What is Baylan Skoll Searching For on Peridea?
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There's something dark hanging over Baylan Skoll. While he seems like a reasonable and honorable individual there when he reaches Peridea we begin to see another side of him emerge. Lord Skoll seeks a greater power, a new beginning, which makes us wonder what is he trying to end?
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yea! thanks for your thought provoking videos. Also, if you started the "dolphin revoilution to save our republic" yes, I would probably join. because you are very good at acting and i turst you because of that. this is the way. (on a serious note, I actaully would like to sit and talk with you for many hours, i think we might be on the same page.... those dolphines....)
Again Allen, you’re using Star Wars as a cover for your Centrist beliefs.
No one is saying democracies are bad. What people are saying is that our democracies shouldn’t only be at the behest of the rich and powerful, who always poison the functions and outcomes of democracies and that fascists and far right freaks shouldn’t be given any consideration like other viewpoints because of their deplorable views that seek to deprive other people of their rights as human beings.
That’s great if you personally think incremental change is the best way to invoke long lasting change, but unless you can prove empirically that it is the best way to bring about positive change in society, then you need to tone it down with the “I know better” attitude you always put on in your videos.
Your absurd commitment to centrism really brings down the quality and overall points you make in your videos about Star Wars’ relation to politics in real life.
I know Generation Tech wants people to apply Star Wars lessons to everyday life, but how is that supposed to work with modern American politics? He keeps framing that there are good people on both sides of the political aisle and that no side is perfect, but he also points out that despite the flaws of the Old and New Republics, they’re still better than the Galactic Empire.
Honestly while I could consider myself a neutral or centrist, I lean more to the Democrat side given the way Republicans have gone under Trump. Even though I want to move to Japan, it’s honestly less because of my cynicism of the United States and more of how worried I am if Trump wins the presidency again.
I get that Biden is unpopular and Trump is no Adolf Hitler, but can we really trust a guy who seems supportive of Vladimir Putin and believes America should come first before it’s allies and who also pulls us out of so many international organizations? Not to mention how he used to make the KKK and Proud Boys sound as reasonable as the people who protest them.
Alan just keeps going on about listening to people who you disagree with and that just comes off as confusing given how dangerous Trump seems. I get that the entire Republican Party doesn’t support him, but he’s been the lead guy in polls despite being put on trial for multiple criminal charges right now.
I guess what I’m asking is, am I following Alan’s advice if I decide to side with Democrats against Republicans because of Donald Trump or not?
@@tristankawatsuma8962 I don't want to use this platform to tell you who to vote for. I want people to just be more independent and aware of the process... and hopefully make a decision on their own. Plus you seem to understand the situation and stakes pretty well ;)
@@tristankawatsuma8962 This is why I don’t like centrist ideology. You centrists think people like Trump are still not fascists even though they engage in fascistic actions like invoking insurrections, trying to overturn the results of democratic elections, trying to deny or restrict the right to vote to anyone they don’t like, enforcing bigotry against women and marginalized groups by simping for the police that kill black people everyday and overturning Roe v. Wade among other things, I could go on but I think I’ve made my point to show I’m not just labeling people like Trump as fascists because “I don’t like them” or whatever.
Trump and people like him do not have to be one to one with Hitler to be fascists.
People like you and Alan can’t even recognize fascism when it’s right under your noses. Why do you think white nationalists/white supremacists support Trump and the Republican Party exactly? It’s not rocket science to see what these right wing freaks are and you centrists, moderates, or whatever you and Alan want to call yourselves are part of the problem.
Baylan is such an interesting character and Ray Stevenson is a legend. RIP.
And RIP his future in the cinematic universe. Coulda had his own movie eventually
When we lost him, and Christopher lee we lost two true Shakespearean actors. Every word they say and every facial expression they make is so compelling. Subtle acting can be so much better than stage acting
Could not have said it any better. I am so intrigued by Baylon. I fell in love with the character during his fight with Ahsoka. His “claymore” lightsaber fighting style was something I very much loved to see.
It is a shame Ray Stevenson is gone, but his performance in this show was phenomenal.
The word you are searching for is intruiging, or mysterious. He's not interesting, there's not much development he's had.
