Is this still a good option in 2018 for the Canon 80d? I prefer constant aperture 2.8 than the image stabilized 10-18mm. I don't know if image stabilization at that wide of a lens is that critical.
I use this on my 5D Mark II and I love it. You can't go all the way down to 11 on it unless you are going to crop it out because you do get vignetting. Don't know if I spelled that right. I use it exclusively for video and am VERY pleased. Love your reviews.
Thanks Dave, I don't consider you an amateur, your way more experienced than most of us here. Thanks for the review, this lens is in my WANTED LIST. Thanks. By the way PHOTOZONE says this about the lens "The Tokina AF 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro DX is currently the best ultra-wide angle zoom lens for Canon EOS APS-C DSLRs".
Thanks for doing this review! I have heard so much about this lens, it was great to hear from someone who is not an "expert" talk more practically about what they liked about the lens, and how useful it was, in different situations. Thanks again!
Recently bought the tokina 12-24mm DX Pro II. Just used it for the first time in france shooting landscape and I must say its really amazing. The sharpness is incredible all the way through.
Of note, Kenko-Tokina and Hoya have a close working relationship, Tokina makes all of Hoya's own filters, as well as provided designs for 1st party lenses for Pentax when they were under Hoya ownership(which has since been spun off to Ricoh). The lens cap on the 11-16 even looks like a Pentax cap. I have this lens in Sony mount, picked it up partly thanks to watching your review as well as others. It does have some occasional issues with autofocus on the Sony, but very easy to manually focus and I've taken some beautiful shots with it and it makes a fantastic lens for astrophotography. Autofocus quirks aside, it's probably THE best Ultrawide for APS-C Sony bodies, and I'm glad I have it. Great review!
this lens is sharp, has good contrast and color..good build quality.. i had one, i sold it because i couldnt stand with its CA, even you step down the F to f11 it still has strong CA.. i changed to 10-22 canon and i love it.. this lens must have lens for videographer
yes, the autofocus motor is always in the lens (when talking about dslr's) the HSM or USM in the name of a lens is UltraSonicMotor (for autofocus) and HyperSonicMotor (still for the focus) so yes, the autofocus is always inside a lens. thats why its interresting "how fast it will autofocus" as its a lens thing and not a camerabody thing :) hope that helps :)
@UBMFilmsNmusic You are correct as are the many others who have pointed this out. While this lens isn't designed for use with full-frame bodies, it is an EF mount and CAN indeed be mounted onto a 5D. It loses a lot of its intended functionality, but yes, it can be mounted.
Dave thanks for the great review, I use a Tokina AT-X 35-70mm f/2.8 manual focus lens from my Minolta w/adapter on my Canon 30D and it works great. I saw this lens you reviewed advertised in Outdoor Photographer, so I searched for reviews. I will be adding this Tokina lens to my collection. Thanks again Jon.
Great review. Just one bone to pick- you compared this lens to the Canon 14mm L lens, which is comparing apples and oranges. The 14mm is a professional lens geared nearly entirely towards full-frame users. Comparable lenses include Canon's 10-22 ($750), Sigma 10-20 ($479) etc. Though few in this class offer constant aperture.
Just had mine delivered today. I was really impressed with how fast it was to be honest as well as the minimum focusing distance. Haven't tested out any video yet, but it was interesting to hear you talking about constant aperture. Nice review.
I have (& LOVE) this lens. For scenic vista photos, it can't be beat. I also use it at night in Tokyo, great results. Before I bought it, I read many of the reviews and found this had better reviews than the Canon. I'm glad I bought this as I put the extra money to the Canon 500 L!
This lens will physically fit on to a full-frame camera, but it is designed to work with crop-frame sensor cameras. If you put this on a 5D, there will be some vignetting as the light from the lens doesn't spread all the way over the sensor. It may not be a big problem for stills (you can zoom/crop in your photo editing software). For video, it may be a problem, but reduced if you use cinescope bars top and bottom in your final move (which effectively crops out the corners).
Dave, Thanks for the wonderful reviews and field tests. You do a fabulous job and go to great lengths. Much appreciated. Due to your review and from others, I picked up the Tokina 11-16 and it has quickly become my favorite lens in the bag. I use it on my T4i. I tested it quite a bit at Nat Camera against the L series 16-35 and I honestly liked this one much better. Best $600 I have spent in a long time. Makes all the difference in the world with low light levels and keeping ISO lower.
