Guilherme Oliveira random number generation. A good example in smite is crit chance, where you have a chance to get 5 crits in a row or none at all for 10 basic attacks. It’s basically luck/randomness, which isn’t exactly good when you want to play a skill-based game.
Hirez also reverted a price reduction on the oracle chalice (ward) from 300 back to 400 some time ago, stating the game felt "too safe". Now we all get free wards from the start.
I think the should just remove the oval from the one, and instead of random effects it should be like this. It should automatically cycle through the protection buff and move speed buff, and hitting an enemy corrupts the buff making it a silence or slow respectively.
I just think the shapes shouldn't be that random the fact that I can play a whole game and get the Y once and the L more than 75% of the time and the oval is trash lol
Lispy Queer the oval is actually very good depending on which effect it gives if it’s an oval silence then it is actually really good because you can pretty much trap someone if there in the middle and if you throw it in a team fight it covers allot of area and silence creates allot of disruption. The oval slow is also alright.
I like the oval the most, but it feels really bad right now because it doesn't hit exactly in front of Baba, as opposed to every other shape of the 1. Making it very easy to miss. Also, 15% on return hit is terrible, for how slow the Oval is, it should be rewarding if you manage to hit something more than once with it. I like the randomness aspect, at least in the 1, the problem to me is more than the effects aren't impactful at all. Even the silence field is just a small area with no teamfight usage. Maybe if they lasted 1 more second. And ofc, as Duke said, the passive meter is not visible in a teamfight. They can double the size of the "next shape" icon, even over the top of the house icon.
Yeah as I said in another post, this character seems to be designed to be only fun to play, in a game where players goes straight for the safer pick to get easy wins. You play her in pursue of having a fun game and get destroyed by tryharders in casual. How great fun.
I recently encountered a bug I wasn't aware of that became my new favourite; I'd ult and nothing would happen (same old same old) but then after aimlessly walking around in the cabin, I could fire the bolts FROM the cabin while controlling Baba Yaga. Definitely made for some pretty unpredictable kills.
I had something similar happen in the same game where my two bugged! I couldn't use my two, but I could fire all my bolts when in cabin, then when I popped out I got to fire a second round as baba yaga! It was a funny way to make up for the bugged two
Joe same for me until i ulted and had to hold down the fire button then spam the fire button. same thing with her potions, her potions kept switching from red blue then white but wouldn’t fire and i couldn’t even consume the potions
Define Reality yeah or make the “O” narrow like “0” and instead of it being a line drawn in a circle shape. It could feel the area of and “0” similar to Agni’s 2 to make the ability cover a zone to make some of the buffs more effectively acquired.
@@TheSageSenpai I don't think it'd be implemented that way due to the fact that it's ground AOE would differ too much from the rest of her shapes. And having a wide ground AOE might make that shape outright better than the rest overall, instead of having a situational niche like the rest do.
griffith did nothing wrong his meaning is you can have full attack items and still do no damage. I did book of Thoth, purple boots, divine ruin, warlocks, Charon coin, and soul reaver and was still hitting em with a wet pool noodle
griffith did nothing wrong he’s saying that some gods you can put only defense items on and they will still hurt more then a god that goes a full damage build.
I wish there was a way to remap her potion storing. It feels so bad on console and I've died because of it. Also is there a bug on her escape? I jumped into tower one game and I'm almost positive I wasn't facing the tower line.
So. Idk if its just cuz I'm just better on console but I've played her both on console and pc I've never had any problem with her potions on console in fact I'm like a billion times better with her on console then I am on pc. I also have never encountered the ultimate bug either yet. Perhaps the RNG gods just love me idk
“I don’t like having to look at the symbol between every team fight” seriously that the LEAST frustrating part of her if anything. You can use your peripheral vision to see or just quickly glance at it before you cast or before a fight, doesn’t take much effort at all to remember what symbol you have after quickly glancing
Agreed! Also I doubt it's worth waiting for the perfect potion that deals the most optimized dmg+slow and stuff. Just pop the potion on the anubis twice and watch his health fall by half. That's the fun of it lol
I wish they would remove her oval targeted and replace her protections and movement buffs with a disarm. That alone would make her significantly better.
i think they should combine effects in two versions, it's can be like the field gives movement speed AND protections at the same time or slows enemies AND silences. Or maybe combining the buff and debuff into ones, like speed/slow and def/silence, idk
I would argue that the speed buff often works similar to a he bo scroll (UNLESS IT'S THE FKN OVAL) but I agree that the protection buff is really kinda pointless cause no one's ever fighting within that tiny strip
@@webuser-webloser I was thinking that too but it might just be too strong. You'd have the He Bo 2 in a damaging ability (for slow+speed), or an actual Terra ult in an area.
I mean, apart from Incon who praises her support, every streamer i follow has said she's the worst god release in a long time and basically worthless in conquest.
honestly, after playing her so much these days (I have played around 35 games or more perhaps with her) I became pretty good with her and the randomness doesn't bother me anymore, like, you get used to it, and if they fix the bugs with her AND make everything about the ult faster she would be in a good position in my opinion, also the ult may require a bigger shield cuz holy shit you can get bursted just in the ult casting time
I completely agree I love her she's not broken but the ult needs some work honestly I'm a console player and I really don't understand why people don't like the oval and the twos hard to understand and learn at first but as you play more you realize what it to use it for
To go farther the oval isn't great it's not hard to hit you just have to put the time in to get use to it's timing I'm guessing a lot of the comments are people who have only played 1 or 2 games with her and didn't like it
Maybe make all her 1's projectiles a bit thicker and i agree the ults projectiles and fire rate need to be sped up but instead of a bigger shield maybe some mitigation aswell, on top of the current shield she already has
Idea for her 1: replace the O with a line that travels as far as the initial line of the L and Y, but then doubles back and travels the same distance past the initial casting point in the opposite direction. Also, replace the protection and movement speed buffs with a cripple and knock back/knock up. That way you won’t know how she is going to CC, but you know that she always will apply CC in an area. Idea for her 2: Just. Give. It. Charges. Making her use a consumable slot to store a potion gives her an immediate disadvantage over other gods who can use that slot for potions or wards, which she definitely doesn’t need a built in disadvantage to a skill whose effect is already decided by random chance. Idea for her 4: have the flames linger for a longer amount of time. This would increase both her damage potential and her zoning ability. Also, keep the amount of times she can throw her Witchfire at 4, but remove the delay between attacks and reduce the firing time. When she runs out of Witchfire to throw, have her leave the hut and lose the remaining shield and CC immunity. This way it leads to complex decision making. Do you want damage or do you want to escape? Do you save that last Witchfire bolt and guarantee your own safety, or do you think you can kill that ADC if you just land 1 more bolt on them?
I disagree with the passive meter complaint, its really not that out of the way and is not hard too look at in fights. You can also prime your 1 to see what it will be based off the shape/color it shows if you really dont want to take 100 ms to look
Sure but some people play on instacast, so they can't preview the ability and it would be awkward to ask them to change that. Other than that I completely agree that it's not hard at all to look at her passive and everyone should be able to do so quickly
To start I would say they need to speed up her animations (it takes a full second to whip out a potion from your pocket then another 2 for it to actual throw), give a small buff to her cabin healing (so she can play solo well), and not store her potions in a consumable slot (its awkward but also restricts item buying)
I’m confused why the oval is so hard to people, you just fire it at a a different angle, you turn to the right a bit since it starts the actual projectile from the right and you can hit a lot of people in a team fight. I 1v4 a team late game in conquest and almost insta kill 2 of them with one hit of the oval
this would be great on her, that or just remove the oval and replace it with a t. which there is code for because it happened to me in the PTR but only once. idk if it glitched and made a t instead of a y, but the t was great.
