He's the chief 'rep of his father's Imperium, the last of his living sons (at this point), and must make an example of the attitudes that will reflect poorly on his good will. And, Robu was The Host of this gathering. If anyone has bad manners, he'll take it from there... *And if Everyone has bad manners,* he will literally cut it out with a tongue similar to that of his Father's flaming sword.
Guilliman currently has the "Perturabo Effect" where he is usually the only fully compotent person in the room at all times. Thats why he's so likable.
Perty went from one of my least favorite primarchs to one of my favorites after I learned he was pretty much the only person responsible for keeping the Heresy going because of how incompetent the rest of his brothers were. Also the Iron Cage is one of the coolest moments in the series with him finally crippling the Imperial Fists.
@@bkr1895 The Siege went something like. Alparius tries to play stupid games on pluto, Dorn kills him Lorgar tried to usurp Horus, got exiled from the siege. Curze was MIA. Magnus was having a DID episode. Angron was murdering everyone he saw regardless of loyalty. Fulgrim was only ever accidentally useful. Horus was preparing for the showdown with the Emperor. Pert and Morty were the only ones actually doing their job. Pert was in charge of the siege until Horus got Jealous that Pert might not even need him to take the palace so he Kicked Perturabo out and put Mortarion in charge instead. Then Mortarion had a fight with Jaghatai and finished the Siege, then the vengeful spirit gamble happened.
@@whitewall2253 And now imagine, how it could've been, if Perty and Rogal would've been able to get past their differences and worked together at the siege. Every battle would be a Hammer and Anvil situation, where the Fists are the Anvil and the Iron Warriors are the Hammer. It also could change the final battle between the Emperor and Horus
Robute's biggest power play against the High Lords of Tera was when he wiped the board clean and started from scratch. It was detailed in Watcher's of the Throne: In the Regent's Shadow. It amazes me how horrifying corrupt the High Lords and the bureaucracy of the empire had become considering how brazen they were in defying the orders of a Primarch. They thought him a myth and a fairy tale until the bodies started dropping lol.
10k years made them complacent and relax. It was all well and good when the Primarchs were just symbols of legend to be used to manipulate the populace. So them coming back is a Utter fever dream for them
He didn't wipe the board clean, but he did replace 5 of the 12 the most powerful members, return previously faded power to some and also replaced a bunch of lower ranking high lords and dignitaries. He managed this not through execution, because it might have caused a civil war, but by forcing those 5 into retirement or reassignment and probably unwanted close surveillance . So he did quite a bit.
Yeah, that's what I was Thinking . High lords were brought to heel because Gulliman came back. I'm sure they hate every moment of this. There whole perceptions and assumptions of the Galaxy and there place in it, destroyed. And they can't do anything about it but take it .
High Lords are replacable. They are easy to replace as it is to put on a new pair of shoes. The High Lords do nothing. They are basically figureheads pretending they do something. When it is the clerks that do all the work and the real heroes of the Imperium. Without them. The Empire would have fallen. Their numbers are in the billions, and yet they process data and information in the TRILLIONS.
I have a feeling that sometime soon, perhaps when the imperium gathers enough strength to merge back together/both primarchs meet _some_ part of the higher imperium will revolt against our guiliman being sick of his rule, but thats just a theory of mine 🤷♂️
@@Doc-randomplay ? The imperium now prosper because him , worlds now get the recourses they need instead of beeing ignored for the more "influential" worlds , best thing about Gilliman beeing a politician , you can't bribe him , the only ones who might revolt is some of the uper class , and we all know what happened with the previous lords of terra (the peak of the upper class) for rebeling , if a part of the planetar gouverners band togheter against him it would be a mild inconvenience at best
Little did the High Lords know, the Emperor of Mankind didn't really want to kill all Xenos. The Eldar are among the Xenos that he would gladly make friends with. Not to mention before the Heresy, there is a section in the Imperial Palace that is designated for Xenos ambassadors.
The hatred for xenos comes from the aftermath of the cybernetic revolt. The men of iron attacked all sentient life, and many xenos wanted revenge against humanity for creating them, hunting and purging many human colonies while they were still weak. After that humanity had a general disdain for alien species, that coupled with the emperor's "join me or die" policies only further confirmed their hatred.
Illyane Nastase: Thank you grandfather Guilliman. You honour me even considering one of your sons is my literal father. 😊 Guilliman: Sure, su- YOU WHAT?!
@@thalesvinicius2571 if I can better serve the Emperor, then I will obey the Lord Primarch's command and ally with the Xenos to fight the Great Enemy without question or hesitation. Only in death does duty end.
I wish soon the imperium can make alliance with the T'au . Me personally I'm a T'au fan and I wish to see guilliman and commander Farsight make a alliance, while guilliman seeing humans under commander farsight enclave worlds 🌎 being treated very good and abit envious about their better conditions.
@@VA_Nightshade Same by the Grand Master of the oficio assassinorum, he is somewhere in that room thinking:" please, I want to see if I or Guilliman are quicker in ending one of you"
For me in my head canon I always thought Guilmain was the ONE primarch or at least one of the only ones that the Eldar NEVER played Eldar games with, the others they might manipulate or lead by the nose to get what they want but not Guilmain hes the one that when they want an alliance or need something and cant afford to wait they come right up to him and lay it on the table in as direct a fashion as possible for them
Yeah because they can't win against gman with his logistics. Horus took heavy losses trying to destroy a craftworld for some reason during the Great Crusade. Gman as far I know never really bothered them unless they did the screwing first besides the primarchs are basically the humans versions of phoenix lords that's not to be understated either.