Dave. I regularly watch your channel and really enjoy your work. There is one thing that I have to tell you though. It really bothers me when you say that your not the best, or not the expert and generally lower the value of what you do as a pre-courser to your videos. IMHO, you are one of the most knowledgeable and entertaining to listen to. , I've learned a lot more from you than anyone else. That humble thing is nice but it doesn't serve you. YOU NEED TO OWN YOUR POWER.
Dave, just wanted to add: There are two versions of this lens one for APS-C sized Cameras and for Full sensor cameras. Obviously the APS-C version is cheaper than the Full frame camera version. So technically this lens would be good for Full frame cameras such as the 5D aswell
I cant say i am getting it fresh out of the shop, but i met a guy who bought it recently and he used it once and said it just wasn't for him, so he offered 380 for it with a Hoya 77mm UV filter so i couldn't refuse!
I am planning to get this lens next month. When I decided to look it up at Yodobashi Camera I was pleasantly surprised to see that Tokina released an updated version in early April (for Nikon, July for Canon). I haven't read any reviews yet about the DX II version, but I would assume it holds up as well if not better than the current version.
You get vignetting on a full frame with such lenses simply because the circular area of light filtered by the lens falls inside the rectangular sensor, so the corners aren't covered. The fix is to either change the focal length, effectively increasing the area of light, cropping the image to use only the part the light covers, or using a smaller sensor that fits inside the area of light.
I spent many nights researching this lens and it's one of the best for than focal range. I have mine on order and paid $800 Can. They are hard to get and most places have them as unavailable, as in your video. I honestly can't wait for this lens to come especially for taking family videos, and landscape photography. The only downside is it flairs pretty bad
Thanks for the review Dave! I am considering buying this lens. The info you provided will help me to decide whether to buy it or not. Like you presentation style as it is good on the ears and great on the brain.
lol I actually paused the video before you got to the aperture part to google the aperture specs, the constant aperture is a really cool feature. Having to stop down the aperture is bugs me about most zoom lenses. Great review!
Because about every three years, the new bodies have substantially newer features that warrant an upgrade from your old camera body. While camera bodies may not increase in terms of megapixels, the sensors themselves improve in terms of light sensitivity (ISO), noise reduction and dynamic range. Also, newer cameras are coming along with wi-fi, better video capabilities, support for multiple memory cards, etc.
They basically added two things: Better coating and internal focus motor. So if you are either planning on shooting towards the sun a lot (you will get less flare) or if you own a basic entry-model Nikon with no focus motor (I think the D7100 and above have it built in, so no worries there), it might be worth the price difference.
@BasiliusMagnus I didn't want to compare it to the Canon EF-S 10-22mm because it is not a constant aperture lens at 2.8 like the Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II. For my use in video having a constant aperture lens at 2.8 big deal so for me the Canon EF-S 10-22mm doesn't compare.
Really loved this review. You have some great input on the uses of the lens. I also really liked how you spoke plainly and made the terminology a little bit easier to grasp. Subscribed.
Great review. One of the things I've been looking for is VIDEO test footage so it was nice to see you include that in your review. Definitely going to be one of my next two lens purchases for the 7D.
@Jokker88 thats exactly what it means. I have a 5D MKII and a 60D and to anyone saying it wont mount. Go out and actually do it before you comment. Its on my 5D MKII right now.
there is no set focal length where a lens becomes fisheye, the more wide the lens is the more distortion is present, but usually it is lower than 10mm that it becomes really noticeable that it looks like a fisheye. but in order to get a lens wider than 10mm they have to construct the lens ashperically so it has to be a fisheye in order to be super wide. hope i helped!
I bought this lens base on this review, and its image quality and performances is very good. The only down size is that the zoom range is a bit restricted
I've got this on order. Looking forward to it with my 60D. BTW, I really appreciate your review style. Very down to earth. I may do this as my job, but I still often don't know what I'm doing, so it's nice to get a review where I don't have to pretend I already know everything.
Excellent review Dave. Thank you for always giving us the best information. I'm looking forward to your slider video now too. Those are some beautiful shots!
The nearest thing should be EF-S 10-22 USM, also cost around 650-700. These 2 lenses are neck and neck in overall performance though, 10-22 has the edge for wider range.
