Her twisting form is so good, that I believe she could definitely do it. Ultimately it’s up to her if she feels like it will be ready and not too dangerous. This vault is huge and should definitely be worth more than 5.8. I hate that FIG undervalued twisting skills.
My worry is the pressure of doing it for the first time on the biggest stage in the world. She’s a great gymnast and I would feel more optimistic if she had already done it at another lesser competition. It would be cool if she did.
Hate to say it but quite a few gymnasts have trained this vault. Maroney, Biles, Un-jong, Skinner... Aside from Un-jong (I believe in Rio?) who failed to make all 3 rotations noone has ever tried to compete it. Ofcourse I'd love Rebecca to nail this but I hate these like "unofficial named skill" videos that act like cause it's thrown about in training into a pit it's suddenly realistic. Clickbait af
Rebeca só o fará se sentir que está preparada, se ela se sentir confiante e confortável, ela sabe do se potencial, ela já se provou e escrever se nome na ginástica do Brasil, ela não tem a prentençao de se melhor que a Biles, acho que para ela tudo bem a Biles ficar com o ouro, para nós Brasileiros está tudo bem O USA ficar com todos os ouros de Paris( e provavelmente serão campeao por conta da Biles, pois se não fosse ela nós teríamos uma competição equilibrada entre USA e China). Só queremos que a Rebeca, a Flávia, Jade e Júlia passem bem e Saudável, só quero uma final segura para elas. Medalha sera apenas 3, todas treinaram, todas lutaram para está lá, todas merecem serem respeitadas, ainda mais em uma competição que subjetiva e depende da interpretação do outro, que pode ou não ser imparcial.
Rebeca Andrade is simply a PHENOMENAL vaulter! She flies high from the amazing block she gets, and her form is always on point. Like all other vaults however, it likely won't be given the difficulty score it deserves, which is unfortunate, but she'll still have an incredibly difficult skill named after her if completed at the Games, and nothing can take that from her once accomplished!
I can't believe how many skills are being pushed! Simone Biles has truly propelled the sport forward, and Andrade is clearly making her mark even deeper. I can't WAIT for Paris 2024!!
This vault is very difficult 😑 trying to get 3 twists around with no margin for error or simply being just short because there is not alot of time to get it around all the way. It appears in training that she is very close but in reality if you land short a significant injury may result as you don't know where you are while twisting. I truly hope she does attempt and make it. Make it her own. As a former gymnast a triple on floor was extremely difficult to get all the way around but on vault 😲 oh my goodness. Good luck Rebecca I'm very anxious to see how it turns out
I don't much about gymnastics, other than a casually watching for years, but to me this young lady's performances are stunning. She seems to have the perfect combination of skill, talent and grace. She is a lovely addition to her sport.
Well, I find that the recent video from CBG showing her training it (likely over a very soft mat or possibly over a foam pit) is actually very promising. She seems to be finishing the 2.5 twists around 30-40 cm (~1 ft) above where the ground likely is, which means she has enough time to finish the last 0.5 twist and land comfortably. The Korean gymnast was definitely not prepared/powerful enough for it and kept landing with 1/4 twist missing, which is absolutely terrible and I'm amazed she didn't obliterate her ACL like that. But I believe Rebeca is very attuned to her body and capabilities nowadays and she won't go for it if she doesn't feel springy enough to get the necessary height to safely complete all 3 twists during vault finals. Or if she messes up her block or whatever. She's aware that another Olympic vault gold medal and a named skill is not worth ending her career for. She could get it named next year if she's not fully confident in it for Paris. But from the most recent videos it seems like she is currently able to land it safely, given a very good run and block of course. She's a fast twister, as seen by her amazing Chengs.
@sleepy5017 -- I am worried about Rebecca as well. She is an amazing gymnast and phenomenal vaulter, but that kind of twisting is really hard on the knees and ankles. I just worry about Rebecca's health. She has already had so many injuries that I would absolutely hate it if she has another career-threatening injury. I want to see her around for many years to come!
I love Rebe so much and I want to hear her name live on, but more importantly I want her knee fully recovered! I hope that Francisco and the national team aren't putting any pressure on her to do it now if Jakarta is a safer idea... 😢
In my opinion, Rebecca is one of the top 3 vaulters in women’s history. Simone (because of difficulty, ingenuity, and tenure), McKayla M (the highest and most iconic Amanar we’ve ever seen) and Rebecca for having the best Cheng in the world.
Hong honestly looked pretty good in that training clip.. but also at the vault finals even if she didn't fall, the skill wouldnt have been named after her bc she was only credited for an Amanar, so she could've landed on her feet anyways but she didn't complete the 3 rotations before touching the mat
@@TwistedApple ..because she had extra height and stabilization from the coach. The issue is getting all that height to be able to complete the twists safely. And we know Hong wasn't he cleanest by far, her Cheng always stressed me out cause she was clearly whipping it around and hoping for the best. She wasn't tight enough in her twisting to land the Amanar comfortably with extra time, so I think it was pretty crazy of her to go for the TTY, but it's North Korea, so the wellbeing of the athletes is usually not their main priority.
I'm so excited and I hope she can perform it healthily. I feel bad that the video was released earlier than she wanted, but it will give so much excitement to see if she'll do it in the games.
the only issue with her TTY attempts is she doesn't rotate fast enough to complete all 3 rotations. her chest is open for too long and it slows her down significantly.
That sounds a bit strange, considering she always gets her Amanar very comfortably around, but struggles to land it precisely, in terms of ideal finishing position. Over the last cycle we've seen her land it almost always with a big bounce forward, because she's probably over-powering it out of safety. She might also just prefer backwards landings and want to train the triple because she has the height and twisting speed for it. It's possible the Amanar feels weird to her because she's been doing the DTY for so long, alongside the Cheng, so now adding only a half twist to land forward may be hard to calibrate. But idk, I'm not in her head and I'm not even a gymnast, I just love watching this sport. From the most recent video it seems like she can land the TTY safely, based on the height she's at before the last 0.5 twist, and I'm sure she won't take unnecessary risks to her knees just for another gold medal, given how well her career is going. I hope Simone goes after her, so that she's not swayed by anything that happens and only makes the decision based on her gut in the moment.
I doubt that she’ll debut it at the Paris Olympics. It’s too risky, she could end up finishing off the podium. At least she could still get the silver medal if she sticks to the Cheng and the Amanar.
