 года назад +3

    So interesting! Thank you!

  • @elisb9800
    @elisb9800 Год назад

    I loved this. Thank You so very much!🌹

  • @faduelos
    @faduelos Год назад +1

    Hi nathan oxenfeld it is very important video i watched many of your videos years ago and now i want to start over but i overwhelmed and don't know where to start. it seems like this video is a good start, i will be happy to see your comment about this, thanks

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Hey, thanks for commenting! You may enjoy going through my free six-part Vision Tune-Up series - integraleyesight.com/live

  • @MichaelAlperstein
    @MichaelAlperstein Год назад

    Thank you for this clear description Nathan. It makes a lot of sense.
    I've been struggling with double vision lately. I'm new to your channel. Do you have any videos or specific podcasts that cover this topic?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +2

      I think Episode 17 of The Better Eyesight Podcast would be a good start, since it talks a lot about double vision as a result of strabismus or squint - www.bettereyesightpodcast.com/home/november1920

  • @venomsnake6412
    @venomsnake6412 2 года назад +11

    Even thinking tridimensional with my eyes closed can improve my vision. I started learning central fixation with my eyes closed first. There is an episode in Bates' book where there is a patient who remembered a black ball and Bates tells him to watch it shrink into the sea as he goes out to sea. Personally I could not visualize the ball until I saw the whole landscape around it with the various focal planes in a three-dimensional way.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +2

      Splendid! I also enjoy contextualizing my visualizations to help me tune into the sense of "mental depth perception".

  • @VishalRaoOnYouTube
    @VishalRaoOnYouTube 2 года назад +1

    This is a brilliant explanation. Thank you!

  • @PianoIniciacion
    @PianoIniciacion Год назад +5

    Thanks so much, Nathan and greetings from Spain. I follow Bates method and your explanations are really very good. So important to make the whole process effortless as you say and fully understand the concepts.
    I have been practicing the Bates method for 3 months. I have gone from -2.75 myopia in each eye to -1.25 in each eye and I am still improving. It is lived as a miracle, since always told us that myopia could not be improved. I encourage everyone to follow the method.
    Best Regards

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Whoa! You're a rockstar. That's a wonderful improvement in such a short time. You must be on the right track, keep it up, and keep us in the loop!

    • @PianoIniciacion
      @PianoIniciacion Год назад +2

      @@NathanOxenfeld Hi. 2 weeks ago jump from -1.25 to -1.00 and I am thinking of going down to -0.75 or maybe -0.50 soon. Note that I have been wearing glasses and contact lenses for over 30 years (more than 10 hours each day) !!
      I have fully integrated the swinging. When I walk down the street, all around me are swinging.
      I can also appreciate greater intensity in colors and a considerable improvement in peripheral vision

    • @Wonderlustxx72
      @Wonderlustxx72 Год назад +1

      Woow so encouraging!!
      Can i ask you
      Do you do bates method while wearing your glasses/lenses or without them

    • @PianoIniciacion
      @PianoIniciacion Год назад

      @@Wonderlustxx72 Hi Sara !!. I do the exercises without contact lenses or glasses.
      In any case, as the workout is 7x24 there are times when I do short Sunnings and short Palmings throughout the day and become aware of the sway while I walk. I also pay attention to center fixation. All these last things I do with contact lenses because they are things that I do in my day to day

    • @pbrown4
      @pbrown4 Год назад

      @@PianoIniciacion Which exercises do you do / bring most success? Just swinging?

  • @jewel2022now
    @jewel2022now Год назад +1

    The cinematic focus makes you look more 3d. But, thank you. Love this all. I'm going to start working on this. It's very new

  • @Delsha777
    @Delsha777 2 года назад +2

    Excellent teaching of Central Fixation...

  • @JenP2776
    @JenP2776 Год назад +1

    I’ve had glasses since I was in the second grade I’m only now coming across this information and, though I’m wearing my contacts as I watch this video, I’m looking forward to practicing these methods and learning more!

  • @jibc2865
    @jibc2865 2 года назад +5

    🙏 thx. Now I understand the principle of central vision. Before this vid I was seeing Bates like exercise. I was saying to myself that i'd do 20mn each day. I was aware that I needed to change my vision habits, but now I understand. 🙏

    • @knarfey4756
      @knarfey4756 Год назад

      Hey bro, do you mind sharing a little bit about your understanding of central vision principle? I've tried bates method for a long time to no vail with frustration. Will appriciate your reply.

    • @jibc2865
      @jibc2865 Год назад +1

      @@knarfey4756 it's all explain in the vid.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Hooray! That sounds like a crucial mental shift for you.

  • @Nostalgia-pc6hb
    @Nostalgia-pc6hb 2 года назад +19

    I am more like the mechanical way. I got rid of a negative one of myopia in one month and I really needed a lot of eye stretching after sunning and palming. Looking to the right and blink five times, then looking to the left and blink five times, then relax again and go over this for ten times. My vision is really good now. I think Dr. Bates teaching were improved by Meir Schneider although 90% of the credit for the method is Dr Bates for discovering Joe the eye muscles work and introducing the most important rellaxation techniques like sunning and palming.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +2

      Awesome job! That proves how the Bates Method is not a "cookie-cutter" approach that works the same for every human on the planet. Sounds like you were able to find what works for you and get good results.

    • @mytubeid
      @mytubeid 8 месяцев назад

      WAIT, SO THIS ACTUALLY WORKS? I have - 2 If I do this will my vision become better

  • @mioszhermanowicz1747
    @mioszhermanowicz1747 Год назад +1

    I’ve learned a lot from this video!

  • @albertoluna1271
    @albertoluna1271 Год назад +2

    Thank you so much.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      You are welcome! Thanks for watching & commenting :)

  • @123JiaMeng
    @123JiaMeng 2 года назад +9

    I'd suggest you talk about eye floaters in your vision improvement path. Topics like did you care about them, and did it influence you over your journey. I'd love to hear them.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  2 года назад +4

      Wonderful suggestion! I have added floaters to the list of my upcoming Bates Method 101 videos. In the meantime, refer to my response to @Divyansh's comment about floaters.

    • @Itsme-ni9jk
      @Itsme-ni9jk 2 года назад +1

      Lasik, destroyed my eye muscle surgery as a child !..now cataract surgery complications bubble floater,shadows has manifest exactly that problem...
      I'm so t i r ed.....
      depressed.
      Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @123JiaMeng
      @123JiaMeng 2 года назад

      @@Itsme-ni9jk Be grateful for what you have. Questions will be answered eventually. Don't force anything.

    • @Itsme-ni9jk
      @Itsme-ni9jk 2 года назад +1

      @@123JiaMeng
      Yes, anxiety makes me weak ..but yes, some folks have worse things...I'm not blind.
      God comfort those struggling @

    • @drsladjanavelkov
      @drsladjanavelkov Год назад +2

      @@Itsme-ni9jk Be on a completely raw food for a 3-6 months and there will be improvement. For floaters also.

  • @Laura-ps3tb
    @Laura-ps3tb Год назад +1

    Worked immediately!