Rest in peace, Ray Stevenson. He’s one with the force now.
I feel like Baylon and Qui-gon are different sides of the same coin. Different shades of grey, one wanted to save the universe that they had, while the other wants to re start it and try again
Baylin's Grey to Qui Gon's Gray
Qui-gon was unambiguously light, not grey.
As the comment above said. Saying Qui Gon was anything but pure jedi and pure light is wrong. People really don't understand his character. Also Baylon is definitely not grey, he is an evil force whether we like it or not. He's just much more nuanced evil, but he is evil. He's a bad guy and uses the dark side.
An argument could be made that the Jedi are light, but I see Qui-gons 'grey streak' as a character defining positive thing. He was renowned for not following the rules, for not doing as asked by the council and doing things his own way, regardless of the views of the jedi. And whilst Baylon is a far darker shade of grey, him keeping his word to Sabine and not wanting to end Ahsoka are both examples of not being completely on the side of the dark side. He's a man with a contradictory point of view to both the Jedi and the Sith
@gizmo66 He wasn't grey tho. He just didn't follow the Jedi Council because he knew their judgement wasn't good. He followed the living force itself, making him more jedi and pure light than anyone.
He manipulated Sabine into giving him the map, that's it. He may have not wanted to actually kill Ahsoka, but it's because he still holds that jedi part of him in him. It isn't because he's a good person, it's because he can't let go of his Jedi Past.
The way Baylon utters the words " it repeats again & again & again" is truly epic
This has all happened before and it will all happen again...
Oops, wrong franchise.
Man is tired. *Done*.
I hear echos of Kreia, her disdain for the Force and the conflict it creates.
It felt like he was playing history through is head, not like a dumb believer but like someone who can recite every example, knows his history and it came to mind in that moment.
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To be fair, even without the Force, the galaxy will still be plagued with war 😅
I’m so glad Ray Stevenson won this role. He was perfect to play Baylan. I hope he’s at peace and proud with all of the work he left behind. If there is a season 2, there will be a huge hole felt with him gone.
Baylan really reminds me of Anakin had he not fallen to the dark side but still lived through the fall of the Order. He is from the same generation as Anakin, young Jedi knights that just passed the trials and were thrown into the meat grinder of War. He is a desabused Jedi that liked the memory of the Order and his friends but wants to end the cycle. Not through light or dark side but sheer power, something to force the Galaxy to be peaceful. Like Anakin his fear is making him lash out. He is not cruel or maniacal evil like a Sith and could even be considered a decent person. But he is working towards destruction. I really think he is there to remind Ashoka (and us) of Anakin, through his looks, his armor, his fighting style and strangely through his kindness and compassion.
I thought he was cruel in ep 1 tho.
@@lcflngn He showed regrets and told it didn't have to come to this. Je didn't do anything worse than Anakin did in AotC or the Clone wars.
I have to disagree on th fighting style being similar to Anakin. I think he fights more like a knight. Infact I think he's playing the same role as Anakin. The Hero that's willing to go to ANY length to achieve the goal which he finds to be most just.
@@arthurbriand2175 Yes, you’re right. Still cruel tho. I think Allen’s wrap up was brilliant. The New Republic is a complete mess, but they’re trying for the best. Baylan has a twisted sense of right & wrong.
@lcflngn Cruel to who? The rebels kill without remorse, etc. They are not as conflicted as he is.
I first saw Ray in HBO's Rome and was blown away by how good this man was. He set the bar and gave it his all. RIP, Ray. You will be remembered.
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'Most Norse gods like Odin, Hemsworth, Heimdall, Mikkelsen'... nice touch.
It's interesting that Baylan doesn't consider himself a Jedi. He even mentions that he's traing Shin for something more. He's villanous and that he seems more than willing to sacrifice others to acheive whatever endgame he's after.
I believe this is a ploy made (possibly) by joruus C boath
Ray did such an amazing job with Baylan. It's so sad that such a talented actor was taken from us
Baylon has a fanatical righteousness to him that equates to real danger. He’s not a mad dog, he doesn’t enjoy even small moments of violence, but he also doesn’t give a shit if TONS of people get hurt.
Against him, Shin is a mad chihuahua, she thinks she likes violence, but I think she will find her heart.