She didn't even mean for this video to be released, the Brazilian Olympic Committee leaked it without her knowledge, so either she meant to keep it a secret for Paris or they're hyping it up when it's not even ready.
I think we could see this in Paris games. However, I think where here vault rotation lays could have an influence as well. If it’s early? She may feel fresh and able to get the power needed to safely land. She’s a smart competitor. She won’t risk metal contention just for the sake of a name sake. These games have some heavy hitter gymnasts on their A-game. Going to be one exciting Olympic Games!
@@kitenne4944 agreed. This is just the footage they wanted the public to see. Just to rile everyone up. I don’t think anybody thinking strategically would show their hand
@@bleeka325strategically how? Like if they revealed a real triple twisting yurchenko all the girlies are just gonna suddenly bust theirs out too to compete? Idk man this isn't a particularly strategic sport but i guess if it's a truly legit vault we'll all have to speculate the reasoning for sharing this weirdly specific and underperfomed video clip...
@@ansonpangSimone was literally training the skill and dropped it due the difficulty rating not being worth it. And that’s when she moved onto the Yurchenko double pike.
@adarshminj2543 remember everyone she hasn't completed the the vault yet to be named after her so if gets named after it would be almost perfect and she probably get gold because everyone else is doing almost the same vaults where as simones is the only different one that no one else can do. So Rebecca in my mind is the only one who can unsent her at the moment. Going to be very interesting exciting but curious who win the gold ✨️ on vault most likely obviously a stuck landing
@@ot12stan61 getting three twists around is far more difficult than amanar with blind landing. In 2012 Amanar was worth 7 tenths over dty so yeah tbh 5.8 will be crazy low for such a difficult vault
Your pronunciation of her name is so nice and accuarate to our language thank you, I always get annoyed when people try to "english-fy" names just because the pronunciation can be a bit tricky. Thank you
I hope she does it. Gymnasts are amazing but we sorely need more variety for womens vault, right now it is just Amanar and Cheng copy paste other than the YDP of Simones. It would a great video topic for you to explain the two different vaults a Gymnast has to perform.
@@chariezwane3981same! I think the only gymnasts who really do them now are European gymnasts, but it's still rare since many opt for front handsprings instead. Alexa does them too and she's great!
@adarshminj2543 It's been so frustrating watching so many American gymnastics only have one vault prepared too. I would tell them to at least work on a 2nd w/a lower D score that's impeccably executed. Unless they have a physical excuse, they should all be doing two vaults.
@@KaiOpaka Tbh 'very difficult' vaults are just not worth it anymore due to their low start values now. Remember the time when amanar vault was a bench mark for winning the all around when it was worth 6.5/6.3 however it's not anymore. A solid dty is fine nowadays. But you are right though. Part of the problem is also the harsh deductions in the new code of points that just limits gymnast from trying new stuff and we can see that the execution standard have gone low over the last decade. I still miss Nastia, Carly, Khorkina, Shawn, Kexin, Mustafina, Komova era.
That would be awesome if she does the TTY. I love Simone Biles but it would spice things up and make the competition so much more thrilling when other athletes can seriously challenge her. Damn it I cannot wait for the Game!
@@1itslaurahere1it's an extremely difficult and technical vault and she only landed it twice in comp before so idk if she'd bring it back. It would be amazing if she did both her vaults in Paris though. I love the biles I and I hope someone else trains it one day. Rebecca could definitely do it
If she hasn't done it in any competition yet, she shouldn't risk it at the Olympics. She shouldn't do it to defend her title or compete against Simone. She and her team should take a cue from Simone herself and do it to challenge and compete not just against others but herself as well.
The first time she did the cheng was also at the Olympics in Japan. She has already said in an interview, which took place a few weeks ago, that she will only do the new elements if she is confident.
@@materiassanfran6055 She debuted her Cheng months before on her instagram, where she was actually landing it; so no one was surprised at Tokyo when she debuted it. The TTY not so much; as we can see from the video released she is clearly under-rotated and most likely fell as they cut the landing.
even if simone falls and her coach was not standing there she would still win, and I believe you are right cause even if Andrade upgrades to TTY she still can fall short, simone is so consistent
@@materiassanfran6055 many people had already done a cheng. it was not considered to be elusive/impossible. no woman has done the TTY successfully and for good reason
Simone was all over the internet practicing the YDP prior to debuting it. It may not have been "leaked," but it didn't stop her. If Rebecca and her coaches are confident in it, then she wouldn't let it stop her either.
@@nicoleoliveira2611 Mas era com ligação né? Tava na cara que não ia dar certo, ela sempre chegava com falta... Eles foram irresponsáveis de não tirar aquela passada.
The video does not show her completing the last half twist, and is so low to the ground I don't see the air time to pull it around either, w/o hurting her knees. thoughts on this?
I noticed this too. The video says that she has had struggles with her knee so the last half twist could be an issue. They don’t say that she did or didn’t do it In training. I think the Brazilian Olympic committee wants to keep the final seconds under wraps and I don’t blame them.
@@bleeka325 Thanks! It would be so nice to see a triple, done with a great block off the table , and with super tight form , to a safe landing. I'm all in for the excitement of the games.
Gymnasts who trains the Amanar at the gym would usually do a triple or 2 3/4 twist in order for their body to get used to so much twisting. She won't be the first gymnast to attempt it at the Olympics though as it was first attempted at the Rio olympics by the north Korean gymnast.
the Amanar debuted in 2000 at the Sydney Olympics and Simona Amanar the Gymnast after which the vault is named finished 6th in Apparatus finals with a 9.54. its hard to repeat Apparatus titles at the Olympics my guess is its going to be Simone Biles Gold Rebecca Andrade Silver and Mai Maurakami of Japan Bronze on Vault
The lowering of all those vault scores was part of a revamp of the cop to make vault scoring more in line with the other events so 5.8-6 for a tty makes sense to me. An amanar is only worth 5.4 you can’t have a tty be a 6.4. If this were 2008 it would be a joke but with the way vaults are graded in the cop now 5.8 isn’t wild
And just to clarify I think they should all be raised back up I think a 5.4 for an Amanar is insultingly low. A 5.4 beam or bars routine is nothing special.
