The reason I like this is bcoz he's keeping his videos focused on the products he's reviewing. You don't have to watch some want to be special forces operator showing himself shooting and running around in battle gear . This is what I like to see, a review of the product and informative information 👏. I'm a subscriber now . 👍🇺🇸
Whoa. Your craft in producing content is impressive as hell. I wouldn’t ever consider purchasing an optic over $500 without first watching your review first.
@@19Clutch69 the objectives on MPVOs are bigger. A 2-10 is typically 40-44mm for the objective, although there are some in the upper 30s as well. Still a lot better than any LVPO.
The biggest impact to me is that at 1500 price range there's finally one can compete with the razor gen 2 1-6, this having huge advantages with great ffp reticle, 2x more mag ,size and weight. GJ to PA and . Great reviewer as always ! I also like how optics makers give very clear info to the reviewer and user about pros and cons of the product like this.
If you ask me the PA SLX-1-8x ACSS 2nd focal plane LPVO is already a better option than the razor. 2nd FP makes much more sense for a scope under 10x imo.
I made a comment on one of your videos years ago and I said something along the lines of “companies need to send this guy scopes to be reviewed”. I’m super happy this has been happening for you. Like I said in that same comment back then, no one shows the scope features and POV the way you do. Thank you.
I remember that comment! I called it something along the lines like 'a life goal' some companies are proud to have me review their stuff. And for that, I'm very honored to be able to help out both that company, and the community
I think the fact that the ceo sent this out to you for a detailed review speaks to volumes saying I think we created something really great for the money now let's show the people thoroughly what we got and put it to the test. I can stand by that as far as a company and ceo is concerned. I like what these guys are doing. I'm between the credo 1-6 and this right now. I want the razor but brown isn't a color I want nore do I want the weight. I want light weight and battle capable. The rest is training with what you are working with. As always thank you for the great review!
Great vid C I really enjoy the “all in one” longer video format Getting behind and using some lpvo’s for the first time last couple of months, I can appreciate your content so much more Keep up the excellent work!
This is what I've been asking for. Argos BTRgII comes close, just want better build, glass, turrets, and more refined reticle. PA applying this to a 2x12 would indeed be amazing.
The production value of your reviews sets a whole new standard! The meticulous breakdown, attention to detail should be a case study on how these should be done! Thanks for the review-definitely helped me in my decision to finally pull the trigger on the PLX line.
Primary Arms has really impressed me with their scopes. The glass quality suffers just a little in comparison to scopes significantly more expensive, but that really only becomes a factor at dawn and dusk. Once into the actual night I feel like it doesn't really matter. If there's enough artificial light for a high end scope to work, it's enough light for a lower end scope to work just based on contrast. If there's no artificial light, well you can't see anything with any scope.
Everything has its pros and cons when viewed properly. This is not without its flaws. But it's reasonably accepted for its price, build quality, and weight.
Well, I don't even need an optic. However, stumbling across one of your videos has turned into my replacement for Yellowstone! Your videos are superb and lenght. I could watch an hour for a single review. Excellent time spent, and I believe we all appreciate your efforts!!!!
Best optics reviewer on RUclips. You have not only changed the game but now others are actually giving optic reviews with a look through the optic itself. No more going off the reviewers word. Thank you for that.
Kudos to PA I’ve been looking at some of their scopes and would like to see quality reviews like C_DOES do before I purchase . Not just the high end products , but also the lower end budget friendly products I hope PA will send you more products to review in the near future
I'm totally impressed by this scope and this review. I just assumed .... in my ignorance......that PA just made junk. But this comes out of Japan and the 1x image looks GREAT. And it is very LIGHT. Great scope and great review!
Absolutely fantastic video, brother! I truly appreciate all the work you do to review such a wide variety of more common (budget friendly) and rare high end (big $$$$) scopes. The direct comp with the SAI-6 was so interesting to me. Shows how incredibly next level the glass is on the SAI (imho). Looking forward to more bro. Cheers!
You knocked this review out of the park. Awesome man. And if they made a plx 2-10 or 12 brother it would be king. Has anyone tried the Athlon helos 2-12? Idk I'm a die hard primary arms guy but between the glx and Athlon I really don't know. But regardless watched this entire video and just phenomenal job.
When he’s doing the shooting test.. the ‘pew pew’ that has to be a reference to Danny DeVito in ‘Its Always Sunny…’ when they are at Laser Tag.. pew pew 😅
I totally agree a 2-12 is an excellent middle ground. the 2 options I've found on the market are the Athlon Helos BTR 2-12 gen 2 and the Swampfox Kentucky Long 2-12. I think that both are good options and are at similar price points. I would love to see a direct comparison between the two on your channel.
