ように vs のに SO THAT.../IN ORDER TO... (vs ために PART 2)

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  • @jeff-8511
    @jeff-8511 4 года назад +104

    日本語が上手になるようにみさ先生の動画を見ています。

    • @Mika-kana
      @Mika-kana 4 года назад +4

      Jeff なら should be なれる 🙂
      なる ➡️ なれる

    • @jeff-8511
      @jeff-8511 4 года назад +12

      Tapioca Milk tea 修正ありがとうございます。
      But Misa wrote in her very first example sentence なる, that’s why I used it too

    • @Mika-kana
      @Mika-kana 4 года назад +4

      Jeff I’m glad to help 🙂
      I think なるように and なれるように can be used in that sentence, but I’m not sure what is the difference between those two 🤔

    • @jeff-8511
      @jeff-8511 4 года назад +15

      Tapioca Milk tea well, なれる adds the emphasis of “to be able” to improve my Japanese, I guess.
      I would guess, that both can be used. But they have a different nuance.

    • @deutschmitjeff5299
      @deutschmitjeff5299 4 года назад +7

      そうですね。

  • @saemysaemy6287
    @saemysaemy6287 4 года назад +37

    It's incredible how you can explain difficult grammar things in a simple, funny and cute way. Thank you so much, Misa sensei ❤️

  • @coffee_button
    @coffee_button 4 года назад +9

    Thank you so much for your format, clear speaking and repetition. As a mostly deaf person, this has been a great help with learning japanese slowly and learning lipreading for forming the words. (am fluent in ASL and english)

  • @sabelleg.6176
    @sabelleg.6176 4 месяца назад

    I'm a follower since N5. Now I'm doing N4. The way you teach is very concise and repetitive which makes me remember it right away. Thank you so much!

  • @willow277
    @willow277 3 месяца назад

    みさ先生の授業はとってもためになるよ!

  • @kvcsnikol
    @kvcsnikol Год назад +2

    Hi! I am using Quartet textbook and your videos help me to understand grammars so much better. Thank you very much for your effort, your explanations are very useful.

  • @philipbrowning3544
    @philipbrowning3544 4 года назад +10

    Part 2 YAY! Been looking forward to this since the first installment :D

  • @hye-yunbennett2952
    @hye-yunbennett2952 2 года назад

    みさ先生は最も影響の素晴らしい先生です❣️

  • @DeHaos
    @DeHaos 4 года назад

    何とか
    YTが強制的にアカウントからログアウトしました上に、ミサさんのお知らせを見逃せたのに。「為に vs のに vs ように」って文法の動画パート2には待望することが凄く興奮した。最心得を積み上げり始めて、かかってこいうよ。
    もし日本語が上達になるつもりなら先生の授業絶対に見逃せないというものだ。かなりの時間が経過してからでもN3動画を作成してアップロードしてくれたなど、先生に感謝しています上に文法を思い出すことは重要であるよ。
    先生が導くしてくれたので、日常会話で適切で自然の日本語が使えるようになりました。
    更に何から何まで教えていただき大変なお世話になりました。お疲れ

  • @Allanchan-nel
    @Allanchan-nel 4 года назад

    あなたのレッスンをつくて、ありがとございます。I'm living in Osaka and the city volunteer teachers and language exchange partners I have can't explain things so simply and clearly. I've already started using つもり and ために properly because of your other videos.

  • @tomas6179
    @tomas6179 4 года назад +20

    Great lesson Misa! I actually appreciate shorter lessons that are more focused because it’s easier to go back to the same lesson several times. So about 20 minutes lessons are great in my opinion!

    • @lf-domino7876
      @lf-domino7876 4 года назад

      I thought you were meaning the opposite thing... XD

  • @NellyNelly11
    @NellyNelly11 2 года назад

    Thank you very much for providing useful examples! It made clear the difference of these grammar structures. 本当にありがとうございました。

  • @Ikattcat
    @Ikattcat 10 месяцев назад

    みさ先生ありがとうございます!

  • @billambers7756
    @billambers7756 3 года назад

    みさ先生の授業は日本語がよく話せるのに便利です

  • @saidcakmaker3107
    @saidcakmaker3107 4 года назад +1

    This episode really helped me so much. I always thought that, for example, 分かるように had a meaning like 'testing if s/he understood'.

  • @AlainGre
    @AlainGre 4 месяца назад

    Misa sensei, the best japanese teacher !