I don't think that the Minotaurs will be truly helpful against Guilliman, the Ultramarines and a large swathe of Ultramarine successor chapters that would come to his aid. Besides, facing off against Guilliman, that has been given the sword of the Emperor by his father and at one point was even possessed by Him, I really don't think there'd be any Minotaurs left at the end of this escapade.
I first got into the hobby early-mid 2010s as a child. I did NOT forsee Guilleman becoming this much of a fan favourite and i love how much things are progressing
The Imperium having the Aeldar as allies would be so clutch. They are the faction most suited on eliminating Sla'anesh. The Imperium has a huge and vast resource and power to bolster and complement the Aeldar's.
I'm not immensely aware of Aeldar lore, but aren't they at risk of just straight up having thier soul snatched when they die? that might be the drukari, I know it's one of them
@@Lunalander226it’s true of all the Eldar, they just have different methods of dealing with it. The Asuryani, the Craftworlders, basically have to chill out and cultivate severe autism to ensure that a rock absorbs their soul instantly when they die, so they can be plugged into the psychic mainframe of their Craftworld. Drukhari just torture people to stop being soul-drained, and have their scientists clone them if they are killed. And Harlequins become one with their clown god in death, so they don’t have to fear death at all.
Here's the problem: They'd have no reason to keep the alliance when the threat of Slaanesh is gone. Given their history of fucking over humanity which began during the age of strife, it'd be foolish to trust them so wholeheartedly.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM they never fucked over humanity during the age of strife. It was written that xenos races aggressed humanity during that period, but it was never specified which ones. As far as I know, the Aeldari didn't give a damn about humanity before the Great Crusade, especially before the birth of Slaanesh, when their power was so great that they literally used wars with Orks as a form of distraction.
And not only that but also having to play with their rules too, because if he doesnt the best case scenario is hes branded a heretic by the insanely zealous and corrupt megalomaniacs around him, or the worst case - shatters the imperium from the inside by mistake. Hes got to work with them, and play a long with the whole "you dad is a God" bullshit that he knows is not only untrue but he never wanted (allegedly - because he was reeeeeeeally bad at not giving off "im a god vibes" lol). and all these idiots hes dealing with are also just completely unreasonable.
These are the ones that replaced the ones he purged: when he first came back, he basically went to the high lords and said "hey, I'm changing some thing around." They didn't like that, so they sent their centurion space marines after him. Some high lords were killed. Others were thrown to the street stripped of all wealth and power.
Humans with power will let worlds burn before they humble themselves. Tyranids and chaos at the door, still those highlords can't see the bigger picture.
Gulliman is destroying there whole understanding of the imperium. Now there not the most important people anymore and have to follow Gulliman's lead. Being treated like unruly children. They hate this so much
@@dejannincic9671From what I can see, it depends on what faction of each group you are talking about. I don't know 40k inside and out, but I'm pretty sure there are factions within most of the races that could ally safely and effectively with the Imperium. Even the orcs, after a fashion. Though that would be mostly convincing them that the Imperium can bring them to a better fight than the Inperium can give them.
A murmur went around the room: The Master of the Administratum: Do these eldar need air air to breathe? I thought we banned the breathing of air last Tuesday? The Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard: I asked our Guards to stop breathing so much, need to keep the best air for ourselves. Just in case it runs out. The Grand Provost Marshal: I AM THE LAW! Fabricator General: You should just replace your lungs with respirators 🎶 Kitten: Oh emperor, how did I get roped into this? (ANGRY CAT NOISES)
With chaos and tyranids running ever more rampant I believe that the imperium may need to swallow its pride. It isn’t a sign of weakness to forge alliances with others. I believe an imperium/eldar alliance could be a force to be reckoned with and with the blue man at the helm idk man but I have this feeling it may be a possibility, and this is coming from a loyalist. Shout out to the giant, tiberos the red wake.
Guilliman is doing good by making a truce with the Eldar cause if the races do not work together the Chaos and Tyranid will destroy them all and then the Orcs needs to be dealt later
So did the Commodore of the Navy. I hate agreeing with the High Lords, but the Eldar have proven time and time again that they aren't trustworthy, even after the Aeldari/Drukhari split.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Unfortunately, dealing with 1 group of Eldar does not mean you're talking with all the Eldar. Eldar of craft world A might be friendly to you Eldar of craft world B might be assholes attacking your ships on the other side of the galaxy.
@@bubusbus1 Yeah, the Imperium could probably get an alliance with the Craftworld Ulthwe (Guilliman think that Eldrad is the only Eldar in the universe to be trusted ^^). But with Biel-Tan? Not a chance XD
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Depends. We have bunch of craftworlds - every one independent from each other. Also let's be honest - regular ass human have hard time telling Eldars and Dark Eldars apart. Which is kinda silly, since one group is arrogant as fuck, although will kill you calmly, other is also arrogant as fuck but if they kill you, you'll be grateful to whatever god you believe in that it happened instead of them taking you for a trip to Camorragh. Also Dark Eldars probably cackle a lot.
Guilliman is really trying to do reasonable diplomacy which he was always built for but waa forbidden in old times from negotiating with aliens. What he could have accomplished had the Imperium sought alien allies in the Great Crusade.
