*This battery reconditioning program exceeded my presumptions. It worked on any drill battery, several AA and AAA batteries, **batery.repair** and any camera battery. The steps are simple and the act itself is exciting to do. No matter what type of battery you`ve got, it is sure to function again!*
Making use of the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxcJ22tnHH9l1vjdIdEIG27iOG55P7LXI8 reconditioning plan, I just saved 2 auto batteries from being completely junked. The guides were very simple to follow. I wish I would have found this years ago! You may use the guide to recondition any battery type
Anyone watching this should note that the battery pack he removed from the UPS has two 12v batteries hooked up in PARALLEL This results in a 12V battery with twice the power of a single battery. This means using a single car battery would work just fine. However, if they were connected in SERIES, it would result in a 24V battery would probably means one would need two car batteries hooked up series to work in this UPS. (BTW, my UPS' battery just died and it is hooked up in series, so, sucks to be me).
Very good observation. I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my 1500VA, 900W UPS and it's got two 12V batteries hooked up in series, so I had to get two lead-acid car batteries.
Thank you! I used this video to save a dead car battery which wouldn't charge because the voltage was below 9V. Using this video, I charged on the UPS a couple of seconds then connected the car battery charger and now it detected it and has started to charge it. So thank you again for taking the time to make this. Cheers!
The smaller UPS units like this are often not designed for such a large battery. If you drain the battery to any depth regularly, you could easily overwork the charger and that could cause premature damage to the UPS and potentially overheating. As @Old Fhart mentioned, a deep cycle marine battery would be a much better choice than a car battery due to it's discharge characteristics.
Sweet. I have an old sealed deep cycle marine battery that was in its golden years of its life. Found a 600w ups today that was missing its battery today at goodwill for 4 dollars. Replacement tiny battery was 30 bucks. The one I have is already-paid-for bucks. No heavy computer usage. Just using it to keep a security camera system alive during occasional power outages. Thanks for the vinidication that its not a terrible idea.
I don't know why everyone is complaining. Just be sure to oversize your UPS for what you're doing, when in doubt go bigger (if you have a 500w applciation get a 1000w UPS) The transformers in 1000w + UPS are huge. Put a fan on it and you're good to go.
Good comment. Some commenters here seem to expect the OP to provide a risk assessment plus a 12 month guarantee for a simple RUclips hack... delusional!
Hey Guys. I just wanted to tell you it still working in my house since 2 years, the full charging time is about 2 days. It will be good for you if the electricity go down one or 2 days per week. But in all cases you should use a good brand ups with a good cooling system inside it. I will make a video to show you how it works in my house.
No matter how good the UPS brand is, it is designed to to charge the battery for about 4-5Hrs max. if use it to charge for 2days, it will definitely gonna heat your ups circuitry.
@@marmikpatel5593 And it is still heating his ups circuitry for 2 years and yet it is still working. I am okay if it works 2 years and gets broken, I will buy another ups after that lol.
I won't advise that upgrade if ac power in your home gets cut off frequently, it means the battery would be putting out charge faster than it gets in. That is because the built-in charger is not meant for higher capacity than what it's rated for. If the battery keeps getting discharged most of the time, and not being able to get charged at maximum or bulk charge at least once a week, the battery will get sulfated.
Use golf cart batteries. Two 6 volt, 210AH batteries in series for 12 volts will run that inverter for a couple of days (1260 watt hours to 50% discharge, even more to 80% discharge).
Don't use a car battery, it is not designed for extended time moderate load (drain). Use a deep cycle Marine battery. They are designed for a long time discharge like an electric boat motor. It will give you much better service. They are more expensive but may operate a 1500VA UPS for 24 Hrs.
I just need something like a battery I don't need to replace 3-9 months because it's off-the-shelf... Car battery would be fine. If you where running an OLD TUBE Radio. Then yes. Cranking Amperage is what really matters.
and dont expect the trickle charger inside the ups being able to recharge a deep cycle Marine battery. You will have to recharge with a standard charger. Many people dont understand the concept of power which is the amount of energy over time so if you dont exceed the capacity of the UPS in watts, you will be OK, you will just increase the amount of time you will be able to use the UPS with a deep cycle battery. But you have to take responsibility to recharge it by any other mean.
Give a shot with LifePo4 battery too, light, very long life, safe. Much more powerful than any deep cycle marine battery. I got my boat using with a LifePo4 car battery to start up my outboard (115HP) and trim up and down all the time, huge change for cold starting.
You must use a golf cart battery. Car batteries are sprint runners good for a quick short hard push of current. Golf cart batteries are marathon runners, good for a long time push of current. You cannot run a car battery down below 80% multiple times, it ruins them. Golf cart bats can be drained down much further without ruining them.
My understanding is that a traditional car battery is not a good candidate for a backup system, as they cannot handle being drained more than 5 times or so until they fail. A deep cycle battery is required, preferably AGM or better.
What is the best UPS for the price that I can get and use a Car battery in it ? I would like to get about 1 hour of work time till the battery goes low.
The traditional lead-acid car batteries like the one shown here emit toxic gasses as they charge and should not be kept inside. These gasses can also start a fire / explode if in contact with a spark or flame. If you really need this, buy a car battery that doesn't off-gas, like an AGM battery. Also, a deep cycle AGM marine battery would be best suited for this application.
Giving it high amperage will make it off-gas, the 700mA (0.7A) is like having a trickle charger on the battery, plus float charging is required to prevent sulphating. When drained deeply, I use my 8A DuraLast charger then let the APC finish it.
@@katkatthecat Be it as it may, he used the wrong type of battery. Anything kept indoors requires a SEALED battery, like an AGM type. This is why every UPS has a sealed battery inside of it right from the factory. Mistakes and defects happen and they can sometimes be fatal, so why take a chance just to save $30?
But you don't need that thick of wires to connect to the battery. This inverter is not going to pull a lot of Amps. One cable is enough no matter what big a battery you are going to hook up to this. Believe me.
You have taken out two 12 V batteries which were in series making it 24 V, the car battery you have added is also of 24 V? or no matter you can provide 12 V or 24 V ?