My issue is with baba yaga is that because of her 3 is scaling the best it wants to be played like this:throw the 1and2 jump right on the enemy with her 3 and then knockult, but rightnow almost in every gamemode if you do that people just turn on you easier due to slow cast timing, ult is easily juked and there is a bigger target
Everyone talks about how buggy and messed she is. But forgets the very simple point. This is the most complex god they have made. At a time when they all working from home and can't optimise. So I'd say for the time she came out pretty good
that's objectively false. The Morrigan is the most complex god they've ever made due to her literally braking games when she ults. She has to be constantly removed from use due to her ulting the game to death
@@fruitloopdingis That's not complex though in the way he means. That's mechanically difficult to keep bug-free. Her kit is extremely simple and barebones otherwise, she's just a magic based stun burst, a weaker version of pre-nerf Loki. Invisibility, ranged debuff, close range stun. Nothing special compared to other gods of her release time. Her ult is complex only because it requires you to know the kit of who you're turning into and knowing when to time that for maximum effect. It isn't that complex a gameplay mechanic to coop a double Ares ult or even a double Poseidon ult, for example. It's difficult for the first few times you play her, and then you very quickly pick up a short priority list of who you're going to be shifting into. Baba Yaga has complicated mechanics on 3/4 of her kit, and her passive is a mechanic all its own. Having to monitor what shape and effect your 1 will be, knowing the effect of each ingredient in her 2 and optimizing your usage of the mixes she makes, making sure you time the damage mitigation of her 3 to actually escape bad hits, and making the best use of her house's stacking passive. BY's problem rn is her damage and progression. That is complex mechanics. Morrigan is not mechanically complicated, not anymore compared to the gods we get these days, and she should have lost her "Hard" rating a long time ago. Her only saving grace was stealth, and stealth gods are no longer untouchable with mechanics like Heimdallr and Camazotz floating around.
1. Remove the oval or change it to a 'D' and reverse 'D' shape. 2. Her random effect in the 1 feels useless. Either increase area of effect or for how long it stays. 3. If her health shield in ult scales on health/health from items, it would feel more benificial to go this route. And a bonus suggestion: Add a lifesteal ingrediens to the 2. Overall nerf damge a bit and this would make her a more supportive mage with buff/debuff areas on the ground. Or more viable in solo.
I want to make a quick note on the warlocks thing, it's not warlocks ramps up to slow, it's that it's just a worse version of e-staff since they changed it. I don't know how they made the item worse but they did.
Idk why but I feel like I’m the only one that loves the randomness. Yeah sometimes it sucks because you could’ve used another shape. But for the most part the potion does around the same amount of damage unless you get 5 eyes. So I just use them the same for the most part and the effects are an added bonus
I completely agree. The 1 isn’t a big deal for me either. She’s fun and I’m a casual player, I’m satisfied with Baba Yaga. Plus the chaos of the RNG thematically makes a lot of sense, like her throwing together random stuff she has on hand to make a deadly potion. I like it.
She does really well with a poke build, shes not meant for burst shes meant for long sustained fights. Think thoth but more annoying and more debuff based instead of damage. Try soul gem, soul reaver, and e-staff, works wonders on her but sell soul gem late.
Her damage is bad for the god she is trying to be... if she is so slow and have a really weird rng skill cap, the player should be compensated with a decent dmg... im srr but that ult... i think its week
I completely disagree with potion on instant cast. I use instant cast for 99% of abilities in smite and I love the feel of the potion because of the swapping mechanic. I understand what you said but I just haven't had any bad experiences in that regard. The bugs however, are awful.
Baba Yaga is good u just have to be good at the game🤷🏾♂️ all she needs is a damage buff to her ult and the bug fixes but other then that it just comes down to u being good at the game which most people are not🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I want to talk about her 1 more: her 1 is a very good move during congested/cluttered fights and shines in the jungle and objective fights. I know it isnt exactly felt but it has helped out extremely and being able to make the ground you fight on change and not have it broadcast is kind of how I see they wanted it to turn out. The pathing of the ability is easy to remember since even at max cdr you have 6 seconds to look at your passive before you can fire it again. I feel her 1 is more based on how long you have played her, so you can say that it isnt really a problem but more of a learning curve. Her 2 is messy and her description of the 2 should be based on color as well since I cant tell which ingredient is what but that is also just a product of not playing her enough. Her ult needs a range buff. It feels like I should fire way farther than I can, and considering all she gets is a shield when she drops it on her and a knock up she cant even confirm a shot into, it needs some love or an added effect (maybe a built in slow or that the hut can still steal essence from nearby foes at an increased rate and it prioritizes healing?)
Baba yaga also doesn't do much damage which is really annoying, isn't she supposed to primarily be a mid god? Than how is she going to compete with other high damaging gods? I honestly feel she needs some bugs buffs
Maybe change the protection buff into a heal when you and your teamates walk over it and if you stand on it the heal its stronger? I know that hi-rez said she was 100% a mid laner but i hope that they dont change her to be just that. I actually really like her in solo and hybrid mages in general.
I agree totally. Here's a fix: keep the oval. Have two projectiles fire from left and right. Have them converge in the middle for double damage or some such. That way there is a reason for the 1 in 4 randomness of it.
oh Duke I dont know if you'll see this but If you hit awilix with baba ult while she is on suku then she dismounts not jumps suku just get stuck inside her
I think they should move the cc effects from her 1 to her 2 and reduce the travel time of her 2. Buff the damage of her 1 to compensate for its removed utility and nerf the damage of the 2 if necessary and maybe and some additional effects for hitting the same opponent with 2 potions. This would make her clear better, make storing a potion more intuitive and useful and make her cc easier to apply as it would no longer require enemies to stand in a specific place.
The ult should either give her protections like Hades' ult or damage mitigation like chacc's ult if they are not going to change the damage or the speed. With the oval shape, well, that's just something you gotta get used to, it's part of learning how to use a God and with her you just have to be aware of her passive at all times wich is not that hard. And the thing with her 2, yeah, I absolutely agree, pressing the ability again should not save the potion, that one is just awkward, you should only save it if you cancel it.
If they speed up the animations and make the 1 and 2 work like Wukong's 3, I am sure Yaga would do better. Hope they learn from this and make sure the Abyss god turns out a good release.
I have to say, the problem i have with haha is securing my kills. She has good damage with double potions and other stuff but her ult doesn't help secure the kills.
Honestly, Hirez needs to decide if she is meant to deal damage or dish out CC. If she's supposed to be damage, replace the 1's affects with stuff like a DoT, keeping the silence and the armor reduction. Just those three. If more CC based, the affects should last AT LEAST three times as long. That would be a great zoning tool. That 2 is odd, and can EASILY not take up a consumable slot, tbh. It should have something like you can choose to throw a potion, or drink it, healing her or something random, if you NEED it to be random still. That ult... it's slow, clunky, weak, and in general feels like a weaker version of Freya's ult where you can still get his and die in.
idea for her alt what if it was like Raijin's. Baba gets in to her hut and her ability keys tern in to different effects of her aoe. 1) could be damage pool 2) could be a silents pool 3) could be a slow pool 4) could be a fear pool pushing enemy's apart. they could use the passive meter act as ammo for the # of blasts she can make. i am curious how this sounds to people i think it would put her hut passive in to play more. her secant ability could store the potions around her head and save them there for future use.
XD you suggested something to Hi-Rez they are not going to listen to nobody their gems are overpriced most characters are not even GODS and this’ll be the 5th character in a row time? (I’m not sure really) like I’m glad they’re adding variety but every legend/myth characters in the game are but, there all either underwhelming and bad and Yaga just proves it her kit makes me feel like she’s a support not a mid just because she needs a teammate have the time her oval sucks her lines are amazing at wave clear that’s all her ult sucks cauldron jump basically is just like slapping someone with a feather XD she’s just bad and there’s not point to ask Hi-Rez for help since they don’t listen to the community as much as they should
I think Low-Rez made Baba Yaga have those weird abilities just so she is unique, but it doesn't feel like it connects at all to what Baba Yaga is(Oval targeter???) compared to Persephone where her whole thing revolved around an undead garden so Persephone's kit makes a lot of sense.
