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Already have the code but ill appreciate your kindness regardless by the way thanks to Smite i was able to know about your channel 4 years ago so im glad for that. Grettings from Xbox dude.
I can’t get back to my pc with the appropriate scripts on it for about a month, but if you’ve got api keys, you could actually check for any given day how many games of any given game mode were played for any given platform. If you wanted to go further in depth with this at some point, you could definitely get some interesting stats via the api, ie: what percentage of games played yesterday were on non-pc platforms? If you want specifics on how to do all this, feel free to reach out.
Console ranked is bad. I’m stuck in like gold after placing for the first time last season and I just can’t get out and people can’t do simple team building it’s bad
@@yourlord1263 I thought they made a new twitch account recently? For that exact reason "more views" because they got banned on their other account I believe
well with the advent of xbox getting moue and keyboard support sometime next year (last I heard) we could viably see some more mobas moving to console as well. will they? that i'm not sure, but it is possible. though if they do, they will likely be told they need to find a way to make controllers workable for every action
Its the reason we on console what a giid console moba be me personally i hate the top down style of most other pc mobas make it feel no better then a mobile moba game
@@adomaster123 I know they don't, I was talking about how pc mobas don't do that but mobile ones likely do, heck any mobile game does that. "Oh you've just installed our game for the first time, how about you spend $9.99 on this stuff? Or maybe buy this thing for $19.99"
Cross play and the switch version(when it is free to play) will at least bring some people and keep the game going for a bit longer. The fact I can take smite anywhere will help me get back into the game fully.
Cross platform is probably going to lose players since the console players will get mad at how good some of the pc players are and why they are losing and having a full red history, Epic fortnite style B^)
@@bananaslayer5xd170 to me, which Ive been playing PC smite for quite a bit, can say that PC is the most cancerous and the worst to play on, based on matchmaking and the quality of teammates. Level 18 playing with 2k+ hour people.
To be completly honest; I personally think that one of the biggest problems of Smite is 'HiRez' the company behind it. All of my interactions with HiRez (as a player) have been highly unprofessional. Yes - it is a free to play game but we are still customers; especially when you see that a person is investing money (gems) and time (Game, Conventions) to support the game. I got to the point where I quit the game for about 2 years and just now recently returned. I feel like your average normal-joe will not be able to do well in certain games (like ranked conquest matches) due to their strange and foreign banning policy. Basically if you are playing by yourself and are not part of a set static, people will BM you and report you because they think you played badly leading to your account being suspended. I approached Hi Rez about this when I've gotten a suspension for "match griefing due to intentional feeding" (which was completly not the case!). They assured me, that every suspension is confirmed by a HiRez employee. So at this point I cannot really blame whoever reports me, but have to talk it out with the company. Thing is, they are not in the least bit interested in what happened or if it was just or not. With this kind of "customer-service" they are driving away people.
Damn if you got banned for intentional feeding that means a lot of people witnessed you feed your brains out in whatever game mode you were playing. Imo it seems like it is your fault for something like that to have happened. Because if you were performing well in your matches hi rez will have seen that and completely ignore the reports because those reports were untrue.
I wish this was the case. It has now been about 2 years since this happened. I can tell you - in all honesty - that I *did not* feed. (#TeamF7) Much less intentionally. Was I reported in more than one game? Yes - probably - due to the said system. At this point I was playing for about half a year and wanted to take it to the next step and start ranked matches, since I felt that I became better in casual conquest. It is my understanding, that there is a auto-banning system in place when you get reported a certain amount of times during a day. So when I got the notification that my account was suspended; I immediately contacted them. It took them about 2 weeks (by the time the suspension was obviously lifted again) to get back to me. I HIGHLY doubt, that they would have watched the games to see what I was doing when I died. But regardless; I can only do my best. I am not a pro player (obviously). But it drove me away and even now, I feel like doing some casual gamings, but my fear of being unjustly suspended again are too high to really get into the game again. Additionally I also dont want to invest more money into the game by buying gems or visit them at conventions.
Also, since my return, I send them another email using the support ticket function on their website voicing my hesitations and asking on how to avoid these issues in the future. It's been almost 3 weeks without a reply.
I've been there , I played with a 4 man clan in casual game an got reported, for playing Ymir solo was bann for 48hours . The bann system is stupid IMO.
@@anexusthanatos4021 We hate it on console too. They keep "updating" it but i feel like everything keeps getting worse, im glad they added the profile button back though.
@@AnputVT the actual game play is in a great place. It's everything else that's fucked. Like matchmaking. If they can spend s6 fixing that rather than working on balance then the game will have real potential of passing DotA and lol
One thing that I REALLY dislike in Smite is so many skins are exclusives and limited and only in chests. I would actually spent some money on those limited skins or skins that are in chests, but since I can`t get them, I won`t. I think they would earn more money if that was not the case.
I started playing on Xbox in season 2 and the moved to PC because it took them like a month to get season 3 on it... I guess that I made a good move at the time, but it soon won't matter anyway because they'll merge the servers, so maybe I'll even play on Xbox now, because I can probably get better performance on it.
@@edgarmanuelzetinaaguilar6972 By better performance I meant better framerate than on my laptop. Mouse and keyboard are better in my opinion once you get used to it and since Xbox has mouse and keyboard support now and they'll probably add it to Smite soon, it's probably just gonna be a better platform for me to play on untill I buy a gaming PC. Also, you should be able to play it on PC with controller too, I just never managed to make it work for some reason.
yeah we don't have any options for MOBAs so it makes sense that Smite is the go-to of console and that it grows rather well, PC players can just quit and play another one but console literally has no options.
They need to start fixing the game in season 6 for more growth. As per me, if you just look at the gameplay and nothing else, smite is better than LOL or dota, plain n simple. If hirez makes some bold moves in this regard, things will improve a lot for pc as well.
@@TheeOK1 I meant to say its gameplay looks better. From my perspective, to someone who knows nothing about these 2 in prior, smite will look more fun as it is more action-packed.
@@shloksrivastava1627 while I do personally agree with you and it is the main reason i play smite over LoL or Dota along with the fact that it's on consoles which is my preferred platform. This is 100% just your opinion some people might think LoL looks more action packed then smite.
I agree with you. That is the only reason I have zero interest in LoL, because it looks so old-school with the bird-eye camera angle and everyone looks tiny, all basic attacks are little shiny orbs, etc. It's like Smite is Photoshop and LoL is Microsoft Paint 😳🤔
My biggest issue with the game is matchmaking. I find it absolutely frustrating when you put every effort to win a game, and you team is suffering because of 1 or 2 people who have no clue what they are doing. Then you are held f7 hostage for sometimes up to 1 hour of a really slow drip lost game. Sooner or later you begin to get pissed off because nothing is working, no one wards, no one calls out. The game is absolutely un-enjoyable due to the teams I have been placed on. I am not saying I am hot shit, but I do feel that I am decent at the game.
Great video dukesloth. I somewhat giggled when you said the smite employees got angry lol. Also i watch your videos on my phone alot because you have a sort of "radio" presence where i can play your video and do something else. It's mainly due to whats going on in your video is usually just gameplay. Which isn't bad im actually complimenting how you are an easy figure to listen to.
A few years ago, somebody told me that they most listen to my videos on their way to work, podcast-style. Ever since then I've been trying to make sure that whenever possible, I'd make the video in a format where it's interesting enough to watch it if you want to, but you will get all the information you need by listening as well. Most of the time it works out, I think, though it can sometimes be a bit chaotic on number-heavy videos. Also the salt shaker actually shows up here as well, that's neat! :D
yeah I can't get anyone new to play smite because of the shit ui, the mouse disappearing constantly, being unable to invite people because they're in a party, being unable to join someone else's party ect
I'm an Xbox player, I don't play as much anymore but I think crossplay will definitely help as a whole. I always wanted to play on pc but had too much invested in Xbox without a way of transferring everything
Tyler Seelow yea me too. I just can’t stand playing smite on console anymore. I’ve since moved onto league after playing smite almost everyday for an entire year but crossplay will definitely get me back into it a little.
@@adamthepear_ situationally you could but not completely until cross progression is enabled. Pc could link to Xbox during Xbox release and same with ps4, but console couldn't link to pc
This game takes a sharp learning curve too. Many average players just cant seem to get it. Which maybe why not may still play. I'm trying to get other folks to play it on whatever platform.
Duke your content is not focused on PX only, you focus on mechanics, balance, tips and tricks, that applies to console as well, you have to acknowledge us more ):
Yeah, that's what I meant by "you can translate most of it 1 to 1". But when I talk controls I usually say "wasd" or describe the abilities with 1,2,3 and 4 instead of the console buttons - though I imagine most console players do the same.
@@Zlittlepenguin This is true. For one thing there are two wildly different but equally popular control schemeS, where you use the ABXY buttons for abilities, or where you use the trigger and bumper buttons. On top of that PS has Square, X, Triangle & circle, which I physically corresponds to Xbox layout, but isn't described as easily. So for clarity, we just "Ability 1, Ult", etc... I even say F6 when referring to surrender, because the button combination is Left Thumb stick + UP on the direction pad. How am I going to say that?
Quit it because of everything being locked behind chests, rather enjoy games where I can buy what I like directly. I also made skin design idea that got into smite, had 0 credit for it, they just use your idea without recognizing you at all.
I miss the old CQ map. The "actives" instead of relics. The underpowered starter items. The 20-30min long games instead of the 45-60min long games. The best thing I think that has been a positive for me is the Ranked and matchmaking, it HAS gotten a lot better. Everything else just gets stale and repetitive.
fred zhen It would be the same idea. Possibly even more effected by the loss in subs in Weakn’s case. Since he primarily plays ranked conquest, and that specific mode has had an even higher loss in viewership.
Focused on the youtubers that are exclusively that and known for youtube because twitch stats tend to be more wonky, but sure: Incon: socialblade.com/youtube/user/billybobjoewilly1 - same as everyone else but even more extreme Weak3n: socialblade.com/youtube/user/weak3nsmite - similar to Rexsi but with a harder decline Mattypocket: socialblade.com/youtube/user/xmattdarex - same as everyone else, though a smaller channel anyways, he doesn't use youtube as much
How about less focus on skins and more on can gameplay and new fun modes and new maps. It's only so much I can look at and do the same thing over and over again.
One of the problems as well is people who installed smite before it was on steam or just went on the website steam charts wobt be able to count that as well
I'll be honest...I was only taking a break from Smite since I invested too much time to it in the past, though I think the main issue (at least with me) is when you take a long break away from something like Smite or LoL, you can never keep track of the meta and have to restart from scratch all over again to relearn the game but not in the same way as when you first start playing. Like I used to be a jungler when I first started because the camp routes were easy to follow, but with change, after change of the layout I ended up playing only one or two games as a tank and eventually moved on to Arena or Assault.