I have a UPS that gives DC 12V, 1.2A to it's UPS battery. How do I make it DC 12V 3A,so that I can charge my 35Ah car-battery with it? Is there any circuit that I can add to the "wires that were going into the UPS battery", and achieve my objective(12V, 3A)? I don't want to separate the transformer from UPS circuit, since doing that will spoil the UPS. After charging the car-battery, I plan to remove this additional circuit and put the UPS back to it's original use (12V, 1.2A).
Ok, big battery is added and it will work. But how long that 7AH circute board/ of UPS will take to Recharge car battery like 80AH, 100AH, 150AH ? 10 days or 15 ?
I guess..... now one more idea can be implemented I have 2 useless UPS sets of 600VA I guess we can use both of them for charging of single set of battery but only one for consumption. So it will reduce charging time. So while charging we need to put on both of them for parallel charging.
Buy a UPS which has an "Anderson" connector at rear for external battery. I have 1000watt APC external run unit with two 12 volt 120amp hour deep discharge batteries connected in series for 24 volt input. runs everything!
Why bother with UPS with internal battery when there were UPSs with external connection in 2016? I bought a Luxeon 12v UPS with sinus and connected a car battery. All went good till 2019 when my 60Ah Energizer battery lost 50-70% of it's capacity... So car battery is not a good option. Now I'm looking for other battery types, which is able to work with such UPS and remain their capacity longer. LiOn is not an option since it has wrong high charge level (4.2*3 is much lower then UPS will try to charge SLA battery - 13.6v).
Hey, I'm not going to judge a proper video. THANK YOU FOR THE CONTENT! I don't understand the dislikes. Quick Good & Fast are rare combinations. This a 3/3 Engineering Standards met. Please forgive me for asking, How healthy are the Capacitors? and the Internals. My NORMAL UPS battery dies every 4.5 to 5.8 months.. I wonder is it the batteries? OR is it the internals of my UPS... Do I need additional filters on my main. It's like I can hear the A/C unit trying to kill my UPS. Bad house wiring I know... But how long do the internals of the UPS last. BTW Be careful those Capacitors hold VERY powerful charges. Be nice to place those capacitors with quick charge/discharge like Lithium Ion but that is Another battery cost... Video One English. What is your opinion?
Here in India, most UPS have poor quality batteries, so they won't last long and will give poor back up. Batteries in UPS, deteriorate at a high speed, once they start Being used. This is a trade secret. Same is true for mobile phone batteries.
I think this arrangement is good. Well done, except perhaps that you didn't solder too there in the beginning. I would have done that. But still, thumbs up from me 👍
I used to set this one for a year. Works great but not for long time and dont forget to close ups when you go out. If you have a blackout it will burn your house.
I had purchased 26AH battery and it isn't supporting for my hcl and mercury computer ups.. what I've to do? it is showing caution symbol. and the battery is fine. checked with the same other battery too
Those grey cables are thicker than the one you took off from the ups battery. Should i use the same gauge cable or its ok to connect them on thicker ones?
Shucks- Ijust use a couple of old coat hangers. OK, they glow red sometimes, but that helps me keep warm here. And I can roast a hot dog on it also! It's a WIN-WIN!
great tutorial, i followed it today, but i hit a big wall unfortunately because i found that my UPS has its two batteries connected in series not in parallel like in ur UPS so the car battery i bought today(12v) didnt power my UPS which needs 24v, im thinking about getting a dc-dc boost converter which can increase the voltage from 12 to 24v, what do u think about that? do u have any other solution idea ? thank you
have fun with all that hydrogen gas ... one spark, and BOOOM goes your computer room ... 4% is the magic ignition number... have fun, stay safe. Oh, and yeah, SOLDER yo shit !
my ups shuts itself off after 30 minutes no matter how big my battery capacity is. guess its better to get a ups that has factory external battery support
Rather than fucking up the unit (At that point may as well cut off the plastic housing for the battery), I just got a couple pieces of mains wiring, black and brown, stripped twisted and tinned 1 cm on one end, which goes into one side of the spade plugs, holding on by friction, and the other end striped a bit more and wrapped in a ring around the battery terminals, tinned also at the point the ring closes to avoid it unwrapping.
As long as you use sturdy molybdenum-steel coat-hangers and some chewing gum, it should work. Don't be alarmed if the coat-hangers start to glow red. This is always normal for neophytes. It is just part of the learning curve.
Hey - Why don't you run your motorcycle on the UPS? All you need is a very long extension cord! Just make sure it doesn't accidentally wrap around your neck - or you will end up like Isadora Duncan.
Artiphilia it is working fine in my house and in my office... Be sure that the UPS has a good cooling system and try to test if it is becoming hot or not... My UPS doesn't go hot. And I put it outside the house not inside. It is working fine with me for about three years now.
I have connected a 40ah car battery to my 600va UPS. The battery is fully charged. But I am not getting any extended backup time. The UPS turned off within a minute. What may be the possible cause? Please provide the solution for it. Thanks in advance.
Video One English The battery is new. I even charged it for around 40hrs. What I have noticed is when the UPS turns off. I again make it on and it once again runs for a minute and goes off. This means the battery is not drained. Anything else I can do?
komputer saya ada 16 pcberikut monitor, speaker aktif, lampu, ada kulkas, dispenser, mesin air dan kipas 6 unit, klu pakai ups harus yang berapa? aki berapa ampare, dan bertahan berapa menit, mohon penjelasannya..
you look like one that knows what he's doing :D I have a 1500va UPS recently it has been shutting down as soon as the Power go off if i had load (Like games) opened on my computer and when i press the ups start button it appears to be fully charged. And if i don't have load on my computer it works perfectly and provide power for my pc My computer draws 430Watts from the wall (and it has a 600w PSU) Can you please tell me what's the problem here ? and does attaching a C20,200ah battery solve this :? i know it's a long comment :D But thanks for reading
Your battery is dead or at the brink of dying. so it cant hold a charge as it used to when it was new. even after being fully charge the charge capacity has dropped due to its age. Normally your UPS would show "replace battery" light if it has one
Больше 10 лет так делаю, если надо увеличить время работы UPS, для более быстрого заряда батареи можно подключить зарядное устройство через диод к батарее.