Guilliman knows that a truce, even if a temporal one between eldar and human iis possible. He unfortunately also knows that on each side, many would cling to the lamest excuse to start killing each other
Some bloody how the distant pencil pusher during the Heresy is now the only one with both a functioning common sense and a bloody back bone. Blueberry king's return is literally the best thing that could have happened to the Imperium.
Eldar have perfect control over their body motion and posture. The fact that he specifically made the kneel look hesitant means that he wanted Guilliman to know either he was uncomfortable or that he doesn't serve humans, but that he simply respects them.
I think it was less a message to Guilliman, and more to the High Lords. "I am exactly as unhappy to be here as you are to have me here. But, I'm here regardless, so the formalities must be obeyed. I will do your silly gestures of respect and submission, and you will... You're... not even going to pretend to listen. Of course not."
Imagine if Guilliman is hot headed, those high lords would be "peacefully removed from their position" this includes firing squads or being burned by melta cannons 😅
Not sure when in the timeline this is but more importantly has word reached the imperium proper that the Lion has awoken and returned? It would be nice to hear what the leaders of the imperium think but also hear what The Avenging Son thinks as well.
The Eldar and Mankind have to team up, our fates are intertwined and we need all the allies we can get (plus I want Robute X Yvraine to be canon so bad literally would be the coolest power couple in fiction)
@@ambion19 Star Wars had that before Disney . . . man . . . I just made myself miss the Mara Jade and Luke Skywalker romance. And Ferus Olin and his husband . . . and Revan and Bastila . . . fuck you Mickey. Anyway, even Warhammer Fantasy had some serious power couples like: Tyrion and Alarielle, Teclis and any human he came across, Karl Franz and his warhammer, Vlad and Isabella von Karstein (aka "somehow the healthiest relationship in Warhammer"), Gottrek and Grungni, Felix and that one Tomb Queen who wanted to jump his bones, Malekith and Mora- For legal reasons my lawyer has advised that I don't finish that sentence.
I agree that they need to hear the Eldar emissary out first but the navy officer did raise a good point, they'll require a truce between the Imperium and the Eldar before things progress
God people are dumb by that logic the Eldear could bring up Chaos Cultists or Chaos Primarchs too and Space Marines there’s good and bad people to every faction
Do also remember that Illiyan Nastase is the half-Eldar half-Human chief librarian of the Ultramarines. He's more than entitled to speak as an ambassador of Eldar people.
I mean the Eldar is already being somewhat forced to be cordial to humans hell he even kneeled before the primarch if anything their should have been some sort of amusement from the humans. Sometimes I wonder if/when will the constant forceful compliaces of the laws enacted or just doing what Guilliman wants will bite him in the ass. Then there seems to be also a preference for transhumans to rule over regular humans as seen in the reforging of the 500 worlds of Ultramar.
@@Soundwave142Eldar generally move differently to humans, a kneel is probably just a clumsy and awkward pose to them, but he adopted it because it’s a sign of respect that the humans would understand.
An eldar trying to bow to a group humans? That is a very rare and unique moment. Guilliman was right to pursue an alliance with the Eldar. The Imperium is full of enemies on every front, so is the situation of the Eldar. An alliance is the most logical thing.
Immensely. The Aeldari have some insane tech and hundreds of extremely skilled seers, plus a whole planet-sized library containing every bit of knowledge there is to know on chaos. Their problem is minuscule quantity, with the Imperium to cover for that, and the Aeldari’s knowledge on how to deal with Chaos, both would benefit greatly.
The high lords also treated the mechanicum with disdain (post heresy) until they marched a fracking titan up to the chamber and reminded them why their alliance was needed for survival.
Folks talking aboit guilliman, but no one talking about the representative of the eldar getting down on a knee to show respect to someone who isnt of their own kind. Especially since how so far up their space elf butt that they are, it showed humility to kneel before someone they once considered beneath them, and guilliman likewise being courteous is truly wonderful, but guilliman being a peak statesman, hes forte was always about diplomacy
Roboute Guilliman, Improving Human-Eldar Relations since M41! (Or as we call it, “Claiming Alien Territory in the Name of The Imperium” if you catch my drift)
Игры
Without Guilliman usual self control the eardrums of some high lords would have bursted
*Girlyman
That's not a problem, they can replace them with bionics
@@justinianthegreat1444 Adeptus Mechanicus liked that
Some people probably think this is a joke or hyperbole but a Primarch could easily do this with their enhanced vocal chords.
Noise Marines somewhere rubbing their hands together
A Custodian Laughter is enough to render someone deaf temporarily, imagine a Primarch screaming, dawg
Not so much them screaming, but as to HOW loud they choose to scream.
Well, most of the High Lords are ancient, and augmented almost to mechanicus extent, so i guess it's alright.
FUS!
@@bengunn9670how ancient we talking?
@@hell1942 400-500 years for mortals, thousands for admechs and custodes.
Being the only reasonable man in the room must be taxing on the old blueberry. He needs his brothers back, and soon
That meme of guilliman smoking is quite how i imagine him each 5 minutes when someone brings him a new crapstorm.
Majority of his brothers weren't reasonable at all, loyalists included. 😂
@@darksider2903well, Jaghati and Dorn could probably help with how this sh!thole of an empire is
*Rogal Dorn has entered the chat*
Guilliman: “Oh ffs”
@darksider2903 his eldest brother, the 1st son, seems to have grown out of his angry, edgy, teenage phase so maybe he can help out too.
