Thanks so much! The Solar siblings seem to make it on all the best performance per dollar lists! Best Hill climbers is my recent favorite! (both the Solar P1 3.0 and Solar P1 Pro appear there too!). -Paul ruclips.net/video/dqJyyWeYeTA/видео.htmlsi=XO7mJXP1c_pydIfy
Have you seen this ESG review? That was a fun one. I think the scooter is still here. -Paul ruclips.net/video/JXSobbkDc2s/видео.htmlsi=5LgTznfC6ag3uVha
Great review guys! At just about 65lbs, the P1 3.0 also folds up crazy small and fits into most trunks easily. Makes it the ultimate travel scooter for something that has that much power and torque.
I want the Dualtron X Limited. Over 80 miles is crazy. That's what I care about the most when I look at scooters. 210 6 foot. I wish they made off-road tires for it as I'm 25 miles east of Pittsburgh in a rural area.
Yeah the Nami Klima is my scooter of choice on the list, it just does everything really well. And great value for money as its a lot cheaper in Australia than it is in America.
Love my RoadRunner RX7, it is so fast yet smooth, and just glues to the ground with the PMT tires. The customer service is far above any other brand as well. High quality products with equal high quality customer service!
Awesome video as usual. It would be really cool to see you guys check out the Yume Raptor and Predator. I feel like the Raptor could be breaking some of the price records, because it seems damn fast for its price.
Just a suggestion, But a more accurate comparison would be acceleration versus wattage voltage ect The price of a scooter has nothing to do with performance and should not be part of a performance review Anyways, regardless, still another cool video, friends ✌️ Edit * I have a Segway GT2 Megatron# 324 still running stock 52v battery and performance numbers are different compared to your testing Our SGT2 easily hits 48 MPH on level ground, 55mph+ going downhill, 0-30@3.72+/-.3 military GPS confirmed(we live on Fort Drum)
Thanks for the feedback. The comments I get most are things like “what’s the fastest scooter I can get for $xxx” or what’s the longest range scooter for $xxx. We always want to answer the most asked questions. But I appreciate your perspective and will think about what that approach would look like. The problem I come across with with motor wattage is that it’s the least accurate spec. So it’s almost like plotting acceleration vs scooter color. I’m joking of course, but I’ve seen “500W - nominal” scooters just blow away “1,000W nominal” scooters. Almost all of my metrics are ranked vs price because it’s revealing of performance per dollar. I do a few charts which are range vs weight and top speed vs weight since some folks want range or speed but they can’t lift a super heavy scooter. I love scooter data. Even when I don’t put graphs in the videos, I’m looking at 10 or 15 graphs every time I do a review so I have an idea in my head where each one stacks up. It would be an interesting (and easy) video to make, to compare spec wattage to acceleration, since I have all of these numbers already for 180-something scooters. I would feel like I was calling out some of the scooters if I did that, because I think much of the time even the brands don’t know how much power the scooter makes. Some day I’ll get a scooter dyno, but even then I don’t think I could figure out a way to dyno front and rear motors at the same time, since the wheelbases are all different and the scooter would be trying to fall over the whole time because I wouldn’t be able to clamp the front end in place as you can with single motor scooters. When I raced motorcycles I dyno tuned my race bike myself a couple times a year. My race sponsor would loan me dyno time and I’d run it myself :-) All of our top speed numbers are tested on flat ground and are the average of the top speeds during two opposite direction runs. This cancels out small headwinds or tailwinds as well as small inclines. -Paul
Thanks for asking. We use a Vbox Sport. It’s GPS based, but uses accelerometers to interpolate 19 data points between GPS pulses, so you get data at 20Hz. For top speed I take two opposite direction runs and then pick 2 to 3 seconds of sustained top speed in each direction and take the average during that few seconds to eliminate spurious peaks and valleys. Then average the two opposite direction numbers together. The 0 to 30 numbers etc are also two-direction averages, but here based on single data points in each direction of course. -Paul
Nice video. Really happy to watch a video about acceleration which the most important spec for me. However, why not compare the ninebot g2 max which is probably the most sold out scooter in the word at the moment ??
I tend to use the Ninebot Max G2 a lot as a reference point in our videos, but didn't think to quote its 0 to 15 time in this one since it's not one of the best for acceleration vs price. It's a lot quicker to 15 than the original Max though. The Max was 6.4 seconds from 0 to 15 and the Ninebot MAX G2 is only 4.2 seconds from 0 to 15. I could have just stuck it in the middle of the graph at the beginning as a reference point. I'm glad to hear someone asking for it to be used even more as a reference point than I've been using it, because sometimes I feel like we refer to it too much. I love benchmarks! -Paul
Big Paul!! We need some incredible drag races between the fastest scooters and e bikes!! it's getting crazy out there - the new e-ride pro SS 3.0, SR, surron ultrabe, talaria mx5, and altis sigma VS.........the wolf king gtr, e move roadster, teewing, etc!!! We're all dying to see them line up!!!! I'm debating on getting an emove roadster or eride pro SR for next spring!! LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it may be. I wonder how that will feel. It should soak up the bumps better, but I expect it will dive when braking because of the direction of the braking forces. Michael Sha is a scooter genius! I also love that he rides his own scooters so much and is so in touch with riders directly. -Paul
Love the channel guys keep up the great work. Where can a person find a list of all the scooters y'all have tested? If y'all don't have one yet can we please get one
The specs look really interesting! Big removable battery. Huge 13" tires, dual rear shocks. Lots of cool stuff. I hope I get a chance to test it at some point. -Paul
I'm challenging all scooter manufacturers to make PMTs standard out of the box stock on their higher end scooters. Quality soft rubber will only improve acceleration times and overall ride quality but many will never experience this because of bad stock tires.