My full damage build for Yaga ( once you get use to her and this is for arena) shoes of the magi , chronos pendant, spear of desolation (or divine ruin if against healers), doom orb, soul reaver, and rod of tahuti. This gives you a lot of damage and gives you the movement speed you need to hit abilities and chase people down more easily while in the ultimate. My conquest build is relatively the same but slightly different to adapt to situations. I run mages blessings cause she stacks it right away and btw the hut gains stacks while it’s running around the map so keep that in mind. So mages blessing, shoes of focus, chronos pendant, doom orb, rod of tahuti, and a mantle of discord, the. Sell mages blessing for the spear of desolation or divine ruin and eventually get rid of the cool down boots and go soul reaver if you want to. And for relics it’s up to you and with both these builds I do around 50k damage
Ults way to slow and telegraphed like a bad souls boss, her 1 is janky and too random to be effective, 2 is still buggy, her 3 is usless because it can be Interpreted by coughing on her and her damage can be good depending on the build, but due to reasons above you'll barely get to late game especially if you cant get a kill or get focused by enemies jungle/carry. So I tried building a Auto attack build and it was mildly funny enough to entertain me for 30 minutes
I personally really enjoy Baba Yaga and this video came off as really whiney. I got her to Diamond in a week and she’s not hard to play and after her buff I think she’s in a good place. Every variation of her 1 starts off with a straight line, even the oval, it always goes from right to left so if you step once to the left you will hit an oval 1. The RNG in her kit makes her unique and unpredictable just like a real life witch which also makes her always fun to play because you never know what the next potion or 1 will generate. I use her ult as a chaser because of the extended range and if you use it for close combat, you won’t be as successful. Stop complaining about her and learn to play with RNG mechanics.
Ok but like she still sucks you understand that a game like this rng is not good when let’s say you where going to win a ranked game and you don’t get the right buff from baba then you lose the game unlike a Hercules who is straight forward or the moon god that I forgot the name too but he’s good and straight forward unlike baba and Hercules also is good because he is easy and not rng based the game was not built around rng like some games smite was built off of teammates
*shrugs* if you don't pay attention to the passives of the fire and just use your outline of the spells before she calls it. Shes actually really good. Sure... The special isn't meant to kill but to clear from far range you can see it benefitting you greatly. Warlock staff is still really good with Charon's coin and thoths book. Shes viable but you just really need to not care about her RNG. And if its the potions. Just store 1 and then yeet the other one after cooldown. So you have two potions to abuse with various effects. Oval does complicated but its still has an okay chance to hit especially those around the oval.
Just opinion but make her a guardian instead of mage giving her more natural defenses. Make the 1 so it not RNG but on rotation and on 2 give one of the options a chance to stun Edit: also maybe for the 2. Maybe you can press 2 even if it's on cooldown and as long as you have a potion stored it'll work as normal
They need to make the lines on the shapes a little wider so they hit more consistently and the effects are applied more often. They also need to remove the stupid 15 percent damage on the second hit of the ability. I think the potion throw is fine. Same with the cauldron jump other than it is bugged were it doesnt jump the full distance sometimes. The ult is really not bad it just needs a slight damage increase and if you run gem of isolation it makes the fire more effective and harder to run out of while making it easier for your team to chase. They really need to fix the bugs with the ult it is useless when you cast it and cant even throw the fire or you get glitched on cabrakan walls and thor walls.
Make her three knock people up and make it so you can blink while channeling it. Just speed up the animation and cast time of her two I think would be good enough. To throw two potions faster and finally make her ult faster with lessening the time between the fireballs.
I think she's perfectly fine with the rng part of the mind games is in neither not knowing what will happen next as for her damage sure she's no he bo with practically three ults but she's not slapping out zero damage
I feel like one of the effects on her 1 should have been a damage over time I think they should remove the protection effect and add a damage over time effect if your in the area that maybe also adds a little protection debuff as well if there in the dot area.
What if the buffs and debuffs last 1 second after enemies and allies pass through them with the buffs lasting 3 seconds and debuffs lasting 1-1.8 seconds
With the whole potion brewing ability (correct me if im wrong), isn't sol also like that? For one of sol's abilities, you have to click the ability button, then press the basic attack button to fire it.
Something that I don’t see a lot of people talk about but I also think her 1 should do tick damage. I think it would give her just a small boost to it be often I just don’t care and walk through it bc the silence and slow are so rare
The ult should have a scaling shield based of health because 100 - 420 is basically a hunter auto, and that would really encourage that hybrid build style.
I think that her kit and her passive would work better if her abilities helped her build up her passive meter like cucu. I’m sure that would make her much better than how she is now
4 seperate games yesterday i played and 3 of em i had someone pick baba yaga as their character just saying we got shat on every game cause shes useless basically hada run 2v3 or 4v5 because she literally dosent do enough to be considered a teammate
I think if they keep the oval they need to remove the gap. If protections and movement speed buff is removed maybe replace it with a d.o.t. or a disarm maybe even some kind of root just give her some kind of ailment that isnt normally seen on most characters
I feel like because of the bugs you're nitpicking every little thing, you can very easily look at the brightly colored passive meter telling you what your shape is. Chronos has been in the game forever and nobody complains about having to look at his passive to activate his 2, its just another thing to make the god more skillful (not that chronos is super difficult, but his 2 does have a learning curve) I think you just don't want to learn to use these abilities effectively, I haven't played much Baba Yaga but from what I've seen, yes her two is clunky, and she is buggy, and she needs work, but you're being critical to things that don't need it. I agree with what you are saying about how she doesn't fit into a role in conquest very well because she really doesn't. I think that she just isn't the type of god right now that is to be played fast, I've seen slower gameplays where they poke and then go for frags and it works great.
Look, just because for you personally it's fine, it doesn't mean it's fine for everyone. I don't particularly enjoy Chronos' passive either, but it's still a hell of a lot easier to see what's going on there are a quickly glance considering his whole passive is a massive clock. For Baba, the majority of space is taken up by the visuals of the hut which ironically don't fulfill any important function. Some aspects of some characters will always bother some people more than others and sometimes it can't be changed. In this case however it could be easily improved already by just changing the visuals of the passive so the ability shape takes up the majority of the space.
Her ult it's random when you're not able to cast while in the ult and if you're not able to cast during the ult from the 1st time ulting in the match then you will never be able to for the rest of the game. I'm normal cast type of player and on console so i dont have an issue with the brew although it confused me at first throwing a stored brew. They should add a health shield on baba yaga when you cast a 3 like they do with Heras ability, fix her ult, buff the damage on brew toss, make her brew cast faster and enable people to choose the type of cc they want from her ability passives by a toggle when you enter the fountain like they do with Achilles passive and add 1 setting to let the random happen or set to certain ones. Think that would be a balance and fix the issue people have with honestly.
I really enjoy baba yaga atm. Her damage seems on par with most mages from my time with her on conquest and the different shapes from her one feel really good when you hit with the second part. I really don't get what the problem with the oval is, if you just look slightly off centre then you hit full wave with is and also mages that have to stand close to wave. Just play with quick casting off and you'll be fine. Apart from her ult not firing sometimes she is super fun to play with good damage as long as you can aim.
I think removing the ult for stance switch mechanics would be better suited for her. Baba yaga would keep her uniqueness, but getting rid of the rng frustration in the process.
Besides the bugs I honestly think she’s a good god damage wise like after I got use to her delays and how fast her projectiles move with the 2 I just built movement speed damage to utilize her hit and get away with it and it’s good with the ult since you have doom orb active while you ult ppl so u can catch up to ppl and hit the ult unless they try to whiff it but other than that she’s pretty balanced it just her bugs. The one is fine but yeah the oval is pretty weird but with the oval I just try to get edge for damage but in my opinion if I’m in a fight I like the silence oval. Her 3 is fine since she’s a mage who’s suppose to die but I find it funny I can use it to escape a Cerberus ult but not use it to get away from certain things like Scylla can do but I get that since u get mitigation. Btw I’m a console player
Theres no reason to play her because theres other mages that are just better. Maybe if you wanna just play her for the laughs, but honestly shes like a C tier mage.