  • @starrett8063
    @starrett8063 Год назад

    How do you do centralization while reading? I just realized that to do centralization I have to focus on only one spot, and that will be very slow.I really want to learn this right way of seeing, but I am now a college student and I need to read a lot of things, what can I do to read and keep doing centralization?

  • @oyveydetoymeny
    @oyveydetoymeny Год назад +1

    Peripheral vision is a key to central fixation because it enables the eye to triangulate and know where to focus.it also is a way to acknowledge that blurry vision is actually useful and natural. In spite of being blurry, peripheral vision is effective at detecting movement. If something is perceived as a threat in the peripheral, your eyes will naturally shift towards it with a speed surpassing any other muscular movement.the power required for that movement is such that straining these muscles will lead to eye deformation.

    • @kkevinj1
      @kkevinj1 9 месяцев назад

      noticing the peripheral engages active focus for me, no triangulation needed, just back ur vision up a bit to see everything around you while looking with intention, clears things up

  • @sennlich
    @sennlich 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @meriembelhadjouri4807
    @meriembelhadjouri4807 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for your work here. Central vision seems to be the most important practice or principle. Can we improve our vision by "working" on it or does our vision improve only if we also follow the other practices (palming shifting sunning..)?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  2 года назад +10

      Great question... yes you do have to "work" on it in the sense that it takes a certain level of awareness to pay attention to keeping up good vision habits (central fixation, relaxation, shifting, blinking, etc.) but you do not have to actually "work" at focusing or seeing clearly... because that is when you start to strain. Strain should be avoided at all cost. So yes, it does take time and energy to heal your eyes, but the process itself does not require "hard work". The more you relax, the better it "works".

    • @meriembelhadjouri4807
      @meriembelhadjouri4807 2 года назад +3

      @@NathanOxenfeld thank you so much for your answer. And thank you for all your work. I have been following you for a few years now. Best wishes 🙏

  • @TimHupkes
    @TimHupkes 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for this! ❤ I wonder: I have clear slashes and with them comes a sting and tearing up. Is that a good sign of old ‘cramped’ muscles letting go, or is it a bad thing..?

  • @sallygreco6727
    @sallygreco6727 Год назад

    Love your channel. This was super helpful! I have a question… maybe you’ve addressed this? I took my glasses off a couple of months ago, but need a light to be able to read and see well close up. I am still struggling tbut am hopeful that things will change now that I’ve found your expertise. Can you shed some light on my need for light?🙏

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Hey Sally. Sight depends on light, so the more light you have, the more sight you have... generally speaking. So keep setting yourself up for success by giving yourself sufficient lighting, whether natural light or artificial light. Also, consider using weaker prescription "training glasses" as stepping stones so to speak as a way to "wean off" glasses instead of "quitting cold turkey". At the end of the day it's all about relaxation, so whatever makes you feel the most relaxed.

  • @Johnadams20760
    @Johnadams20760 Год назад +1

    i agree 100% when i read bates's book albiet it defintely takes some time to figure out exactly the "hows" to do things but i recall one thing he said near the beginning "your eyes want to see" and that the entire focus of his methods are actaully relaxing the eye since as you mention, he talked constantly about strain, strain, staring and that 99.999% of any eye issues are a result of strain.
    in fact, that is why i belive palming is so important. it heps relax the eyes and lets them heal.
    same with going bettween light and dark.
    i am 49, or will be in 5 days. and have not yet worn glasses or contacts. i found his book a few years ago and watched a copule of your videos even as well as some others for kicks. and just try varoius things. i do agree though too much eye excercising or trying too hard with them is strain for sure.
    i even saw some message board about this saying how many people talk about it but do their own additions to it and they said ther eis nothing to add. only the things bates discusses are the only things you need or should do . many others try to ADD "Excercises" that probably also strain your eyes.
    i need to watch more again.
    although i do wonder. do you ever do these techiniques with one eye closed and one open? to focus on one eye? or is that no treally necessary as one eye tends to be waeker than the other often

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Yes, Fusion is a big part of natural vision improvement. I did lots of patching and half-patching as a way to isolate my left eye and my right eye separately, either while doing vision training practices, or just while relaxing around the house.

  • @aarthyrengaswamy7501
    @aarthyrengaswamy7501 Год назад

    Nathan all ur videos are complete and amazing...but I would request you to add just one video....clear flash that doesn't go away...how does that happen...it sounds so magical...can u plz explain ur tradition like how u changed from -4 to no glasses...what where the intermediate power in which ur vision stabilized...how frequently where u changing prescriptions...I am confused at times on how to transition between high myopia to no myopia..

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Thanks for commenting! Have you watched my video about Clear Flashes (ruclips.net/video/spiIo4pUAQw/видео.html) or listened to Episode 31 of The Naked Eye Podcast where I tell my whole journey from blur to clarity? integraleyesight.com/podcast
      In short, I dropped from about -4.00 myopia & -2.00 astigmatism to -3.75 or -3.50 myopia & -1.50 astigmatism in approximately 3-6 months after I first started practicing the Bates Method in 2010-2011.
      I had to push pause for another 3-6 months in order to finish my final semester of my undergraduate degree. I graduated in 2011 and got back to practicing.
      I dropped to -2.00 myopia & 0 astigmatism in 2012 and kept practicing solo.
      I started working with my vision teacher Dr. Jerriann Taber in 2013-2014 and she helped me get to 20/10 vision without glasses.
      I was going in for eye exams and those were the numbers the eye doctor gave me, so that's how I knew when to drop, based off my eye doctor's measurements.
      What are your numbers?

  • @Searching_life_07
    @Searching_life_07 Год назад +33

    My eyesight got better from -1.5 in right eye and -2.75 in left eye to -0.5 in right and -0.75 in left eye.... After I started to understand the concept of his videos... Understand what he is saying and apply it in your daily life...
    Thank you so much sir... I will always be grateful to you. Love from India🇮🇳

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +7

      Wow, very nice improvement, and very kind words! Thanks for sharing, hopefully your progress can inspire others to implement the Bates Method into their daily lives too :)

    • @Searching_life_07
      @Searching_life_07 Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld ❤️

    • @visitoralways3125
      @visitoralways3125 Год назад +3

      Hi, can you please explain what exactly did you do to improve your vision and how long it took you

    • @duo_sparks
      @duo_sparks Год назад

      @@Searching_life_07 Bai I am also from India eye improve honekeliye tune kya Kiya please can you tell me ,🙏

    • @rejectmodernity3045
      @rejectmodernity3045 Год назад

      What you did to be like that? Pls help, God bless...

  • @regishaiba
    @regishaiba 9 месяцев назад +1

    And the more I learn, the better I get into this.
    Bates really break the code into small pieces.
    The main challenge is we strain our facial muscles too much, and without knowing.
    The Yawn technique if we use it in a different way - without performing the whole process --, can relax the facial muscles.
    And I add the awareness of the nose in order to be able to notice sometimes oppositional movement (edges/periphery) while we are shifting.
    Other thing is, I prefer to change the word "shift" to "rest' my central vision. I know it sounds like staring, but words have power. It's easier to speed up the "rest" thing than learn to "shifting".
    When I read Bates and others telling about shifting, sounds like we need to do things in a super speed that we lose our awareness of edge/periphery, that we lose our notion of spatial awareness. So, for me it's better starting in a "resting my central vision" here, then "resting" there and slowly accelerating the "resting" thing.