That would be amazing! So far the RoadRunner RX7 is the only scooter we've tested that comes with them and wow, the difference in ride quality is noticeable! -Paul
I keep hoping Hover-1 will send us one, but I feel like they have some other newer models which are more likely to come our way. Thanks for the data point. -Paul
You mentioned NIU having a 2 year warranty. I've owned 3 KQI 3's, Two Blacks and one the step below that. They do not honor their Warranty very well. Their tires frequently go flat on pavement only driving. The cost to ship to NIU is on the consumer. If you don't save the box, (I did for all 3) you have to purchase something to ship it safely and cover the cost. Considering the KQI3 Black was purchased for 800.00, shipping of 150.00 to have the tire repaired (which we tried to repair ourselves and could not find a local dealer to do - it was impossible for us) is a huge cost. Lastly, after a negative review of their poor customer service on Amazon, they offered a full refund - then reneged on their offer and Amazon decided to offer a partial refund upon return. So 1 scooter was returned due to the faulty tires. The second KQI3 Black, is sitting in my garage with a broken Valve. We had no problem (I have a friend who puts on wheel chair tires all the time with spoons etc) taking (the prior) tire off, but getting it back on is really meant for professionals. The tires went bad 2 out of 3 scooters. If you haven't had to deal with their warranty, please be aware. I now have a Segway GT2 (Love it - amazing scooter) and ended up, as part of their recent competition, getting a 200.00 discount on the ZT3 Pro. After watching your reviews of the ZT3 Pro, we purchased that so my wife could keep up with the GT2 (in eco mode). Thanks for your amazing reviews, it made the ZT3 Pro, completely worth it. THANK YOU! Keep up the great work!
Nice! Have you seen our review? I put it up against three different hills including the steepest hill in San Francisco. -Paul ruclips.net/video/4rkmqW76ZT8/видео.htmlsi=JGJoE3Ad3ZJPzIrA
Could u release an in-depth video of 11" scooters? 10" is obsolete. Requirements: 1 - index finger throttle 2 - max 2300 usd 3 - tubeless tires 4 - single stem
Interesting subject. It's been a surprise in 2024 to encounter so many 11" tires on scooters which traditionally would have had 10's, like the Teewing GT4, the upcoming Apollo Phantom 2.0, the Segway ZT3 Pro, Gotrax GX3, then we have the oddball 10.5's like the Teewing GT2, Segway P65 and P100! -Paul
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I wish I would have gotten to ride the one at Rider Fest (we did an interview video with the West Coast distributor). The last I heard was that Slack Core took everyone's money and disappeared, but sometimes brands make a comeback. I haven't looked into it lately. -Paul
I'm going to have to retire my Gyroor HR9 purely because the power cable to the motor is too short to be able to replace the worn out tire (the amount of force required to change non split rim needs more than 1 inch of slack). Maybe a video ranking most maintenance friendly scooters? The Inmotion Climber for example claims 10 minute tube changes, while changes on my scooters typically take 60 minutes and extreme effort. Or at least more mention of it in reviews.
Thanks for the suggestion, I rank all scooters we test for reliability, though I don’t always mention the rank in the videos (next week I mention it for the Varla I’m testing now). The reliability score takes ease-of-service into account along with spares availability, IP rating, whether it’s UL listed, battery brand, type of tire, warranty length etc. can you open the deck and unplug the motor from the controller? Most higher end sports scooters have motor cable plugs now near the wheel, but not the smaller scooters. -Paul
Thanks for asking. The more you ask the more likely we are to get one. I don’t know where we are with that since Vosk is the one who finds us all of these scooters. I’ll ask him. -Paul
Got the wolf king GT pro in July got almost 1000 miles on it love that so much sucks winter is basically here. I plan on getting a second one next spring so I have two. I’ve seen some decent looking ones that go 50 mph for $1500. I almost am always in only 3rd gear on the GT so it’s going to be nice and not even feel less powerful.
I’m tracking the package! It arrived early this week and testing begins immediately upon arrival (well, once it’s fully charged anyway). Can’t wait! -Paul
Thanks! I've done a few speed runs, but now I'm waiting to see if I can sort out some stuff with the app before committing to a number for the ESG certified top speed. I'm not hitting 65mph yet, but want to make sure I'm not missing something in the app, and the app is having teething issues right now. :-( -Paul
Hey Paul, I'm about ready to buy my first scooter, but I'm stuck between the EMove Cruiser S V2, and the Wolf Warrior X Plus. I'm looking for something to last and something reliable and fun. Which scooter would you recommend?
Here are Ramier's favorite rides for Big Dawgs. The Inmotion RS is a good choice for taller riders. The ride height and handlebars have a huge adjustment range. -Paul ruclips.net/video/QKz2xZUZbZ8/видео.html
We haven’t tested it yet, so I really don’t know. It’s not on our calendar right now for testing, but the more people ask, the more likely it will end up getting tested! Thanks for watching and commenting! -Paul
Sorry to hear it. It's so strange how different locations have such tough limitations on scooters. Here we're basically unlimited. We're technically not allowed to ride faster than 15mph on scooters, but literally no one seems to care, least of all law enforcement. They have better things to do. -Paul
can you review the solar hyperion there’s no reviews online and i want to purchase it but it would be better to see it reviewed by you guys,please and thank you
We have one, and are testing it, but it got delayed because my phone is having trouble connecting to the app and staying connected. I want to make sure I report the performance correctly, so I want to re-test the top speed once I have full access to the app and can update the firmware. We’ll keep you posted. I really want to get that review done. -Paul
I'm wondering if you guys will review the new model of fighter supreme 7260r they mentioned they fixed the wobble issue and remodeled some other things but they'll mention that in November 17
We've been trying to get our hands on one. I really want to test one. It feels like the Teverun brand just hasn't been picked up by a major distributor in the US, so they've been hard for us to get for testing. We're working on a new source for them. Fingers crossed. It will probably still be a while. -Paul
Was that on the speedo or were you able to check it via gps? I've seen speedometers which were slow and some which were fast, but very few have been super accurate. -Paul
We tested the Dualtron Mini Special Longbody, which I think may be the same scooter. I also cover the Minimotors Dualtron Togo and the Dualtron Popular in that one. Here's the video. -Paul ruclips.net/video/fehqh0I2dqI/видео.htmlsi=tM40D5FOy6Ccmm3m
What about the Teverun Fighter Supreme? Did you guys ever test that scooter? Not the Teverun Fighter supreme 7260R. That one seems to be very dangerous when it comes to speed wobbles.