  • @vanessameow1902
    @vanessameow1902 4 года назад +7

    一番なんだ! 嬉しい~😆

  • @gracelynfelicano5517
    @gracelynfelicano5517 2 года назад

    You're so awesome 先生!!
    みさ先生の授業はすごくためになります🌷

  • @sergiom3988
    @sergiom3988 Год назад

    I was trying to understand what noni means after seeing it in a song, you are the best thank you.

  • @vanessalinguadicta539
    @vanessalinguadicta539 4 года назад

    このビデオてありがとうございます, ミーサ先生! 今日は大変勉強になりました 😊

  • @westsidedave
    @westsidedave 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for all the awesome examples. Can you go more into ようにする、ように頼む、ように(A resembles B) ? Whenever I hear ように, I'm trying to think about what context is being used. How can I distinguish the context easily? Thank you!

  • @clay7286
    @clay7286 4 года назад +3

    Thanks Misa. Such a great lesson, as always. ☺️

  • @MD-sk1iw
    @MD-sk1iw 3 года назад +1

    Fun, super useful and crystal clear as usual : thank you so much Misa!!!

  • @JohnHenrySheridan
    @JohnHenrySheridan Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @mlegradi1
    @mlegradi1 Год назад

    ハンガリーでありがとう。

  • @jlo5384
    @jlo5384 4 года назад +3

    大好きです

  • @qwert12345asdfgzxcvb
    @qwert12345asdfgzxcvb 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I love the color coding and examples.

  • @cyrilcabane8636
    @cyrilcabane8636 2 года назад

    Thanks for all your videos. You are so good at explaining japanese rules and usage !!! Thanks a lot for your humour, your pedagogy, you culture, you philosophy knowledge and everytihing else !!!! Merci , Merci !!! :D

  • @hannah60000
    @hannah60000 4 года назад +1

    Thank you. I’m trying to pick up my Japanese again and this was a great refresher !!

  • @sixpackkorkman8069
    @sixpackkorkman8069 4 года назад

    ありがとうございますみさ先生🍎

  • @PointTakenChannel
    @PointTakenChannel 4 года назад +1

    These grammar videos are the best! みさ先生ありがとうございます!

  • @WoodsAyam
    @WoodsAyam 4 года назад

    勉強になります。有難うございますMisa先生

  • @FearDeniesFate
    @FearDeniesFate 4 года назад +2

    So to abbreviate: Always use ために except for when dealing with negative, potential and intransitive verbs, in which case use ように instead. (And then there's some weird cases where we have to use のに instead?)

  • @Niure.
    @Niure. 3 года назад

    I really like your all videos it’s help me a lot to learn Japanese I never went to Japanese language school only I watch your video and now will give n4 exam on July

  • @rumplstiltztinkerstein
    @rumplstiltztinkerstein 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the lesson!

  • @maxxi5263
    @maxxi5263 4 года назад

    Misa Sensei! Thank you so much for part 1 and 2.. I have been waiting for these videos!!! Finally I understood how and when to use them correctly!! :)

  • @mssitifa.r9672
    @mssitifa.r9672 4 года назад +3

    yeayy!! Thank you Misa🌻🌻🌻

  • @raymondmarshall2501
    @raymondmarshall2501 4 года назад +1

    I really love the lessons and I cant wait to move to Japan. Domo arigato gozaimasu. (Misa sensei. Anata no totemo kireina) 💐

    • @ishygddtfr
      @ishygddtfr 4 года назад +1

      @Odysseus 2.0 can confirm thirsty beta

  • @1980subrosa
    @1980subrosa 4 года назад

    Great videos!!! Very informative and concise!! Please keep posting them!

  • @juanhinojosa2031
    @juanhinojosa2031 4 года назад +1

    Awesome work! I'll watch it!

  • @salvadorsarmiento2202
    @salvadorsarmiento2202 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful sensei!!

  • @aiswaryakc4057
    @aiswaryakc4057 3 года назад

    Wow.. Ur explanations are so clear.. Thank u so much sensei.. You are amazing sensei

  • @irenabaradinskiene8114
    @irenabaradinskiene8114 4 года назад

    とても良いレッスン👍👍👍👍👍

  • @udayab9233
    @udayab9233 4 года назад

    Misa Sensei, You are doing great help to all of us learning Japanese Language.Please help us with N3 Grammar videos as well.