Great review!!! I have the lens and love it too!!! Still own the Sigma 10-20 f4-f5.6 which is not even near to any of the Tokina parameters...tried the Canon(wide zoom for crop sensor)as well, but simply the Tokina is the best wide zoom lens!!!
I'd say that the softness in this case is not coming from the shadows. There are two reasons for that softness. Firstly there is always a more or less present sharpness downfall on the rather less centered parts of the image depending on the lense, just like mentioned in the video. But I would never test a extreme wide angle lense like this on close distances, because of the distortion, which affects the sharpness on close distances. Test them on a landscape scene to get a better comparison.
Dave, I'm from Argentina & always see your reviews y other videos. You're ones of my referents on photography & video. Thank so much for your work, effort & share it wiht us. Sorry for my english!
Great review BUT the closest thing to this lens from Canon would be the EF-S 10-22mm USM (EF-S meaning that its meant for crop sensored bodys). That costs about 120 bucks more in the US. It has a better zoom range but its only f 3.5-4.5 so no fixed aperture like the Tokina. I havent read many reviews but its seems like the Tokina is better.
I think Philip Bloom uses the Tokina 11-16mm. The reason pro's do not like third party lens is because they can be a hit or miss. Sigma has been stepping up their product time this year giving Canon and Nikon a run for their money.
I played around with this lens a few weeks ago, and it's all metal. When you grab the focus ring, it's cold, heavy, and glides perfectly front to back. It will be mine...oh yes...it will be mine.
Love the video; was considering picking up one of these for myself. Anyway, just a point of order, you can hardly say that the Canon L lens is the next nearest competitor. It is a premium and 1st party brand and not even in the same focal range. If anything, you should compare it to the 10mm-20mm F3.5 Sigma.
thanks for the interesting review! good job! But you made one mistake comparing the 14mm L canon to the tokina, because there are actually 2 quite good comparable lenses: the 10-22mm from Canon and the 10-20mm from Sigma. They are pretty much in the same price-class (Canon costs more, Sigma less than the Tokina) but of course, they don't offer the 2.8 aperture but still, they are the Tokinas biggest opponents :D
the tokina mount does not have the canon crazy rubber ring that they have on their EF-S mounts. So on a full frame camera, the tokina is more like a 16mm f2.8 prime. Which is actually, still quite a steal at 600 USD ^^
Welcome to the wide angle side. (dark side) One thing to keep in mind is focus range the canon 15mm fish is 3ft so everything after 3 feet is in focus i think i saw 10 ft in the video.. just some thing i wish people would mention so you know if you can run n gun and not pull focus even at 2.8 awesome review
Thanks for the review, Doug. I've been following your videos here, and this review was really helpful. I'm going to get this lens for shooting night landscapes. Keep up the good work!
@drumat5280 Yes, you can mount it, but it will vignette quite a lot - there is a video of a 5d with it on YT, and it's not very usable on full-frame. Then again the Tokina is a *lot* sharper than the Canon 10-22. It does have some CA and is more prone to flaring, but the CA can easily be fixed with a program like DXO (which has great overall lens corrections). And if you use it indoors, there is no comparison, it beats the Canon hands-down.
Amazing. Thank you for the review. I recently got myself a Canon T3i, and is saving up for this already. I cannot wait to get my hands on one of these. Another I will be saving up for is the Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8.
Another comparison would be with the canon 10-22mm lens which unlike the 14mm L lens that's a prime lens, has a more comparable zoom range but it's f/3.5-4.5 instead of a constant 2.8. The 10-22mm is around $750 so the Tokina is still pretty attractive.
@igobyte Oh, I thought you meant that it couldn't fit it on the mount (I am pretty sure it can), it is just that once you get to 16mm you will see some vignetting. I thought I mentioned that in the video.
I have a 60D, I especially shoot films, and I think that's the wide angle lens I will buy. I would have like the Sigma 8mm - 16mm but the changing aperture of f4.5 - f5.6 is a big issue for me. But men, I've tried it at 8mm, and it's just amazing. -So two years after, do you still like it? -And what to you mean we are going to change the body every 2 or 3 years? Do you mean for better camera or life longevity? -And keep on the good job I watch you regularly.
10-22 AF works like a charm!!! Not that Tokina 11-16 is not good, it's great, but 10-22 is THAT good! Distortion is a tie. I like color on 11-16 but 10-22 wins out just by the tip of the nose for total sharpness.