From the start I saw a lot of parallels between Baylan and Dooku, with their disillusion with the Jedi order and politics and having grand designs to "make a better galaxy," combined with charm and charisma. It makes me wonder if Baylan ever met Dooku.
its so sad that the actor passed away. this is the first media ive watched that hes in and i was instantly won over, and getting more of him in another season or his own series wouldve been amazing
He was the bad guy in The Other Guys.
Great movie.
Ray Stevenson appears on films like the Biopic “Kill the Irishman”, “Punisher War Zone” and even the Indian action film “RRR” 👩🏾💻💁🏽♀️❤️ have an awesome year, Love
He also does an awesome turn as Blackbeard in seasons 3&4 of Blacksails (a very underated show)
@@sealofapproval637 I loved that show, but I found the character, Max, extremely annoying.
I am genuinely worried that Baylan is being called by something truly malevolent. He's so compelling, I *want* him to turn to the light... but I worry he's going to embrace the ancient evil dolphin gods that destroyed the Nightsister civilization
i love how you constantly turn this star wars stuff into meaningful commentary about the real world and our problems and (possible) solutions.. GREAT stuff!
100% agree! Love the humour as well, definitely a more positive outlook on the world around us
This dude is SOOOOOO impressive!
Cant agree more.
Thats what george lucas purposely did with star wars. It is a commentary on humanity. He has said that many times
So happy Ray Got to play this character, he does such an amazing job with Baylon.
There are echoes of Kreia in Baylan.
If Filoni goes full lore nerd and has her find a way to live on either through the Jedi's method of becoming one with the Force or through some ancient Sith ritual they would have a fascinating conversation, his ideology is incredibly similar to Kreia's, I think they'd come to some sort of agreement and she would help guide him in what to do next
Baylan reminds me a little of Dooku in his efforts to find a middle ground between light and dark. Sadly Dooku slowly, bit by bit slipped too far into the darkness (Sidious's manipulations ensured that) but Baylan doesn't seem to be slipping up in the same way, he may still slip up eventually, but his attempt to find a unique perspective is what makes him one of this series best characters. He's like this weird mix of Qui-Gon, Dooku, and also to some extent, Kreia from KOTOR 2, only he's more ruthless than Qui-Gon, more merciful than Dooku and far, FAR more sane than Kreia who was a raving lunatic with several insightful ideas. I'd say he also reflects Revan a little, but Revan is one of those characters that everyone has their own preferred version of.
In other words, Baylan seems like a "calm and reasonable person..." I'm glad he's not abusive to Shin. But he's probably not that nice to anyone else. I wonder why she has such a place in his heart.
I'll bet it was like reverse Kanan-Ezra. Shin probably thieving on the street and he caught her, and sensed her potential.
Alan, this channel has become my favorite TV show. The level of intelligence and thoughtfulness in your commentary is just amazing. I really enjoy and appreciate it, and hope it gets others to think about our world a bit differently, because god knows it’s needed.
Absolutely tragic to lose Ray Stevenson. RIP. He would have been top of the A list after this performance
Baylan reminds me so much of Kreia, and well, if you've played KOTOR II, you know that she is less than honorable and that does not bode well for Baylan or the crew in Ahsoka.
Bro could have an amazing political career but instead he keeps us informed on starwars....
What a legend
well said. Alan is senator Xiono in disguise
@@GreyJedi17haha i was thinking that too
I get the feeling that this is gonna be a classic example of someone not truly understanding what they're looking for until they find it, only to realize too late that what they've found is more horrible than they imagined.
Well Said. "You have a Republic, if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin
He knew there are problems, but he also knew it was the best shot and as long as one side held the other to account, it works.
Like you said, when one side tries to silence and flip the board of the others is when we have issues. Losing sometimes is part of the game.
I love the small references that you weave into your script. "Odin, Hemsworth..." or "Marx, Bannon"
His rivalry with dolphins is incredibly funny
Ashoka said something in episode 1 or 2 “I did the wrong thing for the right reasons.” I think this is a theme for the season and along with Baylan as a character are reminders of the fact that Filoni is an incredible writer.
