Can you add a GPS locator to the Luba lawnmower and wire it into the battery full-time looks like there’s plenty of room I’ll be anxiously awaiting to see your video. This is something that absolutely everybody who owns a Luba would like to know and be able to do.
Yes absolutely possible to do. But be carefull not to let the tracker drain the battery too low or it will trip the BMS in the battery pack. I havn't tripped a luba battery yet, but many battery packs will not automatically reset when you put them back on charge.
Hard to see from the video but are the blade motors brushless? Did you get any more info on the battery, it's hard to judge the height of the pack but was curious to know if they used prismatic or cylindrical cells.
Would you mind commenting on the likelihood of.... 1. Swapping out the antenna in the back for a better/stronger one (could see drilling a hole and mounting a stick style antenna up) to possibly improve positioning? 2. Any chance of swapping out that 10ah battery for a better/larger one that is more compact?
I think changing the antenna may make a small difference and raising it wouldprobably make a reasonble differce to some yards, but would make it impractical to mow around low hanging trees and bushes. For the battery I suspect you could absolutely do that, there may be some minor incompatibility issues with the minimum and maximum charge voltages from the firware, but it would likey work ok.
Thanks for the video. I thought the machine felt substantial compared to the competition so it is nice to see inside. Only down side for me seems to be battery replacement in the future - having to take the whole thing apart to undertake this service, rather than having a simple battery slot. I've very pleased with my machine
Agreed, that is the first question I have. Is the battery easily replaceable, or if it has any manufacturers I formation on it. If my L2 5000H lasts long enough to deplete the battery life, I fully intend to replace it.
Awesome video! Great to finally clear this open question in regards to the SIM card slot. Is the USB port powered? Could it be used to attach/power up a camera or some other USB device?
Do you know if the tilt sensor in front is the one that prevents the luba from doing too steep an incline? I'm thinking about disabling that switch, but before tearing the luba apart was wondering if you've any insights.
0:38 i think 'part' makes more sense than 'piece of kit'. i think piece of kit would make more sense if you were doing the assembly of these and all the parts came as one kit.
I have been thinking of adding a small LTE router inside there, which will supply Luba with it's own local WIFI. For that a +5V power must be available. Can you tell, if there is a place where +5V can be take easily?
Sorry I havnt look to see if there is a 5V rail or pins to take this from. But you could use a dashcam hard wiring kit and connect it straight to the battery. Just be very aware that if you run the battery voltage too low its BMS will trip and could be dificult to get it to charge again without jump starting it with another battery. www.amazon.com.au/Range-Tour-Hardwire-12V-24V-adapters/dp/B09CMJVQMT?th=1
This is asked by many people around the world. Im not sure if anyone has managed to jail break a lube yet, but im sure it is coming. Not my area of expertise so I couldnt tell you what chip is used or what type of code is used to program them.
The front bumper is hollow on both ends. Have seen owners gluing apple trackers inside the bumper. Easy to remove and take a part. A you tube is out there.
its not to hard. just dont take out the screws closet to the cutting motors like I have seen in other videos. These screws hold the cutting motors and assembly together.
If you purchased this from us, please contact us so we can fix this for you. If not you will have to go back to where you purchased it from. It does sound like the antenna cable is not plugged in properly or has a faulty antenna or PCB.
The disk shaped antenna will be for receiving GPS from the satellites. There is a separate Short Range Device (SRD) receive antenna for transmissions from the RTK and another for WiFi/Bluetooth. There is a picture showing these antennas as part of the FCC report which is on line. The same picture shows the SRD and Bluetooth/WiFi modules. From the picture the SRD module sports a Semtech LLCC68 LoRa chip + 32MHz crystal which is capable of receiving (and transmitting) in the range 150 - 960MHz. On the Luba it will be receiving only and presumably the same chip on the RTK transmitting only. It will be using one of the Industrial Scientific Medical (ISM) bands of freqs in this range reserved for such devices, also appropriate to the regulatory authority for the region. The reason I researched this is I need to elevate the RTK link antenna without elevating the whole RTK above a parapet. The link antenna has an SMA connector so I should be able to fit the RTK below the parapet so it isn't visible but has an unobscured view of the satellites and then I can extend the link antenna by a coax above the parapet. For positioning purposes I'm pretty sure it is the RTK GPS antenna that is important, whereas the link antenna could be anywhere, as long as the coax isn't too long and losses not too great.