Your thoughts mimic my own. I run mine on a 16" AR-10 with a piggybacked RDS. I leave the PLXc at about 4/5x. It really shines there While the RDS is best for CQB. If I'm prone, then I can crank the magnification, but offhand it's difficult above 6x. Total package with the Reptilia mount is still dainty compared to a Razor.
Awesome reviews. I love how you put emphasis on eye box, which is probably the most important aspect of a lpvo run and gun scope. I’m searching for a lpvo, and this scope is high on my list. Love the light weight. What would you say is your top 3 lpvo scopes in regards to eye box?
I have the prior version of the platinum one to eight and it’s one of the two or three best scopes. I have certainly the best lpvo I’ve ever tried only downside it was heavy, but I had everything else totally clear, daylight bright, amazing reticle
Great review. Love your format. Primary Arms is doing great things in the industry - truly disruptive and I appreciate them for that. It feels like PA listens to their end users (or maybe just uses some actual experience/logic) about 5x most other optic companies. So many SMH designs out there yet PA knocks it out of the park almost all of the time, even on their Chinesium stuff.
I have two of these on two DD AR15's (Raptor Reticle). I have them for about 2-3 months on Badger Ordnance mounts. I also have offset red dots on both setups. Anyway.......The PLX 1-8x is just a great optic and it was money well spent. I actually purchased both them before there was too much info on it. Of late I have seen several excellent reviews from some YT'ers that I really respect their opinion. CDoes being one of them for certain. The use of the Chevron Reticle make this optic fairly easy to use. PA just did a great job. I have read some comments that say "it not being day light bright makes it a non starter". I dont understand that logic but to each their own I guess. I believe its plenty bright enough, and to be honest I dont have the illumination on 95% of the time. The 4 heavy lines leading to the center reticle make it easy to use without being daylight brigh. I know I will probably be in the minority with this opinion, but shortly after I bought these I was able to look behind a Vortex Razor 1-10x LPVO. I just was not impressed with that at all. Again to each their own. Bottom line is if you are thinking about getting this optic - I believe you will be really happy with the purchase.
The only reason all these good reviews haven't driven me to impulse buy one of these is the 24mm objective. So glad PA is still using 1990s-era ideas on that one part of the scope, because everything else looks amazing. Thanks for the great reviews, as always, C_Does!
Did some research on objectives based on your comment. You might be onto something, though I wonder whether it's laziness or lack of technology that hinders...
If you go bigger on the front objective (28mm 30mm) you need more exotic optical formulas and glass compositions to reduce distortion at 1X. A 2lb, $3k scope for a tiny bit more light gathering ability is one way to go. Or still spend $3k but sacrifice eye box / FOV etc for weight. Another way is to forget LPVOs and get a 1.5X-X or 2X-X and mount a reflex sight on top of it for 1X. You’ll end up with a similar cost and weight but with a massively bigger objective, much better light gathering, a better eye box at higher magnification, parallax adjustment… This is one of the most optically modern LPVOs available it’s just that the design parameters are relatively modest and realistic: “a red dot that can zoom in” not a proper scope that also happens to also be a red dot”
@@tonyd9799 Then it sounds like we are still underdeveloped in those technologies, then. But when colleges are full of commies, of course developments suffer.
Marshall, thank you for making this review possible. I have a POF Revolution DI that would be perfect for this optic if you're still feeling generous LoL! Jokes aside, the reviews on this channel are second to none. I've been waiting for this particular one for sure. Great review.
Thanks for the review great job, although an 8x with a practically unusable 8x is a major bummer regardless of it's design. It's a 1-8x. May as well just buy a 1-5 or 6.
This was the review I've been waiting for and it was definitely worth the wait! Many thanks for doing it. The comparisons were awesome, how would you compare this to the Razor Gen III? Especially interested in comparison to the eye box. Thanks!
I think you may have been a little too nice on this. You didn't cover the door frames or windowsills not lining up like you normally would. I had a feeling the eyebox was too tight on this one, and it was. I can't run it like that, I'm about to pitch the Razor Gen III for this reason. Looks like I'm going to be getting a SAI 6, and an ATACR 1-8. Thanks for getting it out and saving me from being upset with it. The 8x is too fuzzy, and the eyebox is not where it's at.
I returned my plx 1-8 because the eyebox was very tight at 8x, and more tight than the sai 1-6 overall. What’s the point of 8x if it’s not very usable? Still have my sai 1-6 but I’m considering getting rid of it since I’m not convinced lpvos are for me. I piggyback a t2 so a mpvo seem s better for me with the exception that a lpvo gives me a backup 1x sighting system.
@@MexicanNinja82 I still appreciate it, but I would be worried about depriving you of the optic and I'm super careful with things that aren't mine/would be worried I would scratch it or something. Then my father would teleport to wherever I am just to give me whoopins for not listening to him lol.