Game is never going to get big unless they really fix matchmaking for duo Q ranked (which they should bring back because solo Q is not fun). They also need to make this game less casual and easier to get in to. CC and Mobility all across the board should be NERFED heavily. Only a few classes should have hard CC and insane escapes (def. not ADCs).
Personally I think it will die, but not anytime soon. I think we will see a increase of players in Season 6, things such as role calling and some of the new gods that are being added will make the game a little bit more fun. However like the genre smite is in the toxic community can be a deterring factor as why many people quit or dont get into smite. Almost every game I play I get a DC, a few feeders, or someone who flames. What usually made MOBAS fun for me was playing with friends, and not many of my friends want to play smite.
Only thing can bring old players back to smite is New ranked system other than that İ don't really see reason to return this game.İ had more fun in beta than this.And hirez rather than use costumer money for markeeting, better serverda and bugs.they pooping bootleg version of popular games.Lets not fool ourselves.We past to Vanilla Smite and Devs keep releasing more and more no effort gods for pull new players.İn Season 5 Skillshots mostly forgotten all gods coming with bloated kits,big aoe skills.İt's sad this game have no alternative.When games like Gigantic and Paragon died its sad to see this game surviving because of they keep milking their shrinking player base with events.
You need to keep in mind the closing of Paragon. A lot of Paragon players "including me" went to play Smite after the close of Paragon. And they'll almost certainly leave Smite the after it's revive, wether it was "Core" "Predecessor" or any other game that is using the Paragon assets or has the Paragon spirit within it.
I came from Paragon too and I do not intend to go back to these half-asseds remakes of Paragon, although I love Paragon back in the day, nowadays I think Smite is much better than Paragon as a moba. Not to mention that most of the Paragon playerbase was on PS4, and these Paragon remakes are hardly going to come out on PS4. Paragon is dead and its not gonna come back like it was before, these remakes will have a very low playerbase and not gonna last longer.
SupertrampRoberto Paragon was born in the wrong hands, Epic didn't show any effort or interest in making Paragon a successful game, Paragon could've easily wiped the success if not only Smite.. but all the famous MOBAs. They kicked out the the godfather who had the right vision of the game and brought people that all they did is lowering the game's skill cap and made it easy and noob friendly to bring more people and kids to put money in the game. They didn't have patience for a successful game that needed process, they needed something like Fortnite that made them instantly rich. So don't think if a big company like Epic failed in Paragon that every other company will fail. Because it's not about how big the company is, it's about the vision and showing will to make the game great. And I agree with you that Smite is a better "MOBA" than Paragon, and btw.. nobody wants Paragon to comeback like it was before. Because that's what doomed the game, for me I care a lot about the heroes, iI just want the heroes to live and everything else is depended on the people who are going to make it, and all I can do is to wish them luck in bringing this game to the level that it's supposed to be in.
Paragon didn't have what it takes to beat either Smite, League of DOTA at all. You're quite dellusional, Paragon barely made a dent in the MOBA market, might as well have been inexistant. It was bound to die and it's what happened, basically, no matter who was behind it. Also, it's false that vision is what matters: MOBAs and free to plays in general, need a big money back up to get them the time to build up or they can't succeed at all even with great ideas. It's called initial capital and it's why most games fail even with good concepts: it takes time for the concept to reach people and this time requires money.
dzello wtf are you talking about? Like who the hell said Paragon was so good that it has beaten all the other MOBAs, my point is that Paragon "COULD HAVE" beaten the other MOBAs, if Epic games took care of it and didn't just give up because apparently they fucking realized that they suck at making MOBAs. If Paragon had the card system and balance of Smite I can't imagine any human-being prefers to play a game a shitty graphics with no Z axis game. That's the point. I'm not saying Hi-Rez are gods in developing this game but every time I see them taking care of their community I remember how Epic treated the Paragon community. And I remember how Paragon got murdered. And all I wish is that when Paragon comes back it will take the place that it deserved.
Ravioli Pocketoly ok buddy. And I'll tell you Paragon could've easily wiped the success of those two game. But meh, I'm not arguing with somebody who didn't play or understood Paragon.
I love SMITE. but their balance team has the worst balance team I've ever seen. Gods from before season 1 and 2 get left behind in updates constantly, they listen to the dumbest website that has no idea what they're talking about; Reddit. SMITE does not know how to balance, they do have fantastic skins, their main game mode, Conquest, is the worst game mode in the game. Guardians are left behind while assassins and Hunters and Warriors and Mages get INSANE damage buffs when the defensive items "ex: shield of thorns" the only defensive active item that countered hunters fairly was nerfed into the ground. People bitch and moan that Ares is Overpowered so when he received his Tier 5 skin, he received no quality of life changes to warrant people to buy his skin, when if you compare Ares to Athena he lacks so badly that it's actually laughable. meanwhile Ullr, who was already one of the strongest hunters in the game, when he received a tier 5 he got A 100% UNNECESSARY BUFF, and then when his hype died they removed it. SMITE cannot balance to save their life. and that's what drove me away.
His content is highly negative and he's always with a draining low energy in every video. He never misses an opportunity to say he wants to quit the game or that it's dying. That's why he loses his public. It gets boring after awhile.
Stopped playing smite on a regular basis because they removed dou queue for ranked conquest. Only time I played smite is with one friend and all he wanted to play was ranked. So when they removed that option I just stopped playing for a while coming back every few weeks to see what’s changed. Hope they bring back duo queue so I can have fun with the game again.
If you have an understanding of stats you would know stats lie. At the end you admitted your stats were pointless and irrelevant, you stated it's primarily for pc stats. If smite is dying you need stats from hirez of how many on average players are on their servers across every platform not some stats from viewing smite. There are smite players who play smite and never watch live stteams , the console leagues ect. You made this video to not even answer the question is smite dying, once again you stated your stats and findings and assumptions for your own viewership is wrong. Some of you subscribers and active viewers didn't even answer your poll. You need to look at matmatical facts not stats that lie. I am a die hard smite player and never watch smite streams nor console leagues. I watch solo double j for funny builds he does and his videos are memeful and funny. Sometimes I watch your videos cause of your topics if they interest me and this controversial title got me to watch it. Take that into account. You disappointed me and probably others for your bad video as you fall for the stats fallacy.
PS4 player here. The main reason why I play on console is because I started playing Smite wayyy back when I owned an Xbox one before I made the switch to PS4. I have all my progress in terms of levels, mastered gods, and most importantly, skins. I know accounts don’t transfer all this stuff between console and PC which is why I stayed with console. Plus most of my friends I play with are console so it makes sense to play it on there. I really don’t see myself changing anytime soon. Just s personal preference at this point. I just don’t want the game to die.
This, fucking 100%. I'm so furious about it dude, it could have helped a lot especially because a decent chunk of Smite players are from PS4, and now we can't grow as a community, on a base level, because we have no access to the crossplay. But I've already spent money on skins and shit on PS4 and I don't want it all go to waste, nor do I have a PC good enough to run Smite properly, so like... you're basically fucked. It's sad. It just feels like PS4 Smite is going to go further and further downhill until suddenly Hi Rez won't care about us anymore because we're not part of the crossplay
You can google it. It's in the FAQ for Crossplay from Hirez. Unfortunately we probably can't even blame them for it It's most likely Sony not allowing it because they want PS4 to be it's own thing. Was the same thing with Fortnite.
It’s not guaranteed that it won’t happen. We’re all just waiting for Sony to stop being petty, eventually Sony will see the money they can make by doing it and will give in. Stay hopeful
@@TheNani_ I know it's Sony's fault, there's no way Hi Rez would agree to it unless they had beef with Sony and I don't see why they would. I'm trying to stay hopeful they'll come around but at the same time I don't have much hope either; if Sony never agrees to it, I don't see why Hi Rez would focus much on PS4 players anymore. But maybe they still will at least for the fans still there, who knows
I think it is important to not call smite dieing all the time, cause that causes even more players to leave it. Glad you made a different video, I'm tiered of that "smite dieing" videos
Don't get me wrong, the game is fun, probably the most fun I have had with a moba. I have also been playing for 4 years, but i can't continue anymore; theres so many games releasing that are way more fun and also Smite is extremely rough on my wallet vs games that are $60 or cheaper. I really want to keep playing but the games problem with cost of everything and the combination of better games coming out; its hard for me, but I will sadly say goodbye to Smite. Though, I will not lie, the youtubers and streamers I watched for Smite such as Mythymoo, Weak3n, Duke, etc I will miss them but for the most part I would keep watching them as a form of remembering the fun times I have had. Overall, Ill miss the game and social points of smite, but I gotta say goodbye.
I wouldn't be able to go a week without at least playing one match of arena or something. Its not logical to try and get every limited skin unless you bought all your gems during the 33%-35% off sales and saved the gems for those skins. I used to think it was important to get every skin for my three mains, but...now I'm reserving my purchases for skins that I wouldn't be able to live without 🤔 Like for Dreadful Doll Izanami :') I wish you the best! 🙃
It's blatantly obvious Hi-Rez doesn't directly make money from how good the game is for people, they make it mostly from gems. The amount of skins being released is 10x more frequent, in more chests, and there are about a hundred more things you can buy with gems. If Hi-Rez focused on ACTUALLY expanding and organizing the pro scene, and encouraging competitive, then people beyond just casuals would start enjoying the game more. Vast majority of competitive type players don't like SMITE because there's nothing to shoot for, and the game is no longer designed to make comp play interesting. Better pro scene means more views, more competitive players, more casual players, and more revenue. Basically: Don't focus on console (console pro scene is non-existent), actually organize and communicate with SPL teams, and stop adding bot-burger characters with low CD/large AOE/skilless abilities (Baron, Discordia, Da Ji, Sol, etc.) because it's not interesting to play against or as in comp.
@@Rabeshin She's unbelievably boring. Low CD, high damage, big targeters, uncreative/skilless abilities, easy hard cc, etc. Basically all you have to do with Discordia is have enough of a brain to not die, and you get rewarded for spamming easy as fuck to hit abilities on as many people as you can. Her skill ceiling is almost non existent because it's pretty much the same as her skill floor. She's made for console, which is why console should be put to the side until the game isn't pepega as fuck.
Barons 1 and 3 are pretty hard skillshots if you want to stun with 3 you have to damage with a ability, 4 is just a free kill usually though, unless they remove CC.