I’ve had errors coming up regarding the motor hub , now my Luba won’t move , positioning and connection is all fine . Is this something that can be fixed ?
If the motor is not jammed by some foreign object and has a high current or rpm error then it will probably need a new motor or motor driver board. Check to see if it spins freely when it is turned off. This will rule out if there is something just jammed in the motor that could be found and removed.
MAMMOTION: Aber VORSICHT, wenn ihr den Support braucht. Wenn du kein Tester bist, bekommst du nicht einmal eine Antwort, wenn du etwas wissen willst, was nicht in der Beschreibung steht. In meinem Fall wollte ich nur wissen, ob, wenn ein Haus mitten im Garten steht, die Verbindung zum LUBA auch auf allen Seiten des Hauses gewährleistet ist. Außer die erste Antwort mit lapidaren Hinweis auf das Handbuch, keine Reaktion. But BE CAUTIOUS if you need support. If you're not a tester, you won't even receive a response when you want to know something that isn't in the description. In my case, I just wanted to know if, when a house is situated in the middle of the garden, the connection to LUBA is ensured on all sides of the house. Except for the initial response with a curt reference to the manual, there was no reaction.
Thanks for commenting. You are very correct about support from Mammotion. We provide indpendant support to all our own customers. This is something I comment on alot in my videos. Buy from a local dealer so you get the support you need. I will be taking a detailed video in the comming week explaining more about RTK positioning. IM not sure what your quesiton really is, but if you are talking about the signal from the RTK antenna to the LUBA then the signal will pass through most object in its way and you should get very good coverage on all sides of your house.
Only software limitations. Some 5000s have the full rubber wheels but these are mostly phased out now. The 3000 has a limitation to reduce the max mowing speed and reduces the max areas from 10 down to 6. Thats it every thing else is the same.
yes absolutely. We install airtgs inside the robot for our customers all the time. We dont recomend using the battery of robot mowers to power trackers, so as long as you have a tracker with separate power supply it will work well. Using the robot battery usually leads to the robot battery tripping its BMS and sometimes not able to recharge.
Hi. I have a Robolihno 500E, which at start up stops and the message "Area Mowing" appears on the screen. And it stays like that without doing any work. Can you tell me what it could be?
yes this is true. The robot is pretty heavy and if dropped it will very likley break the axle. We have repaired a few broken axles now but not many. Later models and the Luba 2 havea slightly stronger design, but it not that much stronger.
is there a reset button inside? I have a update failure at 69% at my new Yuka, now nothing works anymore, hes dead, stuck in the update.. dont want to send it in :D
Sorry there is no reset button inside. If your Yuka has failed its update and you are now unable to connect to the robot via BT or WiFi then all you can do is cycle the power to see if you can get the connection back. If you get the connection back then you should be able to restart the update process and hopefully it update ok.
@@robotlawnmowersaustralia7913 mammotion seid, there could be a bug that bricks the updateprocess. They don't know yet, but we testet everything possible and nothing works. I will get a new one
From a function standpoint, the mower is impressive. But from an engineering standpoint, it is not serviceable. The physical design makes it pretty much unserviceable by the owner, from disassembly, to the availability of parts. For a review of the substandard design, see the following review: ruclips.net/video/lo2P6R3-Ipk/видео.html
I dont think it looks good. Looks like an home made toy (RC car). Owners will need to do a lot of repairs in the future when all those weakly supported and soldered wires shakes loose. It is a lawnmover for 3K$ and should be a professional build!
My front axle broke with it just being set down. My wife must have put it down on an angle. So I have to disagree with you in how strong it is. Also, the customer service is horrible. I'm 2 weeks with no response. I do not recommend dealing with this company. Invest in a Yarbo
Sorry to hear your experience. Unfortunately when purchasing these product through Amazon or directly from the manufacturer, support is often not very good. As a local dealer we only sell products that we can carry spare parts and support our customers. We service our customers very well and alway have parts and advice for them.
