I met him at comic con during his first year as punisher, NOBODY was in his line, so I took a photo and spent 5 minutes talking with him. Such a real dude.
@@Doorito_ i have a story to tell i had many mentors all of them wise
i too was once young and foolish like you
i had many mentors all of them were wise . what do you mean. what would make you think that there is something wrong with what i said did you see kit fisto spelling off a mentor who was like a brother to me once told me “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat later” “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat and a danger to our later generation our loved ones.” -teleportdinero i’m not saying that i agree with you but then again I’m not always correct either I remember a time back in the 80s when I was growing up things were different back then these youngsters today what makes you think that? It’s all right to disagree with people I remember when I was a young man growing up in the 80s in America it was a different time then back then we used to call each other this is the best I’ve seen from you guys in a while
was about to say the same exact thing m “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat and a danger to our later generation our loved ones.” m m hi hi m -teleportdinero m m
Really? He pretty much plays the same guy in every movie. I will say he's good at making you dislike him, but I'm not sure if he has to work too hard at that.
As a Russian born shortly before the USSR collapsed and the notorious 90s started, I’d like to comment that the timespan he is talking about is considered ROUGH even by the Russians themselves. Luckily, I haven’t faced anything similar when I lived in Russia, but I’m from Siberia, not Moscow
Funny thing is that there are similar rough times in NYC. I was in Russia and people from the university were extremely nice. People in Moscow reminded me of Paris, pissed off you are their client XD. Very high level in science and academia.
I was a pool bartender at chateau Marmont for a few years. He would bring his kids down, have dinner and let them play in the pool. His kids are wild, very well behaved and respectful, but acted like kids should act at a pool. Not the norm at chateau. All us bartenders loved it..little pressure release from the stuffy atmosphere. Every single time he came, when they were leaving. Would come up to all the bar tenders. Tip us handsomely. But more importantly, shake our hands firmly, look us in the eye, and give us genuine thank you for letting his kids have a good time. He’s a great guy
That what it’s about … yeah show your success and appreciation with a nice tip … but show your respect man to man with and honest handshake and gesture. Real dude .
All of the 90s Russian gangsters all ended up dead pretty much. Very few made it out. Eventually the government got fed up and cleaned it up very strictly. Putin was credited with cleaning out all the gangsters
@@v2plus4 you mean he got rid of his competition and made it look like he was doing the people a favor loll a lot of those former KGB agents (like Putin) made money from the fall of the USSR.
When I was in Moscow 5 years ago I noticed too how people in the subway read a lot of literature. All the people I met were all really nice and polite and although not many spoke english they tried their best to be helpful and the city overall seemed pretty safe to me. I travelled in several places in my life but Moscow has some really unique vibes.
By that time western influence was kicked out of Russia. No more western run government, cops or gangs. Still some leftover damage to the overall culture obviously but without direct western control things got better practically overnight.
What are you talking about? Moscow is one of the safest cities in the world right now and probably the cleanest. His story is from 90-s. Thats like telling the story from Detroit right now. 5 years ago? Lol whats changed 5 years ago?
@@JohnSmith-pj1xx I agree, I'm from Moscow and I think it's really safe and convenient city to live in, I wish all Russian cities were like this... But also I still don't like this city. I mean Moscow is comfortable and safe but it's ugly af. In center of the city it's decent with a lot of popular places but when you're walking away it's getting worse and worse. For me it's like depression city, it's so gray that you'll get depression while living here
I'm a immigrant who now holds citizenship, Jon hit the nail on the head when he said that people in the US do not appreciate what they have. It is because they have never experienced life outside of the US. There are a lot of things that could use improvement here, but people here need to realize how good it is/can be here. There is a lot of opportunity here and we are relatively safe from a lot that people in other countries are not.
It's not our problem what's going on in other countries ..5hese people that come here from there need to stop moaning about how good it is in america and just appreciate it
I couldn't agree more. The americans that hate america are usually the ones that were born here and benefited from growing up here, the Americans that immigrated here tend to really appreciate america and fulfill the american dream in my opinion.
I met Jon a few years ago in Upstate NY, I was 17 at the time. He was with his daughter walking around town at night *probably not wanting to be disturbed, but he was nice enough to talk to me and my buddy. Truly good guy, I'll never forget that moment.
@Sovereign Soul When I was not wanting to be disturbed I just mean he was out walking at night, not in broad day. We just walked up to him and asked if he was Jon Bernthal
Having spent a lot of time in the former USSR during the past 25 years, and as a Russian speaking American, I say he's spot on regarding the honesty of Russian people. Note the thug didn't kill him, saw he was a foreigner and let him go. Totally believable there. A good yarn.
@Alexander Treue Yeah, lot of exaggeration. Typical western account of an Russian experience or another slavic slavic nation for that matter, except he didn't mention the "unbelievable amount" of alcohol we all drink, all day, all night, non-stop. (say hello to Bert K.)
In my Russian studies I learned that Russian people are welcoming but its cold to outsiders. My Russian teacher told me someone once greeted her to their house saying “oh my goodness youre fat! Let me fill your belly.” To her it was a warm, kind thing to say. But i think it illustrates the honesty
I live in one of the former USSR satellite countries, the story with the thug is so real. Lot of these guys had secret police or KGB experience, so they were not your average street thugs. When mafia started carving up territories in early 90s you had car bombs, machine gun fire, I saw a cut off head in front of a club in a flower pot. Once they put a huge bomb under sidewalk to get a boss that was well protected, blew up half the street. Later they figured out violence is not good for business and its better if people just disappear.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz This was in Budapest, assassination of mob boss Tamas Boros, 3 innocent bystanders were killed and more than 20 (I think) injured.
It is ironic how this very clip started with him spewing BS though. Gorky Park is far, far from being a "rough" part of Moscow, it never has been. Not so sure if the guy is legit.
After watching it on Spotify. Wow, he was in class of Oleg Tabakov. Unbelievable. Folks, just remember that you have to go to college and graduate with degree in order to become an actor in Russia or USSR. Much respect to John.
That’s not true. There’re actors with no formal education here in Russia. It’s harder to get the roles without a degree but some still make it regardless.
USSR? Nigga it ceased to exist 30 years ago, stop referring to the countries of former USSR as USSR. Are you writing from a British colony? Which one of the 13?
@@alexmonza2823 he was speaking about how things used to work in the USSR when the USSR still existed. Also I'm pretty sure it's inappropriate to refer to him in the way you did, as Tsoi is a Korean surname.
BTW for anyone who doesn't know who Oleg Tabakov was - he was a legendary Soviet/Russian actor. In my mind he's the voice of kot Matroskin in one well-known Soviet cartoon.
I worked in Russia for 9 years, and lived in Moscow from 1996-1999. I saw a lot of things similar to what Jon described, and agree with him that the arts there are amazing.
@@mfnzer I went back a few years ago for a visit and it was amazing. All the advertising billboards were removed, the city was very clean, it felt like a modern European city to me.
@Corbrwl I have just left 15 days ago. I would of loved to have seen the contrast. I have done a bit of traveling and only Tokyo can compete with how clean and organized the city is. I meet stunning highly educated worldy people. I would walk around at ridiculous hrs all around the city and I have never felt so safe and I am from New Zealand. I could not speak more highly of the people the women and the culture. I want to head back there for the lifestyle. Cheers for the msg! You must of been there at a intriguing time.
Lie. He wasnt in Russia." One fact" about road police with ak 47 is so laughable so you understand hes a complete fraud. That story about a woman is fake too lol. Yesh i know it since i living in russia from 1982 lol
Everyone knows him from punisher and walking dead but I feel like his role in fury was the best. Along with the whole crew of that tank. The way they all were so different role wise and played off each other was so deep and real.
@@deebo5474 yeah Croatia and Slovenia are more Roman Catholic whole Serbia and Montenegro are more Greek Orthodox. Didn't visit the other Balkans but I assume they're all mixes of whatever is between.
@@deebo5474 Okay what a non educated thing to say. I am Croatian and I have been to Turkey.... The difference between people in my country and there is staggering. I have been only to like 10 countries but Turkish people are the most rude and arrogant people I ever met. I can see how they were invaders and had an empire. Turkey invaded Bosnia and that's why there are Muslims there still today. Croatia, the coast lines are more like Italians and continentals are like Hungarian and Austrian people because thats what the influence was over history.
@@deebo5474 Not a huge deal but Balkans are ex-Communist not ex-Soviet. And Yugoslavia was barely even ex-Warsaw Pact, they were in it very briefly and then left almost immediately to be neutral between west and east.
He needs to stick to talking acting etc though. His supporting BLM really turned me off him bad. Anyone with a brain, an internet connection.... knows it's run by 3 big fat pig black women who buy mansions with the donations. BLM has nothing to do with awareness of and/or stopping police brutality or George Floyds death. It's all an anti white male money grab. In fact they donate more to trans activism than to any groups trying to stop police brutality. Because one of the founders is dating some trans person. Wake up people. These groups and movements are started by greedy mongers who use division to get rich.
Dang Jon is one of my favorite actors, and learning he lived in Russia for a while is crazy. I’ve been trying to learn the language for 4 years and I can’t imagine what it would be like to live there. He seems like a great guy
I went there for a few weeks in 2003. It was fascinating but you also feel vulnerable. You can see the beauty in people but you can also see the brutality in life there. From just walking down the street you get a sense of the deep history of the place but also that blood was spilt here. I mentioned this to my tour guide and she just said ‘yes’.
@@LCOF 2003 was still dangerous transitional time, though safer than the 90s. I went again in 2008 and it was pretty safe everywhere I've been (spent time in 10 cities and lived in 3)
Born and raised in Iran. Then lived all over Europe, moved to US in 1994, visited Russia 4 times in the last year and I have never seen a beautiful country, culture and churches as I did in Russia.. Moscow a city of over 15 million people, and I felt safe, same thing with Saint Petersburg.
Why are people saying that woman beater was "nice" or "good" for letting him go? It's obviously more convenient not kill someone, especially a foreigner.
I don't think you listened to what Jon said, because even Jon admitted that he could tell this guy was doing him a favor not killing him. He basically said, the guy saw him as a bug. Who cares about killing a bug?
People on that level don't care what's convenient. They obviously have the connections and money to get out of almost anything. He just recognized that he was a foreigner and had no idea what he was getting himself into. So he spared him. Russian people of that caliber will absolutely delete you. However unlike many other countries, they have the ability to recognize right from wrong and there is common law between people like that, IF you know what you're getting yourself into, you face full consequences. IF you didn't know, you are in the right, you're given a warning and you go without consequence. They follow that law to the dot and your own people will delete you if you break it.
I'll tell you, as a person born in Eastern Europe, the first option will still be true here. Life in the post-Soviet space is an emotional meat grinder.
to be honest he was probably better off not knowing it and being a foreigner shouting “whatre you doing” instead of the russian translation thereof, then they probably wouldve beat him up or worse
@@omarsaletovicprins9632 yeah they probably forgave him because they knew he was a foreigner who didn't know how things worked, if he had spoken Russian they would assume he's been living there his whole life and already knew the rules so yeah he would have died
@@tinkywinky4449 well firstly, maybe they would forgive someone who doesnt know the rules and send him off with a stiff warning, secondly, its usually pretty frowned upon to kill a foreigner/turist. not really something you can sweep under the rug.