No one is really going to care but here’s my smite story, I never really had a good computer growing up because of the price difference between buying an Xbox or buying a fully built computer that can run games so I just stuck to games that were available on Xbox. So I never had the opportunity to really play a MOBA but then when I saw smite on the Xbox store I instantly got it and that’s when my adventure began. I instantly fell in love with the game and started to play it more and more, gradually stopping playing any other games at all. When I finally hit level 30 which was the start of season 3,the first thing I wanted to do was play ranked and I was a big daddy bacchus main, so I played support for 10 games in a row and lost 7 of them which placed me straight in bronze 4. A little bit disheartening but I just kept on grinding, not because I wanted to climb the ranks but the game was so addicting and I was actually learning something new every game it felt like. Whether it was something like where I should ward or when I should start roaming it felt like there was still so much to gain. That’s what kept me invested in the game but over the season I ended up switching to a jungle main and ended the season in gold 3. That’s when I really started to learn more about the game, all of the hidden mechanics that can you can use to turn a team fight or even a gank into a successful. so over the next couple years I kept playing and kept learning and ended up diamond for the first time. But while I was grinding the game just started to become stale, which definitely happens in a MOBA but I feel like Hirez (titan forge now) could feel the game was somehow becoming stale because they started to bust out gods left and right. I loved all the variety until Morrigan hit, I’m sorry but how can you release a god into open game that can literally crash the game. I would of greatly preferred they take their time work out the kinks and brought something great into the game. After She was released it just felt like they were trying to dump out as many gods as possible and not really care if they were fair or balanced. While they were doing that they were shoving skins down my throat releasing so many skins that it was overwhelming and most of them for the same gods that already had plenty just because it was an easy route to take to make some more money. After a while and people started to get sick of the chests they opened up daily skin packs that actually were a good deal because you can see exactly what skins you are going to get for a reasonable price. All of that is fair play but it just felt like they were releasing countless skins while not really working on the game play at all, there were still so many glitches that could happen or just God’s that had to permanently banned in ranked or they would run the game even if it was someone’s first time playing them(ahem Achilles). My ranked play became terrible because of the matchmaking issues I was a diamond playing that ended up having silver players in the game. So finally after months of having a terribly balanced game and losing duo que which was probably the right move but I play games to play with friends as well, and there was no way I was going to play casual conquest. I ended up just becoming less and less invested in the game I stopped watching videos on it as much and the main thing was I didn’t really care about learning what else the game can offer I finally quit playing.
Here’s an idea to help the game start to grow start to release more lore or even start to have titan forge backed music videos such as LoLdid, they make a standard moba look so much more than that and it really got more players interested and invested into the game. Just an idea they may need to spend their budget elsewhere to help better the game but it is a great marketing tactic
I dunno why it surprise people that there is more console gamers.. There is a reason all AAA companies focuses on consoles first. There is MORE THAN DOUBLE the amount of gamers on each console than on PC. Look at the numbers on every game that got releases on every platform and the number of players will ALWAYS be higher on consoles.. This is old news and will always be like this.
I supported this game as much as possible... got Baellona and Ares T5's and I'm Canadian so it costs 25% more. Gg wp Edit: Also got both of my bros to play (addicted)
I really liked Smite for bringing a new aspect (3rd person view) to MOBA genre. One thing I hated is how skins are sold. Too many limited and unavailable skins. Many good skins can only be achieved if you buy everything for an event.
Honestly I have high hopes for Season 6 Season 5 has been I feel the best season ever and has had many many positives( although some negatives of course) Now with Titanforge having a bit of Independence I can trust in Ajax to bring his vision to life.
Cross plat accounts would be great. I used too play on ps4, but recently got a new PC and I dont want to play on PC because I bought so many skins on ps4 😅 From my understanding you cant access your console accounts on pc!
I normally play on PS4 because I had a crap computer for a while but I want to start playing on pc but I have the problem of the client will not even work for me half the time and I have spent a lot of money on skins for my PS4 and I don’t want to have to spend money again in order to get skins I already have on another platform
No need to go into detail in this comment but it's pretty simple smite isn't dying mostly because of twitch switch, the way they push gems at you and just want you to buy shit,bringing way to many gods in they don't need to overwhelm players even more,and the fucking childish map design I feel like I'm playing a cartoon.
Man I play from beta.. and the only think I can say is! SMITE BECOME A TRASH!+The update is the worst from all! I really hope this game dying! is one of my favorite games but I hate how they make such a good game and transform it worst year by year... AT LEAST if this game is dying they will add more gems events or something! or put some skins to get for free... but still a waste of time.. now I know I can't even play a mach because you (stay like 10-20/40 min to play) xD funny game... funny! I HOPE THEY WILL CHANGE IT BECAUSE NOW I REALLY HATE IT.. PEACE OUT! AND LIKE :)
As a consumer part of the issue I see is that this game is buggy, some of the older character modelling is out dated, and all this gives it a very unprofessional look. I believe they bank on the fan base that has lived through the bugs for the sake of their passion for the game, but that means the game will stay stagnant as new players will expect more out of a game.
Smite's playerbase is mostly on xbox these days. I always thought PC players preferred League of Legends and that smite dying on PC was the reason they brought it to console so that they can rake in more players and revenue across multiple platforms
I wish this game would get some more traction. I love it so much, I find it far more engaging and fun than LoL (but I do love LoL as well), and the characters are all so cool, and interesting. I first got into the game when I saw SlyFoxHound playing the game with Sp00nerism (and I think some people from the CreatureHub, rest in peace). It's weird, how I see Smite usually referred to in the "Trinity" (LoL, DOTA, Smite), but it's the least popular. One day.
I love this shit out of this game and have 2k hours invested and $300 in skins. But... I can't play it anymore. I stick to assault and as soon as a teammates says "vva" im ready to alt+f4. I'll just watch from a distance. Much love.
I've been playing smite less and less recently, for several reasons. First, matchmaking has been abyssmal lately, far worse than its ever been for me. Secondly, they continue to fuck over their paying base with really overpriced lootboxes. While i appreciate the oddysey, they still had that divine uprising lootbox event, on top of the lootboxes they continue to implement. Not to mention the NUMEROUS bugs that at times give Bethesda a run for their money. It just becomes increasingly harder to come back to a game/company that doesnt seem to care when there are so many better games out there. Honestly the only reason i still play is because of sunk-cost, but if i ever get over that, i cant say theres much keeping me here.
I still do not understand why they dont upgrade the Console UI then copy paste it, instead of copy pasting a UI that Console players dont like. Even if there are more players on Consoles combined, majority of players did not like that UI change. It would have been better to polish the Console UI instead so the PC downgrade wasn't as big of a downgrade. Then more people would be happy. I actually know quite a few players who stopped playing because of the UI change.
It makes sense. Leauge/DotA dominate the PC MoBA Genre [And even then; LoL is MULTIPLE times larger than DotA2]. Even Blizzard couldn't penetrate the market and has basically given up on HotS. Smite likly only survived in the first place because of it's unique perspective and gameplay. But on consoles? There isn't competition. And Smite's gameplay style even translates well to consoles, as it's more reminiscent of a Shooter than an ordinary MoBA. Smite has a very, very, very strong niche as a console MoBA.
Smite is shit plain and simple. & it will stay that way unless Hi-rez actually puts effort into the game, which they won't because all they know how to do is take other ideas.
Before I quit Smite I had played it consistently for over 2 years at 1st on console then on PC. The last time I played Smite was 3 months ago for only 1 game. 1st game back on the game I loved to play back in the day I was excited until everyone in the damn game started being toxic then i remembered why I quit the game. The player base is toxic. On top of this I looked at my ping which was over 100 even though I have over 100 down and up internet and no ping issues in any other game. This is because I am a West Coast player and for whatever reason the majority of the NA servers are East Coast. Playing with shit ping every damn game is the biggest killer for me and in conjunction with the toxic players makes the game unbearably frustrating leading to me myself becoming toxic. Aside from toxicity and awful ping one other big reason why I quit the game was the god awful micro transaction system in Smite. Yes it is optional but that is not a valid excuse for them having such a bad system. If it was fair or fairer I wouldn't be complaining and gladly fork over some cash to the game I love but since it is either heavily rng based or requires an exuberant amount of gems it is trash. They need to make money but they also need to respect the people who put hours upon hours into their game or else they lose them like they did with me.
Smite is the only proper MOBA on Consoles. The other big name MOBAs (LoL, DOTA2, HOTS) are simply impossible to bring to consoles because it's impossible to implement any half-decent controller UI for those games. 3 or more years ago on Smite Reddit (before Smite was released on Xbox one) I was saying Smite is an ideal MOBA for console and there is huge growth potential for smite on consoles if only Hi Rez would do it seriously. And Whaddya know, possibly the only reason Smite is still able to survive is because of console.
I play XBOX and PC. XBOX has the largest player base and Smite is good there but you now may see it die with cross play. Unless everyone is buying a mouse and keyboard. I said Console would die if people don't pick up a mouse and keyboard. I believe cross play was a bad idea with PC. If it was cross console fine it would made sense. However PC kills console. I like XBOX live party chat and it makes playing smite easier to make quick calls. Now why do I play PC cause the better quality for competitive was there. Where XBOX I can just have casual fun in chat with friends. For me Smite will die because of this if they dont give an option to play cross play or not. I have stopped playing Smite a lot on XBOX and most of my friends have also many who only play on XBOX. Cause casuals no longer fun when it's just wait for a team to have 3 guys on PC. It was a bad choice in my opinion when guys that played every day for 2 some 3 years or longer stop playing. Now I'm not going to blame it all on cross play. I know many had burn out and will comeback. Others didn't like the new Conquest but I think that is the smallest reason and really in the end no reason as it was reason many came back that left last year. Large reason was they hated the Meta. I love Guardians but many of my friends are Solo lane players and most hate Solo as they love Warriors and now they were pushed out. When I rotate and play back as a guardian and beat them in Solo. When it was Sobek and Xing Tian and Terra as the only Solo Guardians it wasn't so bad most have told me. Many loved last year Bellona and Osiris. I think season 6 will fix that issue I hope cause Warriors being pointless hurts smite really a lot. Lets face it Solo laners many love to slap box for days. But Season 5 was the season of play safe Solo. That killed Smite for most of my Solo lane friends. They didn't enjoy the Solo play style and that actually made it for me a Support Main have to play more and more in Solo. In fact Solo for a long time was my 3rd role. This year I played Support around 30% previously it would be like 50%. ADC my typical 2nd role was 20%. With previous seasons closer to 25% it also dropped a ton really as most of the play was early season when no one wanted to play ADC. Solo normally was 10% in previous seasons. This year 40% it was my main role not by choice. However my least played roles stayed about the same. Maybe a little more mid play and jungle but not much at all. When I see near 100 maybe even more than 100. people leave on XBOX and the majority before cross play was Solo and that was also seen on PC many Solo players hated the sit under tower season 6. It got worse with Guardians blessing came into the meta. However recently I have seen the most of my console friends stop playing and the number 1 reason was cross play. This became very evident with ADC friends whole I have not seen a week or 2 after it happen. Same for Jungles and Mids. Only guys even playing as much or close is Support mains. I think cross play has already hurt Smite. Let's face it PC players have massive advantages and only time I feel console does is with mic play and not needing VGS.