Have you seen the dark lord of optics review? Just another knowledgeable opinion. I am really impressed with my copy, I have not noted and fuzziness at the top end. The eye box is tight but that just a trade off made to keep it so small and light. Fov and eyebox are much better than the nx8 which I would say is the main competitor.
That is awesome. I love primary arms. I love their products at their price point. But at $1500 I would buy a trijicon. Now... I have said that before about Holosun VS trijicon and I now how Holosuns on my carry gun over the RMR just because of the battery accessibility and the solar backup.
Just picked up the Swampfox 2-12. I’ll take the 2X magnification and ability to actually use the thing at 8x plus vs having to have the latest wiz-bang 1-whatever insisting on getting out of its lane like all these 1-8/1-10’s. Great stuff as always. Put an offset on a 2/2.5-10/12 and get way more bang for your buck IMO. Great stuff as always 👊🏻
@@chrisflores5541 are you sure? Price point yes, but primary arms does have to pay for all of the reviews they pay for somehow, don’t they. Have you actually looked through both?
@@infotechsailor I think spending 400 on the Swampfox you’re getting way more than you’re paying for. Eye box is also better than every single 1-10 on the market as as good or better than every 1-8. Including the 2 grand stuff. It’s worth every penny and then some.
Received mine 2 days ago, I had the meter model back ordered since Aug. I knew I knew I’d been waiting, so I’m not complaining. I’m going to get it zeroed today. Can’t wait!
The illum cutting out on the leupold is a feature, it let's you know your off center and therefore you know you are minimizing parallax at distance if it's lit up
I wonder what this thing in a 34mm tube would be like? I too would love to see a solid 2-12x would be great, I really just wish the credo 2-10x didn’t have its issues but because that thing has the ideal reticle imo for that type of optic.
I really wish that primary arms would have used something like the nova reticle in this optic. Had they done that this choice would be a no brainer. between this and the razor 1-6 what would be your pick? the extra 2x doesn't make a whole lot of difference as most my shooting is 300yds and in. and the weight difference for me doesn't sway me one way or the other. appreciate all your content.
@@ChappySinclair Nothing yet. Being patient for the right scope for me and my setup. Viper pst II 1-6 has been 100% solid, though lacks capability at 400+ that I want. Top contender is actually the Leupold mk4hd 2.5-10. Just waiting for pr2 reticle, but that may be forever.
@@ChappySinclair I've seen both now. They are honestly both excellent. If that is what is the best for your setup, and you understand the trade-offs', you won't be disappointed in either. I realized i wanted more glass and magnification, especially with a offset/12' red dot. The trade off with weight and size it worth it to me and where I shoot 95% of the time.
On my plx c, I get a weird reticle reflection even on low brightness setting when wearing glasses. Almost like two horseshoe reticle connected to the center reticle. I get it sometimes without glasses on as well. Not sure if it’s a deal breaker yet
Awesome optic! I would have ordered one of these already, but my hold up is: I like the ability to dial once you hit that 8x range and when spending $1500. So the exposed turrets are an awesome idea, however the thick chevron (I would think, without looking through it on a target) would cover too much of your target when dialing. No horizontal mil stadia for wind hold offs either, so dialing this optic seems like a less than enjoyable experience. If this had a thinner/smaller chevron or a center dot with horizontal stadia, 👌🏻 Love the FCDMx reticle, but then they capped the NX8 turrets and it has .2 mil clicks. Damnit. Combine these 2 optics features! Haha.
@@1lostinspace sure they do. Plenty of people dial with 8x/10x upper magnification depending on the target they’re shooting/how much time they have on a stage. I’m saying having the option to dial is worth it in a more expensive optic in 8x/10x.
Well damn I have the new GLx 1-6x FFP Griffin-M6 on my 300blk and maybe I don't know enough to agree, but I've taken my little 10.3" Ballistic Advantage AR Pistol build out to 600 yards on that scope, I love the reticle, the auto live illumination is great and it's clear as I could ever need with the glass quality. Hoping the upcoming Primary Arms GLx 1-10x24 FFP is just as good for a 16" 5.56 gun I'm going to get this Christmas or else I'll have to pony up the cash for this optic instead, glad to see other than missing 2x on the top end I won't be disappointed! Excellent overview!
What’s up C ? I’ve been shooting for years in all different exercises and guns. I’ve just recently decided to rescope my AR . I really appreciate your dedication toward scope reviews!!! My choice before coming to your channel was the primary arms GLX FFP 1-6 x24 ACSS Raptor -M6. I haven’t received it yet , but already wishing I didn’t order it. May even send it back before I mount it. I sure would like to know what your go to , best scope in FFP would be. Anyway thanks again for your great work !! PS. Did you ever do a review on Burris XTR II 1-5-24 ?