He's the perfect casting for the next Wolverine. Thomas Jane is too emo for punisher, he's too egocentric in his roles, really thinks a lot of himself vs the character.
absolutely. i know people who have died for less over here in that situation in bar fights. UFC fighter Houston Alexander has a story where he did the same thing Jon did here, but he ended up getting shot and almost killed for it. great story but it goes to show you how easy you could lose your life.
Hmm...Kinda weird that the story would end there though. Why wouldn't he be frantically trying to get her help from some kind of authorities if his 'bug' status truly prevented him from helping in the moment. His energy in describing that was as if someone just scared him away from them pissing on a grave site or something. Like he really just walked away from someone potentially being murdered just shrugging his shoulders? wtf I wouldn't be able to live with myself without trying to help her in some way.
Everything is always in a timely manner and look at you now. I'm glad you have brought thier story and yours back to share with the world. It's OK to love and give them hope right ...
@@kongvods6008 I dont think daredevil is completely canon is he? I thought it was a soft reboot with the new show coming out but I might be wrong I haven't kept up with a lot of marvel since the horrific phase 4. Maybe he could be cast as wolverine but I think it would be confusing and he already plays a very good punisher.
Great guest and an interesting conversation. Having listened to their entire podcast and as someone who was born and raised in Russia, but has lived in the US for close to 15 years now, I can definitely say that 90s were a terrible time for the county and probably the worst one to visit. Back then there was a lot of criminal activity everywhere and the country was being divided by the rich oligarchs, a lot of whom have since fled and now pretend to be the “truth tellers”. Back in the 90s it was extremely difficult for a vast majority of regular people to have their ends meet - employees were often receiving goods (electronics, grain, etc.) instead of actual salary, including my parents, so the majority of the population was much more focused with providing for their family and trying to simply survive. Things have changed significantly since then and definitely for the better. Russian cities are no longer as dangerous as they used to be (majority are very safe in comparison with the cities in the US, for example), people in general have more money to spend on not only the most essential needs, and the access to information has greatly improved, even as compared to the 90s. Everyone can easily get access to VPN services, if needed, and there is a lot of various information/opinions available on RUclips, as opposed to the mainstream media. Even my 70+ year old mother accesses RUclips on a daily basis and follows a variety of different channels. So to sum it all up, I’d have to disagree with Jon here in terms of things being currently worse in Russia as they were in the 90s - in fact, it’s quiet the opposite. It would have been good for him to visit modern Russia as opposed to making assumptions based on how everything was back in the 90s. But nevertheless, a very interesting conversation.
Absolutely agree with you! As a Russian myself, I can confirm that EVERY person in Russia would say that 90s were dark, scary times, Time of Troubles. It was the time when many grandmas were selling heroine just to get some money. The young men were raised by criminals in the street, and the most effective criminals took themselves almost all the wealth the country had. It was the time when shooting outside was normal, when salaries were often given IN BOTTLES OF VODKA. Mind-blowing....
As a young man of 24 (in 1994) I travelled to Russia on the trans-siberian express from Beijing to St Petersburg...I had a few days in Moscow and it was a real shock to see how beautiful it was but also how poor. Looking back it was probably one of the most dangerous times to visit and I'd be lying if I didn't say I felt unsafe more than once. I found the Russians I met to be good people but there were alot of desperate people too. The Russian culture / history is incredible and in the West we know very little of it apart from the propaganda we see in films etc. The truth is most Russians are decent people who love their country, are proud of their heritage.
Yeah, people like to say that collapse of the USSR was a good thing but they dont bother to talk how shitty it became inside Russia and all other ex soviet republics in the 90's. It was brutal :(
The road to self awareness is long and fraught with difficulties and disappointments. Reaching the goal requires brutal acceptance of one's flaws and a level of self-honesty that most people seem incapable of, especially in western societies. It can be extremely challenging to recognize unpleasant truths about one's self, while simultaneously, it can be liberating, as Mr. Bernthal shows. Powerful stuff.
The first time I crossed one of those roads it was crazy, 10 lanes. I was dodging cars, I don’t know how I got across alive. I met a local and asked how on earth did he cross. Like Jon said, there are underground arcades everywhere.
Oh maybe during 90s but I was back in 2018 there in Moscow all alone for 12 days and had great time with exactly 0 issues encounter. Not only that I wonder around in all possible museums but I also went to the street markets, monasteries, Gorky Park (when it was falling dark), then in Moscow suburbs also getting lost but locals helped me to navigate and again had no issues, visited bunch of metro stations. All in all safer then in US and comparing to Paris I would say Moscow is twice safer.
@@rogyn8484 Moscow is not Russia. St. Petersburg is not Russia. Most of Russia is terrible. Outhouses are common. Open sewage. Crumbling, depressing old soviet style apartments. Everything looks exactly the same, like they are frozen in ussr era timecapsule, but nothing is cleaned or fixed. Garbage collection is a joke. School facilities are pretty bad, too. They don’t live long, either. It’s brutal. Even ppl w power and money aren’t protected. Putin has been throwing most of ru leadership class out windows and off buildings at record pace. Anyone w talent who cld leave has. And there’s a serious population issue. Ww2 set it off and it keeps getting worse.
@@melm295 I was visiting out of Moscow as well and not everything is as you described, there were some very decent smalller towns in surroundings. Sure there are places totally devastated too but Russia is simply very large, differences between the regions are drastic especially further you go from the main centers. However what you can see in LA and some other cities l never saw anywhere else, even so called "third world countries" do not have drug abuse and street violence like US is having currently. In US you can also find buldings similar to those from communists time in Russia, bunch of "projects" and neighborhoods where you are not safe to go even during the day. US gives to individuals more opportunities to develop but also and much more opportunities to destroy themselves. Like it or not US is far more dangerous then Russia overall, now we can talk about politics but that would be topic for itself.
@@rogyn8484 surrounding areas of Moscow are like Brooklyn or Upstate or Jersey is to nyc. It is not safer. Especially for women as domestic violence is not only legal, but normalized. There's a clip from a Russian tv show where a girl was punched out by her boyfriend. Or it cld have been the host. No one did anything. He beat her bad. If you are gay, you may be kidnapped and tortured by police. It is the most corrupt country, I believe, in the world. If not number 1, then number 2 or 3, ect. You have to pay bribes to get even basic government services.. The Russian mob is an arm of the government, so you have to pay them "taxes" too. Russians don't live very long, either. And like I said, in America, overwhelming majority of the population have plumbing and indoor toilets. You should see how the average Russian lives. Idk what propaganda you are consuming to not be aware of how bad the repression and persecution of any type of freedom there is. Or that selling children for sex by parents is isn't a rarity. Or that police can take you and torture you for using Grindr or saying something that they interpret as not being supportive of Russian war. The local population has been completely defeated by so many centuries of atrocity and genocidal dictators. There is a video of an old woman being picked up and thrown off a bus for saying something bad about the war. If you have hiv in Russia, ur screwed. The hospitals are terrible; something one wld expect in the 3rd world. The infrastructure and airplanes aren't reliable. Very little maintenance is done on anything outside where plutocrats live. So, ur wrong. It doesn't compare in any way to America. Russians were desperate to come here, esp young ones, before. My ex bf was from Moscow; quite a few of his friends were willing to pay to marry me to get green card. They don't do that bc their country is comparable to America. And now, it's even worse. Ppl wouldn't be fleeing by the hundreds of thousands if it was as you claim. Whoever is feeding u the bs has an agenda. The facts are out there. Just use google, ffs..
@@melm295 I was alone, walking in the middle of the night in Moscow and some other places and I had exactly zero issues. Would situation be different if I was at some rural Russian town or I was there in the middle of the winter? Well maybe, but then again all the things you mentioned and even worst you can find in US. People in LA and Chicago blocks walking like zombies on drugs, bunch of addicted maniacs and prostitutes on the streets, homeless people thrown out because they had no money to pay credits or they gambled and lost all, gang violence where you can be killed for nothing or shoot by police if you not put hands up on the very first warning, mass university and school shootings... All of this you have in videos as well if we are using search "google" logic or look at the official international statistics where rape in US is on much higher scale then in Russia. That contrast between luxury and misery in such a close range of only couple of blocks away I never saw anywhere else besides in the large US cities. US have a great business opportunities but as well opportunities to fall to the lowest points that no other countries in Europe are having. People who are running into US from Eastern Europe for a green cards are those who not wish to be cheap labor in their own places, what they not understand is that in US you will be cheap labor as well barely connecting one end to the other. In best case scenarios you will buy something and be on credit for the whole life paying some apartment or renting sending rest of the money back home to family. Do you know how many people from US are moving into Europe by the way? I have friend who moved here and he said that will burn US passport just if he gets any other because he not wish to live in such a brainwashed society. East Europe in general have "lower complex" issue especially young people who think that if their friends took photo in NY posing for the Instagram all their lives are one perfect fairytale. Sad reality can hit them if they arrive and realize that it is far from what they expected. Not sure where you are from but I have Russian friends all around Russia and I have friends all around US as well. Those are two totally different systems and views on life. This saying I am not supporting dictatorships like the one you have in Russia but I am also not supporting corporate liberalism which is based on culture devastation in order to achieve profits. Fact is that almost all Europe countries are safer then US.
I’m a Black who has lived in Russia for over 8 years. I came here as a student and on my first day in the country in Russia I saw a man who was shot daed and lying in his pool of blood. I thought I came to a fucked up place, but I was dead wrong. I have never seen such honest and great people. Thanks to them I speak English better. Yeah, that’s strange, but their language is so rich that you have to always read the meanings of the words you translate. The people’s names are being spoilt by their government, but I can’t deny the fact that I’m blessed to be here. The main problem is the language and not even racism, unlike in the USA.
GREAT OBSERVATION. And it's so true that who we are is reflected in our language, and being exposed long term to another culture is like living a life with a life. I love Russians, too, BTW. Stay safe, friend. 👍❤️😎
Well i can say with 1000% honesty that i have been ajon berenthal fan since watchin the pilot episode 4 the walking dead when it aired & he couldve been the worst actor on earth but he reminded me alot, looks & mannerisms of my cousins boyfriend ben, the only positive, younger, male influence i had growin up he was a perfect role model that was also very cool lol & let me drive his convertible golf gti back in 80's! That i could looked up 2 & as just as my childhood hero did, jon has NEVER once disappointed me. Very talented 👏 👌 👍
I've been around a lot of Russian tourists here in Thailand the last few months. They have a reputation of not being approachable/not easy to talk to but that is just their persona in public. Behind close doors is just like what Bernthal says they are completely honest/without pretension. So rare in this world.
I celebrated my 22nd birthday (1994) in Vladimir Russia while studying abroad as a college student. I just remember how polite and welcoming the people were. I would tell them I was an American from Chicago and the response was “Michael Jordan! Al Capone!”. Sad how our relationship with Russia has soured.
👀It's heartbreaking for Cold War kids who watched the Wall fall... I feel for all Ukraine and Russian citizens/soldiers caught up in yet another M. I. C. project $$$... 😮💨
Not sad at all, it was American influence that created the thugs in the story. The government, cops and cartels were all run from Washington. The leaders all had American flags on their desks. The more the relationship sours between the usa and a nation the less corrupt and violent the place becomes. If things go on like this the Russians will soon sweep the corrupt officials and organised crime out of Russia entirely.
I like this guy, but... I was born in Russia, and raised in Russia and other parts of the USSR. Ak-47s in your face for crossing the Tverskaya sounds like way overkill, even for the 90's. And 20 Rubles were worth like a single dollar in the 90's. The "Militia" would laugh their asses off if you tried to bribe'em with 20 Rub. So at least these parts of the story are a bit contrived.