I have been playing this game since Beta, and I'm still supporting SMITE to grow up. One thing that makes SMITE dying is players, IMO. Every game I play, toxic player and new player (never complained about it, also helped them). Especially in Ranked, it was nightmare for me. There are at least 2 toxic player in game and ruin the game. Overall is people in this community.
I played this game a lot when it was in "beta" or early access. Even bought the pack that gave me all current and upcoming heroes because I believed in the project. Played the game quite a bit, found a few heroes I really liked, but eventually stopped playing. Not because of balance or Hero diversity, but because the animations and spells feel so little impactful. Autoattack champions feel "clunky" and their animations even worse. Fixing this now would require a lot of effort but if they'd put some more work into sound design and animations early I probably would still be playing. An example of what I mean is Thor, just look how little impact the ult feels like it has, then look at for example Galio in league of legends. You can make animations VFX and SFX be really good without getting too much clutter.
As a player who has over 4k hours on it I can say smite is dead...last year and half I need to play main(s) to win since mm is trash,metas are horrible and game itself is running with common bugs over 2+ years with new bugs..."but you can play for fun" No I can't...I know how to play all gods I'm mobile with picks but do I want to lose over 5 games while going only one positive in team? No. :)
Smite was best in the year 2017 there was balance and constant content know we rarely get gods on when we do we get uninteresting basic trash like Arthur this lack of content and the fact that Hi-Rez LITERALLY DOWNGRADED the conquest map is the factors that caused me to stop playing the game I I used to be able to play every single day
Given what I experienced during Season 5 in several modes, not surprising Smite PC is going down in pop, starting tomorrow I am off MOBAs for the year maybe longer myself. I do think they have some issues given 2 other factors not mentioned. 1 - number of League teams are smaller for S6 means less money that Hi-Rez has to pay out, if they are doing fine why shrink the money paid out? 2 - enabling cross-play to me means there is a playerbase shrinkage somewhere.
I loved smite. I had an account sense day one one PC. But i will never touch this game again. A few months back, my account got hacked into. Someone changed my email and password. It took Hi-Rez over a .month to respond to my email about getting my account back. Just to inform me, for security reasons they are permanently banning my account because they thought I was "sharing" my account. Then stopped replying to my emails. I ALOT of time and money into my account. Never been report or had one single negitive remark on my account. Their Customer Service is utter trash. I understand it's a Free To Play Game. But they have a massive fan and player base. The game as a whole, is alot of fun and worth playing. But after what they put me through. I refuse to support this game or ever play again
Smite is being cannibalized by Hi-Rez with all the skins. Sure, they need to make money as an F2P game, but the fact is it's been almost a full year and a half since you had directly purchasable skins outside of the Odyssey. I don't want to buy a 800 gem bundle with a bunch of shit I don't want just for the 300 gem skin I do want. I don't want to roll 1 in 40 400gem chests for the -one- skin I want.
Smite is a really good game. But with all the advertisement for their pay to play skins (which is understandable because it’s a free game) it turns my mood around, of course you could grind daily rewards for gems. I very much like MOBA’s with third person perspective.(ex:paragon) and with new characters soon like Merlin and King Arthur, I think this game has a lot more gods and content to go through before it runs dry
If i still gamed on PC i would be playing Diablo 2 LOD and nothing else. My wife has hijacked our Switch for Stardew Valley. Better believe im going hard on Switch when it drops. Finally, i will be the Smurf!
I like the game, but, some things just disgust me. Like toxic comunity, matchmaking, not enough interesting god realeases (I mean fun new gods), skins get more expensive each patch, unbalances, bugs, new menu style, new queue type (countdown), and I think there are more.... I mean I eant the game to grow, obviously, is my most played game, but lets be clear, they are making the old players want to quit playing...
Ok...so what may be in decline for pc is rising for çonsole because console has no other competitors. (Keep That in mind, other MOBAS) As a 3rd person shooter MOBA, smite is the option. They need to assert dominance by allowing smite to be the only cross platform game to get updates along with pc. I think every ps4 or xbox can have an update sooner than pc if hirez would realize every console is the same, and every pc is going to be slightly different.. Meh, im sure it's way more difficult than that, but it's still feasible.
I started playing smite 6 years ago and the game is now completely dead in Australia. It is literally impossible to play, and I wonder why it's dead? Because Hi-Rez doesn't give a shit about the quality of their game. They can't balance anything properly and they just keep releasing skin after skin instead of actually focusing on making the game good. Hi-Rez get on top of your shit please, I'd love to play your game but you make it impossible.
I had to stop playing SMITE for a long, long time because it suddenly just stopped launching on my computer. I tried everything. I uninstalled/ reinstalled in various ways, I restarted my PC many times, I cleared old cache and files out that could have been conflicting with it, I turned the firewall on and off, I even resorted to putting the thing back to factory settings but damn absolutely nothing worked. Now I'm getting a new PC I think it's about time I got back into it
Smite was slowing getting on my nerves with the chest system & greed. Plus the long wait times, constant "balancing", & blah blah blah. Then after discovering SpaceLords this past month, Smite lost my interest. On the scale from 1 to 10, my interest level in Smite now is like 1.75. Honestly. I don't care like I used to. I just log in every now and then for favor & gems (most of the time losing track & not able to get gems). I log in also to check out new content & play a few games of co op, then off to another game.
Only reason I prefer console over PC is the fact that I can be laying in bed and game at the same time. Now that SMITE is coming to Switch and can now take a shit and queue ranked at the same time, though the issue comes when its time to wipe. Enemy is gonna be doing Firegiant while Im over here rushing to wipe ass, as my Team is dead, spamming 'Woohoo' or 'You Rock' 'Cancel That'
I HOPE SMITE DOES NOT DIE !!! :C im just now starting to get the hang of it and its fun and cool and the skins are awesome... so... yeah i bought many XD
In OCE atm you can only get joust games and occasionally arena/conquest at peak time and days. The main issue is the number of players because a lot stopped playing in OCE (including myself) after they removed multi-queue and found it impossible to get games further making the player base even smaller. Crossplay will hopefully revitalize the player base.
I would really love for this game to continue to grow... but in order to do that they do need to make a few changes... not necessarily balance changes or anything because as I see it we don't have a lot of bad gods anymore... and there aren't as much OP gods as there used to be (except for freya and maybe artio.) I'd just like a revert to the ui… that most likely won't happen though. And i'd like PS4 to be on cross platform as well (even though Sony hates us gg bois xD) All i'm saying is that I do love this game and I don't want to see it die especially since season 6 is just around the corner. Another thing i'd like so see them improve on in season 6 that doublej brought to attention to kinda make MOTD more fun for people. I think that would be really cool and a good excuse to log in everyday just to see what new fun interesting game mode is there. I don't know but I'm just saying they do need to make a few changes before this game is perfect (it's almost there just needs another push ^ ^)
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Got the last one on xbox thanks!👍
DukeSloth got the 3rd row bay!
Already have the code but ill appreciate your kindness regardless by the way thanks to Smite i was able to know about your channel 4 years ago so im glad for that. Grettings from Xbox dude.
I can’t get back to my pc with the appropriate scripts on it for about a month, but if you’ve got api keys, you could actually check for any given day how many games of any given game mode were played for any given platform. If you wanted to go further in depth with this at some point, you could definitely get some interesting stats via the api, ie: what percentage of games played yesterday were on non-pc platforms? If you want specifics on how to do all this, feel free to reach out.
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Xbox player since the beginning and subscriber at the same time. Don’t rule out the console dudes!
Definitely not ruling them out, never did, but also never fully acknowledged that they completely steamrolled (heh) over PC at this point until now.
I’m on Xbox too, sol mains unite
Console ranked is bad. I’m stuck in like gold after placing for the first time last season and I just can’t get out and people can’t do simple team building it’s bad
@@eradian1 The only ranked game mode that I play it's Duel, at least in Duel I know that my match won't be affected by a 0/7/2 Baron.
I really want this game to grow
We all do i guess but it looks like Hi-rez don't.
Same! I don't want a Smite where no one is playing, I can only do bot matches. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Good luck with the comeback of Paragon happening.
@@Swiftix13 that's funny paragon is dead
UnseenShadow dude you're an ignorant, if you don't know what I'm talking about then stfu please.
Smite is a fun game. Wish it would catch on. Needs better marketing
Fabiano Pina This is so true. Too bad hirez was money grabbing so they switched to mixer so they can't bring in as many views through twitch
@@yourlord1263 I thought they made a new twitch account recently? For that exact reason "more views" because they got banned on their other account I believe
@@datboiiishawn6206 changed the name, not a new account
Just play League_of_legends,at least they will not fck with your money, like Hi-Rez did...
@@davor8426 i am new to the game, how did hi-rez money-grab
The reason I think smite is bigger on console is that it's the only moba on console, HOTS, DOTA, and LOL don't have a console edition.
well with the advent of xbox getting moue and keyboard support sometime next year (last I heard) we could viably see some more mobas moving to console as well. will they? that i'm not sure, but it is possible. though if they do, they will likely be told they need to find a way to make controllers workable for every action
Its the reason we on console what a giid console moba be me personally i hate the top down style of most other pc mobas make it feel no better then a mobile moba game
@@Troll_vs.yes but at least the pc mobas dont try and shove the "clearly pay to win" cash shop down your throat every 2 seconds
Jason Miller smite doesn’t have any pay to win.
@@adomaster123 I know they don't, I was talking about how pc mobas don't do that but mobile ones likely do, heck any mobile game does that. "Oh you've just installed our game for the first time, how about you spend $9.99 on this stuff? Or maybe buy this thing for $19.99"
Cross play and the switch version(when it is free to play) will at least bring some people and keep the game going for a bit longer. The fact I can take smite anywhere will help me get back into the game fully.
FatBikerZombie 8 love the profile pic
Yeah can't wait to see some pro switch players lel
Cross platform is probably going to lose players since the console players will get mad at how good some of the pc players are and why they are losing and having a full red history, Epic fortnite style B^)
@@bananaslayer5xd170 I'll assume they'll have an option to only play on your platform
@@bananaslayer5xd170 to me, which Ive been playing PC smite for quite a bit, can say that PC is the most cancerous and the worst to play on, based on matchmaking and the quality of teammates. Level 18 playing with 2k+ hour people.
To be completly honest; I personally think that one of the biggest problems of Smite is 'HiRez' the company behind it. All of my interactions with HiRez (as a player) have been highly unprofessional. Yes - it is a free to play game but we are still customers; especially when you see that a person is investing money (gems) and time (Game, Conventions) to support the game. I got to the point where I quit the game for about 2 years and just now recently returned.
