that is so true. everyone last year said 'oh tampa had their heads up their ass', nah nah nah. columbus is hands down the best coached team in the league. they are such a hardworking team its insane
@Flames for Life I wonder if Leafs had Torts, and at least one more solid defender, how far they would go. Likely he would be reprimanded for scolding one of the big 3 and then promptly fired.
It is hard to get out of OSUs shadow. All of the media in this market goes directly to them. Their recruiting gets more press and respect than the Jackets. We will not get anything unless we win the cup. And im not saying once we win it will be respect from there on. Im saying if we don't win the cup that particular year, outside of the fan base we will not get respect.
because the blue jackets were the better team. i wasn't shocked this time around, kinda getting used to the dumpster fire in toronto. at least the raptors win consistently. leafs won't get better til they get at least one tough player. all wimps.
Overpaid underachieving team !! All this supposed firepower and they get shut down easily. This team as its constructed will never win anything ever!! Dubas has destroyed this team. Lou had them on the right track. Curtis McIleney 2.14 GAA average as back up and Idiot Dubas puts him on waivers. Everyone of Dubas contract negotiations he was pickpocketed and fleeced! For crying out loud John Brophy won a damn playoff series over a very good St Louis team!! 16 years nothing!!! Since last winning a playoff series. !
I dont watch a ton of leafs games since im a Sens fan, but i never understood the Tavares signing. They should have kept kadri and signed a top 2 Dman and a 3rd line Center. They would still have money to burn to fill out any empty roster spots
@@BoloHawker Hey fellow Sens fan! Yeah for our team that doesn't pay players the Tavares signing was an exercise in excess. I agree with you, they could have gotten a good 3rd line center and, if they could find one, a top 2 defensive D-man. In hindsight they should have resigned Hainsey and let Ceci walk as a UFA. Getting rid of Zaitsev's contract was good for them, and okay for the Sens if Connor Brown is resigned. We likely even got Artyom Zub thanks to getting Zaitsev, who also came from the KHL, so another bonus there
@@drivethru6155 crazy how two teams in the same province can be so different. Ottawa doesn't pay their players, and Toronto pays their players too much lol. If Toronto had not signed Ceci, Tavares and Kept Kadri, the leafs would have a crazy amount of Cap for someone to play 3rd line. And for the right price theres always a Top 4 dman available somewhere in the league. I think the Leafs main issue is Dubas being to generous to his players
I have asked myself this over and over and over again. Yet they still draft the small forwards, EG Robinson, and still NO DECENT RHD. I swear a 2 year old could GM this better then DUMASS
that guy worked for his team. I didn't even know the guy fought but the old man stepped up. he knew what he needed to do for his team. He deserves a team that will do the same for him. But as usual, the leafs flaked out.
I am a Canadiens fan and even I am STILL in shock that you guys ever traded both of those guys, especially Gilmour, I mean it is Doug Gilmour for Christ sake!!! Take care
I don’t know what Leafs fans they’re talking about because the Leafs fans I know saw this coming a mile away. They’re in acceptance mode. They knew how this series was going to end before it even started, and they were right.
After Friday’s game we all knew they’d lose Sunday. I have no idea where his perception of leaf fans as over hyping comes from, it was a crap season from game 1
What excuses can they really make? it's the same old problems, no defense, players go missing and produce nothing, Andersen lets in soft goals in elim games. Like this has been the norm for years now.
@Gino Morra It's his opinion, and typically I don't agree. (Not saying it's wrong) I just never thought he was any good. Tim has kept this show running for years
Not a leafs fan but i've said this before. Part of the problem with that team is the market. Those players know that they will be endorsed, adored and worship even without any success. That switches off many people's hunger to win
Thats Canada as a whole, their obsession with hockey is a double-edged sword and its probably been a major factor as to why a Canadian team hasn't won the cup in 27 years. I'm not surprised there are players that refuse to play in Canadian markets, they'll be built up as gods for the slightest success and be torn down the next in an instant, why do you think Phil Kessel was more than happy to get out of Toronto for Pittsburgh?
I’m not buying this “it’s the Toronto or Canadian market.” That’s garbage. Think about the pressure of playing in a soccer hotbed like the numerous hotbeds in England, Italy, Spain etc...those players survive and thrive despite the fishbowl they live and work in. I’m so fed up with this garbage excuse.
I think you got it backwards. They know that every mistake gets blown out of proportion, they know every drought is scrutinized. Sure, the good stretches are great. But every single person talks about the pressure of playing in that city for a reason. Players aren’t idiots. They know the city will turn on them with a bad stretch.
Cousin Patsey you need to go back and read what I wrote above. Football (soccer) players in England, Italy, Spain, Germany play week in week out in front of rabid fans and media and thrive on it. So no, I am not for one second going to accept that Leaf players can’t put on their big boy pants and deal with pressure in the same manner. The Toronto fans/media is not an excuse for the extremely poor performance of this team over the decades.
I wasn't responding to you initially. That's why my comment was much more about rebutting the OP's points than yours. Different sport, different culture. And yeah, actually, the media IS an excuse for some players poor performances over time. You can't subject players to unreasonable standards, then blame them when they aren't met immediately. Leafs lose three games, the sky is falling and the media wants trades on major players. Happens every year.
@@cuddy9215 No. I even watch the re-runs from four decades ago. :))) Watching the Leafs fail, never gets tiring - especially all the disappointed fans in N.P. Square!
They have $33Mil of cap space spent on three offensive players, one of which includes Tavares whom has never led a team to any success. In fact the Islanders have had more success AFTER he left... The comment made at 10:00 is very telling.
tavares is bad luck and alsowhen you put that much money into 3 players you are bound to fail, teams that win are deep all around and not just good in 1 area but all around
The islanders success has nothing to do with Tavares leaving and everything to do with Barry Trotz arriving. Trotz was hired the summer JT bolted. The isles are where they are this year with or without Tavares.
@@donovanjd3 It was such a tossup, I wanted the Leafs media to cry but I was afraid of the draft's phase II. I took screenshots of SEVERAL headlines on the Sportsnet app about the Leafs while I was watching the Foudy goal replay. Nothing feels better than reading all the headlines about the game 4 comeback being a lightning rod for the first Toronto Stanley Cup since 1967. All arrogance, ignorance, and blind faith. Such justice.
As a Leafs fan, Toronto Maple Leafs excuse will be: “There will always be the next year.” Or their second excuse will be: We didn't create chances and opportunities the puck didn't go in the net. We had up and downs and it was frustrating.
The "kids' in Toronto cared more about their payday and goodies over the fans and proper success. Real teams win with players that take team friendly contracts.
Matthews misses like 15% of every season. Dubas should’ve taken 15% off of his 11.634M cap hit. Marner only had his super star season WITH Jonny T. 8M at the most for him. The worst part is that none of them even signed 8 year deals. Is they all signed for 8 years then at least we can say “yea true they choked but once the cap goes up and they can bring in some new guys they’ll be good to go”. They all wanted superstar money but didn’t give superstar term.
Matt Mitch did 100%. Matthews, meh. He is clearly the best player on the team and I’d put him top 10 in the league with the ability to move to top 5 if he continues on his trajectory. He can demand a top salary cause he’s the player that defenses and goaltenders do not want to come up against. Mitch.. he’s crafty. Is he a monstrous threat. No not at all and the fact that his agent sucked every penny he could out of dubas and dubas let it happen was beyond on me. We could have two solid second liners, a second liner and a top 4 d, etc for what we’re paying him. It’s just ridiculous with Mitch
@@mattwilliams6587 They are going to want an even bigger bite when they become free agents again. That is the only reason to take a shorter contract, so that they can become free agents quicker and get a raise in pay quicker.
@@mig3598 Part of the problem is Leafs fans. Getting too attached to players, and thinking everyone is a "saviour" (as Tim mentioned). Marner had a good season that just happened to coincide with Tavares having a career-best goals. Then everyone started overhyping Marner and saying "We can't let Marner go. We got to pay him whatever it takes to make sure he stays and signs before training camp"...Dubas allowed a RFA take him to the cleaners. A RFA has ZERO LEVERAGE. They either sign a contract, sit at home (which decreases their value), or get traded. A RFA can't shop their services to the highest bidder. They can't play the market. Why let a RFA walk all over you the way Dubas let Marner walk all over him? I would have offered Marner $7.5-$8.0 million (which is fair, considering what Tkachuk, Point, and Aho got paid). If he refused to accept, then I would have started shopping him around the league. Same thing with Nylander the year before. I would have offered $6.0 million at most.