This must've been a long time ago, because as far as I'm aware (as someone living in Moscow) - Gorky Park is awesome in itself, very well kept, lots of money invested in it. It's literally Moscow's central park. And the surrounding residential districts are very expensive, I'd say some of the better ones in Moscow (this is close to the city center). It kind of bewilders me to hear him say that it's a "rough, shitty" part of Moscow.
Jon is fake. He pretends to be street for clout/followers. The people have totally bought in because he's good as an actor at playing that role. He's really a rich kid disconnected from avg people that's trying really hard to seem cool. On his podcast he brings mostly real people from the street on and so he gets people to buy into this fake persona he's created even more. It's easy to see he's fake when you have experience in what he tries to talk about.
@@Aasinp it definitely sounds like the 90's, Gorky Park was reconstructed at some point in the late 2000's or something, so it wasn't always super nice, but the nearby districts (khamovniki, leninskiy prospekt, mosfilm, universitet) even back then were quite elite.
SwapBlogRU - That too struck me as odd. The whole story was like a perfect scripted woke hollywood victimization of a wamen. Honestly I dont buy it. Especially with everything going on right now
This story really struck home. I had a similar experience in Brazil as he did in Russia. The way he explains about his cockiness and how it got him into trouble could not be more relatable. His story telling skills are in my opinion, very good.
True re: the arts. I went on a first date with a Russian gal in Chicago that grew up in Siberia. I allowed her to pick the venue. She chose a winery, despite not being a drinker. She chose it because a world renowned Cellist was playing. Second date was to a museum.
even after experiencing such a terrible situation like that Jon still makes sure to make it clear he actually appreciates the culture and the people of the country that he was in at the time, you can tell he's really grateful for everything, way different from the majority of tourists/expats that go to other countries and start bitching about the most minor shit just because it's different from their home country, a lot of americans should learn from this guy
Even if he talked bad about the country it would be responsible. If i lived in a place where a women is brutally killed in streets i wouldn't think of it fondly.
@@seal3427 he left the scene without at least trying to call the cops? Ain’t that weird? What year is he describing? It’s not that wild in Moscow nowadays. Still wild, but not as wild as the guy describes. Also there is like 1 homicide per day in New York for example, so big cities probably have a higher rate of murders in general regardless of the country. But still states are much safer probably, wish to visit someday
@@besmart2350 In the 90s the cops in Russia were not exactly in charge, sure they would arrest people but it would be ordinary people, not guys that were connected because they knew if they arrested guy their families would be targeted.
My twin bro (American) and his friends (Russian) got chased by the mob in russia for filming a mobster toss someone in a river and stealing a passport. You see the mobster point directly at the camera and the other monsters start running toward them. Then the camera is bobbing up and down as my brother films while they run for safety. This was back around 1999/2000. I think it was St Petersburg.
@@scottf5791 People are so easily fooled. I don’t know if humans just don’t actually spend enough time with other humans or if their bullish-t gauge is broken but this guy gave SO many tells of his character and humility is definitely not there.
you have a weird definition of humble? False humility is not the same thing. This dude came on this podcast and literally just tells fantastical stories where he is the action hero of them and you call that humble. Hahahaha.
I was to Russia twice. Once 600 miles east of Moscow in a small technical/science based town for 2.5 weeks and on another occassion to Moscow. I found people in the heartland to be friendly and more civilized than my Amerikkkan compatriots. I myself never saw violence or theft but I knew from the locals that it existed. Everyone I met was cordial. I even moved out of my designated range without permission. This is around summer, 2009. I was back in Moscow during the winter in 2010. I had no idea how cold things could get. I'm walking around in a NY Yankees cap and my head felt like it was going to pop off. You know how you get brain freeze from drinking icy beverages? That's what it felt like walking around Moscow at night. You need one of those furry russian trapper hats with the ear flaps: ushankas. I got some tickets to the Bolshoi, but couldn't afford ballet tickets, so I went to a Puccini Opera, La Boheme. The performers were not terrible, but they were all over the hill. The libretto is supposed to be about young lovers, not geriatrics. So I kind of dozed through it. Moscow wasn't as friendly as the small town I'd been in a few months earlier. I didn't really get a chance to hang with anyone. It was more like a rat race: everyone was too busy getting to wherever they were going. I stayed at a timeshare apartment in a good location. The previous occupants were noisy which upset the regular tenants and we were mistaken for them so there was a generous offering of those infamous Russian bi-polar meltdowns. Fortunately, there was no physical violence to complement it. I remember the roads being in reall shitty shape in both towns and there was a noticeable absence of air conditioning in taxis and hotel rooms. I've had better lodging in hostels than Moscow, and the rooms by the airport were expensive. Yeah, the Cyrillic will throw Westerners, but it's not as hard to learn as you might think and you can pick up the basics with a little preparation before your trip. You won't be anywhere near fluent or intermediate, though - Russian grammar is even more complex. But you'll be able to pronounce words and have a rudimentary understanding. I've had more trouble in Costa Rica than I did in Russia. Remember Con-di Rice? She held herself out as a Russia expert. Fact is she didn't know tit from twat about the Russian language. All she knew was how to lie glibly about everything.
Whenever I'm in a situation that I don't like or feel comfortable in,I just forget about everything going on around me & I get some Chinese food or comfort food, I feel like a loser or failure at first but then I realize afterwards I made the right decision after seeing how everything plays out,I think it's trusting your instincts over what everybody else is doing or thinks u should do.
Jon feels like a very down to earth guy, also what a crazy experience. All the eastern Europe sounds like a really interesting place to live because of the culture and history, but a the same time there is this dark side of corruption that seems like runs deep on so many levels
@@charlie1234500 yes there is still a very noticeable difference in how the law is enforced and overal bureacracy levels. Even today when the west is very obviously corrupt.
It seems like its much easier to be genuine when life has real life consequences for not taking life seriously. America on the other hand can afford to be delusional because we have people who are just as delusional, telling us that this is normal. It is only a matter of time before those consequences catch up to us.
I think I know what you're on about..I've always felt that if life is truly difficult and challenging a person doesn't have the time nor inclination to indulge in needless identity politics. Being able to be that self-obsessed and self-important is a result of being too comfortable and having too much privilege. If you're just trying to survive, not step on the toes of anyone potentially dangerous, make sure you are able to eat that week you ain't gonna be naval gazing excessively about how you identify in any regard. Russia especially seems like a no non-sense place with a lot of struggle, so very different from what many experiences in America. Then again, there is so much poverty, homelessness, and people who need help here as well. You'd think trying to help the less fortunate would take higher priority than all the BS that's currently trending but nah that would require real effort and caring about other people. It's easy to come up with made up issues and problems to bitch about on the tiktok. And before anyone comes for me (because this is the internet) yes I do put my action where my words are. I have volunteered with Durham Rescue Mission, Habitat for Humanity and the USO. Whenever I find myself feeling sorry for myself it's a hint to do something for someone else.
I always told my wife that his character Shane in TWD was the most real out of all the group in the situation they were in(Apocalyptic). The way he acted and the the things he decided were spot on.
Actually quite the opposite. Dude is like most rappers, pretending for clout. Jon was born rich af and has never been tough or street. He pretends to be so people like you will buy in
@@mrrooster4876 hahaha who cares dude. When did he kiss your girls chest? You been trying to bury him in every comment thread like you know him personally. From peoples first hand accounts. Tons of them in the comments he sounds like a down to earth guy. Wtf does it matter he grew up with money? Every person on Instagram grew up poor and act like they have more money than they have this guy isn’t claiming to have grown up rough. Idgaf one way or the other. But the way you’re focused on burying him bothers the shit out of me
One thing he didn't mention is that Gorky Park is now an extremely expensive, clean, safe and sought after neighbourhood in Moscow Putin, love him or hate him, really cleaned Russia up. Imagine turning a crime ridden, homeless, junkie infested hellhole in LA into something like Manhattan but with less crime and cleaner in about a decade
I presume he was there in the 90s. Which by far was one of the darkest times there, that as consequence had a drop of average life expectancy for men by 6 years in just 3 years. That pictures the horror, desperation and brutality of the times Russian men had to go through every day. Scary experience but thankful for Jon's sharing and honesty.
I was at a laundry mat on Sunset in Hollywood in 1984, I met a girl fresh from the Soviet Union, her first day here, she goes to a Ralph's and sees all the fruit, produce, and meat...she thought it was staged just for her because they were brainwashed into thinking Americans were starving due to massive food shortages, then she told me everyone has the same amount of possessions and if you dare miss a day of work, a black 4 door sedan pulls up...and you disappear
@@ethernalclassic3076 I can read people, she was for real, I've found foreigners arriving here are open books, not capable of embellishment, her point was thinking a Ralph's chock full of meats, fresh fruits and produce was stated just for her...being a victim of propaganda her whole life
Jon Bernthal did a stunning job in the show American Gigolo as in all his roles, unfortunately Hollywood doesn't like actors who are too talented and too smart, it doesn't matter because we love him so much.
Bernthal is awesome. Took a pic with him and the whole TWD cast that came (Rooker and Reedus included) the year before he got the Punisher role and I remember being super shy because I was 13 and meeting the stars of my favorite show. Jon was kind was wanted me to lose the nerves because they were just some guys. Made me put my hand on his shoulder and take a pic with him, gave me a fist bump and I said, man you'd make a good Punisher. Then a year later Netflix announced he'd been cast and I was dumbfounded
@@scottf5791 no bro, when he was a teenager he really went up against the russian mob and totally roundhouse kicked that dude through the windshield, then got a bj and 50bucks from the lady and everyone clapped. Its true, I was there and I clapped.
Joe nails it on the head with this one. Russia can be harsh but in 6 months it changed my life forever. Every day people will blow your mind with kindness and how giving they are as human beings.
Back in the 90-s Gorky Park was an area where a lot of bad stuff went down, despite it being the centre of Moscow. Now there’s a huge family/recreation park and this district is one of the most expensive ones in terms of real estate prices
Thank you for this. John spoke of this experience so eloquently. And when he was there it was a terrible time for Russia because of how the western world and the USA was destroying the country. Go there now and it is like a totally different place. People have no idea how wonderful and interesting the Russian people are. There is no greater home to culture on earth. I have seen John's work. But seeing his honesty I have gained a new appreciation for him.
@@meditationsonthemount4135 Really? Did you hear anything what he said? Did you hear his description of where Russia was twenty years ago and where it is now? You call this running it into the ground? Just name calling. Obviously you have never been there. You should go there and see what a prosperous, vital, beautiful country this is. There is nothing running into the ground. Whether your looking at technology such as new space exploration. Or culture the leaders in literature and art. Or prosperity they have the fastest growing economy in that part of the world and the most powerful currency in the world. I have been there. As for a "terrorist murder" that's just more name calling with no evidence. And it shows ignorance of the actual facts. You are right about the Russian people though. People are just people anywhere you go.
Dude, everyone can tell you're just spewing propaganda. The prosperity you're claiming is bullshit, and they were not being "destroyed by the west/USA"; that's just Russia's boilerplate scapegoat for whenever anything goes wrong.