  • @MundusTransit
    @MundusTransit Год назад

    my left eye was lazy and had to patch my right to get the left aligned again, but i still can't see anything in the center. its like a shotgun, while my right eye is like a sniper rifle.

  • @riyapattnaik6212
    @riyapattnaik6212 Год назад +1

    Hello Nathan! Could you please suggest some ways to improve my weaker left eye which is 3 dioptre weaker than my right eye?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Yes, check out my video about making and using a "half patch" to use on your right eye, which will block the central vision, but leave your right periphery open, which can sometimes work even better than a regular "full patch". Also, look into the Fusion practices that are designed to balance your left and right eyes and brain hemispheres.

  • @swaha55
    @swaha55 Год назад +2

    Holding a string in front of your eyes and focusing close to your face on the string and then focusing on the string farther away from your face good for central fixation?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Yes, that’s sometimes referred to as the Brock String. Technically it’s a for building fusion (teamwork between left and right eyes) but it also really helps with central fixation because you are moving your central vision up and down the string (where it seems to overlap itself) and the string appears doubled in the foreground and background (periphery).

  • @pamelapittman3080
    @pamelapittman3080 Год назад +1

    I have a question. I had cateract surgery and after a few months my vision got worse than it was before the caterers were removed. I have since had the laser treatment to remove the fogginess but my vision is still bad. Could I learn the Bates method and see improvement? Or are the artificial lenses always going to dominate?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Good question! In my opinion, yes. Because the surgery only changed the lenses, not the extraocular muscles. The Bates Method has a lot to do with retraining the extraocular muscles, which were not changed by the cataract surgery. So I think there is still some room for potential.

  • @Ajiolpr55789
    @Ajiolpr55789 Год назад

    Hi Nathan, another great video, I have a question, why is it I notice movement when I centralize? The moment I see something clearer ant the rest less clear, I notice movement more

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      That's good, that's what's supposed to happen! Dr. Bates said "constant shifting is necessary to maintain central fixation." So the movement is like the fuel for central fixation to occur and sustain. That's the way that people who don't need glasses see clearly... their eyes are in a state of constant central fixation and micro-movements. Movement is relaxing, and staring is straining. It sounds like you are doing a good job of breaking the habit of staring, so keep on noticing that subtle movement that is associated with the central fixation and clearer seeing.

  • @deliastubbs6243
    @deliastubbs6243 2 года назад +6

    This sounds amazing, but will this work on older people? Thank you

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  2 года назад +5

      Yep, central fixation is for everyone! There is no age limit on central fixation.

  • @jazmineszlari414
    @jazmineszlari414 Год назад

    So basically the active focus I've been experienceing(I was just doing that chinese eye massage that help your eyes to relax)actually means that my vision is at the very beginning of improvement?!

  • @hoboonwheels9289
    @hoboonwheels9289 Год назад

    Do you have experience with pinhole glasses? Do they improve vision over time.

  • @zoni_designer
    @zoni_designer Год назад +2

    How Can Improve My SYL -1.50 Eyesight 😭
    please help me how can control my eyesight and remove glasses ????

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      A good starting point is to listen to my interview with Esther Joy van der Werf about reversing astigmatism (CYL) - ruclips.net/video/Ahc9IaGdpXs/видео.html

  • @fredrik1324
    @fredrik1324 6 месяцев назад

    Where can we see the documentary he talked about in the beginning?

  • @brazosteinway5924
    @brazosteinway5924 4 месяца назад +1

    Nathan, Have you illustrated "Eye Squeezes", part of the Bates Method, used by Pres Johnson's eye doctor in WDC? It was miraculous very effective, 25 a day remedy worked, for me 1966

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  4 месяца назад

      Wow cool! Dr. Ray Gottlieb and I talk about "the big squeeze" in my interview with him, which you can hear at integraleyesight.com/raygottlieb

  • @Ajkefacts
    @Ajkefacts Год назад

    Sir is it work in keratokonus

  • @mickkali
    @mickkali Год назад

    Good morning ! Thank you for your video and channel. I just found you and your channel. I am listening to the book “Brains Way of Healing” and am fascinated by the Feldenkrais Bates methods for healing eyesight. At 65 my vision is getting worse and my sensitivity to the sun and bright light in general is severe. I want to improve my eyesight and rid myself of my painful light sensitivity. Is there a big difference between Feldenkrais and Bates exercises for the eyes? Where does a newbie like me start?
    Thank you kindly ❤️

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Hey Roseanne, welcome! Great question. I would say Feldenkrais is a little more broad and Bates is a little more specific, at least when it comes to the eyes and vision. Although Feldenkrais includes the eyes, it also includes the rest of the body. Dr. Bates was an eye doctor, so his method is very focused on developing better eyesight and insight. If I were you, I would start slowly introducing some gentle light therapy / sunning as a way to begin decreasing your light sensitivity. ruclips.net/video/qL6JV_e-UHI/видео.html

    • @mickkali
      @mickkali Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld Thank you kindly for taking the time to reply to my question. Much appreciated. I will take a look at the video and take your advice ❤️

  • @patrickbuick5459
    @patrickbuick5459 Год назад +2

    Now I want to go back and read all of the book I have by Ralph J MacFadyen copyright 1948 based on the Bates method.
    My biggest problem is astigmatism in both eyes, near 2 diopter in a mostly off rule direction. Many years ago I did an experiment with my ophthalmologist before and after using some of the common methods. She measured a large improvement within weeks. Too bad I quit and then took on computer work lol.

  • @khatunakurdovanidze5957
    @khatunakurdovanidze5957 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi, Neithan, thank you for the videos. I experience a pain in my eyes when I start seeing better and when trying central fixation. Did you have the same experience?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Месяц назад +1

      Sometimes. It was the sensation of my "dormant" eye muscles reawakening. They had been unused for many years since I was relying on my glasses and contacts. So when I took them off and started getting clear flashes without them, it was an interesting new sensation of my eye muscles actually working how they're supposed to. Eventually, they learn how to work in complete relaxation, so the pain sensation should diminish the more you practice. Clarity is not supposed to hurt, it's supposed to be joyous and relaxing. But I think you're on the right track, especially if you're very aware of not straining.

    • @khatunakurdovanidze5957
      @khatunakurdovanidze5957 Месяц назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld Thank you so much!

  • @sarajl976
    @sarajl976 Год назад

    Hi Nathan tremendous work you’ve done with the podcasts…. I just feel non native English speakers are too uncomfortable to listen to, specially with very long videos….. maybe someone else or you should read it….. not very uplifting at first but I feel it will help improve in the long run….