I still dont know why the slow debuff is the only one to remain for a bit after leaving Baba's 1. Cant they do that with all the other buffs? So you dont have to stay in the shape that most of the times [atleast so far I've seen] isnt happening or isnt the main objective, only because its on the way. The two I think would be better if you had two charges in it, able to switch between them by pressin the 2, rather than using up a space that could be a valuable ward or an actual consumable potion. And the ultimate should have its own HP just like how Heroes of the Storm do with one of The Lost Vikings ultimate, the viking boat having its own HP [relative to the Vikings arround it, this case could be Baba's total HP], but if its destroyed before it ends all Vikings inside lose a % of their HP + stun.
8/10 times I kept getting the damn Oval shape in Clash, that's when I decided she wasn't worth using plus her ult is slow which usually ends up killing me. She needs a rework asap, get rid of the damn Oval and make her ult faster overall.
i feel like she needs to have a slight speed boost in the hut. oval i like personally but i know all the problems it has. her ult projectile speed needs to be faster too, i like the heavier skill cap on her. She needs to lose the protection buff too, its so minor its pointless to even have it
You mentioned that console has it difficult for getting potions out This is kinda wrong as its very clear what you need to press to get your potion and it's in a position that makes it easy to do in the middle of a fight (for xbox no clue about others)
Personally I don't want her to be a burst mage. I would like her to be more like Hades and Zhong. Battlemage-ish. Remove the oval, and the speed buff on the ability. I would keep the protection buff to keep her in a bruiser role.
Team synergy is really hard to get in casuals when in 95% of games you have at least 1 person go 0-11-5, or a level 7 player, or somebody who doesn't want to play their picks designated role and doesn't say anything about it. All I'm saying is that maybe matchmaking has some issues.
Thank you! Everyone is whining about how her ult and the oval on her 1 but you just need to be skilful with her and predict your opponents movement. In the majority of my joust games I’ve done well with her. My build is Warlock Staff, Cooldown Boots (replaced by rod late game), Spear of Desolation/Divine, Soul Gem, Soul Reaver (or something useful for countering) and Staff of Myrdin to use your 1 twice or 2 three times.
I get some of the criticism, but I think she is one of the most fun gods to be released in a while. Also I think her rng is just part of her learning curve. But if it were to change maybe just have a set cycle of how the 1 comes out
I actually agree that she's still fun. In games that go well, her kit is absolutely hilarious and can be very satisfying. But the experience is too often soured by her downsides imo. And learning curve is one thing, but poor visual clarity (such as the useless hut in the passive forcing the important info to be smaller) simply isn't necessary when it can easily be avoided.
Let's be real tho, they're totally going to leave her damage numbers busted when they finally make her usable, and hoo boy is she going to be cancerous when that happens.
Maybe I missed it when he discussed his alt, but did he say damage? Cause I’m pretty sure a wet paper towel does more than her alt. The alt is pitiful and in my eyes by far her biggest problem.
The Multiple Levels of RNG on top of her RNG for her first 2 abilities is just wow. It Makes her so inconsistent. Who thought this was a good idea? 🤦 Even when you're doing particularly well as her enemies can get away most of the time because of her lack of lock down, slow firing speed on everything but her 1, bad luck on getting what you need to pop out for her 1 & 2, and her Ult essentially firing pillows.
If they remove the oval massively buff the 2 but dont make it storable in the consumeable slot and buff her ult a little bit with more of a shield and maybe more damage she would be fine dont know how this got through pts to be honest
When you release a god that makes the players think: "actually if I dont ult I´ll be able to kill".
That´s when you know something went wrong
Daniel Fraiz lmao
@@Silent-ig9kb tfw you ult and it won't let you throw the god damn fireballs.... smh
You can cancle her ult actually with right clicking, if i am not wrong. So.. just be smart :)
Szuna Loneheart yeah same, I use it to get a quick shield and a knockback in scary situations and then cancel it and use my 3 to get away
Yet Persophone one of the recent gods can ult and kill you across the map... while she's dead.
Didnt hirez agree rng was bad when they removed crit passives on various characters?
what's rng?
@@guilhermeoliveira2048 random number generation
Guilherme Oliveira random number generation. A good example in smite is crit chance, where you have a chance to get 5 crits in a row or none at all for 10 basic attacks. It’s basically luck/randomness, which isn’t exactly good when you want to play a skill-based game.
Thats something i also thought. They remove randomness to release a random god
Hirez also reverted a price reduction on the oracle chalice (ward) from 300 back to 400 some time ago, stating the game felt "too safe". Now we all get free wards from the start.
My baba yaga support will haunt you Duke. I am coming for you!
I think the should just remove the oval from the one, and instead of random effects it should be like this.
It should automatically cycle through the protection buff and move speed buff, and hitting an enemy corrupts the buff making it a silence or slow respectively.
That would be unclear because of the visuals
Interesting, but possibly too strong. Not sure. I definitely like it better than the current iteration though.
I just think the shapes shouldn't be that random the fact that I can play a whole game and get the Y once and the L more than 75% of the time and the oval is trash lol
Lispy Queer the oval is actually very good depending on which effect it gives if it’s an oval silence then it is actually really good because you can pretty much trap someone if there in the middle and if you throw it in a team fight it covers allot of area and silence creates allot of disruption. The oval slow is also alright.
I like the oval the most, but it feels really bad right now because it doesn't hit exactly in front of Baba, as opposed to every other shape of the 1. Making it very easy to miss.
Also, 15% on return hit is terrible, for how slow the Oval is, it should be rewarding if you manage to hit something more than once with it.
I like the randomness aspect, at least in the 1, the problem to me is more than the effects aren't impactful at all. Even the silence field is just a small area with no teamfight usage. Maybe if they lasted 1 more second. And ofc, as Duke said, the passive meter is not visible in a teamfight. They can double the size of the "next shape" icon, even over the top of the house icon.
The only thing I like about Baba Yaga is her design.
I hate that too
When Gilgamesh says so, its truth! na jk she really looks alright, her house is the coolest. but well overall eh
Agreed
It wouldve been better if the house just fights.
Yeah as I said in another post, this character seems to be designed to be only fun to play, in a game where players goes straight for the safer pick to get easy wins. You play her in pursue of having a fun game and get destroyed by tryharders in casual. How great fun.
I recently encountered a bug I wasn't aware of that became my new favourite; I'd ult and nothing would happen (same old same old) but then after aimlessly walking around in the cabin, I could fire the bolts FROM the cabin while controlling Baba Yaga. Definitely made for some pretty unpredictable kills.
Now... THAT is kinda interesting xD
I had something similar happen in the same game where my two bugged! I couldn't use my two, but I could fire all my bolts when in cabin, then when I popped out I got to fire a second round as baba yaga! It was a funny way to make up for the bugged two
I had that bug happen to me 2 games in a row
Joe same for me until i ulted and had to hold down the fire button then spam the fire button. same thing with her potions, her potions kept switching from red blue then white but wouldn’t fire and i couldn’t even consume the potions
You know whats fun? Coming out of a bugged ult and not being able to fire any abilities and only being able to use basic attacks :)
"I don't like looking at the symbols."
chronos mains "haha yeah"
I bet Hi-Rez really likes the fact that the 1 can Spell out “Y-O-L-O”. And that makes me think they don’t want to remove the “O”. Sad really
They could just make the O rectangular (narrow), so that way it would at least be more precise to aim. []
Define Reality yeah or make the “O” narrow like “0” and instead of it being a line drawn in a circle shape. It could feel the area of and “0” similar to Agni’s 2 to make the ability cover a zone to make some of the buffs more effectively acquired.