@@Wellepay Dude? How can you tell its propaganda? Because you don't know anything about Russia? Why would I "spew propaganda?" I have been there and seen it with my own eyes. I have read a few books. I have talked to and made friends with people who have lived through this nightmare that was created by the west. What is your experience dude? Watch the BBC documentary series called "Trauma Zone" if you want to see it for yourself and you don't actually read. But I don't think you want to see the truth. That will give you all of the facts. As for Scapegoating. You can see all of the facts. You don't have to go any further than USA politicians to see scapegoating. Let me ask you something if you are not some US government propagandist like the last guy who responded to me. When has Russian come all the way over the the USA to fuck with us? Huh? Never. Why is it always the USA going and fucking with everyone else? Why do our government jackals have to go around the world interfering with other countries continuously? Do you know how many military bases the US has around the world? Do you know how many coups and regime changes the USA has sponsored or initiated. No you don;t because you are clueless dude. But I will tell you over a thousand military base over 45 coups. Why is that? Thats not boilerplate or propaganda that's fact. Don't believe me. Watch a video or two by Jeffery Sachs Colombia University economist, he was there during the Bush and Clinton and Bush administrations. He will tell you.
1999 when he was 23. I was there at the same time and about the same age as him then (according to Google I am a year older than him). Was wonderful then too, but also rough in many places. I still dine out on stories about the "Hungry Duck" bar, ha ha.
I was in Moscow before the wall came down and had to pay cash for a jaywalking ticket too. The gov't was corrupt but the people were amazing. My friend and I went outside the tourist zone with some people we met out eating dinner. The conditions were like a slum but the people were so nice and giving to us. It was scary taking the train back in to the hotel in the morning. We were in trouble the rest of the trip because the lady at the end of the hall reported we had not come back the night before.
I called it years ago when I first saw this guy. I thought he looked like a young Richard Gere and I thought it would be cool if they redid American Gigolo with him. I also think he is a great actor and will be an Academy Award winner one day, he is that good and he has amazing range. He seems super chill as well.
In lived in Georgia 🇬🇪 the country, for a while since my husband is Georgian and many Russians and Ukrainians live there also. It is a humbling experience as an American to witness a second world country and the hospitality that can be shown as well as the other but i always witness more hospitality. I admire the ability to preserve through so many invasions and poverty and still roses in the arts, like you talk about Jon. They are incredibly bright and talented and should be an inspiration all. I do however love and greatly appreciate my own country and realise how lucky i am to live here and hope we can keep it the land of the free. It definitely was more helpful when i learned the Russian language more and the Cyrillic alphabet
russia is way different than georgia first of all, and your husband probably doesn't appreciate you learning russian as we, georgians dislike russia as a whole
@@porthmeus actually I’m learning Georgian as well and my husband also speaks Russian, Mingrelian, Ukranian and Kartuli naturally. His people are mostly Mingrelian who had to flee Abkhazia. I learn both Russian and Kartuli and also Ukranian as those are the majorities in Georgian at the moment and we conduct business there with his family business. So, before you sound off about a subject matter you know very little of, how about you ask a few questions politely first or not. I’m aware of the status in Georgia as i see the FUCK RUSSIA spray paint on the walls all over, it’s apparent and why but there is still commerces between the countries and i know good Russians as well as good Ukranian and good Georgians so before you spread your hate agenda on here with your blanket statements, do some research! Obviously i do not agree with Putins war, but that is not another excuse to hate a whole nationality of people. That is not what the works or any country needs! That’s what has helped to get us all into this mess to begin with
@@mckaughnbrown5969 there is "commerces" with usa and russia aswell, not just georgia and russia and that being said usa clearly is buying oil and such goods from russia and then reselling it to europe as russia has to sell it to usa for a cheaper price cause there are no consumers otherthan europe which cause of the war had to pull out of the deal, now usa is the gateway to get those needs and I and other georgians don't hate russia cause of just putin, in history COUNTLESS times russia has betrayed georgia in numerous of different ways for exact during king erekle one of the most famous kings of georgia, russia betrayed georgia and let persian troops outnumber and demolish our army while we were so called "prepared" for russians to come and help us and it obviously affected our troops morale and our strategy was way different, so that lead to us being defeated and not just that in most times russia was always using georgia for its own gains, never once did it help georgia if it didn't gain anything through it.
@@mrrooster4876 he said he's a knucklehead, not "street". Never heard Bernthal describe himself as street in any way. He just got in lots of fights as a kid and got in trouble a lot.
@@killdizzle if you actually listen to the entire podcast, he talks about how he is grateful about his family who had the means to get him out of trouble unlike some other kids who get in trouble. But, you know, it’s easier to hate.
I'm sure it was self-interest, the dude didn't want a manhunt for the person who murdered a foreign national. This was probably organized crime, not some random insane junky with a gun who wouldn't think twice.
This though, wouldn't have happened with a cartel member or some hood gangster in the states. They are extremely brutal but also very understanding of what they are doing and why.
Bumped into him years ago at JFK where I was working. He was flying out and asked me for directions to get coffee somewhere. It was the same year he got killed off TWD. We talked alittle and I said that it sucked he got killed off. He was like well its not all bad because I might have something big coming up. Of course he couldn't tell me but it ended up being Punisher. We talked for 10 mins as I ended up walking him to Starbucks. Fantastic guy and I feel an underrated actor.
In the USSR they at times really tried to push hight culture into society, and were worried about shallow American celebrity stuff have a negative effect.
I met him at comic con during his first year as punisher, NOBODY was in his line, so I took a photo and spent 5 minutes talking with him. Such a real dude.
Damn, did you have to pay him for the photo?
@@Doorito_ i have a story to tell
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what do you mean. what would make you think that there is something wrong with what i said did you see kit fisto spelling off a mentor who was like a brother to me once told me “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat later”
“if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat and a danger to our later generation our loved ones.”
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i’m not saying that i agree with you but then again I’m not always correct either I remember a time back in the 80s when I was growing up things were different back then these youngsters today what makes you think that? It’s all right to disagree with people I remember when I was a young man growing up in the 80s in America it was a different time then back then we used to call each other this is the best I’ve seen from you guys in a while
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And he is now the only Punisher
@@Doorito_ yeah, 10 for a photo $35 to chat. But it was absolutely worth every penny for the memories alone
@@DARTHNEWS 🤣🤣🤣 wot a loser
This guy is on a short list of highly underappreciated actors in Hollywood
Really? He pretty much plays the same guy in every movie. I will say he's good at making you dislike him, but I'm not sure if he has to work too hard at that.
@@cristoff30 Wait! No! No! No! No! No! No!
@@cristoff30 neither do you apparently
He’s never the bad guy. He’s the misunderstood morally good dude in most movies. Unless we’re watching different movies.
We need 50 more actors behaving like him, there’s not a trace of ego to be found.
As a Russian born shortly before the USSR collapsed and the notorious 90s started, I’d like to comment that the timespan he is talking about is considered ROUGH even by the Russians themselves. Luckily, I haven’t faced anything similar when I lived in Russia, but I’m from Siberia, not Moscow
Funny thing is that there are similar rough times in NYC. I was in Russia and people from the university were extremely nice. People in Moscow reminded me of Paris, pissed off you are their client XD. Very high level in science and academia.
@@manoo2056 ...and there is St Petersburg which is art and science squared...compared to Moscow.
That doesn’t explain why the men were killing the woman though
"rough" puts it mildly, Adan Curtis did a doc on it It's free to watch. All real archive footage.
Jon Bernthal and Keanu Reeves are some of the rarest, most awesome actors left.
They're both so rare that they're unique since there is only one of each of them.
Thats an absurd comment. Earth has never had more population and therefor more trained talented actors.
I wouldn't say that they are THAT awesome actors, but they are definitely awesome human beings.
+ Henry Cavill
Will Smith
I was a pool bartender at chateau Marmont for a few years. He would bring his kids down, have dinner and let them play in the pool. His kids are wild, very well behaved and respectful, but acted like kids should act at a pool. Not the norm at chateau. All us bartenders loved it..little pressure release from the stuffy atmosphere. Every single time he came, when they were leaving. Would come up to all the bar tenders. Tip us handsomely. But more importantly, shake our hands firmly, look us in the eye, and give us genuine thank you for letting his kids have a good time. He’s a great guy
Did you see a lot of great actors there?
So cool 😎 👍
Love your positive message, so much negative things online it’s nice when people post good things. Sounds like an awesome guy
That what it’s about … yeah show your success and appreciation with a nice tip … but show your respect man to man with and honest handshake and gesture. Real dude .
That's a great story, love to hear when any humans, famous or not, act like we should. 👍😎
Imagine that Russian dude years later watching the Walking dead being like "Yo, I think held a gun to that guys head one night"
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All of the 90s Russian gangsters all ended up dead pretty much. Very few made it out. Eventually the government got fed up and cleaned it up very strictly. Putin was credited with cleaning out all the gangsters
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@@v2plus4 you mean he got rid of his competition and made it look like he was doing the people a favor loll a lot of those former KGB agents (like Putin) made money from the fall of the USSR.
hahahaah
When I was in Moscow 5 years ago I noticed too how people in the subway read a lot of literature. All the people I met were all really nice and polite and although not many spoke english they tried their best to be helpful and the city overall seemed pretty safe to me. I travelled in several places in my life but Moscow has some really unique vibes.
8 years ago, Moscow was at its peak. 5 years ago isn't far from it.
By that time western influence was kicked out of Russia. No more western run government, cops or gangs. Still some leftover damage to the overall culture obviously but without direct western control things got better practically overnight.
What are you talking about? Moscow is one of the safest cities in the world right now and probably the cleanest. His story is from 90-s. Thats like telling the story from Detroit right now. 5 years ago? Lol whats changed 5 years ago?
@@JohnSmith-pj1xx I agree, I'm from Moscow and I think it's really safe and convenient city to live in, I wish all Russian cities were like this... But also I still don't like this city. I mean Moscow is comfortable and safe but it's ugly af. In center of the city it's decent with a lot of popular places but when you're walking away it's getting worse and worse. For me it's like depression city, it's so gray that you'll get depression while living here
That's now. 90s early 2000s were like Chicago in 20s
I'm a immigrant who now holds citizenship, Jon hit the nail on the head when he said that people in the US do not appreciate what they have. It is because they have never experienced life outside of the US. There are a lot of things that could use improvement here, but people here need to realize how good it is/can be here. There is a lot of opportunity here and we are relatively safe from a lot that people in other countries are not.
It's not our problem what's going on in other countries ..5hese people that come here from there need to stop moaning about how good it is in america and just appreciate it
Well said Tanya.
I agree with you my lady 100%
I couldn't agree more. The americans that hate america are usually the ones that were born here and benefited from growing up here, the Americans that immigrated here tend to really appreciate america and fulfill the american dream in my opinion.
@@mccleandazza4618 The problem are all the leftists that preach about how terrible America is
I met Jon a few years ago in Upstate NY, I was 17 at the time. He was with his daughter walking around town at night *probably not wanting to be disturbed, but he was nice enough to talk to me and my buddy. Truly good guy, I'll never forget that moment.
@Sovereign Soul When I was not wanting to be disturbed I just mean he was out walking at night, not in broad day. We just walked up to him and asked if he was Jon Bernthal
@@sheaiek You forgot to add the part where you take a shit. Sovereign soul wanted to know if you approached him and "shit".
@BCSimonYT lol. Fuckin Sovereign Soul. What a zaney guy. Always saying the zaniest stuff I tell ya.
Was he filming a movie or show up there?
@@BCSimonYT lmao nice one
Having spent a lot of time in the former USSR during the past 25 years, and as a Russian speaking American, I say he's spot on regarding the honesty of Russian people. Note the thug didn't kill him, saw he was a foreigner and let him go. Totally believable there. A good yarn.