We’ve been trying to get our hands on a Teverun for years, but it seems like no one carries them in the US. Or no one big enough to have a spare one. I have a lead on where we can get one, but it’s going to take a while. -Paul
I just bought a used 2021 Apollo air pro for 280 usd get an Apollo air they’re faster, similar range, way cheaper, way prettier, way more reliable and have an epic warranty of 10k km
Great Question. Mitchell reviewed that one on our channel and does a nice comparison section at the end with several other scooters. I've linked right to that part of the video, but it's worth watching the whole thing. -Paul ruclips.net/video/18BQGRW2nMY/видео.htmlsi=9eeOD60UrhfqDx0X&t=509
It’s definitely quick enough to deserve to be here. However, we haven’t had a chance to test one, or even ridden one. We only include scooters we’ve reviewed and have data for, though we could have put it in as an honorable mention on speculation , since we have anecdotal evidence that it’s very very quick. -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide they have a upgraded one with Samsung 50s and no one has done a video on it. Supposed to have more range. I am thinking about one because I broke my leg back in may but it was severe I have a video on my channel but long story I have a EUC a ESk8 but I can barely walk right now. I would like to enjoy the outdoors more lol
Oh wow. The one thing I'd be concerned about for you would be how good the suspension is. I don't know how much compression your back can take, but I'd be concerned about the impact of hitting pot-holes sitting down. I raced Kevin from Alienrides at RiderFest 2023. I think I was on the Wolf King GTR and he was on the older version of the Extreme Bull and he smoked me. It's in one of our videos about RiderFest. Good to know about the new cells. Sounds super fun! -Paul
The solar p1 3.0 looks exactly like the ewheels e7 I’ve seen plenty of scooters that looks the same but never knew why they don’t sue or how they’re allowed
I don’t think the design is patentable or trademarkable as long as they sell it under different names. What we’ve found with similar looking scooters is that they are often built to very different specs and supported differently under warranty. -Paul
Thanks for the correction! I was confusing it with the G2. I forgot that the GT2 didn't have it when launched... but I'm truly surprised they haven't added it since then. Either way, it's a mistake on my part. Sometimes I can go back and snip out sections of the review after the fact without ruining the flow. I'll see if I can edit that out. Thanks again. -Paul
I edited it out. I normally won't do that during the first 24 hours because I worry about upsetting the RUclips Algorithm, but I hate spreading bad info even more than I hate a low view count. Check it out. It's gone (though sometimes it takes a while to go into effect). Thanks again. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide you're good, I'm sure having similar names doesn't help. Let alone having to remember which scooter has which features. Either way keep up the videos, you are doing an awesome job. Can't wait for when you get your hands on the new Segway ST1 and ST2 Pro.
Me too. Segway content has really been performing well on our channel, so I've asked the team to keep them coming. I was really surprised how much new stuff there was to cover on the ZT3 Pro. Honestly, the G30 was pretty boring other than the long range and reliability. But the ZT3 Pro just does so much new stuff in the app, I could have made an entire video about just the app. So I can't wait to see what's next from them. They just have so many more engineering dollars than everyone else. -Paul
hey can you please review the isinwheel s9max, s10 pro or s10 plus because i want to get one of these ecpecially the s9max or s10 pro becasue these are the ones that ship to my area
From glancing at those on Amazon window shopping for the last few years, I've had the strong suspicion that isin scooters are in the "unreliable M365 clones" category. I'd suggest springing the extra hundred or two bucks for a reliable brand.
I don’t know about that one. We haven’t tested it. In fact, I haven’t heard of it before. One thing to watch out for is who is selling the scooters. If there isn’t a US based distributor, it can be difficult or impossible to get parts later on. One of the reasons there are certain scooters we never manage to test is because there is no US distributor for those scooters. Thanks so much for watching and for reaching out. -Paul
Thank you so much! We've been wanting to make this for years, but this is the first time we finally did it! If it gets a lot of views, we'll keep trying to do it every year. -Paul
That would be amazing. I can’t think of an objective measurement though. People got upset when I measured stability by “can I ride it hands free” so that’s our! ;-) -Paul
It has a very high top speed for the price, but acceleration isn't exceptionally good or bad, it's right on the trend line. The reason is the larger wheels give it less torque right off the line, so it's as if the EMOVE RoadRunner is starting in a taller gear. -Paul
Please see the review for that scooter. This clip apparently isn't giving what I intended it to give, but hopefully the full review explains it better. Thanks for the call out though. Maybe other people interpret it the same way. -Paul ruclips.net/video/4rkmqW76ZT8/видео.htmlsi=VBFU06uube8IJCib
I know a guy with Nami Burn-E 2, or Ninja as my Brain interprets it. #BEAST #HUGE also... 12:52? What? a built in Fire Extinguisher??? I googled, and found lots of concerns on Reddit. Now I am even more intrigued to see how it actually works, and if it's safe.
We love the Mosquito! If we did acceleration per pound it certainly top speed per pound it would do very well. For raw acceleration at this price the Mosquito’s 5.2 second.zero to 15 time gets beat by the dual motor Gotrax GX Zero aka Gotrax Ares at 4.2 seconds and the Varla Pegasus at 2.6 seconds. -Paul
From what I've heard, they're both made by a third party manufacturer. The interesting thing is that we've seen identical scooters which turned out to be fairly different when we tested them. They can end up having different firmware, different battery cells and different performance, and of course different prices. A good example of that was when we tested the Uscooters GT Sport and the Fluid Mosquito. -Paul
that wouldnt be effective at all. most escooters and ebikes already have the motor acting as a generator while u brake. if u had a generator on the front wheel it would just provide resistance and make the range less than its charging
You'd be putting in more power to power the scooter to move then it would be gaining. A scooter with a front wheel generator would probably go less then half as far as a single scooter rmotor without that generator.