How would I go about getting in touch with you if I wanted to send you my unopened NF nx8 1-8 w/ FC-Dmx reticle to review/compare to this? I wouldn’t be asking for anything in return, not even a shoutout or anything lol. You have such good quality videos and I just would love to see how it stacks up.
I'd love to see a PLX second focal plane 1-6 or 8. I have this compact scope and its amazing, but i wonder what they could do with a top quality sfp scope.
AWESOME Review! I have a HK SL8 and need a scope. I was thinking of getting a Trijicon Credo 1-8x28mm (with the 34mm tube, but not the HD model). I also wanted the Swampfox 2-12x44mm Kentucky Long; however, the large objective lens and necessary high mounting on a stupidly high rifle rail might be a problem. Any suggestions?
13:50 shows one of my gripes with this scope. I didn’t notice it in those video before I purchased mine, but if my head is ever so slightly off in the small eyebox, the reticle pulls/doubles. Look at the vertical ranging bars and you’ll see what im talking about.
This thing is impressive. I wish I liked LPVOs.
LPVOs are dead
People still have lpvos? I thought king Lucas told us to destroy or surrender them.. I love my new ACOG. 😂
Hop likes this more than a Elcan 😂
Lpvos are so last month.
*Acog fanboys intensify
The reason I like this is bcoz he's keeping his videos focused on the products he's reviewing. You don't have to watch some want to be special forces operator showing himself shooting and running around in battle gear . This is what I like to see, a review of the product and informative information 👏. I'm a subscriber now . 👍🇺🇸
You don't have to listen to my reviews to learn everything you need from my videos. Show, don't tell.
@C_DOES well if I don't listen to you then it would be hard to know what you describe and to hear your thoughts/ opinions on the product. 👍
You’re “phew, phew” gunshot sound effects were so good, I actually ducked and sought cover.
Whoa. Your craft in producing content is impressive as hell. I wouldn’t ever consider purchasing an optic over $500 without first watching your review first.
He's the only RUclipsr that does reviews like this. We're thankful for you C
Dark lord of optics is another one. He’s an optical engineer. Extraordinary info from him.
@@RADIOACTIVEBUNY thank you for that brother
@@RADIOACTIVEBUNY thank you for that brother
Much obliged mate!
To Primary Arms it would be a nice tool to be able to to see an in-depth review like this
on every optic . Thanks for letting C_DOES review your scope
Thanks mate!
This is on my list for a 14.5 build. I second your desire for a 2-12 built around the same platform. Locking turrets and keep it under 22 oz.
I'm still hoping man
I would like to see them add a 2-10 or 2-12 in a compact form factor, if possible. I feel that could be RELATIVELY possible.
Worried about the same cons..wish for a bigger objective..
@@19Clutch69 the objectives on MPVOs are bigger. A 2-10 is typically 40-44mm for the objective, although there are some in the upper 30s as well. Still a lot better than any LVPO.
Dude...mid power is what i want as well.
I've talked to PA about this. They don't have any plans to create such a perfect optic
@@CDOES depressing..
The biggest impact to me is that at 1500 price range there's finally one can compete with the razor gen 2 1-6, this having huge advantages with great ffp reticle, 2x more mag ,size and weight. GJ to PA and . Great reviewer as always ! I also like how optics makers give very clear info to the reviewer and user about pros and cons of the product like this.
Thanks mate. I'd Love to see a lightweight sfp 1-6 plxc. Just to see how good it could be. Probably be a damn bit cheaper as well
If you ask me the PA SLX-1-8x ACSS 2nd focal plane LPVO is already a better option than the razor.
2nd FP makes much more sense for a scope under 10x imo.
100% agreed; I hope they can make it happen….now with the NOVA out, I think people would like to see some hybrid of the two, if that’s possible.
I made a comment on one of your videos years ago and I said something along the lines of “companies need to send this guy scopes to be reviewed”. I’m super happy this has been happening for you. Like I said in that same comment back then, no one shows the scope features and POV the way you do. Thank you.
I remember that comment! I called it something along the lines like 'a life goal' some companies are proud to have me review their stuff. And for that, I'm very honored to be able to help out both that company, and the community
I think the fact that the ceo sent this out to you for a detailed review speaks to volumes saying I think we created something really great for the money now let's show the people thoroughly what we got and put it to the test. I can stand by that as far as a company and ceo is concerned.
I like what these guys are doing.
I'm between the credo 1-6 and this right now.
I want the razor but brown isn't a color I want nore do I want the weight. I want light weight and battle capable. The rest is training with what you are working with. As always thank you for the great review!