@igobyte yes you can... have my 5d and the tokina hear. but you have "vignetting" (black! corners) from 11-15mm ^^ but hey, it works ^^ and, no it's not an EF-S lens... those are from canon
when i tried mine on a buddies 5D, it looked fine at 16mm, but had a crazy stuid amount of vegneting at 11mm, almost to an unusable point. But its such a good lens, i use it for most of my concert videos
Tokina make many lenses for canon and Nikon and are the only third party lenses I will use, after using every other lens manufacturers for modern cameras. Not saying that Zeiss or Leica are 3rd party, but never another sigma or tamron, but tokina are fantastic.
Sigma and Tamron have really stepped up their game. I highly suggest you rent one of their lenses from a store or online place and give them another shot :D Tamron's 24-70mm f/2.8 VC is one of their best selling lenses and alot of youtubers including dave here has one and love it.
I can agree that Sigma and Tamron have both VASTLY improved, but they still cannot reliably make the same lens identical to the next. The potential for getting a "SOFT" version of a lens is in the 60 Percentile, with both manufacturers. I have yet to buy a Tokina, Canon, or Fujinon lens that is poorly made. All Tamron, and Sigma Lenses I have used are absolute trash, over the last 4 years.
***** I have the Sigma 18-35 1.8 and a couple more others as well as a couple of Tokinas including the 11-16 2.8. I don't see what you have against Sigma but it may have to do with sample variance and you got the short end of the stick. While I would agree with you on Tokina being the better lens, I don't see anything wrong with Sigma lenses and the new 18-35 1.8 is my new favorite.
EF and EF-S lenses will fit on the EOS Rebels. If you go Full Frame like the 5D only an EF lens will work. So pretty much every lens canon and third partys makes will fit on a Rebel.
@drumat5280 No, you cannot. This will only work with APS-C-sized sensors. Something like the 60D would work, for example. To quote from the B&H product page: "This lens is designed for use with the EOS Digital Rebel series or other DSLR cameras with APS-C-sized sensors, including 7D, 60D, 50D, 40D, 30D and 20D cameras."
Hi there, actually according to several pro's this lens is better made and sharper than the equivalent Nikon or Canon models which are 3 times the price of this one, and they're mostly plastic where as this is mostly metal and it's made in Japan, I don't think it matters who makes the lens as long as it's good, also Zeiss make lot's of 3rd party lenses and they're considered one of the best lens makers worldwide and some of the most expensive. Thanks for the review, Jim
Wide angle is also good for perceived unstabilized video, I think that's the trick with GoPro cameras. I wish there was an F1.4 optical stabilized prime ;)
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Is this still a good option in 2018 for the Canon 80d? I prefer constant aperture 2.8 than the image stabilized 10-18mm. I don't know if image stabilization at that wide of a lens is that critical.
Hi Dave
What about the tokina 11-20?
I haven't been able to find a decent comparison between the 2 lens.
I use this on my 5D Mark II and I love it. You can't go all the way down to 11 on it unless you are going to crop it out because you do get vignetting. Don't know if I spelled that right. I use it exclusively for video and am VERY pleased. Love your reviews.
Thanks Dave, I don't consider you an amateur, your way more experienced than most of us here. Thanks for the review, this lens is in my WANTED LIST. Thanks. By the way PHOTOZONE says this about the lens "The Tokina AF 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro DX is currently the best ultra-wide angle zoom lens for Canon EOS APS-C DSLRs".
Thanks for doing this review! I have heard so much about this lens, it was great to hear from someone who is not an "expert" talk more practically about what they liked about the lens, and how useful it was, in different situations. Thanks again!
Recently bought the tokina 12-24mm DX Pro II. Just used it for the first time in france shooting landscape and I must say its really amazing. The sharpness is incredible all the way through.
Of note, Kenko-Tokina and Hoya have a close working relationship, Tokina makes all of Hoya's own filters, as well as provided designs for 1st party lenses for Pentax when they were under Hoya ownership(which has since been spun off to Ricoh). The lens cap on the 11-16 even looks like a Pentax cap.
I have this lens in Sony mount, picked it up partly thanks to watching your review as well as others. It does have some occasional issues with autofocus on the Sony, but very easy to manually focus and I've taken some beautiful shots with it and it makes a fantastic lens for astrophotography. Autofocus quirks aside, it's probably THE best Ultrawide for APS-C Sony bodies, and I'm glad I have it. Great review!