@@TheSageSenpai
I don't think it'd be implemented that way due to the fact that it's ground AOE would differ too much from the rest of her shapes. And having a wide ground AOE might make that shape outright better than the rest overall, instead of having a situational niche like the rest do.
that's the problem with her, you don't only live once you live on 15 different occasions throughout the game, because you died the other 14.
omg that sounds 100% like a Low-Rez move. I bet you're right :D
When a god does less dmg than another mage going full tank as a glass cannon you know there is a problem
griffith did nothing wrong his meaning is you can have full attack items and still do no damage. I did book of Thoth, purple boots, divine ruin, warlocks, Charon coin, and soul reaver and was still hitting em with a wet pool noodle
Where as zhong can go for only 2 damage items and still hit harder
griffith did nothing wrong he’s saying that some gods you can put only defense items on and they will still hurt more then a god that goes a full damage build.
FUN FACT: Hisoka's bungee gum has properties of both rubber and gum
You have a sheep pfp therefore anything you say is invalid.
A fellow HxH fan I see
@@rozkie first comes rock
Love how your ult didn't work right as the video ended lol. Nice
I wish there was a way to remap her potion storing. It feels so bad on console and I've died because of it.
Also is there a bug on her escape? I jumped into tower one game and I'm almost positive I wasn't facing the tower line.
Haven't heard of that bug before, but that might be related to lag, maybe
So. Idk if its just cuz I'm just better on console but I've played her both on console and pc I've never had any problem with her potions on console in fact I'm like a billion times better with her on console then I am on pc. I also have never encountered the ultimate bug either yet. Perhaps the RNG gods just love me idk
Theres a bug with her 3 but its rare you get stuck in your cauldron and cant yae abilities all game
@@MrMishaPanda that not a bug with the 2 that a bug do to lag
@@sixsam154 thats not lag... lag doesnt make you a cauldron the whole game
“I don’t like having to look at the symbol between every team fight” seriously that the LEAST frustrating part of her if anything. You can use your peripheral vision to see or just quickly glance at it before you cast or before a fight, doesn’t take much effort at all to remember what symbol you have after quickly glancing
Agreed! Also I doubt it's worth waiting for the perfect potion that deals the most optimized dmg+slow and stuff. Just pop the potion on the anubis twice and watch his health fall by half. That's the fun of it lol
Duke sloth like a little girl lol yoga is bad but really that’s a problem for him 😂😂
*laughs in Chronos*
I wish they would remove her oval targeted and replace her protections and movement buffs with a disarm. That alone would make her significantly better.
i think they should combine effects in two versions, it's can be like the field gives movement speed AND protections at the same time or slows enemies AND silences. Or maybe combining the buff and debuff into ones, like speed/slow and def/silence, idk
I like the oval one but I agree that the disarm would help but the speed buff has helped me alot but the protections don't feel like they do anything.
I would argue that the speed buff often works similar to a he bo scroll (UNLESS IT'S THE FKN OVAL) but I agree that the protection buff is really kinda pointless cause no one's ever fighting within that tiny strip
@@webuser-webloser I was thinking that too but it might just be too strong.
You'd have the He Bo 2 in a damaging ability (for slow+speed), or an actual Terra ult in an area.
A disarm would be amazing on her, particularly if she’s getting dove on by an AA assassin
Thank you for talking about this! I thought I was alone in thinking she wasn’t the normal OP god release
I mean, apart from Incon who praises her support, every streamer i follow has said she's the worst god release in a long time and basically worthless in conquest.
Zefo No I only watch duke and a few other creators. My friends are the main supporters who praise her arena ability. Guess I need new friends
I love how he bashes how bad the god is, then proceeds to show a video of him destroying with the god xD.
I was absolutely sure he was playing against bots, then I noticed the names, and now I'm confused. 7:05
Did I just see Fenrir trying to bite Argus with his ult.... 7:05
Big jaws
He's biting more than he can chew
honestly, after playing her so much these days (I have played around 35 games or more perhaps with her) I became pretty good with her and the randomness doesn't bother me anymore, like, you get used to it, and if they fix the bugs with her AND make everything about the ult faster she would be in a good position in my opinion, also the ult may require a bigger shield cuz holy shit you can get bursted just in the ult casting time
Nick I like her two but your right you ult and the entire Enemy team it like giant house fire all your ults at once and I’m like oh no
I completely agree I love her she's not broken but the ult needs some work honestly I'm a console player and I really don't understand why people don't like the oval and the twos hard to understand and learn at first but as you play more you realize what it to use it for
To go farther the oval isn't great it's not hard to hit you just have to put the time in to get use to it's timing I'm guessing a lot of the comments are people who have only played 1 or 2 games with her and didn't like it
And also I understand this video is mainly about playing on pc but on a controller her controls are very comfortable for me
Maybe make all her 1's projectiles a bit thicker and i agree the ults projectiles and fire rate need to be sped up but instead of a bigger shield maybe some mitigation aswell, on top of the current shield she already has
Idea for her 1: replace the O with a line that travels as far as the initial line of the L and Y, but then doubles back and travels the same distance past the initial casting point in the opposite direction. Also, replace the protection and movement speed buffs with a cripple and knock back/knock up. That way you won’t know how she is going to CC, but you know that she always will apply CC in an area.
Idea for her 2: Just. Give. It. Charges. Making her use a consumable slot to store a potion gives her an immediate disadvantage over other gods who can use that slot for potions or wards, which she definitely doesn’t need a built in disadvantage to a skill whose effect is already decided by random chance.
Idea for her 4: have the flames linger for a longer amount of time. This would increase both her damage potential and her zoning ability. Also, keep the amount of times she can throw her Witchfire at 4, but remove the delay between attacks and reduce the firing time. When she runs out of Witchfire to throw, have her leave the hut and lose the remaining shield and CC immunity. This way it leads to complex decision making. Do you want damage or do you want to escape? Do you save that last Witchfire bolt and guarantee your own safety, or do you think you can kill that ADC if you just land 1 more bolt on them?
I disagree with the passive meter complaint, its really not that out of the way and is not hard too look at in fights. You can also prime your 1 to see what it will be based off the shape/color it shows if you really dont want to take 100 ms to look
Sure but some people play on instacast, so they can't preview the ability and it would be awkward to ask them to change that. Other than that I completely agree that it's not hard at all to look at her passive and everyone should be able to do so quickly
To start I would say they need to speed up her animations (it takes a full second to whip out a potion from your pocket then another 2 for it to actual throw), give a small buff to her cabin healing (so she can play solo well), and not store her potions in a consumable slot (its awkward but also restricts item buying)
I’m confused why the oval is so hard to people, you just fire it at a a different angle, you turn to the right a bit since it starts the actual projectile from the right and you can hit a lot of people in a team fight. I 1v4 a team late game in conquest and almost insta kill 2 of them with one hit of the oval
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Exactly, If you turn like 15° to like the left or the right it basically just becomes a slightly curved line, the oval is fine people.
And here I am being an a-hole for telling my teammate in conquest that he’s not bad, the god is just a awful character
I want bhima from bakasuras lore to be a playable character, the man who killed him
All 5 of the pandavas are pretty cool tbh
"What went wrong with Baba Yaga?"
Everything. Literally everything, lmao.
The oval should of had a line going through it that’s as long as the other line shapes
this would be great on her, that or just remove the oval and replace it with a t. which there is code for because it happened to me in the PTR but only once. idk if it glitched and made a t instead of a y, but the t was great.
Something like Kali 2 (even if it isn't moveable) would be cool :)
Yeah if it like went straight then diverged into two curves coming back or something similar that could be dope
My issue is with baba yaga is that because of her 3 is scaling the best it wants to be played like this:throw the 1and2 jump right on the enemy with her 3 and then knockult, but rightnow almost in every gamemode if you do that people just turn on you easier due to slow cast timing, ult is easily juked and there is a bigger target
Hate how long it takes her to get into her ult. Feels like forever, and combined with the slow projectile they have so much time to just walk away.