Can u pls check out the ninebot f-se scooter it’s one the best scooters in my opinion can u pls do a review on it and see what u think of it. I am just asking because it’s an underrated scooter pls check it out, honestly I think it beats the Hiboy s2 and most Gotrax’s with its 25 mile range and it’s 20 mph top speed and it’s very low 400 dollar price tag
Thanks for pointing out that some folks may not see the feat of climbing that's being pulled off in that video. That's the steepest hill in San Francisco. The scooter shown is the only scooter at this price ever to make it up that hill in a straight shot. All of the data for this scooter's climbing ability and three demos of hill climbing can be found in this video. Thanks again for watching and for your candid comments. -Paul ruclips.net/video/4rkmqW76ZT8/видео.htmlsi=VBFU06uube8IJCib
I'm always a little nervous about bricking a scooter by hacking it. I am curious though. The US usually gets the fastest version of the firmware anyway, so there's less incentive to get in there. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide trust me, the g2 on shfw is a beast, it can even handle 48v on the stock controller no problem. Even the f2 pro can handle 48v, just give it a try! As long as you don't power off the scooter while flashing it will be fine.
That's amazing. It says a lot about the build quality. I've opened up controllers of scooters that go to over 90V and found 80V capacitors inside! I let them know and hopefully they've fixed it by now! (not Segway scooters!). -Paul
Appreciate the shout out guys! Great video as always 👏🏽
Thanks so much! The Solar siblings seem to make it on all the best performance per dollar lists!
Best Hill climbers is my recent favorite! (both the Solar P1 3.0 and Solar P1 Pro appear there too!). -Paul
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Gooo solar 💪 🔥🔥🔥👍
They're really cool guys too! -Paul
Would love to try out a solar brand and e-move or in-motion brand to put head to head testing vs my RX7 in northern climates.
can you please review the isinwheel s9max or s10 pro becasue i plan on getting one of these
"Know what's even better than having the fastest electric scooter?"
Yeah, durability and consistency over time. (Quality)
True! -Paul
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Try dualtron.
Have you seen this ESG review? That was a fun one. I think the scooter is still here.
-Paul
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You guys are the best reviewers and are the only people to listen to before purchasing a scooter❤
Wow! Thank you so much! I really appreciate your support!
-Paul
Great review guys! At just about 65lbs, the P1 3.0 also folds up crazy small and fits into most trunks easily. Makes it the ultimate travel scooter for something that has that much power and torque.
True. 67.2lbs on my scale. I didn't think I would like riding it seated, but that's actually a lot of fun too. -Paul
I want the Dualtron X Limited. Over 80 miles is crazy. That's what I care about the most when I look at scooters. 210 6 foot. I wish they made off-road tires for it as I'm 25 miles east of Pittsburgh in a rural area.
PA or California? We have a Pittsburgh here too! -Paul
Yeah the Nami Klima is my scooter of choice on the list, it just does everything really well. And great value for money as its a lot cheaper in Australia than it is in America.
Ooh! Didn’t know that about it being less expensive over there. Yeah, it really deserves more attention! -Paul
Love my RoadRunner RX7, it is so fast yet smooth, and just glues to the ground with the PMT tires. The customer service is far above any other brand as well. High quality products with equal high quality customer service!
The guys that run RoadRunner are super passionate about what they're doing! -Paul
Exactly what users want. Fantastic video Cheers!
Wow! Thank you so much! I appreciate your support!
Best of luck with your channel!
-Paul
Well done Paul!!👏👏
Very good video!!
Thank you so much! I appreciate your support! -Paul
Awesome video as usual.
It would be really cool to see you guys check out the Yume Raptor and Predator. I feel like the Raptor could be breaking some of the price records, because it seems damn fast for its price.
Thank you so much! It really would be good to test some Yume scooters. We never have. -Paul
Pretty sure the yume hawk pro wide is a better scooter than the raptor imo. Tires and acceleration wise.
Just a suggestion, But a more accurate comparison would be acceleration versus wattage voltage ect
The price of a scooter has nothing to do with performance and should not be part of a performance review
Anyways, regardless, still another cool video, friends ✌️
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I have a Segway GT2 Megatron# 324
still running stock 52v battery and performance numbers are different compared to your testing
Our SGT2 easily hits 48 MPH on level ground, 55mph+ going downhill,
0-30@3.72+/-.3
military GPS confirmed(we live on Fort Drum)
Thanks for the feedback. The comments I get most are things like “what’s the fastest scooter I can get for $xxx” or what’s the longest range scooter for $xxx. We always want to answer the most asked questions. But I appreciate your perspective and will think about what that approach would look like.
The problem I come across with with motor wattage is that it’s the least accurate spec. So it’s almost like plotting acceleration vs scooter color. I’m joking of course, but I’ve seen “500W - nominal” scooters just blow away “1,000W nominal” scooters.
Almost all of my metrics are ranked vs price because it’s revealing of performance per dollar. I do a few charts which are range vs weight and top speed vs weight since some folks want range or speed but they can’t lift a super heavy scooter.
I love scooter data. Even when I don’t put graphs in the videos, I’m looking at 10 or 15 graphs every time I do a review so I have an idea in my head where each one stacks up.
It would be an interesting (and easy) video to make, to compare spec wattage to acceleration, since I have all of these numbers already for 180-something scooters. I would feel like I was calling out some of the scooters if I did that, because I think much of the time even the brands don’t know how much power the scooter makes.
Some day I’ll get a scooter dyno, but even then I don’t think I could figure out a way to dyno front and rear motors at the same time, since the wheelbases are all different and the scooter would be trying to fall over the whole time because I wouldn’t be able to clamp the front end in place as you can with single motor scooters. When I raced motorcycles I dyno tuned my race bike myself a couple times a year. My race sponsor would loan me dyno time and I’d run it myself :-)
All of our top speed numbers are tested on flat ground and are the average of the top speeds during two opposite direction runs. This cancels out small headwinds or tailwinds as well as small inclines.
-Paul
Great video, but what testing equipment was used to verify speeds? Racebox GPS or similar?