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this lens is sharp, has good contrast and color..good build quality..
i had one, i sold it because i couldnt stand with its CA, even you step down the F to f11 it still has strong CA.. i changed to 10-22 canon and i love it..
this lens must have lens for videographer
yes, the autofocus motor is always in the lens (when talking about dslr's) the HSM or USM in the name of a lens is UltraSonicMotor (for autofocus) and HyperSonicMotor (still for the focus) so yes, the autofocus is always inside a lens. thats why its interresting "how fast it will autofocus" as its a lens thing and not a camerabody thing :)
hope that helps :)
@UBMFilmsNmusic You are correct as are the many others who have pointed this out. While this lens isn't designed for use with full-frame bodies, it is an EF mount and CAN indeed be mounted onto a 5D. It loses a lot of its intended functionality, but yes, it can be mounted.
Just order the DXII for my D5100. Been waiting over a year for Tokina to release one with the built in motor...... Thank you for the great review!
I have this lens and I'm happy to see that others think it's a good investment. I realy like it and use it a lot with my 60D
Dave thanks for the great review, I use a Tokina AT-X 35-70mm f/2.8 manual focus lens from my Minolta w/adapter on my Canon 30D and it works great. I saw this lens you reviewed advertised in Outdoor Photographer, so I searched for reviews. I will be adding this Tokina lens to my collection. Thanks again Jon.
Just bought this lens two days ago. It's expensive! $720 now on B&H.
I'm going to review this badboy soon! Really love your videos Dave!
Great review. Just one bone to pick- you compared this lens to the Canon 14mm L lens, which is comparing apples and oranges. The 14mm is a professional lens geared nearly entirely towards full-frame users. Comparable lenses include Canon's 10-22 ($750), Sigma 10-20 ($479) etc. Though few in this class offer constant aperture.
You are right Dave, this lens on a 5D is usable only from 15, a wider angle will show some black borders...
Just had mine delivered today. I was really impressed with how fast it was to be honest as well as the minimum focusing distance. Haven't tested out any video yet, but it was interesting to hear you talking about constant aperture.
Nice review.
I have a few Tokina lenses, and yes, they're fabulous - - not to mention also very solidly built.
I have (& LOVE) this lens. For scenic vista photos, it can't be beat. I also use it at night in Tokyo, great results. Before I bought it, I read many of the reviews and found this had better reviews than the Canon. I'm glad I bought this as I put the extra money to the Canon 500 L!
This lens will physically fit on to a full-frame camera, but it is designed to work with crop-frame sensor cameras. If you put this on a 5D, there will be some vignetting as the light from the lens doesn't spread all the way over the sensor. It may not be a big problem for stills (you can zoom/crop in your photo editing software). For video, it may be a problem, but reduced if you use cinescope bars top and bottom in your final move (which effectively crops out the corners).
Dave,
Thanks for the wonderful reviews and field tests. You do a fabulous job and go to great lengths. Much appreciated. Due to your review and from others, I picked up the Tokina 11-16 and it has quickly become my favorite lens in the bag. I use it on my T4i. I tested it quite a bit at Nat Camera against the L series 16-35 and I honestly liked this one much better. Best $600 I have spent in a long time. Makes all the difference in the world with low light levels and keeping ISO lower.
Dave. I regularly watch your channel and really enjoy your work. There is one thing that I have to tell you though. It really bothers me when you say that your not the best, or not the expert and generally lower the value of what you do as a pre-courser to your videos. IMHO, you are one of the most knowledgeable and entertaining to listen to. , I've learned a lot more from you than anyone else. That humble thing is nice but it doesn't serve you. YOU NEED TO OWN YOUR POWER.
@YGMedia It is the Konova slider and I have a review of it coming up next week.
Dave, just wanted to add: There are two versions of this lens one for APS-C sized Cameras and for Full sensor cameras. Obviously the APS-C version is cheaper than the Full frame camera version. So technically this lens would be good for Full frame cameras such as the 5D aswell
I cant say i am getting it fresh out of the shop, but i met a guy who bought it recently and he used it once and said it just wasn't for him, so he offered 380 for it with a Hoya 77mm UV filter so i couldn't refuse!
I am planning to get this lens next month. When I decided to look it up at Yodobashi Camera I was pleasantly surprised to see that Tokina released an updated version in early April (for Nikon, July for Canon). I haven't read any reviews yet about the DX II version, but I would assume it holds up as well if not better than the current version.
