There is often too much emphasis put on the use of HDR, in reality most people don't need it or use it. So to say the OLED is better because it has better HDR is such a huge red herring that will make zero difference to most people. The reality is that 99% of people that play PC games these days play competitive games and play them in SDR mode (This can be confirmed by looking at the most popular games (Apex Legends / Pubg / etc). The HDR mode is rarely touched because it gives very little and certainly no competitive edge. The other key mistake a lot of reviewers often make is that they think people buy these monitors to watch a lot of video content, again this is a misconception, Content is normally consumed through smart TVs these days and so when people have a choice of watching content through a small 27inch monitor or a 65 inch TV its pretty obvious which is the most popular choice. You also have to look at all directions of travel when it comes to technology advancement, yes there are advances in OLED but there are also advancements in IPS technologies too looking at the ULMB technology which has just been added to this monitor through a firmware update and you start to see something that will have significant advantages over OLED monitors.
OLED is objectively better than any LCD in every single scientific metric with the one exception of 100% white screen brightness. TO suggest otherwise is being completely ignorant of technology. And we haven't even gotten to things like perfect black uniformity and much much faster G2G response OLED will beat any LCD for motion clarity by a mile anyday. But due to nature of OLED screens even lower brightness appear much brighter and clearer especially as 10% windows and even 50% of the screen can get impressively bright especially new ones coming with heat sinks and 3 year warranty against burn in like MSI brands.
I think it's a misconception that most people only play competitive, fps games. Contrarily, there is a huge market for high resolution monitors with HDR to play hit games like Helldivers, RDR2, and GTA 6 in the future
@@tuksc to be clear no one said people only play competitive fps games. However looking at the popular games which have player counts to back up their popularity. In recent history at least it’s the competitive games which have tended to be FPS / Third person games which have garnered and maintained popularity (CS2 being a good example) Helldivers 2 was awesome but is dying fast now.
@@ads3453 Absolutely, there is no doubt fps games are the giants in the PC gaming sphere. I just think it's a stretch to say 99% of the playerbase plays only fps-I just wanted to shed some light on the portion of players that are not avid fps players (for example someone that works a 9-5), but still desire a high quality (HDR) experience. I myself would roll with an OLED display because even as a competitive fps player, the picture quality is still almost worth it. It just doesn't have the competitive edge just yet.
Bought this in August 2024 for $740 and I think its amazing. I have not played on a monitor with better clarity. I would love to have OLED but I cannot afford the burn in that I will definitely experience because I use it for work as well. It currently has the new firmware with ULMB, and the extreme OD setting is vastly better than what it was before the firmware update.
I played on XL2546 since two years, I really love the DyAC+ and the huge brightness of this screen even with DyAc+ on. Yesterday I received my VG27AQN and played with it all the evening on Warzone 2 with arround 200 fps. It was crazy good BUT I think ULMB 2.0 make the screen not bright enough FOR ME. Today, I tried without ULMB 2.0 and my GOD with OD on normal AND HOW MY GOD IT S BEAUTIFUL AND BRIGHT !!!! Huge games with immersive sensations ! 1440 IPS is so beautiful !!! I did not realise any blur problems without ULMB 2.0 THIS SCREEN with top end PC is SOOO GOOOD, I AM GONNA PLAY WAY TOO MUCH AND LOSE MY JOB 🤣🤣🤣😘
People get way too caught up in the brightness of the monitors. If your in a bright room with a lot of direct lighting then brightness can matter. However if you have controlled lighting or indirect lighting then the brightness of OLED displays is enough that you often need to turn it down.
I play most of my games during the day and my office room isn't the darkest. I have the IPS Asus rog 360hz monitor and really enjoying it but I want that crispness of the oled and the speed. Hopefully the revised oled screens will have more brightness in the future. 👍
Excellent review as usual. I ended up returning the LG Oled as it just didn't blow me away like I thought it would and the flicker with Gsync on was annoying. Now considering this one, though honestly I am pretty content with my AW2721D so may wait to see what other tech comes out down the line.
I also have the AW2721D and tried both the LG oled and this asus monitor. Returned both since they did not feel like a massive upgrade for the price. The alienware is a solid monitor. Benq xl2566k would be perfect if it was 1440p, insane motion clarity and responsiveness but 1080p 😫
@@drewstephenson5427 Glad to see I am not alone. I don’t think I will even bother with the ASUS. Mainly play Warzone and can’t really maintain a consistent frame rate over 240 anyway. The AW is still fantastic and feels like any upgrade at this point is just for the sake of upgrading. Maybe if ASUS come out with the 360 with BFI.
Problem with OLED is they are already burning in, they suck for production work and text clarity is awful. If you WFH a lot like me but also game OLED is basiclaly pointless right now. Hope that changes in the future, the burn in issues need some serious work.
Great review! Unfortunately Im both spoiled and cursed with the 2566k, the clarity and smoothness is just too good, too bad is 1080 but what can we do about it nothing performs like this one haha
yeah the prob is 1080p in some games its fine in others i would like to play in 1440p or even 4k... TN sucks in colors aswell. I like the new LG Oled 0.03 ms GTG, but probably its way to dark... the new 500Hz Monitors are coming soon, but its still only 1080p :X
@silverjoystix4696 gonna do the same. the zowie looks terrible in anything except gaming. its reminds me of the middle school computer lab monitors lol. with the ULMB2 firmware being actually BETTER than dyac mean the Zowie is officially dethroned. ik the asus is double the price but i mean best of the best right?