Leafs have good owners, lot of pressure to win now, very difficult to build a team with the cap. The leafs at least make the playoffs, the Knicks don't
The contract hurts so unless they retain a fair chunk of it no contender class team will bother, but this is speculation and no chance they’ll ever move Marner
Once again I'm confused.....TSN I.e. The Toronto sports nimwits told us last October that the leafs were gonna win it all this year......just like they say every year
For me it's just how little they got for Kadri who is a legit depth player despite some bad decisions. That trade will look worse and worse every year that passes especially if he thrives on Colorado.
@@RoamHockey He had heart in New York, but now he's just a mercenary picking up a check. He was a top 5 player in the league for 2 or 3 years, what a shame
@@Nagoto_Uzumaki we are amused by that coverage. Highly amused. what's even more amusing is the bitching and moaning. these clowns were hyping the Leafs up as the next Oilers or Islanders Dynasty. now ...they are all lazy bums. it's like Marner. 2 yrs ago he was the darling of the Tòronto media. Mr Primary Assist. Then he went through his contract talks...and became a villian! he was a bum..selfish... no good. He signs and becomes a HERO. now he is the scapegoat. Marner is the best player on the Leafs. He didn't have a great series. My guess , he was playing hurt. Look at the kids face in the press conference. He was devastated.
donovanjd3 Marner definitely isn’t the best player on the leaf. Mattews is 100% better than Marner. When did the media say they will be a dynasty? I assume that was before when had a lot of cap. Can’t blame them. Leafs had a lot of cap, had good prospect, it could’ve been one. But nope, we just massively overpay our players.
every time the Blue Jackets do something good it's always the other team has excuses bluejackets playoffs under torts 2017 beat by pens rd 1... pens win cup 2018 beat by caps rd 1... caps win cup 2019 beat by boston rd 2, boston goes to final maybe it isn't that the Blue Jackets weren't good, maybe it's the fact they got beat by the best of that year.. no one knows about Columbus, because they'd never have nationally televised games until they sweep the best hockey team in the NHL in 20 years, or until they beat the Toronto Maple leafs who are the center of the hockey media world. keep sleeping on them, they played better as an underdog
They're an average team without much firepower up front and weak goalies, dunno what u want people do make out of that but they're sure as hell not winning the cup with that.
@@paulthompson8793 And yet what wins championships? Defense. The Jackets play some of the hardest defense out of teams *IN* the Playoffs! They work for every shift! They're beatable but they'll make you work for it
@reelkena awww boo hoo quit defending the overpaid divas, you're top 3 forwards making over $30M you expect production not just shots and scoring chances. Wake up
Usually like these guys and their thoughts but damn, they consistently give CBJ ZERO credit. Like seriously, Jones will be in the Norris conversation every year until he retires. Werenski lead the league in D-man goals. PLD is a true #1 Center and Torts is winning the Jack Adams this year.
If your team is based around high offensive output and you don't score, that's on you. Great players find a way through, I don't know what the issue is honestly. There needs to be change this summer.
Did you listen to the video?! They gave the CBJ credit. You should try sticking around at the 6:25 mark. You know this is the Toronto market, right, so they are going to focus on Toronto first?! Seriously, get over your inferiority complex. People realize that the Blue Jackets are and have been a really good team for a while now and yes, Torts should win the Jack Adams for like the third time in his career. No one is taking anything away from Columbus. Also, many of us are rooting for you to knock off Tampa again. Their defense is great. Enjoy it and stop trying to find things to get upset about.
Nate S ahh yes Tim mentioned Jones and Z but said (paraphrasing) “Wear them down and they won’t be good”. That’s the extent of mentioning CBJ. All I’ve heard in Columbus for 2 weeks is “Matthews this” “Tavares that”. Other media markets give credit to where credit is due to their competitors. Go back to their videos covering the Tampa series last year and all they talked about was Tampa choking and not CBJ stepping on their throat.
@@derrickjohn411 - I do agree that last year Sid especially said that Tampa was responsible for their loss and that Columbus would lose in the next round in 5. Again, you are listening to a Toronto station. Columbus hasn't gotten the respect it deserved because prior to last year, they had never won a playoff series. Teams like the Caps that actually played them in the playoffs knew they are a tough team. Columbus shut out one of the most potent offenses in the league twice in a 5 game series. The Toronto media market is going to first focus on their team and then, grudgingly, give credit to the team that beat them. Most markets would be like that. I didn't listen to Pittsburgh media after the Caps beat them a couple of years ago but I'm willing to bet they spent more time talking about the Pens and their issues than they did giving the Caps credit and that is fine. That is what I would expect. Their team just lost. Look, I think you are just looking for reasons to be upset. I don't know anyone that is taking Columbus lightly. When the Caps won the Cup, our first round match up with Columbus was tough. Last year, Columbus took out one of the best regular season teams in NHL history. This year, after losing several of their best players, Columbus took out one of the better offensive teams in the league. I think you'll beat Tampa in the next round. I really do. Columbus matches up well against them. Tampa will likely be looking for revenge and I actually think that helps Columbus even more because then they will be more prone to making mistakes to make a point and avenge last year. If your goaltenders play the way they did in the 1st round, I could see them making the Cup Finals. Take it for what it is worth but I think you should enjoy this run and not worry about what anyone from the Toronto market has to say about anything. Even IF they don't want to give your team credit for beating them, it doesn't matter. Your team is still moving on and they aren't. Your team has a very good chance of making the Cup Finals and winning the Cup and they don't.
Reminds me of being a capitals fan. We always knew we had a chance to make it to the second round but after that we just had hope. You need alot to win a cup for me i look at the details in the defensive zone and the effort that every single player has no matter what they make.
I love how everyone Is saying Trade this guy and trade this guy. Good luck trading those big contracts to a team. I mean the Senators would be one team that could take big contract same with the Redwings. Nylander might be the best contract out of all of those players because If he underperforms at least he's not a 10 million dollar player.
Nylander has the best shot of being worth his contract. Just because Pastrnak is grossly underpaid doesn't make Nylander overpaid. If we wanna use that standard, anyone that gets paid more than Mackinnon needs to take less. McJesus is better than him, but not twice as good right?
Matthews and Marner may be overpaid, but at least they try. Pathetically they were the best Leafs defenders in that series. Tavares and Nylander need to be traded...but no one would take Tavares contract. At the very least Nylander needs to be traded for a defender.
As a Habs fan (and thus, always in opposition to any Leaf success), I think the biggest thing(s) this team lacks are grit and heart. Solid defense and a great goalie would help, too. Andersen is B+ but with this team you would need a Carey Price to even give you a chance in the playoffs.
Habs fan here too. But I’m very critical of Carey Price. He has 3 playoff series wins in his career (4 if you count the qualifiers). Halak won 2 series in one season as his backup. And I recognize your channel.. I just watched your Rocky Mountain videos the other day on my other RUclips channel and left you a comment.
@@RealSuperNintendan Hey, thanks for the support! I loved visiting the Rocky Mountains and I just did it again last month! Here's hoping Les Habitans full out the win against the Flyers...it'll be tough but not impossible. The qualifying round proves that this team is nowhere near as bad as its record seemed to suggest. Admittedly I wouldn't call us a Cup Contender either this year, but that's why we play the games!
Over the course of the past 15 years Toronto and Edmontons misery has been off the charts. I'd say the Oilers have had it even worse. At least the Oilers have won over the past 53 years but still. Its been a tough go in recent years. The misery for both fan bases just doesn't seem to wanna end. You think you're starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel then nope
As obnoxious as Sid can be at times - I agree with 99% of what they are saying in this segment. So glad someone in the Toronto media is finally being honest about the state of this team and organization. I grew up in southern Ontario and live in Toronto now - I was a Leafs fan as a kid for a few years until I realized that this organization and team do NOT support their fan base the same way their fan base supports them. No matter the product on the ice, losing year after losing year, the Leafs sell out every game and continue to be one of the most profitable BUSINESSES in the league. It's like Apple releasing iPhone after iPhone that doesn't work quite the way it's supposed to, but we all buy the new one hoping that this time they got it right. STOP SUPPORTING THIS TEAM UNTIL THEY WIN SOMETHING - force their hand Leafs fans, I'm tired of listening to the excuses too.