Should include a disclaimer: "Warning: This video has been identified to potentially trigger seizures for people with photosensitive epilepsy. Viewer discretion is advised" 😲
Well done! This leads me to wonder if it would be possible to more the disc GNSS antenna or perhaps wire a different antenna to mount on top of the Luba body to improve signal reception. Any thoughts? See @cuthwulf for a similar question.
FYI the video is flickering because your electrical system is 50 Hz and your camera is set to compensate for 60 Hz (North America).
yeah this is hard to watch
i know guys. sorry about that.
Can you add a GPS locator to the Luba lawnmower and wire it into the battery full-time looks like there’s plenty of room I’ll be anxiously awaiting to see your video. This is something that absolutely everybody who owns a Luba would like to know and be able to do.
Yes absolutely possible to do. But be carefull not to let the tracker drain the battery too low or it will trip the BMS in the battery pack. I havn't tripped a luba battery yet, but many battery packs will not automatically reset when you put them back on charge.
@@robotlawnmowersaustralia7913 have you an idea on what rpm the brushles motors are spinning in normal mowing?
Hard to see from the video but are the blade motors brushless? Did you get any more info on the battery, it's hard to judge the height of the pack but was curious to know if they used prismatic or cylindrical cells.
Yes all motors are brushless. I havnt opened the battery pack yet, but im sure they will be standard 18650 cells.
Would you mind commenting on the likelihood of....
1. Swapping out the antenna in the back for a better/stronger one (could see drilling a hole and mounting a stick style antenna up) to possibly improve positioning?
2. Any chance of swapping out that 10ah battery for a better/larger one that is more compact?
I think changing the antenna may make a small difference and raising it wouldprobably make a reasonble differce to some yards, but would make it impractical to mow around low hanging trees and bushes.
For the battery I suspect you could absolutely do that, there may be some minor incompatibility issues with the minimum and maximum charge voltages from the firware, but it would likey work ok.
Thanks for the video. I thought the machine felt substantial compared to the competition so it is nice to see inside. Only down side for me seems to be battery replacement in the future - having to take the whole thing apart to undertake this service, rather than having a simple battery slot. I've very pleased with my machine
Thanks for watching!
Agreed, that is the first question I have. Is the battery easily replaceable, or if it has any manufacturers I formation on it. If my L2 5000H lasts long enough to deplete the battery life, I fully intend to replace it.
Nice video, thanks for making it. I'm using this to take apart the Luba2 and replace the battery :)
Thanks, but try using this video. robotlawnmowers.com.au/luba-1-replace-battery/
Awesome video!
Great to finally clear this open question in regards to the SIM card slot.
Is the USB port powered? Could it be used to attach/power up a camera or some other USB device?
the USB does not give power, some other youtuber test it.
no I dont beleive it is powered. It is only used for diagnostics.
Cool video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Do you know if the tilt sensor in front is the one that prevents the luba from doing too steep an incline? I'm thinking about disabling that switch, but before tearing the luba apart was wondering if you've any insights.
No the sensor in the front is only a lift sensor. The tilt sensor will be integral to the main board as some kind of electronic gyro.
Thanks for your kind reply. I wonder what sensor is actually triggering the stop...@@robotlawnmowersaustralia7913
Can a broken rear axle be repaired?
Great action 👍🏼, are the motors for the cutting unit brushless?
Yes they are
Is adding LIDAR to the original Luba, something that might be possible?
No i would think it was possible. Maybe Luba 3
0:38 i think 'part' makes more sense than 'piece of kit'. i think piece of kit would make more sense if you were doing the assembly of these and all the parts came as one kit.
Sorry, Aussie slang.
@@robotlawnmowersaustralia7913 i figured, the brits do it too. at least with you guys everything isn't brilliant :D
Thanks, good video.
Glad you liked it!