Everyone talks about how buggy and messed she is. But forgets the very simple point.
This is the most complex god they have made. At a time when they all working from home and can't optimise. So I'd say for the time she came out pretty good
Sure, but just because it was the best they could do in that time doesn't mean people have to like it.
@@blazeroblox56 works both ways tho. People need to take it in consideration when looking at how she turned out
What's complex about it
that's objectively false. The Morrigan is the most complex god they've ever made due to her literally braking games when she ults. She has to be constantly removed from use due to her ulting the game to death
@@fruitloopdingis That's not complex though in the way he means. That's mechanically difficult to keep bug-free.
Her kit is extremely simple and barebones otherwise, she's just a magic based stun burst, a weaker version of pre-nerf Loki. Invisibility, ranged debuff, close range stun. Nothing special compared to other gods of her release time.
Her ult is complex only because it requires you to know the kit of who you're turning into and knowing when to time that for maximum effect. It isn't that complex a gameplay mechanic to coop a double Ares ult or even a double Poseidon ult, for example. It's difficult for the first few times you play her, and then you very quickly pick up a short priority list of who you're going to be shifting into.
Baba Yaga has complicated mechanics on 3/4 of her kit, and her passive is a mechanic all its own. Having to monitor what shape and effect your 1 will be, knowing the effect of each ingredient in her 2 and optimizing your usage of the mixes she makes, making sure you time the damage mitigation of her 3 to actually escape bad hits, and making the best use of her house's stacking passive. BY's problem rn is her damage and progression.
That is complex mechanics. Morrigan is not mechanically complicated, not anymore compared to the gods we get these days, and she should have lost her "Hard" rating a long time ago. Her only saving grace was stealth, and stealth gods are no longer untouchable with mechanics like Heimdallr and Camazotz floating around.
1. Remove the oval or change it to a 'D' and reverse 'D' shape.
2. Her random effect in the 1 feels useless. Either increase area of effect or for how long it stays.
3. If her health shield in ult scales on health/health from items, it would feel more benificial to go this route.
And a bonus suggestion: Add a lifesteal ingrediens to the 2.
Overall nerf damge a bit and this would make her a more supportive mage with buff/debuff areas on the ground. Or more viable in solo.
Honestly, I love the oval, especially the silence oval. I find it easy to hit. People live to juke, not with an oval they dont.
I want to make a quick note on the warlocks thing, it's not warlocks ramps up to slow, it's that it's just a worse version of e-staff since they changed it. I don't know how they made the item worse but they did.
Idk why but I feel like I’m the only one that loves the randomness. Yeah sometimes it sucks because you could’ve used another shape. But for the most part the potion does around the same amount of damage unless you get 5 eyes. So I just use them the same for the most part and the effects are an added bonus
I completely agree. The 1 isn’t a big deal for me either. She’s fun and I’m a casual player, I’m satisfied with Baba Yaga. Plus the chaos of the RNG thematically makes a lot of sense, like her throwing together random stuff she has on hand to make a deadly potion. I like it.
Am I the only one who feels her damage is underwhelmingly low...?
Compared to other mages you're absolutely right. She feels weak, and slow.
Her damage is fine, but her abilities are slow.
She can store a potion for free when not in lane to get 4 damage abilities.
@@romdog1818 her damage is awful, her escape is her most damaging ability
She does really well with a poke build, shes not meant for burst shes meant for long sustained fights. Think thoth but more annoying and more debuff based instead of damage. Try soul gem, soul reaver, and e-staff, works wonders on her but sell soul gem late.
Her damage is bad for the god she is trying to be... if she is so slow and have a really weird rng skill cap, the player should be compensated with a decent dmg... im srr but that ult... i think its week
Am I the only person who loves playing her. The only problem is the ult not firing all the time. She’s not soooo bad.
Ahhh thank you for making this video
Her randomness in her 1 could be more like 72 transformations where aiming down or up could change the effect of the path at least.
I love this idea. The issue is it’s not really rng and hi Rez wants her to be more rng for some ungodly reason.
I completely disagree with potion on instant cast. I use instant cast for 99% of abilities in smite and I love the feel of the potion because of the swapping mechanic. I understand what you said but I just haven't had any bad experiences in that regard. The bugs however, are awful.
Baba Yaga is good u just have to be good at the game🤷🏾♂️ all she needs is a damage buff to her ult and the bug fixes but other then that it just comes down to u being good at the game which most people are not🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I agree, it’s unbelievable how people just want to play easy characters to win. Once a character that needs decent skill comes out everyone whines.
If it takes more than 2 braincells to play the Smite community will complain.
I want to talk about her 1 more: her 1 is a very good move during congested/cluttered fights and shines in the jungle and objective fights. I know it isnt exactly felt but it has helped out extremely and being able to make the ground you fight on change and not have it broadcast is kind of how I see they wanted it to turn out. The pathing of the ability is easy to remember since even at max cdr you have 6 seconds to look at your passive before you can fire it again. I feel her 1 is more based on how long you have played her, so you can say that it isnt really a problem but more of a learning curve.
Her 2 is messy and her description of the 2 should be based on color as well since I cant tell which ingredient is what but that is also just a product of not playing her enough.
Her ult needs a range buff. It feels like I should fire way farther than I can, and considering all she gets is a shield when she drops it on her and a knock up she cant even confirm a shot into, it needs some love or an added effect (maybe a built in slow or that the hut can still steal essence from nearby foes at an increased rate and it prioritizes healing?)
Also, speeding up on her ult shots animation would make her (along with the range imcrease u suggested) have a decently good ult
I go into ult and just get shredded my crit doesn’t feel good against hunters I litterally just don’t use it
Baba yaga also doesn't do much damage which is really annoying, isn't she supposed to primarily be a mid god? Than how is she going to compete with other high damaging gods? I honestly feel she needs some bugs buffs
Maybe change the protection buff into a heal when you and your teamates walk over it and if you stand on it the heal its stronger? I know that hi-rez said she was 100% a mid laner but i hope that they dont change her to be just that. I actually really like her in solo and hybrid mages in general.
I agree totally. Here's a fix: keep the oval. Have two projectiles fire from left and right. Have them converge in the middle for double damage or some such. That way there is a reason for the 1 in 4 randomness of it.
I agree. A narrow rectangle with distinct angles (like her other shapes). Have the 2 projectiles converge out in the middle. []
oh Duke I dont know if you'll see this but If you hit awilix with baba ult while she is on suku then she dismounts not jumps suku just get stuck inside her
When I saw this god I was like she is a troll god. Like hey I feel like pissing off my team and losing.
Yep.
Joseph Tiller especially when people insta lock her and play her either Support or jungle.
I think they should move the cc effects from her 1 to her 2 and reduce the travel time of her 2. Buff the damage of her 1 to compensate for its removed utility and nerf the damage of the 2 if necessary and maybe and some additional effects for hitting the same opponent with 2 potions. This would make her clear better, make storing a potion more intuitive and useful and make her cc easier to apply as it would no longer require enemies to stand in a specific place.
The ult should either give her protections like Hades' ult or damage mitigation like chacc's ult if they are not going to change the damage or the speed.
With the oval shape, well, that's just something you gotta get used to, it's part of learning how to use a God and with her you just have to be aware of her passive at all times wich is not that hard.
And the thing with her 2, yeah, I absolutely agree, pressing the ability again should not save the potion, that one is just awkward, you should only save it if you cancel it.
12:20 I wasnt fully paying attention, so when he changed from one game to another I though Baba bugged and lost an entire item for no reason.
If they speed up the animations and make the 1 and 2 work like Wukong's 3, I am sure Yaga would do better. Hope they learn from this and make sure the Abyss god turns out a good release.