One of the things that has Baylen's character that had always impressed me is his off-hand practicality. He never shows off, his apparel is less of a uniform than your average Jedi, and his whole demeanor revolves around getting what he wants with minimal effort.
Rather than jumping to violence first, ask questions later, he talks to people and attempts to either discourage them from getting in the way or join his direction of thinking. This is very helpful when building a network of allies, or at least friendly contacts.
If talking doesn't work, only then does he resort to violence. But unlike Darth Maul or the very early Darth Vader, he's not flashy. Instead of exerting an excessive amount of energy to accomplish the task of butchering an enemy, Baylen simply strolls around and kills everyone near him. Nothing flashy or extreme in his method at all.
But what stuck out to me the most recently, was the size of his lightsaber hilt. It's longer than usual. One of the things that bugged me when I was looking for a lightsaber to call my own was how short the hilts were. I've done plenty of sparring with fencing blades and shinai sticks, all of which have a standardized space for your hands to counteract the weight of the blade, but replica Star Wars lightsaber hilts are always too short or too awkward.
Baylen's lightsaber hilt though, is around the same length of a katana. This by itself makes it between 2"-4" longer than Anakin or Obi Wan's lightsaber hilts
The longer hilt gives a much better advantage for both quick and powerful strikes. I know that lightsaber combat also involves a mental battle with the force, but it's also physical, and giving yourself an edge on the physical side will certainly allow you more time to focus on the mental aspect of the fight. Baylen is literally boosting his weaker aspect by making his physical side easier
Honestly though, this sort of topic is something I'd love to see in a video
I trust that Alan would only give us orders for a well-planned and coordinated offensive against the Dolphin menace
I love your breakdowns and analysis of all things Star Wars, but something that continues to impress me is how you expose the humanity behind all of these characters. You allow us to sympathize and let go of our prejudices. Thank you for all of the amazing content and looking forward to more in the future!
I love the parallels between Baylan and Kreia so effin much. If they did some sort of clever reference to her in the series I will shit my pants until I die. The ominous music that plays really helps set the mood, taking me straight back to Peragus.
Filoni probably loves Kreia as much as the next fan (who doesn’t love Kreia I’ll fight them) so I think it’s very possible we could see some of reference. Even if it’s as simple as Baylan saying something akin to “To destroy both the Jedi and Sith, and at last give this galaxy a chance at peace… Of course, I wouldn’t be the first to suggest such a thing…”
I've never been so hyped for an Ashoka's episode a bit strange since no big reveals are excpected. I guess your theory about Peridea did most of the job for me.
You really have grown as a person over the years, recently Ive been watching more and more of your videos and your tone is much more positive. im enjoying the content
Baylan is a awesome character
What if Shin Hati is intended to be a vessel for Aboloth in this universe?
People like Baylon Skoll are often charismatic and appear as thoughtful. When cornered, their brutal and merciless selves rise to surface. At this point, they will believe they will have nothing to lose. Masks will come off and the monsters will be front and center. (Like Jim Jones of Jonestown, Guyana)
That could be said for every human beings. Animals will also lash out if they cornered and threatened.
He sort of feels like an incredibly good filler for the fan's craving for trawn while they couldn't have him return in the first episode - testament to Dave Falonis writing
Thanks for all your work Alan. Hope you’re doing good. Hope we get to see Baylan’s story fully play out.
Skoll and Doku would've gotten a long pretty well, men that forgot the saying the road to hell is paved with good intensions.
You do an absolutely amazing job on this. The thought you've put into this is really impressive.
Baylan reminds me a little of Kain from the Legacy of Kain game series...
"On one side of the coin you have the Jedi and the Republic, the other side you have the Sith and the Empire... but suppose you toss the coin enough times... suppose one time, it lands on its edge."
It took me quite a while to get into DisCount Dooku, but after episode 6 I'm all in. To me, he's a more "approachable" Thanos.