This video very bad 1- Ups are used for short time of work and not for long time of work 2 - Charger Ups is weak and can not be used as large batteries and you must change cooling system in Ups 3 - Ups output is not pure sine wave 4 - Use the inverter better than the Ups
1,2- It depends on your UPS's internals. The biggest risk factor is heat building up over extended use (as you mentioned in your 2nd point). If your UPS doesn't have an internal active cooling system, just hook up a 12v fan to one of the batteries and stick it inside. 3- Again, depends on the UPS, but yes, most UPS-s have a simulated sine wave output. But, most modern electronics (especially a computer's PSU) can easily account for that and adapt at a moment's notice without interruption. 4- A bigger, external stand-alone inverter IS better than a UPS, but does not immediately switch over to the battery when mains' power is lost (the reason most people get a UPS). You could hook it up WITH a UPS together, but at that point, you're still buying a UPS lol
This video was in my RUclips recommended page... Many times, and you can see this on the UPS app, for your computer; the highest power draw in the UPS, is the dc-to-ac convertor in the UPS. Us a car charger against a lithium car battery, and use the battery to power only 12-volt devices, for emergency power needs. Losses are now near zero, and the Lithium car battery will not sag voltage during its discharge cycle. This is a secret, don’t tell anybody...
if car batery conect to the ups as AC power suplier how about it.i tring to conect car battery to ups but car batery not charged after finished the power
Good. But will the 70 ah battery be charged with that ups curcit? And if it can be charged with that ups curcit then can I connect that 70 ah battery with the ups while using my PC Or should I recharge the 70 ah battery previously? Waiting for your valuable reply. Thanks a lot for the creative video.
When discharged, the battery will require lotsa power to bring itself back up to snuff. Your UPS will not be able to do this. *Ever heard of plug and NO play?* When the house power is finally restored, you had better QUICKLY disconnect the car battery from the UPS and recharge it with a standard car battery recharger. OH! Of course, make sure your computer and router stuff is disconnected also! Otherwise your UPS will soon fail. It is not meant to recharge big car batteries. MAKE SURE all your connections are connected/disconnected properly or... HEY- why don't you just buy the recommended battery for the UPS?
Experience the joy of battery fumes in your home TODAY! As an added bonus, you'll have the peace of mind in knowing you also have 18lbs of lead and a gallon of sulfuric acid close by. DO NOT DO THIS! Aside from shoddy work, this thing is a hazard for a myriad of reasons to include the fumes as mentioned. While rare, any fault that may develop in the battery compounded by unusual charging and load can produce hydrogen sulfide, which is lethal in even small doses in brief exposures and has killed people
Phooey! No problem! When bad stuff starts to happen, just dump 300 lb of Baking Soda on the whole mess! That's what I always do! It's recommended by Martha Stewart AND Bob Vila!
Hi I'm using my car battery with computer UPS and every one minute ups turns off. Could you please help me know why it is happening like this. Any any suggestions
no because thees cheap and even expensive ups arent made to handle the load for more than what the orginal battery size can allow so it will just overheat youd have to changde the transistors and maybe even the trafo...
@@navibean1635 Nope those are 12v batteries each, 2 of them will make it 24v and yes they are connected in series since 1000 VA UPS requires 24v batteries whereas 600 VA UPS requires a single 12v battery.
You are connecting copper to aluminum, aren't you forgetting the gel to prevent oxidation? without that is a fire hazard.... Also, with that setup you left the original ends on there, you could reinsert the original battery and run in parallel. every little bit helps. :)
No. Not Every little bit helps. the problem with that is an imbalance between the batteries not pushing power at the same rate. Every battery that works in battery Bank has to work at near the same rate and capacity. Hence why batteries in a bank are all replaced at the same time.
An UPS battery is designed to be drained empty and recharged. A car battery is not and should not be used for more than 20% of its capacity. So, using a car battery for an UPS is far from ideal and may quickly age the battery.
Actually, most UPS systems use wet cell lead acid batteries, which are the same as what car batteries are. The UPS batteries are not designed to actually run for extended periods of time. They're designed to get you through short power outages or to give you a few minutes to get your computer system shut down properly. It's just as bad to let standard UPS batteries completely drain as it is for a car battery. There are some very high-end UPS systems that are used in mission-critical applications that have deep-cycle batteries that won't suffer damage if completely drained. The UPS in this video (and any UPS you get from a consumer electronics store) will be standard lead-acid wet-cell batteries.
That's not true. The SLA batteries in UPSes are NOT deep cycle batteries at all. They are just as vulnerable as car batteries. That's why the circuitry in UPSes will SHUT OFF and drop the load when the battery voltage falls to 10V. The real problem is that these low end UPSes don't have fans and depend on the low power of their batteries to limit runtime. Use a huge external battery and the electronics will get hot, possibly starting a fire. Your house costs far more than a decent UPS with external battery connectors.
it will work 100% ryt? I hope there won't be any issues? please do reply me if its not safe or safe .Thank you .I'm gonna try this for sure .great idea :-)
I'm going to look inside my CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD and see if this battery upgrade/hack can be done with it. It already has a fan on the inverter so there's that...
I did this recently with a 650VAh UPS I was using for almost a year (warrenty expired) and a new 65Ah battery. It had a 7Ah which discharges under small load very fast. Now I can run two LED lamps + Box fan in addition to a PC while chargina a phone for like 1 hour. Only problem is the box fan makes a weird noise under square wave. But make sure to check DC and AC voltages battery and out. My new battery goes to like 14V DC - but the UPS output is steady 230V AC This battery has an analog status signal. They have put a chemical that turns Green when charged, White when discharged and Red when dry (needs water).
I have ever do it exactly like that,,, I haven't known yet if it can charge the battery but All I know it has very big powere when it is charging I got elctrocuted by big current.
Excellent hack, cheap as chips and works like a dream. On top of that your outstandingly simple instructional video draws out all the 'know it all' twats to make their 'expert' comments... outstanding! Much thanks for the upload as well as the 2 year follow up video confirming total success and endurance of this hack... yes 'hack' fellow unpleasant commenters! We do of course need to continually and carefully monitor every aspect of this kind of alternative and potentially 'risky' set up... the original foundations of creative hacking no less! Exactly what RUclips was 'made' for!
this will not last.SMF ( small internal battery systems) battery system inverters are designed for 5 to 10 minute backups, hence small heatsinks and no fans.If you increase the battery capasity from say 7Ah to 100ah, ups will theoretically run for 100Minutes+ but what about the heat produced?The transformer,mosfets surely will run out of thermal specs.And what about the charger which was designed for 7ah battery? 0.7amp charger for 100 ah car battery? It wil take about 30 days to charge the battery.