  • @missTinguish
    @missTinguish Год назад

    I am reading my small phone with my left eye only- l do a kind of Magic Eye trick. Now my eyes no longer work together and l can't read a book. I stopped wearing glasses decades ago but lazily didn't improve my sight. Should l practice using only my right eye to try unite them? Or should l get some glasses so l can read with both eyes?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      I would have to learn more about your vision history to give you any specific advice. But in general, it is not great to habitually close one eye to read. Instead, I would think about trying some "fusion" practices from the Bates Method that are designed to balance your left and right eyes and brain hemispheres. The question is, why were you reading with the left eye only? Is it because the right eye doesn't see as well? Because you can't comfortably converge your eyes? It might be helpful to get some professional help from a vision teacher or a vision therapist to make sure you're doing it correctly, because like you said, it's not always as simple as just not wearing your glasses.

  • @V0LKSJAGER
    @V0LKSJAGER Год назад +1

    Amazing concept of central fixation. In yoga, we were told to focus on a candle light and I didn't know why it was told to do so. And also while offering water to the early morning safron sun as our ram dev baba told us to do for improving eye sight. I didn't understood the concept behind it. But now I truly do. Looking at a candle light never did hurt my eyes but unnatural led light or bright sun definitely hurts and I was doing it without knowing what it is about looking at a candle light and I was getting good results but I really didn't understand the concept behind it. Thanks for explaining.

  • @darkypower4599
    @darkypower4599 Год назад +1

    I have a question, when ever i stare at something for 10secs the objects in my prephial vision has like lines on them and dots on them, is that normal?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      When you stare for a long time, your rods and cones get fatigued and "bleached out" by the light they are receiving. You should never stare to the point of straining like that. You are actually demonstrating temporary vision loss by staring. Instead, the eyes prefer to remain in motion, which Dr. Bates referred to as "shifting".

  • @xeropunt5749
    @xeropunt5749 Год назад +3

    I sometimes see amongst my floaters,
    when my vision is particularly clear,
    a small little circle, like a bullseye,
    very tiny & very elusive,
    floating along,
    I know that’s my central focal point appearing.
    It only shows up when my vision is particular clear especially outside on a sunny day.

    • @oneaurora
      @oneaurora Год назад +2

      Thanks for sharing, that is an interesting way to see it. I have been noticing my focal point as seeming like a tiny little window to look through.

    • @xeropunt5749
      @xeropunt5749 Год назад

      @@oneaurora
      Yeah very freeing to fix on one thing instead everything-same-depth-same-focus-all-at-once.
      Overwhelming to see everything stuck together.
      You want to isolate & pinpoint. Tunnel vision for lack of a better term… Just keep palming & moving. It’ll reappear. It’s hard but worth it!👍

    • @xeropunt5749
      @xeropunt5749 Год назад

      @Sup?!
      Yeah you can chase it but it keeps jumping around lol.
      Palm & sun. The more you do the better. Just takes will power & sacrifice to get off the phone & pursuing more exciting things. Good luck 👍

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Sounds a little bit like Dr. Bates' "swinging black period". That's also something I utilized to help me learn and maintain central fixation as an ongoing habit throughout my day and night.

    • @xeropunt5749
      @xeropunt5749 Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld
      I think so. I wonder what it is.
      There’s the usual wiggly floaters. Then just one distinct little donut ring…
      Btw, I was reading that Truth is seeking the Seeker as well… So it’s worth putting that into palming practice:
      “Clarity is seeking ME.”
      “I will ALLOW clarity to come”
      Then you’re doing only half the work & will meet clarity halfway.😉

  • @iamawsome281
    @iamawsome281 Год назад +5

    So what your saying is that people with naturally good vision don't see everything at once clearly, but instead they see a small center point which they see clearer than their peripheral? Contrary to the saying, it's better that I stop trying to take in the whole view entirely and instead just be aware of the tiny field in the center of my retina.

    • @mrmoodie1443
      @mrmoodie1443 Год назад +1

      Yes like ur mind makes up the rest but imagine ur seeing a tree you eyes will shift from part to part and will give your mind the whole details and ur mind fill in the missing places but when you try to see everything u will see blur

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +2

      Yes, you're both spot on! You do still want to maintain peripheral awareness, without trying to make the periphery all sharp and clear like your central vision.
      Quick story: One of my myopic students is married to someone with perfect sight. When she was learning about central fixation, she wanted to test it out in her husband. She placed an eye chart on the wall next to a clock. She asked her husband to look at the eye chart, then she asked him if he could tell what time it was without looking at the clock. He said no (because it was in the periphery, and the periphery can't see as many details as the center) and she was blown away, because she previously had assumed that he could see EVERYTHING equally clearly all at once.

  • @davidcook1246
    @davidcook1246 Год назад +6

    I have been on the vision improvement journey for about six months, and I have noticed that running is a big trigger for long lasting clear flashes. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this, or can make sense of it?

    • @oneaurora
      @oneaurora Год назад +3

      Clear flashes happen more often for me when I'm running too... I don't really know why it happens but my guess it is some combination of the movement (both the landscape passing by and the increased blood flow) as well as the mental relaxation associated with being in the "flow" of running.

    • @Immiy0
      @Immiy0 Год назад +1

      Yes, you are moving, which in itself can be relaxing and also improving your circulation etc, but as oneaurora says as well, probably because you allow yourself to percieve everything moving when you run, which means you just have to shift your eyes and cannot stare

    • @regishaiba
      @regishaiba Год назад +1

      Optic flow (like Long Swing, Rocking, driving a car, riding a bike) and body adjusting itself in an uncounsciouss level.
      My uncle improved his right eye 20/20 by driving his motorbike.
      I guess three things improved his right eye -- and only the right one:
      - back position, when you are driving a motorbike you need to get in a certain position, a good one. Back position helps the neck as well.
      - checking the mirrors of the motobike often.
      - optic flow.
      I think he improve only his right eye by only checking the right mirror of the motorbike.
      I know a guy that improved his both eyes in +0.75 just by driving his car the whole day for months (his job was driving) Since in the car the person uses more mirrors, the improvement should be more equal. But this is just a hypothesis of mine, because when I use mirrors my vision improves too.

    • @Bernardo-mt8ho
      @Bernardo-mt8ho Год назад

      When you are running you have no way to scan the enviroment with your eyes, mostly it gets static giving you stabilization.
      Notice, when you are walking there is an old "virus" of your parents sending messages to you to "pay attention" or "don't you look where you are stepping?"
      The brain associates gait, walk, step with disrupt eye stabilization, then every step you do you uncounsciously let your world unstable by moving one/both eye(s) or moving your head in order to check out your steps all the time.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Same. Not just running though... biking, skateboarding, snowboarding, swimming, etc. anything that promotes blood flow, lymph flow, and getting into the "flow state" can bring you into the present moment, connect you with your breath, connect you with your environment, and connect your eyes and mind. Plus, all the oppositional movement in your peripheral vision can be very relaxing, and therefore lead to more clarity in your central vision. Keep running to clear your vision, but remember it's not a race ;)

  • @judyutley8154
    @judyutley8154 2 месяца назад

    23:15 When I was younger they said i had astigmatism in left eye did wear glasses as i got older i stopped wearing glasses i had my eyes checked about 8 years ago only need glasses when reading i didnt wear them long story short since October i have had some blurred version in my left eye right eye is fine how do I help my left eye .I am opened to this any suggestions.please This is very intresting 🥰

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Месяц назад

      The topic of this video (central fixation) is designed to help you get more clarity back in your central visual field, by allowing your peripheral visual field to be less distinct. So I would apply that concept to both of your eyes and see if it helps. How small are you able to make your central vision? Dr. Bates invited us to make it as small as a mathematical point, which is even tinier than the period at the end of this sentence.