Your videos make more sense than most other Star Wars content on here. I think this is because you understand that any "galaxy far far away" is still a creation of Earth-based civilization and the minds that spring from it. We of course have little idea what is out there beyond what we can see in the night sky, but we (mostly) understand it's nothing like what our fantasies of it are like, so despite that, we craft stories the tell us of extra-galactic worlds and those that inhabit them. The success (or failure) of these largely depends on the level of story-telling skill behind it all. George Lucas, and to some extent, Dave Filoni, have a fairly good amount of that skill, as does Stephen Spielberg. So to analyze someone like Baylan Skoll is to do so with an Earth-based sensibility. Skoll tells us (in Episode 7) that the cycle repeats, and what a waste that ultimately is. We cannot help but agree with it, but is destruction the answer? That cycle has surely repeated itself over and over in our planetary history, on a greater scale each time. But it seems little is learned from it. The powers that be - mostly in Europe - were able to create a "century of peace" from the defeat of Napoleon to the start of WWI. Along the way, they laid the foundation for the world we still live in today. Of course, now the stakes are much higher with the unlocking of the secrets of the atom and the potential for mass extinction. Maybe we tamed the nuclear genie, only to now confront the results of continued carbon burning and the ever-increasing danger it presents, and we are confronted with corporate greed - mostly by old men who will soon die - and its refusal to do anything about it.
47 seconds after posting. Y’all, the dopamine flowing
So beautifully said in the wrap-up Allen! It’s good to have hope, even or especially when what we get is imperfect.
Excellent. I just recently discovered your channel and have been watching several of your videos, and have been impressed by your willingness and ability to analyze these SF concepts in the real-world contexts they are derived from. This is what a good analysis should do, and it's appreciated.
"I dont want to turn the wheel. I want to break it." Filoni obviously watched GoT and took notes.
These kind of videos are really the best of them. Thanks.
Mr. Stevenson has always been a pleasure to witness when acting. Really unfortunate that he had to leave so early. He had a habit of elevating each series he was in.
Allen thanks for bringing up the short comings in all of us. Those whom wish to throw stones should examine there own flaws.
Skoll reminds me of a refined take on Kriea/darth traya's philopsophy on the nature of the galaxy and force
I have watched several channels about many different franchises and I have to say Allen, yours is by far the most insightful, interesting and well done. I love the in depth analysis with the occasional witty humor. On top of all this you're very easy on the eyes! Looking forward to more videos.
Really enjoy your work and appreciate the nuance and thoughtfulness when drawing connections between the fiction we love and the world we are responsible for shaping.
If Baykal Skoll took the longer view of human history then he would know he didn’t need to do anything, the current society is perfectly fine in destroying its self. Sure he could take the easy way out a fight for the smallest, incremental , change possible and just hope that it is so easily undone. But just like Plapatin with order 66, Luke with a proton torpedo, Ballen choose to take large action. And like with Luke if millions who are just following orders must die then that is the cost.
What if Baylan Skoll's searching for Yoda's home world? It doesn't appear to be in the known galaxy, so why not this new one? You'd have to imagine an army of Yodas, Yaddles, and Grogus would be unstoppable.
"We all know that an unprepared offensive against the dolphins will only make them stronger." - I feel we should have this on a T-shirt or something...
Baylan Skoll is Darth Treya, repeating the cycle again. Ironic, isn't it - it's like poetry. It rhymes.
I think all this talk of ending the cycle points toward Abeloth, because in legends she was a being so powerful the Jedi and the Sith had against her and for a brief time abandon their animosity toward each other.
Ah, the Kreia grindset. Interesting.
Also, don’t forget Skårsgaard!
You know, Alan’s hate of Dolphins is understandable. They’re the only other species apart from Humans who kill for fun…
Ok, back again just to say that you have a gift for this. I am SO impressed and I am not usually impressed.
Great video, thank you
LMAO at the idea of ancient people trying to scare their god-dogs into dropping the sun and moon. I bet they took the drop it tone too. Drop it! Ehhh... Drop it!
Baylan has been the most relatable force user on screen for me. logical. Curious. Determined. Honestly a good complex character.
I love this video. Your commentary is beautiful and funny and insightful. Thank you.
I always like your videos, they are entertaining and thought provoking. Well done.
This is one of your best videos and commentary. Excellent analysis.
Great job ..Im very impressed by your thoughtful and correct commentary, keep up the good work. We need you.