I feel like your average normal-joe will not be able to do well in certain games (like ranked conquest matches) due to their strange and foreign banning policy. Basically if you are playing by yourself and are not part of a set static, people will BM you and report you because they think you played badly leading to your account being suspended. I approached Hi Rez about this when I've gotten a suspension for "match griefing due to intentional feeding" (which was completly not the case!). They assured me, that every suspension is confirmed by a HiRez employee. So at this point I cannot really blame whoever reports me, but have to talk it out with the company. Thing is, they are not in the least bit interested in what happened or if it was just or not.
With this kind of "customer-service" they are driving away people.
Damn if you got banned for intentional feeding that means a lot of people witnessed you feed your brains out in whatever game mode you were playing. Imo it seems like it is your fault for something like that to have happened. Because if you were performing well in your matches hi rez will have seen that and completely ignore the reports because those reports were untrue.
It is unfortunate that you got banned for that though hopefully if you continue to play smite it doesn't happen again in the future
I wish this was the case.
It has now been about 2 years since this happened. I can tell you - in all honesty - that I *did not* feed. (#TeamF7) Much less intentionally. Was I reported in more than one game? Yes - probably - due to the said system. At this point I was playing for about half a year and wanted to take it to the next step and start ranked matches, since I felt that I became better in casual conquest.
It is my understanding, that there is a auto-banning system in place when you get reported a certain amount of times during a day.
So when I got the notification that my account was suspended; I immediately contacted them. It took them about 2 weeks (by the time the suspension was obviously lifted again) to get back to me.
I HIGHLY doubt, that they would have watched the games to see what I was doing when I died. But regardless; I can only do my best. I am not a pro player (obviously). But it drove me away and even now, I feel like doing some casual gamings, but my fear of being unjustly suspended again are too high to really get into the game again.
Additionally I also dont want to invest more money into the game by buying gems or visit them at conventions.
Also, since my return, I send them another email using the support ticket function on their website voicing my hesitations and asking on how to avoid these issues in the future. It's been almost 3 weeks without a reply.
I've been there , I played with a 4 man clan in casual game an got reported, for playing Ymir solo was bann for 48hours . The bann system is stupid IMO.
still hate the UI
just saying...
Same
yeah,it's disgusting
+1
@@anexusthanatos4021 We hate it on console too. They keep "updating" it but i feel like everything keeps getting worse, im glad they added the profile button back though.
I personally believe Season 6 will bring back a decent amount of players who have quit since season 6 is very devoted to actually fixing the game
Alex JV season 6 hype I hope its really good compared to some other times
They said that s6 won't change a lot as they feel the gameplay/god/item balance is in a good place rn.
Anput Where did they say this?
@@AnputVT the actual game play is in a great place. It's everything else that's fucked. Like matchmaking. If they can spend s6 fixing that rather than working on balance then the game will have real potential of passing DotA and lol
Ridiculous amount of crashing bugs in the game rn
One thing that I REALLY dislike in Smite is so many skins are exclusives and limited and only in chests. I would actually spent some money on those limited skins or skins that are in chests, but since I can`t get them, I won`t. I think they would earn more money if that was not the case.
Ikr! The skins we want we have to WIN. Nobody wants to buy expensive chest 1000 times to win a skin you eant
Playing since season 2 on Xbox. Never tried it on any other platform.
same here
I started playing on Xbox in season 2 and the moved to PC because it took them like a month to get season 3 on it... I guess that I made a good move at the time, but it soon won't matter anyway because they'll merge the servers, so maybe I'll even play on Xbox now, because I can probably get better performance on it.
@@martinjez1 That's basically the reason I play on Xbox, I'm not as good with the mouse and keyboard, I'm to comfortable with the Xbox controller.
@@edgarmanuelzetinaaguilar6972 By better performance I meant better framerate than on my laptop. Mouse and keyboard are better in my opinion once you get used to it and since Xbox has mouse and keyboard support now and they'll probably add it to Smite soon, it's probably just gonna be a better platform for me to play on untill I buy a gaming PC.
Also, you should be able to play it on PC with controller too, I just never managed to make it work for some reason.
SMITE is the only big MOBA offered on console.
yeah we don't have any options for MOBAs so it makes sense that Smite is the go-to of console and that it grows rather well, PC players can just quit and play another one but console literally has no options.
Core is coming.
Paladins?
Wow, great observation. No shit?
Ariston Bowers I’m pretty sure Xbox ps4 and switch combined have as much or more players than pc
I've been playing since S1, but the new UI has made it completely unplayable for me. It's just terrible, uninstalled and am not looking back.
They need to start fixing the game in season 6 for more growth. As per me, if you just look at the gameplay and nothing else, smite is better than LOL or dota, plain n simple. If hirez makes some bold moves in this regard, things will improve a lot for pc as well.
I wouldn't go as far to say it's better than LoL, but yes, the game has tons of potential.
@@TheeOK1 I meant to say its gameplay looks better. From my perspective, to someone who knows nothing about these 2 in prior, smite will look more fun as it is more action-packed.
@@shloksrivastava1627 while I do personally agree with you and it is the main reason i play smite over LoL or Dota along with the fact that it's on consoles which is my preferred platform. This is 100% just your opinion some people might think LoL looks more action packed then smite.
@@steventapia3274 completely agreed. just my thoughts.
I agree with you. That is the only reason I have zero interest in LoL, because it looks so old-school with the bird-eye camera angle and everyone looks tiny, all basic attacks are little shiny orbs, etc. It's like Smite is Photoshop and LoL is Microsoft Paint 😳🤔
My biggest issue with the game is matchmaking. I find it absolutely frustrating when you put every effort to win a game, and you team is suffering because of 1 or 2 people who have no clue what they are doing. Then you are held f7 hostage for sometimes up to 1 hour of a really slow drip lost game. Sooner or later you begin to get pissed off because nothing is working, no one wards, no one calls out. The game is absolutely un-enjoyable due to the teams I have been placed on. I am not saying I am hot shit, but I do feel that I am decent at the game.
Had a siege game where we were 14-15 And I realized I had all the kills and hadn't died once, we lost that game
5leepy i had a game of Conquest that lasted 2 hours bc both the teams where complete noobs and 2 people on my team didn’t wanna surrender lol
@@mariano2sexc Mind boggling how a 3 v 2 f6 favors the 2 people
@@shidfard yeah 3=60%=majority... But no... Logic amirite?
Main reason why I quit smite being level 146!
Brutal Maglini Time is putting out great content
Best yt channel!
Always have been, glad they're finally getting more attention. They've been around for so long
Admittedly the bigger Moba games being LoL and HOTS aren't on console at all. So Smite is a great game to play to fill that hole for me.
HoTs is literlally dead lol.
@@AnputVT pretty close yeah
In aus hots is more alive than smite lol
@@ShadeyClaymore Pretty close? HoTs literally canceled their eSports and is in maintenance mode, how can you not even mention DOTA2?
@@AnputVT I didn't even know bout the Dota thing. Neat.
Xbox players, rise up
The reason the xbox player base is so big is because you don't have other games
@@eldritchemissary4718 savage LOL
Damian Arnsdorff we dont have that many moba games in fact we only have 2
@@damianarnsdorff9689 top down mobas can't be played with a controller to my knowledge
Ascended Degenerate why not? There are other overview games like POE on Xbox. It’s not a moba but why would that matter?
Great video dukesloth. I somewhat giggled when you said the smite employees got angry lol. Also i watch your videos on my phone alot because you have a sort of "radio" presence where i can play your video and do something else. It's mainly due to whats going on in your video is usually just gameplay. Which isn't bad im actually complimenting how you are an easy figure to listen to.
A few years ago, somebody told me that they most listen to my videos on their way to work, podcast-style. Ever since then I've been trying to make sure that whenever possible, I'd make the video in a format where it's interesting enough to watch it if you want to, but you will get all the information you need by listening as well. Most of the time it works out, I think, though it can sometimes be a bit chaotic on number-heavy videos.
Also the salt shaker actually shows up here as well, that's neat! :D
Just to be clear: Salt shaker wasn't referring to you, it was referring to the icon next to A Rawas' name for being a member
@@DukeSloth ayy thanks for the reply. Your podcast style format works my man and yes im glad the salt shakers show up here too XD
Smite just have a stable player base. The Moba just not that popular as it was and getting new people to keep playing is tough.
yeah I can't get anyone new to play smite because of the shit ui, the mouse disappearing constantly, being unable to invite people because they're in a party, being unable to join someone else's party ect
smite is a underrated game I live this game
Rexsi growed because he removed the "Sexy" from his name which made RUclips recommend him
I'm an Xbox player, I don't play as much anymore but I think crossplay will definitely help as a whole. I always wanted to play on pc but had too much invested in Xbox without a way of transferring everything
Tyler Seelow yea me too. I just can’t stand playing smite on console anymore. I’ve since moved onto league after playing smite almost everyday for an entire year but crossplay will definitely get me back into it a little.
You could always link your accounts
@@adamthepear_ situationally you could but not completely until cross progression is enabled. Pc could link to Xbox during Xbox release and same with ps4, but console couldn't link to pc
This game takes a sharp learning curve too. Many average players just cant seem to get it. Which maybe why not may still play. I'm trying to get other folks to play it on whatever platform.
Maybe if they let us play together in smite ranked conquest, things will change.
Duke your content is not focused on PX only, you focus on mechanics, balance, tips and tricks, that applies to console as well, you have to acknowledge us more ):
Yeah, that's what I meant by "you can translate most of it 1 to 1". But when I talk controls I usually say "wasd" or describe the abilities with 1,2,3 and 4 instead of the console buttons - though I imagine most console players do the same.
DukeSloth yeah there aren’t many console players that actually say “X,A,B,Y” they are still mostly referred to as “1,2,3,4” heheh
@@Zlittlepenguin This is true. For one thing there are two wildly different but equally popular control schemeS, where you use the ABXY buttons for abilities, or where you use the trigger and bumper buttons. On top of that PS has Square, X, Triangle & circle, which I physically corresponds to Xbox layout, but isn't described as easily. So for clarity, we just "Ability 1, Ult", etc... I even say F6 when referring to surrender, because the button combination is Left Thumb stick + UP on the direction pad. How am I going to say that?
Now let's wait for the third review a year later. Thanks for the video Duke
Quit it because of everything being locked behind chests, rather enjoy games where I can buy what I like directly. I also made skin design idea that got into smite, had 0 credit for it, they just use your idea without recognizing you at all.
Which skin?
I miss the old CQ map. The "actives" instead of relics. The underpowered starter items. The 20-30min long games instead of the 45-60min long games. The best thing I think that has been a positive for me is the Ranked and matchmaking, it HAS gotten a lot better. Everything else just gets stale and repetitive.
What about incon, mattypocket and weaken RUclips stats
fred zhen It would be the same idea. Possibly even more effected by the loss in subs in Weakn’s case. Since he primarily plays ranked conquest, and that specific mode has had an even higher loss in viewership.
