Ripping it up with the Audi RS5, JHM's Stage II and a dyno!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Yes, back on the dyno again this time with a stage II beta as well as JHM's full cat-back exhaust. I'm using the OEM air intakes with K&N drop-in panel filters.
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Thanks for your videos it really deepend the love for the rs5 8T
My pleasure! And yes, it most definitely transforms the RS5 for the better.
I've been debating between RS5 vs S5 3.0t ultrachager stage 2 +. ..something about the RS5 i can't get over. The fender flares and V8 exhaust sound is worth it alone.
The RS5 also has a wider wheel base, different sport differential and stability control, different shift logic, etc...There are a number of chassis tuning mechanisms on the RS5 which make it superior in that department. Plus it's rare and quite a special car. The S5 3.0T will be easier to make power but will never have the panache of an RS5. You already touched on the exhaust sound. With the JHM tune it's really an incredible package with an amazing engine and transmission. The way it zings to an 8500 rpm redline is something everyone should experience. Great time to buy one now as well!
Fantastic!
KOO! video, the intro music was spot on amigo!! Love the car
Looks like a baby R8 I fucking LOVE it!
Just to be clear, I’m looking at 365whp for stage 2 tune with awe catback, correct?
I'm guessing, it's probably 10-15hp more than what I was making on those runs due to how hot out it was. When you dyno on a really hot day, there are protections in place that dial back the timing when the engine gets hot.. Plus the fan can't duplicate what the car will experience when on the road. I made four passes and each one gained in hp mostly because the engine was heat soaked and I was actually cooling the intake tract with each successive run. I made less hp with the AWE vs. the JHM exhaust which is what's on the car in this video. As mods are added, the larger exhaust should make an even greater difference. But I made a few hp more with the JHM on a 10 degree hotter day which is actually impressive.
Isn't stock 450 hp???
@@Sailingwavez It's 450 at the crank stock
@@hanifsimpson isnt that still around 360whp?
@@RS5Fanatic what were your torque gains btw? isnt low end torque the b8s engines main weakness? did it improve a lot or remove that feeling of lacking torque?
Great video! Do you think JHM's cat-back makes that big of a difference? I currently have the AWE track exhaust
I am a big fan of the AWE exhaust. I had the AWE Track Extreme and then added their resonated downpipes to turn it into the touring (no droning!) and it's a nicely made system that sounds fantastic. The JHM will make more hp and it's also a valved system which is nice and it is quite a bit louder with the valves open (close to the AWE Track Extreme). If you're pinching pennies, I would do the tune first along with the RMR transmission cooler. Once you recover from that, look at switching out the exhaust. K&N panel filters too!
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whats the highest yield hp youve seen with all available mods on these?
have you ever seen any head work done such as porting, valve springs, valves, etc.?
I love how your wheel set up looks on that car. What size tire and wheel do you have. Offset backspacing etc. And did you lower the car?
20x10 forged KlassenID wheels, 285/30 tires and cannot remember the offset honestly. Car is lowered on the Bilstein PSS10 coilover kit.
Beautiful car. I’ve always loved these, but it’s a shame that all that work only gets 365 wheel😢 stock 1st gen coyote mustang does that. Mine with cams and intake and exhaust setup makes 475 whp
Right but your car is RWD, less drivetrain loss and dynos can't really be compared as they're all calibrated differently. One must look at the delta change between the before and after tune on the same dyno. We've seen as high as a 64 wheel hp change with the tune depending on mods. With just a cat-back, K&N filters and the tune, this car, weighing in at 4300 pounds with me in it, runs 11.90's at 116mph on an 85 degree day with a DA of around 3000. Do the math and that's about 500 flywheel hp. Plus everybody and their third cousin has a Mustang, and having driven/owned both, the RS5 is a far, far more engaging driving experience.
What is up with the ominous music at the beginning lol.
Startled me at 1:09. Sounds so good. Can I get the jhm stage 2 before installing the jhm catback? Also, do you plan on installing different intakes? Did the k&n dropins make a noticeable difference? Tyvm.
Yes, you can run stage 2 with the OEM exhaust. It'll be best with their full exhaust but you can also get the JHM X Pipe and add the rest of the exhaust later.
RS5 Fanatic I think that’ll be my plan. The x-pipe alone may be enough for me. Thanks a lot. Already watched your other vids and many of my questions have been answered.