"SILENCE!" - said guilliman calmly
YVRAINE, DID YOU PUT MY NAME IN THE GOBLET OF "WHO WE WILL WAKE FROM STASIS FIRST"?!
Dorn: My Normal calm was... disrupted.
@@Finalhellmaster I went looking for this and you did not disappoint thank you😂
Paul Muad'Dip Usul Atreides: 😅 "Shit, you kinda bested me there by a single second..."
I'M POINTING THE WAY
Man I love Guilliman. He does not take shit from anybody. Ally or enemy
He's the chief 'rep of his father's Imperium, the last of his living sons (at this point), and must make an example of the attitudes that will reflect poorly on his good will.
And, Robu was The Host of this gathering. If anyone has bad manners, he'll take it from there...
*And if Everyone has bad manners,* he will literally cut it out with a tongue similar to that of his Father's flaming sword.
@@jimvenanzio6561 Lion?
@@NoOrdinaryPeople”at this time”
@Anassuir oh, is the Lion's awakening not current? It's cannon, but it hasn't happened yet?
@@cheesegoblin8850 maybe this is before lion awakening?
"My Elf Gf brought me back, i won't tolerate any elf slander from now on" - Robute Guilliman
You know Guilliman probably have a cock the size of an elephant dlck
Yeah what he said!
*points at drukari *
@@austinbutcher8106 That one tech priest that has a drukari gf: **agressive computer noises**
I mean even he knows not to wander into a Black Templar camp
Guilliman currently has the "Perturabo Effect" where he is usually the only fully compotent person in the room at all times. Thats why he's so likable.
Perty went from one of my least favorite primarchs to one of my favorites after I learned he was pretty much the only person responsible for keeping the Heresy going because of how incompetent the rest of his brothers were. Also the Iron Cage is one of the coolest moments in the series with him finally crippling the Imperial Fists.
@@bkr1895
The Siege went something like.
Alparius tries to play stupid games on pluto, Dorn kills him
Lorgar tried to usurp Horus, got exiled from the siege.
Curze was MIA.
Magnus was having a DID episode.
Angron was murdering everyone he saw regardless of loyalty.
Fulgrim was only ever accidentally useful.
Horus was preparing for the showdown with the Emperor.
Pert and Morty were the only ones actually doing their job. Pert was in charge of the siege until Horus got Jealous that Pert might not even need him to take the palace so he Kicked Perturabo out and put Mortarion in charge instead.
Then Mortarion had a fight with Jaghatai and finished the Siege, then the vengeful spirit gamble happened.
@@bkr1895if i was gonna play chaos it would be iron warriors 100%....
@@whitewall2253 And now imagine, how it could've been, if Perty and Rogal would've been able to get past their differences and worked together at the siege. Every battle would be a Hammer and Anvil situation, where the Fists are the Anvil and the Iron Warriors are the Hammer.
It also could change the final battle between the Emperor and Horus
@@Banthisyoutube-zs6sxpersonally began playing iron warriors for this reason. They’re a chaos faction that ironically is actually organised
Robute's biggest power play against the High Lords of Tera was when he wiped the board clean and started from scratch. It was detailed in Watcher's of the Throne: In the Regent's Shadow. It amazes me how horrifying corrupt the High Lords and the bureaucracy of the empire had become considering how brazen they were in defying the orders of a Primarch. They thought him a myth and a fairy tale until the bodies started dropping lol.
10k years made them complacent and relax. It was all well and good when the Primarchs were just symbols of legend to be used to manipulate the populace. So them coming back is a Utter fever dream for them
Let's do this by the book and take him out
Gman: b*tch i am the book
He didn't wipe the board clean, but he did replace 5 of the 12 the most powerful members, return previously faded power to some and also replaced a bunch of lower ranking high lords and dignitaries. He managed this not through execution, because it might have caused a civil war, but by forcing those 5 into retirement or reassignment and probably unwanted close surveillance . So he did quite a bit.
Didn't the Assassinorum kill around 6 or 7 of them, and it was revealed that Guilliman either planned this, or at least expected it?
@@omnilisk279 He did commit executions, especially of those that tried to off him.
Lord Chad of the imperium, Roboute Chadman, Lord of Chadmar, The Avenging Chad
Rowboat Girlyman Princess of The Ultrasmurfs. Big Grandpa Smurf
@@2013elemanta
The King Blueberry
Chadmarch of the Chadmarines
@@tdpuuhailee8222 the Avenging Taxman
The big blue guy
"without his master i would still be trapped in stasis"
high lord in his mind: more reason to hate him
Yeah, that's what I was Thinking . High lords were brought to heel because Gulliman came back. I'm sure they hate every moment of this. There whole perceptions and assumptions of the Galaxy and there place in it, destroyed. And they can't do anything about it but take it .
@@spottedslash4256that's why the lot of them got assassinated not long after his return
High Lords are replacable. They are easy to replace as it is to put on a new pair of shoes. The High Lords do nothing. They are basically figureheads pretending they do something. When it is the clerks that do all the work and the real heroes of the Imperium. Without them. The Empire would have fallen. Their numbers are in the billions, and yet they process data and information in the TRILLIONS.