Great vid C
I really enjoy the “all in one” longer video format
Getting behind and using some lpvo’s for the first time last couple of months, I can appreciate your content so much more
Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks mate!
A 2-12 in all they're ranges would be amazing!
This is what I've been asking for. Argos BTRgII comes close, just want better build, glass, turrets, and more refined reticle. PA applying this to a 2x12 would indeed be amazing.
Trek me about it. I'm trying to tell them it would sell so well
That would be legit
The production value of your reviews sets a whole new standard! The meticulous breakdown, attention to detail should be a case study on how these should be done! Thanks for the review-definitely helped me in my decision to finally pull the trigger on the PLX line.
@@COUREURSdesBOIS88 cheers mate!
Primary Arms has really impressed me with their scopes. The glass quality suffers just a little in comparison to scopes significantly more expensive, but that really only becomes a factor at dawn and dusk. Once into the actual night I feel like it doesn't really matter. If there's enough artificial light for a high end scope to work, it's enough light for a lower end scope to work just based on contrast. If there's no artificial light, well you can't see anything with any scope.
Everything has its pros and cons when viewed properly. This is not without its flaws. But it's reasonably accepted for its price, build quality, and weight.
Your reviews are so good. I wouldn’t buy anything without seeing your review.
You flatter me 🥰
@@CDOES your knowledge base of optics is way beyond mine. It would be silly not to listen to someone who is behind glass very often.
Well, I don't even need an optic. However, stumbling across one of your videos has turned into my replacement for Yellowstone!
Your videos are superb and lenght. I could watch an hour for a single review.
Excellent time spent, and I believe we all appreciate your efforts!!!!
🥰 What a compliment! Appreciated mate!
Best optics reviewer on RUclips. You have not only changed the game but now others are actually giving optic reviews with a look through the optic itself. No more going off the reviewers word. Thank you for that.
This guy is the best on RUclips at giving a detailed breakdown of optics’ pros and cons.
Kudos to PA I’ve been looking at some of their scopes and would like to see quality reviews like C_DOES do before I purchase . Not just the high end products , but also the lower end budget friendly products I hope PA will send you more products to review in the near future
PA has been very understanding and receptive of my findings, both good and bad. They want to make the best possible product for the community
Yes and amen to a plx 1.5-10 or 2-12
I’m with you on the 2-12 maybe even 3-15 PLX
I'm totally impressed by this scope and this review. I just assumed .... in my ignorance......that PA just made junk. But this comes out of Japan and the 1x image looks GREAT. And it is very LIGHT. Great scope and great review!
Absolutely fantastic video, brother! I truly appreciate all the work you do to review such a wide variety of more common (budget friendly) and rare high end (big $$$$) scopes. The direct comp with the SAI-6 was so interesting to me. Shows how incredibly next level the glass is on the SAI (imho). Looking forward to more bro. Cheers!
Thank you kindly brother. The sai6 is top tier ffp 1-6. The reticle needs work tho.
Brilliant review. Love the look of reticle on this.
You make the best optic videos, brother. Thanks for the information
You knocked this review out of the park. Awesome man. And if they made a plx 2-10 or 12 brother it would be king. Has anyone tried the Athlon helos 2-12? Idk I'm a die hard primary arms guy but between the glx and Athlon I really don't know. But regardless watched this entire video and just phenomenal job.
When he’s doing the shooting test.. the ‘pew pew’ that has to be a reference to Danny DeVito in ‘Its Always Sunny…’ when they are at Laser Tag.. pew pew 😅
So anyway, I started Blasting!
Looking forward to your review of the upcoming SFP PLxC Nova! Did Primary Arms send you one by chance?
I totally agree a 2-12 is an excellent middle ground. the 2 options I've found on the market are the Athlon Helos BTR 2-12 gen 2 and the Swampfox Kentucky Long 2-12. I think that both are good options and are at similar price points. I would love to see a direct comparison between the two on your channel.
Throw in the Primary Arms GLx 2.5-10 with the ACSS MIL-Grid Griffin reticle.
Your thoughts mimic my own. I run mine on a 16" AR-10 with a piggybacked RDS. I leave the PLXc at about 4/5x. It really shines there While the RDS is best for CQB. If I'm prone, then I can crank the magnification, but offhand it's difficult above 6x. Total package with the Reptilia mount is still dainty compared to a Razor.
Awesome reviews. I love how you put emphasis on eye box, which is probably the most important aspect of a lpvo run and gun scope.
I’m searching for a lpvo, and this scope is high on my list. Love the light weight.
What would you say is your top 3 lpvo scopes in regards to eye box?
Man I wish you could review everything. Such great commentary.