I have to say, the problem i have with haha is securing my kills. She has good damage with double potions and other stuff but her ult doesn't help secure the kills.
I never thought about console and the 2 wtf that's insanely clunky. Imagine having to press left trigger and another button to use an ability oof
I had problems with that at the beginning not gonna lie
I have to hold the left stick clicked down and then press A or X, depending on the slot. I hate it
Honestly, Hirez needs to decide if she is meant to deal damage or dish out CC. If she's supposed to be damage, replace the 1's affects with stuff like a DoT, keeping the silence and the armor reduction. Just those three. If more CC based, the affects should last AT LEAST three times as long. That would be a great zoning tool.
That 2 is odd, and can EASILY not take up a consumable slot, tbh. It should have something like you can choose to throw a potion, or drink it, healing her or something random, if you NEED it to be random still.
That ult... it's slow, clunky, weak, and in general feels like a weaker version of Freya's ult where you can still get his and die in.
idea for her alt what if it was like Raijin's. Baba gets in to her hut and her ability keys tern in to different effects of her aoe. 1) could be damage pool 2) could be a silents pool 3) could be a slow pool 4) could be a fear pool pushing enemy's apart. they could use the passive meter act as ammo for the # of blasts she can make. i am curious how this sounds to people i think it would put her hut passive in to play more. her secant ability could store the potions around her head and save them there for future use.
XD you suggested something to Hi-Rez they are not going to listen to nobody their gems are overpriced most characters are not even GODS and this’ll be the 5th character in a row time? (I’m not sure really) like I’m glad they’re adding variety but every legend/myth characters in the game are but, there all either underwhelming and bad and Yaga just proves it her kit makes me feel like she’s a support not a mid just because she needs a teammate have the time her oval sucks her lines are amazing at wave clear that’s all her ult sucks cauldron jump basically is just like slapping someone with a feather XD she’s just bad and there’s not point to ask Hi-Rez for help since they don’t listen to the community as much as they should
I think Low-Rez made Baba Yaga have those weird abilities just so she is unique, but it doesn't feel like it connects at all to what Baba Yaga is(Oval targeter???) compared to Persephone where her whole thing revolved around an undead garden so Persephone's kit makes a lot of sense.
My full damage build for Yaga ( once you get use to her and this is for arena) shoes of the magi , chronos pendant, spear of desolation (or divine ruin if against healers), doom orb, soul reaver, and rod of tahuti. This gives you a lot of damage and gives you the movement speed you need to hit abilities and chase people down more easily while in the ultimate. My conquest build is relatively the same but slightly different to adapt to situations. I run mages blessings cause she stacks it right away and btw the hut gains stacks while it’s running around the map so keep that in mind. So mages blessing, shoes of focus, chronos pendant, doom orb, rod of tahuti, and a mantle of discord, the. Sell mages blessing for the spear of desolation or divine ruin and eventually get rid of the cool down boots and go soul reaver if you want to. And for relics it’s up to you and with both these builds I do around 50k damage
I agree with lots of this. I think her 3 is terrible though. It’s so easy to cancel making her easily able to be picked off with no escape.
Ults way to slow and telegraphed like a bad souls boss, her 1 is janky and too random to be effective, 2 is still buggy, her 3 is usless because it can be Interpreted by coughing on her and her damage can be good depending on the build, but due to reasons above you'll barely get to late game especially if you cant get a kill or get focused by enemies jungle/carry.
So I tried building a Auto attack build and it was mildly funny enough to entertain me for 30 minutes
I personally really enjoy Baba Yaga and this video came off as really whiney. I got her to Diamond in a week and she’s not hard to play and after her buff I think she’s in a good place. Every variation of her 1 starts off with a straight line, even the oval, it always goes from right to left so if you step once to the left you will hit an oval 1. The RNG in her kit makes her unique and unpredictable just like a real life witch which also makes her always fun to play because you never know what the next potion or 1 will generate. I use her ult as a chaser because of the extended range and if you use it for close combat, you won’t be as successful. Stop complaining about her and learn to play with RNG mechanics.
Ok but like she still sucks you understand that a game like this rng is not good when let’s say you where going to win a ranked game and you don’t get the right buff from baba then you lose the game unlike a Hercules who is straight forward or the moon god that I forgot the name too but he’s good and straight forward unlike baba and Hercules also is good because he is easy and not rng based the game was not built around rng like some games smite was built off of teammates
Btw witch’s arnt real but what would you know
*shrugs* if you don't pay attention to the passives of the fire and just use your outline of the spells before she calls it. Shes actually really good. Sure... The special isn't meant to kill but to clear from far range you can see it benefitting you greatly. Warlock staff is still really good with Charon's coin and thoths book. Shes viable but you just really need to not care about her RNG. And if its the potions. Just store 1 and then yeet the other one after cooldown. So you have two potions to abuse with various effects. Oval does complicated but its still has an okay chance to hit especially those around the oval.
Just opinion but make her a guardian instead of mage giving her more natural defenses. Make the 1 so it not RNG but on rotation and on 2 give one of the options a chance to stun
Edit: also maybe for the 2. Maybe you can press 2 even if it's on cooldown and as long as you have a potion stored it'll work as normal
They need to make the lines on the shapes a little wider so they hit more consistently and the effects are applied more often. They also need to remove the stupid 15 percent damage on the second hit of the ability. I think the potion throw is fine. Same with the cauldron jump other than it is bugged were it doesnt jump the full distance sometimes. The ult is really not bad it just needs a slight damage increase and if you run gem of isolation it makes the fire more effective and harder to run out of while making it easier for your team to chase. They really need to fix the bugs with the ult it is useless when you cast it and cant even throw the fire or you get glitched on cabrakan walls and thor walls.
Make her three knock people up and make it so you can blink while channeling it. Just speed up the animation and cast time of her two I think would be good enough. To throw two potions faster and finally make her ult faster with lessening the time between the fireballs.
I think she's perfectly fine with the rng part of the mind games is in neither not knowing what will happen next as for her damage sure she's no he bo with practically three ults but she's not slapping out zero damage
i agree like it just takes practice and iron out some bugs but i do want them to replace protection buff from 1
@@MrSmilykid honestly the protection buff is fuck all useless. it gives you like NO buff. its so minor its not even worth it
I feel like one of the effects on her 1 should have been a damage over time I think they should remove the protection effect and add a damage over time effect if your in the area that maybe also adds a little protection debuff as well if there in the dot area.
What if the buffs and debuffs last 1 second after enemies and allies pass through them with the buffs lasting 3 seconds and debuffs lasting 1-1.8 seconds
With the whole potion brewing ability (correct me if im wrong), isn't sol also like that? For one of sol's abilities, you have to click the ability button, then press the basic attack button to fire it.
Yeah but its because its really more of a basic attack enhancer rather than an actual ability
you can simply press the ability twice i'm pretty sure
Something that I don’t see a lot of people talk about but I also think her 1 should do tick damage. I think it would give her just a small boost to it be often I just don’t care and walk through it bc the silence and slow are so rare
The ult should have a scaling shield based of health because 100 - 420 is basically a hunter auto, and that would really encourage that hybrid build style.
I think that her kit and her passive would work better if her abilities helped her build up her passive meter like cucu. I’m sure that would make her much better than how she is now
4 seperate games yesterday i played and 3 of em i had someone pick baba yaga as their character just saying we got shat on every game cause shes useless basically hada run 2v3 or 4v5 because she literally dosent do enough to be considered a teammate
You're right she does suck but if you use your basic attack after you initiate you're 2 and your ultimate it works a lot quicker
I think if they keep the oval they need to remove the gap. If protections and movement speed buff is removed maybe replace it with a d.o.t. or a disarm maybe even some kind of root just give her some kind of ailment that isnt normally seen on most characters
The area of effect (buff/debuff trail) on her 1 is hard to utilize, and easy to get out of. It does little impact on team fights..