I have a feeling that sometime soon, perhaps when the imperium gathers enough strength to merge back together/both primarchs meet _some_ part of the higher imperium will revolt against our guiliman being sick of his rule, but thats just a theory of mine 🤷♂️
@@Doc-randomplay ? The imperium now prosper because him , worlds now get the recourses they need instead of beeing ignored for the more "influential" worlds , best thing about Gilliman beeing a politician , you can't bribe him , the only ones who might revolt is some of the uper class , and we all know what happened with the previous lords of terra (the peak of the upper class) for rebeling , if a part of the planetar gouverners band togheter against him it would be a mild inconvenience at best
Little did the High Lords know, the Emperor of Mankind didn't really want to kill all Xenos. The Eldar are among the Xenos that he would gladly make friends with. Not to mention before the Heresy, there is a section in the Imperial Palace that is designated for Xenos ambassadors.
It is Canon that the Emperor built the webway to quench his thirst for thicc Eldar booty.
Not to mention, they are probably the faction with the most knowledge on how to eliminate Slaanesh.... given they gave birth to her
@@leibniz4455they are the faction with the most knowledge of chaos period. Probably even more than CSM. They do own the Black Library after all.
Oh, good to know. Thanks!
The hatred for xenos comes from the aftermath of the cybernetic revolt. The men of iron attacked all sentient life, and many xenos wanted revenge against humanity for creating them, hunting and purging many human colonies while they were still weak. After that humanity had a general disdain for alien species, that coupled with the emperor's "join me or die" policies only further confirmed their hatred.
High Lords: Xeno Scum!
Rowboat Gorillaman: Silence! Don't any of you talk shit about my girlfriend's servant!
*Girlfriends Servant
@@2013elemanta I was thinking of yvraine I forgot her servant.
@@2013elemanta Implying he only has only one of either
Illyane Nastase: Thank you grandfather Guilliman. You honour me even considering one of your sons is my literal father. 😊
Guilliman: Sure, su- YOU WHAT?!
He's an emissary of Eldrad, not Yvraine!!
“Never thought I’d die fighting side by side with a Eldar”
“How about fighting side by side with a friend Monkeigh?”
“Aye, I could do that”
Commissar and inquisitor at hearing distance: " Oh do you?"
@@thalesvinicius2571 The commissar and inquisitors can sück me from the back I take my orders from The Avenging Son
@@ohma3305the only true proper response
@@thalesvinicius2571 if I can better serve the Emperor, then I will obey the Lord Primarch's command and ally with the Xenos to fight the Great Enemy without question or hesitation. Only in death does duty end.
Ironic calling a person a monkey and a friend in the same sentence
I accept the Aeldari alliance with the Imperium. Heresy that may sound, but f that, I am with the Primarch.
"F that"
And so Bobby B did
I also accept the alliance, but the inquisition requires that I say you are an heretic
Oh give it time im sure the Eldar will fk it up somehow like they usualy do
@@dejannincic9671 Guillimen has a plan. He always has a plan.
I wish soon the imperium can make alliance with the T'au . Me personally I'm a T'au fan and I wish to see guilliman and commander Farsight make a alliance, while guilliman seeing humans under commander farsight enclave worlds 🌎 being treated very good and abit envious about their better conditions.
I dare those High Lords to even utter another whisper. 😂
Guilliman was hoping they would. He would love an excuse to replace more of them.
@@VA_Nightshade Same by the Grand Master of the oficio assassinorum, he is somewhere in that room thinking:" please, I want to see if I or Guilliman are quicker in ending one of you"
It was at this moment he knew that he fucked up
That one high lord in the back:
"I wish you were still in stasis"
Guilliman: "The fck you say?! Hows bout you come up here and say it for all the class to hear, Kevin"
God, I can only imagine the grey hair Guilliman must have. Not from old age but from being the only reasonable being in the galaxy.
He actually does notice he has grey hairs during the Dark Imperium trilogy!
Yuraine:
You changed your hair colour? (Is he copying my?)
Guilliman: just work is stressful.
Guilliman after dealing with the high lords "i feel as old as Pertarabo after the Hurud"
@@blam320 His are probably not that visible for regular human's naked eye due to him being blonde.
Boy, the Farseer’s name is anything BUT a subtle nod to the first edition.
I love it though, he's like the second or third named Ultramarine ever
Guilliman: "Will you people be adults for FIVE MINUTES?!"
For me in my head canon I always thought Guilmain was the ONE primarch or at least one of the only ones that the Eldar NEVER played Eldar games with, the others they might manipulate or lead by the nose to get what they want but not Guilmain
hes the one that when they want an alliance or need something and cant afford to wait they come right up to him and lay it on the table in as direct a fashion as possible for them
Yeah because they can't win against gman with his logistics. Horus took heavy losses trying to destroy a craftworld for some reason during the Great Crusade. Gman as far I know never really bothered them unless they did the screwing first besides the primarchs are basically the humans versions of phoenix lords that's not to be understated either.
The Eldar want to not go extinct and they'll do whatever it takes for that to happen.
Even if that means fighting with humans.
because he is the play
Bro has 10000 years of angry dad energy saved up, bold of them to try to bitch and moan in front of him.
Yeah dude guilliman yelling at me would vacate my bowel’s forthwith
Laxitive? no thanks apothicary, i'll just insult the eldar to Lord Guilliman, that will clear me up.