Having gamed on the the LG C2, at 4k with my 4090 I couldn't imagine not gaming on an OLED again. Good thing is this year it will be the year for OLED gaming monitors so if a better one comes along. My C2 can just become a TV somewhere in the house.
100% mannn, I have an LG C2 as well and just watching movies and TV on it is just incredible. Best purchase for media I have ever made. I can’t wait until next year when we start seeing cheaper OLED monitors maybe 1440 165hz or 4K 165hz around 500-700 bucks. I’m speaking it into existence 😬
Absolutely! And honestly that monitor is just a little too much. I am sure in game it looks fine but for desktop use, 20-30% more pixels would be fantasic
@@TooMuchTech Yeah that much more ppi definitely is a difference i agree. What would you recommend i choose for best gameplay and graphics with my 3090 and latest gpu ? I want that oled but the 360 hz would be nice .
@@johnathangonzo5837I have the Asus rog IPS 360hz 1440p and it's the best monitor iv ever owned. I was going tk buy the oled but I game during the day so brightness will be an issue for me 😔. Hopefully they get the brightness up for the new monitors coming out next year or whenever.
I love my AW3423DW but its huge issue is burn in. I just hope for a day where I can get all the benefits of OLED without burn in ( I know it takes a bit for OLED to burn in static images but its still an issue that can crop up early for unfortunate users ). I see people recommending me mini led but the blooming even with 1000+ or even 2000 zones is awful and annoying.
@@yahir03c All OLEDs burn in. Its inevitable and does not matter if they put multiple counter measures into to stop it. Its all based on how you use it. Play a lotta of the same game? likely burn in. Do a lot of browsing? Same thing. Its all inevitable and you need to take some care of the thing otherwise you will get it.
@@lilpain1997 ive been using my xps 17 (oled 4k) for college and gaming for the past 4 years, which is on about 5 hours a day and still I dont see any burn in.
I really looking into this when its below 1000$. I'd love to use OLED, but since I work from home and want to be able to sue a monitor with that price for all my tasks, this seems really like the best choice atm. especially when I have a 4k OLED TV that i can use for immersive gaming and content consumption. The only thing I would be missing i think is the insane response time/inputlag of OLED
I never see this thing in stock at MSRP. Going to try the OLED ASUS first, and if I don't like the downsides will do this and call it done. Currently rocking the PG279Q at 144hz
I’m waiting for Alienware to come out with a 27” OLED monitor to supplement the Alienware 34” OLED monitor I already have. Once you go OLED there’s no going back! Has anyone heard any rumors about a Alienware 27” OLED coming this year?
If anyone is thinking about getting this monitor, I want you to know to be careful as this monitor does NOT have 1ms as it claims on their official website. I was looking at this product on Amazon and in the title it noted it was 1ms I scrolled to specs and noticed it said 5, so I went to the asus website and it also said 1. So I went to a credible source that test monitors “rtings” and it’s in fact a 5ms. Disappointed. If that matters to you you’re welcome ;)
IPS is great, but mini-led beats everything else. I had a C2 and got light screen burn pretty quick that ended up being permanent. Luckily it was within the 30 day return at Amazon lol. It seems like mini led is the way to go if you're having any kind of static images, and now the blacks are SO DANG GOOD!
Is it even possible to burn in an OLED in 30 days? Didn’t it take Rtings like over 1000 hours to see any burn in in the worst case scenario? I’ve had my CX for 3 years now, and I only have image retention that is noticeable if run the static color slide show and the solid near-black grey screen is displayed.
Is the aqm much worst then this I want a 1440p as I have a 4090 13900k I’m just worried about going from 1080p to 2k that I’ll have a hard time with input lag
What's the absolute best 24-25inch IPS gaming monitor. Best for quality picture/colour accuracy and smooth gameplay. I been looking at Alienware mostly and they look good.
@@xxchanhonamxxyeah I think I'll hold out. I reckon they will bring in a updated version soon or next year I'll grab one then. This IPS 360hz is an awesome monitor
Id love to see this monitor with the ULMB2 update vs the OLED BOTH @ 240hz. Im debating these two but Im not gonna get 360 frames in any game I play. Would also love to see if motion on the 25" mod on the AQN is just as good.
I’ve used the Asus AQN (360hz IPS) and AQDM (240hz OLED) now for roughly a month, on a 4090; mainly with a game that I can hit 360 fps (Midair 2). They were extremely close, but I went with the AQN. The level of clarity that ULMB2 provides really closes the gap between the IPS/360hz and the OLED/240hz, but it's really neck and neck. Adding the backlight strobing to the AQN is a game-changer, but only if you value those extra 120 fps. If you 1. Own an AMD GPU, 2. Play games that don't hit 360 fps and are more graphics-focused, or 3. Consume content and don't require a display that can calibrate under 1 ΔE - I'd say the OLED is a no-brainer. If you mostly play one specific game, that hits a sustained 360 fps, and you value the ability to calibrate a monitor easily, I'd say the IPS is superior. But these are all on the margins. Both displays are absolutely insane! (One note: I don't know if this is true on the LG, but on the Asus OLED, if you tend to toggle between inputs, the software/menu system on the AQDM is maddeningly slow to respond - they definitely need to push out a firmware update to fix it. It's really bad.)