WHAT? Russians are like the least honest people out there.
@Alexander Treue Yeah, lot of exaggeration. Typical western account of an Russian experience or another slavic slavic nation for that matter, except he didn't mention the "unbelievable amount" of alcohol we all drink, all day, all night, non-stop. (say hello to Bert K.)
In my Russian studies I learned that Russian people are welcoming but its cold to outsiders. My Russian teacher told me someone once greeted her to their house saying “oh my goodness youre fat! Let me fill your belly.” To her it was a warm, kind thing to say. But i think it illustrates the honesty
@@mastadriver cause you were there with him?
Бля, во чуваку повезло. Но это уже были поздние девяностые. Когда начался пиздец после развала - просто шоком он бы не отделался.
Jon Bernthal and Henry Caville my two favorite actors. They are real genuine people who don't live in the Hollywood bubble.
the unfortunate thing is that hollywood treats them like crap.
caville is not imho an actor at all. he is just wannabe....
@@non9886 neither of them are classically “great” actors tbh but I like em both as ppl. Jon is a cool guy
@@non9886 this doesnt even make sense
@@non9886 wtf are you talking about
I live in one of the former USSR satellite countries, the story with the thug is so real. Lot of these guys had secret police or KGB experience, so they were not your average street thugs. When mafia started carving up territories in early 90s you had car bombs, machine gun fire, I saw a cut off head in front of a club in a flower pot. Once they put a huge bomb under sidewalk to get a boss that was well protected, blew up half the street. Later they figured out violence is not good for business and its better if people just disappear.
"Once they put a huge bomb under sidewalk to get a boss that was well protected, blew up half the street" what city?
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz Maybe in Central Asia or the Caucasus.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz This was in Budapest, assassination of mob boss Tamas Boros, 3 innocent bystanders were killed and more than 20 (I think) injured.
Happens everywhere us,uk etc… humans will human
@@Milk-bh3nu It's horribly worse over there.
Need a lot more bernthal. This guy is seriously legit.
Too legit 2 quit
He has a podcast out called Real Ones; he is amazing.
@@melindaworkman7481 yeah, I need to give it a listen. Thank you!
Woah sick brah
It is ironic how this very clip started with him spewing BS though. Gorky Park is far, far from being a "rough" part of Moscow, it never has been. Not so sure if the guy is legit.
After watching it on Spotify. Wow, he was in class of Oleg Tabakov. Unbelievable. Folks, just remember that you have to go to college and graduate with degree in order to become an actor in Russia or USSR. Much respect to John.
That’s not true. There’re actors with no formal education here in Russia. It’s harder to get the roles without a degree but some still make it regardless.
@@anchovy2764 and there's RUclips and TikTok nowadays.
USSR? Nigga it ceased to exist 30 years ago, stop referring to the countries of former USSR as USSR. Are you writing from a British colony? Which one of the 13?
@@alexmonza2823 he was speaking about how things used to work in the USSR when the USSR still existed. Also I'm pretty sure it's inappropriate to refer to him in the way you did, as Tsoi is a Korean surname.
BTW for anyone who doesn't know who Oleg Tabakov was - he was a legendary Soviet/Russian actor. In my mind he's the voice of kot Matroskin in one well-known Soviet cartoon.
I worked in Russia for 9 years, and lived in Moscow from 1996-1999. I saw a lot of things similar to what Jon described, and agree with him that the arts there are amazing.
Russia in the 90s was something else. Something else.
Yeah it's nothing like that now. It's lovely and peaceful
@@mfnzer I went back a few years ago for a visit and it was amazing. All the advertising billboards were removed, the city was very clean, it felt like a modern European city to me.
@Corbrwl I have just left 15 days ago. I would of loved to have seen the contrast. I have done a bit of traveling and only Tokyo can compete with how clean and organized the city is. I meet stunning highly educated worldy people. I would walk around at ridiculous hrs all around the city and I have never felt so safe and I am from New Zealand. I could not speak more highly of the people the women and the culture. I want to head back there for the lifestyle. Cheers for the msg! You must of been there at a intriguing time.
Lie. He wasnt in Russia." One fact" about road police with ak 47 is so laughable so you understand hes a complete fraud. That story about a woman is fake too lol. Yesh i know it since i living in russia from 1982 lol
Everyone knows him from punisher and walking dead but I feel like his role in fury was the best. Along with the whole crew of that tank. The way they all were so different role wise and played off each other was so deep and real.
I was in Croatia and in Serbia living for a year (they are also slavic) and they are also 100% truthful when talking to you. Beautiful cultures.
@@deebo5474 yeah Croatia and Slovenia are more Roman Catholic whole Serbia and Montenegro are more Greek Orthodox. Didn't visit the other Balkans but I assume they're all mixes of whatever is between.
People from Balkans are usually much more honest and open and communicative, compared to some other slavic peoples.
@@deebo5474 Okay what a non educated thing to say. I am Croatian and I have been to Turkey.... The difference between people in my country and there is staggering. I have been only to like 10 countries but Turkish people are the most rude and arrogant people I ever met. I can see how they were invaders and had an empire. Turkey invaded Bosnia and that's why there are Muslims there still today. Croatia, the coast lines are more like Italians and continentals are like Hungarian and Austrian people because thats what the influence was over history.
@@mrfatuchi i was specifically talking about bosnia when i said turkey. Calm down mate
@@deebo5474 Not a huge deal but Balkans are ex-Communist not ex-Soviet. And Yugoslavia was barely even ex-Warsaw Pact, they were in it very briefly and then left almost immediately to be neutral between west and east.
John is one of the good ones in Hollywood. Always a good interview, just a cool person
Have you seen
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
best interview ever 🔥
@@wenmoon448 oh.. really?
He needs to stick to talking acting etc though. His supporting BLM really turned me off him bad. Anyone with a brain, an internet connection.... knows it's run by 3 big fat pig black women who buy mansions with the donations. BLM has nothing to do with awareness of and/or stopping police brutality or George Floyds death. It's all an anti white male money grab. In fact they donate more to trans activism than to any groups trying to stop police brutality. Because one of the founders is dating some trans person. Wake up people. These groups and movements are started by greedy mongers who use division to get rich.
@@gwildordipkin6504 every jew supports blm by default
@@username4441 its bad news uh huh
Dang Jon is one of my favorite actors, and learning he lived in Russia for a while is crazy. I’ve been trying to learn the language for 4 years and I can’t imagine what it would be like to live there. He seems like a great guy
I went there for a few weeks in 2003. It was fascinating but you also feel vulnerable. You can see the beauty in people but you can also see the brutality in life there. From just walking down the street you get a sense of the deep history of the place but also that blood was spilt here. I mentioned this to my tour guide and she just said ‘yes’.
@@LCOF 2003 was still dangerous transitional time, though safer than the 90s. I went again in 2008 and it was pretty safe everywhere I've been (spent time in 10 cities and lived in 3)
Omg. I tried to learn. Lol. Failed miserably, but, my borscht makes up for it.
Good luck. It’s soooo hard.
@@LCOF Ironically Russia now has a lower murder rate than most American cities.
@@LCOFit was 21 years ago 😁! Russia is different now and Moscow is the best city for me.
Born and raised in Iran. Then lived all over Europe, moved to US in 1994, visited Russia 4 times in the last year and I have never seen a beautiful country, culture and churches as I did in Russia..
Moscow a city of over 15 million people, and I felt safe, same thing with Saint Petersburg.
I like Saint Petersburg even more
Why are people saying that woman beater was "nice" or "good" for letting him go? It's obviously more convenient not kill someone, especially a foreigner.
everyone's sociopathic these days, people's minds are completely twisted. it's like waking up in an episode of twilight zone every day
Must be a bunch of liberals
"lucky," is prob the word they were looking for
I don't think you listened to what Jon said, because even Jon admitted that he could tell this guy was doing him a favor not killing him. He basically said, the guy saw him as a bug. Who cares about killing a bug?
People on that level don't care what's convenient. They obviously have the connections and money to get out of almost anything. He just recognized that he was a foreigner and had no idea what he was getting himself into. So he spared him. Russian people of that caliber will absolutely delete you. However unlike many other countries, they have the ability to recognize right from wrong and there is common law between people like that, IF you know what you're getting yourself into, you face full consequences. IF you didn't know, you are in the right, you're given a warning and you go without consequence. They follow that law to the dot and your own people will delete you if you break it.
'not because they are emotionally fragile or weak, just because they're honest'
Sounds like something a simp would say about wahmen
I'll tell you, as a person born in Eastern Europe, the first option will still be true here. Life in the post-Soviet space is an emotional meat grinder.
@@boomstickmcnugget2090 Way to speculate kids 👌
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@@ilearncode7365 Incel spotted
He learned he needed to learn how to speak Russian.
to be honest he was probably better off not knowing it and being a foreigner shouting “whatre you doing” instead of the russian translation thereof, then they probably wouldve beat him up or worse
@@omarsaletovicprins9632 Weird assumption to make. What do you even base that on?
@@omarsaletovicprins9632 yeah they probably forgave him because they knew he was a foreigner who didn't know how things worked, if he had spoken Russian they would assume he's been living there his whole life and already knew the rules so yeah he would have died
@@tinkywinky4449 well firstly, maybe they would forgive someone who doesnt know the rules and send him off with a stiff warning, secondly, its usually pretty frowned upon to kill a foreigner/turist. not really something you can sweep under the rug.
Why? To ask that guy if he really would rather use a can opener on that lady’s head or if he should get lost?
He did an amazing job as The Punisher. Thoroughly enjoyed his performance, along with his co-stars and supporting actors. An amazing piece of work.
Absolutely!
Jon will always be the punisher for me. Awesome actor
Idk Tomas Jane was pretty good. Lungren was a good laugh.
He's the perfect casting for the next Wolverine. Thomas Jane is too emo for punisher, he's too egocentric in his roles, really thinks a lot of himself vs the character.
To me he'll always be the asshole that tried to kill Rick. Looool
Bruh, the punisher wouldn't leave that woman there.
@@Janzer_ next wolverine…Oo yeah that can really interesting..
Knowing how much Jon cares about people and is a fighter, I bet having to leave that girl really fucked with him. God bless him
Oh… I was thinking it probably never happened 🤣
absolutely. i know people who have died for less over here in that situation in bar fights. UFC fighter Houston Alexander has a story where he did the same thing Jon did here, but he ended up getting shot and almost killed for it. great story but it goes to show you how easy you could lose your life.
Hmm...Kinda weird that the story would end there though. Why wouldn't he be frantically trying to get her help from some kind of authorities if his 'bug' status truly prevented him from helping in the moment. His energy in describing that was as if someone just scared him away from them pissing on a grave site or something. Like he really just walked away from someone potentially being murdered just shrugging his shoulders? wtf I wouldn't be able to live with myself without trying to help her in some way.
Have you seen
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
THAT is the best interview ever fire
She was just part of his story so when he left it was like she was killed off screen, doesn't matter
I recommend listening the whole episode! Amazing guest with good stories and great storytelling
Everything is always in a timely manner and look at you now. I'm glad you have brought thier story and yours back to share with the world. It's OK to love and give them hope right ...
This man is the perfect casting for the next Wolverine. Always was.
He's already the punisher in the MCU since daredevil is canon
@@kongvods6008 I dont think daredevil is completely canon is he? I thought it was a soft reboot with the new show coming out but I might be wrong I haven't kept up with a lot of marvel since the horrific phase 4. Maybe he could be cast as wolverine but I think it would be confusing and he already plays a very good punisher.