Thanks for asking. We use a Vbox Sport. It’s GPS based, but uses accelerometers to interpolate 19 data points between GPS pulses, so you get data at 20Hz.
For top speed I take two opposite direction runs and then pick 2 to 3 seconds of sustained top speed in each direction and take the average during that few seconds to eliminate spurious peaks and valleys. Then average the two opposite direction numbers together.
The 0 to 30 numbers etc are also two-direction averages, but here based on single data points in each direction of course.
-Paul
Nice video. Really happy to watch a video about acceleration which the most important spec for me. However, why not compare the ninebot g2 max which is probably the most sold out scooter in the word at the moment ??
I tend to use the Ninebot Max G2 a lot as a reference point in our videos, but didn't think to quote its 0 to 15 time in this one since it's not one of the best for acceleration vs price. It's a lot quicker to 15 than the original Max though. The Max was 6.4 seconds from 0 to 15 and the Ninebot MAX G2 is only 4.2 seconds from 0 to 15. I could have just stuck it in the middle of the graph at the beginning as a reference point.
I'm glad to hear someone asking for it to be used even more as a reference point than I've been using it, because sometimes I feel like we refer to it too much. I love benchmarks!
-Paul
Big Paul!! We need some incredible drag races between the fastest scooters and e bikes!! it's getting crazy out there - the new e-ride pro SS 3.0, SR, surron ultrabe, talaria mx5, and altis sigma VS.........the wolf king gtr, e move roadster, teewing, etc!!! We're all dying to see them line up!!!! I'm debating on getting an emove roadster or eride pro SR for next spring!! LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Incredible video! As always! 👏
NAMI better starts sending you the NAMI Blast Max so you can review it comprehensively! I'm saving for it 😊
Thank you so much! I really want to review the Blast Max. It’s been way way too long since we’ve done a NAMI review. -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide It's not just a regular scooter, Paul! It has the only Reverse-C suspension on a scooter!?
I think it may be. I wonder how that will feel. It should soak up the bumps better, but I expect it will dive when braking because of the direction of the braking forces. Michael Sha is a scooter genius! I also love that he rides his own scooters so much and is so in touch with riders directly. -Paul
Love the channel guys keep up the great work. Where can a person find a list of all the scooters y'all have tested? If y'all don't have one yet can we please get one
Thank you so much. I really should have mentioned that! The electric scooter guide website (all one word) has most of them in the ridefinder. -Paul
You should test the Teewing z4 pro paul, I'm very curious how that one turns out with its battery size and it's spec.
The specs look really interesting! Big removable battery. Huge 13" tires, dual rear shocks. Lots of cool stuff. I hope I get a chance to test it at some point. -Paul
Yeah, I’ve been talking to my dad about getting a dualTron storm but my dad said No. so you’re the best😊
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
FYI the Storm does 0 to 30 mph in 4.9 seconds and the Storm Limited in 4.2 seconds!
-Paul
I think you were reading my mind, I was just wondering this last week.
Awesome! We've been wanting to cover this subject for years but never have all on its own. -Paul
I'm challenging all scooter manufacturers to make PMTs standard out of the box stock on their higher end scooters. Quality soft rubber will only improve acceleration times and overall ride quality but many will never experience this because of bad stock tires.
That would be amazing! So far the RoadRunner RX7 is the only scooter we've tested that comes with them and wow, the difference in ride quality is noticeable! -Paul
My hover 1 renegade gers me 0 to 20 in 1.5 sec and price is 400 to 500 dual motors and suspension etc
I keep hoping Hover-1 will send us one, but I feel like they have some other newer models which are more likely to come our way. Thanks for the data point. -Paul
You mentioned NIU having a 2 year warranty. I've owned 3 KQI 3's, Two Blacks and one the step below that. They do not honor their Warranty very well. Their tires frequently go flat on pavement only driving. The cost to ship to NIU is on the consumer. If you don't save the box, (I did for all 3) you have to purchase something to ship it safely and cover the cost. Considering the KQI3 Black was purchased for 800.00, shipping of 150.00 to have the tire repaired (which we tried to repair ourselves and could not find a local dealer to do - it was impossible for us) is a huge cost. Lastly, after a negative review of their poor customer service on Amazon, they offered a full refund - then reneged on their offer and Amazon decided to offer a partial refund upon return. So 1 scooter was returned due to the faulty tires. The second KQI3 Black, is sitting in my garage with a broken Valve. We had no problem (I have a friend who puts on wheel chair tires all the time with spoons etc) taking (the prior) tire off, but getting it back on is really meant for professionals. The tires went bad 2 out of 3 scooters. If you haven't had to deal with their warranty, please be aware.
I now have a Segway GT2 (Love it - amazing scooter) and ended up, as part of their recent competition, getting a 200.00 discount on the ZT3 Pro. After watching your reviews of the ZT3 Pro, we purchased that so my wife could keep up with the GT2 (in eco mode). Thanks for your amazing reviews, it made the ZT3 Pro, completely worth it. THANK YOU! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the feedback!
Inmotion Climber is amazing!!! I've had one for a few months and its awesome
Nice! Have you seen our review? I put it up against three different hills including the steepest hill in San Francisco. -Paul
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Brillant vidéo as usual from you.
Wow! Thank you so much! I love heavy data videos! -Paul
Could u release an in-depth video of 11" scooters? 10" is obsolete.
Requirements:
1 - index finger throttle
2 - max 2300 usd
3 - tubeless tires
4 - single stem
Interesting subject. It's been a surprise in 2024 to encounter so many 11" tires on scooters which traditionally would have had 10's, like the Teewing GT4, the upcoming Apollo Phantom 2.0, the Segway ZT3 Pro, Gotrax GX3, then we have the oddball 10.5's like the Teewing GT2, Segway P65 and P100! -Paul
Can’t wait to see you testing slack core 92r one day 😍
Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
I wish I would have gotten to ride the one at Rider Fest (we did an interview video with the West Coast distributor). The last I heard was that Slack Core took everyone's money and disappeared, but sometimes brands make a comeback. I haven't looked into it lately. -Paul
I'm going to have to retire my Gyroor HR9 purely because the power cable to the motor is too short to be able to replace the worn out tire (the amount of force required to change non split rim needs more than 1 inch of slack). Maybe a video ranking most maintenance friendly scooters? The Inmotion Climber for example claims 10 minute tube changes, while changes on my scooters typically take 60 minutes and extreme effort. Or at least more mention of it in reviews.