@@GraciousManatee I can probably hit those numbers (360fps) on fortnite but not much else. Have you tried the 25" 1080p mode? Im wondering if thats a good compromise until I get a 4090. PS- I use to play tribes ascend and logged hundreds of hours on it.
I haven’t tried that feature yet. I’ve heard some good things and some bad things, but I can certainly check it out. (Nice! Well, Midair 2 is great. Hopefully it will get released into open beta soon!)
The 25” mode with a 108 ppi will be the reason Ill purchase the monitor. I’ve wanted a higher refresh rate and ppi monitor. I didn’t even realize this monitor could do this.
I have this monitor for Overwatch but for some reason the newest updates have limited my fps to 240 regardless of settings, I only managed to get 360hz for like a day or two before my 4090 couldn't render the frames for some reason.
I will wait for the new Oled 480hz GUZ to be honest the image quality on pg27aqn doesn't seem high-end at all I had a cheap Samsung monitor and you barely can tell the difference between them which doesn't make sense to me.@@formidable2368
No HDMI 2.1 = no interest. DP 1.4 simply doesn't have the bandwidth for 1440p @360hz, meaning that DSC (display stream compression) will be active and adding a slight amount of input latency. And at this price that's simply a deal-breaker.
I mean to be Frank with you, I get why HDMI is important, but the input lag added from DP 1.4 compared to HDMI 2.1 is literally…. *irrelevant* But otherwise, yes for the price could it be better, of course. To my point early about the dimming zones(something that would actually elevate the performance/usability to the next level) it would also *increase the price* to the next level as well 🤣 When you want everything and the kitchen sink on a unique product, the price goes up up up
@@TooMuchTech thanks for the feedback. If you still have the LG OLED on hand I would be interested to get your impressions using HDMI 2.1 with CRU to tweak out the performance with 12bit color depth like zorz gaming did.
This panel/monitor is still one of the fastest IPS displays on the market according to Rtings/optimum tech graphs. Sure you could make the argument about HDMI 2.1 but this panel is incredibly fast for people looking for 1440p high refresh rate for esports titles.
Beats OLED in brightness and if it has BFI. That's where it ends.. Can't beat 0.1ms response time of OLEDs.. If they do a 360hz oled with BFI. Game over!
I mean I do have a full time job and I typically game at night or on the weekends, so maybe since boardzy sits in front of a window, it was a much bigger deal for him relative to his surroundings - BT, I am sure it is just a preference. I have been using OLED for so long now, I cant go back to staying on an IPS monitor long term lol
Reason Asus doesn't include ELMB Sync is simple, Nvidia hardware Gsync module. No Nvidia hardware Gsync module supports ELMB sync or ELMB, Only ULMB and ONLY when nvidia says it's ok. Notice Asus is releasing a new 300 hz QHD IPS monitor that DOES have ELMB Sync because it's Gsync compatible/freesync. No nvidia Gsync module = more features, nvidia does this to produce a consistent experience across it's lineup of certified hardware Gsync module displays.
@Phil agreed Sadly, it currently doesn't work with any refresh lower than 360 hz and it doesn't work with gsync so you'll get vsync lag unless you have a system with enough chops to do double the native refresh (720 fps) in order for the strobe to look good
@@eddi3x3 It works at 120hz and 240hz as well. Also you don't need double the framerate. You just need to be able keep above whatever you're using ULMB at (120hz, 240hz or 360hz). The screen tearing is unfortunate but at such a high framerate it's not that bad.
@@Phil_529 I'll need to wait for review cause mark from blur buster claims it only works at 360 hz because it does ksf phosphor with red strobe according to discorz (blur buster user) and strobing at lower refreshes would show the ksf red phosphor
@@TooMuchTech that is asus 240hz monitor I have heard this is even faster so can you tell is there any major difference while playing competitive games? How is this compared to alienware aw2723df
I think it is more of a side grade, not necessarily an upgrade. They trade blows for clarity, Asus wins in color, BenQ wins in motion clarity because it has BFI and better HDR Support
@@TooMuchTech There was no time stamp for the UFO test, I mainly come to your channel for the UFO test - Your Channel is a great resource for what store employee won't tell me and it is very useful for my own personal research hench why I have my 240 hz Zowie right now...from your channel after doing extensive research.
@@primordialious6945 Yeah I didnt put one there because I had a lot of explaination for it, so decided to group it with the other panel research findings as well. And nice! How do you like it so far? I am assuming the EX270QM?
Nope not going to even watch the video this monitor is trash with way to much blur nope nope only facts I’m a subscriber but no way is this thumbnail true!!!