Its because we have 2 defensemen. One of which got injured, which also didn't matter we lost that series before it started. We are disappointing and sad
@@chunkyvonthick3225 It 's the Ballard curse . When the City of Toronto decided to run the subway under his property on Montgomery Ave . he hired a coven of French Canadian witches to cast a sixty year curse . The rest , as they say , is history .
"Seth Jones and Zach Werenski... played 30 minutes and 26 minutes.. do you think if you wear them down do you think they are as effective in the "x" minute of the game!?" Seth jones 65 and Zach 61 mins in one game in the next series... hold my beer
Oh, c'mon now.. CBJ is a decent team, it's not like TO lost to a bottom feeder. They have a good defensive system and they pounce and bury when possible. Against a team like TO that's going to be a good strategy. I don't know how CBJ will do in the coming series but they won't just lose every game. A lot of that series, I saw TO beating themselves. Failed passes, shots that a team this stacked shouldn't be wasting.. but yes, I agree with the overall sentiment, paying 4 guys and filling out the rest of the roster with minimal contracts is a bad idea. Been saying it since I first heard JT was being signed. It's tough being a Leaf fan, everyone generalizes us due to media hype. We're a normal fan base.. some are critical, some are doubters, some are fans no matter what and some are obnoxiously optimistic.
Cbj is an average team, far from good though, I don't think anybody is gonna expect them to even get a whiff of the cup let alone win it, they don't have the offense or goalie for it imo.
the problem with the team is consistency from the blue line and their depth. You never really know what youre gonna get from the D and 3rd and fourth from game to game
@@Roof_Pizza it's because going into the season the past few years, management made big trades or aquistions that are supposed to make us better. So we come into the season optimistic, then as we watch the season unfold, we realize just how wrong we were and just how much we lack and that's where the "we aren't surprised" comes along. People act like it's so wrong to change your opinion as the season progresses.
i wasnt , i bet against the leafs and im glad they lost , i cant stand keefe or dubas or their smirks thinking theyre the smartest guys in the room, when theyre just the biggest marks in the room
It’s funny how the New York islanders are moving onto the playoffs and they don’t even have John Tavares and the maple leafs do yet they don’t even make it technically
I knew they weren't going to win this series. this team is not built to win. Kyle Dubis has way too much money in the top end. Columbus Has it spread around and they also work a hell of a lot harder than the Leafs did. This team will never win with the core they have.
The Blues won the Cup last year with nobody making more than 7.25 mil per year. You have to roll 4 lines in today’s NHL. One dynamic line isn’t going to carry a team to the promised land.
A couple years ago I argued with a writer on Twitter, he said Austin Matthew's was unstoppable after a hawks game that was overtime. My response was what has Matthew's done? When he's actually won something then we will talk.
As an Oiler fan i see the hurt and pain some of you in Toronto are feeling, i can not even imagine how you feel,i am 54 years old and have witnessed some great Toronto teams but you get punched in the gut year after year come playoff time. The Oilers and Leafs have skill players and i think both have been stroked by the media that they are favorites and have enough skill to win.Both teams need to find all the other intangibles before the true success. aggression,persistence and dogged determination. At least Toronto has assets and maybe in time these current players will figure it out soon.
I’m an Australian whose partner is from Toronto. My first Xmas in Toronto was peppered with leafs and junior worlds on the tv. Coming from a place where we don’t have one town-one team setup I was amazed at the zealotry the fans had towards the aleafs. Watching more and more ha,es I was even more stunned at how apologist the fans were towards the Leafs and still are. The games are sellouts. The players get millions for losing. There are hundreds of merch stores at every corner. It’s a cult. And your ‘leader’ is sleeping with your wife and taking all your money. Now back in Australia my local barber is from a Toronto and he’s a Habs supporter. There’s obviously something in the TO water…
Tonnes of skill, but no killer instinct. Enough skill to create a dynasty, but they don't play tough enough. Look at the great teams from the 50's to the early 90's. Those guys were animals. Now all I see, are a bunch of kids with skill that made the NHL because their parents shelled out enough money for them to make it there. Not because they wanted it bad enough. Not because they fought for it.
I don't think anyone should be surprised and there is no need for excuses. The Bluejackets and Leafs are counters to each other and for this reason either team could have taken this series and why most predicted it being 5 games. CBJ are an impenetrable wall with few offensive weapons and the leafs are a glass cannon. There's a lot of talk that the top 4 forwards of TOR are being paid equivalent to the entire CBJ forwards, similarly (although not as ridiculously) CBJ top 4 defensemen are paid equivalent to the entire TOR defense. CBJ play a frustrating style, basically its like they're on the penalty kill during 5v5 and feed off of the turnovers for offence (borefest tbh, but it works). They kill the momentum of the play going into their zone, then box out in front of their net keeping everything to the outside. Its like the equivalent to parking the bus in soccer and is how weaker defensive teams are able to beat better rounded teams. TOR lost because they allowed this to frustrate them and that is directly related to errors in the coaching and leadership in the dressing room. That along with some bad puck luck and two really hot goaltenders is the simple reality in my opinion of the result of this series.
If this was any other series everyone would be talking about how great CBJ was. But because it’s this team, everyone only talks about how they screwed it all up again.
bruh what😂😂no no, the people responsible are in the locker room. matthews, nylander, marner, tavares, where were they all series? you have arguably the best top 6 in the league with a solid top 4 and a solid goalie. how do you figure its on the gm?
reily farr he built a team with no grit and defence is weak , everytime he has chance to better the defence he adds forwards.. he theories of can just out score everyone has been proven wrong time and time again... like Sid said he got his roster he got his coach what’s his excuse.. he needs to go
A stifling defence will always make it almost difficult for a free wheeling offence to function. In the current playoff format, taking into consideration how the refs call the playoffs as well, defence is key, and hard work, and consistent hard work (not just with 4 minutes left) the whole game outlives skill pretty well all the time.
those saying to trade John tavares r out of ur mind, He is legit one of the best leafs forward some of you guys just blame players and want them traded without know what they did for the team. I understand if you said to trade mitch but he is really affective during the penatly kill so the leafs should keep him but lower his contract by 3 milllion so they can get better defense.
Our local news channel has a segment called "you paid for it" where a dude hunts down government officials responsible for funding projects that seem to just keep getting more and more money thrown at them despite never being completed. They should do an episode on the Leafs.
Amitoj Chahal i dont really get why though. Like I never see leafs fans acting like we’re good (aside from like 10 year old kids on Instagram). I’m pretty sure leafs fans hate the leafs more than any leafs hater ever could lol. We know we’re a huge failure. I guess I kinda get your point with the media because Toronto gets a ton of media coverage but that’s just how population works. And most of the media coverage is pretty negative about leafs management and players too. And most of the comments I see of people hating the leafs are on videos like these. Like the video is very clearly going to be about the leafs. Why watch the video if you hate the leafs? I do see your point though and I’m assuming your a canucks fan and I’m definitely cheering for them against the blues on Wednesday
I dont know what world these people live in. Most Leafs fans i know make fun of their team more than any other North American sports franchise. I seriously didnt hear 1 leafs fan think they were gunna win game 5 against Columbus.
Truth is it wasn’t bad coach Babs it was the rookie GM Dubas who doesn’t know what he’s doing. He gave way too much money to unproven players and they have no desire or heart. Get rid of Andersen and get a legit number 1 goalie. Coach Keefe isn’t the answer either.
Dubai is an economic wonder. They're also extremely rich and well off. Leafs are broke as hell. More than 1/3 of their cap is tied in on only a few players. They have no room to sign anyone else worthy. The Leafs as you know it will not make the playoffs anytime soon. Firing the GM actually won't change anything. The Leafs have to focus on drafting and rebuilding.
Columbus Blue Jackets have seth Jones and zach werenski. The leafs have no defencemen of that caliber. Also in net korpisalo and we have freddy Andersen who has 3rd period black outs and freddy loses the game and that happens every year. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS THE PLAYOFFS. THAT IS WHY TORTS IS LAUGHING AT LEAF MGT. THAT IS WHY WE LOSE.