Thanks for the suggestion, I rank all scooters we test for reliability, though I don’t always mention the rank in the videos (next week I mention it for the Varla I’m testing now). The reliability score takes ease-of-service into account along with spares availability, IP rating, whether it’s UL listed, battery brand, type of tire, warranty length etc.
can you open the deck and unplug the motor from the controller? Most higher end sports scooters have motor cable plugs now near the wheel, but not the smaller scooters. -Paul
still waiting on the ausom gallop to make an appearance😋
Thanks for asking. The more you ask the more likely we are to get one. I don’t know where we are with that since Vosk is the one who finds us all of these scooters. I’ll ask him. -Paul
The VMAX VX2 Extreme and the VX4 are both excellent scooters that can reach 0 - 15 mph in 3.2 seconds. 🥂
Great scooters. Super high quality and the ride quality of the VX4 is amazing, the VX2 GT is t bad either at 3.7s from 0 to 15
-Paul
Got the wolf king GT pro in July got almost 1000 miles on it love that so much sucks winter is basically here. I plan on getting a second one next spring so I have two. I’ve seen some decent looking ones that go 50 mph for $1500. I almost am always in only 3rd gear on the GT so it’s going to be nice and not even feel less powerful.
Great scooter. I think I like it better than the GTR for most purposes. -Paul
Great review 👏 ❤it
Thank you so much! We really appreciate your support. -Paul
Will you guys be showcasing the new Solar Hyperion?
I’m tracking the package! It arrived early this week and testing begins immediately upon arrival (well, once it’s fully charged anyway).
Can’t wait! -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks paul, please ride safe
Thanks! I've done a few speed runs, but now I'm waiting to see if I can sort out some stuff with the app before committing to a number for the ESG certified top speed. I'm not hitting 65mph yet, but want to make sure I'm not missing something in the app, and the app is having teething issues right now. :-( -Paul
Ausom scooter video soon ?? 🤔
Thanks for the suggestion. Not any time soon as far as I know. Thanks for the suggestion. -Paul
Hey Paul, I'm about ready to buy my first scooter, but I'm stuck between the EMove Cruiser S V2, and the Wolf Warrior X Plus. I'm looking for something to last and something reliable and fun. Which scooter would you recommend?
We love the cruiser! Use code RIDERGUIDE for max discount.
Which ones are best for taller riders? Like 6'4"?
Here are Ramier's favorite rides for Big Dawgs. The Inmotion RS is a good choice for taller riders. The ride height and handlebars have a huge adjustment range.
-Paul
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@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you I will check it out!
What’s your opinion on the ausom gallop/leopard?
We haven’t tested it yet, so I really don’t know. It’s not on our calendar right now for testing, but the more people ask, the more likely it will end up getting tested! Thanks for watching and commenting! -Paul
Teewing XTR also has Cruise Control for those interested.
I see an esg upload I click ❤
Same
Thank you both so much! We try to do it every Saturday morning! -Paul
Love all of them, from the new ninebot z3, but we can only ride 20 km/h in Germany 😭😭😭
Sorry to hear it. It's so strange how different locations have such tough limitations on scooters. Here we're basically unlimited. We're technically not allowed to ride faster than 15mph on scooters, but literally no one seems to care, least of all law enforcement. They have better things to do. -Paul
can you review the solar hyperion there’s no reviews online and i want to purchase it but it would be better to see it reviewed by you guys,please and thank you
We have one, and are testing it, but it got delayed because my phone is having trouble connecting to the app and staying connected. I want to make sure I report the performance correctly, so I want to re-test the top speed once I have full access to the app and can update the firmware. We’ll keep you posted. I really want to get that review done. -Paul
@ thank you very much for the reply and i cant wait for you to review it im looking forward to it!
I'm wondering if you guys will review the new model of fighter supreme 7260r they mentioned they fixed the wobble issue and remodeled some other things but they'll mention that in November 17
We've been trying to get our hands on one. I really want to test one. It feels like the Teverun brand just hasn't been picked up by a major distributor in the US, so they've been hard for us to get for testing. We're working on a new source for them. Fingers crossed. It will probably still be a while. -Paul
how about InMotion RS? is there anyway you can add that scooter on this review? thanks
Thanks for asking. We mention it at the end of the video and link to a review of the RS Lite vs RS at the very end. -Paul
You should review the f15 foholo by arich right at 1099 dollars daul motors 60 v and has 12 inch wheels ❤😮
Thanks for the suggestion! I had a look at their site.
- Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide okay cool yeah I have one and wow very impressive by far I hit 47 mph best bang for buck and customer service is A1
Was that on the speedo or were you able to check it via gps? I've seen speedometers which were slow and some which were fast, but very few have been super accurate. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide GPS phone app
The emove roadster is really a beast ! When will you test the dualtron Aminia ?
We tested the Dualtron Mini Special Longbody, which I think may be the same scooter. I also cover the Minimotors Dualtron Togo and the Dualtron Popular in that one.
Here's the video. -Paul
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@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks ☺️
You're welcome! So glad you asked! I need to go add that keyword to the video to help people find it! -Paul
These measures are cool but I would prefer timing for a 30 meter dash as the measure of acceleration
Thanks for the feedback. -Paul
didnt see the MUKUTA line of scooters offered by LithiumMoto in the testing ... why not ?
We've never tested a Mukuta scooter. Thanks for the suggestion. The more folks ask, the more likely we'll test one. -Paul
You should review the Nanrobot N6 72v scooter, it looks pretty cool.
No plans currently
Im surprised that the RX7 is not on that list.