OLED is objectively better than any LCD in every single scientific metric with the one exception of 100% white screen brightness. TO suggest otherwise is being completely ignorant of technology. And we haven't even gotten to things like perfect black uniformity and much much faster G2G response OLED will beat any LCD for motion clarity by a mile anyday. But due to nature of OLED screens even lower brightness appear much brighter and clearer especially as 10% windows and even 50% of the screen can get impressively bright especially new ones coming with heat sinks and 3 year warranty against burn in like MSI brands...
I now understand, I put the wrong monitor in the title at first haha Wait for the AQN to go on sale. But since I have both ATM, the older version is not bad at all, try and get a good deal on one used!
@@TooMuchTech The whole point of having OLED is that gray to gray transition time is super low, like 0.2ms. IPS monitors are fast but 4ms tops. OLED have no ghosting or smearing at all ! While all IPS monitors (no matter if they are even 480Hz) have it. So just high refresh rate doesnt make good monitor - you can have 144hz monitor look better IRL than 360hz monitor..
Oh I know, I really hope you didn’t miss the part of the video where I talked about the LG monitor that I also purchased 🤣 The thumbnail is for the views, the video is for the actual important purchase decision information
There is often too much emphasis put on the use of HDR, in reality most people don't need it or use it. So to say the OLED is better because it has better HDR is such a huge red herring that will make zero difference to most people. The reality is that 99% of people that play PC games these days play competitive games and play them in SDR mode (This can be confirmed by looking at the most popular games (Apex Legends / Pubg / etc). The HDR mode is rarely touched because it gives very little and certainly no competitive edge. The other key mistake a lot of reviewers often make is that they think people buy these monitors to watch a lot of video content, again this is a misconception, Content is normally consumed through smart TVs these days and so when people have a choice of watching content through a small 27inch monitor or a 65 inch TV its pretty obvious which is the most popular choice. You also have to look at all directions of travel when it comes to technology advancement, yes there are advances in OLED but there are also advancements in IPS technologies too looking at the ULMB technology which has just been added to this monitor through a firmware update and you start to see something that will have significant advantages over OLED monitors.
OLED is objectively better than any LCD in every single scientific metric with the one exception of 100% white screen brightness.
TO suggest otherwise is being completely ignorant of technology.
And we haven't even gotten to things like perfect black uniformity and much much faster G2G response
OLED will beat any LCD for motion clarity by a mile anyday.
But due to nature of OLED screens even lower brightness appear much brighter and clearer especially as 10% windows and even 50% of the screen can get impressively bright especially new ones coming with heat sinks and 3 year warranty against burn in like MSI brands.
I think it's a misconception that most people only play competitive, fps games. Contrarily, there is a huge market for high resolution monitors with HDR to play hit games like Helldivers, RDR2, and GTA 6 in the future
@@tuksc to be clear no one said people only play competitive fps games. However looking at the popular games which have player counts to back up their popularity. In recent history at least it’s the competitive games which have tended to be FPS / Third person games which have garnered and maintained popularity (CS2 being a good example) Helldivers 2 was awesome but is dying fast now.
@@ads3453 Absolutely, there is no doubt fps games are the giants in the PC gaming sphere. I just think it's a stretch to say 99% of the playerbase plays only fps-I just wanted to shed some light on the portion of players that are not avid fps players (for example someone that works a 9-5), but still desire a high quality (HDR) experience.
I myself would roll with an OLED display because even as a competitive fps player, the picture quality is still almost worth it. It just doesn't have the competitive edge just yet.
Bought this in August 2024 for $740 and I think its amazing. I have not played on a monitor with better clarity. I would love to have OLED but I cannot afford the burn in that I will definitely experience because I use it for work as well.
It currently has the new firmware with ULMB, and the extreme OD setting is vastly better than what it was before the firmware update.
I played on XL2546 since two years, I really love the DyAC+ and the huge brightness of this screen even with DyAc+ on. Yesterday I received my VG27AQN and played with it all the evening on Warzone 2 with arround 200 fps. It was crazy good BUT I think ULMB 2.0 make the screen not bright enough FOR ME. Today, I tried without ULMB 2.0 and my GOD with OD on normal AND HOW MY GOD IT S BEAUTIFUL AND BRIGHT !!!! Huge games with immersive sensations ! 1440 IPS is so beautiful !!! I did not realise any blur problems without ULMB 2.0 THIS SCREEN with top end PC is SOOO GOOOD, I AM GONNA PLAY WAY TOO MUCH AND LOSE MY JOB 🤣🤣🤣😘
After I upgraded to the Alienware QD OLED panel I couldn’t possibly imagine gaming on any other panel. This one is here to stay for a long time.
I agree, so happy I just put mine back up haha
That Alienware OLED is about $400 less than this piece of crap. This IPS panel should be no more than $800 and even that would be sus pricing.
Welp. That is basically what I was saying at the end of the video😅
If your goal is competitive gaming, the 360hz is better
@@deankruse2891 not really, ips 360hz has overshoot, motion blur and big response time. OLED basically had none of those
People get way too caught up in the brightness of the monitors. If your in a bright room with a lot of direct lighting then brightness can matter. However if you have controlled lighting or indirect lighting then the brightness of OLED displays is enough that you often need to turn it down.