I feel like because of the bugs you're nitpicking every little thing, you can very easily look at the brightly colored passive meter telling you what your shape is. Chronos has been in the game forever and nobody complains about having to look at his passive to activate his 2, its just another thing to make the god more skillful (not that chronos is super difficult, but his 2 does have a learning curve) I think you just don't want to learn to use these abilities effectively, I haven't played much Baba Yaga but from what I've seen, yes her two is clunky, and she is buggy, and she needs work, but you're being critical to things that don't need it. I agree with what you are saying about how she doesn't fit into a role in conquest very well because she really doesn't. I think that she just isn't the type of god right now that is to be played fast, I've seen slower gameplays where they poke and then go for frags and it works great.
Her big problem is that she is a burst mage with no burst with a non existant early and midgame
Look, just because for you personally it's fine, it doesn't mean it's fine for everyone. I don't particularly enjoy Chronos' passive either, but it's still a hell of a lot easier to see what's going on there are a quickly glance considering his whole passive is a massive clock. For Baba, the majority of space is taken up by the visuals of the hut which ironically don't fulfill any important function. Some aspects of some characters will always bother some people more than others and sometimes it can't be changed. In this case however it could be easily improved already by just changing the visuals of the passive so the ability shape takes up the majority of the space.
Her ult it's random when you're not able to cast while in the ult and if you're not able to cast during the ult from the 1st time ulting in the match then you will never be able to for the rest of the game. I'm normal cast type of player and on console so i dont have an issue with the brew although it confused me at first throwing a stored brew. They should add a health shield on baba yaga when you cast a 3 like they do with Heras ability, fix her ult, buff the damage on brew toss, make her brew cast faster and enable people to choose the type of cc they want from her ability passives by a toggle when you enter the fountain like they do with Achilles passive and add 1 setting to let the random happen or set to certain ones. Think that would be a balance and fix the issue people have with honestly.
She shouldn't be. In arena. Her house gets into my way messing up my vision. Especially as. An assassin.
They made a god where ulting is a bad idea.
I really enjoy baba yaga atm. Her damage seems on par with most mages from my time with her on conquest and the different shapes from her one feel really good
when you hit with the second part. I really don't get what the problem with the oval is, if you just look slightly off centre then you hit full wave with is and also mages that
have to stand close to wave. Just play with quick casting off and you'll be fine. Apart from her ult not firing sometimes she is super fun to play with good damage as long as you can aim.
Also, all her abilities feel sluggish and slow, the animations take way too long and her moves are terribly telegraphed
I think removing the ult for stance switch mechanics would be better suited for her. Baba yaga would keep her uniqueness, but getting rid of the rng frustration in the process.
Im surprisingly good with the oval. My main issue is the ult but I wouldn't mine if they change the oval as well
Besides the bugs I honestly think she’s a good god damage wise like after I got use to her delays and how fast her projectiles move with the 2 I just built movement speed damage to utilize her hit and get away with it and it’s good with the ult since you have doom orb active while you ult ppl so u can catch up to ppl and hit the ult unless they try to whiff it but other than that she’s pretty balanced it just her bugs. The one is fine but yeah the oval is pretty weird but with the oval I just try to get edge for damage but in my opinion if I’m in a fight I like the silence oval. Her 3 is fine since she’s a mage who’s suppose to die but I find it funny I can use it to escape a Cerberus ult but not use it to get away from certain things like Scylla can do but I get that since u get mitigation. Btw I’m a console player
Theres no reason to play her because theres other mages that are just better. Maybe if you wanna just play her for the laughs, but honestly shes like a C tier mage.
I still dont know why the slow debuff is the only one to remain for a bit after leaving Baba's 1. Cant they do that with all the other buffs? So you dont have to stay in the shape that most of the times [atleast so far I've seen] isnt happening or isnt the main objective, only because its on the way.
The two I think would be better if you had two charges in it, able to switch between them by pressin the 2, rather than using up a space that could be a valuable ward or an actual consumable potion.
And the ultimate should have its own HP just like how Heroes of the Storm do with one of The Lost Vikings ultimate, the viking boat having its own HP [relative to the Vikings arround it, this case could be Baba's total HP], but if its destroyed before it ends all Vikings inside lose a % of their HP + stun.
I feel like crit chance rng is broken. Even when I have like 90% I feel like it’s not even 50
8/10 times I kept getting the damn Oval shape in Clash, that's when I decided she wasn't worth using plus her ult is slow which usually ends up killing me. She needs a rework asap, get rid of the damn Oval and make her ult faster overall.
i feel like she needs to have a slight speed boost in the hut. oval i like personally but i know all the problems it has. her ult projectile speed needs to be faster too, i like the heavier skill cap on her. She needs to lose the protection buff too, its so minor its pointless to even have it
I like the oval for minions
You mentioned that console has it difficult for getting potions out
This is kinda wrong as its very clear what you need to press to get your potion and it's in a position that makes it easy to do in the middle of a fight (for xbox no clue about others)
They probably should do some of like residual damage in her abillities, like the ulti and put that on the 1 and 3.
Everyone bragging about getting Baba diamond realises that they've been getting 3x worshipers lately, right? It's not _that_ impressive
lol at your profile pic
Personally I don't want her to be a burst mage. I would like her to be more like Hades and Zhong. Battlemage-ish. Remove the oval, and the speed buff on the ability. I would keep the protection buff to keep her in a bruiser role.
Agree, even if it wasn't Hirez intention for her to work like that. Then again I tend to prefer uitility mages over burst...
Team synergy is really hard to get in casuals when in 95% of games you have at least 1 person go 0-11-5, or a level 7 player, or somebody who doesn't want to play their picks designated role and doesn't say anything about it. All I'm saying is that maybe matchmaking has some issues.
Cause everyone wants to play damage and not tank.
Baba is just so unpredictable which makes her unreliable, like matchmaking.
I haven’t really had any issues with her. I like her think you just have to build her right just like every other god
Thank you! Everyone is whining about how her ult and the oval on her 1 but you just need to be skilful with her and predict your opponents movement. In the majority of my joust games I’ve done well with her. My build is Warlock Staff, Cooldown Boots (replaced by rod late game), Spear of Desolation/Divine, Soul Gem, Soul Reaver (or something useful for countering) and Staff of Myrdin to use your 1 twice or 2 three times.
do you know how towers in smite work for power and pen the numbers seems weird to me
Lol there’s nothing wrong with her I’ve only died two times while playing her
playing against bots doesn't count.
I don’t play against bots
*As he plays in bronze 5*
Boomer Alert bronze 😂😂😂you wish
I get some of the criticism, but I think she is one of the most fun gods to be released in a while. Also I think her rng is just part of her learning curve. But if it were to change maybe just have a set cycle of how the 1 comes out
I actually agree that she's still fun. In games that go well, her kit is absolutely hilarious and can be very satisfying. But the experience is too often soured by her downsides imo. And learning curve is one thing, but poor visual clarity (such as the useless hut in the passive forcing the important info to be smaller) simply isn't necessary when it can easily be avoided.
Let's be real tho, they're totally going to leave her damage numbers busted when they finally make her usable, and hoo boy is she going to be cancerous when that happens.
Nah. The other mages are just better
Maybe I missed it when he discussed his alt, but did he say damage? Cause I’m pretty sure a wet paper towel does more than her alt. The alt is pitiful and in my eyes by far her biggest problem.
Its an ult
The Multiple Levels of RNG on top of her RNG for her first 2 abilities is just wow. It Makes her so inconsistent. Who thought this was a good idea? 🤦
Even when you're doing particularly well as her enemies can get away most of the time because of her lack of lock down, slow firing speed on everything but her 1, bad luck on getting what you need to pop out for her 1 & 2, and her Ult essentially firing pillows.
If they remove the oval massively buff the 2 but dont make it storable in the consumeable slot and buff her ult a little bit with more of a shield and maybe more damage she would be fine dont know how this got through pts to be honest
the 2 should do the damage of 2 potions all the time