@@adamtravis9380 Some of the most difficult release skills values are probably going to be downgraded at some point, as well as highly valued beam skills. The amount of bar workers working with that kind of difficulty is also very few, and the execution deductions are far more extensive than vault. The best vaulters are getting 4-5 tenths off and the best bar workers are getting an over a point deducted usually. Kaylia neymours and qiu qiyuan (the only ones with 7.2 start values) highest scores this year were 15.4-15.5 which, like biles 15.975 are huge anomalies. Most other gymnasts are around 6, simone biles is a 6.1 for example. With the twisting vaults it’s always been the step ups with twists are very uniform so you can’t have a bigger jump just because it’s new or hasn’t been done before
5.8 is so funny to me when that was a DTY value 10 years ago 😂 and not too long ago an amanar was a 6.5 so this would’ve been a 7.0 at the minimum. It’s crazy how values have changed so much, but for a clean DTY, there’s not much space to take off other than the pretty standard 0.5-0.8 that’s taken off right off the bat for any vault that isn’t total perfection. So it makes sense to even out the event scores when they decide the new average E score for bars beam and floor is like a 7.8 and anything above 8.2 is excellent. It just makes me wonder what things are really separating gymnasts with their scores when each skill gets some arbitrary flexed foot deduction which add up to basically the same as a whole fall.
It’s a little frustrating how unreliable beam scoring is especially. A perfectly hit routine even 6-8 years ago would’ve still almost have a full point of seemingly arbitrary deductions. Now, even the Chinese gymnasts with textbook accuracy still get at least 1.5 off. It’s madness
She has a perfect body biometry to do this. Rebecca is totally able to execute with perfection. She deserves to write her name on code. Brazil suport you always in Paris.
that Amanar at 0:41 is the most effortless that i've seen. Also I really want Rebeca to have a skill named after her, i was hoping it would be the "Li xioaopeng" valt, the progression of the Biles I, it would be iconic given her already iconic Cheng. But the TTY is cool too, I just want her to have a skill to call hers.
If having a move named after her was the goal, she should have competed it other events first for the experience outside the gym. Suni Lee debuted her upgrade at a couple of national events, and didn't have much success with it in competition in spite of practicing it successfully in the gym. Hopefully, she can bring it back for the Olympics, but there's also the matter of her kidneys being healthy.
I too would love for Rebeca to get her name in the COP on ANY apparatus but definitely not at the risk of injury. Having said that, I think she will only perform it if she is 100% sure that she can land it and I want her to.
Her blocking is absolutely state of the art- if anyone can do it, she can. However, if she wishes to protect her surgically repaired knee, I would completely understand! Her health and well-being are always top priority! 🇧🇷
Rebeca is a great gymnast, but do not believe she will attempt the triple twist because she is not quite square to land it. In the videos she is a quarter turn short as she is landing. That is into a pit which is not what she would have to land on. She is a phenomenal vaulter with her long lines and she has an exceptional Amanar. I would hate to see her get injured because of being under rotated.
Apart from just difficulty there's very little margin for error between landing it really well and a landing that potentially results in crippling injury. If you landing facing the vault and you're under-rotated that's really hard on the ankles for a start. Then there's a risk of torsional fracture if you land while still twisting and don't get both feet planted at the same time.
I wonder why she doesn’t go for doubles. Especially since twisting is more risky for her knees. She has the block to easily do a double back or even a half-on double front (has anyone done that before?). Maybe that is a stretch since she doesn’t do front doubles anywhere else, but she gets so much height in her half-ons, if anyone can do it it’s Rebeca. If she has trained them before, I haven’t seen it - correct me if I’m wrong.
Indeed. WAG Committee tended to undervalue twisting elements while overvalue double saltos for almost a decade. In comparison, the MAG Committee is more fair in evaluating element difficulties.
@@hazelnutspred3348 Yes. Women largely favour Yurchnko vaults whereas guys largely favour Tsukahara and to lesser extent forward handspring vaults. But these are both Yurchenkos. WAG vault values are just nonsense. An Amanar is obviously more difficult than a Cheng. The half on is not 0.2 more difficult than the full twist difference. They should be the other way round like are in MAG. Yurchenko double twist is 4.8, Yurchenko half on 1.5 off (Cheng) is 5.0 and Yurchenko 2.5 (Amanar) is 5.2
@@benbailey159bb the block for a cheng is much harder than generating the power to do an amanar. So many gymnasts can throw an extra half onto a dty but most would struggle blocking a half on entry. It would be more popular to do that type of entry if it were easier, but it’s not
There’s a lot of talk about her doing it, but there isn’t one clip of her actually performing the skill. I’m not saying she can’t do it, but I think they are purposefully holding back any video of it to see if she tries it in vault finals
depends on the clip bc if this is recent then there is no way she is ready to compete it, but if this is from a while ago then it is definitely possible
This clip is from March/April and she didn't even want it to be released, it was leaked. She and her team know what they're doing, she has been very careful since her last ACL injury. If she feels like it, she will compete it. The last Olympics were also the first ever time she performed the Cheng and she won gold. She knows better than us. She's a phenomenon!
@KelsKingdom-h1q I mean... What's a phenomenon in YOUR book? Rebeca's the 2020 olympic, 2021 and 2023 world champion on the vault and 2022 world all-around champion. She is one of the only three gymnasts to have medalled on every event in the history of World Championships in this century. She executed the BEST cheng vault EVER. Let's not forget that AG values both difficulty and execution, and often even when her peers do best in the first Andrade constantly beats them in the last. All this with a waaaay bigger background of injuries. So yep, she's an icon, a warrior and a phenomenon. Both Andrade and Biles are IN THEIR OWN WAY.
@KelsKingdom-h1qshe's torn her acl 3 times and won an olympic gold and silver as well as 3 world championships after the third tear. her trajectory is remarkable and significantly differs from other gymnasts seeing as her biggest wins came years after three reconstructive surgeries and she keeps on improving. shes certainly worthy of being called a phenomenon
@KelsKingdom-h1qamigo, mas essa é a questão! Se com tantos problemas físicos ela atingiu níveis tão altos, imagine se não houvesse ocorrido tantas lesões. O que diferencia a Andrade da Biles é isso:enquanto a biles estava no alto nível, a Andrade estava se recuperando. Ou seja, não havendo condições de fazer algo extraordinário. Então sim, a Andrade é uma fenômeno. Algo único, que com tantos problemas - inclusive falo em relação do Brasil não ser um país culturalmente da ginástica(diferente do país da Biles) - é a única que pode superar, em algumas provas, a maior ginasta de todos os tempos - Simone Biles. Ambas são fenômenos, mas Andrade tem um admirável histórico, e não falo em relação à medalhas, e sim de lesões e outros problemas.