I play most of my games during the day and my office room isn't the darkest. I have the IPS Asus rog 360hz monitor and really enjoying it but I want that crispness of the oled and the speed. Hopefully the revised oled screens will have more brightness in the future. 👍
Excellent review as usual. I ended up returning the LG Oled as it just didn't blow me away like I thought it would and the flicker with Gsync on was annoying. Now considering this one, though honestly I am pretty content with my AW2721D so may wait to see what other tech comes out down the line.
Not a massive upgrade from what you got, but keep holding tight, this year is going to be good! Thanks for watching of course
I also have the AW2721D and tried both the LG oled and this asus monitor. Returned both since they did not feel like a massive upgrade for the price. The alienware is a solid monitor. Benq xl2566k would be perfect if it was 1440p, insane motion clarity and responsiveness but 1080p 😫
@@drewstephenson5427 Glad to see I am not alone. I don’t think I will even bother with the ASUS. Mainly play Warzone and can’t really maintain a consistent frame rate over 240 anyway. The AW is still fantastic and feels like any upgrade at this point is just for the sake of upgrading. Maybe if ASUS come out with the 360 with BFI.
I agree, that is what Asus is missing for people that already have high end monitors for gaming
I’d say keep it the Alienware honestly, me and Kile bought it when it was on sale so it was tempting enough.
Problem with OLED is they are already burning in, they suck for production work and text clarity is awful. If you WFH a lot like me but also game OLED is basiclaly pointless right now. Hope that changes in the future, the burn in issues need some serious work.
Great review! Unfortunately Im both spoiled and cursed with the 2566k, the clarity and smoothness is just too good, too bad is 1080 but what can we do about it nothing performs like this one haha
yeah the prob is 1080p in some games its fine in others i would like to play in 1440p or even 4k... TN sucks in colors aswell. I like the new LG Oled 0.03 ms GTG, but probably its way to dark... the new 500Hz Monitors are coming soon, but its still only 1080p :X
@silverjoystix4696 gonna do the same. the zowie looks terrible in anything except gaming. its reminds me of the middle school computer lab monitors lol. with the ULMB2 firmware being actually BETTER than dyac mean the Zowie is officially dethroned. ik the asus is double the price but i mean best of the best right?
Having gamed on the the LG C2, at 4k with my 4090 I couldn't imagine not gaming on an OLED again.
Good thing is this year it will be the year for OLED gaming monitors so if a better one comes along. My C2 can just become a TV somewhere in the house.
100% mannn, I have an LG C2 as well and just watching movies and TV on it is just incredible. Best purchase for media I have ever made.
I can’t wait until next year when we start seeing cheaper OLED monitors maybe 1440 165hz or 4K 165hz around 500-700 bucks. I’m speaking it into existence 😬
Keep the good work bro 💪
Great job bro I appreciate your review and detailed information. Thanks
0:50 any chance you could link this wallpaper? it's gorgeous
Awesome review! Your stuff is so beautiful!! Well I got the xl2566k and this and will be comparing…. I’m less excited now for the Asus now..
Thanks for watching Zorz👀
@@TooMuchTech Always dude!
Glad they are making some strides with IPS... but OLED is love. OLED is Life.
couldnt agree more!
That's a short life too..LMFAO
@@mrwalker6026Still a life that someone can have if they want to. Ultimately, it is their decision.
@@mrwalker6026 I smell hater who most likely stuck on a cheap 60 hrz
@@Logan-ix8vh It's a joke man
Love the authentic reviews , and interesting they both have the same ppi at 110 . The bigger 45 inch lg oled only has 84 ppi.
Absolutely! And honestly that monitor is just a little too much. I am sure in game it looks fine but for desktop use, 20-30% more pixels would be fantasic
@@TooMuchTech Yeah that much more ppi definitely is a difference i agree. What would you recommend i choose for best gameplay and graphics with my 3090 and latest gpu ? I want that oled but the 360 hz would be nice .
@@johnathangonzo5837I have the Asus rog IPS 360hz 1440p and it's the best monitor iv ever owned. I was going tk buy the oled but I game during the day so brightness will be an issue for me 😔. Hopefully they get the brightness up for the new monitors coming out next year or whenever.
I love my AW3423DW but its huge issue is burn in. I just hope for a day where I can get all the benefits of OLED without burn in ( I know it takes a bit for OLED to burn in static images but its still an issue that can crop up early for unfortunate users ). I see people recommending me mini led but the blooming even with 1000+ or even 2000 zones is awful and annoying.
The new Oled Asus Rog monitor was especially made to not burn in, same price $999 as the LG 240hz oled
@@yahir03c All OLEDs burn in. Its inevitable and does not matter if they put multiple counter measures into to stop it. Its all based on how you use it. Play a lotta of the same game? likely burn in. Do a lot of browsing? Same thing. Its all inevitable and you need to take some care of the thing otherwise you will get it.
@@lilpain1997 ive been using my xps 17 (oled 4k) for college and gaming for the past 4 years, which is on about 5 hours a day and still I dont see any burn in.
I have the Alienware 34” OLED and have had zero issues with burn in.
@@seattlebicycler3657 update?
After using OLED as PC and gaming display AW3423DW and C2 will never even buy or use any LCD tech ever again.