I have said this for years, place a team in Hamilton. I know how close it is to T.O. Simple business Leafs have no local competition. Hamilton joins the league with an owner not beholden to Toronto mania will produce a winner in short order. IMHO
Maybe if the media and fans didn't pump up every player to superstar status who merely puts on the Uniform then you wouldn't get 8 million dollar players thinking they're 11 million dollar players.
“If you didn’t see this coming you’re an idiot.” THIS. THIS ALL DAY. As a Leafs fan for 30 years, I honestly want them to trade Matthews to the NY Islanders so I can go with him and trade in all my Leafs gear for Isles gear and NEVER look back.
It's all about money. The leafs can pay big salaries. The Jackets smaller market requires distributing the money carefully. The organization spreads it out. A team emerges. No superstars. When Bobrosky became one, the team drew the salary line. He bolted. Money can't buy a championsip team.
I remember the Canucks did awesome with one top line the west coast express Morrison,nazlund, and Bertuzzi, the Leafs top line are the highest paid I understand the covid19 thing but next year is a loss if they can't get to the second round and then I think some guys need to go we need guys who want to play doesn't the maple leaf on the jersey mean anything anymore...... Pissed off fan but I still bleed blue get Wendel Clark as the head coach
That’s how fickle fans work “omg he’s so good, I love him” then “omg he’s garbage he needs to get traded” they did that to Cam Talbot here in Edmonton, and I can list almost every Oiler they’ve said that about
What was that article a few years back, that stated? "It's not if or when the Leafs are going to win the Stanley Cup, but how many times...." With their deep in young, fast, talented and creative forwards, a decent enough defence corp and solid goal-tending, not to mention half the top ten NHL prospects in their system, etc, etc. They were a dynasty in the making. They were even Vegas favourites at the start that season to win it all.....Well, look at you now. No guts, no glory.
Toronto and Pittsburgh are eliminated. Phil Kessel is still playing.
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@Stefan Ohlund hall was in the playoffs with the devils
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Were we wrong about him?
Nobody gives CBJ any credit
that is so true. everyone last year said 'oh tampa had their heads up their ass', nah nah nah. columbus is hands down the best coached team in the league. they are such a hardworking team its insane
@Flames for Life I wonder if Leafs had Torts, and at least one more solid defender, how far they would go. Likely he would be reprimanded for scolding one of the big 3 and then promptly fired.
Because Columbus is a college town/small market. People crap on it.
It is hard to get out of OSUs shadow. All of the media in this market goes directly to them. Their recruiting gets more press and respect than the Jackets. We will not get anything unless we win the cup. And im not saying once we win it will be respect from there on. Im saying if we don't win the cup that particular year, outside of the fan base we will not get respect.
because the blue jackets were the better team. i wasn't shocked this time around, kinda getting used to the dumpster fire in toronto. at least the raptors win consistently. leafs won't get better til they get at least one tough player. all wimps.
REPEAT: The entire Blue Jackets 17 forwards salary comes to 40.5 m while the leafs BIG 4 comes to 40.25 m!!!! Sid: "That's astounding"
Overpaid underachieving team !! All this supposed firepower and they get shut down easily. This team as its constructed will never win anything ever!! Dubas has destroyed this team. Lou had them on the right track. Curtis McIleney 2.14 GAA average as back up and Idiot Dubas puts him on waivers. Everyone of Dubas contract negotiations he was pickpocketed and fleeced! For crying out loud John Brophy won a damn playoff series over a very good St Louis team!! 16 years nothing!!! Since last winning a playoff series. !
I know ridiculous amount of money!
"We can and we will.....it's the rest of the team I have no idea about. "
They should not be paid..with this kind of abysmal performances
There’s only half a team here unfortunately, all big money forwards with absolutely no defence what so ever and no goalie
Why they spent $11M on a centre when their most glaring need was a shut-down defenceman is beyond me.
I dont watch a ton of leafs games since im a Sens fan, but i never understood the Tavares signing. They should have kept kadri and signed a top 2 Dman and a 3rd line Center. They would still have money to burn to fill out any empty roster spots
@@BoloHawker Hey fellow Sens fan! Yeah for our team that doesn't pay players the Tavares signing was an exercise in excess. I agree with you, they could have gotten a good 3rd line center and, if they could find one, a top 2 defensive D-man. In hindsight they should have resigned Hainsey and let Ceci walk as a UFA. Getting rid of Zaitsev's contract was good for them, and okay for the Sens if Connor Brown is resigned. We likely even got Artyom Zub thanks to getting Zaitsev, who also came from the KHL, so another bonus there
@@drivethru6155 crazy how two teams in the same province can be so different. Ottawa doesn't pay their players, and Toronto pays their players too much lol. If Toronto had not signed Ceci, Tavares and Kept Kadri, the leafs would have a crazy amount of Cap for someone to play 3rd line. And for the right price theres always a Top 4 dman available somewhere in the league. I think the Leafs main issue is Dubas being to generous to his players
A center worth no more than 6 mil right now, and for the foreseeable future.
I have asked myself this over and over and over again. Yet they still draft the small forwards, EG Robinson, and still NO DECENT RHD. I swear a 2 year old could GM this better then DUMASS
Seeing spezza sitting with his head down is a sad sight to see 😢
Someone with that guy's heart is who you want on your team.
that guy worked for his team. I didn't even know the guy fought but the old man stepped up. he knew what he needed to do for his team. He deserves a team that will do the same for him. But as usual, the leafs flaked out.
It is however fitting that these Leafs who are so much like the early 2000s Sens would put a former Sen from that era in a leadership role.
I recommend watching ‘Urinatingtree’s video, “The Toronto Maple Leafs: A half-century of failure”
Haha, that video is a masterpiece! It’s great to see a few other Leafs fans who speak the truth in this comments thread.
Saw it when he 1st uploaded. That video spoke truth from start to finish!
And they're on a good pace to get to 100
@Denis Beaubien
I agree. I’m worried they’ll double their current cup drought at this rate.
An excellent video indeed!
"THEY JUST LOST TO A 42 YEAR OLD ZAMBONI DRIVER WHO WORKS FOR THEM!!" - Steve Dangle
LOL
I can hear it in his voice
Hahahahaha, Lol and True!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Impossible to read this without Stevies loud screechy voice lol
Lmfao... must be the reason 🤷🏾♂️
Doug Gilmore and Wendel Clark had more guts than this whole leafs team combined.
I am a Canadiens fan and even I am STILL in shock that you guys ever traded both of those guys, especially Gilmour, I mean it is Doug Gilmour for Christ sake!!!
Take care
Spellcheck, please, before you post...
I imagine when Torts was ripping Toronto media, he was watching Tim&Sid.
Torts = The GOAT of Bad @$$ coaches.
Torts is the man
Any coach willing rto go head first into the other teams dressing room is a coach I want to play for 💪
I don’t know what Leafs fans they’re talking about because the Leafs fans I know saw this coming a mile away. They’re in acceptance mode. They knew how this series was going to end before it even started, and they were right.
you have to remember that they have to get their perception of the public from social media. right or wrong, there isn't a better way to do it
True, I couldn’t watch the last 2 games in their entirety that’s how much I believed in this team.
I called this, like all Leafs fans.
We expect it, but keep watching hoping for a better result.
The true definition of insanity
Probably the fans that enjoy trashtalking other teams during the regular season, but become really quiet during the playoffs
After Friday’s game we all knew they’d lose Sunday. I have no idea where his perception of leaf fans as over hyping comes from, it was a crap season from game 1
What excuses can they really make? it's the same old problems, no defense, players go missing and produce nothing, Andersen lets in soft goals in elim games. Like this has been the norm for years now.
No one:
Sid: Where is the excuse **dramatic pause** NOW
That got unbearable pretty quick. What a blowhard.
How's this guy still on TV. Toronto literally has the worst sportscasters anywhere.
@Gino Morra It's his opinion, and typically I don't agree. (Not saying it's wrong) I just never thought he was any good. Tim has kept this show running for years
Not a leafs fan but i've said this before. Part of the problem with that team is the market. Those players know that they will be endorsed, adored and worship even without any success. That switches off many people's hunger to win
Thats Canada as a whole, their obsession with hockey is a double-edged sword and its probably been a major factor as to why a Canadian team hasn't won the cup in 27 years. I'm not surprised there are players that refuse to play in Canadian markets, they'll be built up as gods for the slightest success and be torn down the next in an instant, why do you think Phil Kessel was more than happy to get out of Toronto for Pittsburgh?