Focused on the youtubers that are exclusively that and known for youtube because twitch stats tend to be more wonky, but sure:
Incon: socialblade.com/youtube/user/billybobjoewilly1 - same as everyone else but even more extreme
Weak3n: socialblade.com/youtube/user/weak3nsmite - similar to Rexsi but with a harder decline
Mattypocket: socialblade.com/youtube/user/xmattdarex - same as everyone else, though a smaller channel anyways, he doesn't use youtube as much
I'll tell you why it's dying, it's steep learning curve combined with a toxic community.
I’m not surprise because on ps4 there only 1 moba
RIP Paragon
How about less focus on skins and more on can gameplay and new fun modes and new maps. It's only so much I can look at and do the same thing over and over again.
You forgot that HotS got butchered, and players are moving to other mobas.
Didn't forget, but Smite's current stats don't reflect that much, considering it happened in december
One of the problems as well is people who installed smite before it was on steam or just went on the website steam charts wobt be able to count that as well
DukeSloth i believe console got more players than PC players cuz they don't have LoL or Dota 2 and other high angel camera moba in general
I think the reason smite is more popular on console is because dota 2 and league of legends are pc only
I'm fairly sure its dying because everyone is secretly bastet arachne and hades mains
Curses! I've been found out!
Now they all try to play Fenrir support, and butcher my god that is easy to use
im an arachne main, but we all know its the loki mains that kill smite
Im an arachne and hades main and my best friend is a bastet main... wtf stop looking into my soul dude
Im a khepri main if we get enough of us well keep it alive fam 😂
I'll be honest...I was only taking a break from Smite since I invested too much time to it in the past, though I think the main issue (at least with me) is when you take a long break away from something like Smite or LoL, you can never keep track of the meta and have to restart from scratch all over again to relearn the game but not in the same way as when you first start playing. Like I used to be a jungler when I first started because the camp routes were easy to follow, but with change, after change of the layout I ended up playing only one or two games as a tank and eventually moved on to Arena or Assault.
People have been saying Smite is dying for years now, it’s not at all, it might not be growing but it’s not dying either, kind of like Overwatch
Game is never going to get big unless they really fix matchmaking for duo Q ranked (which they should bring back because solo Q is not fun). They also need to make this game less casual and easier to get in to. CC and Mobility all across the board should be NERFED heavily. Only a few classes should have hard CC and insane escapes (def. not ADCs).
Personally I think it will die, but not anytime soon. I think we will see a increase of players in Season 6, things such as role calling and some of the new gods that are being added will make the game a little bit more fun. However like the genre smite is in the toxic community can be a deterring factor as why many people quit or dont get into smite. Almost every game I play I get a DC, a few feeders, or someone who flames. What usually made MOBAS fun for me was playing with friends, and not many of my friends want to play smite.
Only thing can bring old players back to smite is New ranked system other than that İ don't really see reason to return this game.İ had more fun in beta than this.And hirez rather than use costumer money for markeeting, better serverda and bugs.they pooping bootleg version of popular games.Lets not fool ourselves.We past to Vanilla Smite and Devs keep releasing more and more no effort gods for pull new players.İn Season 5 Skillshots mostly forgotten all gods coming with bloated kits,big aoe skills.İt's sad this game have no alternative.When games like Gigantic and Paragon died its sad to see this game surviving because of they keep milking their shrinking player base with events.
You need to keep in mind the closing of Paragon.
A lot of Paragon players "including me" went to play Smite after the close of Paragon.
And they'll almost certainly leave Smite the after it's revive, wether it was "Core" "Predecessor" or any other game that is using the Paragon assets or has the Paragon spirit within it.
I came from Paragon too and I do not intend to go back to these half-asseds remakes of Paragon, although I love Paragon back in the day, nowadays I think Smite is much better than Paragon as a moba. Not to mention that most of the Paragon playerbase was on PS4, and these Paragon remakes are hardly going to come out on PS4. Paragon is dead and its not gonna come back like it was before, these remakes will have a very low playerbase and not gonna last longer.
SupertrampRoberto Paragon was born in the wrong hands, Epic didn't show any effort or interest in making Paragon a successful game, Paragon could've easily wiped the success if not only Smite.. but all the famous MOBAs.
They kicked out the the godfather who had the right vision of the game and brought people that all they did is lowering the game's skill cap and made it easy and noob friendly to bring more people and kids to put money in the game.
They didn't have patience for a successful game that needed process, they needed something like Fortnite that made them instantly rich.
So don't think if a big company like Epic failed in Paragon that every other company will fail. Because it's not about how big the company is, it's about the vision and showing will to make the game great.
And I agree with you that Smite is a better "MOBA" than Paragon, and btw.. nobody wants Paragon to comeback like it was before. Because that's what doomed the game, for me I care a lot about the heroes, iI just want the heroes to live and everything else is depended on the people who are going to make it, and all I can do is to wish them luck in bringing this game to the level that it's supposed to be in.
Paragon didn't have what it takes to beat either Smite, League of DOTA at all. You're quite dellusional, Paragon barely made a dent in the MOBA market, might as well have been inexistant. It was bound to die and it's what happened, basically, no matter who was behind it.
Also, it's false that vision is what matters: MOBAs and free to plays in general, need a big money back up to get them the time to build up or they can't succeed at all even with great ideas. It's called initial capital and it's why most games fail even with good concepts: it takes time for the concept to reach people and this time requires money.
dzello wtf are you talking about? Like who the hell said Paragon was so good that it has beaten all the other MOBAs, my point is that Paragon "COULD HAVE" beaten the other MOBAs, if Epic games took care of it and didn't just give up because apparently they fucking realized that they suck at making MOBAs.
If Paragon had the card system and balance of Smite I can't imagine any human-being prefers to play a game a shitty graphics with no Z axis game. That's the point.
I'm not saying Hi-Rez are gods in developing this game but every time I see them taking care of their community I remember how Epic treated the Paragon community. And I remember how Paragon got murdered. And all I wish is that when Paragon comes back it will take the place that it deserved.
Ravioli Pocketoly ok buddy. And I'll tell you Paragon could've easily wiped the success of those two game. But meh, I'm not arguing with somebody who didn't play or understood Paragon.
I love SMITE. but their balance team has the worst balance team I've ever seen.
Gods from before season 1 and 2 get left behind in updates constantly, they listen to the dumbest website that has no idea what they're talking about; Reddit.
SMITE does not know how to balance, they do have fantastic skins, their main game mode, Conquest, is the worst game mode in the game.
Guardians are left behind while assassins and Hunters and Warriors and Mages get INSANE damage buffs when the defensive items "ex: shield of thorns" the only defensive active item that countered hunters fairly was nerfed into the ground.
People bitch and moan that Ares is Overpowered so when he received his Tier 5 skin, he received no quality of life changes to warrant people to buy his skin, when if you compare Ares to Athena he lacks so badly that it's actually laughable.
meanwhile Ullr, who was already one of the strongest hunters in the game, when he received a tier 5 he got A 100% UNNECESSARY BUFF, and then when his hype died they removed it.
SMITE cannot balance to save their life. and that's what drove me away.
League of legends cant balance well either and also listen to reddit way too much.
@@anthonystone9897 ??????????????????????? Good luck reaching silver 4 next season
@@Xx3p17MW3Pl4Y3rxX i was gold last season. I dont even play anymore since smash came out
Yeah LoL has the worst balance team
Lol, if you think anyone is going to read this, you're strongly mistaken. Uninstall, pal.
Imo it is mythymoos fault, that he loses views/subs. I watched every video, but since he uploads stream highlights, i got bored of his content.
His content is highly negative and he's always with a draining low energy in every video. He never misses an opportunity to say he wants to quit the game or that it's dying. That's why he loses his public. It gets boring after awhile.
Stopped playing smite on a regular basis because they removed dou queue for ranked conquest. Only time I played smite is with one friend and all he wanted to play was ranked. So when they removed that option I just stopped playing for a while coming back every few weeks to see what’s changed. Hope they bring back duo queue so I can have fun with the game again.
If you have an understanding of stats you would know stats lie. At the end you admitted your stats were pointless and irrelevant, you stated it's primarily for pc stats. If smite is dying you need stats from hirez of how many on average players are on their servers across every platform not some stats from viewing smite. There are smite players who play smite and never watch live stteams , the console leagues ect. You made this video to not even answer the question is smite dying, once again you stated your stats and findings and assumptions for your own viewership is wrong. Some of you subscribers and active viewers didn't even answer your poll. You need to look at matmatical facts not stats that lie. I am a die hard smite player and never watch smite streams nor console leagues. I watch solo double j for funny builds he does and his videos are memeful and funny. Sometimes I watch your videos cause of your topics if they interest me and this controversial title got me to watch it. Take that into account. You disappointed me and probably others for your bad video as you fall for the stats fallacy.
I gave logical points to go against is smite dying assumption. Alot of people just like you cherry pick and ignore certain things people say. Good bye
PS4 player here. The main reason why I play on console is because I started playing Smite wayyy back when I owned an Xbox one before I made the switch to PS4. I have all my progress in terms of levels, mastered gods, and most importantly, skins. I know accounts don’t transfer all this stuff between console and PC which is why I stayed with console. Plus most of my friends I play with are console so it makes sense to play it on there. I really don’t see myself changing anytime soon. Just s personal preference at this point. I just don’t want the game to die.
To be honest some utubers have been talking like mythypoo said some of his friends r quiting and stuff
I've never been able to get into a PvP game on SMITE in Australia. I've been trying on and off for about two years
Will definitely die for ps4 sadly. The fact that they didn't get the cross play will definitely lower the player base.
This, fucking 100%. I'm so furious about it dude, it could have helped a lot especially because a decent chunk of Smite players are from PS4, and now we can't grow as a community, on a base level, because we have no access to the crossplay. But I've already spent money on skins and shit on PS4 and I don't want it all go to waste, nor do I have a PC good enough to run Smite properly, so like... you're basically fucked. It's sad. It just feels like PS4 Smite is going to go further and further downhill until suddenly Hi Rez won't care about us anymore because we're not part of the crossplay
You can google it. It's in the FAQ for Crossplay from Hirez. Unfortunately we probably can't even blame them for it
It's most likely Sony not allowing it because they want PS4 to be it's own thing. Was the same thing with Fortnite.