  • @JoachimderZweite
    @JoachimderZweite 4 года назад

    You are the best. Many thanks.

  • @osonhodeleon
    @osonhodeleon Год назад

    Another great video.

  • @jlo5384
    @jlo5384 4 года назад +1

    ありがとう

  • @aaronwright6891
    @aaronwright6891 4 года назад +3

    These are really great videos for learning Japanese. The level of detail is fantastic. The one problem I have is that she never speaks at normal speed. You have to hear things at a natural speed if you want to understand them in the real world.

    • @martinkolafa5585
      @martinkolafa5585 4 года назад

      For the purpose of practicing listening at normal speed, I recommend watching regular Japanese RUclipsrs. But I agree with your point.

    • @lupomikti
      @lupomikti 4 года назад +19

      I disagree. The purpose of the video is not listening practice, but to learn a point of grammar. And even so, for the level of learner who will be watching these videos it would be impractical to speak in such a way that they wouldn't be able to easily follow along. It's the same with learning how to play an instrument: if you want to play fast you first have to learn to play slowly; only after practicing at the slower speed for a while should you incrementally speed up.
      If you are at the level where watching this video is more like review for you than learning new material, then you should seek your full speed listening practice elsewhere. These videos have to be made with multiple levels of learner in mind, and the two speeds Misa uses I believe are perfect for this style of video. The focus is on clarity and comprehension, and once one manages to get ahold of that, then faster speed listening will be more useful.

    • @leonardolopezosorio5715
      @leonardolopezosorio5715 4 года назад

      @@lupomikti I thoroughly agree.

    • @scarlyt1017
      @scarlyt1017 2 года назад +1

      If you want to listen to her at a normal speed just change the RUclips setting to 1.5x speed

    • @sundowner62james69
      @sundowner62james69 2 года назад

      @@lupomikti I agree with Lupo Mitiki

  • @kristofferendico1640
    @kristofferendico1640 4 года назад

    Beuatiful sensei..thats a useful lesson..Thanks

  • @elpino8503
    @elpino8503 2 года назад

    小説家になるために reminded me of the web syosetu (小説家になろう) where the Re:ZERO web novel is written and which is one of my main motivations to learn japanese

  • @soyosugawara2658
    @soyosugawara2658 4 года назад

    i am learning japnese with misa is great teacher so teach me more.

  • @mossaybo
    @mossaybo 4 года назад

    Super star , as always Misa sensei .

  • @dayelyn443
    @dayelyn443 4 года назад +1

    Could you please make a video on japenese adverbs with lots of example sentences and explanations 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 btw ur amazing ❤️❤️❤️

  • @vietdong8625
    @vietdong8625 4 года назад

    Thank you so much

  • @deutschmitjeff5299
    @deutschmitjeff5299 4 года назад

    This video was extremely useful!! 😁😁

  • @sergiom3988
    @sergiom3988 Год назад

    2:38 to say "to be late" can I also say "おそれる"?

  • @ICANTHEARHER2222
    @ICANTHEARHER2222 4 года назад

    Very useful lesson

  • @jeanleon9662
    @jeanleon9662 4 года назад

    かぜをひかない ように あたたかくしてね
    Keep warm so that you don't catch a cold

  • @arielasentista6637
    @arielasentista6637 2 года назад

    日本語が上手になるようにアニメをたくさん見ています。笑笑

  • @XylerW-sw8yl
    @XylerW-sw8yl Год назад +1

    how do you say "that" as in "I know that I'm strong" or "I pretended that I didn't know what that was"

  • @R_CA
    @R_CA 3 года назад

    Did watch this video, 日本語が上手になるように :)

  • @sundowner62james69
    @sundowner62james69 2 года назад

    Nihongo ga jouzi ni naru youni Misa san ressun o mitte imasu . Kono ressun ga ichiban desu .Domo arigatou gozaimashita Misa sensei.

  • @tidakada1965
    @tidakada1965 4 года назад

    329: What (sentence?) begins with oku, ends with oku and will not get you into trouble with the boss?

  • @doublewings8273
    @doublewings8273 3 года назад +1

    Can I understand "noni" in this way? "no" is to turn the verb into a noun and "ni" means "to". Since "noni" also means "although", I think it makes more sense when one sees a dictionary form of verb followed by "no" and not translate "noni" into "although". What does misa sensei think?