I am curious as to why it does loose so much power to the wheels ? I understand awd power loss but it should be at least 400whp if its at 500 crank right? Maybe low reading dyno? I been wanting an RS5 I wonder what a couple gallons of E85 would do?
Yeah, low reading dyne but pretty norma for an RS5l. My drag strip times/trap speed indicate I'm making close to 500 flywheel hp. Ethanol would give you a bit more but you'll need to keep it to E40, E85 will eat the injectors. If you need more, JHM has headers now, lightweight flywheel and there's a supercharger in the works.
You are in Texas right?? We have a group called audi club san antonio or ACLS you have some good information and a beautiful car! We have audi runs and even small groups id be curious to see you run my APR tune A6
@@RS5Fanatic Also I was reading headers required a motor pull?
@@kevincampbell8936 That is, unfortunately, correct.
@@kevincampbell8936 Kevin, I'm in ACLS and I've driven with you before :). Yours is black, correct? I went on the last drive. Going to the state meet?
I'm thinking about tuning my Ride. Right now it is Bone Stock.
Send me an email, sales@redmistracing.com and I'll fill you in on all the details including pricing.
Is that the factory red? Looks amazing
It is indeed! Misano red is the official name.
Hi. Absolutely love the car and the color is just spot on 👌💥😍 im thinking about buying one 🤔🤤 what kinda fuel consumption are u getting when driving? My options are s5 3.0t or rs5 and i know i could daily drive the s5 but unsure about rs5 fuel consumption. And yes i know u shouldnt be thinking too much about that when driving n/a v8😂 but im a curious person.
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Mine gives 4kmpl in city and 8kmpl on highways.
My tuned S3 makes about the same numbers, but I’m yet to get her on a dyno. Btw you need to start an A3/S3 board on your forums!
We have one! forums.audirevolution.net/c/rs-s-a-3/34. Come on over!
Same numbers to the wheels or crank? Cause this is to the wheels. That’s impressive if it’s to the wheels as well! S3/RS3 are awesome!
That number are really low.
Every dyno is different and the important figure is delta change between modifications and dyno runs. Don't get caught up in the peak number, it's really meaningless. Realize this car probably weighs over 4300 pounds with me in it and I trap 116mph in the 1/4 mile. That puts it close to 500 flywheel hp. Not bad for a naturally aspirated 4.2L engine with nothing but an exhaust, filters and a tune.
@@RS5Fanatic What was your stock dyno numbers?
@@murazortv 323 whp...
Is JHM the best? I’ve seen APR, VF Engineering and more.
Is audi rs 5 not 450 hp stock?
Yes, 450hp stock.. Dynos measure hp at the wheels which includes parasitic drivetrain and frictional losses. When using a dyno, find a good one that's repeatable and maintained well with an operator who knows what they're doing. Once you have that, use the dyno as a tool for tuning/making improvements and measure the delta change between pre-modification and post-modification. Peak numbers tell you nothing and they can vary by 30hp or more depending on what dyno you're on. So ignore the peak numbers and look at the area under the curve as well as any changes to the area under the curve. Make sense?
What model year is that car
2013.
Does it feel faster with the tune compared to stock ?
There is no comparison, it feels substantially faster with the tune. I've had modifications on other vehicles where I thought "maybe it feels faster? but this is definitely not one of those situations. Completely transforms the car in the most positive way. You will literally laugh out loud at the difference. Had Audi done this from the get go the car would be legendary.
RS5 Fanatic wow sounds like a great upgrade. Thanks
RS5 Fanatic is it worth getting the tune with just a cat-back exhaust or with the additional intake, headers etc
@@user-wr6fk1jr9f Yes, it's designed for nothing but a cat-back exhaust and K&N panel filters but works with a completely stock car as well. There are a few owners with stage 2 on Audirevolution forum including myself. Sign up there, lots of good tech info and you can ask questions about stage 2. forums.audirevolution.net/c/a5-s5-rs5/13
So at crank its likely putting out around 500hp
Or very close to it. I need to weigh my car and calculate that with the trap speed to ultimately determine where it's at. But it makes a massive difference and there's so much more midrange vs. the stock tune. If you're interested in the tune, I'm a vendor for it. Just send an email, sales@redmistracing.com and I can provide all the details.