I have the prior version of the platinum one to eight and it’s one of the two or three best scopes. I have certainly the best lpvo I’ve ever tried only downside it was heavy, but I had everything else totally clear, daylight bright, amazing reticle
Great review. Love your format. Primary Arms is doing great things in the industry - truly disruptive and I appreciate them for that. It feels like PA listens to their end users (or maybe just uses some actual experience/logic) about 5x most other optic companies. So many SMH designs out there yet PA knocks it out of the park almost all of the time, even on their Chinesium stuff.
I have two of these on two DD AR15's (Raptor Reticle). I have them for about 2-3 months on Badger Ordnance mounts. I also have offset red dots on both setups.
Anyway.......The PLX 1-8x is just a great optic and it was money well spent. I actually purchased both them before there was too much info on it. Of late I have seen several excellent reviews from some YT'ers that I really respect their opinion. CDoes being one of them for certain.
The use of the Chevron Reticle make this optic fairly easy to use. PA just did a great job.
I have read some comments that say "it not being day light bright makes it a non starter". I dont understand that logic but to each their own I guess. I believe its plenty bright enough, and to be honest I dont have the illumination on 95% of the time. The 4 heavy lines leading to the center reticle make it easy to use without being daylight brigh.
I know I will probably be in the minority with this opinion, but shortly after I bought these I was able to look behind a Vortex Razor 1-10x LPVO. I just was not impressed with that at all. Again to each their own.
Bottom line is if you are thinking about getting this optic - I believe you will be really happy with the purchase.
Thank you for this review. I really wish they can make a 3-15 plx at about 21 oz or less.
The only reason all these good reviews haven't driven me to impulse buy one of these is the 24mm objective. So glad PA is still using 1990s-era ideas on that one part of the scope, because everything else looks amazing.
Thanks for the great reviews, as always, C_Does!
Did some research on objectives based on your comment. You might be onto something, though I wonder whether it's laziness or lack of technology that hinders...
If you go bigger on the front objective (28mm 30mm) you need more exotic optical formulas and glass compositions to reduce distortion at 1X. A 2lb, $3k scope for a tiny bit more light gathering ability is one way to go. Or still spend $3k but sacrifice eye box / FOV etc for weight. Another way is to forget LPVOs and get a 1.5X-X or 2X-X and mount a reflex sight on top of it for 1X.
You’ll end up with a similar cost and weight but with a massively bigger objective, much better light gathering, a better eye box at higher magnification, parallax adjustment…
This is one of the most optically modern LPVOs available it’s just that the design parameters are relatively modest and realistic: “a red dot that can zoom in” not a proper scope that also happens to also be a red dot”
@@tonyd9799 Then it sounds like we are still underdeveloped in those technologies, then. But when colleges are full of commies, of course developments suffer.
Will you do a review on the PLXC SFP NOVA??? need the comparison to help make up my mind
@@benoswald9431 the full review is on the way!
Thanks for the detailed review. I’ve had my eye on this for a while. It’s going to sit on a DD5 V3 in a high mount. Should do the job.
So a mid-range reticle in an FFP optic that works best in the bottom half of its mag range?
@C_does any short thoughts on plxc nova? Have the slx now
Marshall, thank you for making this review possible. I have a POF Revolution DI that would be perfect for this optic if you're still feeling generous LoL!
Jokes aside, the reviews on this channel are second to none. I've been waiting for this particular one for sure. Great review.
Meter BDC reticle is the way to go. Fantastic!
I've been waiting for this review for so so long. I've been on the fence on this scope for a while. Here's to hoping it's a home run.
I wouldn't trade my PA ACSS optics for anything out there! Love them!
I have the older plx 1-8 and it’s my fav scope by far just heavy. Been on a scar 17.
Pew! Pew, pew pew!
Thank you for being your genuine self.
I have one of these. My first LPVO. It’s pretty fantastic.
Thank you sir for the hard work that was put into this review. This has made a fantastic impact on my purchasing options going forward.
Please tell us your thoughts on this vs NF NX8. Both premium 1-8 FFP compacts with xmas tree reticles. That would be a great comparison.
Especially the new NX8 1-8 with capped turrets and a new reticle
Whoa! Id loved the f1 NX8 mpvo variants
Good to see an independent review on this as opposed to all the shill content out there
I wouldn’t call 9 hole or Supersetca shills
@@sumblakdude9 he means the obvious ones like Kotaboy, Rex, Countrymash, Military Arms, the douche ”Weapon Snatcher,” etc.
Great video as always. I would love to hear your take on the VCOG 1-8 if you happen to get your hands on one in the near future.
Such a cool scope, weighs more than a motherfucker though
Thanks for the review great job, although an 8x with a practically unusable 8x is a major bummer regardless of it's design. It's a 1-8x. May as well just buy a 1-5 or 6.