Simone and Andrade are incredible athletes. In fact, Brazil has incredible athletes who could perform better if the government invested in sports, but corruption and embezzlement of public funds is exorbitant. The difficulties these athletes have in obtaining good equipment, coaches, and sponsorship are enormous. The buildings that were built for Rio 2016 are completely destroyed. The government promised to keep them to help the athletes train, but in a short time everything fell apart. It is regrettable, billions were spent and thrown away.
Rebeca só o fará se sentir que está preparada, se ela se sentir confiante e confortável, ela sabe do se potencial, ela já se provou e escrever se nome na ginástica do Brasil, ela não tem a prentençao de se melhor que a Biles, acho que para ela tudo bem a Biles ficar com o ouro, para nós Brasileiros está tudo bem O USA ficar com todos os ouros de Paris( e provavelmente serão campeao por conta da Biles, pois se não fosse ela nós teríamos uma competição equilibrada entre USA e China). Só queremos que a Rebeca, a Flávia, Jade e Júlia passem bem e Saudável, só quero uma final segura para elas. Medalha sera apenas 3, todas treinaram, todas lutaram para está lá, todas merecem serem respeitadas, ainda mais em uma competição que subjetiva e depende da interpretação do outro, que pode ou não ser imparcial.
Andrade is taller and that makes jumping more difficult. It's nice to see the mutual respect between her and Biles. Pure art!
Brazil is supporting you, Rebeca.
As an American, I’m also supporting her!!🇺🇸❤️🇧🇷
México too
Argentina too
Italy too!
Canada too!
Her twisting form is so good, that I believe she could definitely do it. Ultimately it’s up to her if she feels like it will be ready and not too dangerous. This vault is huge and should definitely be worth more than 5.8. I hate that FIG undervalued twisting skills.
My worry is the pressure of doing it for the first time on the biggest stage in the world. She’s a great gymnast and I would feel more optimistic if she had already done it at another lesser competition. It would be cool if she did.
@@tanithschneider3051 I believe this is the type of skill she would do once and never again! So maybe I'll only do it in Paris
Hate to say it but quite a few gymnasts have trained this vault. Maroney, Biles, Un-jong, Skinner...
Aside from Un-jong (I believe in Rio?) who failed to make all 3 rotations noone has ever tried to compete it.
Ofcourse I'd love Rebecca to nail this but I hate these like "unofficial named skill" videos that act like cause it's thrown about in training into a pit it's suddenly realistic. Clickbait af
Rebeca só o fará se sentir que está preparada, se ela se sentir confiante e confortável, ela sabe do se potencial, ela já se provou e escrever se nome na ginástica do Brasil, ela não tem a prentençao de se melhor que a Biles, acho que para ela tudo bem a Biles ficar com o ouro, para nós Brasileiros está tudo bem O USA ficar com todos os ouros de Paris( e provavelmente serão campeao por conta da Biles, pois se não fosse ela nós teríamos uma competição equilibrada entre USA e China). Só queremos que a Rebeca, a Flávia, Jade e Júlia passem bem e Saudável, só quero uma final segura para elas. Medalha sera apenas 3, todas treinaram, todas lutaram para está lá, todas merecem serem respeitadas, ainda mais em uma competição que subjetiva e depende da interpretação do outro, que pode ou não ser imparcial.
FIG undervalues vaults, not just twisting skills.
Rebeca Andrade is simply a PHENOMENAL vaulter! She flies high from the amazing block she gets, and her form is always on point. Like all other vaults however, it likely won't be given the difficulty score it deserves, which is unfortunate, but she'll still have an incredibly difficult skill named after her if completed at the Games, and nothing can take that from her once accomplished!
She 100% has the blocking ability to have enough time to do the 3 rotations, but it’s still extremely difficult.
I can't believe how many skills are being pushed! Simone Biles has truly propelled the sport forward, and Andrade is clearly making her mark even deeper. I can't WAIT for Paris 2024!!
This vault is very difficult 😑 trying to get 3 twists around with no margin for error or simply being just short because there is not alot of time to get it around all the way. It appears in training that she is very close but in reality if you land short a significant injury may result as you don't know where you are while twisting. I truly hope she does attempt and make it. Make it her own. As a former gymnast a triple on floor was extremely difficult to get all the way around but on vault 😲 oh my goodness. Good luck Rebecca I'm very anxious to see how it turns out
Andrade is Brazilian, her propeller is Daiane dos Santos
@@strngmgc No it's simone as she is the best in the world and the one everyone is catching up to
@@motives88if you're not familiar with gymnastics just say it. The world is not United States.
Yall-- no shade but are yall familiar with gymnastics at all?? Rebecca's propeller is Daiane dos Santos.
I don't much about gymnastics, other than a casually watching for years, but to me this young lady's performances are stunning. She seems to have the perfect combination of skill, talent and grace. She is a lovely addition to her sport.
The Rebeca pronunciation was great btw!
É pq Rebecca é um nome comum nós EUA, principalmente nas comunidades judaicas
@@danielzugueibcoutinho5554 mas não com a nossa pronúncia
Just the Andrade was a bit off but the effort is appreciated anyway :)
I love how you learned to say her name with a brazilian accent ⭐
Estou positivamente surpreso por respeitarem a pronúncia do nome dela, obrigado!
Ela não fez, mas brilhou igual ❤🎉💚
Unfortunately she did not perform this skill in Paris! But congrats for bringing home Silver Medal 🎉🎉🎉
Do you think she will do it at another competition ahead of Olympics 2028 to get it in the codebook
And gold
And gold
And gold!
Gold 🥇
Comming here because yt recommended this after she won gold. I'm so proud of being brasilian ❤ she's beyond impressive
Every video shown of her performing this vault, she's still twisting when she hits the ground. That's SO DANGEROUS.