Hydrogen gas is only going to vent out of a lead-acid battery if it's being overcharged. Most, if not all, UPS charging systems will cut off once the battery reaches a certain voltage and will continue "float charging" it to maintain it.
To save cost, some low cost UPS are using autotransformer configuration for charging/ stepping up voltage. In such UPS there is a risk of shock hazard if we touch battery terminal as the isolation is not done. They make inverter body out of plastic and prevents accidental touch of battery terminal. Idea is good, charging solution can even be using a solar charger. I agree that automotive battery is not designed for UPS/ inverter usage
@@dacianchronolog4104 Defining comment Dacian... well done! It's a very simple 'hack' not an electrical engineers report up for pseudo-expert dissection.
Car batteries are terrible at storing energy, only really good for high currents, AGM are far far superior. I'd also not remove the original, instead add the car battery [or AGM] to the original.
Thing is, I already have the car battery (my father replaced the one on his car because it would not start, I took the old one and connected it to a desulfator and charger for a couple weeks). Meanwhile the paltry "5A" one in my UPS is several years old and probably isn't able to deliver even 1A. Meanwhile the car battery is rated "235A", and even if at 1/5 that capacity, that is an order of magnitude greater than what it shipped with.
These devices are designed to run for short amount of time. . Extending the run time will generate heat not anticipated by the designers. You have just created a possible fire hazard.
This is where a hammer comes in habdy. Smash the timer with the hammer! And then, using sturdy molybdenum steel coat hangers, wire everything properly. And the computer will be OK, even when those coat hangers are glowing red hot! And forget about "soldering irons". Those are for wimps!
it charges a car battery in 3 to 5 days... usually it can charge a 5ah battery in 4-5 hours. If you use a 50ah battery the charging time will be 10x times more. 40-50 hours. If you use a 100ah car battery it takes min. 3.5 days or more.
It is dangerous. If it didn't burn for the video maker, it could burn for you. So be very careful if you don't have any knowledge about electricity. Except you wanna take the risk setting fire to your house.
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*This battery reconditioning program exceeded my presumptions. It worked on any drill battery, several AA and AAA batteries, **batery.repair** and any camera battery. The steps are simple and the act itself is exciting to do. No matter what type of battery you`ve got, it is sure to function again!*
Making use of the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxcJ22tnHH9l1vjdIdEIG27iOG55P7LXI8 reconditioning plan, I just saved 2 auto batteries from being completely junked. The guides were very simple to follow. I wish I would have found this years ago! You may use the guide to recondition any battery type
Anyone watching this should note that the battery pack he removed from the UPS has two 12v batteries hooked up in PARALLEL This results in a 12V battery with twice the power of a single battery. This means using a single car battery would work just fine. However, if they were connected in SERIES, it would result in a 24V battery would probably means one would need two car batteries hooked up series to work in this UPS. (BTW, my UPS' battery just died and it is hooked up in series, so, sucks to be me).
Very good observation. I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my 1500VA, 900W UPS and it's got two 12V batteries hooked up in series, so I had to get two lead-acid car batteries.
Thank you! I used this video to save a dead car battery which wouldn't charge because the voltage was below 9V. Using this video, I charged on the UPS a couple of seconds then connected the car battery charger and now it detected it and has started to charge it. So thank you again for taking the time to make this. Cheers!
The smaller UPS units like this are often not designed for such a large battery. If you drain the battery to any depth regularly, you could easily overwork the charger and that could cause premature damage to the UPS and potentially overheating. As @Old Fhart
mentioned, a deep cycle marine battery would be a much better choice than a car battery due to it's discharge characteristics.
Add cooling Fan for UPS...
Sweet. I have an old sealed deep cycle marine battery that was in its golden years of its life. Found a 600w ups today that was missing its battery today at goodwill for 4 dollars. Replacement tiny battery was 30 bucks. The one I have is already-paid-for bucks.
No heavy computer usage. Just using it to keep a security camera system alive during occasional power outages. Thanks for the vinidication that its not a terrible idea.
I don't know why everyone is complaining. Just be sure to oversize your UPS for what you're doing, when in doubt go bigger (if you have a 500w applciation get a 1000w UPS) The transformers in 1000w + UPS are huge. Put a fan on it and you're good to go.
can I use to for charging phones business? and how much can this cost me..
The ups already has a fan
Good comment. Some commenters here seem to expect the OP to provide a risk assessment plus a 12 month guarantee for a simple RUclips hack... delusional!
Hey Guys. I just wanted to tell you it still working in my house since 2 years, the full charging time is about 2 days. It will be good for you if the electricity go down one or 2 days per week. But in all cases you should use a good brand ups with a good cooling system inside it.
I will make a video to show you how it works in my house.
No matter how good the UPS brand is, it is designed to to charge the battery for about 4-5Hrs max. if use it to charge for 2days, it will definitely gonna heat your ups circuitry.
@@marmikpatel5593 And it is still heating his ups circuitry for 2 years and yet it is still working. I am okay if it works 2 years and gets broken, I will buy another ups after that lol.
Is it possible to use table fan on this UPS?
How many ah is your battery? How long can it last for 50watt?
@@marmikpatel5593 no heat there is a fan i side ups
Lol. Hey it worked for 2 yrs. Good on you. Enjoyed the Music. Thanks
I won't advise that upgrade if ac power in your home gets cut off frequently, it means the battery would be putting out charge faster than it gets in. That is because the built-in charger is not meant for higher capacity than what it's rated for. If the battery keeps getting discharged most of the time, and not being able to get charged at maximum or bulk charge at least once a week, the battery will get sulfated.
Great!!, what i was looking for and excellently explained for people like me, newbie in the electronics, thanks
Use golf cart batteries. Two 6 volt, 210AH batteries in series for 12 volts will run that inverter for a couple of days (1260 watt hours to 50% discharge, even more to 80% discharge).
I've done this before and it really works fine.
I use one on my 12 Volt battery bank. It keeps my batter bank charged and when light go out I can the use the invertor for my tv to.