Right
5:17 Yes please test out that monitor … I need to know what’s best between that one and the two in the video.
I really looking into this when its below 1000$. I'd love to use OLED, but since I work from home and want to be able to sue a monitor with that price for all my tasks, this seems really like the best choice atm. especially when I have a 4k OLED TV that i can use for immersive gaming and content consumption. The only thing I would be missing i think is the insane response time/inputlag of OLED
I would say response times as far as input lag are OLED-Like, but picture of course is more blurry than OLED
use not sue
@@TooMuchTech nothing beats oled
I never see this thing in stock at MSRP. Going to try the OLED ASUS first, and if I don't like the downsides will do this and call it done. Currently rocking the PG279Q at 144hz
I don’t blame you at all
Damn its actually in stock. NGL hardcore tempted to get this.
I’m waiting for Alienware to come out with a 27” OLED monitor to supplement the Alienware 34” OLED monitor I already have. Once you go OLED there’s no going back! Has anyone heard any rumors about a Alienware 27” OLED coming this year?
If anyone is thinking about getting this monitor, I want you to know to be careful as this monitor does NOT have 1ms as it claims on their official website. I was looking at this product on Amazon and in the title it noted it was 1ms I scrolled to specs and noticed it said 5, so I went to the asus website and it also said 1. So I went to a credible source that test monitors “rtings” and it’s in fact a 5ms. Disappointed. If that matters to you you’re welcome ;)
I have a 240hz version from Asus. should I upgrade? or is it waste of money?
Honestly, kind of a waste. I have the 240hz one too and it’s not a MASSIVE upgrade. Noticeable yes, massive? No
@@TooMuchTech oh ok thanks for saving me money. Lol.The only difference i can see is the price. Lol
When you can get the AW2723DF 280hz 1440p for $599, >$1K for this monitor is just too much. I agree, $749-799 would be much more appropriate.
IPS is great, but mini-led beats everything else. I had a C2 and got light screen burn pretty quick that ended up being permanent. Luckily it was within the 30 day return at Amazon lol. It seems like mini led is the way to go if you're having any kind of static images, and now the blacks are SO DANG GOOD!
I want to try one next, I want INNOCN or coolermaster to hit me up to be honest
@@TooMuchTech Crazy you say that I have a new sealed 44" innocn sitting in my closet. The limited reviews look promising.
Is it even possible to burn in an OLED in 30 days? Didn’t it take Rtings like over 1000 hours to see any burn in in the worst case scenario? I’ve had my CX for 3 years now, and I only have image retention that is noticeable if run the static color slide show and the solid near-black grey screen is displayed.
@@TheSpiral01 the C2 OLED by LG
Ips will never beat oled in contrast or gray to gray
They won't beat them on panel degradation either. lol
Is the aqm much worst then this I want a 1440p as I have a 4090 13900k I’m just worried about going from 1080p to 2k that I’ll have a hard time with input lag
What do you mean? I also have a 4090 and gaming in 4k 160 fps and all is great I only play competitive games
i enabled ulmb2 for playing CS2 and other games like valorant. ULMB 2 Pulse width is default at 100. Should i lower this and why?
Typo in the title, it should be PG279AQN not QM
Goated, I was up way too late last night haha🤣
I recently get a LG Ultragear 32GQ850 and that Nano IPS monitor is a beast of a monitor
yea but ulmb 2 was a game changer and put this monitor ahead for everything imo. It dumbstered my old 2546k and anything current atm.
What's the absolute best 24-25inch IPS gaming monitor. Best for quality picture/colour accuracy and smooth gameplay. I been looking at Alienware mostly and they look good.
Does the 25” work with the ps5?
I have the 360hz 27” PG27AQN monitor would it be a upgrade to go for the 360hz oled? Only used for fps gaming
I thought a 360hz oled could replace the PG27AQN. Returned the oled within a week due to lack of brightness. I can't see shit on an OLED lol
@@xxchanhonamxxyeah I think I'll hold out. I reckon they will bring in a updated version soon or next year I'll grab one then. This IPS 360hz is an awesome monitor
what is the best ulmb 2 pulse width percentage? what are you using?
6:55 It does have ULMB2, which is a totally new experience apparently.
Id love to see this monitor with the ULMB2 update vs the OLED BOTH @ 240hz. Im debating these two but Im not gonna get 360 frames in any game I play. Would also love to see if motion on the 25" mod on the AQN is just as good.
Go oled if you can't hit 360, oled outperforms this at 240hz, but 360 is where this monitor's truly insane performance becomes evident
I’ve used the Asus AQN (360hz IPS) and AQDM (240hz OLED) now for roughly a month, on a 4090; mainly with a game that I can hit 360 fps (Midair 2). They were extremely close, but I went with the AQN. The level of clarity that ULMB2 provides really closes the gap between the IPS/360hz and the OLED/240hz, but it's really neck and neck. Adding the backlight strobing to the AQN is a game-changer, but only if you value those extra 120 fps. If you 1. Own an AMD GPU, 2. Play games that don't hit 360 fps and are more graphics-focused, or 3. Consume content and don't require a display that can calibrate under 1 ΔE - I'd say the OLED is a no-brainer. If you mostly play one specific game, that hits a sustained 360 fps, and you value the ability to calibrate a monitor easily, I'd say the IPS is superior. But these are all on the margins. Both displays are absolutely insane! (One note: I don't know if this is true on the LG, but on the Asus OLED, if you tend to toggle between inputs, the software/menu system on the AQDM is maddeningly slow to respond - they definitely need to push out a firmware update to fix it. It's really bad.)