It’s mentioned at the end. -Paul
What about the Teverun Fighter Supreme? Did you guys ever test that scooter? Not the Teverun Fighter supreme 7260R. That one seems to be very dangerous when it comes to speed wobbles.
We’ve been trying to get our hands on a Teverun for years, but it seems like no one carries them in the US. Or no one big enough to have a spare one. I have a lead on where we can get one, but it’s going to take a while.
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I would of let you hold mine but I’m on the east coast in NYC. But understandable. It is a beast of a scooter too.
Thanks for the thought! -Paul
Have you heard of the New Gotrax Sentinel ?? Nice machine.
Not yet
Hey ESG, just thinking of buying a Ninebot F2 pro and looking for a e scooter that can match or even beat it. Any recommendations?
I just bought a used 2021 Apollo air pro for 280 usd get an Apollo air they’re faster, similar range, way cheaper, way prettier, way more reliable and have an epic warranty of 10k km
I was gonna get the g2 max but the Apollo is better it’s also faster in settings it can get up to 28mph
Great Question.
Mitchell reviewed that one on our channel and does a nice comparison section at the end with several other scooters.
I've linked right to that part of the video, but it's worth watching the whole thing.
-Paul
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How is the Extreme Bull K6 not on this list?
It’s definitely quick enough to deserve to be here. However, we haven’t had a chance to test one, or even ridden one. We only include scooters we’ve reviewed and have data for, though we could have put it in as an honorable mention on speculation , since we have anecdotal evidence that it’s very very quick. -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide they have a upgraded one with Samsung 50s and no one has done a video on it. Supposed to have more range. I am thinking about one because I broke my leg back in may but it was severe I have a video on my channel but long story I have a EUC a ESk8 but I can barely walk right now. I would like to enjoy the outdoors more lol
Oh wow. The one thing I'd be concerned about for you would be how good the suspension is. I don't know how much compression your back can take, but I'd be concerned about the impact of hitting pot-holes sitting down.
I raced Kevin from Alienrides at RiderFest 2023. I think I was on the Wolf King GTR and he was on the older version of the Extreme Bull and he smoked me. It's in one of our videos about RiderFest. Good to know about the new cells. Sounds super fun! -Paul
I have a Segway GT2. I weigh 138 lbs. It pulls like a mule. I get a lot of comments at stop lights.
Nice! Does it have a #46 on the side? :-)
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I should do that. Good idea. He is the GOAT after all.
Absolutely! Such an entertainer too! He was at his peak back when I was racing motorcycles! -Paul
The solar p1 3.0 looks exactly like the ewheels e7 I’ve seen plenty of scooters that looks the same but never knew why they don’t sue or how they’re allowed
I don’t think the design is patentable or trademarkable as long as they sell it under different names. What we’ve found with similar looking scooters is that they are often built to very different specs and supported differently under warranty. -Paul
still loving my kelly controller bronco =)
Nice! Rare scooter! -Paul
Unfortunately Segway GT2 doesn't have apple find but the newer Segway scooter seem to have it built in 11:44
Thanks for the correction! I was confusing it with the G2. I forgot that the GT2 didn't have it when launched... but I'm truly surprised they haven't added it since then. Either way, it's a mistake on my part. Sometimes I can go back and snip out sections of the review after the fact without ruining the flow. I'll see if I can edit that out. Thanks again. -Paul
I edited it out. I normally won't do that during the first 24 hours because I worry about upsetting the RUclips Algorithm, but I hate spreading bad info even more than I hate a low view count. Check it out. It's gone (though sometimes it takes a while to go into effect). Thanks again. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide you're good, I'm sure having similar names doesn't help. Let alone having to remember which scooter has which features. Either way keep up the videos, you are doing an awesome job. Can't wait for when you get your hands on the new Segway ST1 and ST2 Pro.
Me too. Segway content has really been performing well on our channel, so I've asked the team to keep them coming. I was really surprised how much new stuff there was to cover on the ZT3 Pro. Honestly, the G30 was pretty boring other than the long range and reliability. But the ZT3 Pro just does so much new stuff in the app, I could have made an entire video about just the app. So I can't wait to see what's next from them. They just have so many more engineering dollars than everyone else. -Paul
Any word on the other company for the teverun Fighter Supreme Ultra?
Still early days. It's a major distributor though. It won't be soon, unfortunately. -Paul
Wish yall would do more varla scooters
Coming soon!
no inmotion rs?
It’s mentioned at the very end -Paul
hey can you please review the isinwheel s9max, s10 pro or s10 plus because i want to get one of these ecpecially the s9max or s10 pro becasue these are the ones that ship to my area
Thanks so much for the suggestion. We don’t have that one on our list, but it definitely helps get it there when you ask! -Paul
From glancing at those on Amazon window shopping for the last few years, I've had the strong suspicion that isin scooters are in the "unreliable M365 clones" category. I'd suggest springing the extra hundred or two bucks for a reliable brand.
Great feedback! -Paul
Any info on this scooter?can or will you test this scooter? Mad Max Pro S 72V 50AH $4995
I don’t know about that one. We haven’t tested it. In fact, I haven’t heard of it before. One thing to watch out for is who is selling the scooters. If there isn’t a US based distributor, it can be difficult or impossible to get parts later on. One of the reasons there are certain scooters we never manage to test is because there is no US distributor for those scooters. Thanks so much for watching and for reaching out. -Paul
Just race the Segway GT2, I Smoke 💨 it with my tif Galop K8
No teewing in uk 😢
Sorry to hear it. Hopefully they'll start distributing in the UK soon, but I haven't heard anything saying they will or won't. -Paul
I bought a zondoo 6000w scooter off Amazon it has a quick 0 to 60 in 5 seconds
Nice
I was hoping you'd make this vid
Thank you so much! We've been wanting to make this for years, but this is the first time we finally did it! If it gets a lot of views, we'll keep trying to do it every year. -Paul
I really want the Teewing Gt2
You need a handling metric.