Well, I find that the recent video from CBG showing her training it (likely over a very soft mat or possibly over a foam pit) is actually very promising. She seems to be finishing the 2.5 twists around 30-40 cm (~1 ft) above where the ground likely is, which means she has enough time to finish the last 0.5 twist and land comfortably. The Korean gymnast was definitely not prepared/powerful enough for it and kept landing with 1/4 twist missing, which is absolutely terrible and I'm amazed she didn't obliterate her ACL like that. But I believe Rebeca is very attuned to her body and capabilities nowadays and she won't go for it if she doesn't feel springy enough to get the necessary height to safely complete all 3 twists during vault finals. Or if she messes up her block or whatever. She's aware that another Olympic vault gold medal and a named skill is not worth ending her career for. She could get it named next year if she's not fully confident in it for Paris. But from the most recent videos it seems like she is currently able to land it safely, given a very good run and block of course. She's a fast twister, as seen by her amazing Chengs.
@sleepy5017 -- I am worried about Rebecca as well. She is an amazing gymnast and phenomenal vaulter, but that kind of twisting is really hard on the knees and ankles. I just worry about Rebecca's health. She has already had so many injuries that I would absolutely hate it if she has another career-threatening injury. I want to see her around for many years to come!
@sleepy5017 they keep saying unofficial Andrade skill triple twisting yurechenko but someone could easily do it before her then it won't be hers
GOLD MEDAL. Congrats to Rebeca
I can barely walk around my kitchen without crashing into the fridge - that's some very impressive air sense!
I love Rebe so much and I want to hear her name live on, but more importantly I want her knee fully recovered! I hope that Francisco and the national team aren't putting any pressure on her to do it now if Jakarta is a safer idea... 😢
She pulls this off at Paris and she'll become a legend. And one of the best vaulters of all time if she wasn't already. 🔥
She already is one of the best imo. Currently has the world's best cheng after all
In my opinion, Rebecca is one of the top 3 vaulters in women’s history. Simone (because of difficulty, ingenuity, and tenure), McKayla M (the highest and most iconic Amanar we’ve ever seen) and Rebecca for having the best Cheng in the world.
I’m rooting for the LEE, CAREY, and ANDRADE!!! I’m hoping for more new eponymous skills during the Paris 2024 Olympics…🙏🏼
And all three of them are so wonderful and deserving. ❤
Hong honestly looked pretty good in that training clip.. but also at the vault finals even if she didn't fall, the skill wouldnt have been named after her bc she was only credited for an Amanar, so she could've landed on her feet anyways but she didn't complete the 3 rotations before touching the mat
In that video her coach was on the vault pushing her up.
@@sleepy5017 i saw that yeah, but even with a spot from the coach her landing was probably the best and most rotated out of everyone in this list
@@TwistedApple ..because she had extra height and stabilization from the coach. The issue is getting all that height to be able to complete the twists safely. And we know Hong wasn't he cleanest by far, her Cheng always stressed me out cause she was clearly whipping it around and hoping for the best. She wasn't tight enough in her twisting to land the Amanar comfortably with extra time, so I think it was pretty crazy of her to go for the TTY, but it's North Korea, so the wellbeing of the athletes is usually not their main priority.
É OOOOOOUROOOOOO POOOOOORRAAA!!!! 🎉🎉🎉
100% DESERVED THE GOLD MEDAL!!! Too bad the USA has stolen the bronze medal from the romanian athlete....
I'm so excited and I hope she can perform it healthily. I feel bad that the video was released earlier than she wanted, but it will give so much excitement to see if she'll do it in the games.
the only issue with her TTY attempts is she doesn't rotate fast enough to complete all 3 rotations. her chest is open for too long and it slows her down significantly.
See the video !! They showed omg
BTW Rebeca may just be training the TTY to improve her Amanar.
Thing is her Amanar is good anyway
@@sollte1239, it depends. She tends to finish that last half twist on her amanar pretty late.
That sounds a bit strange, considering she always gets her Amanar very comfortably around, but struggles to land it precisely, in terms of ideal finishing position. Over the last cycle we've seen her land it almost always with a big bounce forward, because she's probably over-powering it out of safety. She might also just prefer backwards landings and want to train the triple because she has the height and twisting speed for it. It's possible the Amanar feels weird to her because she's been doing the DTY for so long, alongside the Cheng, so now adding only a half twist to land forward may be hard to calibrate. But idk, I'm not in her head and I'm not even a gymnast, I just love watching this sport. From the most recent video it seems like she can land the TTY safely, based on the height she's at before the last 0.5 twist, and I'm sure she won't take unnecessary risks to her knees just for another gold medal, given how well her career is going. I hope Simone goes after her, so that she's not swayed by anything that happens and only makes the decision based on her gut in the moment.
@@calihapamamavideo of the triple out
@@robertoomena3801 I saw. It’s close. Still slightly underrotated, but very close.
I really really hope she nails it at the Olympics, Rebeca is such a hard worker and amazing gymnast
I doubt that she’ll debut it at the Paris Olympics. It’s too risky, she could end up finishing off the podium. At least she could still get the silver medal if she sticks to the Cheng and the Amanar.
She didn't even mean for this video to be released, the Brazilian Olympic Committee leaked it without her knowledge, so either she meant to keep it a secret for Paris or they're hyping it up when it's not even ready.
and thats exactly what happened! she got silver!
@@mariacado1104 She could be holding it back until the vault finals
This comment aged right
I really hope she does, but only if she's 90% confident in it. Her and Simone going head to head with their signature vaults would be so insane to see
I think we could see this in Paris games. However, I think where here vault rotation lays could have an influence as well. If it’s early? She may feel fresh and able to get the power needed to safely land. She’s a smart competitor. She won’t risk metal contention just for the sake of a name sake. These games have some heavy hitter gymnasts on their A-game. Going to be one exciting Olympic Games!
Meanwhile, the film footage studiously avoids any type of landing in the frame. But I wish her well on the endeavor.
I noticed that. I guess the Brazilian Olympic committee wants to keep the final result to themselves and I don’t blame them
Based on her hair color in the clip (she dyes it often) this was filmed months ago so it's likely she's improved since then.
@@kitenne4944 agreed. This is just the footage they wanted the public to see. Just to rile everyone up. I don’t think anybody thinking strategically would show their hand
@@bleeka325strategically how? Like if they revealed a real triple twisting yurchenko all the girlies are just gonna suddenly bust theirs out too to compete? Idk man this isn't a particularly strategic sport but i guess if it's a truly legit vault we'll all have to speculate the reasoning for sharing this weirdly specific and underperfomed video clip...