  • @faduelos
    @faduelos Год назад

    Hi Nathan The age and hyperopia
    A large percentage of the elderly population over the age of 60 needs glasses to see closely and read.
    The question is whether the problem can be overcome through the Bates method

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Yes, the reason why so many people start needing reading glasses at 50 or 60 years of age is because no one is doing anything to prevent it. If people practiced the Bates Method, they may not need reading glasses until 70, 80, 90 or never! My vision teacher is in her 80s and still doesn't need reading glasses.

  • @timbaker7770
    @timbaker7770 Год назад +2

    My 8 year old has been told he has a lazy eye. This was never picked up by myself or his school before. He was prescribed glasses but he says they make his vision blurry and refuses to wear them. I was hoping you could tell me what exercises would benefit him. Many thanks!

    • @gkxq4
      @gkxq4 Год назад +1

      There’s a channel called posture pro she has videos on lazy eye you should check it out

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Hey Tim, it might be important to determine whether they mean "strabismus" or "amblyopia" when they say "lazy eye"... Either way, you might want to skim through Dr. Bates' chapters called Squint and Amblyopia: Their Cause And Cure from his book Perfect Sight Without Glasses, or listen to the Better Eyesight Podcast episodes about lazy eye - www.bettereyesightpodcast.com/home/november1920

  • @C0D3O
    @C0D3O Год назад

    what if I have never worn glasses etc, but I have bad eye sight staring at screens all day long, will this "new" way of seeing things work for me?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Good question! Although the majority of people are probably utilizing the Bates Method as a "reversal" method to vision problems that have already developed, or glasses have already been worn, it actually also works well as a preventative" method for people like you who may have not developed a vision problem quite yet. By practicing good vision habits and maybe even some of the good vision relaxation practices, you may indeed preserve the sight you have, and who knows maybe even improve it a little bit!

  • @tghybk9128
    @tghybk9128 Год назад

    hi, nathan , i heard that you improved vision faster with drJerrian taber than practising alone. what was the difference that make you improve quicker??

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Several factors made a big difference. Before I had a vision teacher, I was only doing my vision practices a couple times a week, and I wasn't even totally sure I was doing them 100% correctly. Once I had a coach that was checking up on me regularly, that level of accountability helped me step up and increase the frequency of my practice. She was also able to point out things I was doing incorrectly, and showed me how to perform the practices the right way. Also, before I worked with Dr. Taber, I was focusing primarily on the physical practices. Not only did she introduce me to a lot more mental practices, but also helped me address the underlying emotional root causes of my myopia from childhood, which I had not taken into account prior to working with her. So it was like night and day comparing trying to do it all by myself and feeling a little lost, to just being able to sit back, relax, and follow the instructions from a professional.

  • @Jackson.T
    @Jackson.T Год назад

    So would pinhole glasses help with central fixation?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Yep! As long as you don't go back to "diffusion" when you take them off.

  • @alexlevkov6950
    @alexlevkov6950 Год назад +1

    Dear Nathan, please explain. Whenever I focus my eyes on more narrow view it feels more stressful. I though central fixation is reducing stress so what am I missing? Thank you ❤

    • @Plainandsimple25
      @Plainandsimple25 Год назад +2

      I find this happening too, when I try central fixation I find my eyes feel tense, I have only been trying it a few days so I think it will probably slowly get easier over time, I'm going to keep practicing. I also found swinging difficult at first, so hard to relax but after doing it everyday for a few weeks it's starting to get easier

    • @Immiy0
      @Immiy0 Год назад +3

      Don't try so hard. I know this sounds impossible, but when you are looking at something ahead of you, like a sign, try to mentally focus(not strain!) On the corner of the sign, while keeping your peripheral vision available. Sometimes it helps to imagine you are seeing from the back of your head. It feels different, and if you are doing it right you won't actually be able to feel your eyes and will feel a release of tension at the back if the skull. It can feel very strange if you have not done it for a long time or ever, and requires a trust that things will be ok even if you are not trying so hard. X

    • @regishaiba
      @regishaiba Год назад

      There is a simple trick to get what central fixation means. Using a mirror, you center your body in a way that you cant see yourself in the reflection. So, now you relax your gaze, keep breathing and concentrates in your feet movements, side to side, back and forth, forgetting your eyes and head. The reflection of the enviroment will move slightly following your body movement.
      You, also, can try "infinity walk", there are videos here on RUclips explaining it.
      Basically, you relax your gaze (not trying to see) fixing in a specific target (it does not need to be clear, but you can start with your better visual distance) and walk back and forth, doing some steps while looking at the target. After few movements you will notice that you unlocked the world motion around you, like Augmented Reality. So, now you can play with the targets shifting while walking. With practice you will figure out that your body movement enhances those parallax effect (things near moving faster than distance things), the more you practice small the movement it will requires.
      The Key is breathing, for some weird reason breathe relaxes the ocular system and the upper body. You see a lot of people get into myopia due to pandenic, lack of movement (indoors), lack of sunlight, masks, lack of oxygen.

    • @regishaiba
      @regishaiba Год назад

      Also, massaging your face, back of the ear/ head, neck, and arms will improve your vision for a while.
      I was noting that glutes also impacts the neck, how we sit can affect our position.
      Other thing, if you have a weaker eye it is common that you do not use too much your leg and foot for that eye. So that foot and leg is just an acessory. Try to step the "weaker" foot front or at the same range of the stronger one, to not create other problems.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Alex, there is a chance that you are accidentally "staring" when attempting central fixation. Dr. Bates said "constant shifting is necessary to maintain central fixation." So if you shrink your central focal area down to a smaller size and it gets stuck in a stare, it will certainly create physical and mental strain. It's all about allowing that small central fixation point shift around from spot to spot, as you keep blinking and breathing. Negomi's tip about keeping your peripheral vision available is very important too. Central fixation is not "tunnel vision" where you tune out your periphery. And like Rachel suggested, it starts to get easier the more you play with it. Are you nearsighted or farsighted? If you are nearsighted, play with central fixation up close where it's already happening and you see more clearly. If you're farsighted, play with central fixation on distant objects first. Sometimes central fixation seems difficult in the areas that are blurrier, so notice central fixation where your vision is already clearer and it can start to expand into the areas that are blurrier.

  • @adityashukla3037
    @adityashukla3037 2 года назад

    If i can't see things clear how can i central fixate?? At distance things

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      If you are nearsighted, practice up close where things are already clear and you can easily tell the difference in detail and color between objects in your peripheral vision versus the object in your central vision. Then, when you look into the distance if the object in your central vision is blurry, simply see if you can notice that the objects in your peripheral vision appear "blurrier" than the "blurry" central object. Turn it into a game... up close call it the "Central is Best" game... in the distance switch it to the "Periphery is Worse" game. Keep it fun and don't try too hard!