Watching the series thus far, I don't think that any of the characters are "evil"...they aren't out to cause mayhem, pain, or destruction, and even Thrawn's ultimate goals seem different from what were originally the Empire's. Rather, I think we have a lot of very well written, even better acted, characters who have conflicting goals that set them at opposition to each other. I have to admit that Baylan and Shin have really become favored characters, more than I thought would be possible. Even Thrawn, with his ominous alliance with the Great Mothers doesn't come across as "evil"...just a person who has goals divergent from those of the "heroes".
Someone else commented Balyan's similarity to Kreia from Kotor2 and i also see this. He witnessed the fall of the jedi, the corruption of the Chosen one and the ascension of the sith. His faith in the force has been broken and i think he blames the force itself. My guess is there us a force wound on Peridia and Baylan seeks to use it to kill the force to end the cycle of light and dark.
Man I love these videos
Been here for years and hope to be here for a few more
Sometimes I agree that we should just start over, it seems the only way to wash away the greed, hate and apathy. Thanks for reminding me that Im not always right.
Thank you again for your insight and wisdom!
Great thoughtful video, as always. But do not lose faith, we shall stand ready for your word to throw back the dolphin hordes.
I love all those jokes about dolphins, it's great to have a running gag. Keep it up and keep people laughing at the silliness of it all.
well, i did not expect all of THAT when i clicked on this video. how well thought out and presented. subscribed.
Rest in peace, Ray Stevenson. Such a legendary actor, and he was wonderful as Baylan Skoll. He will definitely be missed, and it's such a shame that this fascinating character's journey is probably going to end here.
Baylan is a darck knight type, haven`t seen this type in ears
Baylan Skoll is the most neatly groomed Jedi in all of recorded history.
I often remind folks that the 2nd phrase in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution says ‘in order to form a MORE perfect Union’, not ‘in order to form a PERFECT Union’. Perfection in this regard would be impossible because every individual is different. The best that can be hoped for is good organization and no oppressive policies.
Two things…. 1. BEST Star Wars channel on the interweb. 2. Your dolphin schtick is hysterical.
Just our luck, they finally made a great character and all we can ever get is this season. RIP Punisher!
Love this take also how your showing the Norse mythology Filoni appears to be drawing on. Although one little bit at the end there “the best revolutions are incremental” I’m a history major I studied revolutions as part of my focus which was on Cold War Geopolitics I must say unfortunately incremental changes aren’t considered a revolution. It is the actual suddenness and explosive change that defines a revolution. It doesn’t have to be inherently violent there are examples of peaceful or mostly peaceful revolutions but yeah sorry being that guy
"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was.”
Hey, this was a really really good video!!
Tell you what, that soeech right there was thoughtful, well put, logical, common sensical, and actually quite inspiring. You recently popped up on my feed due too star wars and you got a subscriber in me. Very well done sir.
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I like how you put a civics/history lesson in with your Star Wars content. Really loved the history lesson about Samurai in the Ahsoka is a ronin video. Can't wait for the Ahsoka episode tonight. Awesome work, keep up the great content.
I thought his Karl Marx jab was a little bold for a Star Wars content creator in the “first world”. Easy words to say high in the tower imo
Great take on things.
Dude you are amazing!
great content, thank you!!!
I enjoy all your SW content
Baylon Skoll is one of a very rare type of villian, done well. He is a Lawful Evil character. Most of the time we see a batcrap insane Chaotic Evil character, like Emperor Palpatine, or a Neutral Evil character, like Darth Vader, who is evil for evil's sake. Baylon is evil, but he has an overall purpose and method to being evil.
he's not searching for anything. He just wanted to get out of the galaxy. He's sick of being a lacky, so he sending Shin off to finish the job and he's walking away.
You say you are kidding about Abeloth, I had a fleeting thought that maybe Abeloth is in this galaxy...
This video has made realize that he is the brother. He will end up with the dark saber and him and ashoka will get trapped in a giant untraceable space cube.
What truly makes Baylan Skoll dangerous is that he is a BELIEVER. What he believes we don't know, but he is the one who will allow the galaxy to burn, to condemn billions to die, all in the name of *fill in the blank*. Baylan is the true villain of Ahsoka.
Amazing. "One must destroy in order to create"- Skoll
Well said
If the Abeloth theory everyone is talking about comes to fruition I believe he brought his apprentice with him so Abeloth can possess her.