@@_padfoot not necessarily avoid enticing others to switch up their routines but to play with their heads
5.8 for TTY will be insanely Low, It should be 6.0 at least if she successfully lands it.
Nah its half a more twist that an amanar and it's not a blind landing
@@ot12stan61 Then why hasn't anyone done it since 2000?
@@ansonpangSimone was literally training the skill and dropped it due the difficulty rating not being worth it. And that’s when she moved onto the Yurchenko double pike.
@adarshminj2543 remember everyone she hasn't completed the the vault yet to be named after her so if gets named after it would be almost perfect and she probably get gold because everyone else is doing almost the same vaults where as simones is the only different one that no one else can do. So Rebecca in my mind is the only one who can unsent her at the moment. Going to be very interesting exciting but curious who win the gold ✨️ on vault most likely obviously a stuck landing
@@ot12stan61 getting three twists around is far more difficult than amanar with blind landing. In 2012 Amanar was worth 7 tenths over dty so yeah tbh 5.8 will be crazy low for such a difficult vault
Your pronunciation of her name is so nice and accuarate to our language thank you, I always get annoyed when people try to "english-fy" names just because the pronunciation can be a bit tricky. Thank you
Very impressive. I pray no injuries happen.
I hope she does it. Gymnasts are amazing but we sorely need more variety for womens vault, right now it is just Amanar and Cheng copy paste other than the YDP of Simones. It would a great video topic for you to explain the two different vaults a Gymnast has to perform.
I miss seeing Tsuk type vaults
@@chariezwane3981same! I think the only gymnasts who really do them now are European gymnasts, but it's still rare since many opt for front handsprings instead. Alexa does them too and she's great!
@@chariezwane3981 Amanar has become rare nowadays compared to a decade ago when almost all top girls could do amanar. Now it's mostly DTY
@adarshminj2543 It's been so frustrating watching so many American gymnastics only have one vault prepared too. I would tell them to at least work on a 2nd w/a lower D score that's impeccably executed. Unless they have a physical excuse, they should all be doing two vaults.
@@KaiOpaka Tbh 'very difficult' vaults are just not worth it anymore due to their low start values now. Remember the time when amanar vault was a bench mark for winning the all around when it was worth 6.5/6.3 however it's not anymore. A solid dty is fine nowadays.
But you are right though. Part of the problem is also the harsh deductions in the new code of points that just limits gymnast from trying new stuff and we can see that the execution standard have gone low over the last decade. I still miss Nastia, Carly, Khorkina, Shawn, Kexin, Mustafina, Komova era.
And she just won the gold medal🎉
That would be awesome if she does the TTY. I love Simone Biles but it would spice things up and make the competition so much more thrilling when other athletes can seriously challenge her. Damn it I cannot wait for the Game!
I agree! It’s something the sport def needs.
I wish Simone would bring back the Biles I!
@@1itslaurahere1it's an extremely difficult and technical vault and she only landed it twice in comp before so idk if she'd bring it back. It would be amazing if she did both her vaults in Paris though. I love the biles I and I hope someone else trains it one day. Rebecca could definitely do it
@@murasakino101 agreed
@@murasakino101 if Rebeca could do the biles I, she would
Rebeca is incredible, I hope she pulls this off. So excited to see her in Paris
If she hasn't done it in any competition yet, she shouldn't risk it at the Olympics.
She shouldn't do it to defend her title or compete against Simone.
She and her team should take a cue from Simone herself and do it to challenge and compete not just against others but herself as well.
The first time she did the cheng was also at the Olympics in Japan. She has already said in an interview, which took place a few weeks ago, that she will only do the new elements if she is confident.
@@materiassanfran6055 She debuted her Cheng months before on her instagram, where she was actually landing it; so no one was surprised at Tokyo when she debuted it. The TTY not so much; as we can see from the video released she is clearly under-rotated and most likely fell as they cut the landing.
even if simone falls and her coach was not standing there she would still win, and I believe you are right cause even if Andrade upgrades to TTY she still can fall short, simone is so consistent
@@materiassanfran6055 many people had already done a cheng. it was not considered to be elusive/impossible. no woman has done the TTY successfully and for good reason
GOLD!!
Uma palhaçada a COB ter vazado o vídeo da Rebeca, agora talvez ela nem tente executar esse salto nas olimpíadas
Simone was all over the internet practicing the YDP prior to debuting it. It may not have been "leaked," but it didn't stop her. If Rebecca and her coaches are confident in it, then she wouldn't let it stop her either.
Nem vale a pena se valer apenas 5.8 , eh muito arriscado
@@yurioliveira1436 e vai ser esse valor de 5,8 mesmo
@@yurioliveira1436 a última vez que ela se machucou foi fazendo tripla pirueta no solo. Teve que fazer a terceira cirurgia na época
@@nicoleoliveira2611 Mas era com ligação né? Tava na cara que não ia dar certo, ela sempre chegava com falta... Eles foram irresponsáveis de não tirar aquela passada.
The video does not show her completing the last half twist, and is so low to the ground I don't see the air time to pull it around either, w/o hurting her knees. thoughts on this?
The video literally addresses the last half twist not being completed.
I noticed this too. The video says that she has had struggles with her knee so the last half twist could be an issue. They don’t say that she did or didn’t do it In training. I think the Brazilian Olympic committee wants to keep the final seconds under wraps and I don’t blame them.
This might not even be the final video they have. This is just the one they released
@@bleeka325 Thanks! It would be so nice to see a triple, done with a great block off the table , and with super tight form , to a safe landing.
I'm all in for the excitement of the games.
Gymnasts who trains the Amanar at the gym would usually do a triple or 2 3/4 twist in order for their body to get used to so much twisting. She won't be the first gymnast to attempt it at the Olympics though as it was first attempted at the Rio olympics by the north Korean gymnast.