  • @regishaiba
    @regishaiba Год назад +1

    Many people, me included, do not understand that breathing creates a little "wave movement" over our perception. It's hard to understand central fixation without natural breathing. Breathing creates a little wave movement over our perception. And when someone is seeing with the central fixation the whole external enviroment tends to move slightly, following breathing mechanism and also some micro movements of the body.
    Myopes tend to hold their breath a lot, it locks us in a vicious cycle.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      I love it when people explore the connection and influence between lungs and eyes, breath and vision. Breath is movement. Vision is movement. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jamesryan7662
    @jamesryan7662 Год назад

    does this work work farsightedness? how do you get the weaker eye to be as strong as the better eye?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Yes, Dr. Bates himself was farsighted, and reversed it naturally. If you want to hear that story, listen to Episode 20 of The Naked Eye Podcast - integraleyesight.com/podcast - and you should watch my RUclips video about using a "half patch" to learn more about balancing your two eyes.

  • @adventure09
    @adventure09 2 года назад +1

    I have been following you and been practising the Bates Method this whole year which has been a tremendous help for reversing myopia.
    Nathan, I was wondering if you know anything about the Bates Method helping people with visual snow.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      I am glad to hear it's working well for you so far! Visual snow is interesting... I have had a few students over the years who have experienced it. Some of them found the Bates practices to help quiet it down, while others did not notice much change. Could be worth experimenting with.

    • @adventure09
      @adventure09 Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld Up until now, I experience fluctuations in my visual field in terms of the visual snow. Depending on my mood, levels of stress, regularly exercising; some days are better than others. Rumors say that you have to keep away from all types of drugs, including those that come from behavioral addictions. So far I have been relapsing due to pornography addiction, so that could be why some people do not experience improvements in reducing the static visual snow.

  • @otiebrown9999
    @otiebrown9999 11 месяцев назад

    It is always great to go from 20/60 to 20/20.
    Took 2 years.

  • @MrBiewl
    @MrBiewl Год назад

    I have very high myopia, how do I train my eyesight? With glasses or without?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      All the Bates Method practices are meant to be practiced without wearing glasses or contacts. During other parts of your day, you can either try going without lenses (as long as you can stay relaxed) or use training glasses (slightly weaker prescription lenses). Here is a video about training glasses, which can help you "wean off" instead of "quit cold turkey" - ruclips.net/video/bD2v3oL_B6g/видео.html

  • @Bobby_Hall
    @Bobby_Hall Год назад +6

    This is a fantastic video. I’ve been nearsighted for many years (since I was 16) and have been interested in natural vision improvement for a long time. I read Dr. Bates’ book but my vision has gotten worse over the years, probably due to poor vision habits. I remember Bates talking about visualizing a tiny black dot and the blacker you can visualize it, the better. Sometimes I get flashes of clarity when I do this, but I never really thought about why this works or applied it to the concept of central fixation. Now this “black dot” technique makes much more sense to me.
    While watching this video, I decided to hold my phone a bit away from my face without glasses and try to focus on just one part of the screen, and your face seemed to “pop” more into focus for me. One thing I noticed when I get flashes of clarity is that sometimes my eyes water up and sting a bit. Is that normal? Anyway, I hope I can improve my vision because I absolutely hate wearing glasses and contacts and just want to see normal again!

    • @MrBiewl
      @MrBiewl Год назад

      Bobby, be careful, flashes could be something more serious. Vitreous detachment. I have, and I see a lot of flashes.

    • @Bobby_Hall
      @Bobby_Hall Год назад +1

      @@MrBiewl When you say flashes do you mean bright light? I just mean my eyes will sometimes focus better and then go blurry again after a few seconds, so I’m using “flash” to mean how long the clarity lasts.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Nice! The swinging black dot is one of my favorite tips from Dr. Bates, as it helped clear my vision up quite a lot. The watering and stinging is normal, but it should only be temporary. If you keep blinking, shifting, remembering/imagining the swinging black dot, it should keep your eyes relaxed. Lots of people accidentally stop blinking and start staring once a clear flash comes because it's so beautiful! But just keep your good vision habits going even as your vision clears, and that should help it feel more sustainable.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Dear Gabriel, like Bobby clarified, we are talking about "clear flashes", which is when the eyes start to see more clearly and focus better, not flashes of lights in the eyes. Because you are correct, flashing lights in the eyes could indicate an issue with the retinas or optic nerves. Thanks for pointing that out! Sometimes I refer to the moments of clarity as "clear waves" because a "flash" insinuates that it will be gone in an instant... whereas the Bates Method habits and techniques help us learn how to "surf the wave" of naturally clear vision.

  • @Ljubicamiljan
    @Ljubicamiljan Год назад +1

    Dear Nathan, I have been wearing glasses for 15 years. I am now 28 years old and i don't like glasses anymore.
    Suddnely i come across your videos.
    I really like what you do and I want to quickly start relaxing my eyes according to Bates method and your explanation.
    I've got -2 and -1.5 and astigmatism -1.
    My question is do I have to wear glasses at all? I can do daily activities wthout, but I don't dare to drive a car without glasses. It is not always easy without glasses I have 2 small children also, but if it has positive effect than i'm mot going to wear it...
    Sorry for my English,
    All the best for you
    Thanks for your answer

    • @Subject1097
      @Subject1097 Год назад +3

      When it comes to the Bates method he proposed heavily that you don’t wear glasses when using the method or at least often has possible mainly because glasses reinforce bad vision habits, you can still improve your vision naturally while wearing glasses but it will take longer. Dr Bates was discredited for his work largely because people would go without glasses and then get into car accidents, since he was a well respected doctor in his field he was protected legally. For me personally the main barrier for progress using the Bates method is opticians who are not educated on the method of natural vision improvement. Opticians are in the business of selling glasses so it’s not in their best interest to teach natural vision improvement as it makes them out of business, people then go to natural vision improvement coaches like Nathan to solve this problem but they aren’t paid what they are worth so that’s another problem. I know your message was directed towards Nathan not me but since I have had experience using the method I thought I would share my thoughts on what I think. There is a big educational aspect in regards to how the information is presented when it comes to natural vision improvement coach’s. It’s required that you have an understand of how vision works in order to improve it. If you don’t learn the method of how it works then your vision won’t improve. Techniques like centralisation, breaking the habit of staring, relaxation are all important and they have to be done consistently over a long enough period of time to ensure long term success. I have improved my vision naturally over the years but I’m never consistent with it because of stress from work. I understand why dr Bates was discredited and I sympathise with them. It’s sad really.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Glad you’re here! You can use your glasses when needed, for driving and watching your kids etc. but if you start going without them more and start practicing the Bates Method, you may improve to the point of not needing the glasses as much, or be able to get a weaker strength pair. If I were you the first thing I would do is get a pair of training glasses that don’t have astigmatism correction in them. I have a separate video about training glasses ruclips.net/video/bD2v3oL_B6g/видео.html

    • @Ljubicamiljan
      @Ljubicamiljan Год назад

      ​@@NathanOxenfeld Thank you verder much!
      Just for sure, glasses only with dioptrie?
      My son (6years) got +0.5 both of eyes and astigmatisme -0.75 . He used to do pacthing and glasses 3 years and last year noting. Doctor recomendes glasses but i don't think it is nessecery. Do you have advice for somthing to do with my son? Hé is realy happy to see me without glasses.
      Ps. I see alredy better!
      Greetings from Netherlands

  • @ManuelaM999
    @ManuelaM999 Год назад

    I wearing a glasses I have astigmatism, soo do I need exsercises with glasses or without?