I want to use car battry with microtek computer ups . Can it work
Don't use a car battery, it is not designed for extended time moderate load (drain). Use a deep cycle Marine battery. They are designed for a long time discharge like an electric boat motor. It will give you much better service. They are more expensive but may operate a 1500VA UPS for 24 Hrs.
I just need something like a battery I don't need to replace 3-9 months because it's off-the-shelf... Car battery would be fine. If you where running an OLD TUBE Radio. Then yes. Cranking Amperage is what really matters.
and dont expect the trickle charger inside the ups being able to recharge a deep cycle Marine battery. You will have to recharge with a standard charger. Many people dont understand the concept of power which is the amount of energy over time so if you dont exceed the capacity of the UPS in watts, you will be OK, you will just increase the amount of time you will be able to use the UPS with a deep cycle battery. But you have to take responsibility to recharge it by any other mean.
Thanks for your information sir, for my knowledge.
Give a shot with LifePo4 battery too, light, very long life, safe. Much more powerful than any deep cycle marine battery.
I got my boat using with a LifePo4 car battery to start up my outboard (115HP) and trim up and down all the time, huge change for cold starting.
@@JerryChanD Can you fit a LiFePO4 inside a UPS without changing anything? Wouldn't the voltage curves differ too much?
Can an external charger be added in addition to the in built charger to avoid over work of the default charger built into UPS?
As I understand it no, the ups will go into a protection mode most of the times...
You must use a golf cart battery. Car batteries are sprint runners good for a quick short hard push of current. Golf cart batteries are marathon runners, good for a long time push of current. You cannot run a car battery down below 80% multiple times, it ruins them. Golf cart bats can be drained down much further without ruining them.
how to charge the big battery?...is it using UPS charger or making charger from outside unit?
Those ties had to be soldiers given the great handling of current, also I ask that ups if it would sufficiently charge that battery?
My understanding is that a traditional car battery is not a good candidate for a backup system, as they cannot handle being drained more than 5 times or so until they fail. A deep cycle battery is required, preferably AGM or better.
What is the best UPS for the price that I can get and use a Car battery in it ? I would like to get about 1 hour of work time till the battery goes low.
The traditional lead-acid car batteries like the one shown here emit toxic gasses as they charge and should not be kept inside. These gasses can also start a fire / explode if in contact with a spark or flame. If you really need this, buy a car battery that doesn't off-gas, like an AGM battery. Also, a deep cycle AGM marine battery would be best suited for this application.
Giving it high amperage will make it off-gas, the 700mA (0.7A) is like having a trickle charger on the battery, plus float charging is required to prevent sulphating. When drained deeply, I use my 8A DuraLast charger then let the APC finish it.
@@katkatthecat Be it as it may, he used the wrong type of battery. Anything kept indoors requires a SEALED battery, like an AGM type. This is why every UPS has a sealed battery inside of it right from the factory. Mistakes and defects happen and they can sometimes be fatal, so why take a chance just to save $30?
how much Amp that battery have what kinda battery are you using
But you don't need that thick of wires to connect to the battery. This inverter is not going to pull a lot of Amps.
One cable is enough no matter what big a battery you are going to hook up to this. Believe me.
the music .... makes me want to stick forks in my ears...
LOL Thats why speakers have a mute! or volume ... fixes that issue!
lol
Too bad his battery didn't die when he recorded that crappy music.
@@zippymcfearson2776 LMAO yes...
I was just about to say, "Oh come on, it's not that bad... and then the organ or whatever that was". Can I borrow your forks?
straight to the point, no bullshit. thumbs up given.
You have taken out two 12 V batteries which were in series making it 24 V, the car battery you have added is also of 24 V? or no matter you can provide 12 V or 24 V ?
Nope they weren't in series.. Look carefully
FFS, solder the connections!
Is ups here like an inverter ?
In how many hours will the battery charge from UPS? If you have a separate battery charger?
Can i make single (phase) wire connections from UPS just like inverter making ground common for UPS input and output?
Please reply.
I have a UPS that gives DC 12V, 1.2A to it's UPS battery. How do I make it DC 12V 3A,so that I can charge my 35Ah car-battery with it? Is there any circuit that I can add to the "wires that were going into the UPS battery", and achieve my objective(12V, 3A)? I don't want to separate the transformer from UPS circuit, since doing that will spoil the UPS. After charging the car-battery, I plan to remove this additional circuit and put the UPS back to it's original use (12V, 1.2A).
Ok, big battery is added and it will work. But how long that 7AH circute board/ of UPS will take to Recharge car battery like 80AH, 100AH, 150AH ? 10 days or 15 ?
Abhimanyu Altekar three days
Abhimanyu Altekar three days for 80 ah
I guess..... now one more idea can be implemented
I have 2 useless UPS sets of 600VA
I guess we can use both of them for charging of single set of battery but only one for consumption. So it will reduce charging time.
So while charging we need to put on both of them for parallel charging.
Can I charge my 12v 3ah battery with 12v 6ah ups?
Buy a UPS which has an "Anderson" connector at rear for external battery. I have 1000watt APC external run unit with two 12 volt 120amp hour deep discharge batteries connected in series for 24 volt input. runs everything!
Which UPS model(s) would you recommend?
Why bother with UPS with internal battery when there were UPSs with external connection in 2016? I bought a Luxeon 12v UPS with sinus and connected a car battery. All went good till 2019 when my 60Ah Energizer battery lost 50-70% of it's capacity... So car battery is not a good option. Now I'm looking for other battery types, which is able to work with such UPS and remain their capacity longer. LiOn is not an option since it has wrong high charge level (4.2*3 is much lower then UPS will try to charge SLA battery - 13.6v).
Hey, I'm not going to judge a proper video.
THANK YOU FOR THE CONTENT! I don't understand the dislikes. Quick Good & Fast are rare combinations. This a 3/3 Engineering Standards met.
Please forgive me for asking, How healthy are the Capacitors? and the Internals. My NORMAL UPS battery dies every 4.5 to 5.8 months.. I wonder is it the batteries? OR is it the internals of my UPS... Do I need additional filters on my main. It's like I can hear the A/C unit trying to kill my UPS. Bad house wiring I know... But how long do the internals of the UPS last. BTW Be careful those Capacitors hold VERY powerful charges. Be nice to place those capacitors with quick charge/discharge like Lithium Ion but that is Another battery cost...