  • @nglkano1507
    @nglkano1507 4 года назад

    Nice work, you have the cutest accent ever 😸👍🏻

  • @llenivra2ty
    @llenivra2ty 4 года назад

    日本語を上手になるために、この動画を見たほうがいいよ‼️ミサ先生、正しいですか❓😁👍🏻

  • @filmardejesus7589
    @filmardejesus7589 4 года назад

    Very Good 👍

  • @lwrlwr
    @lwrlwr 4 года назад +1

    Can にわ replace のに? Thanks.

  • @frzqxn
    @frzqxn 4 года назад +2

    ok so ik you haven’t done a video on explaining the lyrics of songs for a while but
    how about baka mitai

  • @jeanleon9662
    @jeanleon9662 4 года назад

    Kazeo kanai youni atatakakushitene
    Keep warm so that you can't catch a cold
    遅れない ように/ために
    め様シュオかけつよ
    I'll set the alarm, so that...
    シュシュする種々できろよに
    いsつdyあtthe library so I can't focus

  • @orhalimi
    @orhalimi 4 года назад

    really good but the last example confused me. Didnt you said we use ように with なる? so why 健康になるために?

    • @orhalimi
      @orhalimi 4 года назад

      nevermind saw the exeption :D

  • @christianschulz2340
    @christianschulz2340 2 года назад

    but i still enjoy your videos a lot. merry christmas

  • @aaronj849
    @aaronj849 4 года назад

    AS ALWAYS. ありがとううううううううううう MISA SAMA

  • @max-bh2bk
    @max-bh2bk 4 года назад

    I was reading news on NHK news web easy, and saw "ウイルスをほかの人にうつないためには", why is ために used with negation here? Why is は being used too?

    • @moe-kirimura
      @moe-kirimura 4 года назад

      うつさないために/うつさないように are the same. "ためには" is short form of "ために(あなたが)するべきことは" . So it means , "How not to do it , is that you should........". and ためには is ok but ようには is not ok. But you can say "ようにするには" which is the same as "ためには".

  • @Codyyyyyyyyyy
    @Codyyyyyyyyyy 4 года назад

    From what I've learned so far, ~のに can also mean "despite/although". How can you tell when the meaning is that or "in order to" which you explained in this video? Is it just context? Thanks!

    • @DoktorSo
      @DoktorSo 4 года назад +3

      The examples given are with verbs that take に as a particle to show that something is needed FOR/written WITH/etc. The の in front turns the verb into a noun.
      So for: 絵を描くのにパソコンを使います: I use a computer TO draw a picture (I am using a computer FOR the DRAWING of a picture.)
      Second example:
      この公園に入るのに千円かかります。It costs 1000 Yen TO enter this park. (It costs 1000 Yen FOR the ENTERING of this park.)
      The other のに used in unfortunate cirumstances (ex. 友達の家に行ったのに、誰もいなかった - I went to my friend's house, but (unfortunately) no one was there) etc. is "one thing". The のに from this video is essentially one の to make the verb a noun, and one に to mark the relation of object to the verb (for, with, etc.)
      I hope this was clear, if I didnt get the point across please ask!

    • @Codyyyyyyyyyy
      @Codyyyyyyyyyy 4 года назад +1

      @@DoktorSo Thanks! that really helped a lot in connecting some dots that I couldn't with Misa's video alone.

    • @moggless
      @moggless 3 года назад

      @@DoktorSo are のに and ように interchangeable? it seems they can be for example
      "in order to (のに)enter the park, i need to pay" and "i need to pay so that(ように) i can get into the park."

  • @faburisu2440
    @faburisu2440 4 года назад

    ありがとうみさ先生! But I have a question : 帰るように一時間かかります。 Is it possible to say this ?

    • @moe-kirimura
      @moe-kirimura 4 года назад

      No. 帰るのに一時間かかります。is correct.

  • @hirodesu2907
    @hirodesu2907 4 года назад

    Arigatou for teaching japanese im both studying japanese and school studies xD

  • @吳建國-h1x
    @吳建國-h1x 4 года назад +1

    よかったです。

  • @GoldenEmperor5Manifest
    @GoldenEmperor5Manifest Год назад

    Gosh I need my nose to stop bleeding -- shuuchuu dekiru you-ni. 😍

  • @Sh1k4m4ruN4r4
    @Sh1k4m4ruN4r4 4 года назад

    Not a big deal, but in 11:31 て is misssing in 書いてください

  • @Schneevxngestern
    @Schneevxngestern 3 года назад

    Nihongo ga jouzu ni naru you-ni, Japanese Ammo no Misa no video wo miteimasu 😂 (tadashii desu ka? Is this sentence right?)