This was the review I've been waiting for and it was definitely worth the wait! Many thanks for doing it. The comparisons were awesome, how would you compare this to the Razor Gen III? Especially interested in comparison to the eye box. Thanks!
This is by far one if the best bang for your buck
He did the review! 😁😁
Would you consider this to be a better buy than the Razor Gen II E 1-6? Both are pretty close if not the same in price.
The Pew Pew is classic...I think you got them all in the garage bro. Good hunting.
I think you may have been a little too nice on this. You didn't cover the door frames or windowsills not lining up like you normally would. I had a feeling the eyebox was too tight on this one, and it was. I can't run it like that, I'm about to pitch the Razor Gen III for this reason. Looks like I'm going to be getting a SAI 6, and an ATACR 1-8. Thanks for getting it out and saving me from being upset with it. The 8x is too fuzzy, and the eyebox is not where it's at.
I returned my plx 1-8 because the eyebox was very tight at 8x, and more tight than the sai 1-6 overall. What’s the point of 8x if it’s not very usable? Still have my sai 1-6 but I’m considering getting rid of it since I’m not convinced lpvos are for me. I piggyback a t2 so a mpvo seem s better for me with the exception that a lpvo gives me a backup 1x sighting system.
My offer still stands brotha, I’ll send you mine to do your review.
@@MexicanNinja82 I still appreciate it, but I would be worried about depriving you of the optic and I'm super careful with things that aren't mine/would be worried I would scratch it or something. Then my father would teleport to wherever I am just to give me whoopins for not listening to him lol.
Have you seen the dark lord of optics review? Just another knowledgeable opinion. I am really impressed with my copy, I have not noted and fuzziness at the top end. The eye box is tight but that just a trade off made to keep it so small and light. Fov and eyebox are much better than the nx8 which I would say is the main competitor.
Thought about trying some mvpo's since lvpos were cancelled by metoo? CDoes likes the swampfox kentucky long
That is awesome. I love primary arms. I love their products at their price point. But at $1500 I would buy a trijicon. Now... I have said that before about Holosun VS trijicon and I now how Holosuns on my carry gun over the RMR just because of the battery accessibility and the solar backup.
Just picked up the Swampfox 2-12. I’ll take the 2X magnification and ability to actually use the thing at 8x plus vs having to have the latest wiz-bang 1-whatever insisting on getting out of its lane like all these 1-8/1-10’s. Great stuff as always. Put an offset on a 2/2.5-10/12 and get way more bang for your buck IMO. Great stuff as always 👊🏻
How do you like it after using it?
Not even remotely in the same price point/ quality as this. Lol
@@chrisflores5541 are you sure? Price point yes, but primary arms does have to pay for all of the reviews they pay for somehow, don’t they. Have you actually looked through both?
@@infotechsailor I think spending 400 on the Swampfox you’re getting way more than you’re paying for. Eye box is also better than every single 1-10 on the market as as good or better than every 1-8. Including the 2 grand stuff. It’s worth every penny and then some.
@@mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956 are you implying that positive reviews like this are paid advertising by PA and are inherently inaccurate?
The fact they have a life time warranty is The major selling point for me. I just ordered this thing. It better be good as it cost more than my rifle.
I just got mine mounted, it is an amazing pice of glass. Not perfect, 8x is very tight, but a hella find job they did
The first responder price for the PLXc drops down to $1,099 so I think it’s an absolute must if you have that.
is that if you buy from primary arms?
@@wcsdiariesyes
Received mine 2 days ago, I had the meter model back ordered since Aug. I knew I knew I’d been waiting, so I’m not complaining.
I’m going to get it zeroed today. Can’t wait!
PLEASEEEEEEEEEE PRIMARY! Please give us a 2-12 that is light weight! 🙏
Thanks for the review.
This PLxC, or the Razor Gen2E for competition?
Past 300, PA.
Under 300, Razor.
I was waiting for this one, I literally just bought this exact LPVO.
I've been looking forward to this...
Good timing, right as I have one loaded in my cart trying to make a decision
The illum cutting out on the leupold is a feature, it let's you know your off center and therefore you know you are minimizing parallax at distance if it's lit up
Best lpvo I've ever looked through, massive fov, nice reticle, and glass on par with the vortex all while being weightless.
How does the eyebox compare to the razor gen 2 e?
Brother been following you for a minute, keep it up!
Would really dig a comparison with the nx8
Another great in-depth review and a nice looking optic thanks
I wonder what this thing in a 34mm tube would be like? I too would love to see a solid 2-12x would be great, I really just wish the credo 2-10x didn’t have its issues but because that thing has the ideal reticle imo for that type of optic.
I really wish that primary arms would have used something like the nova reticle in this optic. Had they done that this choice would be a no brainer. between this and the razor 1-6 what would be your pick? the extra 2x doesn't make a whole lot of difference as most my shooting is 300yds and in. and the weight difference for me doesn't sway me one way or the other. appreciate all your content.