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aww, why no TQ numbers?
At the time, the dyno was set up with WinPep7 and not the newer 8 so there was no OBD dongle to plug in and record engine rpm necessary to get torque readings. I'll be back on the dyno in the not too distant future!
@@RS5Fanatic can’t wait for those torque numbers
@@fernocho6288 I'll try to schedule sooner than later. If it's not COVID hindering things, it's the entire state of Texas shutting down because they can't effectively manage their power supply. Been without power for four days and they apparently almost lost the entire grid for months. So much for the private sector and deregulation doing it better than government!
Looks and sounds so good but those numbers are sad it bums me out
Why does it make you sad? It's just a dyno. The peak numbers mean nothing. It's all about the delta change before and after a modification. A dyno's peak numbers could be off by a substantial amount (accuracy) but as long as it's precise/repeatable, it's a valid tuning tool. Look at it this way, I trap at 116mph which is a good 8mph up on the stock times.
What year rs5
2013. Would be the same for all 2013-2015 cars here in the States.
What torque did it make mate?
Richard, I wish I knew. Unfortunately, at the time, my Dyno guy ran Winpep7 so it didn't have an OBD interface and could not determine RPM. The good news is he's now upgraded to WinPep8 and I'll be going back to get torque numbers.
I ask because I've just had mine mapped at MRC and it made 374ps at the wheels with 414nm.
@@richardstarr5539 Yeah I saw, I'm the admin on the Facebook RS5 page :). Can't really compare dynos, cars have to be on the same dyno, same day. That's about 305 ft. pounds imperial. I know there's one other individual who ran on an updated dyno and was able to get a torque reading. He produced 368hp and 301ft. pounds of torque with Stage 2 but only had an x-pipe and not the full exhaust. I'll post a new video and numbers when I get back to the dyno. I also have been testing in the summer. In Texas. It's usually around 90F in the dyno room. So we'll see what she does this winter!
Yes mate, I know who you are, I've used your how to do guides 👍. As you say unless the cars are on the same Dyno at the same time then you will not get a true comparison. Mine was dyno'd in the winter so this will have an effect. I just wondered why there was no torque numbers on your post. Lovely car btw...👌
@@richardstarr5539 No worries, it was just the lack of proper software and an OBD input. On the Dyno question, yes, it really has to be the same dyno and same day. Helps if it's the same make of dyno. You can take your car to three different dynos on the same day, different makes, and all will read differently. It's why I always preach they're a tool for measuring delta change on your car when a modification is made. The actual peak numbers are meaningless for the most part. But any recorded increase or decrease in hp/torque on your car, same dyno, after a mod, is really what it's there for. In that way it's a very useful tool. The dyno I go to is repeatable but since he's upgraded to the latest software, I'll basically have to start over if that makes sense. I won't be able to compare the old numbers to the new. Kind of sucks but at least I'll have a torque reading!
Is it straight piped ?
It has a JHM 2.75" cat-back exhaust. OEM headers and catalytic converters are in place (they're one-piece units unfortunately). The JHM exhaust is valved so when open, it's very aggressive. Can quiet it down with the valves closed and there's no drone on the highway. Went from the AWE Touring to this.
Supercharger next?
E85 next! We'll see about supercharging..
Soo it’s not making 450hp as advertised??
@@RS5Fanatic Hi. What about gas smell with second cats delegated?
approx 30% power loss through the driveline
what do you mean? are the chart numbers underrated then?
too bad you used the worst microphone on the planet :( wanted to hear the exhaust
Well Nick, try spending a bit more time looking over my videos and you'd see I have several videos where you can hear the JHM exhaust quite well. That dyno room literally ends two feet from the back of the car, not exactly the best place acoustically to pick up the nuances of an exhaust note, especially over the roar of the dynamometer drums. But here's what you're looking for. ruclips.net/video/tMqMGIMvbS4/видео.html
All this anthropomorphism of cars with the dramatic music. Gets old. Just show the dyno pull. Either it's great or it's not.
The dyno plot is at the 2:27 mark. Can't please all people all the time.
@@RS5Fanatic Got it. Thanks.
Lmao it’s a 3 min vid bro relax
@@andom2326 It's been 4 months. Use deeper reasoning.
Lifted_Above u still replyin tho, stupid ass.