Have you seen
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
best interview ever 😆
He’s one of the greatest actors of the past 20 years, he doesn’t need to be wasting his talent on more comic book movies
We need more Wolverine movies like we need Vladimir Putin as POTUS.
This was a great podcast. Listened to the whole thing on Spotify 👊🏻
Great guest and an interesting conversation. Having listened to their entire podcast and as someone who was born and raised in Russia, but has lived in the US for close to 15 years now, I can definitely say that 90s were a terrible time for the county and probably the worst one to visit. Back then there was a lot of criminal activity everywhere and the country was being divided by the rich oligarchs, a lot of whom have since fled and now pretend to be the “truth tellers”. Back in the 90s it was extremely difficult for a vast majority of regular people to have their ends meet - employees were often receiving goods (electronics, grain, etc.) instead of actual salary, including my parents, so the majority of the population was much more focused with providing for their family and trying to simply survive. Things have changed significantly since then and definitely for the better. Russian cities are no longer as dangerous as they used to be (majority are very safe in comparison with the cities in the US, for example), people in general have more money to spend on not only the most essential needs, and the access to information has greatly improved, even as compared to the 90s. Everyone can easily get access to VPN services, if needed, and there is a lot of various information/opinions available on RUclips, as opposed to the mainstream media. Even my 70+ year old mother accesses RUclips on a daily basis and follows a variety of different channels. So to sum it all up, I’d have to disagree with Jon here in terms of things being currently worse in Russia as they were in the 90s - in fact, it’s quiet the opposite. It would have been good for him to visit modern Russia as opposed to making assumptions based on how everything was back in the 90s. But nevertheless, a very interesting conversation.
Absolutely agree with you! As a Russian myself, I can confirm that EVERY person in Russia would say that 90s were dark, scary times, Time of Troubles. It was the time when many grandmas were selling heroine just to get some money. The young men were raised by criminals in the street, and the most effective criminals took themselves almost all the wealth the country had. It was the time when shooting outside was normal, when salaries were often given IN BOTTLES OF VODKA. Mind-blowing....
As a young man of 24 (in 1994) I travelled to Russia on the trans-siberian express from Beijing to St Petersburg...I had a few days in Moscow and it was a real shock to see how beautiful it was but also how poor. Looking back it was probably one of the most dangerous times to visit and I'd be lying if I didn't say I felt unsafe more than once. I found the Russians I met to be good people but there were alot of desperate people too. The Russian culture / history is incredible and in the West we know very little of it apart from the propaganda we see in films etc. The truth is most Russians are decent people who love their country, are proud of their heritage.
You don't know that by visiting a couple of days not even speaking Russian.
@@blokin5039 I can only tell you my experience
@@Lucaf_2008 Agreed.
Yeah, people like to say that collapse of the USSR was a good thing but they dont bother to talk how shitty it became inside Russia and all other ex soviet republics in the 90's. It was brutal :(
@@PeyoteCowboy Ahwell. Commies get what they deserve
Man what a story. I was engaged in literally every second of it.
Yeah, he's a great story teller
Not sure if it’s real. They know they have to give good stories when they go on JRE. probably rehearsed it a bunch.
He forgot to tell you that he did a backflip and landed on the building above that guy with the gun, so he could get away.
Have you seen
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
😆 🤣
@@Fifabeast389 if you anything about the late 90s early 2000s in Russia... this story is mild, it's one "with the good ending"
Wow he’s an amazing storyteller, I was captivated from beginning to end.
Well this was very obviously a made up story lol
I love this dude. One of those ppl who you always hear good things about. To me Wolf of Wall Street, Punisher, and The Accountant are his best role.
I lost count of how many times he called himself a fuckup.
The road to self awareness is long and fraught with difficulties and disappointments. Reaching the goal requires brutal acceptance of one's flaws and a level of self-honesty that most people seem incapable of, especially in western societies. It can be extremely challenging to recognize unpleasant truths about one's self, while simultaneously, it can be liberating, as Mr. Bernthal shows. Powerful stuff.
Don't forget asshole. He used that alot too.🤣🤣
He’s a fuckup, in that he fucks upward in life.
We should all fuckup so well.
Guilty
The first time I crossed one of those roads it was crazy, 10 lanes. I was dodging cars, I don’t know how I got across alive. I met a local and asked how on earth did he cross. Like Jon said, there are underground arcades everywhere.
Gorky Park is fine..
But getting lost there, and crossing that road, brings back memories. Its like a gladiator contest
Oh maybe during 90s but I was back in 2018 there in Moscow all alone for 12 days and had great time with exactly 0 issues encounter. Not only that I wonder around in all possible museums but I also went to the street markets, monasteries, Gorky Park (when it was falling dark), then in Moscow suburbs also getting lost but locals helped me to navigate and again had no issues, visited bunch of metro stations. All in all safer then in US and comparing to Paris I would say Moscow is twice safer.
@@rogyn8484 Moscow is not Russia. St. Petersburg is not Russia. Most of Russia is terrible. Outhouses are common. Open sewage. Crumbling, depressing old soviet style apartments. Everything looks exactly the same, like they are frozen in ussr era timecapsule, but nothing is cleaned or fixed. Garbage collection is a joke. School facilities are pretty bad, too. They don’t live long, either. It’s brutal. Even ppl w power and money aren’t protected. Putin has been throwing most of ru leadership class out windows and off buildings at record pace. Anyone w talent who cld leave has. And there’s a serious population issue. Ww2 set it off and it keeps getting worse.
@@melm295 I was visiting out of Moscow as well and not everything is as you described, there were some very decent smalller towns in surroundings. Sure there are places totally devastated too but Russia is simply very large, differences between the regions are drastic especially further you go from the main centers. However what you can see in LA and some other cities l never saw anywhere else, even so called "third world countries" do not have drug abuse and street violence like US is having currently. In US you can also find buldings similar to those from communists time in Russia, bunch of "projects" and neighborhoods where you are not safe to go even during the day. US gives to individuals more opportunities to develop but also and much more opportunities to destroy themselves. Like it or not US is far more dangerous then Russia overall, now we can talk about politics but that would be topic for itself.
@@rogyn8484 surrounding areas of Moscow are like Brooklyn or Upstate or Jersey is to nyc. It is not safer. Especially for women as domestic violence is not only legal, but normalized. There's a clip from a Russian tv show where a girl was punched out by her boyfriend. Or it cld have been the host. No one did anything. He beat her bad. If you are gay, you may be kidnapped and tortured by police. It is the most corrupt country, I believe, in the world. If not number 1, then number 2 or 3, ect. You have to pay bribes to get even basic government services.. The Russian mob is an arm of the government, so you have to pay them "taxes" too. Russians don't live very long, either. And like I said, in America, overwhelming majority of the population have plumbing and indoor toilets. You should see how the average Russian lives. Idk what propaganda you are consuming to not be aware of how bad the repression and persecution of any type of freedom there is. Or that selling children for sex by parents is isn't a rarity. Or that police can take you and torture you for using Grindr or saying something that they interpret as not being supportive of Russian war. The local population has been completely defeated by so many centuries of atrocity and genocidal dictators. There is a video of an old woman being picked up and thrown off a bus for saying something bad about the war. If you have hiv in Russia, ur screwed. The hospitals are terrible; something one wld expect in the 3rd world. The infrastructure and airplanes aren't reliable. Very little maintenance is done on anything outside where plutocrats live. So, ur wrong. It doesn't compare in any way to America. Russians were desperate to come here, esp young ones, before. My ex bf was from Moscow; quite a few of his friends were willing to pay to marry me to get green card. They don't do that bc their country is comparable to America. And now, it's even worse. Ppl wouldn't be fleeing by the hundreds of thousands if it was as you claim. Whoever is feeding u the bs has an agenda. The facts are out there. Just use google, ffs..
@@melm295 I was alone, walking in the middle of the night in Moscow and some other places and I had exactly zero issues. Would situation be different if I was at some rural Russian town or I was there in the middle of the winter? Well maybe, but then again all the things you mentioned and even worst you can find in US. People in LA and Chicago blocks walking like zombies on drugs, bunch of addicted maniacs and prostitutes on the streets, homeless people thrown out because they had no money to pay credits or they gambled and lost all, gang violence where you can be killed for nothing or shoot by police if you not put hands up on the very first warning, mass university and school shootings... All of this you have in videos as well if we are using search "google" logic or look at the official international statistics where rape in US is on much higher scale then in Russia. That contrast between luxury and misery in such a close range of only couple of blocks away I never saw anywhere else besides in the large US cities. US have a great business opportunities but as well opportunities to fall to the lowest points that no other countries in Europe are having. People who are running into US from Eastern Europe for a green cards are those who not wish to be cheap labor in their own places, what they not understand is that in US you will be cheap labor as well barely connecting one end to the other. In best case scenarios you will buy something and be on credit for the whole life paying some apartment or renting sending rest of the money back home to family. Do you know how many people from US are moving into Europe by the way? I have friend who moved here and he said that will burn US passport just if he gets any other because he not wish to live in such a brainwashed society. East Europe in general have "lower complex" issue especially young people who think that if their friends took photo in NY posing for the Instagram all their lives are one perfect fairytale. Sad reality can hit them if they arrive and realize that it is far from what they expected. Not sure where you are from but I have Russian friends all around Russia and I have friends all around US as well. Those are two totally different systems and views on life. This saying I am not supporting dictatorships like the one you have in Russia but I am also not supporting corporate liberalism which is based on culture devastation in order to achieve profits. Fact is that almost all Europe countries are safer then US.
I’m a Black who has lived in Russia for over 8 years. I came here as a student and on my first day in the country in Russia I saw a man who was shot daed and lying in his pool of blood. I thought I came to a fucked up place, but I was dead wrong. I have never seen such honest and great people. Thanks to them I speak English better. Yeah, that’s strange, but their language is so rich that you have to always read the meanings of the words you translate. The people’s names are being spoilt by their government, but I can’t deny the fact that I’m blessed to be here. The main problem is the language and not even racism, unlike in the USA.
Racism isnt the main problem in USA, it is all the parasites
GREAT OBSERVATION. And it's so true that who we are is reflected in our language, and being exposed long term to another culture is like living a life with a life. I love Russians, too, BTW. Stay safe, friend. 👍❤️😎
Racism is overblown in America
THIS ONE WILL BE SO GOOD
He has a great podcast 🍿
Well i can say with 1000% honesty that i have been ajon berenthal fan since watchin the pilot episode 4 the walking dead when it aired & he couldve been the worst actor on earth but he reminded me alot, looks & mannerisms of my cousins boyfriend ben, the only positive, younger, male influence i had growin up he was a perfect role model that was also very cool lol & let me drive his convertible golf gti back in 80's! That i could looked up 2 & as just as my childhood hero did, jon has NEVER once disappointed me. Very talented 👏 👌 👍
I've been around a lot of Russian tourists here in Thailand the last few months. They have a reputation of not being approachable/not easy to talk to but that is just their persona in public. Behind close doors is just like what Bernthal says they are completely honest/without pretension. So rare in this world.
Phuket?
phuket was full of russians, been there on december. i think that they dont wanna speak ijnenglish
@@currier207 Jomtien, near Pattaya
The world is filled with obnoxious non-Russians who speak Russian in public. They will never tell you their true ethnicity.
All those sanctions and Russians are still the biggest visitors for countries such as Thailand and Turkey (hitting records).