Video One English. What is your opinion?
Here in India, most UPS have poor quality batteries, so they won't last long and will give poor back up.
Batteries in UPS, deteriorate at a high speed, once they start
Being used.
This is a trade secret.
Same is true for mobile phone batteries.
I think this arrangement is good. Well done, except perhaps that you didn't solder too there in the beginning. I would have done that. But still, thumbs up from me 👍
I used to set this one for a year. Works great but not for long time and dont forget to close ups when you go out. If you have a blackout it will burn your house.
How do you know that it "will burn his house" Sherlock?
I had purchased 26AH battery and it isn't supporting for my hcl and mercury computer ups.. what I've to do? it is showing caution symbol. and the battery is fine. checked with the same other battery too
Can I have the other battery? :)
Can I use 32 ah lead acid battery (car battery)??? How many times full charge?????
what are the characteristics of the ups and the battery?
Those grey cables are thicker than the one you took off from the ups battery. Should i use the same gauge cable or its ok to connect them on thicker ones?
Shucks- Ijust use a couple of old coat hangers.
OK, they glow red sometimes, but that helps me keep warm here. And I can roast a hot dog on it also! It's a WIN-WIN!
great tutorial, i followed it today, but i hit a big wall unfortunately because i found that my UPS has its two batteries connected in series not in parallel like in ur UPS so the car battery i bought today(12v) didnt power my UPS which needs 24v, im thinking about getting a dc-dc boost converter which can increase the voltage from 12 to 24v, what do u think about that? do u have any other solution idea ? thank you
+abcanw
I'm not sure i have a right solution for this. But i would buy another car battery to make 24v
+Video One English did that and it worked finally :D
+abcanw
D:
+abcanw يبدو أنك عراقي ...أنا مصري ... تحية كبيرة للعراق و أهل العراق
+Video One English شكرا لك عزيزي على الفيديو الجميل ولشعب مصر العريق ^_^
How much did the vacuum cost?
I have made one but unfortunately i cant play frontech woofer, but still curent pass in the woofer please help
have fun with all that hydrogen gas ... one spark, and BOOOM goes your computer room ... 4% is the magic ignition number... have fun, stay safe. Oh, and yeah, SOLDER yo shit !
Solder is for wimps! I generally use chewing gum and a bit of Scotch tape.
my ups shuts itself off after 30 minutes no matter how big my battery capacity is. guess its better to get a ups that has factory external battery support
really good idea but the ups was not deigned to support long times of drain, it doesnt have a big heatsink, just a little piece of aluminum.
Rather than fucking up the unit (At that point may as well cut off the plastic housing for the battery), I just got a couple pieces of mains wiring, black and brown, stripped twisted and tinned 1 cm on one end, which goes into one side of the spade plugs, holding on by friction, and the other end striped a bit more and wrapped in a ring around the battery terminals, tinned also at the point the ring closes to avoid it unwrapping.
standard AC light gauge cable being used for high amperage DC good job on making a heating element
As long as you use sturdy molybdenum-steel coat-hangers and some chewing gum, it should work.
Don't be alarmed if the coat-hangers start to glow red. This is always normal for neophytes. It is just part of the learning curve.
and do i have to disconnect the battery and re-plug it in my car to run the car every time i wana go out ?
No! Learn to WALK! Or use a bicycle.
No: Just use a long extension cord. :-)
Use a good brand UPS with cooling system for this
good UPS, shit work, shit external battery = shit results
THANK YOU FOR SHARING. IT IS NICE YOU SHOWED US SOMETHING WE CAN USE AND IMPROVE ON INSTEAD OF TALKING BADLY AND BEING NEGATIVE ABOUT YOUR WORK.
Do you have a better video? STFU.
@@dacianchronolog4104 I'm agree with you....;
Done.it works properly. Thanks.
Thanks for the reply.. Can u please share the approximate runtime? and whats the wattage of your load. Thanks in advance
meka echchara hoda deyak neme bn habai. mehema karala awlak giye nadda bn.
Hello how about using motorcycle battery? Will it work ? Can it be recharged with the UPS ?
Hey -
Why don't you run your motorcycle on the UPS?
All you need is a very long extension cord!
Just make sure it doesn't accidentally wrap around your neck - or you will end up like Isadora Duncan.
Hey video one english i was asking do you also use the ups to charge the battery plz reply
love the music
music reminds me of the Big Lebowski
How much time it takes to full charge the car battery?
Artiphilia ... About 2 days
Thanks for the reply. Is it working fine? Any points to keep in mind.
Artiphilia it is working fine in my house and in my office... Be sure that the UPS has a good cooling system and try to test if it is becoming hot or not... My UPS doesn't go hot. And I put it outside the house not inside. It is working fine with me for about three years now.
I have connected a 40ah car battery to my 600va UPS. The battery is fully charged. But I am not getting any extended backup time. The UPS turned off within a minute. What may be the possible cause? Please provide the solution for it. Thanks in advance.
Video One English The battery is new. I even charged it for around 40hrs. What I have noticed is when the UPS turns off. I again make it on and it once again runs for a minute and goes off. This means the battery is not drained. Anything else I can do?
komputer saya ada 16 pcberikut monitor, speaker aktif, lampu, ada kulkas, dispenser, mesin air dan kipas 6 unit, klu pakai ups harus yang berapa? aki berapa ampare, dan bertahan berapa menit, mohon penjelasannya..
Hey is it safe? can you provide me more info about battery?? have you use it without any proble like fire blast or anytng danger
It's a hack... what do you want a 'risk assessment' too?
you look like one that knows what he's doing :D
I have a 1500va UPS recently it has been shutting down as soon as the Power go off if i had load (Like games) opened on my computer and when i press the ups start button it appears to be fully charged.
And if i don't have load on my computer it works perfectly and provide power for my pc
My computer draws 430Watts from the wall (and it has a 600w PSU)
Can you please tell me what's the problem here ? and does attaching a C20,200ah battery solve this :?
i know it's a long comment :D But thanks for reading
Your battery is dead or at the brink of dying. so it cant hold a charge as it used to when it was new. even after being fully charge the charge capacity has dropped due to its age.