I LOVE the theme of commnading voice. If their hatred for the xenos felt palpable, his voice felt nothing less than extremely tangible
The fact that they brought back the original Half Eldar Half Human character and made him a full Eldar and canon again.
Kinda wish he was still Half-Eldar. Would have made things all the more hectic and tense.
@@ColdNorth0628 And vaguely amusing...
Guilliman has had a real glow up in my eyes in recent years
Hearing the son of your god scream at you must be terrifying
it’s like jesus himself pulled up and said “yo, chill the fuck out dipshit.”
I wonder what Guilliman would do to have a leashed Curze at his disposal at times like this
YES.
Afterwards:
High Lord: Get me the phone number of the Minotaurs, now!
I don't think that the Minotaurs will be truly helpful against Guilliman, the Ultramarines and a large swathe of Ultramarine successor chapters that would come to his aid.
Besides, facing off against Guilliman, that has been given the sword of the Emperor by his father and at one point was even possessed by Him, I really don't think there'd be any Minotaurs left at the end of this escapade.
The Minotaurs would be brave until they saw it was a LITERAL Loyal Primarch. Especially when he just casually calls on all of the blueberry legions.
@@Schnittertm1 Maybe, but there's more than one way to peel a heretic, and the High Lords are nothing if not ultimately devious.
Gulliman *sigh* : "Master of the assassinorum, please do that shit again."
@@chrisdufresne9359 And chapters from his brother legions joining in cause they know their Primarchs would want them to help him.
Guilliman is the best primarch when he gets mad
Real recognizes real. Gigachad Guilliman just doing Gigachad things.
I first got into the hobby early-mid 2010s as a child. I did NOT forsee Guilleman becoming this much of a fan favourite and i love how much things are progressing
The Imperium having the Aeldar as allies would be so clutch. They are the faction most suited on eliminating Sla'anesh. The Imperium has a huge and vast resource and power to bolster and complement the Aeldar's.
I'm not immensely aware of Aeldar lore, but aren't they at risk of just straight up having thier soul snatched when they die? that might be the drukari, I know it's one of them
@@Lunalander226it’s true of all the Eldar, they just have different methods of dealing with it.
The Asuryani, the Craftworlders, basically have to chill out and cultivate severe autism to ensure that a rock absorbs their soul instantly when they die, so they can be plugged into the psychic mainframe of their Craftworld. Drukhari just torture people to stop being soul-drained, and have their scientists clone them if they are killed. And Harlequins become one with their clown god in death, so they don’t have to fear death at all.
Here's the problem: They'd have no reason to keep the alliance when the threat of Slaanesh is gone. Given their history of fucking over humanity which began during the age of strife, it'd be foolish to trust them so wholeheartedly.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM they never fucked over humanity during the age of strife. It was written that xenos races aggressed humanity during that period, but it was never specified which ones. As far as I know, the Aeldari didn't give a damn about humanity before the Great Crusade, especially before the birth of Slaanesh, when their power was so great that they literally used wars with Orks as a form of distraction.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Other threats to the craftworlds still exist outside of Slaanesh. Chaos is just one side of the die.
"MY WIFEY IS ONE OF THEM!" - Roundhouse Godzilla man, Probably
That’s why I like Guiliman he’s no nonsense and does not any shite whether they be friends or foes is respected by both
G-man having that *my dog won't stop barking while I'm talking to someone important moment*
Jesus, imagine being G man and having to work with these people 24/7
And not only that but also having to play with their rules too, because if he doesnt the best case scenario is hes branded a heretic by the insanely zealous and corrupt megalomaniacs around him, or the worst case - shatters the imperium from the inside by mistake.
Hes got to work with them, and play a long with the whole "you dad is a God" bullshit that he knows is not only untrue but he never wanted (allegedly - because he was reeeeeeeally bad at not giving off "im a god vibes" lol). and all these idiots hes dealing with are also just completely unreasonable.
These are the ones that replaced the ones he purged: when he first came back, he basically went to the high lords and said "hey, I'm changing some thing around." They didn't like that, so they sent their centurion space marines after him. Some high lords were killed. Others were thrown to the street stripped of all wealth and power.
in my head that is the real canon for the Horus Heresy... The constant bitching and hindrances from petty burocrats drove him mad
are we Sure Guilliman isn't the favorite son? By the Emperor i love this man
I can only imagine what they would say if their lord commander guilliman was in a Relationship with yvraine or was going to marry her
Slaanesh is the problem
imagining abelard in the same room as guilliman is hilarious
Humans with power will let worlds burn before they humble themselves. Tyranids and chaos at the door, still those highlords can't see the bigger picture.
Oh trust me the Eldar, Tao and Necrons are prety much the same
Ah. Like irl. Hah.
Gulliman is destroying there whole understanding of the imperium. Now there not the most important people anymore and have to follow Gulliman's lead. Being treated like unruly children. They hate this so much
@@dejannincic9671From what I can see, it depends on what faction of each group you are talking about. I don't know 40k inside and out, but I'm pretty sure there are factions within most of the races that could ally safely and effectively with the Imperium. Even the orcs, after a fashion. Though that would be mostly convincing them that the Imperium can bring them to a better fight than the Inperium can give them.
@@dr.insanity9087 Those factions you speak of are few and far between, though. And even then, the exceptions just prove the rule even more.