Rebecca is AMAZING!!! She's the only person who can somewhat challenge Biles for the Olympic AA title.I said "somewhat"
@KelsKingdom-h1qthats very true. I believe Kaitlyn ohashi? Was the last person to actually give Simone competition and win an AA against her
She’s always gonna be a close second, but Simone rarely misses. So unless it’s something tragic like in Tokyo, our queen is gonna stay on top
the Amanar debuted in 2000 at the Sydney Olympics and Simona Amanar the Gymnast after which the vault is named finished 6th in Apparatus finals with a 9.54. its hard to repeat Apparatus titles at the Olympics my guess is its going to be Simone Biles Gold Rebecca Andrade Silver and Mai Maurakami of Japan Bronze on Vault
murakami is retired. i liked her
you almost got it right. sunisa lee got bronze
@@mariacado1104 That was all around. This is abt vault finals
5.8 is a joke for a TTY. The COP on vault needs to be completely revamped
The lowering of all those vault scores was part of a revamp of the cop to make vault scoring more in line with the other events so 5.8-6 for a tty makes sense to me. An amanar is only worth 5.4 you can’t have a tty be a 6.4. If this were 2008 it would be a joke but with the way vaults are graded in the cop now 5.8 isn’t wild
@@samanthabutterfield5172 I disagree because we have top bar workers with D scores at 7.2. Top vaulters should be on a similar playing field
And just to clarify I think they should all be raised back up I think a 5.4 for an Amanar is insultingly low. A 5.4 beam or bars routine is nothing special.
@@adamtravis9380 Some of the most difficult release skills values are probably going to be downgraded at some point, as well as highly valued beam skills. The amount of bar workers working with that kind of difficulty is also very few, and the execution deductions are far more extensive than vault. The best vaulters are getting 4-5 tenths off and the best bar workers are getting an over a point deducted usually. Kaylia neymours and qiu qiyuan (the only ones with 7.2 start values) highest scores this year were 15.4-15.5 which, like biles 15.975 are huge anomalies. Most other gymnasts are around 6, simone biles is a 6.1 for example. With the twisting vaults it’s always been the step ups with twists are very uniform so you can’t have a bigger jump just because it’s new or hasn’t been done before
Of course she wil, Rebeca Andrade is a phenomenal vaulter.
Cool for Rebeca Andrade is doing her on the Vault in triple twisting.
I stoped feeling my legs just by seeing her muscles contracting... hahaha
5.8 is so funny to me when that was a DTY value 10 years ago 😂 and not too long ago an amanar was a 6.5 so this would’ve been a 7.0 at the minimum. It’s crazy how values have changed so much, but for a clean DTY, there’s not much space to take off other than the pretty standard 0.5-0.8 that’s taken off right off the bat for any vault that isn’t total perfection. So it makes sense to even out the event scores when they decide the new average E score for bars beam and floor is like a 7.8 and anything above 8.2 is excellent. It just makes me wonder what things are really separating gymnasts with their scores when each skill gets some arbitrary flexed foot deduction which add up to basically the same as a whole fall.
It’s a little frustrating how unreliable beam scoring is especially. A perfectly hit routine even 6-8 years ago would’ve still almost have a full point of seemingly arbitrary deductions. Now, even the Chinese gymnasts with textbook accuracy still get at least 1.5 off. It’s madness
She is incredible, Biles and Rebeca, the biggest personalities in world gymnastics!
She just posted the video.. and it was beautiful 😊
She's an amazing athlete 👏🔥❣
She has a perfect body biometry to do this. Rebecca is totally able to execute with perfection. She deserves to write her name on code. Brazil suport you always in Paris.
Actually, olympics rated it by 6.0 difficulty
And you just got 6.0 points difficulty for saying her name right. =))
I remember seeing Simone do this in training in 2015 she never competed it though. It would be cool if Rebecca did.
She's probably just training this skill to improve her Amanar.
that Amanar at 0:41 is the most effortless that i've seen. Also I really want Rebeca to have a skill named after her, i was hoping it would be the "Li xioaopeng" valt, the progression of the Biles I, it would be iconic given her already iconic Cheng. But the TTY is cool too, I just want her to have a skill to call hers.
If having a move named after her was the goal, she should have competed it other events first for the experience outside the gym. Suni Lee debuted her upgrade at a couple of national events, and didn't have much success with it in competition in spite of practicing it successfully in the gym. Hopefully, she can bring it back for the Olympics, but there's also the matter of her kidneys being healthy.
I too would love for Rebeca to get her name in the COP on ANY apparatus but definitely not at the risk of injury. Having said that, I think she will only perform it if she is 100% sure that she can land it and I want her to.
@@sebastianbiscoito3132 Then you haven’t seen many Amanar, much less gymnastics.
This is our Rebeca for you, world ❤
Go for it, Rebequitaaaaaa!!!!
That's awesome- she should totally go for it whatever the result. Go for glory and just put it all out there (not for team finals but for even finals)
Gosh, I certainly hope so! 🤩
I hope she does, and i hope she nails it. I really like her gymnastics.
Great video, congrats
Her blocking is absolutely state of the art- if anyone can do it, she can.
However, if she wishes to protect her surgically repaired knee, I would completely understand! Her health and well-being are always top priority! 🇧🇷
I hope she gets a skill named after her, I love Rebeca!
Special thanks to the Brazilian Olympics organization who leaked the video LOL
The vault finals were today, she got the silver medal. She didn't do this jump, but even if she did, it wouldn't make her win gold, sadly.
She is stronger and powerfull now, its her time! If theres someone who can do it, its her❤
The video is ridiculous. You can’t see the landing area. She might be landing in the pit for all we know.
right! my thoughts too... I am praying for her knees
se vc usar um pouco do seu cérebro vc vai perceber que não é na cova
she's so cool
Rebeca is a great gymnast, but do not believe she will attempt the triple twist because she is not quite square to land it. In the videos she is a quarter turn short as she is landing. That is into a pit which is not what she would have to land on. She is a phenomenal vaulter with her long lines and she has an exceptional Amanar. I would hate to see her get injured because of being under rotated.
Maior vacilo do COB divulgar esse salto…
She does it so good 😮😮
The best chenko is from Rebecca in this olympic games
Did not need it to dunk on Biles head top to get the gold
Um salto desses é quase impossível na ginástica feminina, no mínimo 6.2 !!!! Ai vem simone com duplo carpado e ganha 6.2 ai ai
It’s ling overdue. I don’t understand why TTY hasn’t been done already.
@@geraldsonofgod It’s not worth it. Simone went from training the TTY to the YDP because it wasn’t worth it.
Not many can pull off amanar, so TTY is for the gods of the sport
@@adarshminj2543 Lol. No.
Apart from just difficulty there's very little margin for error between landing it really well and a landing that potentially results in crippling injury. If you landing facing the vault and you're under-rotated that's really hard on the ankles for a start. Then there's a risk of torsional fracture if you land while still twisting and don't get both feet planted at the same time.