I celebrated my 22nd birthday (1994) in Vladimir Russia while studying abroad as a college student. I just remember how polite and welcoming the people were. I would tell them I was an American from Chicago and the response was “Michael Jordan! Al Capone!”. Sad how our relationship with Russia has soured.
👀It's heartbreaking for Cold War kids who watched the Wall fall... I feel for all Ukraine and Russian citizens/soldiers caught up in yet another M. I. C. project $$$... 😮💨
Not sad at all, it was American influence that created the thugs in the story. The government, cops and cartels were all run from Washington. The leaders all had American flags on their desks.
The more the relationship sours between the usa and a nation the less corrupt and violent the place becomes. If things go on like this the Russians will soon sweep the corrupt officials and organised crime out of Russia entirely.
I like this guy, but... I was born in Russia, and raised in Russia and other parts of the USSR. Ak-47s in your face for crossing the Tverskaya sounds like way overkill, even for the 90's.
And 20 Rubles were worth like a single dollar in the 90's. The "Militia" would laugh their asses off if you tried to bribe'em with 20 Rub.
So at least these parts of the story are a bit contrived.
ikr, like 20 rubles are yo userious xD
@@HealzHS 😂
Dude, in 90’s 20 rubles was like 5 bucks or something like it
Jon is a great actor and a phenomenal person & role model for us. I hope to see many more roles with him.
This must've been a long time ago, because as far as I'm aware (as someone living in Moscow) - Gorky Park is awesome in itself, very well kept, lots of money invested in it. It's literally Moscow's central park. And the surrounding residential districts are very expensive, I'd say some of the better ones in Moscow (this is close to the city center). It kind of bewilders me to hear him say that it's a "rough, shitty" part of Moscow.
Jon is fake. He pretends to be street for clout/followers. The people have totally bought in because he's good as an actor at playing that role. He's really a rich kid disconnected from avg people that's trying really hard to seem cool. On his podcast he brings mostly real people from the street on and so he gets people to buy into this fake persona he's created even more. It's easy to see he's fake when you have experience in what he tries to talk about.
Same. This must've been the 90s.
@@Aasinp it definitely sounds like the 90's, Gorky Park was reconstructed at some point in the late 2000's or something, so it wasn't always super nice, but the nearby districts (khamovniki, leninskiy prospekt, mosfilm, universitet) even back then were quite elite.
SwapBlogRU - That too struck me as odd. The whole story was like a perfect scripted woke hollywood victimization of a wamen. Honestly I dont buy it. Especially with everything going on right now
@@collybeans586 come to think of it - that story sounds weird to me as well. The streets surrounding Park Cultury are mostly pretty busy.
the way Jon Bernthal tells stories is absolutely captivating!
One of my favorite actors. But also an excellent interview.
Бывает)) Я в Москве сам заблудится могу, хотя живу больше 10 лет😁
This story really struck home. I had a similar experience in Brazil as he did in Russia. The way he explains about his cockiness and how it got him into trouble could not be more relatable. His story telling skills are in my opinion, very good.
what happened to you in brazil? i live here but in a small city so things like that dont really happen here
True re: the arts. I went on a first date with a Russian gal in Chicago that grew up in Siberia. I allowed her to pick the venue. She chose a winery, despite not being a drinker. She chose it because a world renowned Cellist was playing. Second date was to a museum.
even after experiencing such a terrible situation like that Jon still makes sure to make it clear he actually appreciates the culture and the people of the country that he was in at the time, you can tell he's really grateful for everything, way different from the majority of tourists/expats that go to other countries and start bitching about the most minor shit just because it's different from their home country, a lot of americans should learn from this guy
Even if he talked bad about the country it would be responsible. If i lived in a place where a women is brutally killed in streets i wouldn't think of it fondly.
@@seal3427 he left the scene without at least trying to call the cops? Ain’t that weird? What year is he describing? It’s not that wild in Moscow nowadays. Still wild, but not as wild as the guy describes. Also there is like 1 homicide per day in New York for example, so big cities probably have a higher rate of murders in general regardless of the country. But still states are much safer probably, wish to visit someday
@@besmart2350 In the 90s the cops in Russia were not exactly in charge, sure they would arrest people but it would be ordinary people, not guys that were connected because they knew if they arrested guy their families would be targeted.
My twin bro (American) and his friends (Russian) got chased by the mob in russia for filming a mobster toss someone in a river and stealing a passport. You see the mobster point directly at the camera and the other monsters start running toward them. Then the camera is bobbing up and down as my brother films while they run for safety. This was back around 1999/2000. I think it was St Petersburg.
Did they ever upload it somewhere?
Let's see it on RUclips
I was literally just thinking yesterday how awesome it would be to have Jon on JRE
I love this man in every production he has been in. He's so cool
One of my favorite actors hands down, you can tell his morals are in sync with some of his work, one badass dude.
This guy really is great I hope they bring him back as The Punisher
punisher never coming back saldy
@@Gunships. At this point, I hope they don´t bring it back. Rumors are that Daredevil is about to be ruined.
Hmmm sounds better than the United States
lets hope they bring him back after they bankrupt and we go all anti woke and cancel culture mode
Netflix Punisher cannot exist in Disney
This man is one of the greatest actors of our time , such a humble dude
Have you seen
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It's so funny that I farted 😔
Humble is not how I would describe him
@@scottf5791 People are so easily fooled. I don’t know if humans just don’t actually spend enough time with other humans or if their bullish-t gauge is broken but this guy gave SO many tells of his character and humility is definitely not there.
Bit of an over statement
you have a weird definition of humble? False humility is not the same thing. This dude came on this podcast and literally just tells fantastical stories where he is the action hero of them and you call that humble. Hahahaha.
I was to Russia twice. Once 600 miles east of Moscow in a small technical/science based town for 2.5 weeks and on another occassion to Moscow. I found people in the heartland to be friendly and more civilized than my Amerikkkan compatriots. I myself never saw violence or theft but I knew from the locals that it existed. Everyone I met was cordial. I even moved out of my designated range without permission. This is around summer, 2009. I was back in Moscow during the winter in 2010. I had no idea how cold things could get. I'm walking around in a NY Yankees cap and my head felt like it was going to pop off. You know how you get brain freeze from drinking icy beverages? That's what it felt like walking around Moscow at night. You need one of those furry russian trapper hats with the ear flaps: ushankas. I got some tickets to the Bolshoi, but couldn't afford ballet tickets, so I went to a Puccini Opera, La Boheme. The performers were not terrible, but they were all over the hill. The libretto is supposed to be about young lovers, not geriatrics. So I kind of dozed through it. Moscow wasn't as friendly as the small town I'd been in a few months earlier. I didn't really get a chance to hang with anyone. It was more like a rat race: everyone was too busy getting to wherever they were going. I stayed at a timeshare apartment in a good location. The previous occupants were noisy which upset the regular tenants and we were mistaken for them so there was a generous offering of those infamous Russian bi-polar meltdowns. Fortunately, there was no physical violence to complement it. I remember the roads being in reall shitty shape in both towns and there was a noticeable absence of air conditioning in taxis and hotel rooms. I've had better lodging in hostels than Moscow, and the rooms by the airport were expensive. Yeah, the Cyrillic will throw Westerners, but it's not as hard to learn as you might think and you can pick up the basics with a little preparation before your trip. You won't be anywhere near fluent or intermediate, though - Russian grammar is even more complex. But you'll be able to pronounce words and have a rudimentary understanding. I've had more trouble in Costa Rica than I did in Russia. Remember Con-di Rice? She held herself out as a Russia expert. Fact is she didn't know tit from twat about the Russian language. All she knew was how to lie glibly about everything.
Whenever I'm in a situation that I don't like or feel comfortable in,I just forget about everything going on around me & I get some Chinese food or comfort food, I feel like a loser or failure at first but then I realize afterwards I made the right decision after seeing how everything plays out,I think it's trusting your instincts over what everybody else is doing or thinks u should do.
Jon feels like a very down to earth guy, also what a crazy experience. All the eastern Europe sounds like a really interesting place to live because of the culture and history, but a the same time there is this dark side of corruption that seems like runs deep on so many levels
Yea . Except the difference is the west has great PR & hides their corruption and the East let’s you see it.
Like the West is any different at this point.
@@charlie1234500 it's just masqueraded as being free and the best
@@charlie1234500 yes there is still a very noticeable difference in how the law is enforced and overal bureacracy levels.
Even today when the west is very obviously corrupt.
Guess what? The dark side runs deep everywhere there are humans.
It seems like its much easier to be genuine when life has real life consequences for not taking life seriously. America on the other hand can afford to be delusional because we have people who are just as delusional, telling us that this is normal. It is only a matter of time before those consequences catch up to us.
They've already caught up to us. We've just not bled about it yet.
I think I know what you're on about..I've always felt that if life is truly difficult and challenging a person doesn't have the time nor inclination to indulge in needless identity politics. Being able to be that self-obsessed and self-important is a result of being too comfortable and having too much privilege. If you're just trying to survive, not step on the toes of anyone potentially dangerous, make sure you are able to eat that week you ain't gonna be naval gazing excessively about how you identify in any regard.
Russia especially seems like a no non-sense place with a lot of struggle, so very different from what many experiences in America. Then again, there is so much poverty, homelessness, and people who need help here as well. You'd think trying to help the less fortunate would take higher priority than all the BS that's currently trending but nah that would require real effort and caring about other people. It's easy to come up with made up issues and problems to bitch about on the tiktok. And before anyone comes for me (because this is the internet) yes I do put my action where my words are. I have volunteered with Durham Rescue Mission, Habitat for Humanity and the USO. Whenever I find myself feeling sorry for myself it's a hint to do something for someone else.
We do what we want 😂 Russia can enjoy being clapped by Ukraine. Bunch of nobodies
@@ChrisBlitzTV God bless you my dude/dudette
@@ChrisBlitzTV💯
What a great storyteller! Definitely underappreciated in Hollywood.
Love JB! He’s an incredible actor! He’s easy on the eyes too! ✨✨
I always told my wife that his character Shane in TWD was the most real out of all the group in the situation they were in(Apocalyptic). The way he acted and the the things he decided were spot on.
I agree! I have always said this. More so the way the show progressed I always said if Shane was there, this wouldn't have happened.
I couldn’t agree more with the both of you. I brought up the same things regarding Shane to friends and other fans of the show.
Amazing actor this guy is not fake like many actors guys legit.
Actually quite the opposite. Dude is like most rappers, pretending for clout. Jon was born rich af and has never been tough or street. He pretends to be so people like you will buy in
What if he's acting?
@@mrrooster4876 whats being rich got to do with not being tough? There are plenty of rich kids thats would slap seven shades of shit out of you.
Yea, you cannot fake and milk a “down to earty celebrity” act in temporary interviews.
@@mrrooster4876 hahaha who cares dude. When did he kiss your girls chest? You been trying to bury him in every comment thread like you know him personally. From peoples first hand accounts. Tons of them in the comments he sounds like a down to earth guy. Wtf does it matter he grew up with money? Every person on Instagram grew up poor and act like they have more money than they have this guy isn’t claiming to have grown up rough. Idgaf one way or the other. But the way you’re focused on burying him bothers the shit out of me
One thing he didn't mention is that Gorky Park is now an extremely expensive, clean, safe and sought after neighbourhood in Moscow
Putin, love him or hate him, really cleaned Russia up. Imagine turning a crime ridden, homeless, junkie infested hellhole in LA into something like Manhattan but with less crime and cleaner in about a decade
This was a great podcast and nothing but mad respect for this outstanding human
Every Russian I have met on my travels is extremely polite and well mannered. Good people.