Been waiting for your review on this C. I'm between this and the updated NX8 -1-8
@@ChappySinclair Nothing yet. Being patient for the right scope for me and my setup. Viper pst II 1-6 has been 100% solid, though lacks capability at 400+ that I want. Top contender is actually the Leupold mk4hd 2.5-10. Just waiting for pr2 reticle, but that may be forever.
@@ChappySinclair I've seen both now. They are honestly both excellent. If that is what is the best for your setup, and you understand the trade-offs', you won't be disappointed in either. I realized i wanted more glass and magnification, especially with a offset/12' red dot. The trade off with weight and size it worth it to me and where I shoot 95% of the time.
On my plx c, I get a weird reticle reflection even on low brightness setting when wearing glasses. Almost like two horseshoe reticle connected to the center reticle. I get it sometimes without glasses on as well. Not sure if it’s a deal breaker yet
Been waiting on this C_DOES review
any time frame for a review on the new plxc nova?
This PLXC vs the Razor genII E 1-6, what's your pick?
The PLXC. Not even close.
@@jeffreylc bought one, totally agree
Well done video sir. Ty
When you going to do the 1-8 Nova reticle?
Good job!
Very serious and honest
Thanks u sir
Awesome optic! I would have ordered one of these already, but my hold up is: I like the ability to dial once you hit that 8x range and when spending $1500. So the exposed turrets are an awesome idea, however the thick chevron (I would think, without looking through it on a target) would cover too much of your target when dialing. No horizontal mil stadia for wind hold offs either, so dialing this optic seems like a less than enjoyable experience. If this had a thinner/smaller chevron or a center dot with horizontal stadia, 👌🏻
Love the FCDMx reticle, but then they capped the NX8 turrets and it has .2 mil clicks. Damnit. Combine these 2 optics features! Haha.
Nobody really dials in a lpvo, the chevron allows you to see it at lower powers yet not obstruct
@@1lostinspace sure they do. Plenty of people dial with 8x/10x upper magnification depending on the target they’re shooting/how much time they have on a stage. I’m saying having the option to dial is worth it in a more expensive optic in 8x/10x.
Well damn I have the new GLx 1-6x FFP Griffin-M6 on my 300blk and maybe I don't know enough to agree, but I've taken my little 10.3" Ballistic Advantage AR Pistol build out to 600 yards on that scope, I love the reticle, the auto live illumination is great and it's clear as I could ever need with the glass quality.
Hoping the upcoming Primary Arms GLx 1-10x24 FFP is just as good for a 16" 5.56 gun I'm going to get this Christmas or else I'll have to pony up the cash for this optic instead, glad to see other than missing 2x on the top end I won't be disappointed! Excellent overview!
So love mine. It is on my HCS Mk12 now. May get another.
What’s up C ? I’ve been shooting for years in all different exercises and guns. I’ve just recently decided to rescope my AR . I really appreciate your dedication toward scope reviews!!! My choice before coming to your channel was the primary arms GLX FFP 1-6 x24 ACSS Raptor -M6. I haven’t received it yet , but already wishing I didn’t order it. May even send it back before I mount it. I sure would like to know what your go to , best scope in FFP would be. Anyway thanks again for your great work !!
PS. Did you ever do a review on Burris XTR II 1-5-24 ?
Awesome review
How would I go about getting in touch with you if I wanted to send you my unopened NF nx8 1-8 w/ FC-Dmx reticle to review/compare to this? I wouldn’t be asking for anything in return, not even a shoutout or anything lol. You have such good quality videos and I just would love to see how it stacks up.
@C_DOES ^^^^^^^
I'd love to see a PLX second focal plane 1-6 or 8. I have this compact scope and its amazing, but i wonder what they could do with a top quality sfp scope.
awesome review!
Aimpoint needs to take notes on packaging! I thought I ordered a knock off when my m5s arrived. Very nice optic, even better video!
AWESOME Review! I have a HK SL8 and need a scope. I was thinking of getting a Trijicon Credo 1-8x28mm (with the 34mm tube, but not the HD model). I also wanted the Swampfox 2-12x44mm Kentucky Long; however, the large objective lens and necessary high mounting on a stupidly high rifle rail might be a problem. Any suggestions?
here for the pews
Excellent review as usual. Will you review a Eotech Vudu 1-10?
Awesome scope !!!
13:50 shows one of my gripes with this scope. I didn’t notice it in those video before I purchased mine, but if my head is ever so slightly off in the small eyebox, the reticle pulls/doubles. Look at the vertical ranging bars and you’ll see what im talking about.
Great review as always. Any plans on doing the vudu 1-10 in the future?