G man brought the hammer down swiftly! And rightfully so. I appreciate the transylvanian accent our eldar ambassador had tho. Not the most soothing
A murmur went around the room:
The Master of the Administratum: Do these eldar need air air to breathe? I thought we banned the breathing of air last Tuesday?
The Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard: I asked our Guards to stop breathing so much, need to keep the best air for ourselves. Just in case it runs out.
The Grand Provost Marshal: I AM THE LAW!
Fabricator General: You should just replace your lungs with respirators 🎶
Kitten: Oh emperor, how did I get roped into this? (ANGRY CAT NOISES)
With chaos and tyranids running ever more rampant I believe that the imperium may need to swallow its pride. It isn’t a sign of weakness to forge alliances with others. I believe an imperium/eldar alliance could be a force to be reckoned with and with the blue man at the helm idk man but I have this feeling it may be a possibility, and this is coming from a loyalist. Shout out to the giant, tiberos the red wake.
Guilliman is doing good by making a truce with the Eldar cause if the races do not work together the Chaos and Tyranid will destroy them all and then the Orcs needs to be dealt later
Guilliman had a point, it was the Eldar who awoke him from stasis. So his blasting of the High Lord's eardrums was completely reasonable.
So did the Commodore of the Navy. I hate agreeing with the High Lords, but the Eldar have proven time and time again that they aren't trustworthy, even after the Aeldari/Drukhari split.
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Unfortunately, dealing with 1 group of Eldar does not mean you're talking with all the Eldar.
Eldar of craft world A might be friendly to you
Eldar of craft world B might be assholes attacking your ships on the other side of the galaxy.
@@bubusbus1 Yeah, the Imperium could probably get an alliance with the Craftworld Ulthwe (Guilliman think that Eldrad is the only Eldar in the universe to be trusted ^^).
But with Biel-Tan? Not a chance XD
@@krankarvolund7771eh Illayandan?
@@ULTIMATZEKROM Depends. We have bunch of craftworlds - every one independent from each other. Also let's be honest - regular ass human have hard time telling Eldars and Dark Eldars apart.
Which is kinda silly, since one group is arrogant as fuck, although will kill you calmly, other is also arrogant as fuck but if they kill you, you'll be grateful to whatever god you believe in that it happened instead of them taking you for a trip to Camorragh. Also Dark Eldars probably cackle a lot.
Guilliman is really trying to do reasonable diplomacy which he was always built for but waa forbidden in old times from negotiating with aliens. What he could have accomplished had the Imperium sought alien allies in the Great Crusade.
If it wasn't for his Eldar wife, he wouldn't be there 😂😂😂😂
The Lion when he sees Guilliman hanging out with Eldar: Ew, brother ew. What is this brother
I like that Guilliman truly appreciates all the help he can get, even from the xenos factions of 40k...
Guilliman knows that a truce, even if a temporal one between eldar and human iis possible.
He unfortunately also knows that on each side, many would cling to the lamest excuse to start killing each other
Some bloody how the distant pencil pusher during the Heresy is now the only one with both a functioning common sense and a bloody back bone. Blueberry king's return is literally the best thing that could have happened to the Imperium.
Eldar have perfect control over their body motion and posture. The fact that he specifically made the kneel look hesitant means that he wanted Guilliman to know either he was uncomfortable or that he doesn't serve humans, but that he simply respects them.
I think it was less a message to Guilliman, and more to the High Lords. "I am exactly as unhappy to be here as you are to have me here. But, I'm here regardless, so the formalities must be obeyed. I will do your silly gestures of respect and submission, and you will... You're... not even going to pretend to listen. Of course not."
Blue boy introduces his work friends to his GFs family and it doesn’t go well
Even I was silent with Guilliman's shout
Imagine if Guilliman is hot headed, those high lords would be "peacefully removed from their position" this includes firing squads or being burned by melta cannons 😅
Personally that's what Vulkan should've done yet didn't.
I like the conversations between Guilliman and Illiyan. Specially in the books written my guy Haley
Guilliman: Shut your goofy ahhes up! I do a lot of dumb stuff myself. You will not be the reason for another argument between me and Yvraine
High lords: "Xeno, Witch, (INSERT SLUR)!!"
Guiliman: "MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE IMPERIUM, THE ELDAR SAVED MY LIFE!!! So stfu and hear. him. OUT."
Not sure when in the timeline this is but more importantly has word reached the imperium proper that the Lion has awoken and returned? It would be nice to hear what the leaders of the imperium think but also hear what The Avenging Son thinks as well.
The Eldar and Mankind have to team up, our fates are intertwined and we need all the allies we can get (plus I want Robute X Yvraine to be canon so bad literally would be the coolest power couple in fiction)
In the grim dark of 40k can’t we have one moment of happiness. G-man needs to blow off a little steam, so let him have this.
I’m an Eldar fan, honestly, I see this as the one way GW will let us be cool again. So I’d fucken’ take it.
Every other hard hitting fantasy setting makes power couples work, come on gw do it
@@ambion19 Star Wars had that before Disney . . . man . . . I just made myself miss the Mara Jade and Luke Skywalker romance. And Ferus Olin and his husband . . . and Revan and Bastila . . . fuck you Mickey. Anyway, even Warhammer Fantasy had some serious power couples like: Tyrion and Alarielle, Teclis and any human he came across, Karl Franz and his warhammer, Vlad and Isabella von Karstein (aka "somehow the healthiest relationship in Warhammer"), Gottrek and Grungni, Felix and that one Tomb Queen who wanted to jump his bones, Malekith and Mora-
For legal reasons my lawyer has advised that I don't finish that sentence.