@@GraciousManatee I can probably hit those numbers (360fps) on fortnite but not much else. Have you tried the 25" 1080p mode? Im wondering if thats a good compromise until I get a 4090.
PS- I use to play tribes ascend and logged hundreds of hours on it.
I haven’t tried that feature yet. I’ve heard some good things and some bad things, but I can certainly check it out.
(Nice! Well, Midair 2 is great. Hopefully it will get released into open beta soon!)
@@GraciousManatee If you do try out that feature, please report back cause Id probably buy it asap.
The 25” mode with a 108 ppi will be the reason Ill purchase the monitor. I’ve wanted a higher refresh rate and ppi monitor. I didn’t even realize this monitor could do this.
It’s quite nice to have the capability!
Does the 25 inch work with the ps5 ?
@@lukekelly-hi3le not sure
@Doctor0Whoreally? I didn’t realize that
I returned this monitor because white colors was so dirty Dont know why
Built in crosshair osd and tweakable?
this with Nano-IPS and Mini LED would easily make it the best Monitor
Micro*** LED haha. Only 7 more years till we get those🤣
I have this monitor for Overwatch but for some reason the newest updates have limited my fps to 240 regardless of settings, I only managed to get 360hz for like a day or two before my 4090 couldn't render the frames for some reason.
Try to downgrade GPU firmware. Its probably the firmware that has a bug
do you have any dead pixels dude guz I noticed my new pg27aqn has two dead pixels! should I bother to change it or it will be the same?
Change it of course,never had a single problem on mine.
I will wait for the new Oled 480hz GUZ to be honest the image quality on pg27aqn doesn't seem high-end at all I had a cheap Samsung monitor and you barely can tell the difference between them which doesn't make sense to me.@@formidable2368
No HDMI 2.1 = no interest.
DP 1.4 simply doesn't have the bandwidth for 1440p @360hz, meaning that DSC (display stream compression) will be active and adding a slight amount of input latency. And at this price that's simply a deal-breaker.
I did not know this. Thanks for the info.
I mean to be Frank with you, I get why HDMI is important, but the input lag added from DP 1.4 compared to HDMI 2.1 is literally…. *irrelevant*
But otherwise, yes for the price could it be better, of course. To my point early about the dimming zones(something that would actually elevate the performance/usability to the next level) it would also *increase the price* to the next level as well 🤣
When you want everything and the kitchen sink on a unique product, the price goes up up up
@@TooMuchTech thanks for the feedback. If you still have the LG OLED on hand I would be interested to get your impressions using HDMI 2.1 with CRU to tweak out the performance with 12bit color depth like zorz gaming did.
This panel/monitor is still one of the fastest IPS displays on the market according to Rtings/optimum tech graphs.
Sure you could make the argument about HDMI 2.1 but this panel is incredibly fast for people looking for 1440p high refresh rate for esports titles.
How does ULMB2 change the review?
For warzone , what is the best please ? ❤
Let’s go!! 🔥
appreciate you my brotha
What’s the music at 8:30 ?
Beats OLED in brightness and if it has BFI. That's where it ends..
Can't beat 0.1ms response time of OLEDs.. If they do a 360hz oled with BFI. Game over!
Oh man, imagine. I hope it happens soon🤣
I have the PG27AQDM, and this PG27AQN. I still prefer my OLED.
What games do you play? Do you get 360+ fps and still prefer the OLED at 240hz?
@@themadman697 Destiny 2, Fallout 76, Golf with Friends lol, COD, 2042. I also use a 7950x3D and 4090.
Have you seen the new firmware for ULMB2?
Yeah I kinda wish I still had it to test lol, it looks dope
Discord gang!
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IT DOES HAVE ELMB2
Reviewers who compared these two monitors and their preferences
boardzy: Asus
BT: Asus
Techkile: LG
I mean I do have a full time job and I typically game at night or on the weekends, so maybe since boardzy sits in front of a window, it was a much bigger deal for him relative to his surroundings - BT, I am sure it is just a preference. I have been using OLED for so long now, I cant go back to staying on an IPS monitor long term lol
for sure, it boils down to your use case.. and yeah your room lighting condition as well didnt thought of that
Oled is better I’m waiting for Asus 4k 240 dual 480 hz 1080p
damn i’m early
awe yeah aha appreciate you!
Asus makes the best gaming monitors..!!!!
Reason Asus doesn't include ELMB Sync is simple, Nvidia hardware Gsync module. No Nvidia hardware Gsync module supports ELMB sync or ELMB, Only ULMB and ONLY when nvidia says it's ok. Notice Asus is releasing a new 300 hz QHD IPS monitor that DOES have ELMB Sync because it's Gsync compatible/freesync. No nvidia Gsync module = more features, nvidia does this to produce a consistent experience across it's lineup of certified hardware Gsync module displays.