I have been thinking of adding a small LTE router inside there, which will supply Luba with it's own local WIFI. For that a +5V power must be available. Can you tell, if there is a place where +5V can be take easily?
Sorry I havnt look to see if there is a 5V rail or pins to take this from. But you could use a dashcam hard wiring kit and connect it straight to the battery. Just be very aware that if you run the battery voltage too low its BMS will trip and could be dificult to get it to charge again without jump starting it with another battery.
www.amazon.com.au/Range-Tour-Hardwire-12V-24V-adapters/dp/B09CMJVQMT?th=1
How many screws do you have to remove to remove the cover?
lots, about 20 i think.
What bios / firmware chip is in there? So we can get the software out with a spi programmer, and make a "luba2 10000" from a "luba2 3000"
This is asked by many people around the world. Im not sure if anyone has managed to jail break a lube yet, but im sure it is coming. Not my area of expertise so I couldnt tell you what chip is used or what type of code is used to program them.
How much of a challenge is it to remove the top cover? I'm curious about hiding a GPS tracker within if there is enough space.
I heard some people have put a GPS tracker in the wheel... the hub is removable.
The front bumper is hollow on both ends. Have seen owners gluing apple trackers inside the bumper. Easy to remove and take a part. A you tube is out there.
its not to hard. just dont take out the screws closet to the cutting motors like I have seen in other videos. These screws hold the cutting motors and assembly together.
My brand new luba 1000 is seeing zero satellites, suspecting disconnected cable inside .. how easy was it to disconnect the satellite antenna
If you purchased this from us, please contact us so we can fix this for you. If not you will have to go back to where you purchased it from. It does sound like the antenna cable is not plugged in properly or has a faulty antenna or PCB.
Was from another shop. Ended up being returned to the shop and replaced with another new
The disk shaped antenna will be for receiving GPS from the satellites. There is a separate Short Range Device (SRD) receive antenna for transmissions from the RTK and another for WiFi/Bluetooth. There is a picture showing these antennas as part of the FCC report which is on line. The same picture shows the SRD and Bluetooth/WiFi modules. From the picture the SRD module sports a Semtech LLCC68 LoRa chip + 32MHz crystal which is capable of receiving (and transmitting) in the range 150 - 960MHz. On the Luba it will be receiving only and presumably the same chip on the RTK transmitting only. It will be using one of the Industrial Scientific Medical (ISM) bands of freqs in this range reserved for such devices, also appropriate to the regulatory authority for the region.
The reason I researched this is I need to elevate the RTK link antenna without elevating the whole RTK above a parapet. The link antenna has an SMA connector so I should be able to fit the RTK below the parapet so it isn't visible but has an unobscured view of the satellites and then I can extend the link antenna by a coax above the parapet. For positioning purposes I'm pretty sure it is the RTK GPS antenna that is important, whereas the link antenna could be anywhere, as long as the coax isn't too long and losses not too great.
thanks for the added insight.
I am looking to create a portable rover that will communicate with RTK via SRD...
Is the USB port connected? Any possibility of flashing custom firmware through it?
USB port is to connect the mammotion software to them, so simple answer is yes, but beyond my expertise to modify firmware.
I’ve had errors coming up regarding the motor hub , now my Luba won’t move , positioning and connection is all fine . Is this something that can be fixed ?
If the motor is not jammed by some foreign object and has a high current or rpm error then it will probably need a new motor or motor driver board. Check to see if it spins freely when it is turned off. This will rule out if there is something just jammed in the motor that could be found and removed.
MAMMOTION: Aber VORSICHT, wenn ihr den Support braucht. Wenn du kein Tester bist, bekommst du nicht einmal eine Antwort, wenn du etwas wissen willst, was nicht in der Beschreibung steht. In meinem Fall wollte ich nur wissen, ob, wenn ein Haus mitten im Garten steht, die Verbindung zum LUBA auch auf allen Seiten des Hauses gewährleistet ist. Außer die erste Antwort mit lapidaren Hinweis auf das Handbuch, keine Reaktion.