  • @julainewilliams5329
    @julainewilliams5329 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, Nathan, that was patiently explained! I have 55 years of bad defusing to allow myself to let go of,. now. My right eye is more far focused and my left eye more near focused, with high astigmatism in both. Higher in the left. Would i be able to look forward to seeing the astigmatism melt away by practicing central focus with periphery awareness?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  2 года назад +2

      Yes, and I also want you to think about how the shifting helps decrease refractive errors like astigmatism. Dr. Bates said, "constant shifting is necessary to maintain central fixation." Therefore, it's not just the central fixation that helps, but the increased movements of the eyes. The more you stare, the more the astigmatism manifests. The more your eyes shift, the clearer it can get.

    • @melissaojala855
      @melissaojala855 2 года назад

      Yes! Me too. I found that out when using the Binoculars for my class. One eye is seeing long distance and the other closer. Also, I got headaches from letting my eyes lasp into poor habits of taking in the whole page. Thank-you for your comment.

    • @julainewilliams5329
      @julainewilliams5329 2 года назад

      Thanks for this knowledge and reminder, Nathan!

    • @julainewilliams5329
      @julainewilliams5329 2 года назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld thanks for this knowledge and reminder!

  • @darkypower4599
    @darkypower4599 Год назад +1

    Does this also help with static vision?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Can you please clarify what you mean by static vision?

    • @darkypower4599
      @darkypower4599 Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld Visual snow syndrome

  • @crislara5831
    @crislara5831 5 месяцев назад

    I watched a science video on PBS about vision.
    Central vision is what we are actually seeing it is very small ... And peripheral vision is a memory . So we aren't actually seeing what is in our peripheral vision .
    Our mind is making it up out of Memory.
    I wish I could remember the show.
    I think it's Nova I'll let you know when I find out.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  5 месяцев назад

      That's awesome! And that lines up perfectly with what Dr. Bates said, that vision is 90% mental and only 10% physical. So much of what we see is a product of our mind/memory. That's probably why Dr. Bates devoted so much of his methodology towards improving memory and imagination, which led to the majority of people's physical improvements. He was ahead of his time!

  • @kkevinj1
    @kkevinj1 9 месяцев назад

    Eye exercises can strengthen some eye muscles for sure, but really wont help distance vision, reading maybe with ciliary training and inversion

  • @dave3k
    @dave3k Год назад

    I have weak muscles in my eyes and need prisms. I really hope this can help because laser can’t fix this and contacts are a no go too 😢

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      If you’re referring to strabismus, then it might be helpful to think of it more as one muscle that is too tight and strained that is pulling the eye out of alignment, as opposed to your eye muscles being weak. If you think the muscles are weak and need to be strengthened, you may end up trying too hard and straining. But if you assume your eye muscles are already strained too much, then the solution is to relax them.

    • @dave3k
      @dave3k Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld Thanks for your thoughtful reply. How would I go about relaxing them? Less time looking at screens?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@dave3k sure, usually looking at 3D objects and into the distance is relaxing to the eyes. Not to mention doing regular relaxation practices taught by the Bates Method like Swinging, Sunning, Palming, etc.

  • @efengchang6230
    @efengchang6230 Год назад

    Can I cure my eyes with these methods,I am 13,am I too young for this or it’s for any ages

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      It's for all ages, and if anything, the earlier you start the better! Neuroplasticity tends to work better before the age of 25.

  • @divyanshu5253
    @divyanshu5253 2 года назад +2

    When I'm practicing bates method and relaxing in distance, eventually floaters appear, and they are really annoying... Any solution for them?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  2 года назад +6

      Keep on shifting! Usually the floaters are more noticeable when you start staring. Try to ignore the annoying floaters inside your eyes and focus your mind on the oppositional movement of the world that happens as a result of your eyes shifting and centralizing. Also, the enzyme "bromelain", which is found in pineapples (and supplements), is being studied as a potential way to decrease floaters through diet/nutrition.

    • @divyanshu5253
      @divyanshu5253 2 года назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld thanks a lot

  • @bushrashaikh3196
    @bushrashaikh3196 9 месяцев назад

    Can anyone tell me this technique in Urdu 😢 plzzz I really need help

  • @ericsilva7430
    @ericsilva7430 5 месяцев назад +1

    Eye exercises just simulate normal eye movement. I say there is no reason to do eye exercises; just go outside and use your eyes. If the eyes change distance and direction all the time, that great eye exercise and outside light is very health for the eyes.

  • @songs3280
    @songs3280 Год назад +1

    When I blink, I see more clearly, then I can't see again, I wonder why

  • @VishalRaoOnYouTube
    @VishalRaoOnYouTube 2 года назад +3

    21:36 - I'm going to call it "peripheral awareness" from now on instead of "peripheral vision"

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Great idea... it takes some of the pressure off of trying to see details in the periphery, which isn't even anatomically possible in the first place :)

  • @elinael8087
    @elinael8087 Год назад

    i've been doing these exercises for a few weeks and i feel like i'm seeing better the blurriness has lessened
    but when I put on the glasses and take them off after a certain period of time, it seems to me that the objects become blurry again and become clear again after 10 seconds or so.
    Is it because the exercises are beneficial or because of my psychology?

    • @elinael8087
      @elinael8087 Год назад

      I do palming at night and sleep. When I wake up in the morning, everything becomes very clear, but after a while it turns back to its original state, is this normal?

    • @adventure09
      @adventure09 Год назад +1

      ​@@elinael8087 It takes time to accustom yourself to a new way of seeing. The goal is to eliminate the conscious and unconscious strain that you have maintained for years. Once you have completed your daily vision practises, relaxation will follow. However, if you spend a lot of time close to a computer or using a phone, you may feel strain at some point as a result of old habits. Whenever this happens put on your weaker prescription glasses in order to minimize the excessive burden of strain.

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Yes, it is normal to experience fluctuations in visual acuity as you start to implement more Bates Method practices and habits. Hopefully with continued implementation, the moments of clarity will come more regularly and become more self-sustaining. Keep it up!

  • @matthewwilliams3827
    @matthewwilliams3827 Год назад +1

    This is like the polar opposite of what Mark Warren describes?

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +2

      Nope not necessarily. A lot of what Mark describes is in line with the original Bates Method. Mark calls it “triangulation” and Bates called it “central fixation”. Essentially the same thing, letting the central vision rest and shift while the peripheral vision is aware of motion happening in the surroundings.