Booom ULMB2 is here because of the Gsync module.
@Phil agreed Sadly, it currently doesn't work with any refresh lower than 360 hz and it doesn't work with gsync so you'll get vsync lag unless you have a system with enough chops to do double the native refresh (720 fps) in order for the strobe to look good
@@eddi3x3 It works at 120hz and 240hz as well. Also you don't need double the framerate. You just need to be able keep above whatever you're using ULMB at (120hz, 240hz or 360hz).
The screen tearing is unfortunate but at such a high framerate it's not that bad.
@@Phil_529 I'll need to wait for review cause mark from blur buster claims it only works at 360 hz because it does ksf phosphor with red strobe according to discorz (blur buster user) and strobing at lower refreshes would show the ksf red phosphor
How is this compared to Dell alienware aw2723df?
Watch this video for my thoughts on that monitor plus two others: ruclips.net/video/ZqwmNB8JnP0/видео.html
@@TooMuchTech that is asus 240hz monitor I have heard this is even faster so can you tell is there any major difference while playing competitive games? How is this compared to alienware aw2723df
idk why I’d buy this over my OLED, 340hz is basically imperceptible and I’m not a professional gamer
Oled is better true black ..360 is hard to reach in 1440p …Asus now 520 hz make no sense..Oled 1440p 240 is perfect
No 4k, 100% DCI-P3/Adobe RGB is a no for me e.e
Zowie XL2566k
We’ll see when I get my hands on one… but it’s not IPS and it’s not neeaarrrlyyy as versatile
For CSGO, which is better???
BenQ Zowie XL2566K,
🔥🔥🔥
This is insane. You can buy a vastly superior OLED for less than this screwjob. $1500 for a 27" IPS is practically criminal.
I mean I did say it should be less money so I would agree, full price for this one isn’t exactly the best deal 🫡
PG279QM is 240HZ, this says 360
I was up way too late last night haha, thank you
@@TooMuchTech its ok, we still love you.
Ips beats oled?
Old people with 13900k and 4090 and of course oled monitor: no bud
OOS everrywhere for more than a month.
better than benq mobiuz ex270qm?
I think it is more of a side grade, not necessarily an upgrade. They trade blows for clarity, Asus wins in color, BenQ wins in motion clarity because it has BFI and better HDR Support
But the Blacks are too washed out bro :/
I skipped 3 minutes and 53 seconds to get to what I want.
Do what you gotta do, timestamps for a reason
@@TooMuchTech There was no time stamp for the UFO test, I mainly come to your channel for the UFO test - Your Channel is a great resource for what store employee won't tell me and it is very useful for my own personal research hench why I have my 240 hz Zowie right now...from your channel after doing extensive research.
@@primordialious6945 Yeah I didnt put one there because I had a lot of explaination for it, so decided to group it with the other panel research findings as well. And nice! How do you like it so far? I am assuming the EX270QM?
@@TooMuchTech BenQ ZOWIE XL2546K
How much?? Nah its gonna be the Cooler Master GP27q or Gigabyte M27q X
Aren’t those only 165hz? That’s not even close lol
Nope not going to even watch the video this monitor is trash with way to much blur nope nope only facts I’m a subscriber but no way is this thumbnail true!!!
Lol that’s why there’s a question mark🤣 if you commented after you watched, you would probably see that we have a similar opinion
Now supports ULMB2 which gives it an effective refresh rate of 1440hz. Crazy.
oled = little to no ghosting
Correct my friend
@@TooMuchTechkeep up the good work :)
Thank you!
OLED is objectively better than any LCD in every single scientific metric with the one exception of 100% white screen brightness.
TO suggest otherwise is being completely ignorant of technology.
And we haven't even gotten to things like perfect black uniformity and much much faster G2G response
OLED will beat any LCD for motion clarity by a mile anyday.
But due to nature of OLED screens even lower brightness appear much brighter and clearer especially as 10% windows and even 50% of the screen can get impressively bright especially new ones coming with heat sinks and 3 year warranty against burn in like MSI brands...
Pg27qm? Or pg27aqn😂
PG27 NINE QM!
@@jwonyoutube nah, the PG279QM is 240HZ
I now understand, I put the wrong monitor in the title at first haha
Wait for the AQN to go on sale. But since I have both ATM, the older version is not bad at all, try and get a good deal on one used!
@@TooMuchTech They meant the video title has PG279QM, but the video is QN
Oled wins
It does indeed
Gorilla player
Beats what ? 😂😂
Lol it’s a great thumbnail isn’t it
But seriously, people on twitter think this is *actually* better than OLED… crazy right
@@TooMuchTech The whole point of having OLED is that gray to gray transition time is super low, like 0.2ms. IPS monitors are fast but 4ms tops. OLED have no ghosting or smearing at all ! While all IPS monitors (no matter if they are even 480Hz) have it. So just high refresh rate doesnt make good monitor - you can have 144hz monitor look better IRL than 360hz monitor..
Oh I know, I really hope you didn’t miss the part of the video where I talked about the LG monitor that I also purchased 🤣
The thumbnail is for the views, the video is for the actual important purchase decision information
hdmi 2.0 👎👎