I’m not buying this “it’s the Toronto or Canadian market.” That’s garbage. Think about the pressure of playing in a soccer hotbed like the numerous hotbeds in England, Italy, Spain etc...those players survive and thrive despite the fishbowl they live and work in. I’m so fed up with this garbage excuse.
I think you got it backwards. They know that every mistake gets blown out of proportion, they know every drought is scrutinized. Sure, the good stretches are great. But every single person talks about the pressure of playing in that city for a reason. Players aren’t idiots. They know the city will turn on them with a bad stretch.
Cousin Patsey you need to go back and read what I wrote above. Football (soccer) players in England, Italy, Spain, Germany play week in week out in front of rabid fans and media and thrive on it. So no, I am not for one second going to accept that Leaf players can’t put on their big boy pants and deal with pressure in the same manner. The Toronto fans/media is not an excuse for the extremely poor performance of this team over the decades.
I wasn't responding to you initially. That's why my comment was much more about rebutting the OP's points than yours.
Different sport, different culture.
And yeah, actually, the media IS an excuse for some players poor performances over time. You can't subject players to unreasonable standards, then blame them when they aren't met immediately. Leafs lose three games, the sky is falling and the media wants trades on major players. Happens every year.
Normally I'd never watch a Leaf vid but them failing is hard to ignore.
Don't lie. You watch every Leaf vid
We’ve been failing for decades have you been sleeping under a rock?
@@cuddy9215 Yeah, ya got me. I watch 3-4 Leaf vids each year after they crash and burn. The remainder of the year is unwatchable.
@@cuddy9215 No. I even watch the re-runs from four decades ago. :))) Watching the Leafs fail, never gets tiring - especially all the disappointed fans in N.P. Square!
Laurie Lacey Perhaps finding a hobby may do you some good?
Team didn't nut up. You got dudes with 11 mil a year that have an empty resume.
They have $33Mil of cap space spent on three offensive players, one of which includes Tavares whom has never led a team to any success. In fact the Islanders have had more success AFTER he left... The comment made at 10:00 is very telling.
And now we are stuck with him because he has a no move trade clause.
tavares is bad luck and alsowhen you put that much money into 3 players you are bound to fail, teams that win are deep all around and not just good in 1 area but all around
It’s over $40 million if you include Nylander, all of whom are signed long term.
The islanders success has nothing to do with Tavares leaving and everything to do with Barry Trotz arriving.
Trotz was hired the summer JT bolted. The isles are where they are this year with or without Tavares.
Ariana Nicolas Thanks for actually having a brain. Many people don’t realize this
Like I always say, "The Stanley Cup doesn't officially start until The Leafs are eliminated." LOL
Funniest comment ever. You win the Internet.
@@musicman76enator salty?
Damn bro Talk about adding insult to injury
Only thing better than watching the Leaf’s get eliminated is watching the Leaf media cry about it lol
also to see them not get the 1st overall pick either
I've waited all season for this. I was afraid we'd be deprived of it, but good ol Columbus did us all a favor.
@@MichaelR-ll9yf bought a Columbus hat..just for the series. Have to admit I was afraid that the Leafs would win the draft lottery
@@donovanjd3 It was such a tossup, I wanted the Leafs media to cry but I was afraid of the draft's phase II. I took screenshots of SEVERAL headlines on the Sportsnet app about the Leafs while I was watching the Foudy goal replay. Nothing feels better than reading all the headlines about the game 4 comeback being a lightning rod for the first Toronto Stanley Cup since 1967. All arrogance, ignorance, and blind faith. Such justice.
I saw a half mast Leafs flag today.
Still funny.
As a Leafs fan, Toronto Maple Leafs excuse will be: “There will always be the next year.” Or their second excuse will be: We didn't create chances and opportunities the puck didn't go in the net. We had up and downs and it was frustrating.
The "kids' in Toronto cared more about their payday and goodies over the fans and proper success. Real teams win with players that take team friendly contracts.
Matthews misses like 15% of every season. Dubas should’ve taken 15% off of his 11.634M cap hit. Marner only had his super star season WITH Jonny T. 8M at the most for him. The worst part is that none of them even signed 8 year deals. Is they all signed for 8 years then at least we can say “yea true they choked but once the cap goes up and they can bring in some new guys they’ll be good to go”. They all wanted superstar money but didn’t give superstar term.
Matt Mitch did 100%. Matthews, meh. He is clearly the best player on the team and I’d put him top 10 in the league with the ability to move to top 5 if he continues on his trajectory. He can demand a top salary cause he’s the player that defenses and goaltenders do not want to come up against. Mitch.. he’s crafty. Is he a monstrous threat. No not at all and the fact that his agent sucked every penny he could out of dubas and dubas let it happen was beyond on me. We could have two solid second liners, a second liner and a top 4 d, etc for what we’re paying him. It’s just ridiculous with Mitch
@@mattwilliams6587 all so true. Look at the successful teams and their stars.
@@mattwilliams6587 They are going to want an even bigger bite when they become free agents again. That is the only reason to take a shorter contract, so that they can become free agents quicker and get a raise in pay quicker.
@@mig3598 Part of the problem is Leafs fans. Getting too attached to players, and thinking everyone is a "saviour" (as Tim mentioned). Marner had a good season that just happened to coincide with Tavares having a career-best goals. Then everyone started overhyping Marner and saying "We can't let Marner go. We got to pay him whatever it takes to make sure he stays and signs before training camp"...Dubas allowed a RFA take him to the cleaners. A RFA has ZERO LEVERAGE. They either sign a contract, sit at home (which decreases their value), or get traded. A RFA can't shop their services to the highest bidder. They can't play the market. Why let a RFA walk all over you the way Dubas let Marner walk all over him? I would have offered Marner $7.5-$8.0 million (which is fair, considering what Tkachuk, Point, and Aho got paid). If he refused to accept, then I would have started shopping him around the league. Same thing with Nylander the year before. I would have offered $6.0 million at most.
"Leafs has been a joke since 1967" - SID.. #53YearsOfDisappointment 😭😂😂
The last time this team won there was only 6 teams in the league. They are the softest in the NHL
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Tim W 6
@@LOUI-e7h Yes and had dibs om best players from Ontario too
@@timw1153 there were 6 teams in the league in 66 -67
Not surprised. Defence beats offence every time. I picked CBJ before the series. I'm surprised it went 5.
Unless ur the oilers of the 80s and not playing the '83 isles
Will over skill always wins
@ELJAY leaf fans don't get a lot of things . . . especially playoff wins.
The Toronto Maple leafs are the knicks of the NHL, I’ve been saying it for time
Matthew Haynes lol not true everyone literally expects the leafs to lose in the first round if they make the playoffs😂😂
No no no. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL.
Leafs have good owners, lot of pressure to win now, very difficult to build a team with the cap. The leafs at least make the playoffs, the Knicks don't
@@2011thetemp the Knicks do now
Marner ABSOLUTELY deserves a fair amount of blame for this series, and I believe he’s the 1st guy they should dangle out there in the offseason.
The contract hurts so unless they retain a fair chunk of it no contender class team will bother, but this is speculation and no chance they’ll ever move Marner
get rid of tavares, keep the 3 young guys matthews nylander and marner, dump tavares and get a good defensive defensemen
Lmao nobodys taking that contract. One of the worst in the league
Nobody takes him with his fat contract
The contract Marner signed will keep him a Leaf until it expires. No GM in their right mind would have signed him to it.
Once again I'm confused.....TSN I.e. The Toronto sports nimwits told us last October that the leafs were gonna win it all this year......just like they say every year
Who specially said that?
Well Guys, They did it again!
Every criticism that Babcock had about the team when he was coaching it is still true.
Yup wasnt babcocks fault.
Lou and Babcock are laughing their @$$e$ off at the Boy Wonder.
Babcock was still a problem no matter what way you slice it. But he wasn't all of the problem
Let’s go islanders
hehe
Kadri + $11M in defencemen is a much better idea than the absurdly overrated non-achiever JT.
For me it's just how little they got for Kadri who is a legit depth player despite some bad decisions.
That trade will look worse and worse every year that passes especially if he thrives on Colorado.