It’s not guaranteed that it won’t happen. We’re all just waiting for Sony to stop being petty, eventually Sony will see the money they can make by doing it and will give in. Stay hopeful
@@your-chariot-awaits9249 Its Playstations fault not Hirez
@@TheNani_ I know it's Sony's fault, there's no way Hi Rez would agree to it unless they had beef with Sony and I don't see why they would. I'm trying to stay hopeful they'll come around but at the same time I don't have much hope either; if Sony never agrees to it, I don't see why Hi Rez would focus much on PS4 players anymore. But maybe they still will at least for the fans still there, who knows
I think it is important to not call smite dieing all the time, cause that causes even more players to leave it. Glad you made a different video, I'm tiered of that "smite dieing" videos
Don't get me wrong, the game is fun, probably the most fun I have had with a moba. I have also been playing for 4 years, but i can't continue anymore; theres so many games releasing that are way more fun and also Smite is extremely rough on my wallet vs games that are $60 or cheaper. I really want to keep playing but the games problem with cost of everything and the combination of better games coming out; its hard for me, but I will sadly say goodbye to Smite.
Though, I will not lie, the youtubers and streamers I watched for Smite such as Mythymoo, Weak3n, Duke, etc I will miss them but for the most part I would keep watching them as a form of remembering the fun times I have had.
Overall, Ill miss the game and social points of smite, but I gotta say goodbye.
how is free hurting your wallet. It's a moba
I wouldn't be able to go a week without at least playing one match of arena or something. Its not logical to try and get every limited skin unless you bought all your gems during the 33%-35% off sales and saved the gems for those skins. I used to think it was important to get every skin for my three mains, but...now I'm reserving my purchases for skins that I wouldn't be able to live without 🤔 Like for Dreadful Doll Izanami :') I wish you the best! 🙃
You don't really have to spend money 😂 that's just u. But the other games I can understand.
Lol just stop buying all the skins....? Sure buy something every now and then, who cares about the skins?
You make it sound like hirez has a gun pointed at your head to make you buy everything they sell
It's blatantly obvious Hi-Rez doesn't directly make money from how good the game is for people, they make it mostly from gems. The amount of skins being released is 10x more frequent, in more chests, and there are about a hundred more things you can buy with gems. If Hi-Rez focused on ACTUALLY expanding and organizing the pro scene, and encouraging competitive, then people beyond just casuals would start enjoying the game more. Vast majority of competitive type players don't like SMITE because there's nothing to shoot for, and the game is no longer designed to make comp play interesting. Better pro scene means more views, more competitive players, more casual players, and more revenue.
Basically: Don't focus on console (console pro scene is non-existent), actually organize and communicate with SPL teams, and stop adding bot-burger characters with low CD/large AOE/skilless abilities (Baron, Discordia, Da Ji, Sol, etc.) because it's not interesting to play against or as in comp.
Hey! I like Discordia 😅
@@Rabeshin She's unbelievably boring. Low CD, high damage, big targeters, uncreative/skilless abilities, easy hard cc, etc. Basically all you have to do with Discordia is have enough of a brain to not die, and you get rewarded for spamming easy as fuck to hit abilities on as many people as you can. Her skill ceiling is almost non existent because it's pretty much the same as her skill floor. She's made for console, which is why console should be put to the side until the game isn't pepega as fuck.
@@youtubeisgarbagesuckme Bro Bastet is also hella OP
Barons 1 and 3 are pretty hard skillshots if you want to stun with 3 you have to damage with a ability, 4 is just a free kill usually though, unless they remove CC.
The title should be: "Was Smite ever alive?"
No one is really going to care but here’s my smite story, I never really had a good computer growing up because of the price difference between buying an Xbox or buying a fully built computer that can run games so I just stuck to games that were available on Xbox. So I never had the opportunity to really play a MOBA but then when I saw smite on the Xbox store I instantly got it and that’s when my adventure began. I instantly fell in love with the game and started to play it more and more, gradually stopping playing any other games at all. When I finally hit level 30 which was the start of season 3,the first thing I wanted to do was play ranked and I was a big daddy bacchus main, so I played support for 10 games in a row and lost 7 of them which placed me straight in bronze 4. A little bit disheartening but I just kept on grinding, not because I wanted to climb the ranks but the game was so addicting and I was actually learning something new every game it felt like. Whether it was something like where I should ward or when I should start roaming it felt like there was still so much to gain. That’s what kept me invested in the game but over the season I ended up switching to a jungle main and ended the season in gold 3. That’s when I really started to learn more about the game, all of the hidden mechanics that can you can use to turn a team fight or even a gank into a successful. so over the next couple years I kept playing and kept learning and ended up diamond for the first time. But while I was grinding the game just started to become stale, which definitely happens in a MOBA but I feel like Hirez (titan forge now) could feel the game was somehow becoming stale because they started to bust out gods left and right. I loved all the variety until Morrigan hit, I’m sorry but how can you release a god into open game that can literally crash the game. I would of greatly preferred they take their time work out the kinks and brought something great into the game. After She was released it just felt like they were trying to dump out as many gods as possible and not really care if they were fair or balanced. While they were doing that they were shoving skins down my throat releasing so many skins that it was overwhelming and most of them for the same gods that already had plenty just because it was an easy route to take to make some more money. After a while and people started to get sick of the chests they opened up daily skin packs that actually were a good deal because you can see exactly what skins you are going to get for a reasonable price. All of that is fair play but it just felt like they were releasing countless skins while not really working on the game play at all, there were still so many glitches that could happen or just God’s that had to permanently banned in ranked or they would run the game even if it was someone’s first time playing them(ahem Achilles). My ranked play became terrible because of the matchmaking issues I was a diamond playing that ended up having silver players in the game. So finally after months of having a terribly balanced game and losing duo que which was probably the right move but I play games to play with friends as well, and there was no way I was going to play casual conquest. I ended up just becoming less and less invested in the game I stopped watching videos on it as much and the main thing was I didn’t really care about learning what else the game can offer I finally quit playing.
Here’s an idea to help the game start to grow start to release more lore or even start to have titan forge backed music videos such as LoLdid, they make a standard moba look so much more than that and it really got more players interested and invested into the game. Just an idea they may need to spend their budget elsewhere to help better the game but it is a great marketing tactic
I dunno why it surprise people that there is more console gamers.. There is a reason all AAA companies focuses on consoles first. There is MORE THAN DOUBLE the amount of gamers on each console than on PC. Look at the numbers on every game that got releases on every platform and the number of players will ALWAYS be higher on consoles.. This is old news and will always be like this.
smite skin disatvantages was the peak of dukesloth
I supported this game as much as possible... got Baellona and Ares T5's and I'm Canadian so it costs 25% more. Gg wp
Edit: Also got both of my bros to play (addicted)
I really liked Smite for bringing a new aspect (3rd person view) to MOBA genre. One thing I hated is how skins are sold. Too many limited and unavailable skins. Many good skins can only be achieved if you buy everything for an event.
Honestly I have high hopes for Season 6
Season 5 has been I feel the best season ever and has had many many positives( although some negatives of course)
Now with Titanforge having a bit of Independence I can trust in Ajax to bring his vision to life.
Cross plat accounts would be great. I used too play on ps4, but recently got a new PC and I dont want to play on PC because I bought so many skins on ps4 😅
From my understanding you cant access your console accounts on pc!
I normally play on PS4 because I had a crap computer for a while but I want to start playing on pc but I have the problem of the client will not even work for me half the time and I have spent a lot of money on skins for my PS4 and I don’t want to have to spend money again in order to get skins I already have on another platform
Logan Cooper can't u just link your hirez acount
No need to go into detail in this comment but it's pretty simple smite isn't dying mostly because of twitch switch, the way they push gems at you and just want you to buy shit,bringing way to many gods in they don't need to overwhelm players even more,and the fucking childish map design I feel like I'm playing a cartoon.
Man I play from beta.. and the only think I can say is! SMITE BECOME A TRASH!+The update is the worst from all! I really hope this game dying! is one of my favorite games but I hate how they make such a good game and transform it worst year by year... AT LEAST if this game is dying they will add more gems events or something! or put some skins to get for free... but still a waste of time.. now I know I can't even play a mach because you (stay like 10-20/40 min to play) xD funny game... funny! I HOPE THEY WILL CHANGE IT BECAUSE NOW I REALLY HATE IT.. PEACE OUT! AND LIKE :)
As a consumer part of the issue I see is that this game is buggy, some of the older character modelling is out dated, and all this gives it a very unprofessional look. I believe they bank on the fan base that has lived through the bugs for the sake of their passion for the game, but that means the game will stay stagnant as new players will expect more out of a game.
Got a LOL ad before this video
Smite's playerbase is mostly on xbox these days. I always thought PC players preferred League of Legends and that smite dying on PC was the reason they brought it to console so that they can rake in more players and revenue across multiple platforms
I wish this game would get some more traction. I love it so much, I find it far more engaging and fun than LoL (but I do love LoL as well), and the characters are all so cool, and interesting.
I first got into the game when I saw SlyFoxHound playing the game with Sp00nerism (and I think some people from the CreatureHub, rest in peace). It's weird, how I see Smite usually referred to in the "Trinity" (LoL, DOTA, Smite), but it's the least popular.
One day.
I love this shit out of this game and have 2k hours invested and $300 in skins. But... I can't play it anymore. I stick to assault and as soon as a teammates says "vva" im ready to alt+f4. I'll just watch from a distance. Much love.
I've been playing smite less and less recently, for several reasons. First, matchmaking has been abyssmal lately, far worse than its ever been for me. Secondly, they continue to fuck over their paying base with really overpriced lootboxes. While i appreciate the oddysey, they still had that divine uprising lootbox event, on top of the lootboxes they continue to implement. Not to mention the NUMEROUS bugs that at times give Bethesda a run for their money.
It just becomes increasingly harder to come back to a game/company that doesnt seem to care when there are so many better games out there. Honestly the only reason i still play is because of sunk-cost, but if i ever get over that, i cant say theres much keeping me here.
I have seen more players recently and i think smite is in a good shape now
I still do not understand why they dont upgrade the Console UI then copy paste it, instead of copy pasting a UI that Console players dont like. Even if there are more players on Consoles combined, majority of players did not like that UI change. It would have been better to polish the Console UI instead so the PC downgrade wasn't as big of a downgrade. Then more people would be happy. I actually know quite a few players who stopped playing because of the UI change.
Even though I don’t play anymore I hope it stays alive
I've been playing Smite since I saw a console beta trailer for the Xbox about 3 years ago. Love your channel
It makes sense. Leauge/DotA dominate the PC MoBA Genre [And even then; LoL is MULTIPLE times larger than DotA2]. Even Blizzard couldn't penetrate the market and has basically given up on HotS. Smite likly only survived in the first place because of it's unique perspective and gameplay.
But on consoles? There isn't competition. And Smite's gameplay style even translates well to consoles, as it's more reminiscent of a Shooter than an ordinary MoBA. Smite has a very, very, very strong niche as a console MoBA.
Smite is shit plain and simple. & it will stay that way unless Hi-rez actually puts effort into the game, which they won't because all they know how to do is take other ideas.