She is the best! I hope she makes it
I wonder why she doesn’t go for doubles. Especially since twisting is more risky for her knees. She has the block to easily do a double back or even a half-on double front (has anyone done that before?). Maybe that is a stretch since she doesn’t do front doubles anywhere else, but she gets so much height in her half-ons, if anyone can do it it’s Rebeca. If she has trained them before, I haven’t seen it - correct me if I’m wrong.
Paris vault finals is going to be hot
5.8 is ridiculous. In MAG a Yurchenko double pike is 5.6 and so is the Yurchenko triple twist. Yet in WAG they're 0.6 apart???
Indeed. WAG Committee tended to undervalue twisting elements while overvalue double saltos for almost a decade. In comparison, the MAG Committee is more fair in evaluating element difficulties.
Mag and wag have different skill sets though. Certain vaults are more/less difficult for women than they are for men
@@hazelnutspred3348 Yes. Women largely favour Yurchnko vaults whereas guys largely favour Tsukahara and to lesser extent forward handspring vaults. But these are both Yurchenkos. WAG vault values are just nonsense. An Amanar is obviously more difficult than a Cheng. The half on is not 0.2 more difficult than the full twist difference. They should be the other way round like are in MAG. Yurchenko double twist is 4.8, Yurchenko half on 1.5 off (Cheng) is 5.0 and Yurchenko 2.5 (Amanar) is 5.2
@@benbailey159bb the block for a cheng is much harder than generating the power to do an amanar. So many gymnasts can throw an extra half onto a dty but most would struggle blocking a half on entry. It would be more popular to do that type of entry if it were easier, but it’s not
It is ridiculous that this vault is worth higher!
5.8 is definitely not the correct D value for a triple twist.
Sadly this is what FIG wants.
There’s a lot of talk about her doing it, but there isn’t one clip of her actually performing the skill. I’m not saying she can’t do it, but I think they are purposefully holding back any video of it to see if she tries it in vault finals
If anyone can, she can!!!
depends on the clip bc if this is recent then there is no way she is ready to compete it, but if this is from a while ago then it is definitely possible
Rooting for Rebecca!!
good luck girlie
This clip is from March/April and she didn't even want it to be released, it was leaked. She and her team know what they're doing, she has been very careful since her last ACL injury. If she feels like it, she will compete it. The last Olympics were also the first ever time she performed the Cheng and she won gold. She knows better than us. She's a phenomenon!
This!
@KelsKingdom-h1q I mean... What's a phenomenon in YOUR book? Rebeca's the 2020 olympic, 2021 and 2023 world champion on the vault and 2022 world all-around champion. She is one of the only three gymnasts to have medalled on every event in the history of World Championships in this century. She executed the BEST cheng vault EVER. Let's not forget that AG values both difficulty and execution, and often even when her peers do best in the first Andrade constantly beats them in the last. All this with a waaaay bigger background of injuries. So yep, she's an icon, a warrior and a phenomenon. Both Andrade and Biles are IN THEIR OWN WAY.
@KelsKingdom-h1qshe's torn her acl 3 times and won an olympic gold and silver as well as 3 world championships after the third tear. her trajectory is remarkable and significantly differs from other gymnasts seeing as her biggest wins came years after three reconstructive surgeries and she keeps on improving. shes certainly worthy of being called a phenomenon
@KelsKingdom-h1qamigo, mas essa é a questão! Se com tantos problemas físicos ela atingiu níveis tão altos, imagine se não houvesse ocorrido tantas lesões. O que diferencia a Andrade da Biles é isso:enquanto a biles estava no alto nível, a Andrade estava se recuperando. Ou seja, não havendo condições de fazer algo extraordinário. Então sim, a Andrade é uma fenômeno. Algo único, que com tantos problemas - inclusive falo em relação do Brasil não ser um país culturalmente da ginástica(diferente do país da Biles) - é a única que pode superar, em algumas provas, a maior ginasta de todos os tempos - Simone Biles. Ambas são fenômenos, mas Andrade tem um admirável histórico, e não falo em relação à medalhas, e sim de lesões e outros problemas.
@@plmarins Also her Bars and Beam were underscored in the Olympic games and handed gold medal to simple layout dismounting beam queen Sunisa.
Rebeca vai dar tudo certo ❤❤❤❤
She is sooo beautiful to me I only watch gymnastics because of her
Kenzo Shirai is taking notes
the matress used for landing doesn't have like a technoly to avoid injuries in the knees? Just askinh... I know nothing about gymnastics
I can’t believe she doesn’t have an eponymous skill yet though!!!!
Kind of iconic though... the gymnast with no knees is the one to get the TTY in the COP, she's honestly a GOAT
not how that works...
👏👏👏👏💪💪💪👗👗 I can't wait to see all of these wonderful athletes. 🎉🎉🎉
Simone and Andrade are incredible athletes. In fact, Brazil has incredible athletes who could perform better if the government invested in sports, but corruption and embezzlement of public funds is exorbitant. The difficulties these athletes have in obtaining good equipment, coaches, and sponsorship are enormous. The buildings that were built for Rio 2016 are completely destroyed. The government promised to keep them to help the athletes train, but in a short time everything fell apart. It is regrettable, billions were spent and thrown away.
I dont see her doing this for Paris due to risk of injury this close. Maybe for next year???
I don't care what she does as long as she stays *healthy* and can walk on and off the podium! Let's go Rebeca
Rebeca só o fará se sentir que está preparada, se ela se sentir confiante e confortável, ela sabe do se potencial, ela já se provou e escrever se nome na ginástica do Brasil, ela não tem a prentençao de se melhor que a Biles, acho que para ela tudo bem a Biles ficar com o ouro, para nós Brasileiros está tudo bem O USA ficar com todos os ouros de Paris( e provavelmente serão campeao por conta da Biles, pois se não fosse ela nós teríamos uma competição equilibrada entre USA e China). Só queremos que a Rebeca, a Flávia, Jade e Júlia passem bem e Saudável, só quero uma final segura para elas. Medalha sera apenas 3, todas treinaram, todas lutaram para está lá, todas merecem serem respeitadas, ainda mais em uma competição que subjetiva e depende da interpretação do outro, que pode ou não ser imparcial.