That would be amazing. I can’t think of an objective measurement though. People got upset when I measured stability by “can I ride it hands free” so that’s our! ;-)
-Paul
Test Punk Rider Pro please
Thanks for the suggestion. And thanks for watching and commenting. -Paul
What abt emove roadrunner pro?
It has a very high top speed for the price, but acceleration isn't exceptionally good or bad, it's right on the trend line. The reason is the larger wheels give it less torque right off the line, so it's as if the EMOVE RoadRunner is starting in a taller gear. -Paul
3:01 amazing at hill climbing? You don’t gotta lie…
Please see the review for that scooter. This clip apparently isn't giving what I intended it to give, but hopefully the full review explains it better. Thanks for the call out though. Maybe other people interpret it the same way.
-Paul
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I know a guy with Nami Burn-E 2, or Ninja as my Brain interprets it. #BEAST #HUGE
also... 12:52? What? a built in Fire Extinguisher???
I googled, and found lots of concerns on Reddit.
Now I am even more intrigued to see how it actually works, and if it's safe.
Interesting. What sorts of concerns? I haven't heard any. It's got good cells and feels well made. -Paul
That's the same gotrax scooter that I had before it gotten stolen. 1:51
Bummer. You wouldn't happen to live in the SF Bay Area would you? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide It happened in Orlando, Florida.
Don't worry. I got another one.
Glad you got another one! -Paul
Anything around 4 seconds 0-30 is plenty!
True! 4 second 0 to 30 times are arm yanking fun! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide like the new phantom 2.0 stellar! Hahaha can't wait for that!
Yes!
No fluid mosquito?
We love the Mosquito! If we did acceleration per pound it certainly top speed per pound it would do very well. For raw acceleration at this price the Mosquito’s 5.2 second.zero to 15 time gets beat by the dual motor Gotrax GX Zero aka Gotrax Ares at 4.2 seconds and the Varla Pegasus at 2.6 seconds.
-Paul
The teewing gt4 is just a rebadged kukirin g4
From what I've heard, they're both made by a third party manufacturer. The interesting thing is that we've seen identical scooters which turned out to be fairly different when we tested them. They can end up having different firmware, different battery cells and different performance, and of course different prices. A good example of that was when we tested the Uscooters GT Sport and the Fluid Mosquito. -Paul
Gotrex Super❤🚀🙏🏽
I want an electric scooter single motor... But I want the front wheel to charge the battery while riding it 🙃
that wouldnt be effective at all. most escooters and ebikes already have the motor acting as a generator while u brake. if u had a generator on the front wheel it would just provide resistance and make the range less than its charging
You'd be putting in more power to power the scooter to move then it would be gaining. A scooter with a front wheel generator would probably go less then half as far as a single scooter rmotor without that generator.
@@giovannispagnoli8040 phuque
@@giovannispagnoli8040 oh come on there's got to be a way ... Maybe two batteries
@@thatway7616 look up a perpetual motion machine. It's not possible.
Where is teverun supreme 😢
We’ve never been able to get our hands on one to test. Still trying. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i have blade gt2 from 0 to 60 km/h it's like 7.2 sec but it's only 60v, supreme goin under 3.5 sec with me 90 kg.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide gl anyway coz it's great scooter imo one of the best in 2024.
Thanks for the details! I really hope we can get our hands on one! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i Hope too:) have a great day
My apollo city pro 2022 does 0 - 30 in 5 seconds. And my top speed is 55km/h.
Apollo on top
What's your favorite Apollo scooter?
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the phantom 1.0 I have a 2021 air pro which I love honestly I like it as much as the phantom
Nice!
0-15 in 6.8 seconds lol
Quickest at that price! Gotta start somewhere! Keep watching, they get a lot faster! -Paul
K6 Extreme Bull
We need to test one of those. Kevin from Alienrides absolutely smoked me on one of those art Rider Fest 2023. I was on the Wolf King GTR. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide The only electric ride I've seen that can beat it is my Tesla. 😂
Daaaaang! Do. you know what the battery voltage and peak amps of the controllers are? It's insane how quick it is. -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 134v but I'm not sure about the peak amps.
Crazy! That's so much higher than any scooter we've tested! -Paul
Can u pls check out the ninebot f-se scooter it’s one the best scooters in my opinion can u pls do a review on it and see what u think of it. I am just asking because it’s an underrated scooter pls check it out, honestly I think it beats the Hiboy s2 and most Gotrax’s with its 25 mile range and it’s 20 mph top speed and it’s very low 400 dollar price tag
Thank you so much for the suggestion! Segway Ninebot has so many models it's really hard to keep track! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide tysm!
3:42 again with the clip of you struggling to make it up that hill… maybe don’t choose those specific clips 😂
Thanks for pointing out that some folks may not see the feat of climbing that's being pulled off in that video.
That's the steepest hill in San Francisco. The scooter shown is the only scooter at this price ever to make it up that hill in a straight shot.
All of the data for this scooter's climbing ability and three demos of hill climbing can be found in this video.
Thanks again for watching and for your candid comments. -Paul
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They have a RUclips channel Will Mason electric scooter USA
Thanks for watching and commenting. -Paul
NICE
Teddy! Good to see you! Thanks for always being there for us! -Paul
Under 2000 dollars is Halo Knight 108 Pro probably the best scooter you'll use
Thank you so much for the suggestion, we haven’t tried that one. -Paul
crazt
So fun!
Early gang fr
Thanks for watching and commenting! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide love your videos though! Btw you should mod the ninebot g2 with shfw and see how it is
I'm always a little nervous about bricking a scooter by hacking it. I am curious though. The US usually gets the fastest version of the firmware anyway, so there's less incentive to get in there. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide trust me, the g2 on shfw is a beast, it can even handle 48v on the stock controller no problem. Even the f2 pro can handle 48v, just give it a try! As long as you don't power off the scooter while flashing it will be fine.
That's amazing. It says a lot about the build quality. I've opened up controllers of scooters that go to over 90V and found 80V capacitors inside! I let them know and hopefully they've fixed it by now! (not Segway scooters!). -Paul