@@RoamHockey He had heart in New York, but now he's just a mercenary picking up a check. He was a top 5 player in the league for 2 or 3 years, what a shame
Enjoy ol JT. He came home didnt he lol.
Tristan Gray what about Tyler bozak who won a championship ? And Phil kessel
Weren't leaf fans jumping for joy when they signed this guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
the sorrow of Leafs Nation brings me much joy.
Why?
Chris Durling Cause they’re jealous that their team will never get the amount of attention that the leafs get. So stupid if you ask me.
@@Nagoto_Uzumaki we are amused by that coverage. Highly amused. what's even more amusing is the bitching and moaning.
these clowns were hyping the Leafs up as the next Oilers or Islanders Dynasty. now ...they are all lazy bums. it's like Marner. 2 yrs ago he was the darling of the Tòronto media. Mr Primary Assist. Then he went through his contract talks...and became a villian! he was a bum..selfish... no good. He signs and becomes a HERO. now he is the scapegoat. Marner is the best player on the Leafs. He didn't have a great series. My guess , he was playing hurt. Look at the kids face in the press conference. He was devastated.
@@chrisdurling9002 why...clips like this. the countless number of clips and vids we will see for months on end.
donovanjd3 Marner definitely isn’t the best player on the leaf. Mattews is 100% better than Marner. When did the media say they will be a dynasty? I assume that was before when had a lot of cap. Can’t blame them. Leafs had a lot of cap, had good prospect, it could’ve been one. But nope, we just massively overpay our players.
I was hardened as a leaf fan in the 80’s during the Harold Ballard days.
Thank u for ur service
@@RoamHockey There's a valid excuse now. The Leafs suck
every time the Blue Jackets do something good it's always the other team has excuses
bluejackets playoffs under torts
2017 beat by pens rd 1... pens win cup
2018 beat by caps rd 1... caps win cup
2019 beat by boston rd 2, boston goes to final
maybe it isn't that the Blue Jackets weren't good, maybe it's the fact they got beat by the best of that year.. no one knows about Columbus, because they'd never have nationally televised games until they sweep the best hockey team in the NHL in 20 years, or until they beat the Toronto Maple leafs who are the center of the hockey media world. keep sleeping on them, they played better as an underdog
They're an average team without much firepower up front and weak goalies, dunno what u want people do make out of that but they're sure as hell not winning the cup with that.
@@paulthompson8793 weak goalies is a bold statement
@@paulthompson8793 And yet what wins championships? Defense. The Jackets play some of the hardest defense out of teams *IN* the Playoffs! They work for every shift!
They're beatable but they'll make you work for it
@@bburris31 Korpisalo God Mode...Activate!
@@AscendedXSaiyan Defense wins championships? **looks at Nashville** ...Guess not...
Leafs losing Game 7 to the Habs in 2021 brought me here. Oh boy.
There are no excuses. This is sickening
Read the top comment
The leafs are like Lamborghini with no engine. All show, no go.
@reelkena awww boo hoo quit defending the overpaid divas, you're top 3 forwards making over $30M you expect production not just shots and scoring chances. Wake up
Usually like these guys and their thoughts but damn, they consistently give CBJ ZERO credit. Like seriously, Jones will be in the Norris conversation every year until he retires. Werenski lead the league in D-man goals. PLD is a true #1 Center and Torts is winning the Jack Adams this year.
To me it's not that CBJ weren't good, they were a good team, but doesn't matter leafs have to do something
If your team is based around high offensive output and you don't score, that's on you. Great players find a way through, I don't know what the issue is honestly. There needs to be change this summer.
Did you listen to the video?! They gave the CBJ credit. You should try sticking around at the 6:25 mark. You know this is the Toronto market, right, so they are going to focus on Toronto first?! Seriously, get over your inferiority complex. People realize that the Blue Jackets are and have been a really good team for a while now and yes, Torts should win the Jack Adams for like the third time in his career. No one is taking anything away from Columbus. Also, many of us are rooting for you to knock off Tampa again. Their defense is great. Enjoy it and stop trying to find things to get upset about.
Nate S ahh yes Tim mentioned Jones and Z but said (paraphrasing) “Wear them down and they won’t be good”. That’s the extent of mentioning CBJ. All I’ve heard in Columbus for 2 weeks is “Matthews this” “Tavares that”. Other media markets give credit to where credit is due to their competitors. Go back to their videos covering the Tampa series last year and all they talked about was Tampa choking and not CBJ stepping on their throat.
@@derrickjohn411 - I do agree that last year Sid especially said that Tampa was responsible for their loss and that Columbus would lose in the next round in 5. Again, you are listening to a Toronto station. Columbus hasn't gotten the respect it deserved because prior to last year, they had never won a playoff series. Teams like the Caps that actually played them in the playoffs knew they are a tough team. Columbus shut out one of the most potent offenses in the league twice in a 5 game series. The Toronto media market is going to first focus on their team and then, grudgingly, give credit to the team that beat them. Most markets would be like that. I didn't listen to Pittsburgh media after the Caps beat them a couple of years ago but I'm willing to bet they spent more time talking about the Pens and their issues than they did giving the Caps credit and that is fine. That is what I would expect. Their team just lost. Look, I think you are just looking for reasons to be upset. I don't know anyone that is taking Columbus lightly. When the Caps won the Cup, our first round match up with Columbus was tough. Last year, Columbus took out one of the best regular season teams in NHL history. This year, after losing several of their best players, Columbus took out one of the better offensive teams in the league. I think you'll beat Tampa in the next round. I really do. Columbus matches up well against them. Tampa will likely be looking for revenge and I actually think that helps Columbus even more because then they will be more prone to making mistakes to make a point and avenge last year. If your goaltenders play the way they did in the 1st round, I could see them making the Cup Finals. Take it for what it is worth but I think you should enjoy this run and not worry about what anyone from the Toronto market has to say about anything. Even IF they don't want to give your team credit for beating them, it doesn't matter. Your team is still moving on and they aren't. Your team has a very good chance of making the Cup Finals and winning the Cup and they don't.
As a Jake Gardiner fan this series was absolutely lovely to watch
Reminds me of being a capitals fan. We always knew we had a chance to make it to the second round but after that we just had hope. You need alot to win a cup for me i look at the details in the defensive zone and the effort that every single player has no matter what they make.
I love how everyone Is saying Trade this guy and trade this guy. Good luck trading those big contracts to a team. I mean the Senators would be one team that could take big contract same with the Redwings. Nylander might be the best contract out of all of those players because If he underperforms at least he's not a 10 million dollar player.
Nylander has the best shot of being worth his contract. Just because Pastrnak is grossly underpaid doesn't make Nylander overpaid. If we wanna use that standard, anyone that gets paid more than Mackinnon needs to take less. McJesus is better than him, but not twice as good right?
Matthews and Marner may be overpaid, but at least they try. Pathetically they were the best Leafs defenders in that series.
Tavares and Nylander need to be traded...but no one would take Tavares contract. At the very least Nylander needs to be traded for a defender.
Pasternak makes like 5 million a year Nylander makes 7 hmmmmm
As a Habs fan (and thus, always in opposition to any Leaf success), I think the biggest thing(s) this team lacks are grit and heart. Solid defense and a great goalie would help, too. Andersen is B+ but with this team you would need a Carey Price to even give you a chance in the playoffs.
Habs fan here too. But I’m very critical of Carey Price. He has 3 playoff series wins in his career (4 if you count the qualifiers). Halak won 2 series in one season as his backup. And I recognize your channel.. I just watched your Rocky Mountain videos the other day on my other RUclips channel and left you a comment.
@@RealSuperNintendan Hey, thanks for the support! I loved visiting the Rocky Mountains and I just did it again last month!
Here's hoping Les Habitans full out the win against the Flyers...it'll be tough but not impossible. The qualifying round proves that this team is nowhere near as bad as its record seemed to suggest.
Admittedly I wouldn't call us a Cup Contender either this year, but that's why we play the games!
Leafs fans: REEEEEE
Oilers fans: First time?
The Oilers truly are the Leafs of the west. 🤣
Other way around. Leafs have gone through so much more misery than the oilers
Leafs: No actually it’s like my 53rd time.