You get vignetting on a full frame with such lenses simply because the circular area of light filtered by the lens falls inside the rectangular sensor, so the corners aren't covered. The fix is to either change the focal length, effectively increasing the area of light, cropping the image to use only the part the light covers, or using a smaller sensor that fits inside the area of light.
I spent many nights researching this lens and it's one of the best for than focal range. I have mine on order and paid $800 Can. They are hard to get and most places have them as unavailable, as in your video. I honestly can't wait for this lens to come especially for taking family videos, and landscape photography. The only downside is it flairs pretty bad
Thanks for the review Dave! I am considering buying this lens. The info you provided will help me to decide whether to buy it or not. Like you presentation style as it is good on the ears and great on the brain.
My twin brother Antonio is right. Great info. I just subscribed.
lol I actually paused the video before you got to the aperture part to google the aperture specs, the constant aperture is a really cool feature. Having to stop down the aperture is bugs me about most zoom lenses. Great review!
Because about every three years, the new bodies have substantially newer features that warrant an upgrade from your old camera body. While camera bodies may not increase in terms of megapixels, the sensors themselves improve in terms of light sensitivity (ISO), noise reduction and dynamic range. Also, newer cameras are coming along with wi-fi, better video capabilities, support for multiple memory cards, etc.
They basically added two things: Better coating and internal focus motor. So if you are either planning on shooting towards the sun a lot (you will get less flare) or if you own a basic entry-model Nikon with no focus motor (I think the D7100 and above have it built in, so no worries there), it might be worth the price difference.
Dave, you always cover the areas that I seem to need to know about. I appreciate your time and reviews.
I just got it today and I am loving it. It's quite sharp and cheap. For 600 bucks, not bad at all
Thanks for the review. I have just got this lens and am amazed by its versatility.
Thanks for your honesty and clarity of speech.
Look at the Tokina 35mm macro 2.8. I have both and love them.. 35mm as sharp as this one and on crop sensor gives a view of a 50 mm. Great review..
@BasiliusMagnus I didn't want to compare it to the Canon EF-S 10-22mm because it is not a constant aperture lens at 2.8 like the Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II. For my use in video having a constant aperture lens at 2.8 big deal so for me the Canon EF-S 10-22mm doesn't compare.
I know its 2018, but I like the optimistic and honest way you explain... and probably I will purchase that lense next year... it stills rock
Really loved this review. You have some great input on the uses of the lens. I also really liked how you spoke plainly and made the terminology a little bit easier to grasp. Subscribed.
Great review. One of the things I've been looking for is VIDEO test footage so it was nice to see you include that in your review. Definitely going to be one of my next two lens purchases for the 7D.
@igobyte it not meant for full frame sensors. But it can be mounted on a 5d.. it only works at 16mm.. at 11mm you get severe vignetting :)
I grabbed this lens for all the reasons you mention. Nice to see some good videos from amateur perspective. Keep up the good work.
@Jokker88 thats exactly what it means. I have a 5D MKII and a 60D and to anyone saying it wont mount. Go out and actually do it before you comment. Its on my 5D MKII right now.
there is no set focal length where a lens becomes fisheye, the more wide the lens is the more distortion is present, but usually it is lower than 10mm that it becomes really noticeable that it looks like a fisheye. but in order to get a lens wider than 10mm they have to construct the lens ashperically so it has to be a fisheye in order to be super wide. hope i helped!
I bought this lens base on this review, and its image quality and performances is very good. The only down size is that the zoom range is a bit restricted
I've got this on order. Looking forward to it with my 60D.
BTW, I really appreciate your review style. Very down to earth. I may do this as my job, but I still often don't know what I'm doing, so it's nice to get a review where I don't have to pretend I already know everything.
Excellent review Dave. Thank you for always giving us the best information. I'm looking forward to your slider video now too. Those are some beautiful shots!
The nearest thing should be EF-S 10-22 USM, also cost around 650-700.
These 2 lenses are neck and neck in overall performance though, 10-22 has the edge for wider range.
Great review!!! I have the lens and love it too!!! Still own the Sigma 10-20 f4-f5.6 which is not even near to any of the Tokina parameters...tried the Canon(wide zoom for crop sensor)as well, but simply the Tokina is the best wide zoom lens!!!