Normally your UPS would show "replace battery" light if it has one
Silver Satin
Thanks man, i got a bigger UPS (3000Va) a couple of months back. Will repair the old one for the HT system :)
What is the output ampere of ups?and what is the ampere of this battery?can I connect 12v 6ah ups to 12v 3ah battery?
Yes, but you should only use it under half the rated load of the UPS. For "600W" UPS, that should be under 250W.
Больше 10 лет так делаю, если надо увеличить время работы UPS, для более быстрого заряда батареи можно подключить зарядное устройство через диод к батарее.
Why post in Russian? Barely anybody will understand you.
i understand. learn another language.
Hi
Good
I can use 100ah battery the UPS can change it
This video very bad
1- Ups are used for short time of work and not for long time of work
2 - Charger Ups is weak and can not be used as large batteries and you must change cooling system in Ups
3 - Ups output is not pure sine wave
4 - Use the inverter better than the Ups
1,2- It depends on your UPS's internals. The biggest risk factor is heat building up over extended use (as you mentioned in your 2nd point). If your UPS doesn't have an internal active cooling system, just hook up a 12v fan to one of the batteries and stick it inside.
3- Again, depends on the UPS, but yes, most UPS-s have a simulated sine wave output. But, most modern electronics (especially a computer's PSU) can easily account for that and adapt at a moment's notice without interruption.
4- A bigger, external stand-alone inverter IS better than a UPS, but does not immediately switch over to the battery when mains' power is lost (the reason most people get a UPS). You could hook it up WITH a UPS together, but at that point, you're still buying a UPS lol
This video was in my RUclips recommended page...
Many times, and you can see this on the UPS app, for your computer; the highest power draw in the UPS, is the dc-to-ac convertor in the UPS.
Us a car charger against a lithium car battery, and use the battery to power only 12-volt devices, for emergency power needs. Losses are now near zero, and the Lithium car battery will not sag voltage during its discharge cycle.
This is a secret, don’t tell anybody...
if car batery conect to the ups as AC power suplier how about it.i tring to conect car battery to ups but car batery not charged after finished the power
Good. But will the 70 ah battery be charged with that ups curcit? And if it can be charged with that ups curcit then can I connect that 70 ah battery with the ups while using my PC Or should I recharge the 70 ah battery previously?
Waiting for your valuable reply.
Thanks a lot for the creative video.
When discharged, the battery will require lotsa power to bring itself back up to snuff. Your UPS will not be able to do this.
*Ever heard of plug and NO play?*
When the house power is finally restored, you had better QUICKLY disconnect the car battery from the UPS and recharge it with a standard car battery recharger.
OH! Of course, make sure your computer and router stuff is disconnected also!
Otherwise your UPS will soon fail. It is not meant to recharge big car batteries.
MAKE SURE all your connections are connected/disconnected properly or...
HEY- why don't you just buy the recommended battery for the UPS?
Experience the joy of battery fumes in your home TODAY! As an added bonus, you'll have the peace of mind in knowing you also have 18lbs of lead and a gallon of sulfuric acid close by.
DO NOT DO THIS! Aside from shoddy work, this thing is a hazard for a myriad of reasons to include the fumes as mentioned. While rare, any fault that may develop in the battery compounded by unusual charging and load can produce hydrogen sulfide, which is lethal in even small doses in brief exposures and has killed people
Phooey! No problem! When bad stuff starts to happen, just dump 300 lb of Baking Soda on the whole mess! That's what I always do! It's recommended by Martha Stewart AND Bob Vila!
Hi
I'm using my car battery with computer UPS and every one minute ups turns off. Could you please help me know why it is happening like this. Any any suggestions
May be your UPS requires 24 volts (2 batteries) instead of 12 volts.
no because thees cheap and even expensive ups arent made to handle the load for more than what the orginal battery size can allow so it will just overheat youd have to changde the transistors and maybe even the trafo...
Hello .
Let me ask you something please !
Your UPS have 2 batterys but after you change it you put only 1 car battery !
No need again 2 ?
Thank you !
The two batteries in a UPS are usually two 6-volt batteries, wired in series - so the charger sees them as one 12-volt battery.
@@navibean1635 Nope those are 12v batteries each, 2 of them will make it 24v and yes they are connected in series since 1000 VA UPS requires 24v batteries whereas 600 VA UPS requires a single 12v battery.
Copy that. I used to replace the batteries on some APC 1400. They are two 12v batteries connected in series, with a fuse between two batteries.
You are connecting copper to aluminum, aren't you forgetting the gel to prevent oxidation? without that is a fire hazard....
Also, with that setup you left the original ends on there, you could reinsert the original battery and run in parallel. every little bit helps. :)
No. Not Every little bit helps.
the problem with that is an imbalance between the batteries not pushing power at the same rate.
Every battery that works in battery Bank has to work at near the same rate and capacity.
Hence why batteries in a bank are all replaced at the same time.
what is the flow of ampere from computer ups while charging the battery.
"what is the flow of ampere from computer ups while charging the battery."
Good question.
some videos and some advise from friends say it will damage ups charger and may burn ......as the charger ampere has lower value than car battery
+Rafik Alhaji In my case i didn't find any problems
Video One English
It is dangerous. If it didn't burn for the video maker, it could for you. So be very careful.
@@ArsenicShooter This is a hack? Why would anyone try this without monitoring it closely and being careful?
@@Artiz... just saying ☺
Thanks a lot it saved my 2000 rupees... I had one old ups...
An UPS battery is designed to be drained empty and recharged. A car battery is not and should not be used for more than 20% of its capacity. So, using a car battery for an UPS is far from ideal and may quickly age the battery.
Actually, most UPS systems use wet cell lead acid batteries, which are the same as what car batteries are. The UPS batteries are not designed to actually run for extended periods of time. They're designed to get you through short power outages or to give you a few minutes to get your computer system shut down properly. It's just as bad to let standard UPS batteries completely drain as it is for a car battery. There are some very high-end UPS systems that are used in mission-critical applications that have deep-cycle batteries that won't suffer damage if completely drained. The UPS in this video (and any UPS you get from a consumer electronics store) will be standard lead-acid wet-cell batteries.