  • @the_n00b_gamergirl
    @the_n00b_gamergirl 4 года назад

    Can you also say:
    🤔なれるように~ (na*RE*ru)
    🤔治れるように~ (nao*RE*ru)
    (= so that it CAN heal~... So that you CAN become~ ...) ???
    Or is it better to not put those verbs in the potential form?🤔

  • @daniela1003
    @daniela1003 3 года назад

    動画ありがとうございます >-

  • @Keshin_akira7391
    @Keshin_akira7391 3 года назад

    Hello misa 先生。
    Is it おおきい is an i adjectives?
    Then why 見えるように大き(な)字で書いてください。

    • @Billy-vr9iu
      @Billy-vr9iu 2 года назад

      大きい and 大きな ahs the same meaning, but ookii can be conjugate and can stay in the predicate. Ookina has to be before a noun and cant be conjugated
      Ookina refers to something more subjective, immaterial and "ookii" is more used for material/physical things

    • @Billy-vr9iu
      @Billy-vr9iu 2 года назад

      あの人は大きな心を持っています
      That person has a big heart
      あの人は大きい
      that person is big

  • @hellobyebye1618
    @hellobyebye1618 4 года назад

    What does non-volition mean

  • @tiggerie345
    @tiggerie345 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for the explanation. I'm using Tobira, and the "explanation" they gave for ように was a god awful mess.

  • @thekim808
    @thekim808 4 года назад

    I have a hard time finding some of her video she keeps referring back to :(

  • @rtsa4633
    @rtsa4633 4 года назад

    You have a slight British sound to your English. It sounds cool :)

    • @lastninjaitachi
      @lastninjaitachi 4 года назад

      Most Japanese people do when they learn english. Not sure why but I have noticed this amongst friends.

    • @moe-kirimura
      @moe-kirimura 4 года назад

      @@lastninjaitachi We learn only American English at school. But it's hard for us, so sometimes it sounds like a little British but we don't try to make it sounds like British!

  • @elireyna9464
    @elireyna9464 11 месяцев назад

    Even N4 grammar points can be so subtle...I can't even imagine N2/N1...good lord lol

  • @ik.japanadventure9551
    @ik.japanadventure9551 4 года назад

    Teach me about work please for example s can i absent Tommorow

  • @jeanleon9662
    @jeanleon9662 4 года назад

    Shushu dekiro youni toshokanji benkyosuru
    Tabehoudai
    Tangohan made toruyouni
    Sempai ni kysuite mora eru youni mashita
    トドける deliver
    アマゾンのパ欠届いた
    届くように
    とかまでにと度胸に置くてください

  • @etiennelj
    @etiennelj 3 года назад

    How about には?

  • @funnywonderanimals7735
    @funnywonderanimals7735 4 года назад

    misa san ni kizuitemorarenaiyouni, itsumo nihongo wo gambatte benkyoushiteimasu. soushite misa sama no juugyuu wo mitteimasu

  • @SuperYoda7
    @SuperYoda7 4 года назад

    I think we can combine them too, right?
    日本人の友達と話せるようになるためにみさ先生の動画で勉強しています。

  • @fredcatoriginal4419
    @fredcatoriginal4419 2 года назад

    It’s so confusing about のに、I thought のに is even or eventhough..😢😢

    • @sandiereagle
      @sandiereagle Год назад

      it is also that, some grammar points have multiple uses and in this case のに has multiple uses, in order to and even though

  • @senpaitv5251
    @senpaitv5251 4 года назад

    you good in english.

  • @MrPapillonNoir
    @MrPapillonNoir 3 года назад

    difficult to understand this youni : "天吾くん、目を開けて、と青豆は囁くように言う。"

  • @Rtcmanga_YouTube_Channel
    @Rtcmanga_YouTube_Channel 4 года назад +1

    You're soo cute! Thanks for the lesson!

  • @baeedayounis4583
    @baeedayounis4583 4 года назад

    I wish l were good at katakana! Misa make a lesson 😅

  • @Polohere
    @Polohere 3 года назад

    wakarimasen...