Roboute: Friendship is magic
High Lords: Magic is heresy!
I agree that they need to hear the Eldar emissary out first but the navy officer did raise a good point, they'll require a truce between the Imperium and the Eldar before things progress
Guilliman was like a dad telling his unruly kids off then
*"YALL ARE EMBARASSING ME IN FRONT OF MY GF'S FRIENDS! so STFU!"*
I can imagine Valoris sharing a look of pity at Guilliman in the high lord meetings.
God people are dumb by that logic the Eldear could bring up Chaos Cultists or Chaos Primarchs too and Space Marines there’s good and bad people to every faction
I will NOT accept Abelard slander
You know, if Gulliman could, I wonder what he would say to Sanguinious. Just from the end of the Heresy. Man, do I imagine he has regrets.
Bro had to stand up for his xeno inlaw 😂
Demons Run when the blueberry goes to war
It's wild to think that must of the imperium looks at all other xenos as a monolith when the imperium itself literally split in two
That's the essence of bigotry
In the fist edition this eldar name was the chief librarian of the ultramarines, and he was half eldar. This is a great attencion to detail.
Guilliman is that No nonsense maths teacher from Highschool lol
Do also remember that Illiyan Nastase is the half-Eldar half-Human chief librarian of the Ultramarines. He's more than entitled to speak as an ambassador of Eldar people.
I mean the Eldar is already being somewhat forced to be cordial to humans hell he even kneeled before the primarch if anything their should have been some sort of amusement from the humans.
Sometimes I wonder if/when will the constant forceful compliaces of the laws enacted or just doing what Guilliman wants will bite him in the ass. Then there seems to be also a preference for transhumans to rule over regular humans as seen in the reforging of the 500 worlds of Ultramar.
I imagine that when he was "forcing himself to kneel" is not because of shame but awkward because he did not really know how in a way.
@@Soundwave142Eldar generally move differently to humans, a kneel is probably just a clumsy and awkward pose to them, but he adopted it because it’s a sign of respect that the humans would understand.
I love what a deep cut Illiyanne Natasé is.
Along with his crew: Byornon Borgo, Johnnan Makainro, Peetee Samprase, Andras Agasee, Rogiero Federerh, Rafiel Natal, Novakon Djokovitchin.
🎉 I like the way you spell
“Silence!”, Guilliman said calmly.
When i heard 𝙎𝙄𝙇𝙀𝙉𝘾𝙀, i immediately thought of Jeremy iron's role in kingdom of heaven
An eldar trying to bow to a group humans? That is a very rare and unique moment. Guilliman was right to pursue an alliance with the Eldar. The Imperium is full of enemies on every front, so is the situation of the Eldar. An alliance is the most logical thing.
consider what you're about to do Roboute Gullima-
SILENCE!
Careful now high lords... without His CPM, yall aint gonna last long
The Emperor seeing this: Finally, one of you at least gets "fuck the Xeno's"
And to this day the High Lord's in the room still their ears ringing
I wonder how strong the imperium would be if they actually legitimately teamed up with the eldar
Immensely. The Aeldari have some insane tech and hundreds of extremely skilled seers, plus a whole planet-sized library containing every bit of knowledge there is to know on chaos.
Their problem is minuscule quantity, with the Imperium to cover for that, and the Aeldari’s knowledge on how to deal with Chaos, both would benefit greatly.
Nothing better than Warhammer lore knowledge before sleep
Guilliman really said, "Do *NOT* insult my son-in-law!"
So this confirms that the Eldar helped revive Gulliman. Glad to see this info.
Dude this was confirmed at the start of 8th edition in 2017.
I would imagine Guilliman's shout would have made lesser men faint and total blackout
They forgot they were in the room of the final boss of bureaucracy
imagine the higher lords saying stuff like "the emperor's will point the way" and Guilliman says"I'm pointing the way!" XD
The high lords also treated the mechanicum with disdain (post heresy) until they marched a fracking titan up to the chamber and reminded them why their alliance was needed for survival.
That commodore isn't entirely wrong, though he may just have interrupted before hearing news that he didn't already know
Oh Guilliman. I’m sure the high lords will never forget that the Eldar are the reason you came back and ruined all their fun.
Bro clapped yvraine's cheeks and immediately sympathized with the Aeldari
"Paul Atreides moment"
I fucking love the way how you described it.
Folks talking aboit guilliman, but no one talking about the representative of the eldar getting down on a knee to show respect to someone who isnt of their own kind. Especially since how so far up their space elf butt that they are, it showed humility to kneel before someone they once considered beneath them, and guilliman likewise being courteous is truly wonderful, but guilliman being a peak statesman, hes forte was always about diplomacy
Big humie: WAAAAAAGH
Humies: ok boss
Yet another stark reminder that, as high as one might be among the High Lords of Terra, you are still naught but a mewling speck before a Primarch.
Roboute Guilliman, Improving Human-Eldar Relations since M41! (Or as we call it, “Claiming Alien Territory in the Name of The Imperium” if you catch my drift)
Ilyanne Natase is probably named after the half-Eldar Ultramarines Librarian from Rogue trader, who is himself named after a Romanian tennis player