That's not true. The SLA batteries in UPSes are NOT deep cycle batteries at all. They are just as vulnerable as car batteries. That's why the circuitry in UPSes will SHUT OFF and drop the load when the battery voltage falls to 10V. The real problem is that these low end UPSes don't have fans and depend on the low power of their batteries to limit runtime. Use a huge external battery and the electronics will get hot, possibly starting a fire. Your house costs far more than a decent UPS with external battery connectors.
@@rcxb1 or you could hook up a cheap 12v fan and stick it inside, if your UPS does not have its own active cooling system.
how to charge battery..??..ups charger can charge the battery..??
Now, when regular power comes in, does the Rectifier have the capacity to charge that modded battery?
I don't think it does... I have tried this and had to add an aux charger...
@@DanielShaw123 Mine does... bit slow but so what?
it will work 100% ryt? I hope there won't be any issues? please do reply me if its not safe or safe .Thank you .I'm gonna try this for sure .great idea :-)
+joshwa quadros Use a good UPS with fan and it will work good
@+Video One English I use APC bx-600C-IN it has got no fan :-(
+ニクソンマイケル yea okay sir I got no cooling fan in my ups
you probbably want to upgrade the transistors or add more cooling but zeah it will
I'm going to look inside my CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD and see if this battery upgrade/hack can be done with it. It already has a fan on the inverter so there's that...
the car battery you use is 24volts or 12volts? can i use 24volts?
NO,unless it came with a 24 V. battery.
Sure! But 120 volts is faster! Try 240 volts! Really fast.
Would you like AC? Or DC? Actually AC/DC is best. Lots of heavy metal!
I did this recently with a 650VAh UPS I was using for almost a year (warrenty expired) and a new 65Ah battery. It had a 7Ah which discharges under small load very fast.
Now I can run two LED lamps + Box fan in addition to a PC while chargina a phone for like 1 hour.
Only problem is the box fan makes a weird noise under square wave.
But make sure to check DC and AC voltages battery and out. My new battery goes to like 14V DC - but the UPS output is steady 230V AC
This battery has an analog status signal. They have put a chemical that turns Green when charged, White when discharged and Red when dry (needs water).
I have ever do it exactly like that,,, I haven't known yet if it can charge the battery but All I know it has very big powere when it is charging I got elctrocuted by big current.
Excellent hack, cheap as chips and works like a dream. On top of that your outstandingly simple instructional video draws out all the 'know it all' twats to make their 'expert' comments... outstanding! Much thanks for the upload as well as the 2 year follow up video confirming total success and endurance of this hack... yes 'hack' fellow unpleasant commenters! We do of course need to continually and carefully monitor every aspect of this kind of alternative and potentially 'risky' set up... the original foundations of creative hacking no less! Exactly what RUclips was 'made' for!
?? Y not just set a Car Batt. and sine-wave inverter and Batt. maintainer close by. Mount all 3 things on a small dolly. Try that!
this will not last.SMF ( small internal battery systems) battery system inverters are designed for 5 to 10 minute backups, hence small heatsinks and no fans.If you increase the battery capasity from say 7Ah to 100ah, ups will theoretically run for 100Minutes+ but what about the heat produced?The transformer,mosfets surely will run out of thermal specs.And what about the charger which was designed for 7ah battery? 0.7amp charger for 100 ah car battery? It wil take about 30 days to charge the battery.
Have you thought about the hydrogen gas that comes from the car battery
Did you even notice that it was outside?
Hydrogen gas is only going to vent out of a lead-acid battery if it's being overcharged. Most, if not all, UPS charging systems will cut off once the battery reaches a certain voltage and will continue "float charging" it to maintain it.
To save cost, some low cost UPS are using autotransformer configuration for charging/ stepping up voltage. In such UPS there is a risk of shock hazard if we touch battery terminal as the isolation is not done. They make inverter body out of plastic and prevents accidental touch of battery terminal. Idea is good, charging solution can even be using a solar charger. I agree that automotive battery is not designed for UPS/ inverter usage
can i use that ups battery as power backup?
what ?
@@photonic_induction2633 That is what it is for,For a SHORT time.
I've done this but I used sealed 14 AH battery.
Use a descent wirestripper
Really poor work, you should'v soldered.
Very nasty and unproffesional job
yep and he should invest in some wire strippers
GUYS, This was quick free work shown. You can AvE it or Hackaday it. Point was he did something nice and shared it with the community.
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@@dacianchronolog4104 Defining comment Dacian... well done! It's a very simple 'hack' not an electrical engineers report up for pseudo-expert dissection.
Car batteries are terrible at storing energy, only really good for high currents, AGM are far far superior. I'd also not remove the original, instead add the car battery [or AGM] to the original.
"Absorbed Glass Mat" batteries? Interesting!
Thing is, I already have the car battery (my father replaced the one on his car because it would not start, I took the old one and connected it to a desulfator and charger for a couple weeks). Meanwhile the paltry "5A" one in my UPS is several years old and probably isn't able to deliver even 1A. Meanwhile the car battery is rated "235A", and even if at 1/5 that capacity, that is an order of magnitude greater than what it shipped with.
These devices are designed to run for short amount of time. . Extending the run time will generate heat not anticipated by the designers. You have just created a possible fire hazard.
Problem is my UPS has a built in timer . . and cuts off in 15-mins NO MATTER WHAT !
This is where a hammer comes in habdy.
Smash the timer with the hammer! And then, using sturdy molybdenum steel coat hangers, wire everything properly. And the computer will be OK, even when those coat hangers are glowing red hot!
And forget about "soldering irons". Those are for wimps!
I tried before but the problem is that the car battery will not recharge by the UPS. just one way only.
it charges a car battery in 3 to 5 days... usually it can charge a 5ah battery in 4-5 hours. If you use a 50ah battery the charging time will be 10x times more. 40-50 hours. If you use a 100ah car battery it takes min. 3.5 days or more.
I'm just here for the music...
i like this broo. great
You need to jumper IC and resetting timer if want get long hour like 48 hour
Please how do you do that, cos even with 18ah battery, it dies within 20 minutes.
It is dangerous. If it didn't burn for the video maker, it could burn for you. So be very careful if you don't have any knowledge about electricity. Except you wanna take the risk setting fire to your house.