I'd say that the softness in this case is not coming from the shadows. There are two reasons for that softness. Firstly there is always a more or less present sharpness downfall on the rather less centered parts of the image depending on the lense, just like mentioned in the video. But I would never test a extreme wide angle lense like this on close distances, because of the distortion, which affects the sharpness on close distances. Test them on a landscape scene to get a better comparison.
I love this lens. I use it all the time for my real estate videos and general outdoor stuff too. Awesome.
Dave, I'm from Argentina & always see your reviews y other videos. You're ones of my referents on photography & video. Thank so much for your work, effort & share it wiht us. Sorry for my english!
When you set the focal distance it is focused within that plane it doesn't stay in focus because it's fixed
Great review BUT the closest thing to this lens from Canon would be the EF-S 10-22mm USM (EF-S meaning that its meant for crop sensored bodys).
That costs about 120 bucks more in the US. It has a better zoom range but its only f 3.5-4.5 so no fixed aperture like the Tokina. I havent read many reviews but its seems like the Tokina is better.
I think Philip Bloom uses the Tokina 11-16mm.
The reason pro's do not like third party lens is because they can be a hit or miss. Sigma has been stepping up their product time this year giving Canon and Nikon a run for their money.
I played around with this lens a few weeks ago, and it's all metal. When you grab the focus ring, it's cold, heavy, and glides perfectly front to back. It will be mine...oh yes...it will be mine.
Love the video; was considering picking up one of these for myself.
Anyway, just a point of order, you can hardly say that the Canon L lens is the next nearest competitor. It is a premium and 1st party brand and not even in the same focal range. If anything, you should compare it to the 10mm-20mm F3.5 Sigma.
thanks for the interesting review! good job! But you made one mistake comparing the 14mm L canon to the tokina, because there are actually 2 quite good comparable lenses: the 10-22mm from Canon and the 10-20mm from Sigma. They are pretty much in the same price-class (Canon costs more, Sigma less than the Tokina) but of course, they don't offer the 2.8 aperture but still, they are the Tokinas biggest opponents :D
the tokina mount does not have the canon crazy rubber ring that they have on their EF-S mounts. So on a full frame camera, the tokina is more like a 16mm f2.8 prime. Which is actually, still quite a steal at 600 USD ^^
Welcome to the wide angle side. (dark side)
One thing to keep in mind is focus range the canon 15mm fish is 3ft so everything after 3 feet is in focus i think i saw 10 ft in the video.. just some thing i wish people would mention so you know if you can run n gun and not pull focus even at 2.8
awesome review
Thanks for the review, Doug. I've been following your videos here, and this review was really helpful. I'm going to get this lens for shooting night landscapes. Keep up the good work!
@drumat5280
Yes, you can mount it, but it will vignette quite a lot - there is a video of a 5d with it on YT, and it's not very usable on full-frame. Then again the Tokina is a *lot* sharper than the Canon 10-22. It does have some CA and is more prone to flaring, but the CA can easily be fixed with a program like DXO (which has great overall lens corrections). And if you use it indoors, there is no comparison, it beats the Canon hands-down.
Got a great deal on this lens, only 380! Cant wait to pick it up next week.
Excellent review. I wish there where more review like this on RUclips. Great format!
Amazing. Thank you for the review. I recently got myself a Canon T3i, and is saving up for this already. I cannot wait to get my hands on one of these. Another I will be saving up for is the Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8.
Another comparison would be with the canon 10-22mm lens which unlike the 14mm L lens that's a prime lens, has a more comparable zoom range but it's f/3.5-4.5 instead of a constant 2.8. The 10-22mm is around $750 so the Tokina is still pretty attractive.
Yes the 7D is a crop sensor camera.
@igobyte Oh, I thought you meant that it couldn't fit it on the mount (I am pretty sure it can), it is just that once you get to 16mm you will see some vignetting. I thought I mentioned that in the video.
I have a 60D, I especially shoot films, and I think that's the wide angle lens I will buy.
I would have like the Sigma 8mm - 16mm but the changing aperture of f4.5 - f5.6 is a big issue for me. But men, I've tried it at 8mm, and it's just amazing.
-So two years after, do you still like it?
-And what to you mean we are going to change the body every 2 or 3 years? Do you mean for better camera or life longevity?
-And keep on the good job I watch you regularly.
@PifWorks sorry it took so long I really wanted to use it before I reviewed it.