Before I quit Smite I had played it consistently for over 2 years at 1st on console then on PC. The last time I played Smite was 3 months ago for only 1 game. 1st game back on the game I loved to play back in the day I was excited until everyone in the damn game started being toxic then i remembered why I quit the game. The player base is toxic. On top of this I looked at my ping which was over 100 even though I have over 100 down and up internet and no ping issues in any other game. This is because I am a West Coast player and for whatever reason the majority of the NA servers are East Coast. Playing with shit ping every damn game is the biggest killer for me and in conjunction with the toxic players makes the game unbearably frustrating leading to me myself becoming toxic. Aside from toxicity and awful ping one other big reason why I quit the game was the god awful micro transaction system in Smite. Yes it is optional but that is not a valid excuse for them having such a bad system. If it was fair or fairer I wouldn't be complaining and gladly fork over some cash to the game I love but since it is either heavily rng based or requires an exuberant amount of gems it is trash. They need to make money but they also need to respect the people who put hours upon hours into their game or else they lose them like they did with me.
Smite is the only proper MOBA on Consoles. The other big name MOBAs (LoL, DOTA2, HOTS) are simply impossible to bring to consoles because it's impossible to implement any half-decent controller UI for those games. 3 or more years ago on Smite Reddit (before Smite was released on Xbox one) I was saying Smite is an ideal MOBA for console and there is huge growth potential for smite on consoles if only Hi Rez would do it seriously. And Whaddya know, possibly the only reason Smite is still able to survive is because of console.
I play XBOX and PC. XBOX has the largest player base and Smite is good there but you now may see it die with cross play. Unless everyone is buying a mouse and keyboard. I said Console would die if people don't pick up a mouse and keyboard. I believe cross play was a bad idea with PC. If it was cross console fine it would made sense. However PC kills console. I like XBOX live party chat and it makes playing smite easier to make quick calls. Now why do I play PC cause the better quality for competitive was there. Where XBOX I can just have casual fun in chat with friends. For me Smite will die because of this if they dont give an option to play cross play or not. I have stopped playing Smite a lot on XBOX and most of my friends have also many who only play on XBOX. Cause casuals no longer fun when it's just wait for a team to have 3 guys on PC. It was a bad choice in my opinion when guys that played every day for 2 some 3 years or longer stop playing. Now I'm not going to blame it all on cross play. I know many had burn out and will comeback. Others didn't like the new Conquest but I think that is the smallest reason and really in the end no reason as it was reason many came back that left last year. Large reason was they hated the Meta. I love Guardians but many of my friends are Solo lane players and most hate Solo as they love Warriors and now they were pushed out. When I rotate and play back as a guardian and beat them in Solo. When it was Sobek and Xing Tian and Terra as the only Solo Guardians it wasn't so bad most have told me. Many loved last year Bellona and Osiris. I think season 6 will fix that issue I hope cause Warriors being pointless hurts smite really a lot. Lets face it Solo laners many love to slap box for days. But Season 5 was the season of play safe Solo. That killed Smite for most of my Solo lane friends. They didn't enjoy the Solo play style and that actually made it for me a Support Main have to play more and more in Solo. In fact Solo for a long time was my 3rd role. This year I played Support around 30% previously it would be like 50%. ADC my typical 2nd role was 20%. With previous seasons closer to 25% it also dropped a ton really as most of the play was early season when no one wanted to play ADC. Solo normally was 10% in previous seasons. This year 40% it was my main role not by choice. However my least played roles stayed about the same. Maybe a little more mid play and jungle but not much at all. When I see near 100 maybe even more than 100. people leave on XBOX and the majority before cross play was Solo and that was also seen on PC many Solo players hated the sit under tower season 6. It got worse with Guardians blessing came into the meta. However recently I have seen the most of my console friends stop playing and the number 1 reason was cross play. This became very evident with ADC friends whole I have not seen a week or 2 after it happen. Same for Jungles and Mids. Only guys even playing as much or close is Support mains. I think cross play has already hurt Smite. Let's face it PC players have massive advantages and only time I feel console does is with mic play and not needing VGS.
I play on PS4 and I watch you religiously.
I have been playing this game since Beta, and I'm still supporting SMITE to grow up. One thing that makes SMITE dying is players, IMO. Every game I play, toxic player and new player (never complained about it, also helped them). Especially in Ranked, it was nightmare for me. There are at least 2 toxic player in game and ruin the game. Overall is people in this community.
I played this game a lot when it was in "beta" or early access. Even bought the pack that gave me all current and upcoming heroes because I believed in the project. Played the game quite a bit, found a few heroes I really liked, but eventually stopped playing. Not because of balance or Hero diversity, but because the animations and spells feel so little impactful. Autoattack champions feel "clunky" and their animations even worse. Fixing this now would require a lot of effort but if they'd put some more work into sound design and animations early I probably would still be playing.
An example of what I mean is Thor, just look how little impact the ult feels like it has, then look at for example Galio in league of legends. You can make animations VFX and SFX be really good without getting too much clutter.
As a player who has over 4k hours on it I can say smite is dead...last year and half I need to play main(s) to win since mm is trash,metas are horrible and game itself is running with common bugs over 2+ years with new bugs..."but you can play for fun"
No I can't...I know how to play all gods I'm mobile with picks but do I want to lose over 5 games while going only one positive in team?
No. :)
Smite was best in the year 2017 there was balance and constant content know we rarely get gods on when we do we get uninteresting basic trash like Arthur this lack of content and the fact that Hi-Rez LITERALLY DOWNGRADED the conquest map is the factors that caused me to stop playing the game I I used to be able to play every single day
Given what I experienced during Season 5 in several modes, not surprising Smite PC is going down in pop, starting tomorrow I am off MOBAs for the year maybe longer myself.
I do think they have some issues given 2 other factors not mentioned.
1 - number of League teams are smaller for S6 means less money that Hi-Rez has to pay out, if they are doing fine why shrink the money paid out?
2 - enabling cross-play to me means there is a playerbase shrinkage somewhere.
I loved smite. I had an account sense day one one PC. But i will never touch this game again. A few months back, my account got hacked into. Someone changed my email and password. It took Hi-Rez over a .month to respond to my email about getting my account back. Just to inform me, for security reasons they are permanently banning my account because they thought I was "sharing" my account. Then stopped replying to my emails. I ALOT of time and money into my account. Never been report or had one single negitive remark on my account. Their Customer Service is utter trash. I understand it's a Free To Play Game. But they have a massive fan and player base. The game as a whole, is alot of fun and worth playing. But after what they put me through. I refuse to support this game or ever play again
Smite is being cannibalized by Hi-Rez with all the skins. Sure, they need to make money as an F2P game, but the fact is it's been almost a full year and a half since you had directly purchasable skins outside of the Odyssey. I don't want to buy a 800 gem bundle with a bunch of shit I don't want just for the 300 gem skin I do want. I don't want to roll 1 in 40 400gem chests for the -one- skin I want.
Smite is a really good game. But with all the advertisement for their pay to play skins (which is understandable because it’s a free game) it turns my mood around, of course you could grind daily rewards for gems. I very much like MOBA’s with third person perspective.(ex:paragon) and with new characters soon like Merlin and King Arthur, I think this game has a lot more gods and content to go through before it runs dry
If i still gamed on PC i would be playing Diablo 2 LOD and nothing else.
My wife has hijacked our Switch for Stardew Valley. Better believe im going hard on Switch when it drops. Finally, i will be the Smurf!
I like the game, but, some things just disgust me.
Like toxic comunity, matchmaking, not enough interesting god realeases (I mean fun new gods), skins get more expensive each patch, unbalances, bugs, new menu style, new queue type (countdown), and I think there are more....
I mean I eant the game to grow, obviously, is my most played game, but lets be clear, they are making the old players want to quit playing...
Ok...so what may be in decline for pc is rising for çonsole because console has no other competitors.
(Keep That in mind, other MOBAS)
As a 3rd person shooter MOBA, smite is the option. They need to assert dominance by allowing smite to be the only cross platform game to get updates along with pc. I think every ps4 or xbox can have an update sooner than pc if hirez would realize every console is the same, and every pc is going to be slightly different..
Meh, im sure it's way more difficult than that, but it's still feasible.
I started playing smite 6 years ago and the game is now completely dead in Australia. It is literally impossible to play, and I wonder why it's dead? Because Hi-Rez doesn't give a shit about the quality of their game. They can't balance anything properly and they just keep releasing skin after skin instead of actually focusing on making the game good.
Hi-Rez get on top of your shit please, I'd love to play your game but you make it impossible.
I had to stop playing SMITE for a long, long time because it suddenly just stopped launching on my computer. I tried everything. I uninstalled/ reinstalled in various ways, I restarted my PC many times, I cleared old cache and files out that could have been conflicting with it, I turned the firewall on and off, I even resorted to putting the thing back to factory settings but damn absolutely nothing worked. Now I'm getting a new PC I think it's about time I got back into it
Smite was slowing getting on my nerves with the chest system & greed. Plus the long wait times, constant "balancing", & blah blah blah. Then after discovering SpaceLords this past month, Smite lost my interest. On the scale from 1 to 10, my interest level in Smite now is like 1.75. Honestly. I don't care like I used to. I just log in every now and then for favor & gems (most of the time losing track & not able to get gems). I log in also to check out new content & play a few games of co op, then off to another game.
Only reason I prefer console over PC is the fact that I can be laying in bed and game at the same time. Now that SMITE is coming to Switch and can now take a shit and queue ranked at the same time, though the issue comes when its time to wipe. Enemy is gonna be doing Firegiant while Im over here rushing to wipe ass, as my Team is dead, spamming 'Woohoo' or 'You Rock' 'Cancel That'
I HOPE SMITE DOES NOT DIE !!!
:C
im just now starting to get the hang of it
and its fun and cool
and the skins are awesome... so... yeah i bought many
XD
In OCE atm you can only get joust games and occasionally arena/conquest at peak time and days. The main issue is the number of players because a lot stopped playing in OCE (including myself) after they removed multi-queue and found it impossible to get games further making the player base even smaller. Crossplay will hopefully revitalize the player base.
I would really love for this game to continue to grow... but in order to do that they do need to make a few changes... not necessarily balance changes or anything because as I see it we don't have a lot of bad gods anymore... and there aren't as much OP gods as there used to be (except for freya and maybe artio.) I'd just like a revert to the ui… that most likely won't happen though. And i'd like PS4 to be on cross platform as well (even though Sony hates us gg bois xD) All i'm saying is that I do love this game and I don't want to see it die especially since season 6 is just around the corner. Another thing i'd like so see them improve on in season 6 that doublej brought to attention to kinda make MOTD more fun for people. I think that would be really cool and a good excuse to log in everyday just to see what new fun interesting game mode is there. I don't know but I'm just saying they do need to make a few changes before this game is perfect (it's almost there just needs another push ^ ^)