Over the course of the past 15 years Toronto and Edmontons misery has been off the charts. I'd say the Oilers have had it even worse. At least the Oilers have won over the past 53 years but still. Its been a tough go in recent years. The misery for both fan bases just doesn't seem to wanna end. You think you're starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel then nope
@@kakarotblake Oh that's a light at the end of the tunnel alright! It's from a train. 🤪🚂
Torts is the best coach in hockey and I would love him coaching the Leafs
Not sure how the babies would like it though
The Leafs players are just collecting a check at this point. No emotion.
As obnoxious as Sid can be at times - I agree with 99% of what they are saying in this segment. So glad someone in the Toronto media is finally being honest about the state of this team and organization. I grew up in southern Ontario and live in Toronto now - I was a Leafs fan as a kid for a few years until I realized that this organization and team do NOT support their fan base the same way their fan base supports them. No matter the product on the ice, losing year after losing year, the Leafs sell out every game and continue to be one of the most profitable BUSINESSES in the league. It's like Apple releasing iPhone after iPhone that doesn't work quite the way it's supposed to, but we all buy the new one hoping that this time they got it right. STOP SUPPORTING THIS TEAM UNTIL THEY WIN SOMETHING - force their hand Leafs fans, I'm tired of listening to the excuses too.
there is something like a 13 year wait for season tickets. Good luck!
Leafs are absolutely brutal at moving the puck out of the D - zone . Any kind of effective fore checking is all you need to beat them .
Its because we have 2 defensemen. One of which got injured, which also didn't matter we lost that series before it started. We are disappointing and sad
@@chunkyvonthick3225 It 's the Ballard curse . When the City of Toronto decided to run the subway under his property on Montgomery Ave . he hired a coven of French Canadian witches to cast a sixty year curse . The rest , as they say , is history .
Yeah - put the Leafs under pressure and they crack. They'll score some awesome highlight reel goals... Hope that's enough for leafs fans.
"Seth Jones and Zach Werenski... played 30 minutes and 26 minutes.. do you think if you wear them down do you think they are as effective in the "x" minute of the game!?" Seth jones 65 and Zach 61 mins in one game in the next series... hold my beer
The excuse NOW is that the Columbus Blue Jackets are a good team NOW. They got out played TIM.
Oh, c'mon now.. CBJ is a decent team, it's not like TO lost to a bottom feeder. They have a good defensive system and they pounce and bury when possible. Against a team like TO that's going to be a good strategy. I don't know how CBJ will do in the coming series but they won't just lose every game. A lot of that series, I saw TO beating themselves. Failed passes, shots that a team this stacked shouldn't be wasting.. but yes, I agree with the overall sentiment, paying 4 guys and filling out the rest of the roster with minimal contracts is a bad idea. Been saying it since I first heard JT was being signed. It's tough being a Leaf fan, everyone generalizes us due to media hype. We're a normal fan base.. some are critical, some are doubters, some are fans no matter what and some are obnoxiously optimistic.
Columbus is beatable.
Cbj is an average team, far from good though, I don't think anybody is gonna expect them to even get a whiff of the cup let alone win it, they don't have the offense or goalie for it imo.
The big difference, CBJ bought into their coach's philosophy. And they have at least 2 NHL calibre defensemen. Leafs have less than 0.
Columbus is garbage ! And so are the maple leafs !
these guys are clowns, shutout in 3 games. im so tired of cheering for them
In 5
2
the problem with the team is consistency from the blue line and their depth. You never really know what youre gonna get from the D and 3rd and fourth from game to game
kadri trade is looking really bad right now. almost as bad as this skit.
When a leaf fans says they are not surprised.....yes they are, leaf fans believe this is the year, every year.
Damn didn't know you speak for every leafs fan
@@Clubpenguin22 If your a leaf fan....your die hard fan.
@@Roof_Pizza it's because going into the season the past few years, management made big trades or aquistions that are supposed to make us better. So we come into the season optimistic, then as we watch the season unfold, we realize just how wrong we were and just how much we lack and that's where the "we aren't surprised" comes along. People act like it's so wrong to change your opinion as the season progresses.
i wasnt , i bet against the leafs and im glad they lost , i cant stand keefe or dubas or their smirks thinking theyre the smartest guys in the room, when theyre just the biggest marks in the room
It’s funny how the New York islanders are moving onto the playoffs and they don’t even have John Tavares and the maple leafs do yet they don’t even make it technically
A lesson in what solid coaching can bring? 🤔
If the Islanders fail to win the Cup, they will be considered looser 's too.
@@kronikcanuck334 cool pointless apostrophe, dude.
@@BurtTurbo puff puff pass
Man this is tremendous watching the meltdown
I'm tired of Excuses for this team! Raptors figured it out. Make me laughs can't
Sids moving away from the mic to yell like the Chocolate Rain guy does to breathe.
I knew they weren't going to win this series. this team is not built to win. Kyle Dubis has way too much money in the top end. Columbus Has it spread around and they also work a hell of a lot harder than the Leafs did.
This team will never win with the core they have.
Agree. At times this team plays like they don’t even want to be here. Like teenagers, do what they are told when they want how they want.
they are built to be on the power play.
The Blues won the Cup last year with nobody making more than 7.25 mil per year.
You have to roll 4 lines in today’s NHL. One dynamic line isn’t going to carry a team to the promised land.
There is no sign this team is going in the right direction.
Toronto Maple Leafs making haters happy since 1967
I think I like the Leafs because I don't want to spend summer days watching or even thinking about hockey
That's an excellent point lol
I thought that’s what the Blue Jays are for.
A couple years ago I argued with a writer on Twitter, he said Austin Matthew's was unstoppable after a hawks game that was overtime. My response was what has Matthew's done? When he's actually won something then we will talk.
Matthews 💩💩💩💩
@@aaronjohnson3463 i wouldn't go that far, just don't anoint him till he's done something real
As an Oiler fan i see the hurt and pain some of you in Toronto are feeling, i can not even imagine how you feel,i am 54 years old and have witnessed some great Toronto teams but you get punched in the gut year after year come playoff time. The Oilers and Leafs have skill players and i think both have been stroked by the media that they are favorites and have enough skill to win.Both teams need to find all the other intangibles before the true success. aggression,persistence and dogged determination. At least Toronto has assets and maybe in time these current players will figure it out soon.
They choke so much in the playoffs for a second i thought this was from this year
I’m an Australian whose partner is from Toronto.
My first Xmas in Toronto was peppered with leafs and junior worlds on the tv.
Coming from a place where we don’t have one town-one team setup I was amazed at the zealotry the fans had towards the aleafs.
Watching more and more ha,es I was even more stunned at how apologist the fans were towards the Leafs and still are.
The games are sellouts. The players get millions for losing. There are hundreds of merch stores at every corner.
It’s a cult. And your ‘leader’ is sleeping with your wife and taking all your money.
Now back in Australia my local barber is from a Toronto and he’s a Habs supporter.
There’s obviously something in the TO water…
Tonnes of skill, but no killer instinct. Enough skill to create a dynasty, but they don't play tough enough. Look at the great teams from the 50's to the early 90's. Those guys were animals. Now all I see, are a bunch of kids with skill that made the NHL because their parents shelled out enough money for them to make it there. Not because they wanted it bad enough. Not because they fought for it.
Great teams from the 90's would lose 10-0 if they played in today's NHL
their lack of effort is what comes with the rest of that generation . the whole next wave is terrible . may as well get used to it .
Man that’s a brilliant rant. You have encapsulated my last couple days of thought
That Rant deserves An Award !!
Absolutely right. Stop blaming marincin. Hes making 800k aim higher.
The second goal was kinda his fault though
@@adams3517 ya holl shouldn't have changed too
Dustin Mills true
The savior thing is the media talking which you are a part of.
Exactly.
I will never watch another Tim and Sid clip for fear that he will repeat “where are the excuses now” 40 more times
"It's all the media's fault they lost!" Who the hell are these people?
Kawhi needs to come back, learn hockey and save Toronto again. Really the shortest path to a Cup, to this day.