    • @matthewwilliams3827
      @matthewwilliams3827 Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld thank you very much for your reply! 🙏

  • @xeropunt5749
    @xeropunt5749 2 года назад +2

    Please listen:
    The yogis who stick their arm up for years and it becomes stiff, immobile and virtually dead, need what?
    Relaxation?
    How would they _revitalize_ the arm, mainly the muscles, their movement & their blood flow?
    Does the stiff arm up in the air need relaxation? Or revitalization?
    Willed movement helps the arm regain its natural state; stretching and movement is never detrimental but always beneficial to any moving body part.
    I suffer from myopia, “relaxation” is not the main thing I’m looking for, I’m looking to resuscitate the muscles.
    The stroke victim needs relaxation or activation? The car accident victim needs relaxation or rehabilitation?
    *Release* the spaz and cramp of the ciliary muscles.
    *Balance* the 6 eye muscles to the proper proportions.
    I’m as relaxed as it can be, and still have blur; I need activation.
    A few minutes in the sun activates my vision where I see sparkling edges for example.
    Touching my eyes with my palms activates a connection. Energy moving between two parts.
    Also, I wash my eyes with cayenne extract, which helps many eye conditions; including cataracts, glaucoma and myopia, it is not relaxation, but activation.
    Let’s look into activation. Thank you.🙏

    • @Bernardo-mt8ho
      @Bernardo-mt8ho 2 года назад +1

      Makes sense, David De Angelis an italian guy who recovered from -2.5 also advocates some exercises. I also had a lot of clear flashes through out my 1 year journey of improving my eyesight, but it never last neither when I need the clear flash the most. So it would be at least do some workout exercises because the whole body is connected to the eyes. Not encourage any exercise or a little body activity in these sedentary pandemy seems like weird. Many of us got into myopia by not doing what we are meant to do: motion, movement, spread energy.

    • @xeropunt5749
      @xeropunt5749 2 года назад +1

      @@Bernardo-mt8ho
      Yes, move & rest. Repeat.
      It’s like obesity, fast more than you eat, move more than you rest. Evert time you gain vision, inertia, habits & debt keeps/returns you to blur, till the debt is paid off. Read with plus lenses, sun & look around in the near & distant, many times/day. Fast & palm. Use cayenne extract for eye washes & put a drop on you palms while palming. Eat garlic & cayenne for blood flow. Lose weight to improve blood circulation & stay away from the pre-diabetes & the resultant circulation loss. Put in many long sessions of eye rotations, near & far string focus, palming & sunning. Avoid near work or wear plus lenses. Pray & believe!!!:)

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Although there is much truth to your revelations, I want to remind you that people who have perfect sight are not "activating" anything to see clearly. It is happening more passively and automatically. I originally thought the same thing as you: "But wait, I AM relaxed, and yet I'm still seeing blur." But that is not 100% true. If you see blur, there is still strain. Your eyesight is like a biofeedback mechanism. If it is blurry, strain is present. If it is clear, relaxation is present. I totally get what you're saying though, and I agree that sufficient stimulation is necessary to reawaken the eyes. Rather than "activation", I use the term "dynamic relaxation", which refers to achieving a state of relaxation while the eyes are active. Why not have both activation and relaxation? They're not mutually exclusive.

    • @xeropunt5749
      @xeropunt5749 Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld
      Yes, we’re on the right path.
      As you said: perfect vision doesn’t need activation - true.
      But for the average myopic - every day living doesn’t do anything, neither sleep - they need some form of activation/stimulation.
      The perfect eyeball just needs to stay balanced.
      But I think in the myopic eyeball - some sets of muscles are atrophied, due to spasm, and others are overused instead, to a burry effect, this situation has become its norm.
      To rebalance the mechanics of the eyeball, relaxation IS needed, but not enough, because you can’t go about your day in super relaxation mode, you need exertion. Then effort/exertion to tone the muscles/nerves/fluids.
      Do the palming, do the sunning, do the drills, get your rest, get your nutrition, keep going… you’ll have clarity and more clarity, just keep it up.
      All my gains and failures have been by my doing and not doing…
      It’s the most important sense we have, besides common, lol, it’s worth the work. 🙏

  • @jazmineszlari414
    @jazmineszlari414 Год назад +1

    ,,Do you know your central vision is your size of the screen of itself?"
    No because the subtitles are my central vision since Im hungarian and lazy to just hear out the words😅

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад

      Just to be clear, your central vision is much smaller than your screen. It's closer to the size of the period at the end of this sentence, or one of the dots atop one of the "i"s. Almost like the size of a pixel! When you accidentally try and focus on the entire screen itself, that's what I refer to as "diffusion", which is a bad vision habit that leads to staring, straining, and blurring.

  • @someone-jl4sj
    @someone-jl4sj Год назад

    Isn't it almost proven that bates method doesn't work.
    I mean bates didn't know about elongation of eye ball

    • @sriramgovindarajan2585
      @sriramgovindarajan2585 Год назад +1

      Read bates magazines.he clearly mentions axial elongation

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      What makes you think Bates didn't know about eye elongation? That was essentially the crux of his whole approach. The first few chapters of his book go in depth into the research he did to discover how the oblique muscles are responsible for excessive elongation of the eyeball (myopia). Maybe you should read Dr. Bates' book Perfect Sight Without Glasses or listen to some early episodes of The Better Eyesight Podcast (bettereyesightpodcast.com) to get a better understanding of how Dr. Bates made his discoveries and to hear some more examples of how the Bates Method truly does work and has been helping people see clearer and function better for over 100 years. All the Bates practices are meant to either relax the oblique muscles to decrease eye elongation in the case of myopia, or to relax the recti muscles to increase axial length in the case of hyperopia/presbyopia. I hope that helps!

  • @iusedyourtowel6765
    @iusedyourtowel6765 4 месяца назад

    Only 101? I have my masters degree in the Bates method.

  • @thomascollins4693
    @thomascollins4693 Год назад

    In 1952, optometry professor Elwin Marg wrote of Bates, "Most of his claims and almost all of his theories have been considered false by practically all visual scientists."

    • @NathanOxenfeld
      @NathanOxenfeld  Год назад +1

      Despite what Elwin Marg wrote, many of Bates' claims and theories are true and efficacious when properly understood and implemented… especially when neuroscientists in the 21st century are backing up some of what Bates claimed 100 years ago.

    • @thomascollins4693
      @thomascollins4693 Год назад

      @@NathanOxenfeld OK

    • @Bernardo-mt8ho
      @Bernardo-mt8ho Год назад

      "The exercises I used to restore my ability to focus, both up-close and far-away, were based on the Bates Method (which works very well, despite the garbage that is written on Wikipedia about it), and Meier Schneider’s Yoga For Your Eyes."
      Dave Asprey, most famous biohacking, he reagained his vision to 20/15 after LASIK gone bad.

    • @thomascollins4693
      @thomascollins4693 Год назад

      @@Bernardo-mt8ho oh wow. All you have to do is take the vitamins he recommends. Please Bernardo. I appreciate your input but I have studied this and am not trying to sell anything. Best of luck however

    • @Bernardo-mt8ho
      @Bernardo-mt8ho Год назад

      @@thomascollins4693 I think you're jumping to conclusions too hasty for someone with a scientific mind.

  • @childcareinsights3100
    @childcareinsights3100 Год назад

    I would have watched more of your videos if you wouldn't push too much for making your videos, unnecessarily, long.