Love how humble you are man. Awesome video! Thanks!
Yes. There's a lot of night shot photography - even around RUclips - taken with this lens.
love the tokina 11-16mm we use it for all our property videos
10-22 AF works like a charm!!! Not that Tokina 11-16 is not good, it's great, but 10-22 is THAT good! Distortion is a tie. I like color on 11-16 but 10-22 wins out just by the tip of the nose for total sharpness.
That sliding effect @ 3:45 was excellent! Great review, by the way. I'd love to get this lens for my Nikon D3100
I like your casual and easy to understand DSLR vid's. Keep it up
@igobyte yes you can... have my 5d and the tokina hear. but you have "vignetting" (black! corners) from 11-15mm ^^
but hey, it works ^^
and, no it's not an EF-S lens... those are from canon
when i tried mine on a buddies 5D, it looked fine at 16mm, but had a crazy stuid amount of vegneting at 11mm, almost to an unusable point.
But its such a good lens, i use it for most of my concert videos
3:46... Wow. That is one hell of a shot man
Definitely on my to buy list! Really love watching all your videos.
Tokina make many lenses for canon and Nikon and are the only third party lenses I will use, after using every other lens manufacturers for modern cameras. Not saying that Zeiss or Leica are 3rd party, but never another sigma or tamron, but tokina are fantastic.
Sigma and Tamron have really stepped up their game. I highly suggest you rent one of their lenses from a store or online place and give them another shot :D
Tamron's 24-70mm f/2.8 VC is one of their best selling lenses and alot of youtubers including dave here has one and love it.
I can agree that Sigma and Tamron have both VASTLY improved, but they still cannot reliably make the same lens identical to the next. The potential for getting a "SOFT" version of a lens is in the 60 Percentile, with both manufacturers. I have yet to buy a Tokina, Canon, or Fujinon lens that is poorly made. All Tamron, and Sigma Lenses I have used are absolute trash, over the last 4 years.
*****
I have the Sigma 18-35 1.8 and a couple more others as well as a couple of Tokinas including the 11-16 2.8. I don't see what you have against Sigma but it may have to do with sample variance and you got the short end of the stick. While I would agree with you on Tokina being the better lens, I don't see anything wrong with Sigma lenses and the new 18-35 1.8 is my new favorite.
Your tracking shots of the lens itself are gorgeous! Great video
EF and EF-S lenses will fit on the EOS Rebels. If you go Full Frame like the 5D only an EF lens will work. So pretty much every lens canon and third partys makes will fit on a Rebel.
I like the bathroom example with the knife. Awesome review!
@drumat5280
That is what I meant. This lens is made for APS-C-sized sensors only. This simply will not work with the 5D.
Beautiful shot of Boulder Dave!
got one for 400 on craigslist... used it for one shoot ... sold it back on craigslist for 550... its a sick ass lens...
@Punisher4000 I live near Boulder Colorado. Wait until you see the video from my slider video that I am working on - it came out great!
Perfect video,I was looking for test of this lens and your review totaly helped me ! You are making great job,Dave !
one of the best reviews iv seen keep up the great work
@drumat5280
No, you cannot. This will only work with APS-C-sized sensors. Something like the 60D would work, for example.
To quote from the B&H product page:
"This lens is designed for use with the EOS Digital Rebel series or other DSLR cameras with APS-C-sized sensors, including 7D, 60D, 50D, 40D, 30D and 20D cameras."
Thanks for the input.
Dave, this has been very helpful for me. I am looking into adding a lens to my kit for my next trip. Thank you for the help.
I have to admit that this was a very good review. Keep up the good work.
Hi there, actually according to several pro's this lens is better made and sharper than the equivalent Nikon or Canon models which are 3 times the price of this one, and they're mostly plastic where as this is mostly metal and it's made in Japan, I don't think it matters who makes the lens as long as it's good, also Zeiss make lot's of 3rd party lenses and they're considered one of the best lens makers worldwide and some of the most expensive.
Thanks for the review, Jim
Wide angle is also good for perceived unstabilized video, I think that's the trick with GoPro cameras.
I wish there was an F1.4 optical stabilized prime ;)
what your opinion Tamron 10-24mm vs Tokina 11-16mm vs Canon 10-22mm ?
Dave, you lighting, color pallet, and demeanor are all in accord, something very hard to do. Thanks for the review.
@DigitalCable thanks!