But BE CAUTIOUS if you need support. If you're not a tester, you won't even receive a response when you want to know something that isn't in the description. In my case, I just wanted to know if, when a house is situated in the middle of the garden, the connection to LUBA is ensured on all sides of the house. Except for the initial response with a curt reference to the manual, there was no reaction.
Thanks for commenting. You are very correct about support from Mammotion. We provide indpendant support to all our own customers. This is something I comment on alot in my videos. Buy from a local dealer so you get the support you need. I will be taking a detailed video in the comming week explaining more about RTK positioning. IM not sure what your quesiton really is, but if you are talking about the signal from the RTK antenna to the LUBA then the signal will pass through most object in its way and you should get very good coverage on all sides of your house.
Hi, do you happen to know the difference between 3000 and 5000? On paper sounds like the same unit different software.
Only software limitations. Some 5000s have the full rubber wheels but these are mostly phased out now. The 3000 has a limitation to reduce the max mowing speed and reduces the max areas from 10 down to 6. Thats it every thing else is the same.
Are the Luba wheel motors brushless motors?
yes they are all brushless.
Where is and what kind of GPS antenna/receiver does this have? Thanks!
The GPS antenna is under the top cover at the back. it is the large round flat black disc. Im not sure what make and model it is.
Is there any room to put gps tracker inside?
yes absolutely. We install airtgs inside the robot for our customers all the time. We dont recomend using the battery of robot mowers to power trackers, so as long as you have a tracker with separate power supply it will work well. Using the robot battery usually leads to the robot battery tripping its BMS and sometimes not able to recharge.
Hi. I have a Robolihno 500E, which at start up stops and the message "Area Mowing" appears on the screen. And it stays like that without doing any work. Can you tell me what it could be?
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If you accidentally drop your Luba you could easily crack the front axle in two beyond the rubber boot.
yes this is true. The robot is pretty heavy and if dropped it will very likley break the axle. We have repaired a few broken axles now but not many. Later models and the Luba 2 havea slightly stronger design, but it not that much stronger.
is there a reset button inside? I have a update failure at 69% at my new Yuka, now nothing works anymore, hes dead, stuck in the update.. dont want to send it in :D
Sorry there is no reset button inside. If your Yuka has failed its update and you are now unable to connect to the robot via BT or WiFi then all you can do is cycle the power to see if you can get the connection back. If you get the connection back then you should be able to restart the update process and hopefully it update ok.
@@robotlawnmowersaustralia7913 mammotion seid, there could be a bug that bricks the updateprocess. They don't know yet, but we testet everything possible and nothing works. I will get a new one
Thanks
no worries
From a function standpoint, the mower is impressive. But from an engineering standpoint, it is not serviceable. The physical design makes it pretty much unserviceable by the owner, from disassembly, to the availability of parts. For a review of the substandard design, see the following review: ruclips.net/video/lo2P6R3-Ipk/видео.html
I did see your video. I agree the axles should be stronger.
I dont think it looks good.
Looks like an home made toy (RC car).
Owners will need to do a lot of repairs in the future when all those weakly supported and soldered wires shakes loose.
It is a lawnmover for 3K$ and should be a professional build!
time will tell, but currently hardware failures are few and far between
My front axle broke with it just being set down. My wife must have put it down on an angle.
So I have to disagree with you in how strong it is.
Also, the customer service is horrible. I'm 2 weeks with no response.
I do not recommend dealing with this company. Invest in a Yarbo
Sorry to hear your experience. Unfortunately when purchasing these product through Amazon or directly from the manufacturer, support is often not very good.
As a local dealer we only sell products that we can carry spare parts and support our customers.
We service our customers very well and alway have parts and advice for them.
Should include a disclaimer: "Warning: This video has been identified to potentially trigger seizures for people with photosensitive epilepsy. Viewer discretion is advised" 😲
:( sorry
Flashing makes this otherwise interesting video unwatchable…
yep sorry :(
Well done! This leads me to wonder if it would be possible to more the disc GNSS antenna or perhaps wire a different antenna to mount on top of the Luba body to improve signal reception. Any thoughts? See @cuthwulf for a similar question.
certainly possible. Improvement would really depend on your yard and signal obstructions.