It’s sucks our governments are trying to force us apart and make us think we want to kill each other unfortunately…
@@Thrashman-ye4cf Yeah, unfortunately fear makes money.
You're going to be called a russian bot in 3... 2...
I presume he was there in the 90s. Which by far was one of the darkest times there, that as consequence had a drop of average life expectancy for men by 6 years in just 3 years. That pictures the horror, desperation and brutality of the times Russian men had to go through every day. Scary experience but thankful for Jon's sharing and honesty.
The 90s was the best time it's ever been for Americans in Russia.
I was at a laundry mat on Sunset in Hollywood in 1984, I met a girl fresh from the Soviet Union, her first day here, she goes to a Ralph's and sees all the fruit, produce, and meat...she thought it was staged just for her because they were brainwashed into thinking Americans were starving due to massive food shortages, then she told me everyone has the same amount of possessions and if you dare miss a day of work, a black 4 door sedan pulls up...and you disappear
@@kevinwalsh4652 black 4 door sedan in the 80s? Wtf?? I think she's a little bit exaggerates :) it's not being even like that in the 30s
@@ethernalclassic3076 I can read people, she was for real, I've found foreigners arriving here are open books, not capable of embellishment, her point was thinking a Ralph's chock full of meats, fresh fruits and produce was stated just for her...being a victim of propaganda her whole life
OMFG I MISS YOU SHANE, Ive been waiting on this episode bro
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Jon Bernthal is one of the most magnetic actors, just endlessly fascinating and inspiring to listen to.
Man I love this guy. So great to hear both these guys in the same room.
Wonder if he met the machine back there
Jon Bernthal is literally in EVERYTHING these days.. very underrated actor!
This is why I always suggest that people travel outside the western hemisphere. The differences are amazing and very humbling.
Ah, the old days in Russia when you had to run for your life and finally get to subway and read some Tolstoy…
Jon Bernthal did a stunning job in the show American Gigolo as in all his roles, unfortunately Hollywood doesn't like actors who are too talented and too smart, it doesn't matter because we love him so much.
Ahem... Tom Cruise. He's all those things you mentioned
I love Bernthal. He's so eloquent and articulate and just a genuinely nice gentleman
Bernthal is awesome. Took a pic with him and the whole TWD cast that came (Rooker and Reedus included) the year before he got the Punisher role and I remember being super shy because I was 13 and meeting the stars of my favorite show. Jon was kind was wanted me to lose the nerves because they were just some guys. Made me put my hand on his shoulder and take a pic with him, gave me a fist bump and I said, man you'd make a good Punisher. Then a year later Netflix announced he'd been cast and I was dumbfounded
Most actors just act tough, Jon actually is.
…acting.
There I finished the sentence for you 👍
@@scottf5791 no bro, when he was a teenager he really went up against the russian mob and totally roundhouse kicked that dude through the windshield, then got a bj and 50bucks from the lady and everyone clapped. Its true, I was there and I clapped.
Very good podcast guest.
Joe nails it on the head with this one. Russia can be harsh but in 6 months it changed my life forever. Every day people will blow your mind with kindness and how giving they are as human beings.
Idk bruh ak47s for j walking is crazy 😂
Back in the 90-s Gorky Park was an area where a lot of bad stuff went down, despite it being the centre of Moscow. Now there’s a huge family/recreation park and this district is one of the most expensive ones in terms of real estate prices
Thank you for this. John spoke of this experience so eloquently. And when he was there it was a terrible time for Russia because of how the western world and the USA was destroying the country. Go there now and it is like a totally different place. People have no idea how wonderful and interesting the Russian people are. There is no greater home to culture on earth. I have seen John's work. But seeing his honesty I have gained a new appreciation for him.
Many Russians are okay, but they pick the worst leaders in history. Right now a brutal murder terrorist is running the country into the ground.
@@meditationsonthemount4135 Really? Did you hear anything what he said? Did you hear his description of where Russia was twenty years ago and where it is now? You call this running it into the ground? Just name calling. Obviously you have never been there. You should go there and see what a prosperous, vital, beautiful country this is. There is nothing running into the ground. Whether your looking at technology such as new space exploration. Or culture the leaders in literature and art. Or prosperity they have the fastest growing economy in that part of the world and the most powerful currency in the world. I have been there. As for a "terrorist murder" that's just more name calling with no evidence. And it shows ignorance of the actual facts. You are right about the Russian people though. People are just people anywhere you go.
yeah yeah blame the U.S. it's our fault they bend over for any dictator who walks in the door and can't run an economy not dependant on crime,,,
Dude, everyone can tell you're just spewing propaganda. The prosperity you're claiming is bullshit, and they were not being "destroyed by the west/USA"; that's just Russia's boilerplate scapegoat for whenever anything goes wrong.
@@Wellepay Dude? How can you tell its propaganda? Because you don't know anything about Russia? Why would I "spew propaganda?" I have been there and seen it with my own eyes. I have read a few books. I have talked to and made friends with people who have lived through this nightmare that was created by the west. What is your experience dude? Watch the BBC documentary series called "Trauma Zone" if you want to see it for yourself and you don't actually read. But I don't think you want to see the truth. That will give you all of the facts.
As for Scapegoating. You can see all of the facts. You don't have to go any further than USA politicians to see scapegoating. Let me ask you something if you are not some US government propagandist like the last guy who responded to me. When has Russian come all the way over the the USA to fuck with us? Huh? Never. Why is it always the USA going and fucking with everyone else? Why do our government jackals have to go around the world interfering with other countries continuously? Do you know how many military bases the US has around the world? Do you know how many coups and regime changes the USA has sponsored or initiated. No you don;t because you are clueless dude. But I will tell you over a thousand military base over 45 coups. Why is that? Thats not boilerplate or propaganda that's fact. Don't believe me. Watch a video or two by Jeffery Sachs Colombia University economist, he was there during the Bush and Clinton and Bush administrations. He will tell you.
We really need some context on years. Today, Park Kultury is a great area. Gorky Park is wonderful.
1999 when he was 23. I was there at the same time and about the same age as him then (according to Google I am a year older than him). Was wonderful then too, but also rough in many places. I still dine out on stories about the "Hungry Duck" bar, ha ha.
@@yrath5034 That makes sense. The 90s were hard times.
One of the most real and underrated actors today.
I was in Moscow before the wall came down and had to pay cash for a jaywalking ticket too. The gov't was corrupt but the people were amazing. My friend and I went outside the tourist zone with some people we met out eating dinner. The conditions were like a slum but the people were so nice and giving to us. It was scary taking the train back in to the hotel in the morning. We were in trouble the rest of the trip because the lady at the end of the hall reported we had not come back the night before.
Joe - please pass along this deeply needed app Share the Meal that helps kids!!
I've been a fan since the first time I saw him on the walking dead
I called it years ago when I first saw this guy. I thought he looked like a young Richard Gere and I thought it would be cool if they redid American Gigolo with him. I also think he is a great actor and will be an Academy Award winner one day, he is that good and he has amazing range. He seems super chill as well.
After watching punisher and daredevil,
He is in my top 20 list of actors and character they played.
In lived in Georgia 🇬🇪 the country, for a while since my husband is Georgian and many Russians and Ukrainians live there also. It is a humbling experience as an American to witness a second world country and the hospitality that can be shown as well as the other but i always witness more hospitality. I admire the ability to preserve through so many invasions and poverty and still roses in the arts, like you talk about Jon. They are incredibly bright and talented and should be an inspiration all. I do however love and greatly appreciate my own country and realise how lucky i am to live here and hope we can keep it the land of the free. It definitely was more helpful when i learned the Russian language more and the Cyrillic alphabet
russia is way different than georgia first of all, and your husband probably doesn't appreciate you learning russian as we, georgians dislike russia as a whole
@@porthmeus actually I’m learning Georgian as well and my husband also speaks Russian, Mingrelian, Ukranian and Kartuli naturally. His people are mostly Mingrelian who had to flee Abkhazia. I learn both Russian and Kartuli and also Ukranian as those are the majorities in Georgian at the moment and we conduct business there with his family business. So, before you sound off about a subject matter you know very little of, how about you ask a few questions politely first or not. I’m aware of the status in Georgia as i see the FUCK RUSSIA spray paint on the walls all over, it’s apparent and why but there is still commerces between the countries and i know good Russians as well as good Ukranian and good Georgians so before you spread your hate agenda on here with your blanket statements, do some research! Obviously i do not agree with Putins war, but that is not another excuse to hate a whole nationality of people. That is not what the works or any country needs! That’s what has helped to get us all into this mess to begin with
@@mckaughnbrown5969 there is "commerces" with usa and russia aswell, not just georgia and russia and that being said usa clearly is buying oil and such goods from russia and then reselling it to europe as russia has to sell it to usa for a cheaper price cause there are no consumers otherthan europe which cause of the war had to pull out of the deal, now usa is the gateway to get those needs and I and other georgians don't hate russia cause of just putin, in history COUNTLESS times russia has betrayed georgia in numerous of different ways for exact during king erekle one of the most famous kings of georgia, russia betrayed georgia and let persian troops outnumber and demolish our army while we were so called "prepared" for russians to come and help us and it obviously affected our troops morale and our strategy was way different, so that lead to us being defeated and not just that in most times russia was always using georgia for its own gains, never once did it help georgia if it didn't gain anything through it.
By his own accounts a True KNUCKLEHEAD. But he turned it ALL around! 👊🏻 Anything is POSSIBLE. It’s Starts w YOU
Jon was born rich and is pretending, he's not street at ALL
i HATE it when people write in BIG letters to get their MESSAGE across
@@zappthezapper33 I hate when people like you exist. Do us all a favor, bite and pull.
@@mrrooster4876 he said he's a knucklehead, not "street". Never heard Bernthal describe himself as street in any way. He just got in lots of fights as a kid and got in trouble a lot.
@@killdizzle if you actually listen to the entire podcast, he talks about how he is grateful about his family who had the means to get him out of trouble unlike some other kids who get in trouble. But, you know, it’s easier to hate.
Even though that thug was brutal he was nice enough to warn him instead of flat out killing him. Some inhuman SOB's don't warn, they just do it.
I'm sure it was self-interest, the dude didn't want a manhunt for the person who murdered a foreign national. This was probably organized crime, not some random insane junky with a gun who wouldn't think twice.
Especially in post-Soviet Union Moscow where it was legit the wild west. Bernthal is lucky he didn't get one between the eyes.
This though, wouldn't have happened with a cartel member or some hood gangster in the states. They are extremely brutal but also very understanding of what they are doing and why.
@@mikev8746 it's because they hate white people, but the Russian gangsters ARE white.
Exactly if that was the US, he would have been in the morgue that night.
Punisher stopping over at the Michigan honky tonk, one of the best episodes
Bumped into him years ago at JFK where I was working. He was flying out and asked me for directions to get coffee somewhere. It was the same year he got killed off TWD. We talked alittle and I said that it sucked he got killed off. He was like well its not all bad because I might have something big coming up. Of course he couldn't tell me but it ended up being Punisher. We talked for 10 mins as I ended up walking him to Starbucks. Fantastic guy and I feel an underrated actor.
In the USSR they at times really tried to push hight culture into society, and were worried about shallow American celebrity stuff have a negative effect.
And they were right. The story told here is one of an Americanised Russia besieged by American owned criminals.
This dude is a good role model for a lot of us.
Why because he is an actor ? Lol