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I don't think anyone should be surprised and there is no need for excuses. The Bluejackets and Leafs are counters to each other and for this reason either team could have taken this series and why most predicted it being 5 games. CBJ are an impenetrable wall with few offensive weapons and the leafs are a glass cannon. There's a lot of talk that the top 4 forwards of TOR are being paid equivalent to the entire CBJ forwards, similarly (although not as ridiculously) CBJ top 4 defensemen are paid equivalent to the entire TOR defense. CBJ play a frustrating style, basically its like they're on the penalty kill during 5v5 and feed off of the turnovers for offence (borefest tbh, but it works). They kill the momentum of the play going into their zone, then box out in front of their net keeping everything to the outside. Its like the equivalent to parking the bus in soccer and is how weaker defensive teams are able to beat better rounded teams. TOR lost because they allowed this to frustrate them and that is directly related to errors in the coaching and leadership in the dressing room. That along with some bad puck luck and two really hot goaltenders is the simple reality in my opinion of the result of this series.
Wendel Clark for new Leafs head coach
If this was any other series everyone would be talking about how great CBJ was. But because it’s this team, everyone only talks about how they screwed it all up again.
The only person responsible is Dubas, he needs to go
bruh what😂😂no no, the people responsible are in the locker room. matthews, nylander, marner, tavares, where were they all series? you have arguably the best top 6 in the league with a solid top 4 and a solid goalie. how do you figure its on the gm?
reily farr he built a team with no grit and defence is weak , everytime he has chance to better the defence he adds forwards.. he theories of can just out score everyone has been proven wrong time and time again... like Sid said he got his roster he got his coach what’s his excuse.. he needs to go
A stifling defence will always make it almost difficult for a free wheeling offence to function. In the current playoff format, taking into consideration how the refs call the playoffs as well, defence is key, and hard work, and consistent hard work (not just with 4 minutes left) the whole game outlives skill pretty well all the time.
Why the leafs didn’t let marner walk is beyond me. He’s not worth that contract.
Marner and Tavares better be gone by next season.
cause dubas is a pushover
There were no battle scars. Just pretty faces.
The Leafs are a Ringette team LOL.
those saying to trade John tavares r out of ur mind, He is legit one of the best leafs forward
some of you guys just blame players and want them traded without know what they did for the team.
I understand if you said to trade mitch but he is really affective during the penatly kill so the leafs should keep him but lower his contract by 3 milllion so they can get better defense.
You can't just lower a contract the NHLPA and CBA gets involved there.
You can't just lower a player's CONTRACT because you don't like it after the fact. Marner was not signed because he played good team defense.
@@Jason-kz5zv yup Marner sold out team play in order to get paid he tries so hard to be Kane offensively.
Doesn’t JT have a full no movement clause in his contract?
John Tavares curse perhaps?
John Rambo of Harold Ballard
I'm a Jets fan and don't pay much attention to the Leafs....but.....this is almost tragic. A storied and proud franchise has come to this. My God.
Can’t spell leafs without a big fat L 😂😭😵
You mean you can't win a Stanley Cup with a calculator?
Home ice throughout the playoffs, a thrilling comeback in game 4, and they don't come away with it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Little less stats, little more heart. Interesting that the Caps had the same criticisms until they added Wilson and DSK.
Heart.
We are the Edmonton Oilers of the East, all Superstars with no Guts, no Glory, no Game!
You guys are worst than Edmonton. Don’t kid yourself.
Nah. Edmonton is worse lol. McDavid and Draisaitl and still havent even made the playoffs in 3 years
@@kakarotblake Edmonton's worse, but to act like McDavid and Draisaitl are the problem is a joke
@@tyefoster4935 I didn't say they were. They're far from it
@@kakarotblake fair enough
Our local news channel has a segment called "you paid for it" where a dude hunts down government officials responsible for funding projects that seem to just keep getting more and more money thrown at them despite never being completed. They should do an episode on the Leafs.
Laughs out of the playoffs and lost lottery in back to back days, great day to be a hockey fan !
Why do you hate the leafs?
K A personally don’t hate them. I wanna see them win but Toronto fans and Toronto media makes the rest of us dislike and even hate the leafs
Amitoj Chahal i dont really get why though. Like I never see leafs fans acting like we’re good (aside from like 10 year old kids on Instagram). I’m pretty sure leafs fans hate the leafs more than any leafs hater ever could lol. We know we’re a huge failure. I guess I kinda get your point with the media because Toronto gets a ton of media coverage but that’s just how population works. And most of the media coverage is pretty negative about leafs management and players too. And most of the comments I see of people hating the leafs are on videos like these. Like the video is very clearly going to be about the leafs. Why watch the video if you hate the leafs? I do see your point though and I’m assuming your a canucks fan and I’m definitely cheering for them against the blues on Wednesday
Not only that Carolina has their top 16 pick
I dont know what world these people live in. Most Leafs fans i know make fun of their team more than any other North American sports franchise. I seriously didnt hear 1 leafs fan think they were gunna win game 5 against Columbus.
Truth is it wasn’t bad coach Babs it was the rookie GM Dubas who doesn’t know what he’s doing. He gave way too much money to unproven players and they have no desire or heart. Get rid of Andersen and get a legit number 1 goalie. Coach Keefe isn’t the answer either.
Fire the GM “ Kyle Dubai ! ! “ Useless GM !!
Dubai is an economic wonder. They're also extremely rich and well off. Leafs are broke as hell. More than 1/3 of their cap is tied in on only a few players. They have no room to sign anyone else worthy. The Leafs as you know it will not make the playoffs anytime soon.
Firing the GM actually won't change anything. The Leafs have to focus on drafting and rebuilding.
Columbus Blue Jackets have seth Jones and zach werenski. The leafs have no defencemen of that caliber. Also in net korpisalo and we have freddy Andersen who has 3rd period black outs and freddy loses the game and that happens every year. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS THE PLAYOFFS. THAT IS WHY TORTS IS LAUGHING AT LEAF MGT. THAT IS WHY WE LOSE.
I have said this for years, place a team in Hamilton. I know how close it is to T.O.
Simple business Leafs have no local competition. Hamilton joins the league with an owner not beholden to Toronto mania will produce a winner in short order. IMHO
You cannot allow Hamilton to have an NHL franchise. Simple reason ? Because then Toronto will want on e too.
If only hamilton wasn't a slum...
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Maybe if the media and fans didn't pump up every player to superstar status who merely puts on the Uniform then you wouldn't get 8 million dollar players thinking they're 11 million dollar players.
“If you didn’t see this coming you’re an idiot.” THIS. THIS ALL DAY. As a Leafs fan for 30 years, I honestly want them to trade Matthews to the NY Islanders so I can go with him and trade in all my Leafs gear for Isles gear and NEVER look back.
Matthews would be the last guy to be traded
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@@Hockeyhobo89 other 40 goal scorers with no passion have been dealt before
No Guts, No Passion, Just Money!
Nylander was dominant, just like he said he would be. Lol
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You mispronounced dormant.
Trade him
He was better than at least 2 of the 3 people who are paid 10+ million dollar 🤷♂️
@@tigerchuu2148 C'mon man. Nylander is not that good. You can't disagree. Those 2 had a bad series. Nylander having a bad career
It's all about money. The leafs can pay big salaries. The Jackets smaller market requires distributing the money carefully. The organization spreads it out. A team emerges. No superstars. When Bobrosky became one, the team drew the salary line. He bolted. Money can't buy a championsip team.
I remember the Canucks did awesome with one top line the west coast express Morrison,nazlund, and Bertuzzi, the Leafs top line are the highest paid I understand the covid19 thing but next year is a loss if they can't get to the second round and then I think some guys need to go we need guys who want to play doesn't the maple leaf on the jersey mean anything anymore...... Pissed off fan but I still bleed blue get Wendel Clark as the head coach
That’s how fickle fans work “omg he’s so good, I love him” then “omg he’s garbage he needs to get traded” they did that to Cam Talbot here in Edmonton, and I can list almost every Oiler they’ve said that about
Happy the Leafs are gone so they can no longer clog up the news feed.
Couldn’t have said it any better. Almost everything is based off of Toronto
They're still going to clog up the news feed. It will be videos like this for the rest of the summer now
Brando Blake beat me to it
@@kakarotblake Yes, but it will be so much more enjoyable listening to the cry media and fans.
What was that article a few years back, that stated? "It's not if or when the Leafs are going to win the Stanley Cup, but how many times...." With their deep in young, fast, talented and creative forwards, a decent enough defence corp and solid goal-tending, not to mention half the top ten NHL prospects in their system, etc, etc. They were a dynasty in the making. They were even Vegas favourites at the start that season to win it all.....Well, look at you now. No guts, no glory.